Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the toothpaste is out of the bottle with Tom Brady’s access, and the NFL backs him. Dabo Swinney answers the haters and way too early firings in college football. Plus, The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about current embarrassment in LA sports including the Dodgers bullpen and the state of UCLA football and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar As Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
All Right, get it together.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
You got issues, man, and they're very real and you
need to get them addressed.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Just ever, just get it together, all right? Why don't
we do a professional bro, not a kid. I didn't
do anything, just dud never never ends.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
I didn't do anybody started.

Speaker 6 (00:47):
No, they don't believe in race relations around here either,
by the way.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I mean, it's racist some of the things.

Speaker 6 (00:54):
Yeah, jeez, the things that this man comes up with
out there.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh boy.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
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Speaker 5 (01:45):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
How's everybody feeling here on this Wednesday morning?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Everybody?

Speaker 7 (01:50):
Hey, who really cares like how I'm feeling. I'll be
honest with you on that. Thank We got a show
to do, you know, we gotta get through the show.
We're gonna talk about some topics that have been beaten
like a dead horse, but we're gonna keep talking about them.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
By the way, the old adage of beaten like a
dead horse, a nobody actually beat a dead horse.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Do you ever think about that?

Speaker 6 (02:11):
Yeah, when you're trying to revive it, you know you're
you gotta beat it because you can't just do a
normal you know, push push to get the heart going
type deal like you would do on a person.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
You gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta beat that. Yeah,
you gotta beat that horsey. See, it's wisdom right there.
I don't know. It's called beating the whore. Geez, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
That's a great point.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I gotta beat it. Look you got you got beating
that whore.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Pull your pants up now that dang.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, well there are a lot You're off to a
quick start today, aren't you. There are a lot of
dead horses that need to be beaten.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
One of those the discussion about Tom Brady in a booth,
in a coaching booth with a headset wait on this one.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So we hit on this a little bit.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yesterday that there was a report that Peter Schrager had
on Monday.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Uh is that a credible report?

Speaker 6 (03:15):
Well, Pete, come on, he got enough hours logged in
on the field.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Pete Carroll responded to that after the game and kind
of dismissed, you know, the questioning, Oh, he's not involved
in anything like that. And then Pete Carroll also had
to respond to the questions yesterday about the situation, and
it sounded.

Speaker 8 (03:38):
Like this, Yeah, I think Tom's really tried to honor
that really strictly and uh, with all respect, you know,
to to the situation of you know, concerns like you're
talking about and I think he's been really good. He
has not been He is not planning.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Games with us.

Speaker 8 (03:53):
He's not talking to us about anything other than our
conversations that we have that are really that are there
random and they're not They're not set up, they're not
structured in any way. And he knows. He's very respectful
of what he does otherwise, and he's of the opinion that,
you know, he doesn't want to be that kind of
a factor, and so he's not so.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
And Pete Carroll is going to come out and say
everything the opposite of that.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
Well, first off, can I asked this question, has Pete
Carroll built up enough credibility with everyone where we believe anything?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Pete says, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
What do you mean absolutely not?

Speaker 5 (04:30):
It's like, hey, why did you leave USC?

Speaker 7 (04:32):
You know, it's just a great opportunity, you know, timing
and all that.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
For me, it's like, because the death penalty is coming
down to you.

Speaker 9 (04:38):
Basically, isn't he teaching there still? I mean, is he
still back there? And he came back they left he
left for a long period of time. Yeah, really long period.
But I don't think he's teaching anymore us. He has
not come back yet, sense bad way, don't get.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
All sense oitive jonas well.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
You know what's wrong with you?

Speaker 6 (04:59):
Carol came back, the USC didn't. Yeah, I'm just saying yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said in a statement that there
are no policies that prohibit an owner from sitting in
the coaches booth or wearing a headset during the game.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Clearly, we got one in Indiana that's got her team
undefeat right now.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
She does. She's taking notes as well too.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Tom Brady was sitting in the booth in his capacity
as a limited partner. All personnels sitting in the booth
must abide by policies that prohibit the use of electronic
devices other than league issued equipment such as Microsoft Surface
tablet for the sideline viewing system, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
So basically, the league's like, hey, listen, relax everybody. He
didn't break any rules. You know, he didn't break any
rules here.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
But I'm just wondering, if they were good, how much
pushback would there be on this because this sort of
feels like it's a little fishy.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
But they got liped out, and you know, you kind
of just show it away.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
But we made the point yesterday if this was such
a problem, why do we let it get this far
down the road, If this is such an issue that
everybody was going to be outraged by a national television
why do we let it get down down the road
this far and let him even be put in a
position to where this has become a topic of conversation
and concern from people around the league.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's the part doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
And the NFL is not gonna come out and say,
you're right, guys, let's go back on it. It just
feels like we're too far down the road to do
that at this point.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Go like you I agreed, Yeah, No, I mean I can.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
We're beating a dead horse here, Like I kind of
settled me to say yesterday about that's comments, Well, Pete
Carrol's comments are going to change anything, Like you know,
they they're not put on a toothpaste back in the
bottle or in the two. You know, Tom Brady is
going to operate how tom Brady's going to operate, and
you know, the NFL can say and do whatever they want.

(06:50):
But if he wants to get information for a game,
he's doing, He'll find a way if he wants to
get information for you know that the team he now
partially owns, he'll find a way. Like it's it's this
is to me an old story because this happened as
soon as they allowed him to be both an owder
at a TV analyst.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So I what we're we gonna say it?

Speaker 7 (07:11):
Like, like, what are we going to do to change
anything or to even dissect us anymore?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Because the only thing you can look.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
At it and say, you know, if Peyton Manning had
taken an ownership stake in the Broncos or let's say
this becomes more relevant where more players are doing this,
you know, is the NFL going to take a harder
stance with those players? I guess is this just about
Tom Brady being able to do both because he's Tom Brady.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
Well, the name Peyton Manning I think holds just as
much weight. So the question would be if it were
to extend beyond guys like a Tom Brady or Peyton
may I mean I would say those are two names
that you're they get to do what they want.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I mean, here's what it is accepting for what is.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
Worth Peyton Manning, he can do what he wants I
want to do, Omaha productions.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
He on commercials doing you know, flights, fly paper type action, parachuting, omaha,
you know stuff. Listen, there's a couple guys that are
and as there and let me say this as there
should be. There are some guys that have a con
I mean, Lawrence Taylor can do whatever he wants to do. Clearly,

(08:27):
you get me clearly, right, all right? I mean doesn't
always have to be for good. You can't have good
without evil, and you can't have evil without good.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
He's calling a different game.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
I'm just saying there's some guys that are they are
football immortals, and they can do what they want to do.
Arch can do what he wants to do. Peyton can
do what he wants to do. Tom Brady can do
what he wants to do. And it's on different levels,
but nonetheless that's what what exists. It's a weird conversation

(09:03):
for me because you're never going to hear what the
truth is going to be as it applies to certain
people because it's on a level of clearance. You know
how you have government clearance, It's on a level of
clearance that's beyond.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
What we're going to discuss.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
That's the bottom line, and whatever the truth of it is,
it's never going to be made known to the public
what the truth of the matters are that go on
behind the scenes as it applies to what decisions are
being made for Tom Brady or a guy like Peyton Manning.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I truly believe that.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
Now I've been around long enough to know, Yeah, that's
beyond my clearance level right there, Like here's where I
get off, and I've seen that, like I've experienced it.
I've seen it, and it's okay. They've accomplished to the
level where they've earned the right. They've pushed the game
forward so far in so many different ways, ways beyond.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
What we even know.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
Things that they been involved in to make the game
better that we don't even know. So and in some cases,
in some ways shape form and manner, it's almost like
they owe it to them, Like look at Tom Brady,
you owe it to him to make sure he gets
what he wants from the NFL. Peyton Manning, you owe

(10:19):
it to him to make sure he gets what he
wants out of what he wants to do in production
or whatever it may be as it applies to the NFL.
You owe it to him, So I don't have a
problem with it.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
People need to relax on it. What is your Clarence level?

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Like?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
What would you be allowed to do with because you
said that their Clarence level is higher than yours? Like,
what is your clarence?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Love?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, I can say I played? I played?

Speaker 6 (10:49):
Yeah he could. You're allowed to do that, like, no worries.
You could say you played. I mean because at one
point I wasn't. At one point Dan Snyder had Dan
Snyder had his menu.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Hit me up and tell me, yeah, you can't.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Uh, you can't say you're redskin great for your your
football cap.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Take that down?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Oh really, damn?

Speaker 6 (11:13):
I got a ceason the cists on saying redskin great
on on a flyer for for for a youth.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
Of a football cap. Wait? Really?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yes? I love that though. That's good for you? You
need you need that?

Speaker 7 (11:28):
Yeah, well you need that in your life a little bit,
just a little homeboy experience that.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
How did you get around that?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I said that f off? Take great?

Speaker 6 (11:39):
I felt like like I didn't even approve the flyer.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
The people who did the flyer did to fly I
got it. Straight.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
I don't even associate with with the Redskins. I got
put on there, it got I got a season desist.
Like bro, I don't even fool with y'all. Like what,
I don't care I did. I didn't do it. Why
are you coming after me? I'm not even getting paid
to do that. I'm not even getting paid to do

(12:07):
the cat cat Lee? I mean you, but they I
mean clearance levels. I could say I'm an NFL. I
could say I'm an NFL.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Player if I want to, Yeah, But being in state
college with you, there's a clearance level there that's a
little different. Like Lee and I could do whatever the
hell we wanted in state college because we were You said, no.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Hey, what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Nope, I don't play that.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
We were in the Lash. You were in the Lash,
and Lee was really running amuckt in the last I
saw caps Hesman, you saw it all.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
I can't believe Lee would do that though, Like, I'll
never let you all back in there, so you know,
he Lee, Lee disgraced our bathroom and he walked around
and was just looking around the area like like it.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Wasn't like it wasn't game day.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Taking the trophy room This dude was walking around Brady,
it's game day.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
I believe this.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
By the way, it's it's game day in the Lash,
the Lash, you know, our football building, our our stronghold,
our base, our mainframe. And Lee leaves the room while
I'm on air, So I can't. I can't jump off
the radio in the middle of talking and tell him
what the f are you doing? You dumb ass? Get

(13:30):
back in this room. Do you understand, Like there's cameras everywhere,
like literally everywhere, and somebody's gonna come get you, like
you're gonna be in that big trouble, and then that's
gonna in turn get me in trouble, and then now
my access is going to be in Well, no it's not,
but I'm gonna have to explain it and it makes
me look bad. This dude is walking around the building

(13:53):
on game day, Like.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
What are you doing? He comes back, like casually strolls in, like,
what are you.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Doing, dude?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
At least least tossing a football.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Oh no, buddy, I'm just going looking around.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
At least tossing the football in the air to himself
like what's that? Oh, it's a Joe Paterno game ball.
He got his last win. I personally was hoping that
somebody jumped on him. I was hoping they jumped on
him and arrested him.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Out of the.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Ground a mini bottle of seagrum falls out of it.
I was shorts.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Secretly, I was like, I hope somebody grabs him up
and escorts him out because I'm not going to get him.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I will not let.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Him back in.

Speaker 7 (14:30):
There's a part of me that I want to lead
to have a good time. But once he starts going
into that immature stuff, I'm like, I kind of want
to be here too when he gets arrested for it
and just be like I told you, Lee, I told
you he can make some life changes.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
You didn't listen, And this is what happens to you. Lee,
this is what happens. Get to pass. He's with me
on this too.

Speaker 10 (14:48):
He's in those rooms, he's we're in We're in the
bottom of the hard rock stadium, going past security.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
That was a little different. That's not that's not our house. Yea,
that's not Brady's house. That's not our house, even though
our families were in the house.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Using it that he's not as juvenile as you are.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Lee, You know, you go out and it's like, eh,
whatever happens happens. It's like next to you know, and
it's you're like falling off a curb. It's just the
whole situation is weird.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
And I also asked permission to get a coffee? Can
I use the rest room? Lee helped himself to these.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Lee, Lee walk right on out. That's all I'm gonna say. Lee,
walk right on. Lee don't care? Lee, boy, that's right,
Lee don't care?

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
So, what what sort of clearance would Lee have if
we went to South Bend, Brady, Like, what sort of
would you.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Would you take?

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well?

Speaker 7 (15:38):
They actually, you know, the atmosphere supposedly versus an m
was phenomenal. And that's important because they just started selling
beer in the stadium, so I guess it was pretty
lively from all indications, But I don't know. I mean again,
like I said, I would make sure that somehow campus
police arrests him and then we can just sit there
to sell and you know, just sit there.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And I told you, Lee, this is a wake up
call for you. Hopefully he probably like, no.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Man, I'm good, I'm just chill here, buddy.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
That would be a dope Lee goes to jail. That'd
be a dope ass show man like show how it
led up to him going to jail.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Make some friends?

Speaker 6 (16:17):
Then, yeah, you would. I mean, like you be out
of your element. He's sleep on the floor. You know
you got top cot probably not. You know, he's used
to sleeping into the nook bottom to.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Her? What do you say he likes the bottom?

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Wait, the bottom for sure?

Speaker 7 (16:42):
Lee, Lee understands you don't wait too much about Lee
and his preferences. All right, you gotta either we gotta
open this thing up and be public about it, or
you gotta stop driving in all right.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I'm just saying she definitely does have really good time in.
He's got good.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, but she's like trying to She's trying to put
Lee on blast. I think Lee's trying to, you know
things talk by the scenes.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Lee knows what it's like to have a valent sil mate.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Oh oh oh he's not lionly.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Is that lion?

Speaker 10 (17:15):
Oh yeah no no NOTNNA work my way around. Hey,
he's got a tough, ten strong head exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
He can take it. He can he can take a
lick or two.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
He's the Canelo relationships, Dang it. Ain't going down.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
No, ain't going down at all.

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Speaker 4 (18:22):
So Clemson has been a little bit of a disappointment
so far this season.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
They lose to Georgia Tech over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
My guy popped off, didn't he.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
They are one and two and Davos Swinney he has
heard the complaints and he had this to say.

Speaker 12 (18:39):
If they want me gone, they if they tired of winning,
they can send me on the way, because that's all
we've done.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Is win.

Speaker 12 (18:44):
So if they tired of winning, we've had We've won
this league eight out of the last ten years.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Is that not good? I'm just asking, is that good?
I don't know if that's good or not.

Speaker 12 (18:51):
To win your league eight out of ten years, to
go to playoffs seven out of ten years, being four
NATS championships and went twice. Yeah, we little down right.
Now take your shots. But I got long memory in
case y'all don't.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Know, We'll be all right. We'll bounce back.

Speaker 12 (19:04):
This is a program built to last, always has been,
always will be. And I would just say, if you
give up on us, if you don't believe on us,
because we've lost two games down to the last trade
and we're wanting.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
You didn't believe in us anyway, so it don't matter.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
You wasn't all in anyway. If you all in, you
burn the ships. Man, you ain't.

Speaker 12 (19:22):
There ain't no exit strategy like you're freaking all in.
And hey, listen, I mean Clemson's tired of winning. They
send me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else,
and coach, I ain't going to the beach. Hell, I'm
fifty five. I got a long way to go. Y'all
gonna have to deal with me for a while. I
had a long way to go. I'm just getting going.
I'm just now good enough to be a head coach.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
There you go, flex, there you go. I mean, he's
not wrong. Seven out of the last ten.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Years made the playoffs flex on eight of ted what
the conference? Flex thirteen of the last fourteen years, he's
what double digits? So tenor board games. The exception of
that was twenty twenty three where.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
They went nighted four.

Speaker 7 (20:05):
This is somewhere in the territory of like the Ryan
Day Ohio State fan based conversation. So many programs and
schools they'll want to fire these guys, and.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
You know what they end up doing.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
They end up spending the next decade or more trying
to find that exact same guy they would have killed four.
So Clemson fans, I get it. This is not the
start of the season that you wanted. By the way,
last year wasn't the start of the season that you wanted.
You went night at three, you end up winning your
conference to go to the playoff.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I get it.

Speaker 7 (20:42):
You still want the conference. You still went to the playoff.
They still have very much of an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
To do that.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
So one to two football team that has not played
its best football, You don't want to play your best
football right now, You want to play your best football
in November December heading into the playoff.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
The teams that.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
Get hot are the team that end up ultimately playing
for the national championship.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
That was Ohio State without a doubt last year. And
then you gonna be making the case that was not
to day. You can't make that case.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
Like I'll go to the other side of that conversation.
Like we've already talked about Notre Dame this week. But
you know, if you look at some of these teams
that have losses and that and the fan bases are panicing.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
The fan base is what these coaches fired, they just
started the season.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
Do you think upending a coaching staff or a head coach,
whatever the case may be, do you think it's a
good idea for these players?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Like, then, what do you think is gonna happen?

Speaker 7 (21:36):
You're gonna have someone else start over called the defense,
you know, someone else start over as the head coach.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
How do you think that's gonna go?

Speaker 5 (21:45):
To me?

Speaker 7 (21:45):
It's always unbelievable, Like literally It's almost impossible for me
to comprehend how fans get like this so early into
a season. And yet you literally watched the team last
year in Ohio State. They lost to Oregon, they got
beat down by mission. At the end of the year,
went on a hot run, we win a national championship,

(22:08):
and they turned right back around and they'll complain about
something the following year.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's wild man, And so.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
Let me just point out one thing real quick, because
this is we haven't got to it. I'm pretty sure
we're not gonna get to it based on how a
rundowns have gone.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
But you know, coaches have already been fired.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
Brent Pry, former DC at Penn State, Levardosi Well Averrgeria Tack,
he's gone. You could look at a situation like that
and you say, well, why do they fire him so
early in the season. To Sean Foster, head coach at UCLA,
why is he fired so early into the season. He
got a year and then some games, handful of games,
not even well the reasons this. There's a thought with

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some of those places that that's twofold. A lot of
the players, you know, if they an opportunity to go
somewhere else they can.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
So if you if you do it.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Before week four of college football, those kids who've played
can still maintain a redsh a year if.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
They have one. So that's what skind of thought. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
The the other thought is they want to get to
jump on the next head coaching search, and they want
to get that person in place as soon as possible
because they haven't changed the transfer portal windows.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
They haven't changed their early sioting period.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
So not only do you have to deal with the
rest of the season, which is all you know, you know,
foregone conclusion, at this point, you're already starting to find
that next guy to build a staff to get the
recruits not only in high school but also the college level,
et cetera. So that's all expediting this entire process, which

(23:45):
means there's even more of a need for changing the
college football calendar, the transfer portal windows. So we're not
looking at, you know, putting so much pressure on these
coaches where they if they don't win out of the gate,
then all of a sudden, you know, they got to
move on. Which UCLA and I think you'd admit for
anyoney who watched the second half of last year they
got better. That was a better team last year the

(24:07):
second half of the first half the season. So you know,
is it unfortunate it was Deshaun Foster, the right guy
for you still had I don't know. I mean, I
don't think he had enough time I could I could
honestly say that Brett Prior Virginia Tech.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
I mean, if those guys don't get four years to
get their entire you know, class of recruits that have
develop et cetera. How do you really know? But this
is the society we live in now. We don't get
the results we went right away. We just want to
move on.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
M rem Prad as a fine coach man, he'll he'll
land on his feet, Dashawn. I don't really know too
much about his coaching pedigree. I know him as a
player and I know him as as a man. He's
a dope dude as a man, great family man, those kids.

(24:59):
I know this because that was one of Man's final
schools that he looked at. So I got some extensive
time with him and the coaching staff on campus. The
coaches and the players alike really respected him, like at
a very very high level. Anytime I've ever been around,

(25:19):
you know, coach coach Brent Brent prior, He's always been
a very well respected person by by his by his
coaching staff, and by his players. And I feel like
that's if the players, if the players riot with you
and they believe in you. To me, that that's the

(25:39):
biggest that's the biggest tail of the tape. Is what's
the respect factor for you as a person. And if
people admire you when you're not around, and they respect
you and they have great things to say about you
when you're not around, that speaks volumes to me of
the person that you are. Then comes to conversation of
how does that translate into being the coach that you

(26:01):
need to be? And I feel like that's always going
to be the most complex question to answer because there's
so many different ways to gauge and measure what being
a successful coach is. You know, the interesting thing is
there's so many times that everything is based off of
winning and losing. I was just watching a clip on

(26:22):
coach Paterno just randomly popped up on my algorithm, but
was watching a video on him, and what it really
made me think about and what it really made me
feel is, and coming into this topic is that the
one thing that people don't pay attention to and it

(26:43):
doesn't resonate with them because generally speaking, they only care
when you're forced to care. Is the development of these
young men. And if you have a coach that is
graduating his players, if you have a coach that is
teaching his players how to tie a tie, put on

(27:05):
a suit, make sure that they're presentable for a job interview,
make sure that they're on time, not only for doing
things that are athletic, but making sure you're on time
for class. There's a rule with Penn State players where
when they check on you, you should be there early
enough to be sitting in the front of the class.

(27:26):
No matter how big the class is. It doesn't matter
if it's two hundred or if it's twenty. You guys
should be there early enough to be sitting in the
front of the class. So, when we're making these judgments
about these coaches and what they don't do and how
they don't win, and it becomes so much about winning
and losing, I find it to be kind of interesting

(27:49):
the dichotomy between how we view these coaches and what
they're tasked to do. At the college level as it
applies to wins and losses. When we start to get
into conversations like the nil like when we start to
get into conversations like these kids being treated as as
professionals rather than being treated as students, because if you're

(28:11):
looking at it from a true perspective of treating them
like students, then some of these coaches that people call
for you don't have to go any further than the
conduct of the players that they have and what their
accomplishments are on and off the field. That would give
you a really really warm and happy, happy feeling about

(28:34):
what's taking place there. But that doesn't matter, right. All
that matters is in the end, if you win, if
you lose. And sometimes I feel like, you know that
gets lost out I throw it out there.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, it's almost like the game has changed to where
it's no longer it's just are you winning are We
need immediacy, We need results right away. And you know,
on the Davosy thing, the reason the Dabos Swinny stuff,
because we've talked about it, James Franklin Fans that don't
appreciate James Franklin in the success.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
He's James Rob just Todd rip Angele, the coach that
that was before Joe Paterno.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
He just tied him on on on the wins list.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
But I mean I could on a small level understand, well,
you know, they've seen national championships with Joe Paterno, Ryan Day,
they've seen success there with Irvin Meyer and at the
program like Clemson's never had an era anywhere close to this,
like ever, not even close. They won one national title

(29:38):
and I think eighty one. Other than that, they've never
like they've never sniffed this before. And here we are.
They've got off to a slow start, and it's already like,
well there's got to be a change. If Dabos Swinny
was on the open market, he would get hired in
twenty minutes, like he'd like, they would hire him immediately
some other programs.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
So it just it feels like.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
It's become big business now and there's a lot more
voices outside of just the fanatical fan bases of these
programs that are making decisions.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
And you know, I know, way more complex. You got
the transfer portal now it's just you got the nil money.
It is way more complex to start over with the
coaching staff than it's ever been ever. That is a
that is a very very big decision when you let go. Now,

(30:33):
if it's a new coach, that's that's a little bit different.
But you talk about an institutional type of coach like
a Dabo Sweeney, good luck with that.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Look at what's going on with Alabama. They are going
to have their hands full trying to figure out post
post Nick saban Era.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
There, Oh, they would hire Dabo Sweeney. Well, there you go.
He played for Alabama, Yes he did.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Like he played for Gen Installage, they would hire him
up imediately if that was the case, like to bring
them in.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
So yeah, I just.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
It's going to be difficult to feel positions of guys
who have been institutions pillars to some of these programs,
and people are going to find out the things that
you wish for. You got to be careful sometimes stuff
you wish for because you just might get it.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
There's going to be a lot of people who disagree
with this. Maybe you guys disagree with it. I also
think this is a small piece.

Speaker 7 (31:28):
Of like the influence of social media, where like everything
we see in life is like the best of with
that person.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
It's it's success, it's winning, it's the best of everything.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
It's like you don't see those moments of despair, those
moments of you know, heartache, tragedy or how much it
took to get to the success or how much it
took to climb that mountain. I think that's a byproduct
of this, where like fans have a realistic expert because one,
none of these especially young people know history like no one,

(32:05):
no one reads history. And then they're the portion of
it is they don't face that sort of adversity to
then get them to understand like what it takes. And
so even for a program like Clemson, you know if
this was you know one of those years where maybe
they take a step back, Okay, that like it only
builds for the next season for a number of those

(32:27):
players who are coming back. And you can make that
case for a bunch of programs Alabama to get off
to as hard as a start as they wanted to.
Now they look like they're you know, right back.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
In and now. But you know, same thing for no
or Dame.

Speaker 7 (32:39):
You're sitting there zero too right now, all right, So
so what like go try to take one game of
a time, see where you get by the end of
the season, Like no one said it's gonna be easy.
And that's the problem is that it almost feels like
everyone feels like it's just supposed to go how the
script is supposed to go. It's it's kind of it's
wild to be. But if Klepsid were to move on

(33:03):
from Dabo, Sweetie, it would be maybe the greatest mistake
ever made by a school of college football history, Like
it would for sure be up there. I'm trying to
think of others, but this one sticks out more than
any of the right now.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, yeah, I can't think of anybody else as far
as like there's been some questionable firings, like we've brought
up you know, Nebraska and Bopolini a bunch of times,
but yeah, nothing to where a coach has had this
much success.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
No, I don't think anything.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Anytime a coach that's had this much success leaves on
his own, he makes a decision. They don't make the
decision for him, because if they do, they look stupid,
like it's him that moves on.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Nick Saban decided I'm moving on like I'm mad at here,
and he.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Did it with LSU to go to the NFL and
then did it with Alabama because he just got tired
of everything. Just you don't you don't see this on
the flip side, so it feels like a long shot
that would happen.

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Speaker 5 (34:11):
The Old P.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yeah, Petros Papadakis, Yes, he is a co host of
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Speaker 3 (34:22):
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Speaker 6 (34:26):
Good morning, so P, Hello, Hello, Hello.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
How we feel Petros? Are the Panic Brothers out yet?

Speaker 4 (34:35):
For the Dodgers struggles limes against the Phillies.

Speaker 13 (34:39):
It's pretty bad. I mean the Dodgers' bullpen is really bad.
I mean the starters are great and they go scoreless
and then the bullpen just blows it. The Phillies are
a lot like the Dodgers. They hit a lot of
home runs and they bonk those balls out of there
late in the game. Extra is two nights ago. Last night,

(35:02):
the Dodgers blew it again in the ninth. I wouldn't
say the Panic Brothers are out. I mean, the Panic
Brothers have been out, but I would say that they
have to go to the wild Card and it's not
going to be an easy path to the World Series
if they're gonna make it back, and we need the money.
So we'll see how it plays out. But it is

(35:25):
interesting to watch because, I mean, people said the Dodgers
were gonna win one hundred and twenty games. They was
supposed to be the greatest baseball team of all time?

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Who said that?

Speaker 5 (35:38):
Jo who said that.

Speaker 13 (35:41):
There's a lot of articles in town and the LA
Times and stuff with the way they built the team
going into the season, and when they started, I think
they were like eight to o, nine to oh. It
looked like they weren't going to lose a game all year,
and it certainly didn't play out like that. I mean,
they've been competitive and good and they probably will still
the division, but we'll see what happens without that bye week.

(36:03):
Maybe it'll be good for him without the bye week.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Who knows.

Speaker 13 (36:06):
But their bullpen is terrible and it's it's hard to
know what's going to happen with any of these guys, Tanner, Scott, Kirby, Yates,
all these guys they sign in the offseason. They're getting
their boobs scooped out like basking Robbins every time they
go pitch.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
I mean, they're really getting their tease lit, if you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, taking Otani out with a
no hitter going, I have that lamb with you.

Speaker 13 (36:34):
Well, you know they took out Todd of glass Now
the other night with a no hitter in like the
seventh Yeah, and he was like, you know, well.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
I understood why they took me out. I've been hurt.
It's like, don't you want to pitch a no hitter? Any?

Speaker 13 (36:47):
I mean, I I don't know, but whatever. I mean,
we're waiting for the playoffs. They all have bigger fish
to fry with the great football season underway, and we'll
see what happens in the White Card round. We'll gear
up and get all excited about it. I don't know
if they'll send me Warring out that I have a
new boss now.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
If the Dodgers lose early in the playoffs.

Speaker 13 (37:09):
Usually I have to really hore it out, like like
do a lot of BJ's shows and things of that
nature to.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Make Who's your new boss?

Speaker 13 (37:18):
A guy named Brian lay Long. Good man, he's fabulous.
But when our old boss Don Martin. You know, if
the Dodgers lost Big doll playoffs, yeah, which they did
for a long time. Uh, then I have to put
on my silk stockings and get my leg out in
the gutter and make some money in the final quarter
of the business year.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
But this year I don't have to. We'll see, we'll
see what happened.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
By the way, who is that fine pizza? Oh oh,
that's the.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
One year the Dodgers got eliminated.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
You guys got are doing impromptu Uh oh yeah that party?

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Yeah, we had to do it like a person.

Speaker 13 (37:54):
We got to make up one hundred and twelve twenty
thousand dollar y'all are going to do a Christmas party.
Angela is going to be mostly advertising based.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (38:04):
Well, so we'll see what happens this year. But it's
always it's not just a job, it's an adventure.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Oh god, that is hilarious. Go go, go cue.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
I was going to transition from that job to a
job that is now opened as the head coach of
UCLA just take me through the timing of all this
petros because it feels a bit early to just kind
of throw the towel on a guy who, I get it,
his opening press conference could have got any worse.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
But that team did improve the second half of last year.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
They did.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Why no grace given to Deshaun Foster to start this year?

Speaker 5 (38:41):
That's an interesting question.

Speaker 13 (38:43):
I think that UCLA was in a big, big problem
a couple.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Of years ago.

Speaker 13 (38:50):
At the end of the year, UCLA finished like seventy
seven and five when they very easily could have been,
you know, like ten.

Speaker 10 (38:59):
And and.

Speaker 13 (39:01):
Two, and the fan base was really really frustrated, and
everybody wanted chip Kelly fired, and Martin Jarmond, the ad
UCLA didn't do anything.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
He just didn't do anything.

Speaker 13 (39:17):
And chip Kelly went on to beat Boise State in
the LA Bowl and they finished with eight wins, and
nothing happened. Chip Kelly wasn't recruiting, he wasn't motivated, he
was not getting along with anybody at the university. So
at that point, if you're Martin Jarmond, you either find

(39:41):
a way to get along with your multimillion dollar head coach,
find a way to make the relationship work is that
as your job as the athletic director or fire him?
And he didn't do either. He didn't fire him, he
didn't repair the relationship. Next thing, you know, Chip Kelly
a better job that happens to be the coordinator job

(40:03):
at Ohio State. And then they go on to win
the national title, and now he's getting paid even more
to call plays for the Raiders. Three field goals worth
last on Monday night. So they Martin Jarman dropped the ball.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
With the relationship with Chip Kelly. So then what did
they do next?

Speaker 13 (40:24):
You know, there was timing was weird, but he still
didn't lift a finger. And they hired Deshon Foster. They're
running back coach UCLA legend, a guy that I played
a lot.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Of football against when I was a kid.

Speaker 13 (40:38):
De'shaun Foster, great guy, Brewin, legend, good recruiter, I guess,
running back coach. But nobody would have hired Deshon Foster
to even be a coordinator, let alone be a head coach.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
It's just no one else.

Speaker 13 (40:53):
Whatever you think about Deshon Foster, no one else was
going to hire Deshon Foster. So now Jarmin hires Deshaun
DeShawn was clearly and you just mentioned the big ten thing, he.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
Was clearly uncomfortable doing the job. He was aloof.

Speaker 13 (41:11):
He was unhappy answering questions about anything, which is fine
if you win games. They did improve a little bit
last year, ended up losing the USC and didn't make
a Bowl game, but you're right, the team looked like
they wouldn't win a game to start the year, and
they did get a little better. But this year, you know,

(41:32):
it's one thing to have Utah come out and beat
you in game one, but you lose back to back
games to Mountain West teams and the Rose Bowl is empty,
which it always is anyway. Now that's a real big problem.
So they went ahead and fired him. And they have
Tim Skipper, who was a good interim, well, a serviceable interim,

(41:52):
knows how to do this. He did it last year
at Fresno because Jeff Tedford's health problem caused him to
step down. So it's just been overall a very very
mismanaged situation, and Deshaun did himself no favors to start
this season off pissing off.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
The very soft LA media.

Speaker 13 (42:14):
And you know, if you piss off the media early
in the season, you build no equity with them, and
you lose two Mountain West games. They were going to
pile on him, and they did. So he ends up
making seventeen million dollars in a job that no one
else would have hired him to do. And now no
one has any confidence in the ad. Everybody wants him fired.

(42:35):
So who's going to hire the next head coach? Plus
the fact and I saw this text or email or
whatever it is, a tweet from Josh Pate, an ex
post the college football expert, and what he said was
painfully true. Most of the people getting mentioned for the
UCLA job have better jobs, and most of them are

(42:57):
coordinator jobs.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
UCLA is in a tough spot.

Speaker 13 (43:02):
And there are solutions for the UCLA football program, but
they're dramatic solutions. And a lot of people on the
West Coast like see this as karma because they feel
like UCLA was one of the one of the deciding
factors in ruining the PAC twelve. The deciding factor in
ruining the Pac twelve was Larry Scott, who drove the

(43:23):
thing into the ground for a decade plus. But there
is no doubt that UCLA is a national embarrassment and
they're supposed to be a lot better at football, or
they're pay more attention to football than they don't.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
I'm sorry to follow up, but I would love to know.
You know, they're they're moved to the Big Ten as
netted the more money round the TV media rights deal,
So why have they not been able to apply that
more to sports? It seems like they don't have a
collective they haven't done very well and being able to
kind of build that up if they're I guess alumni

(43:55):
and fan base is so robust and.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
They can complain about the move to the Big Ten.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
Why can't they stop bitching and why can't they step
up and support their sports programs?

Speaker 13 (44:05):
Well, I mean I think it goes first of all,
UCLA hoops is doing fine, right, Mick Cronin and men's basketball,
which they are blue blood. There's no doubt the history
of John Wooden, the Jim Herrick Championship.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Mick Cronan's doing great.

Speaker 13 (44:20):
He doesn't have a problem raising money for NIL and
he is the best, one of the best college coaches
on the West Coast in any sport. So he's been
able to transcend the athletic departments in aptitude the football.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Program has not.

Speaker 13 (44:39):
And you're right, Brady, they have a big earner in
their football program, and yet they don't know how to
utilize it and how to capitalize on it. And that's well,
it's been a long time thing at UCLA. Even when
I was younger, the Ucla mantra was, look how many

(45:00):
championships we have in all these sports, you know, high jump,
women's volleyball, you know, all this different stuff, which is great,
But all of those sports exist because of your football program.
All of those sports exist because football makes money and
funds everything else.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
So show special attention to the football program.

Speaker 13 (45:24):
If you're playing football at UCLA, because of the pecking
order of the world of athletics and who makes money,
you should probably feel a little bit more important than
the women's softball team, which is just the softball team,
because they don't play men's softball, so why don't they?
And that's always been a problem there. The other problem,

(45:45):
and I had a big thing on the show yesterday
about it, is their stadium. I mean just the Rose
Bowl is empty. A big stadium is not Rose Petros.

Speaker 7 (45:57):
It's so I mean incredible, the history, it's a great
the parking lot that surrounds it.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Have I ever told you this story, by the way, No.

Speaker 7 (46:07):
My sister used to tell me she always just to
go run the Rose Bowl. Yeah, well exactly, But I
thought like she got inside to the stadium and ran
up the stairs and ran exactly. I didn't know this.
So I go to the Rose Bowl and I'm like
trying to get inside. They're like, yeah, no, people just
run outside. I was like, in the parking lot. Yeah yeah,

(46:28):
people people just are running outside around the stadium.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Is stupid.

Speaker 7 (46:32):
I just drove forty five minutes out of my way
to go run in a parking lot.

Speaker 13 (46:37):
Well, it's not just the parking lot, it's the Historica
Royos haicle.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Oh it's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (46:44):
The Rose Bull is a great surface, it's a great
college football venue, but it's a terrible optical thing for UCLA,
and it's terrible for recruiting, and it's terrible for advertising,
and it's terrible for business that they just can't fill it.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
They can't fill.

Speaker 13 (46:58):
It halfway the last guy and they used to get
a sixty eight thousand fan attendance pretty regularly throughout my
childhood and all that. Terry Donahue, Bob Toledo Jim Mora
with Brett Huntley. I mean, they got people in there,
but now that ship has sailed post pandemic, the dream

(47:20):
of getting sixty thousand people at the Rose Bowl is over.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
They're on the quarter system as a.

Speaker 13 (47:25):
School, the kids, the kids need to be able to
walk over to the game, agreed, And going to SOFI
would not solve that problem. The drive from Inglewood to
Westwood is not much better than the drive from Westwood
to Pasadena. I mean it's really not, especially once you

(47:46):
get into Inglewood and try to get into that stadium
and they wouldn't. It doesn't solve the problem. Now they should.
I know that they're supposed to be historically a bigger
program than these teams I'm about to mention, but they
should follow this. I mean they won't do it because
it's a UC system and everybody's too stupid and everybody sucks.
But they need to follow the formula of Houston who

(48:10):
was swallowed up. Their atmosphere was swallowed up and no
one cared about Houston football playing in the Astrodome. Then
they move I think it was to Robertson Stadium, closer
to campus. Case Keenum and stuff like that. They have success.
And now they've built another on campus stadium, and obviously
they've moved up into the Big twelve, and Willie Fritz
is there. And then speaking of will and they've transformed

(48:33):
the identity of their program with two lane played in
the Superdome from the seventies for like thirty plus years,
swallowed up by the Superdome. None of the kids that
go to Tulane in the Garden District in New Orleans
would travel down and go to the games in the city,
none of them.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
It was swallowed up. Their atmosphere was swallowed up.

Speaker 13 (48:56):
They built an on campus stadium, thirty thousand seats two lane.
It sells out in fifteen minutes for games. Two lane
football is once again Willie Fritz showed up there, won
one hundred games, They beat USC in a Cotton Bowl,
and they just beat Duke at home in front of
thirty thousand two lane fans. Their program has been transferred,

(49:19):
transformed the identity of it because they built an on campus,
smaller stadium and created some atmosphere. UCLA has an on
campus stadium that they could redo Drake. The kids could
walk over. Now you mentioned the Rose Bowl in its
history and all that, Brady Fine. Every other year they

(49:39):
and they still have a contract with the Rose Bowl
to like three thousand, the year three thousand, So play
USC every other year at the Rose Bowl. When Ohio
State comes out here to play play in the Rose Bowl, Michigan,
Penn State, whatever Big ten, super king comes out then
f play them at the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
But the other five or six home games, play them
at home.

Speaker 13 (50:06):
Given a shot in the arm for Westwood Village and
the eateries and all the stuff there that's been destroyed
by the pandemic. It used to be a thriving university community.
It's not so much anymore. And I think that would
solve a lot of their problems. But they're too stupid.
I mean, I didn't even know who they're going to
hire to be the head coach. So but I do

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feel like an on campus stadium like Houston has done,
like Tulane has done, would really and they have it there,
would really solve a lot of UCLA's problems because I
just in the modern times in Los Angeles, nobody's getting
in the car to drive to these games, and it's
a terrible look for their program that there's literally like

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twelve thousand people there in one hundred thousand seat stadium.
It's just it's it's a very hard thing to overcome
for them. So I think they need to do that,
and Troy Aikman's been saying they need to.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Do it for years.

Speaker 13 (51:03):
It's not like a new idea, but now is the
time to change the landscape. And I just don't think
they have the leadership within the athletic department to do it.
A lot of people also blame the old chancellor at UCLA,
Gene Block, who's not there anymore than I think of
a new chancellor Julio Frank I think is his name,
and Block, you know, kind of wasn't that into sports,

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and it shows anyway, that's the answer.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
You know.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
What's curious about what you said in terms of not
being smart enough. U CLA basically says they take the
players that, uh well, would make it into USC and
that's that's what separates.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
The two, you know.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
They yeah, they don't They don't want the guys.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
That can make it into USC. They want the guys
that can go to use that.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
I mean, that's always living out here. That's kind of
like a running joke like that's like a running thing,
like you guys won't take the best athletes.

Speaker 13 (51:57):
Yes, I mean I got into Berkeley, but probably would
have got into.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
UCLA, which is crazy. Yeah, which is at Berkeley.

Speaker 13 (52:03):
I mean they're they're very similar schools, but Berkeley's a
pretty reputable academic institution. And you know, it's funny how
Stanford like wouldn't even look at my transcript and USC
said it they had some problems with it.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
U U C.

Speaker 13 (52:18):
L A was like, no, efing way, that's crazy. Yeah,
it is interesting. You know, that's kind of.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
Changed the academic part of it.

Speaker 13 (52:26):
I mean, Nico Iamaliava got a couple fs at at
Long Beach, Polly, and then he still ended up in college.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Right.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
And speaking of games, your alma mater is taking on
Michigan State. They're undefeated as well, but you and Oregon,
you know, USC and Oregon are out to one to
zero starts in the conference. How you feel about them
taking on the Spartans of Sparta.

Speaker 13 (52:48):
Well, I saw, I mean the Trojans versus Spartans. I
mean that is the Trojan War, that is Achilles and
the Actor and Odisayas.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
You know, that's everybody a parent hell out of Troy.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
I thought it was.

Speaker 6 (53:04):
Od says, Yeah, I thought it was Odecio, but I
refer to you obviously, But I thought.

Speaker 13 (53:09):
It was well, I mean people mispronounced it, Okay, I
mean it's not I wouldn't really call it a mispronunciation.
I mean people call it the oracle at Delphi. It's Delphie,
you know whatever. But yeah, I saw Michigan State to
open and I love that head coach Jonathan Smith. Uh,
it looks as if Aidan Chiles is playing like he

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was the number one quarterback in the transfer portal two
seasons ago.

Speaker 7 (53:37):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (53:37):
He is really athletic, effortlessly flicks the ball out there.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
They have a beautiful wide receiver in Nick.

Speaker 13 (53:45):
Marsh, the big, strong wide receiver Detroit kid. He's a
great athlete, you know, draft pick type of receiver. And
they've they've transferred in some other wide out so that
he's not completely double brack or whatever throughout the game.
So and they have a good looking tight end, Jack Velling.

(54:05):
They have two serviceable backs, a big one Tullus who
runs that big stretch zone that Jonathan Smith likes.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
They've improved a.

Speaker 13 (54:13):
Lot on the offensive line, defensively, pass, rush, secondary. I
don't know if they're that good, but they're going to
play a lot of different guys and platoon and try
to figure it out. This will be a big test
for USC because Jonathan Smith knows about the West Coast,
he knows about USC, he knows how to coach in
that stadium. He beat them there with Oregon State for

(54:37):
the first time in decades.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
He went down there and beat him with.

Speaker 13 (54:41):
Tight ends and with superior play calling and good balance.
So I believe Michigan State will come with that. USC's
looked okay, I mean, Perdue moved the ball a lot.
I think it'll be a shootout type of game. But
USC's look great with a couple of wide receivers Jacobe
Lane and Lemon looks spectacular and the quarterback looks pretty good.

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But this will be a big test, and I wouldn't
be surprised if the Spartans don't win it.

Speaker 7 (55:11):
Petros, I want to transition. The NFL rams are two
and oh, charges are two and oh. If you had
to place money right now and which one of those
teams making it in the playoffs making a deep run,
which one would it be?

Speaker 13 (55:22):
I mean, I think they both look like they could
right at this point. I mean, the quarterback's playing well,
Justin Herbert looks great and.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
But you know that.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, but there's gotta be one.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
That's like the thing about Khalil Mack just like his
arm just fell off, right, Yeah, and then and ray
Sean Slater did an interview with us during camp and
then like literally hours later, his leg fell off.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
It's hard to not feel bad about that.

Speaker 13 (55:46):
You know, You're like, hey, congrats on the contract we
got ah.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
Yeah, so sorry, are you the musher you the bad luck?

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Yeah? Yess. I don't know.

Speaker 13 (55:56):
I mean every Dodger believer we talked to, the guy
goes out there and gets it chest scooped out, you know.
But so with I mean, their best defensive player and
arguably their best offensive.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Player are both out for the year.

Speaker 13 (56:13):
It looks like or for a law I don't know
what what they said about Khalil Mack, but that didn't
look good. Uh So that's that's not a great thing
for the Chargers. But Harbaugh is a good coach everywhere
he's gone. Suddenly the team has balanced. Suddenly they they
seem to be motivated in a different way and even
though McVeigh is just insufferable to listen to. For me,

(56:34):
sounds like a guy doing an imitation at John Gruden.
He's a really good coach and he just to Fasciatis,
I'm going to have a little bit of a lip,
you know, kind of swagy lip.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
Guy shut up.

Speaker 13 (56:49):
But he's a good coach man. And the Rams and
they look really good. And Stafford, you know, it look
turns out that he doesn't need a bachiotomy.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
His back is okay. So that's a really good question.

Speaker 13 (57:03):
I mean, I would say the Rams are more proven
under McVeigh to make a deep playoff run.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
The next time the Chargers make a.

Speaker 13 (57:09):
D off deep playoff run in my lifetime will be
the first, I mean ever since they played in the
Super Bowl against Steve Young. I mean that's a last yeah,
I mean, that's the last time. I really the Chargers
have really threatened. I mean, Philip Rivers and Ladanian maybe
so the Chargers are the ones.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
It's more like Missouri show me.

Speaker 13 (57:31):
But but the Rams, they they they've had sustained success
under McVeigh and Stafford and his annoying wife, and it's
hard to pook my friend Pooka Nakua out of by
u Via, Washington and committed to USC. So I'm sad
to say it's probably the ram Alama ding Dongs Patra

(57:52):
speaking of the Rams, I'm a Rambassador.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Are you Are you calling a game this weekend?

Speaker 5 (57:57):
I am.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah, it's the Colorado State UTSA.

Speaker 13 (58:00):
I'm not good enough to call a game every weekend,
but I'm good enough to call a game this weekend.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Who do you got?

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Colorado State UTSA?

Speaker 13 (58:08):
U TSA's got the best, the number one or the
leading rusher in the country.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
You got us.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
He's not as good as he once was.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Are you going to get to see your favorite mascot
up close?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
He's as good as he's going to be.

Speaker 13 (58:19):
He's more machine than man now twisted and Ethan.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (58:25):
Robert Henry Junior, Yeah, Bob Henry out of Mississippi. Yeah,
he's Uh, this guy's already he's averaging ten yards of carry.
Uh only five nine, but like a big stride. And
all the mccowns have come through this coach.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Jeff Trailer at essays, Yeah.

Speaker 13 (58:42):
UTSA is really interesting. They have Owen McCown, whose son
of I believe he's Josh's son. So he's the quarterback
and uh uh I love j Norvell. I've always loved Jay.
He's a great guy in his uh his quarterbacks, Crowler
Fowler Nicolosi is the guy who got in a fight

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with Shadour last year.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
He's one of the better quarterbacks in the Mountain West.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
And your favorite mascot up close and personal in Colorado.

Speaker 13 (59:09):
Oh yeah, Cam the ram with his big hairy balls. Kim,
what have you ever seen Cam the rams ball sack?

Speaker 5 (59:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Oh, you could not believe it. It's auffel bag.

Speaker 13 (59:20):
He's just coming out of the mountains, coming out of
the Rocky Mountains, just ready for return.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Up the sack. Tang.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
Oh, I've learned something. I'm today years old. When I
learned this, I knew this.

Speaker 13 (59:34):
I remember doing a Colorado, Colorado the what do they
call it, the Rocky Mountain showdown at mile High and
Ralphie the buffalo who is a female because they can't
male buffalo.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
They could just bare I mean they can barely hold
the woman back.

Speaker 13 (59:51):
And Ralphie does the run, which is one of the
great things in college football and probably totally inhumane, but
and little bit safer, a little safer at mile High
because it's got a thicker sideline than than fulsome field.
It's pretty tight corners at Fulsom Field when they run
that buffalo, but they run the buffalo and then you know,

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Colorado State literally has like a goat.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
And they're like, you know that's you know, like running
with his bell, you know, and uh just slid Pitcher.

Speaker 13 (01:00:34):
The picture, you know, and they call them CAM the
Ram because Colorado State used to be.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Different Colorado A and M so cam c AM.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
They got a statue of it. It's like you you
can't sit there.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
You can't have like a castrated goat. You know, you
got to have its balls.

Speaker 13 (01:01:00):
You ain't coming to lectly since the other school in
the state has like a female mascot.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
Really flaunted like them and the Beavers this giant ball.

Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
By the way, on uh old Bobby Henry, he ran
well versus am like everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
It's not like I know he's stay in the carter word.
But he's a stud.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
No, he's gashing everybody for long, long runs.

Speaker 13 (01:01:27):
Uh. He's a home you know, it's one thing. And
he's a physical back and you know he gets his five.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
Yards when you need him.

Speaker 13 (01:01:33):
But uh, he's he's you know, he's a home run
hitting back, which is really what kind of stood out
to me last year with Ashton genty.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:01:41):
You know, he he was getting down the field and
he had a plan when he was down the field.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
But but yes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Uh is a home run hitter.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
He is.

Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
Well, I've just provided a photo of you boys that's
more realistic the one LeVar sense not really.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
Oh god, oh my gosh, trust that kidding me. Trust
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