September 18, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Airings, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on Fox Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Week three in the NFL does kickoff later on tonight.
We've got the Dolphins, We've got the Bills. Buffalo currently
a twelve and a half point favorite on DraftKings.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I mean, they got no faith in the fins.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Alright, So let me ask you this. If Buffalo goes
out and just annihilates Miami tonight, are we having a
discussion tomorrow morning about a coaching change or is it
still too soon.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
To do that. I feel like it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
It is.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Can I ask this though? Was it Pete who said
this or I don't know who brought it up? But honestly,
what good does that do your organization?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
I think when we had that conversation yesterday, I thought
you brought up some valid points. What it does is
is you've now hit three set button, and you can
you can position yourself where the first, the first amazing
coach that you want to get, you're already ahead on
trying to get that coach. That's that's to me, That's
(01:14):
the only thing I could sit there and say, would
be the valid reason of cutting ties with a coach
so early is that maybe you feel like there's a
coach that can enter room run the team for this
year until you stop got coach until you get to
the offseason. But make no mistake about it, you're still
going to be some way, somehow testing the waters as
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to who you could bring in as your next head coach.
And you get the first it's almost like you get
the first shot at it.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You get to start preparing for that new coach.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
I do want to clarify I would saying that in
relation to college football. Yeah, true, where I feel like
the NFL is a bit different because they don't have
free agency to their season.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You know, it's not as you know.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Wild of a world where all of a sudden, it
comes down to week fourteen, fifteen sixteen in the NFL
and general managers and head coaches are saying, oh, guys,
we gotta worry about the draft class. We have to
worry about free agency, like they all of a sudden
have to worry about roster construction and then guys going
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elsewhere because you know, everyone could be a free agent
after every year technically, and then on top of that,
they're going to, you know, build the roster off that
make decisions in the next you know, a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Like if you're punting on your season, though, you get
to start on all those things you just mentioned right now.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Right, but you have until March, you have until the
end of April.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
You know, you have until such a long period of
time in the NFL to make those decisions. So to me,
it's a bit of an Apple's Orages comparison, outside of
the thought of get you get a jumpstart on whoever
that next is, you get a jump start on it,
and you can start, you know, kind of prepare yourself
for that search, prepare yourself for you know, what's gonna
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happen next. But I just this early in the NFL season,
it makes no sense because all it does is show
me how adept you are as an organization that you
should have fired him in the off.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Season hundred percent. That's remember a few years back when
the Bengals fired I think it was Bill Laser, their
offensive coordinator, and they fired him after Laser, they fired
him after they fired they fired him after Week two
and it was a Thursday night game, So basically they
fired a guy ten games ten days into the season,
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Why didn't you just fire him eleven days earlier? Like it,
It doesn't add That's the part that doesn't make sense
to me. But if it goes so poorly tonight, and
you know, one of the names that Albert Breer through
or not Albert, but Pete Prisco through out there was
you know Anthony Weaver, Like is you know he did
some interviews last year he's their defensive actually, Like, but
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is there defense been anything to like brag about.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
No, it's not always about that. I mean I was.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I was in Denver where they fired Josh Mactango's and
they elevated Eric Studentsville. You know, Eric had zero head
coaching experience at that point, you know, and he was
just uned as a guy that they just they felt
like could unite the team.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
You know, they they'll make whatever decision they make for.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
You know, press or pr it's just you know, it's
honestly doesn't really matter that much. But they'll you know,
say that they'll annoyed someone who they feel like they
were feel confident in getting them through the season. It's
basically like this, It's basically like you beat on a
plane and they're like, uh, the pilot passed out. We
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we got a land Now basically all you have to
do is put this thing on an idle pilot. But
we do need someone to come up and be responsible
forgetting thing to the runway.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
All right, anybody want to sit in there is anyone
willing to volunteer, And so here's what happens. You get
leave a lap in road who's got a bunch of
mini bottles like, oh, yeah, I'll do it, and they're like, no,
we don't.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
We don't know, so we don't want you, you know.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
They get some other people, like there's like a ten
year old kid who's like, I'll do it, and they're like, no,
you're not old enough.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's probably the one be able to do it. Actually,
well they see.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
LeVar, who's reasonable, who looks responsible, who's a signal of strength,
and he goes, I'll do it, and they're like, yes,
that's our band. You don't have to do much. Just
sit in the seat and make everyone feel confident. We're
gonna lay this play ut. That's essentially what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'll do this.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I'm all right, everybody calm down, and he'll say I'm
really gonna do this. I ain't gonna let y'all see
me sweat, though, like you to do it. And the
first time he's flowing a plane. Hey do we happen
to have manual available? Okay, thank you? Let me see
this all right? Okay, we have some uh we have
some internet?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Great?
Speaker 6 (06:06):
All right, let me Grock this all right, here's the
design of this this aircraft. All right, just give me
a crash course on how I can land this baby.
And this is my first time ever flying an airplane.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm going to use a different term than crash course
though with people on a plane.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
We have a problem.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I don't think I would say crash course out loud.
I just in my mind I think that that's what
I'd be running at that moment.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Imagine barbiing like I got it. I just looked at Grock.
I can land this bad boy. We'll be fine. I mean, hey,
I'm probably.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I talked to Evan Williams. Evan Williams told me this
is how you land a plane.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I saw the process. I've seen the process though I
have sat in the cockpit when landing a big one too.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Bat.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm sure you did you see that?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Did you see the video of the cops that pulled
the guy off the Southwest flight. The the guy who
was flying, the pilot was flying the plane there, they
pulled him off the flight.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They interviewed him.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And they're asked him like, hey, you know, some people
have smelled alcohol on you. You seem a little intoxicated.
He was like, did you drink last night? I had
a few beers? Like what a how long ago? At
least ten hours? He started going through full blown hammered
what was on the plane ready to fly?
Speaker 6 (07:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
It's a little bit a little bit more alarming is
apparently there's a Spirit flight that was like headed directly
towards Air Force.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh yeah, yeah. Were they not paying attention or somebody.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Like, I don't know, the guy's yelled up to get
off his iPad. What was interesting about is, so, what
are my buddies that I had this debate between Southwestern
Spirit and I have a staunch defender of Spirit.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Now this has everything to do with the fact that
I have no.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Expectations when it comes to Spirit airlines, Like, my expectations
are so low that it's kind of hard to like,
you know, make it a miserable trip. Because I'm already
expecting it to be miserable, but they actually, like they
have big, big seats in the front. Their Wi Fi
is actually fast. When they have Wi Fi, it's it's
one of the faster Wi fis out there. They don't
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have that bad of an option for food. Granted you
have to pay for it, but it is what it is.
And honestly, they actually are a discount airline. You're gonna
get a cheap flight. So I always say to them,
like every time I fly Spirit, I'm like pleasantly surprised.
Maybe it's just because I'm not expecting to actually survive
and I do, so I'm like, ah, got away with
another one. But with like Southwest, that airline. I don't
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know why, but I'm just I'm always disappointed. It's like
the exact opposite. I'm not sure if it's the boarding process,
the fact that they have really no options for food.
Their internet stinks, it's outdated. I'm not sure They're plays
are outdated. Like I'm not sure which it is, but
but for some reason, I'm a staunch defender of Spirit Airlines.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Don't judge me for that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Is it that they dress themselves up as a legitimate
airline and then you get on there and go, this
is low budget, like this is discount when they land
when they when they land, a like Southwest lands the
plane and it's like sometimes I think path of it's
going to fall off? It just like yeah, I mean
it moves.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
My understanding is Southwest bought older planes, but they have
more experienced pilots. And then the contras is Spirit, who
bought newer planes have less experienced pilots.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
So so pick your poison. But I guess my.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Thought is I'm not trying to you want it, you
want to do or played, because as much as you
want an experienced pilot, if the wings falling off wasn't matter,
you know.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah, it's a I don't know man. That that's an
apples the oranges compare. If you can't flag at dang plane,
I don't give a dang about a wing. And the
bottom line is you don't know if the wing's gonna
fall off or if the man can fly or a woman.
To that point, well, most of it's on autopilot. Now,
is the old ass playing. I don't know if it's
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on autopilote, I don't know anything. You don't know anything.
That's the craziest thing is you really walk on to
a tube where you know nothing other than I'm sitting here.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Just put all your faith in them and somebody you
don't even know. If I don't know your first name,
I don't know anything.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Thank you for that thought. Yeah, I really feel comforted. Now,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's great, It is great.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And then to think that some slappy could be sitting
there and all he's got to do is not have
had a drink in the last eleven hours.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He could have been a happy hour yesterday. But as
long as you didn't have anything since then you'll be
fine to get to where you need to go, is uh?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
I mean the fact that we haven't heard that is
a part of a live show that isn't here.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It just shows you what the capabilities of people are.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Should we try to implement an airline policy similar to
to what this is? Like Lee can't have a drink
for ten hours?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know? Good luck?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
You know what we should do? We should call Lee
every hour on live on air.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, it works, that works.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I think we should call him.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
In fact, that sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
We should call him right now? You think so yeah,
we should call him right now, and do you want
to do it?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
No, you guys do this? Well, why don't we go
to break? We'll come back and do it.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Okay, let's go to break.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Let's go to break and let's call him right out
or to break and see if we could get an answer.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Those are wonder if he answers. That is not our
tire ract play of the day all I just want
to be clear on that.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We will.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
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on that you know what he's dodging at the time.
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Speaker 5 (12:29):
Jonas, can you enlighten us on what's happening with the
Jake Paul Javonte Davis Take David because you think it
moved to Miami?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeick, So it was supposed to be in Georgia and
then the fight got.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Moved to Why it was gonna be in Georgia versus
Miami or Vegas or.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, I don't know exactly why there. I think that
the report coming out is that the Georgia Entertainment and
Athletic Commission said that, well, they didn't have clearance to
promote the fight the way that they were, and then
Jake Paul and his people said, no tickets were sold, No,
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nothing happens, We'll just move it to Miami. I just
I'll be honest with you. After seeing Terence Crawford Canelo Alvarez,
I don't really have a lot of time for an
exhibition bout between two guys and one's got a sixty
pound weight advantage. And I don't know if part of
the reason why they didn't have full clearance from the
Athletic Commission was because of the weight discrepancy. But that
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does happen if they're not if they're not going to
sanction it, then they'll find some other place it would
I would ask you this though, from a fighter standpoint,
wouldn't you rather have it in Miami for tax purposes? Like,
if you're going to be working there, wouldn't you rather
do it there? So it feels like everybody.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I have no idea how they are taxed by assumptions
though that, yeah, you'd rather have it.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
A place, no city.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
For Davonte to do something like this says, I mean,
I don't know, man, that's it's a horrible move for
his his career.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Horrible. Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I don't think people judge them, but I think I
think they get paid and they you know.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
He's still an active fighter, and he's and he's a
very well respected fighter. He just had a tough one,
I mean, and he probably should have lost, but it
was a split. But he's still nonetheless like he's still
wanted the more exciting fighters that are out there. I
just think it turns it into somewhat of a clown show.
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I think like part of the discussion about it is
that there might have been an offer on the table, like, hey,
here's the offer, take it.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Now or it's gone. It's a ton of money, And
he said, all right, well, I'll take the money now
and I'll get back to.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
My it's a ton of money.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
It's gotta be a f load of money, man, just
just a ton of money for him to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's it's an exhibition. I'm just not doesn't do it
for me? Sorry, what is he?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I mean, he gains a lot of money off of
doing it, But what else do you gain by fighting
Jake Paul?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Like what I mean, you're opening yourself up to an
audience that you know, unless you're boxing fans. I don't
know how many people know Tank Davis, right, Like if
you're a streamer or a YouTuber, whatever you'd say, Jake
Paul's audience is this is opening you up to a
new world of I guess fandom or people who might
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follow you.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Is that he's still he's still undefeated, and he's still
one of the top guys out there. I just think
this is this is it's a bad decision. It's a
bad look like if and I don't I'm not even
a boxing purist, but I am a fight fan. If
you're at the end of your career, if you're done
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with your career, like what Mike Tyson and them are doing,
like you want to put on a wh Yeah, you
want to put on a show, put on a show,
but he's he's still like legit in his career, prime
of his career.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Like this makes no sense.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
It makes no sense, not even for the I want
to gain exposure from from a different It doesn't make sense.
And it also I don't it's not a knock on
Jake Paul because I think what he's done with Logan
Paul have done has been fantastic. And I think Jake
Paul's gotten better and better. And he's a legit good boxer,
like he's got good skills, but.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
It's always it's never quite a legit and I don't
want to say legit, but it's never quite a fight
that you look at and go, oh, yeah, I couldn
because everything's got to catch to it. Well, it's a
retired MMA fighter, or it's it's uh, this guy who's
never boxed professionally before, or it's Mike Tyson and he's
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sixty years.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Well Davis Javante at his size could probably knock Paul out.
He he hits hard enough where he could, and he's
quick enough, and he's crafty enough, and he's in his
prime where he could knock Paul out. He could actually
knock him out. The point is is, though, they're not
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going to allow that to happen. No, you clearly saw
Mike Tyson with his old ass was pulling punches. Damn,
it was pulling punches. Yeah, hey man, that bag is
a bag. And I'm saying you go out there, we're
gonna spar I'm gonna make it through the you know,
through the fight.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I saw his bag.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Damn, that's true.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I just I think I don't think it's I think
it's it's so I don't think it's a good move
for Javonta.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Let me let me ask you has this counter programming?
All Right, you've got that fight, it's supposed to be
on November sixteenth, that same night, you've got Clemson at
Louisville College football, You've got min Minnesota at Oregon.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know where I'll be.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's what I'm saying, like, Yeah, this's just I feel
like there's gonna be other options at that time that uh,
you know, unless maybe you'll take a peek at it.
But and it's on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
I believe the thing about it is Jake Paul's turned
himself into the new Floyd Mayweather. And and no not
because he can box and he has the type of
talent and skill that that Floyd had. It's that he's
created a persona that makes people hate him. You either
love him or you hate him. And then when you
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look at it from the standpoint of, well, why would
you watch the fight this is now? You watch the
fight with Mike Tyson before going into it and seeing
what happened. You watched it with the idea that even
at Mike's age, he probably could knock Jake Paul out right, So.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
That's what that's what people are hoping.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
You're hoping that he gets knocked out and and and
Gravante that it's probably the only this is the first
fight that I would say, even though he's smaller, this
is the first fighter that that I would say could
really knock him out. That and and by him doing that,
getting a guy that is into his prime that that
does have some like out of the ring issues taking place.
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That may be the reason why he's taking this fight.
I don't know. He might be suspended, not even able
to fight, you know, a sanctioned fight. He still boxes
outside of the ring apparently, And so look him up.
I mean, you're fair hearing them little fingers. He's got
to look that thing up. Yeah, he doesn't stop. He
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doesn't stop the jabs.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
He's had some stuff in public at other fights while
he's in the crowd where like he's getting rough.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, you know, you know, he's he's tanked. He's a
little tank, but little tank tank. But this is the
first one I'd say that people are going to watch
to see, is this the one where he gets knocked out?
That's that's that's the reason why these fights work. But
that Mike Tyson one just it ruined it. If you're
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if you want to watch it for entertainment, watch it
for entertainment. If you're watching it for anything other than that,
you're dumb.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
They were trying to line up and they were down
the road in negotiations for a Jake Paul Cannelo Alvarez fight.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Which is stupid. Well that's super super stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's what led to the Bud Crawford fight, because then
all of it and Basically what ended up happening is
Canelo used it as leverage and Turk al Chic, who
runs ri odd season, who's putting all these massive fights
on in Saudi Arabia. He basically just came to Canelo
and said, all right, well, how about this, I'll give
you a three fight deal for you know whatever, hundreds
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of millions of dollars, and Canelo Avaree is like, yeah,
we're good here because Canelo looks at it, like what
you just said, Labar, I could I could take that
Jake Paul fight after my career is over.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
When I'm done, Yeah, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, all he wants me to take it.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You want me to take a fall, take a loss
in the exhibition, Like, I'll do what I'm done. I'm
not going to do that while I'm in the middle
of my career and I'm still trying to like get
get big paydays. I mean, Javonte generates a ton of
money for for pay per views. I mean he's one
of those guys. He is a generator. So and now
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it's shifted. It's shifting like now Bud is taken taking
that that title, He's going to be the one that
is now able to generate big, big time money for
super Fight, you know, whether they pay for it to
be streamed or whether they put it in pay per
view per se. It's Bud Crawford. But I'm telling you
the one that's out there that nobody is really talking about,
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that that he is a killers ben a Videz. Dude
is a bro and he's got the whole swag from him. Y'all,
y'all want to talk about the onesie in Cincinnati. Check
check out his situation. Check out check out what he
got going on. Benevetas ain't playing around, bro, not in
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the ring or out of it. He he he embodies
what being a champ represents is what I'll say. And
I can guarantee you he wouldn't be fighting. I guarantee
you Jake Paul went and try to fight Benevetez. Throw
his name out there, do it? Do exhibition with him?
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Oh yeah, on a millipede. Yea a millipede that makes
all the sense of the world.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
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Speaker 2 (22:37):
All right, so we have a traditions to a pold
here on this show. One of those involves this man,
the great Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the mm QB. He's also the voice of Buckeye Nation.
He's the reason they are the defending national champions and
number one in the country. The one and only our
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Breer with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
A B.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Good morning, feeling.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
I don't know how people have ever feel about me
being the voice of buck Eye Nation, but I'll take it.
I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Do you have any concerns about just the offense? I mean,
it's they got those slow star wars Ohio University. I
know how how he was one of the better MAC teams.
But any thoughts on the offense?
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Yeah, no, I think I said last week, didn't I
didn't that take all you to cover last week? I
think that's right, right, Johns, You the one who keeps
track of it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, I believe he did.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Yes, I did. I took him to cover last week,
so I guess I guess. I guess I was ahead
of that one. Yeah, I mean, I think the red
zone offense has been an issue off and on the
last few years, so I've got a little concern there.
But you know, maybe you get that freshman running back
a little bit more run and we'll be okay. So
I feel okay, Yeah, I mean, he looks like he
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can really play. I guess he was hurt as a
senior in high school and so maybe one rated and
I think he was still like top hundred in the
country or something like that, but like maybe it wasn't
rated the way he should have been. But he looks awesome,
so so yeah, no, I have I have mild concerns
about the red zone offense, but that's just sort of
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like PTSD lingering stuff from the last few years.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Maybe I'm curious because we were kicking this around earlier.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
I know that's how you guys are bringing me in
to break down the Buckeyes, right.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, thanks for joining us out for That'll be it.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I actually dowed out too much.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But I'm just I'm curious because we were kind of
kicking this around earlier, the potential of this happening, even
though it's two and a half weeks into the season.
Because it's a Thursday, night game. If things go really
bad for Miami tonight, what are the chances we could
be talking about a coaching change already at some point
this weekend in Miami.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
I mean, are we talking about it or is it happening?
Because if it goes bad, and I think we're all
going to be talking about it, Whether or not it
happens is probably another story.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
I look like I think there's a there's a few
things that works here. Number one, like they're like, over
the course of the off season, there's a lot of
noise about like what was a messy situation internally there,
And you know, really, I think a huge part of
it comes down to the way star players were treated
the last few years. There were players in att locker room.
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It felt like there was a double standard. So they
tried to make some changes to kind of get the
culture back this off season. One of them was trading
away Jalen Ramsey. Then I think on top of that,
they're they're going through a natural reset, slash rebuild, whatever
you want to call it. And you know, like so
toront Arms has gone, now, Ramsey's gone now, you know,
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and I think they sort of felt like and I
think they're right about this that they kind of maxed
out with that group that they brought in, that they
built aggressively while two was still in his rookie contract.
So they're going to be going through a little bit
of a retooling over the next year or two anyway,
And generally when you're in that spot, you know, an
owner is going to ask big picture questions like do
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I have the right people in charge right now? And
so you know, you add that those two things to
the fact that they're own to now. The first game
was a complete no show. The second game wasn't a
no show. I think the effort was better in the
second game, but there were still a lot of like
operational issues. And so now you've got like this Thursday
night game, which I mean, we've seen the way these
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things go, like the way the volume gets turned up
and standalone games and the way people sort of talk
about things differently because it's the only show, it's the
only game on And yeah, I mean, I think if
if Buffalo comes out and it's you know, which could happen,
If it Bubble comes out and it's twenty four to
nothing in the middle of the second quarter, then every
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single one of us is going to be talking about
how much longer does this last? With Mike McDaniel. I
don't know whether or not Steven Rock has the appetite
to pull the plug early. I think if he did,
it would probably relate to wanting to get a look
at Anthony Weaver as a potential head coach and get
him an audition. I still think it's early for that,
but you know, I certainly think some of the conversation
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around it. I think Mike's a really good coach, but
I think some of the conversation around it is certainly
is certainly you know, something that's warranted, and because I
do think it's something that's going to be happening internally,
over the course of the year, things will turn around.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Albert, we kind of talked about this earlier in the week,
like what good does this really do for the Dolphins?
I mean, even though you could say, oh, it gives
you a jump on the head coaching search somewhat, we
know other organizations that are back channeling where they've got
a guy in place that they know they're going to fire,
So like, why why now?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Like this just takes the entire season.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Yeah, I always ask that question too, Brady, And I
think I think it's the right question to ask, like
because you know, it's like last year with the Jets, right,
like Robert Sala hadn't lost that team like that. That
situation was the owner wanting his time to flesh, the
owner being on social media and taking too much attention
to what was being said in the tabloids, and you know,
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the owner Like like, I think in a lot of cases,
it can be to playcate of fan base. It can
be to it can be it can be in an
overreaction to you know, public sentiment, you know, and I
and I and I don't know. I wouldn't say that
that that that Stephen Ross is overly prone to that
sort of thing, although he has, you know, gone through
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a mid season firing before, so I think it would
have to be. To me, it has to be one
of two things. It's either Mike McDaniel has lost the
team to the point where it's becoming a poisonous environment
for the rest of the players, and you don't want
your younger players developing in that environment the rest of
the year. I don't think that's necessarily the case now,
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I don't think do I think every single player in
that locker room and walked in on every word. Mike
NC Daniel says, no, Do I think the the environment
has gotten to the point where it's poisonous. I don't
think it's there yet. The second reason to do it
would be you think so much of someone on your
staff that you want to get that get a real
look at them as a potential head coach. And they
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love Anthony Weaver, you know, like I. You know, I
I think the locker room, the defensive players really like
Anthony Weaver. So like, I do think I could get
to that point. But do I think that you need
to see like fourteen games of him and risk a
lot of other things going wrong? Probably not like you
Probably you know, get a shorter sample size on that.
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So those would be the two reasons to do it.
I think those two reasons can be valid to do
it this early. But you know, I just again, like,
I don't think we're at that point on either front
with the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
But yet I'm gonna shift gears from this game and
ask you about what's going on with Tom Brady. It
would be and just all the murmuring and discussion points,
does this does this bubble up into something big enough
where there actually has to be a real conversation one
way or the other. I would assume there's no going
back once you're approved as as someone that's the owner.
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But that does that make it a more intense conversation
for his employment with Fox?
Speaker 8 (30:23):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's an interesting conversation
because I do think it touches on some things that
people aren't really talking about right now, the strategic stuff.
I don't know. Man, Like I think that like you
have to be careful, is that if you're one of
these games, right, Like, so obviously in the Raiders play
the Commanders this week, Brady had the Commanders two weeks ago.
Brady has the Bears this week. The Raiders have the
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Bears next week. So there are those things where you
have to be careful and you have to be smart.
I think if you're a coach or a player on
one of those teams, and I and I certainly think
it's fair to be concerned about like you put a
younger players in one of these productions meetings and like
he idolizes Brady, right, so he gets comfortable talking to
Brady and does he lets some things slip because like
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it's important for him personally to have a relationship with Brady, Like,
teams are going to have to be careful about those things,
no doubt, Like I think that that's a fair thing
to worry about. I actually don't think like the game
strategy thing is the big deal though for me. I
think what like owners would be more concerned about as
far as just from a competitive advantage standpoint is the
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ability to access players and coaches on other teams in
a way that would be tampering for the other thirty one. Right,
In other words, like is Tom Brady able to kind
of like get a character assessment on players from being
around them through his broadcast job. That's going to help
inform the Raiders' decisions on free agency and trades going forward. Right,
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So he has a chance to say, they have the
Chiefs three times and I don't know, pick a free
agent for the Chiefs, the guy from the Chiefs who's
going to be a free agent next year. Right, Well, now, Brady,
he actually has had the opportunity to sit down and
be around those guys and talk to other people in
the organization about that guy three different times, and now
he has all this background on a guy who might
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be signed fifteen minutes after free agency starts. So none
of the other teams are going to have the opportunity
to do that sort of thing. Same thing. I'm the
coaching front right, Like, so, like, let's say the Raiders
aren't happy with one of their coordinators. Now Brady got
to meet you know, let's say it's defensive coordinator. Brady
got to meet five or six linebackers coaches over the
course of the season through his Fox job, and he
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was standing on the field and got to meet them
that way, or he got to meet them in a
production meeting. And now but he's able to hit the
ground running and be aggressive and going and getting the
guy he wants while other teams are still going through
the process of getting to know all these guys, you know,
early in the offseason. There are those sorts of things
that I think are very real competitive advantages for the
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Raiders from a team building standpoint. And I think that's
the stuff that people aren't paying attention to, right I
think it's the coaching players. Yeah, goh, Brady, No, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Gonna say it, but like, come on, these coaches, no
other linebackers, coaches, they have networks.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I mean, this is the league that.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Albert I'm just saying, like honestly, like it's it's no
different And we said this earlier, like the science stealing
thing with Connor Stallion's like everyone makes a big deal
about it and reality, what was the actual impact that
had on games? Probably not as much, especially considering everyone
knew about it. Everyone was changing their signals, everyone was
actually helping other teams that went against Michigan prepare by
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giving them their signals.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Like the whole entire thing to me was a little
bit overblown in this sense.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
It's like okay, but like everyone knows everyone in the league,
and like are there new linebackers coaches.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
That they're unaware of?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Like, well, tampering rules are effect because you don't want
to try to obviously have a guy who's currently hired
somewhere else be talking to another team elsewhere. Like that's
why tampering exists, Like it's it's in a moral in
that sense. It's not because they're worried about the relationship.
I mean, like, do you think Tom Brady right now
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is free time? I mean, given that he's probably the
most eligiber bachelor that is out there is more focused
on who that next hot linebacker coaches.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
That they're gonna havent No, but I think, but I
think anybody who's been around Tom knows how ultra competitive
he is and knows that, like and look like this
is Tom's personality, like I and I'm not saying he's.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Doing I'm not even saying this is I trust he
doesn't want to Alcrez Skinner situation to happen, you.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Know, off the field.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
I mean, like, so he's got the Bears and Cowboys
this week. Let's just say, you know again, like he's
in a he's in a production meeting with carry von
Diggs and tryvon Diggs gets cut after the year. Well
like and and the Fox crew is probably going like
that crew is probably gonna have the Cowboys five times
this year. Right, So now Brady has like such like
it has has had intimate knowledge of someone else, of
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the guy somebody else is you know, cutting, and the
Raiders have a hole at corner. So now all of
a sudden, the Raiders can hit the ground running because
they know the guy is. The background work is done
and they can aggressively move and value.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Okay, but then then why allow to do both in
the first case, Like this goes back.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
To the initial side.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Now here's why. That's the interesting part about it, right,
Like to me, like, that's that is why, Like, and
I don't want to make this just about Fox. I
know we're on a Fox platform here, but like I like,
I think it's like ESPN paying Joe Buck and Troyman
eighteen million dollars year piece.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Right.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
The reason why ESPN did that, and both those guys
are phenomenal at what they do, so this is like
a credit to them, right. But the reason the SPN
does that is because ESPN wanted to get into the
into the Super Bowl rotation and the NFL it basically
signaled the ESPN, your broadcast on Monday night right now
does not feel big enough. It does not is not
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it does not elevate the game enough for us to
give you a super Bowl. Really, And that was it. Yeah,
So they go and they go and they bring in
Joe and Troy because they want they because ESPN wanted
into the super Bowl rotation. And after they get Joe
and Troy, what happens. They're into the super Bowl rotation.
The reason I'm telling that story is because the NFL
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their concern is, I'm making every game seem as much,
seems seem like as much of an event as they
possibly can, to build it up as much as they
possibly can, and having Tom Brady on the broadcast helps
them build up like the games that Tom Brady's on like,
it helps build up those games. And so it's in
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the NFL office's best interest to have the highest profile
guy possible who can make the game feel the biggest
in the boost. Right, it's like the John Madden effect. Right,
like every game when you were a kid, every game
that John Madden and Pat Summer I'll call when we
were kids felt like a massive game. Right, that's the premise.
And so like the feeling is the bigger the name
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we have in the booths, the bigger the game field.
And so the NFL is going to bend over backwards.
Is the NFL league off. It's not the owner, it's
not the thirty two, But then the NFL league off,
league off. It's well, yeah, we're going to bend over
backwards because we want the games to feel as big
as possible. Brady will help us do that, which ultimately
will help make the broadcast package is as valuable as
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possible and help us make the most money. So, like,
I think that that's why Brady is like that they
wanted this is like typical. The NFL wants this cake,
wants to have its cake and eat it too, Right.
Having Brady with the Raiders was great for the Raiders
because it helped bring in all these big money guys
who change the face of the franchise. You're Michael Meldchan's
your EGANDURB and Tom Whicker's business partner. So that helps
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the Raiders that help survive an iconic brand. And then
Tom Brady is the broadcast or helped to build up
the actual games themselves. And so it's a unique situation
because of who Tom Brady is. And you know, I
think this again is like is there a confidence here? Yeah,
but the NFL is choosing to not worry about that
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conflict and trying to have it both ways.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at Albert Breer. I want to ask
you about the game that Brady is calling this weekend,
the Cowboys at the Bears. In particular, Ben Johnson not
shy about calling out his own team. He called out
their practice habits yesterday to the media, What are you
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hearing from people you've talked to about what the real
concern is there? Because to me, it doesn't feel like
it's so much about Caleb Williams. It feels like Ben
Johnson's looking around going we got other issues here.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Yeah, So I think like one of the things like
Ben Johnson felt like walking in there is just my
perception from what I've gathered from people in that organizations
as he's got there, is that there was a lot
to clean up and that they and that you know,
the way he wanted to build it, it was going
to be hard to get there in that first year
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was gonna be really hard. And we talked about this.
We talked about this over the summer with Caleb specifically,
but I do think it's like apply across the organization.
So with Caleb, the whole the whole approach was, you know,
we're gonna feed him through a fire ohs. And so
it's going to look bad early in camp, and we're
going to give him the whole offense and we're gonna
see what he can handle. We're gonna flood him with
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the information. Now you can argue whether or not that's
the right way to do it, but the thought was like,
let's see what he can handle, let's put him through everything,
and then we'll figure out what he's good at, and
we'll narrow it down and we'll lean into what he's
good at as the season goes on. And I think
that that's existing now from a you know, on on
a on a on a global level with the team too,
where you look at it you say, Okay, what can
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we do to what can we do? What can we
do to to to jump start this place and get
this place turned around faster? And so it's being hard
on people and it's like like let's see who survives
and let's weed people out, and like let's see who
can who can handle the heat, and this is going
to be a tough program to be and you know,
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I think it's it's it's interesting because I don't think
it's that different than what Dan Campbell did in Detroit.
Right in the way that Dan Campbell built Detroit. It's
just a message is being delivered in a different way
by a different person. So it'll be interesting to see
the way to see you see how all of that
turns out. But there's a very i'd say, like to
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what Campbell built in Detroit, there's like a very parcelsian
I would say, way about the way the Lions were built,
And you know, I feel like, you know, you see
a lot of that and Ben Johnson the way he's
trying to build it there. Just the messengers are quite
a bit different than than than what it looked like
with Lions.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Heyew, I've got one more.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
The Giants obviously, you know when you look at where
they're at the record at O two, you kind of
the sense that there's gonna be people clamoring for Jackson
Dart to start early, start that clock on. It suited
that later that being said, Russell Wilson played phenomenal that
the exception of that interception just take me through the
patients that the organization has and not wanting to turn
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this thing over to Jackson Dart and stick with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 8 (41:09):
Yeah, so I think, like I like to me, it's
like there's there's there's a few different elements here. It's
it's Russell Wilson's ability to keep the Giants relevant in
the race. It's Jackson Dart's readiness and then you know,
and then then then I think it's a kind of
the juncture of the season that you're at. And so
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like Jackson Dart as from the beginning, checked every box
and he was more ready for the NFL than people thought.
I think the Giants thought. The Giants thought coming in
that like people understold him thinking he was a little
raw coming from Lane Kiffin's offense when Wayne was doing
some old school West Coast stuff there, and like it's
even he's even further along than they thought he would be.
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And so the decision to make him the backup I
think was very talent just in like, we are ready
to put it in the game right now, but we
need to. They put them in a game obviously last
week against Dallas, and so like they would feel comfortable
playing him now, and so like now the pressure's on
Russell Wilson to keep playing the way that he played
last week. And then you know, you have the other
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piece of it, which is like where is the team
in relation to the playoff race? And they're all in
two right now, and I don't know if you guys
have looked at their schedule, but everybody in the NFC
is this year at the NFC NORC and the AFC West,
and so things aren't going to get easier on the
Giants from here, So like what does that look like
in week seven, Week eight, week nine? And that's the
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point where you could get to where like even if
Russell Wilson's playing, well, what's right for the Giants is
for is for for for Jackson Dart to be in there.
So there are just some moving parts there, But I
do feel like it would be comfortable playing Jackson Dart
right now. And and I don't think the gap between
the two quarterbacks is very big at all.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Real quick, what about Cleveland?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
I mean, the conversation being the same, I guess in
terms of what my question would be as it applies
to to the New York Giants, what does Cleveland do?
Speaker 3 (43:16):
They have Joe Joe.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Flacco's starting, yeah, but they're not off to a great start.
What I mean, when do the conversations get louder? When
does the pressure get become more and what do you
do in this scenario?
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Well, speaking of schedules, if you look at the Brown schedule,
I mean like from here it's Packers on Sunday. I
got it up now Packers on Sunday at Lions Vikings.
That one is in London at Steelers, So like you
could be looking at owing six there, you know, and
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then it looses a little after that. You know that
you think you got the Dolphins, the Patriots and the vibe.
But if you're owing six, I think that's where you
start to say, okay, like do we need to get
a look at the younger guys. You know, I felt
this way from the start. Like I talked about the
gap being small between between Wilson and Dart and Dart
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really coming along, I don't know that it's that close
between Flacco and the rookies in Cleveland. That said, like,
you're eventually going to come to a point where you know,
it's not just about like getting your veteran players the
best chance to compete. It's going to be about evaluating
your roster based on the schedule. How quickly do the
Browns get to that point? And I'm not saying there
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season is over, but you know right now they're they're
zero and two and they're staring down the barrel of
what the very difficult schedule going forward. So you know,
I certainly think we could be in November at some
point and they're in evaluation mode, which may mean they
want to get a look at at Dylan Gabriel and
should do or standers before the end of the year,
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which could help inform what they do at quarterback in
twenty two twenty six one, when they'll have two first
round picks.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Get him on X at. Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the m m QB A B.
We appreciate it. I asked you about Ohio State, but
they're on a buy this week, so we'll get.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
That don right there, big favorite over the bye.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, there you go, Thanks Ab. Enjoyed the game.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
All right there?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Week three in the NFL does kickoff later on tonight.
We've got the Dolphins, We've got the Bills. Buffalo currently
a twelve and a half point favorite on DraftKings.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I mean, they got no faith in the fins.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Alright, So let me ask you this. If Buffalo goes
out and just annihilates Miami tonight, are we having a
discussion tomorrow morning about a coaching change or is it
still too soon.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
To do that. I feel like it's a great question.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
It is.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Can I ask this though? Was it Pete who said
this or I don't know who brought it up? But honestly,
what good does that do your organization?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
I think when we had that conversation yesterday, I thought
you brought up some valid points. What it does is
is you've now hit three set button, and you can
you can position yourself where the first, the first amazing
coach that you want to get, you're already ahead on
trying to get that coach. That's that's to me, That's
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the only thing I could sit there and say, would
be the valid reason of cutting ties with a coach
so early is that maybe you feel like there's a
coach that can enter room run the team for this
year until you stop got coach until you get to
the offseason. But make no mistake about it, you're still
going to be some way, somehow testing the waters as
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to who you could bring in as your next head coach.
And you get the first it's almost like you get
the first shot at it.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
You get to start preparing for that new coach.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
I do want to clarify I would saying that in
relation to college football. Yeah, true, where I feel like
the NFL is a bit different because they don't have
free agency to their season.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
You know, it's not as you know.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Wild of a world where all of a sudden, it
comes down to week fourteen, fifteen sixteen in the NFL
and general managers and head coaches are saying, oh, guys,
we gotta worry about the draft class. We have to
worry about free agency, like they all of a sudden
have to worry about roster construction and then guys going
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elsewhere because you know, everyone could be a free agent
after every year technically, and then on top of that,
they're going to, you know, build the roster off that
make decisions in the next you know, a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Like if you're punting on your season, though, you get
to start on all those things you just mentioned right now.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Right, but you have until March, you have until the
end of April.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
You know, you have until such a long period of
time in the NFL to make those decisions. So to me,
it's a bit of an Apple's Orages comparison, outside of
the thought of get you get a jumpstart on whoever
that next is, you get a jump start on it,
and you can start, you know, kind of prepare yourself
for that search, prepare yourself for you know, what's gonna
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happen next. But I just this early in the NFL season,
it makes no sense because all it does is show
me how adept you are as an organization that you
should have fired him in the off.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Season hundred percent. That's remember a few years back when
the Bengals fired I think it was Bill Laser, their
offensive coordinator, and they fired him after Laser, they fired
him after they fired they fired him after Week two
and it was a Thursday night game, So basically they
fired a guy ten games ten days into the season,
(03:41):
Why didn't you just fire him eleven days earlier? Like it,
It doesn't add That's the part that doesn't make sense
to me. But if it goes so poorly tonight, and
you know, one of the names that Albert Breer through
or not Albert, but Pete Prisco through out there was
you know Anthony Weaver, Like is you know he did
some interviews last year he's their defensive actually, Like, but
(04:02):
is there defense been anything to like brag about.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
No, it's not always about that. I mean I was.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I was in Denver where they fired Josh Mactango's and
they elevated Eric Studentsville. You know, Eric had zero head
coaching experience at that point, you know, and he was
just uned as a guy that they just they felt
like could unite the team.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
You know, they they'll make whatever decision they make for.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
You know, press or pr it's just you know, it's
honestly doesn't really matter that much. But they'll you know,
say that they'll annoyed someone who they feel like they
were feel confident in getting them through the season. It's
basically like this, It's basically like you beat on a
plane and they're like, uh, the pilot passed out. We
(04:51):
we got a land Now basically all you have to
do is put this thing on an idle pilot. But
we do need someone to come up and be responsible
forgetting thing to the runway.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
All right, anybody want to sit in there is anyone
willing to volunteer, And so here's what happens. You get
leave a lap in road who's got a bunch of
mini bottles like, oh, yeah, I'll do it, and they're like, no,
we don't.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
We don't know, so we don't want you, you know.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
They get some other people, like there's like a ten
year old kid who's like, I'll do it, and they're like, no,
you're not old enough.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's probably the one be able to do it. Actually,
well they see.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
LeVar, who's reasonable, who looks responsible, who's a signal of strength,
and he goes, I'll do it, and they're like, yes,
that's our band. You don't have to do much. Just
sit in the seat and make everyone feel confident. We're
gonna lay this play ut. That's essentially what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'll do this.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I'm all right, everybody calm down, and he'll say I'm
really gonna do this. I ain't gonna let y'all see
me sweat, though, like you to do it. And the
first time he's flowing a plane. Hey do we happen
to have manual available? Okay, thank you? Let me see
this all right? Okay, we have some uh we have
some internet?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Great?
Speaker 6 (06:06):
All right, let me Grock this all right, here's the
design of this this aircraft. All right, just give me
a crash course on how I can land this baby.
And this is my first time ever flying an airplane.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm going to use a different term than crash course
though with people on a plane.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
We have a problem.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I don't think I would say crash course out loud.
I just in my mind I think that that's what
I'd be running at that moment.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Imagine barbiing like I got it. I just looked at Grock.
I can land this bad boy. We'll be fine. I mean, hey,
I'm probably.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I talked to Evan Williams. Evan Williams told me this
is how you land a plane.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I saw the process. I've seen the process though I
have sat in the cockpit when landing a big one too.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Bat.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm sure you did you see that?
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Did you see the video of the cops that pulled
the guy off the Southwest flight. The the guy who
was flying, the pilot was flying the plane there, they
pulled him off the flight.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
They interviewed him.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And they're asked him like, hey, you know, some people
have smelled alcohol on you. You seem a little intoxicated.
He was like, did you drink last night? I had
a few beers? Like what a how long ago? At
least ten hours? He started going through full blown hammered
what was on the plane ready to fly?
Speaker 6 (07:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
It's a little bit a little bit more alarming is
apparently there's a Spirit flight that was like headed directly
towards Air Force.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh yeah, yeah. Were they not paying attention or somebody.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Like, I don't know, the guy's yelled up to get
off his iPad. What was interesting about is, so, what
are my buddies that I had this debate between Southwestern
Spirit and I have a staunch defender of Spirit.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Now this has everything to do with the fact that
I have no.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Expectations when it comes to Spirit airlines, Like, my expectations
are so low that it's kind of hard to like,
you know, make it a miserable trip. Because I'm already
expecting it to be miserable, but they actually, like they
have big, big seats in the front. Their Wi Fi
is actually fast. When they have Wi Fi, it's it's
one of the faster Wi fis out there. They don't
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have that bad of an option for food. Granted you
have to pay for it, but it is what it is.
And honestly, they actually are a discount airline. You're gonna
get a cheap flight. So I always say to them,
like every time I fly Spirit, I'm like pleasantly surprised.
Maybe it's just because I'm not expecting to actually survive
and I do, so I'm like, ah, got away with
another one. But with like Southwest, that airline. I don't
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know why, but I'm just I'm always disappointed. It's like
the exact opposite. I'm not sure if it's the boarding process,
the fact that they have really no options for food.
Their internet stinks, it's outdated. I'm not sure They're plays
are outdated. Like I'm not sure which it is, but
but for some reason, I'm a staunch defender of Spirit Airlines.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Don't judge me for that.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Is it that they dress themselves up as a legitimate
airline and then you get on there and go, this
is low budget, like this is discount when they land
when they when they land, a like Southwest lands the
plane and it's like sometimes I think path of it's
going to fall off? It just like yeah, I mean
it moves.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
My understanding is Southwest bought older planes, but they have
more experienced pilots. And then the contras is Spirit, who
bought newer planes have less experienced pilots.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
So so pick your poison. But I guess my.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Thought is I'm not trying to you want it, you
want to do or played, because as much as you
want an experienced pilot, if the wings falling off wasn't matter,
you know.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah, it's a I don't know man. That that's an
apples the oranges compare. If you can't flag at dang plane,
I don't give a dang about a wing. And the
bottom line is you don't know if the wing's gonna
fall off or if the man can fly or a woman.
To that point, well, most of it's on autopilot. Now,
is the old ass playing. I don't know if it's
(10:11):
on autopilote, I don't know anything. You don't know anything.
That's the craziest thing is you really walk on to
a tube where you know nothing other than I'm sitting here.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Just put all your faith in them and somebody you
don't even know. If I don't know your first name,
I don't know anything.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Thank you for that thought. Yeah, I really feel comforted. Now,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's great, It is great.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
It is crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And then to think that some slappy could be sitting
there and all he's got to do is not have
had a drink in the last eleven hours.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He could have been a happy hour yesterday. But as
long as you didn't have anything since then you'll be
fine to get to where you need to go, is uh?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
I mean the fact that we haven't heard that is
a part of a live show that isn't here.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It just shows you what the capabilities of people are.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Should we try to implement an airline policy similar to
to what this is? Like Lee can't have a drink
for ten hours?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know? Good luck?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
You know what we should do? We should call Lee
every hour on live on air.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, it works, that works.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I think we should call him.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
In fact, that sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
We should call him right now? You think so yeah,
we should call him right now, and do you want
to do it?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
No, you guys do this? Well, why don't we go
to break? We'll come back and do it.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Okay, let's go to break.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Let's go to break and let's call him right out
or to break and see if we could get an answer.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Those are wonder if he answers. That is not our
tire ract play of the day all I just want
to be clear on that.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We will.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
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Speaker 5 (12:29):
Jonas, can you enlighten us on what's happening with the
Jake Paul Javonte Davis Take David because you think it
moved to Miami?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeick, So it was supposed to be in Georgia and
then the fight got.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Moved to Why it was gonna be in Georgia versus
Miami or Vegas or.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, I don't know exactly why there. I think that
the report coming out is that the Georgia Entertainment and
Athletic Commission said that, well, they didn't have clearance to
promote the fight the way that they were, and then
Jake Paul and his people said, no tickets were sold, No,
(13:06):
nothing happens, We'll just move it to Miami. I just
I'll be honest with you. After seeing Terence Crawford Canelo Alvarez,
I don't really have a lot of time for an
exhibition bout between two guys and one's got a sixty
pound weight advantage. And I don't know if part of
the reason why they didn't have full clearance from the
Athletic Commission was because of the weight discrepancy. But that
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does happen if they're not if they're not going to
sanction it, then they'll find some other place it would
I would ask you this though, from a fighter standpoint,
wouldn't you rather have it in Miami for tax purposes? Like,
if you're going to be working there, wouldn't you rather
do it there? So it feels like everybody.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I have no idea how they are taxed by assumptions
though that, yeah, you'd rather have it.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
A place, no city.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
For Davonte to do something like this says, I mean,
I don't know, man, that's it's a horrible move for
his his career.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Horrible. Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I don't think people judge them, but I think I
think they get paid and they you know.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
He's still an active fighter, and he's and he's a
very well respected fighter. He just had a tough one,
I mean, and he probably should have lost, but it
was a split. But he's still nonetheless like he's still
wanted the more exciting fighters that are out there. I
just think it turns it into somewhat of a clown show.
(14:36):
I think like part of the discussion about it is
that there might have been an offer on the table, like, hey,
here's the offer, take it.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Now or it's gone. It's a ton of money, And
he said, all right, well, I'll take the money now
and I'll get back to.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
My it's a ton of money.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
It's gotta be a f load of money, man, just
just a ton of money for him to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's it's an exhibition. I'm just not doesn't do it
for me? Sorry, what is he?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I mean, he gains a lot of money off of
doing it, But what else do you gain by fighting
Jake Paul?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Like what I mean, you're opening yourself up to an
audience that you know, unless you're boxing fans. I don't
know how many people know Tank Davis, right, Like if
you're a streamer or a YouTuber, whatever you'd say, Jake
Paul's audience is this is opening you up to a
new world of I guess fandom or people who might
(15:32):
follow you.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Is that he's still he's still undefeated, and he's still
one of the top guys out there. I just think
this is this is it's a bad decision. It's a
bad look like if and I don't I'm not even
a boxing purist, but I am a fight fan. If
you're at the end of your career, if you're done
(15:54):
with your career, like what Mike Tyson and them are doing,
like you want to put on a wh Yeah, you
want to put on a show, put on a show,
but he's he's still like legit in his career, prime
of his career.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Like this makes no sense.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
It makes no sense, not even for the I want
to gain exposure from from a different It doesn't make sense.
And it also I don't it's not a knock on
Jake Paul because I think what he's done with Logan
Paul have done has been fantastic. And I think Jake
Paul's gotten better and better. And he's a legit good boxer,
like he's got good skills, but.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
It's always it's never quite a legit and I don't
want to say legit, but it's never quite a fight
that you look at and go, oh, yeah, I couldn
because everything's got to catch to it. Well, it's a
retired MMA fighter, or it's it's uh, this guy who's
never boxed professionally before, or it's Mike Tyson and he's
(16:50):
sixty years.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Well Davis Javante at his size could probably knock Paul out.
He he hits hard enough where he could, and he's
quick enough, and he's crafty enough, and he's in his
prime where he could knock Paul out. He could actually
knock him out. The point is is, though, they're not
(17:10):
going to allow that to happen. No, you clearly saw
Mike Tyson with his old ass was pulling punches. Damn,
it was pulling punches. Yeah, hey man, that bag is
a bag. And I'm saying you go out there, we're
gonna spar I'm gonna make it through the you know,
through the fight.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I saw his bag.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Damn, that's true.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
I just I think I don't think it's I think
it's it's so I don't think it's a good move
for Javonta.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Let me let me ask you has this counter programming?
All Right, you've got that fight, it's supposed to be
on November sixteenth, that same night, you've got Clemson at
Louisville College football, You've got min Minnesota at Oregon.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You know where I'll be.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's what I'm saying, like, Yeah, this's just I feel
like there's gonna be other options at that time that uh,
you know, unless maybe you'll take a peek at it.
But and it's on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
I believe the thing about it is Jake Paul's turned
himself into the new Floyd Mayweather. And and no not
because he can box and he has the type of
talent and skill that that Floyd had. It's that he's
created a persona that makes people hate him. You either
love him or you hate him. And then when you
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look at it from the standpoint of, well, why would
you watch the fight this is now? You watch the
fight with Mike Tyson before going into it and seeing
what happened. You watched it with the idea that even
at Mike's age, he probably could knock Jake Paul out right, So.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
That's what that's what people are hoping.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
You're hoping that he gets knocked out and and and
Gravante that it's probably the only this is the first
fight that I would say, even though he's smaller, this
is the first fighter that that I would say could
really knock him out. That and and by him doing that,
getting a guy that is into his prime that that
does have some like out of the ring issues taking place.
(19:05):
That may be the reason why he's taking this fight.
I don't know. He might be suspended, not even able
to fight, you know, a sanctioned fight. He still boxes
outside of the ring apparently, And so look him up.
I mean, you're fair hearing them little fingers. He's got
to look that thing up. Yeah, he doesn't stop. He
(19:29):
doesn't stop the jabs.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
He's had some stuff in public at other fights while
he's in the crowd where like he's getting rough.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, you know, you know, he's he's tanked. He's a
little tank, but little tank tank. But this is the
first one I'd say that people are going to watch
to see, is this the one where he gets knocked out?
That's that's that's the reason why these fights work. But
that Mike Tyson one just it ruined it. If you're
(20:00):
if you want to watch it for entertainment, watch it
for entertainment. If you're watching it for anything other than that,
you're dumb.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
They were trying to line up and they were down
the road in negotiations for a Jake Paul Cannelo Alvarez fight.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Which is stupid. Well that's super super stupid.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
That's what led to the Bud Crawford fight, because then
all of it and Basically what ended up happening is
Canelo used it as leverage and Turk al Chic, who
runs ri odd season, who's putting all these massive fights
on in Saudi Arabia. He basically just came to Canelo
and said, all right, well, how about this, I'll give
you a three fight deal for you know whatever, hundreds
(20:39):
of millions of dollars, and Canelo Avaree is like, yeah,
we're good here because Canelo looks at it, like what
you just said, Labar, I could I could take that
Jake Paul fight after my career is over.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
When I'm done, Yeah, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, all he wants me to take it.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You want me to take a fall, take a loss
in the exhibition, Like, I'll do what I'm done. I'm
not going to do that while I'm in the middle
of my career and I'm still trying to like get
get big paydays. I mean, Javonte generates a ton of
money for for pay per views. I mean he's one
of those guys. He is a generator. So and now
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it's shifted. It's shifting like now Bud is taken taking
that that title, He's going to be the one that
is now able to generate big, big time money for
super Fight, you know, whether they pay for it to
be streamed or whether they put it in pay per
view per se. It's Bud Crawford. But I'm telling you
the one that's out there that nobody is really talking about,
(21:35):
that that he is a killers ben a Videz. Dude
is a bro and he's got the whole swag from him. Y'all,
y'all want to talk about the onesie in Cincinnati. Check
check out his situation. Check out check out what he
got going on. Benevetas ain't playing around, bro, not in
(21:56):
the ring or out of it. He he he embodies
what being a champ represents is what I'll say. And
I can guarantee you he wouldn't be fighting. I guarantee
you Jake Paul went and try to fight Benevetez. Throw
his name out there, do it? Do exhibition with him?
(22:20):
Oh yeah, on a millipede. Yea a millipede that makes
all the sense of the world.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
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Speaker 2 (22:37):
All right, so we have a traditions to a pold
here on this show. One of those involves this man,
the great Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the mm QB. He's also the voice of Buckeye Nation.
He's the reason they are the defending national champions and
number one in the country. The one and only our
(23:00):
Breer with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
A B.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Good morning, feeling.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
I don't know how people have ever feel about me
being the voice of buck Eye Nation, but I'll take it.
I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Do you have any concerns about just the offense? I mean,
it's they got those slow star wars Ohio University. I
know how how he was one of the better MAC teams.
But any thoughts on the offense?
Speaker 8 (23:22):
Yeah, no, I think I said last week, didn't I
didn't that take all you to cover last week? I
think that's right, right, Johns, You the one who keeps
track of it.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, I believe he did.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
Yes, I did. I took him to cover last week,
so I guess I guess. I guess I was ahead
of that one. Yeah, I mean, I think the red
zone offense has been an issue off and on the
last few years, so I've got a little concern there.
But you know, maybe you get that freshman running back
a little bit more run and we'll be okay. So
I feel okay, Yeah, I mean, he looks like he
(23:53):
can really play. I guess he was hurt as a
senior in high school and so maybe one rated and
I think he was still like top hundred in the
country or something like that, but like maybe it wasn't
rated the way he should have been. But he looks awesome,
so so yeah, no, I have I have mild concerns
about the red zone offense, but that's just sort of
(24:14):
like PTSD lingering stuff from the last few years.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Maybe I'm curious because we were kicking this around earlier.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
I know that's how you guys are bringing me in
to break down the Buckeyes, right.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah, thanks for joining us out for That'll be it.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I actually dowed out too much.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But I'm just I'm curious because we were kind of
kicking this around earlier, the potential of this happening, even
though it's two and a half weeks into the season.
Because it's a Thursday, night game. If things go really
bad for Miami tonight, what are the chances we could
be talking about a coaching change already at some point
this weekend in Miami.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
I mean, are we talking about it or is it happening?
Because if it goes bad, and I think we're all
going to be talking about it, Whether or not it
happens is probably another story.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
I look like I think there's a there's a few
things that works here. Number one, like they're like, over
the course of the off season, there's a lot of
noise about like what was a messy situation internally there,
And you know, really, I think a huge part of
it comes down to the way star players were treated
the last few years. There were players in att locker room.
(25:26):
It felt like there was a double standard. So they
tried to make some changes to kind of get the
culture back this off season. One of them was trading
away Jalen Ramsey. Then I think on top of that,
they're they're going through a natural reset, slash rebuild, whatever
you want to call it. And you know, like so
toront Arms has gone, now, Ramsey's gone now, you know,
(25:48):
and I think they sort of felt like and I
think they're right about this that they kind of maxed
out with that group that they brought in, that they
built aggressively while two was still in his rookie contract.
So they're going to be going through a little bit
of a retooling over the next year or two anyway,
And generally when you're in that spot, you know, an
owner is going to ask big picture questions like do
(26:10):
I have the right people in charge right now? And
so you know, you add that those two things to
the fact that they're own to now. The first game
was a complete no show. The second game wasn't a
no show. I think the effort was better in the
second game, but there were still a lot of like
operational issues. And so now you've got like this Thursday
night game, which I mean, we've seen the way these
(26:31):
things go, like the way the volume gets turned up
and standalone games and the way people sort of talk
about things differently because it's the only show, it's the
only game on And yeah, I mean, I think if
if Buffalo comes out and it's you know, which could happen,
If it Bubble comes out and it's twenty four to
nothing in the middle of the second quarter, then every
(26:52):
single one of us is going to be talking about
how much longer does this last? With Mike McDaniel. I
don't know whether or not Steven Rock has the appetite
to pull the plug early. I think if he did,
it would probably relate to wanting to get a look
at Anthony Weaver as a potential head coach and get
him an audition. I still think it's early for that,
but you know, I certainly think some of the conversation
(27:15):
around it. I think Mike's a really good coach, but
I think some of the conversation around it is certainly
is certainly you know, something that's warranted, and because I
do think it's something that's going to be happening internally,
over the course of the year, things will turn around.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Albert, we kind of talked about this earlier in the week,
like what good does this really do for the Dolphins?
I mean, even though you could say, oh, it gives
you a jump on the head coaching search somewhat, we
know other organizations that are back channeling where they've got
a guy in place that they know they're going to fire,
So like, why why now?
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Like this just takes the entire season.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Yeah, I always ask that question too, Brady, And I
think I think it's the right question to ask, like
because you know, it's like last year with the Jets, right,
like Robert Sala hadn't lost that team like that. That
situation was the owner wanting his time to flesh, the
owner being on social media and taking too much attention
to what was being said in the tabloids, and you know,
(28:15):
the owner Like like, I think in a lot of cases,
it can be to playcate of fan base. It can
be to it can be it can be in an
overreaction to you know, public sentiment, you know, and I
and I and I don't know. I wouldn't say that
that that that Stephen Ross is overly prone to that
sort of thing, although he has, you know, gone through
(28:36):
a mid season firing before, so I think it would
have to be. To me, it has to be one
of two things. It's either Mike McDaniel has lost the
team to the point where it's becoming a poisonous environment
for the rest of the players, and you don't want
your younger players developing in that environment the rest of
the year. I don't think that's necessarily the case now,
(28:57):
I don't think do I think every single player in
that locker room and walked in on every word. Mike
NC Daniel says, no, Do I think the the environment
has gotten to the point where it's poisonous. I don't
think it's there yet. The second reason to do it
would be you think so much of someone on your
staff that you want to get that get a real
look at them as a potential head coach. And they
(29:20):
love Anthony Weaver, you know, like I. You know, I
I think the locker room, the defensive players really like
Anthony Weaver. So like, I do think I could get
to that point. But do I think that you need
to see like fourteen games of him and risk a
lot of other things going wrong? Probably not like you
Probably you know, get a shorter sample size on that.
(29:42):
So those would be the two reasons to do it.
I think those two reasons can be valid to do
it this early. But you know, I just again, like,
I don't think we're at that point on either front
with the Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
But yet I'm gonna shift gears from this game and
ask you about what's going on with Tom Brady. It
would be and just all the murmuring and discussion points,
does this does this bubble up into something big enough
where there actually has to be a real conversation one
way or the other. I would assume there's no going
back once you're approved as as someone that's the owner.
(30:17):
But that does that make it a more intense conversation
for his employment with Fox?
Speaker 8 (30:23):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's an interesting conversation
because I do think it touches on some things that
people aren't really talking about right now, the strategic stuff.
I don't know. Man, Like I think that like you
have to be careful, is that if you're one of
these games, right, Like, so obviously in the Raiders play
the Commanders this week, Brady had the Commanders two weeks ago.
Brady has the Bears this week. The Raiders have the
(30:46):
Bears next week. So there are those things where you
have to be careful and you have to be smart.
I think if you're a coach or a player on
one of those teams, and I and I certainly think
it's fair to be concerned about like you put a
younger players in one of these productions meetings and like
he idolizes Brady, right, so he gets comfortable talking to
Brady and does he lets some things slip because like
(31:07):
it's important for him personally to have a relationship with Brady, Like,
teams are going to have to be careful about those things,
no doubt, Like I think that that's a fair thing
to worry about. I actually don't think like the game
strategy thing is the big deal though for me. I
think what like owners would be more concerned about as
far as just from a competitive advantage standpoint is the
(31:27):
ability to access players and coaches on other teams in
a way that would be tampering for the other thirty one. Right,
In other words, like is Tom Brady able to kind
of like get a character assessment on players from being
around them through his broadcast job. That's going to help
inform the Raiders' decisions on free agency and trades going forward. Right,
(31:50):
So he has a chance to say, they have the
Chiefs three times and I don't know, pick a free
agent for the Chiefs, the guy from the Chiefs who's
going to be a free agent next year. Right, Well, now, Brady,
he actually has had the opportunity to sit down and
be around those guys and talk to other people in
the organization about that guy three different times, and now
he has all this background on a guy who might
(32:11):
be signed fifteen minutes after free agency starts. So none
of the other teams are going to have the opportunity
to do that sort of thing. Same thing. I'm the
coaching front right, Like, so, like, let's say the Raiders
aren't happy with one of their coordinators. Now Brady got
to meet you know, let's say it's defensive coordinator. Brady
got to meet five or six linebackers coaches over the
course of the season through his Fox job, and he
(32:32):
was standing on the field and got to meet them
that way, or he got to meet them in a
production meeting. And now but he's able to hit the
ground running and be aggressive and going and getting the
guy he wants while other teams are still going through
the process of getting to know all these guys, you know,
early in the offseason. There are those sorts of things
that I think are very real competitive advantages for the
(32:53):
Raiders from a team building standpoint. And I think that's
the stuff that people aren't paying attention to, right I
think it's the coaching players. Yeah, goh, Brady, No, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Gonna say it, but like, come on, these coaches, no
other linebackers, coaches, they have networks.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I mean, this is the league that.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Albert I'm just saying, like honestly, like it's it's no
different And we said this earlier, like the science stealing
thing with Connor Stallion's like everyone makes a big deal
about it and reality, what was the actual impact that
had on games? Probably not as much, especially considering everyone
knew about it. Everyone was changing their signals, everyone was
actually helping other teams that went against Michigan prepare by
(33:33):
giving them their signals.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Like the whole entire thing to me was a little
bit overblown in this sense.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
It's like okay, but like everyone knows everyone in the league,
and like are there new linebackers coaches.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
That they're unaware of?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Like, well, tampering rules are effect because you don't want
to try to obviously have a guy who's currently hired
somewhere else be talking to another team elsewhere. Like that's
why tampering exists, Like it's it's in a moral in
that sense. It's not because they're worried about the relationship.
I mean, like, do you think Tom Brady right now
(34:08):
is free time? I mean, given that he's probably the
most eligiber bachelor that is out there is more focused
on who that next hot linebacker coaches.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
That they're gonna havent No, but I think, but I
think anybody who's been around Tom knows how ultra competitive
he is and knows that, like and look like this
is Tom's personality, like I and I'm not saying he's.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Doing I'm not even saying this is I trust he
doesn't want to Alcrez Skinner situation to happen, you.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Know, off the field.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
I mean, like, so he's got the Bears and Cowboys
this week. Let's just say, you know again, like he's
in a he's in a production meeting with carry von
Diggs and tryvon Diggs gets cut after the year. Well
like and and the Fox crew is probably going like
that crew is probably gonna have the Cowboys five times
this year. Right, So now Brady has like such like
it has has had intimate knowledge of someone else, of
(34:59):
the guy somebody else is you know, cutting, and the
Raiders have a hole at corner. So now all of
a sudden, the Raiders can hit the ground running because
they know the guy is. The background work is done
and they can aggressively move and value.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Okay, but then then why allow to do both in
the first case, Like this goes back.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
To the initial side.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Now here's why. That's the interesting part about it, right,
Like to me, like, that's that is why, Like, and
I don't want to make this just about Fox. I
know we're on a Fox platform here, but like I like,
I think it's like ESPN paying Joe Buck and Troyman
eighteen million dollars year piece.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Right.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
The reason why ESPN did that, and both those guys
are phenomenal at what they do, so this is like
a credit to them, right. But the reason the SPN
does that is because ESPN wanted to get into the
into the Super Bowl rotation and the NFL it basically
signaled the ESPN, your broadcast on Monday night right now
does not feel big enough. It does not is not
(35:54):
it does not elevate the game enough for us to
give you a super Bowl. Really, And that was it. Yeah,
So they go and they go and they bring in
Joe and Troy because they want they because ESPN wanted
into the super Bowl rotation. And after they get Joe
and Troy, what happens. They're into the super Bowl rotation.
The reason I'm telling that story is because the NFL
(36:14):
their concern is, I'm making every game seem as much,
seems seem like as much of an event as they
possibly can, to build it up as much as they
possibly can, and having Tom Brady on the broadcast helps
them build up like the games that Tom Brady's on like,
it helps build up those games. And so it's in
(36:35):
the NFL office's best interest to have the highest profile
guy possible who can make the game feel the biggest
in the boost. Right, it's like the John Madden effect. Right,
like every game when you were a kid, every game
that John Madden and Pat Summer I'll call when we
were kids felt like a massive game. Right, that's the premise.
And so like the feeling is the bigger the name
(36:57):
we have in the booths, the bigger the game field.
And so the NFL is going to bend over backwards.
Is the NFL league off. It's not the owner, it's
not the thirty two, But then the NFL league off,
league off. It's well, yeah, we're going to bend over
backwards because we want the games to feel as big
as possible. Brady will help us do that, which ultimately
will help make the broadcast package is as valuable as
(37:17):
possible and help us make the most money. So, like,
I think that that's why Brady is like that they
wanted this is like typical. The NFL wants this cake,
wants to have its cake and eat it too, Right.
Having Brady with the Raiders was great for the Raiders
because it helped bring in all these big money guys
who change the face of the franchise. You're Michael Meldchan's
your EGANDURB and Tom Whicker's business partner. So that helps
(37:39):
the Raiders that help survive an iconic brand. And then
Tom Brady is the broadcast or helped to build up
the actual games themselves. And so it's a unique situation
because of who Tom Brady is. And you know, I
think this again is like is there a confidence here? Yeah,
but the NFL is choosing to not worry about that
(38:01):
conflict and trying to have it both ways.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at Albert Breer. I want to ask
you about the game that Brady is calling this weekend,
the Cowboys at the Bears. In particular, Ben Johnson not
shy about calling out his own team. He called out
their practice habits yesterday to the media, What are you
(38:24):
hearing from people you've talked to about what the real
concern is there? Because to me, it doesn't feel like
it's so much about Caleb Williams. It feels like Ben
Johnson's looking around going we got other issues here.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Yeah, So I think like one of the things like
Ben Johnson felt like walking in there is just my
perception from what I've gathered from people in that organizations
as he's got there, is that there was a lot
to clean up and that they and that you know,
the way he wanted to build it, it was going
to be hard to get there in that first year
(38:58):
was gonna be really hard. And we talked about this.
We talked about this over the summer with Caleb specifically,
but I do think it's like apply across the organization.
So with Caleb, the whole the whole approach was, you know,
we're gonna feed him through a fire ohs. And so
it's going to look bad early in camp, and we're
going to give him the whole offense and we're gonna
see what he can handle. We're gonna flood him with
(39:19):
the information. Now you can argue whether or not that's
the right way to do it, but the thought was like,
let's see what he can handle, let's put him through everything,
and then we'll figure out what he's good at, and
we'll narrow it down and we'll lean into what he's
good at as the season goes on. And I think
that that's existing now from a you know, on on
a on a on a global level with the team too,
where you look at it you say, Okay, what can
(39:41):
we do to what can we do? What can we
do to to to jump start this place and get
this place turned around faster? And so it's being hard
on people and it's like like let's see who survives
and let's weed people out, and like let's see who
can who can handle the heat, and this is going
to be a tough program to be and you know,
(40:02):
I think it's it's it's interesting because I don't think
it's that different than what Dan Campbell did in Detroit.
Right in the way that Dan Campbell built Detroit. It's
just a message is being delivered in a different way
by a different person. So it'll be interesting to see
the way to see you see how all of that
turns out. But there's a very i'd say, like to
(40:22):
what Campbell built in Detroit, there's like a very parcelsian
I would say, way about the way the Lions were built,
And you know, I feel like, you know, you see
a lot of that and Ben Johnson the way he's
trying to build it there. Just the messengers are quite
a bit different than than than what it looked like
with Lions.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Heyew, I've got one more.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
The Giants obviously, you know when you look at where
they're at the record at O two, you kind of
the sense that there's gonna be people clamoring for Jackson
Dart to start early, start that clock on. It suited
that later that being said, Russell Wilson played phenomenal that
the exception of that interception just take me through the
patients that the organization has and not wanting to turn
(41:04):
this thing over to Jackson Dart and stick with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 8 (41:09):
Yeah, so I think, like I like to me, it's
like there's there's there's a few different elements here. It's
it's Russell Wilson's ability to keep the Giants relevant in
the race. It's Jackson Dart's readiness and then you know,
and then then then I think it's a kind of
the juncture of the season that you're at. And so
(41:31):
like Jackson Dart as from the beginning, checked every box
and he was more ready for the NFL than people thought.
I think the Giants thought. The Giants thought coming in
that like people understold him thinking he was a little
raw coming from Lane Kiffin's offense when Wayne was doing
some old school West Coast stuff there, and like it's
even he's even further along than they thought he would be.
(41:53):
And so the decision to make him the backup I
think was very talent just in like, we are ready
to put it in the game right now, but we
need to. They put them in a game obviously last
week against Dallas, and so like they would feel comfortable
playing him now, and so like now the pressure's on
Russell Wilson to keep playing the way that he played
last week. And then you know, you have the other
(42:15):
piece of it, which is like where is the team
in relation to the playoff race? And they're all in
two right now, and I don't know if you guys
have looked at their schedule, but everybody in the NFC
is this year at the NFC NORC and the AFC West,
and so things aren't going to get easier on the
Giants from here, So like what does that look like
in week seven, Week eight, week nine? And that's the
(42:37):
point where you could get to where like even if
Russell Wilson's playing, well, what's right for the Giants is
for is for for for Jackson Dart to be in there.
So there are just some moving parts there, But I
do feel like it would be comfortable playing Jackson Dart
right now. And and I don't think the gap between
the two quarterbacks is very big at all.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Real quick, what about Cleveland?
Speaker 6 (43:03):
I mean, the conversation being the same, I guess in
terms of what my question would be as it applies
to to the New York Giants, what does Cleveland do?
Speaker 3 (43:16):
They have Joe Joe.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Flacco's starting, yeah, but they're not off to a great start.
What I mean, when do the conversations get louder? When
does the pressure get become more and what do you
do in this scenario?
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Well, speaking of schedules, if you look at the Brown schedule,
I mean like from here it's Packers on Sunday. I
got it up now Packers on Sunday at Lions Vikings.
That one is in London at Steelers, So like you
could be looking at owing six there, you know, and
(43:52):
then it looses a little after that. You know that
you think you got the Dolphins, the Patriots and the vibe.
But if you're owing six, I think that's where you
start to say, okay, like do we need to get
a look at the younger guys. You know, I felt
this way from the start. Like I talked about the
gap being small between between Wilson and Dart and Dart
(44:15):
really coming along, I don't know that it's that close
between Flacco and the rookies in Cleveland. That said, like,
you're eventually going to come to a point where you know,
it's not just about like getting your veteran players the
best chance to compete. It's going to be about evaluating
your roster based on the schedule. How quickly do the
Browns get to that point? And I'm not saying there
(44:36):
season is over, but you know right now they're they're
zero and two and they're staring down the barrel of
what the very difficult schedule going forward. So you know,
I certainly think we could be in November at some
point and they're in evaluation mode, which may mean they
want to get a look at at Dylan Gabriel and
should do or standers before the end of the year,
(44:57):
which could help inform what they do at quarterback in
twenty two twenty six one, when they'll have two first
round picks.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Get him on X at. Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the m m QB A B.
We appreciate it. I asked you about Ohio State, but
they're on a buy this week, so we'll get.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
That don right there, big favorite over the bye.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, there you go, Thanks Ab. Enjoyed the game.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
All right there?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
He is the great Albert Brier with us here on
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