September 22, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:33):
Go over this week.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
It feels like that was wild, Like have we ever
seen a weekend like that ever in NFL history?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
There we go? Now here we go? Go ahead, up right,
cue if you want me to.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I think I need I need a little something first though,
Can you guys provide me maybe some game show music?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Come on, come on right now, give him some good
let him jump right into he's been waiting for this. Yeah,
let's do this. Yes, I had all right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's now time for what is a better chance a
blocked field goal being returned for a touchdown and not
only winning the game, but flipping the bet or pretty
much anything else in life. Are two contestants are LeVar
Arrington on one side the college Football.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Hall of Fame and on the other side, Jonas Knocks.
He's the King of the Ring, the Lord of the Sword.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh wow, I'm really sure.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
There's Jonahs Knock on the other side.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like, I'll take I'll take that, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So here are the Rules of the Games, which has
a better chance of happening the exact scenario that played
out in the Los Angeles Rams Philadelphia Eagles game where
the Rams are down one, they're kicking a field goal
to not only win, and even if they missed, by
the way, they would have covered that spread. But instead
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it gets blocked by Jordan Davis and returned by Jordan Davis,
which I couldn't even factor into, like that size of
human being running eighteen miles an hour. As part of this, however,
I'll tell you at the end of it what the
percentage chances are. But I'll start off with you, LeVar,
what do you have a better chance of getting injured
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playing recreational sports in just one year's time or that
exact scenario playing.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Out I'm gonna go with the injury in one year's
time recreationally, that is correct, of course.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Who actually have just a little over a one percent chance?
Do you know that it's a lot less than you think.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
All right, let's go over now to Jonah Downs, the
Lord of the Sword.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Do you have a better chance of being struck by
lightning or that exact scenario playing out in yesterday's game.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh, that scenario in yesterday's game.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
That's wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It is just just a little bit more likely, just
a little bit more likely that scenario.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, all right, but nobody never follow your betting.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Hold on, hold on the room, hold on. We're talking
about a lightning strike.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yes, we're talking about by the way, in a year,
not even a lifetime. A year.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It's like, you know, the probability is not high on that.
So it's a little disturbing that that. That's how this
this bet went. Next up, college Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
What family you're in.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Do you have a better chance.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Of being killed in the plane crash or yesterday scenario
playing out?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You know what I'm going to go with plane crash.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
That is wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
It's just just statistically less of a chance of dying
a plane crash than what we saw yesterday between the
Rams and the.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Eaglesang, well, that's good.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Not for all right? How about that this.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Week, Jonas, you are now up expiring a car accident
in a year's time or yesterday's event.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Oh, car accident, not by much, by the way, that's correct.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Only have about double a better chance of dying or
not dying getting into a car accident in a year's time.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Excuse me, I got a little dark there.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Okay, Next up, getting food poisoning, LeVar or yesterday's event.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh, food poisoning easily?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
That is correct. You have a five percent chance, by
the way, of getting food poisoning.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I didn't think that was that high.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I mean I've had food poison One more piece
healthy people cooking food these days.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
One more piece, having twins or what happened yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I made twins, so I'm not I would never get
this one correct.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, I'll go with the twins.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
That's correct. Having twins you have a little bit better
statistical chance. And finally, LeVar, you can finish this one
off what happened yesterday or a Gamba ray burst causing
extinction level event on Earth.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Tang Uh, I'm gonna go with what happened yesterday.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
That is correct.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
People going to finish that is so you actually had
a point less than a point zero five percent chance
of what occurred in that game happening. And mind you,
we had it in like multiple games where there was
block field goals that were turning in to touch on
just not to finish the game, like we saw between.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Ellie and Philly.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, it was bananas, man, I don't and and the
uh because you're probably you're watching the game. You got
the Rams plus three and a hook, and you're watching
the game and they're in total control, and you're thinking,
all right, well, this is this is their get back
for the playoff game. They were really competitive, good matchup,
like they had their number, and then it just started
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to fall apart. And then it started to dwindle and
the lead started to shrink, and you're like, all right,
but hey, at least at least they've got an opportunity here,
and if nothing crazy happens, you're still going to get it,
because you get your plus three and a half. And
then this locomotive picks up a ball and runs it
eighteen miles the hour he blocked it first, eighteen miles
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an hour.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That Grizzly Bear blocked that bad boy first.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm telling you right now, if I if I had
money on the Rams in that game, and I was
listening to it while I was at the sun with
my I was at the park with my son on
the swings, I would just leave him on their would
I would? I would leave him on the swings. I
would leave him on the swings and never come back.
I swear to god, you figured it out on your own.
I'm out of here.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I figure out to handle that.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Because on a bet like that, we're talking lightning strike,
probability that that that is something like that happens. I'm
leaving him there. You figure it out. I got bigger issues.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Like three or four block field golds yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Five and the first in the opening window.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah right, and one and two were returned for two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Although the Bucks Jets one they went all excited.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I mean that didn't age well. The excitement dance did
not age well. Baker was slanging that thing. Then on
that last drive, how good is a.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Mecca Buka by the way for a rookie to come
in do? He's like, as smooth as it gets smooth.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I think that was a Prisco pick, Like he was
talking about a Mecca Buka.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I thought it was a catch.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Well, I mean, come on, dude, Prisco picks like the East.
He said, Oh, you know, I think Joe Burl's gonna
be really good. He's gonna win to multiple super Bowls,
Like well, yeah, he was the number one overall. Joe
Burl obviously.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Really good, must be really good, and the Vikings must
just do really well with like journeyman quarterbacks like JJ,
Like take your time again. Your injury has has given way. Yeah,
it's given way to a vet having the opportunity to
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revive his career again. Just take your time.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We might have to reevaluate the Bengals chances without you
for the review. I don't know that everyone showed up
to the game but when they needed to, and it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Makes that's too bad, alright, but if that but if
it would have happened, we would have been all right.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That's uh, that's unfortunate. But that that was a just
a wild finish to a game and a wild day
and and I know that if you're the Rams, like
you can. Sean mc McVeigh was saying afterwards, like, oh,
you know, listen, we can't let the Eagles beat us twice.
You know, got to get back out there. But that's
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got to be a pretty demoralizing loss to think we
had that in control and still an opportunity down the
stretch and got a kick block twice and the second
one got returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It is just insult to injury. But they look good.
It's crazy to say the Rams looked really good.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
They they had great balance on offense early on in
the game. They were able to run the ball, different
types of ways they were able to throw the ball.
I thought Matthew Stafford looked really good out there. I
thought they looked good on defense. Jared Vers looked like
a grown ass man out there. I mean, he smoked hurt,
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hitty titty ever. I mean, it's just to tell of
two halves of football.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Have there been more hard hits this year than in
recent I feel like guys are getting lit up like
a lot more. And I don't know if it's because
the kickoff and what's been what's happening on the kickoff,
but it just feels like guys are getting smoked a
lot more this year.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
His soul knocked out of his body for two seconds.
Where to go? I mean, it started to go to
the great outer beyond, it went back, came back. God Lee,
I just you know, but you gotta you gotta also
take a look at at Philadelphia and and understand that
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this is this is the chap and they they took
the rams best hit and they still were able to
bounce back and find a way to win it. Uh,
in the last moments of the game. It took the
entire game, and it took some improbable type stuff taking
place for them to get it. But man, I thought
that was a really, really fine game. Man it showed
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a lot of parody. I mean, I think the Rams
are better. I kind of felt like they were going
to be pretty good if if Matthew Stafford stays healthy.
I mean, I guess, if they can keep most of
their guys, if Puka Nakula can stay healthy, if if Davante,
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if they if them guys can stay healthy, the Rams
are going to be a team to deal with in
the NFC. I definitely see them being team that could
actually make a move for maybe further than what I
originally thought. I mean, I think unless they just played
the Eagles very well.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You just wonder, though, at the end of the day,
since there's really only a handful of teams you feel
like in the NFC that are biding for that number
one overall spot, like, how this factor's that Because if
you're the Rams, you had an opportunity and that could
very well be the difference when it's all said and done.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, you know, and then watching the forty nine ers,
it's wild that they're three and o. And again I'm
still down on them, I really am. I'm still down
on them.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
You should be.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But they're three and o some way somehow, and they're
finding ways. They are finding ways to win. So there
is that. But I look at the West and it's
like I thought that the Cardinals were better than what
they are, but they're just they're the Cardinals. And I
guess I have to that's my Cleveland brown of this show. Right.
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You guys do to Cleveland Browns every year?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I do.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I do Arizona every year. For some strange reason, I
always feel like this is the year that they're going
to be a little bit more better than what they
were the year before, and that little bit.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Good memories out there, right, I mean yeah, hell yeah,
I mean yeah, bones right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It's a great place to eat, great place to eat.
Ocean what is it? Ocean forty what is it? Forty one?
Fifty one, forty three?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
There's a really nice hotel out there too. What what's
it called? You know what it is? Q? What is it?
It's like a resort or something like that. You know
what I'm talking about though, right, it's a resort. It's
like there, it is, there, it is. Yeah, it's a
really nice place. Man, really enjoyed it. But yeah, they're
they're they're a letdown. They're fools. Go I think it's
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safe to say Arizona is Yeah, their fools gold. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I mean, you know the James Conn injuries awful and
then injury wise, the forty nine ers literally can't go
a week without somebody getting injured. And I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Man. He put his thumb down, like nope, not good
because they what did they come out and say that?
They did? They say what it is?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
They're saying it to me, but it looked like it
was his hip.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He got buried on that play. Yea, he got hurt
like they double team.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And then he was he tried to walk off and
then he collapsed on the sideline and so they're waiting
on the news of what the extent is.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But he put his thumbs down. He's somebody he knew
he was talking to, and he was like, yep, nope,
no good, big thumbs down. I mean his thumb was
big as hell, Like it was a big ass thumb.
Thin it was down, it was not up. It's not
a good loss for them, man, I mean they are
they are minus so many key key players. But you
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got to think the West is for the taking, for
for the Rams. Who else is going to do it? Fools?
Gold Arizona wounded, Seattle's got that defense. Seattle looked pretty good, man. Yeah,
Seattle's looking Seattle's looking pretty good. Who did they thump yesterday?
The Saints. Yeah, I don't know if I can give
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them too much credit on it, but they did beat
the Steelers. And the Steelers look like they're a pretty
decent team. Man, They're pretty decent. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's about time he came around on the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
About time, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I would like to also give a tip of the
cap to Tampa Bay and the New York Jets are
rolling out the old school unis. Yesterday just just tremendous,
just a tremendous look and a game that Tampa Bay
almost lost and almost gave away.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then Aaron Glad out there, as you mentioned, dancing it.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And that's two games on on like TV where he
did that. He was flexing against the Steelers. Y'all lost
that game. You went sprinting down the sideline when y'all
got that that block return, y'all lost that game. I mean,
it's just you gotta stop doing that until y'all win.
Do it after the clock strikes all zeros. No more
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celebrating before the game is over. I feel like you're
you're you're the mush of your own team.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, yeah, well you know it's the Jets.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I mean you should be uh and it's the Jets.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Should be used to all that. By now, two pros
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Speaker 1 (17:24):
I probably said sound even better on that speaker than
I do when I'm just normally all right, I.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Got bad and that's tough to beat.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You like your voice?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Peak? I do like my? Do you like yours? Lvar?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Damn? Sorry, right out the gate is getting after you
the far voice.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's all right, Sorry, Pete.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Sorry, You're like you're like Barry White back in the day.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
You know, wow, uh, Pete, You've been covering the league
for a long time, over thirty years. Have you ever
seen a weekend like that? We had that many block
kits that were influential on the come up games.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
No, never, and it was incredible every and you know
what's going to happen this week. Every single team in
the league is going to be spending the extra time
working on their field goal protection unit. I mean it was,
and it happened like right, all at the same time
you had the one in Philly, yeah, the one in Tampa,
and then you had the Cleveland one, where god, they
could have picked that up and won the game without
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even having to kick a field goals they had you know,
they played made to play the right way. So it's
it's look, I hate special teams, you know that, but
but it added to the drama on Sunday. And there's
nothing like this league. Every single game comes down to
the end, everyone, with the exception of a few each week,
and that's what makes it such a great league.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Why do you hate special teams?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I like playing football, I mean kicking and punting, and
it's just this should have never been my thing. I mean,
you know, field goal kickers have all damn day to
stand around with their pals and they're snapper and their
holder and they stand on another field they kick all
day and then they get in the game and the
yankets in the left. I mean, come on, your job
is to make the damp kick. Make the damp kick.
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And you know then the kickoff rules have made it
so complicated and now now the new thing is, well
I'm inside my flive, So I'm going to feel my punts.
What are these guys doing? It used to be if
your feet were inside the ten, you don't feel this
Now I hear it's the eight. What are we doing?
The ball? Let the ball go nine times out of
ten is going to go into the end zone for
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a touchback?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
What are they doing? I don't think that's right.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I think these punters have gotten so good at being
able to back that thing up that now they're they're like, hey,
if we let it balance, someone's going to the kick
coverage team, someone's going to be able to downt inside
the five.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
So maybe that's something to do with it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh wait, so wait, so let me stand on the
on the seven or eight and fair catch it rather
than take a chance to figure that's going to go
into the end zone. Break Come on yet, me break.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm just telling you, these punters are not like what
you were accustomed to twenty thirty years ago when you
first got in the league.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
These kids do this the right Let's just say be bad.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Let's say he backs it up. Okay, it ball hits
on the two and he backs it up to the five.
So it's worth the risks for three yards or two yards.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, because that difference really allows your punter if you're
surely just trying to create enough space to punt, that
allows them actually have room putters stand fourteen yards. Back
to the little snapper. I know you knew all this
because you fall in the league forever. But yeah, that's
actually the difference of a potential pump block and then
changing the entire operations and then those three yards.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
So yes, that actually makes a big difference.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
It's not worth it. It's not worth it. It's not
worth it.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
It just isn't good argument.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Pete, Pete, I'm gonna give you a number of I'm
gonna give you a number of O.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Let's move on. You lost that one. We'll move on.
Which team that's oh in three? Right now? Are you
in panic?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Milling on the Dolphins, Titans, Texans, Giants. I'm not gonna
include Saints that no one really cares about them.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Ah, oh wow, you took to have the door. Okay,
well then.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
They don't have expectations. And by the way, that I
should have included the Jets.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Do you want me to ask who the worst of
that group is?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well, no, I think I've got an idea. Who're going
to say for that.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I'm just saying, which one of those three You're like,
this is actually a good football team?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And if they don't win this week, it's done. It's over.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The Texans. The Texans defense is really good, the Texans
offense thinks, and then their schedule is absolutely brutal, and
they play the other three Titans this week. So if
they don't win this game, they're finished. They're over, they're done.
I mean, you look at their schedule, if you just
take a glance down, they'll be Even if they beat
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the Titans, they're gonna be hard pressed to win five
or six games. That's how bad that schedule is. And
they're not good. And remember all off season we've happed
the offensive line. It's gonna be so much better. On
the offensive line, they've gotten worse. DJ Stroud is going
to be improved because of the offensive line. He's got worse.
Nico Collins can make plays. You got nobody else. The
team isn't very good right now on the offensive side
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of the ball, and it shows up. Oh and they
can turn around the handoff to a running back who
is sixty five years Olden's knees have been gone for
three years. I mean, it's just they need to change.
Woody Marx needs to play running back. Look, it's sad.
It's this cruel reality the NFL. You get old, you
get injured, and you can't run the ball like you
used to. Nick Chubbles once a great back, he's not anymore.
So play Woody marks the offensive line. They got rid
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of their left tackle and they've gotten worse. And then
you know, receivers. You got to start playing those younger
guys and get them involved in the passing game. So
I think they have major problems and they're the biggest
disappointment right now.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Pete.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Are the Colts fools gold or should we be believers
in Daniel Jones and this team.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I'm not a believer yet. And I said that last
night on our show, and everybody got all over me.
I said, you know what the record is, the combined
records the teams they've beaten this at one in eight
and okay, well you gotta beat who you play. I
get it. But they beat the Titans and the Dolphins,
and those two teams are awful. So let's hold off
on the coronation of Daniel Jones getting everything that was
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bad in his game, wiped out by Kevin O'Connell and Minnesota,
and now he's on too. You're a better thing. Is
he playing better football? Yes, but let's be real, look
at the competition hadn't been great. They beat the Broncos
at home, probably shouldn't have won that game either, and
then they beat Miami and Tennessee, who are basically, you know,
roadblocks on the I mean the you know speed bumps
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on the road when you're trying to get through it.
That's what they are.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Ah what yah?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You never it looks it all. It's just like remember
last week Jack Browning, Oh my god, he was four
and great. Jay Browning was four and three when he played.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
We took a different stance on that one, Pete. We
were just more excited about who would be coming a CJ.
Clark Browning play, So we kind of took a different
stance on that. I look at the Browns Packers the
way that game ended.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
A couple of things.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Is Miles Garrett the best defensive player in the league.
I mean there were triple teaming him sometimes at some points.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well he is right now, yeah, I mean the other
guy on the other side wasn't getting triple t was he?
I didn't think so. I mean, you know, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I saw Judkins ship him and knock him down.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
He chipped him and knocked him down. And he didn't
look like he liked that chip very much, did he?
Because they never liked the chip? And and the other
guy's getting triple team the entire game. I mean, yeah,
if you asked me which one is a better better player,
I would take Miles Garrett over Michael Parsons. So would you, wow?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
And so no, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
No, I would, I wouldn't. Don't put words in my mouth.
Pete Prisco, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
If Miles Garrett went to Penn State, you'd put him
in the Hall of Fame already.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Uh, that's probably true. That is probably true. But I
think Michael Parsons is more of a generational player than
Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
What are you talking about that? Don't lie you wait,
he's more of a generational player. Miles Garrett is the
best defensive player in the league.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Michael Parsons is more of a generational player than Miles Garrett.
And if you were asking me, who would I choose
to put on my franchise. Between the two, I go
with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Well, you're you're the you're the only guy, and you're
the And by.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The way, I don't I've never followed the crowd, you know,
I really haven't you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Follow anybody who has Penn State next to their name.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, that's not true. I'm not a blind homer either.
I'm not and I'm not and I'm not an apologist either.
I actually shoot from the hip, shoot from the hips.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
LeVar Miles. Michael Parsons is a great player, but he's
not better than Miles Garrett. And there's and there's no
GM in the league that would take other than Age.
If if age didn't factor in, and if you ask
all these gms who they would take, they would take Miles.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
What do you factor into saying that though he's a
better pass rusher, he does is pass rush.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Does do you think Michael Parsons plays the run when
it's at him very well?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I mean, Michael Parsons can play to run. Michael Parsons
could come off the line of scrimmant if he.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Wanted to chase down, he could chase down runs. I'll
give you that. But when it runs at him. That's
the whole book on his run at him.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Nah, I mean Noah, Micah makes plays. I listen, listen.
Miles Garrett is a true what you would call it,
a true defensive end size wise, the the ability is,
it's phenomenal. I don't know that I would say Miles
Garrett is better than TJ.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Watt.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I might take t J. Watt before I take Miles Garrett.
I'm just being honest.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Win for us, Jonas, Hey.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. I like
Miles Garrett's game, and Miles Garrett has been very effective
for the Cleveland Browns, but Michael Parsons is a generational
talent that is comparable only to a few names uh
in the league with what he's been able to accomplish
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since coming into the league. And that's not really up
for debate. And Miles Garrett isn't in that conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He's not so pretty soon you're gonna be telling me
abdul Carter is better than Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
No, I haven't said that. He looked pretty good at
times last night, but not yet. He's got to get
the young Bucks sometime. He's on the funky team right now.
He's got to figure it out, you know, they got to.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Ford it out. Poor poor Miles Garrett's not better than
Chop Robinson either.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Out of here, Pete, Poor Miles Garrett, Arnold.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Ny is better than.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
That go to John and Jason Away. Go at dafeo
away in Baltimore. We got we got quite a few
in the league, damn, but none better than Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Pete Prisco with us here on if you can't tell
this is Pete Prisco. But Pete speaking of Michael Parson's
former team, the Dallas Cowboy is I'm not really sure
what to make of yesterday because the Bears offense looked great,
but Dallas' defense is really bad. What is your takeaway
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from that game?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
They look better on offense, Caleb Williams looked much more
sure of himself, but I mean, really, I'm with you.
That defense is atrocious. And I joke around that they
play in concrete shoes in the secondary. I mean they're slow,
they have bust, guys are wide open, they don't rush
the passer. And look, if Michael Parsons was there, there
we go. They know he's a great player, but I
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don't think it really would have been that big a difference,
to be honest with you. Now, No Bland is not there,
so that impacts the secondary. But Trayvon Diggs not very good.
Donovan Wilson, I mean, my gosh, in two years, he's
gone from a guy that was actually playing pretty good
safety to a guy who can't move and guys are
wide open, They're busted all over the place. And so
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to answer your question, I think it's more reflection of
the Dallas d defense than it is of Caleb Williams.
He was better. He was, you know, but again you're
playing on air. I mean it was a seven on
seven game. They didn't pressure him, the guys were wide open.
You know the touchdown he threw to Loveland, there was
nobody there and he almost overthrew it. I mean, so
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he was better, but it's more of a reflection of
the Cowboys defense.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
The Chiefs got to win last night. Was sitting now
on one and two. I still feel like their offense
just it's not only coming along.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I know they got some guys miss on the outside,
But do you feel like this is kind of the
time now where maybe we're not seeing Kansas City dominate
quite as much as we have in recent years.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, but it's easy to play win games when you
play defense with twelve guys. They had their eleven and
Russell Wilson, I mean, god, he was awful. He is
so bad. And by the way, and by the way,
the four place sequence at the end of.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
The game, what stop the first off? Hold on, hold on,
hold on to the jerk out? Who put that out there?
Where do you want him to go in the first play?
Where do you want them to go?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Like?
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Who was open on that first play? And then then
they run a quarterback draw, which.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
That's not his call my throw he got intentional grounding
by throwing into the tunnel.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Buddy, I'm just saying, like, where do you want to
put the ball?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And then a fourth down you least to put it
in play the gold that would I'll.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Give you the third and fourth down plays that I'll
give you. But but the first down play, the quarterback draw,
It's like it wasn't their.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Quarterback drawing there, And I guarantee you that was some
kind of check he made it. The line of scream
is just by judging by the bran table face look,
and then the two interceptions. He stinks, he's got to
sit down. They got to go to Jackson dark get
him out of there. And by the way, why won't
he give Chris Jones his jersey in the jersey exchange?
What the hell is that all about? Anybody know? I mean,
my gosh, get him off the field, get on with
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it and play Jackson Dart. He's terrible. You need to
sit down.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
So Wilson and Chris Jones can't swap jerseys.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Didn't you see that? After the game they asked him.
He's been trying for years to get a jersey swap
but from Russell Wilson, and Russell Wilson won't give it
to him. And they asked him again and he goes,
I'm done asking him, And to be honest with you,
I don't want it anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Pete, what would you be willing to pay for Russell
wilson jersey?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Let's see tuna on Rye? Oh wow, I mean yeah,
I'll give you. Maybe I'll throw in I'll throw in
keys on that sandwich. Wrap it up nice?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Have you put a tomato on there?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah? Well, y'all put some tomato on there and freshing
up the sandwich nights. Back to the Chiefs, Back to
the Chiefs. Look, they played great defense and Russell Wilson
helped them. They'll get me wrong, but their offense has
major problems still they you know they And does last
night cover up the deficiencies in the offense? No, they
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got he got pressured all night. The offensive line didn't
play well. Again, they don't run the ball consistently, and
they don't have many threats in the passing game. So, Brady,
I'm still worried about their offense. Will they when they
get Worthy back, when they get Rice back, does that
change the offense? Absolutely, But that's going to be you know,
Worthy might be back this week, maybe next week, and
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it's going to be a couple more weeks for Rushie
Rice until they get those guys back, that offense is
very limited.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Can I tell you what they need?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
They need to run the damn ball like they need
to have a consistent running game and team right now
are the charges in their division with who like?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
But Jecko doesn't look like he did before the injury,
and Kareem Hunt looks like he's gaining twenty two yards
to Game four. I mean they were who they running
it with. They got maybe they got to play Smith,
But the problem is he probably a great enough fairs protection.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yet I'm just football.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That team has no juice in the run game, none. Zero.
That's why I think Smith would give him the best option,
because he does have a little bit of juice. And
you see, and he's starting to play a little bit
more and more. But Checko doesn't. Since he's come back
from injury, it.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Looked like the same guy as he He doesn't have
to look like the same guy for them to be
effective running the ball, though. He's just got it. They
gotta they gotta be affected.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
They can pitch the ball. They could pitch the ball
to you and let run run the running back. The
running back matters.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It does matter. You said, you acting like for Checo
can't do it.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He can do it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
He's just not the same guy. He's not being the
same guy. And dream Hunts of you know, Cream Hunts,
one of those guys that turns two yard runs into
five yard runs and turns twenty yard runs into five
yard runs. That's who he is.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I want to do an Oklahoma drill with you, Pete.
That's what that's what I will do. How about that,
Pitch me the ball and do Oklahoma with you.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'll root you out of the hole. I'll root you out.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, all right, already I got got one good rep
left in me. Pete, just for you, though, Pete, Uh, Pete, yes, sir,
excellent as always.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I'm not shy to uh to share your opinions on
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
It's a hater, hater, Peter var I'm a realist.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And everybody else just you know, blow smoke everybody up,
everybody's behind. Oh god, Arnold Kenny is better than Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Hey, Pete, by the way, by the way, Oregon, Penn State,
who you got this week winning that one?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
You know who he's got?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Go ahead, hater, Well, it's all going to show up
as a robotis are going to play quarterback? I gotta
figure that.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
He's been he's been bad this year. Man, it's a
verse bad time he's gotten.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
He's gotten worse, He's gotten worse.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I'm not going to sit here allow for y'all to
do that, like take us the break, John's true. Let's
talk about Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Let's not talk about let's not talk about gotta win.
I don't know what it seems.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Finally, I could care less who you play. Y'all got.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
One win?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Isn't the game at Penn State?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yes, and it's the wide out.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah yeah, that sounds like another top top five.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
To see us.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Go get him on Act Frisco CBS.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Pete.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I always appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
We already last year.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, eaked one out on Fox Sports Radio and then
winning loss to another.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I would say my quarterback right now over your quarterback
any day.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
That's fine. And I'll take my quarterback over your quarterback
any day. And we're undefeated.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
You're struggling, Rose colored classes off.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You struggled. Ease, leave Drew Aller to me, she got
leave Drew Aller to me.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
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Speaker 3 (01:33):
Go over this week.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
It feels like that was wild, Like have we ever
seen a weekend like that ever in NFL history?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
There we go? Now here we go? Go ahead, up right,
cue if you want me to.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I think I need I need a little something first though,
Can you guys provide me maybe some game show music?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Come on, come on right now, give him some good
let him jump right into he's been waiting for this. Yeah,
let's do this. Yes, I had all right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's now time for what is a better chance a
blocked field goal being returned for a touchdown and not
only winning the game, but flipping the bet or pretty
much anything else in life. Are two contestants are LeVar
Arrington on one side the college Football.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Hall of Fame and on the other side, Jonas Knocks.
He's the King of the Ring, the Lord of the Sword.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh wow, I'm really sure.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
There's Jonahs Knock on the other side.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Like, I'll take I'll take that, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So here are the Rules of the Games, which has
a better chance of happening the exact scenario that played
out in the Los Angeles Rams Philadelphia Eagles game where
the Rams are down one, they're kicking a field goal
to not only win, and even if they missed, by
the way, they would have covered that spread. But instead
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it gets blocked by Jordan Davis and returned by Jordan Davis,
which I couldn't even factor into, like that size of
human being running eighteen miles an hour. As part of this, however,
I'll tell you at the end of it what the
percentage chances are. But I'll start off with you, LeVar,
what do you have a better chance of getting injured
(03:10):
playing recreational sports in just one year's time or that
exact scenario playing.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Out I'm gonna go with the injury in one year's
time recreationally, that is correct, of course.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Who actually have just a little over a one percent chance?
Do you know that it's a lot less than you think.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
All right, let's go over now to Jonah Downs, the
Lord of the Sword.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Do you have a better chance of being struck by
lightning or that exact scenario playing out in yesterday's game.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh, that scenario in yesterday's game.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
That's wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It is just just a little bit more likely, just
a little bit more likely that scenario.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, all right, but nobody never follow your betting.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Hold on, hold on the room, hold on. We're talking
about a lightning strike.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yes, we're talking about by the way, in a year,
not even a lifetime. A year.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It's like, you know, the probability is not high on that.
So it's a little disturbing that that. That's how this
this bet went. Next up, college Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
What family you're in.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Do you have a better chance.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Of being killed in the plane crash or yesterday scenario
playing out?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You know what I'm going to go with plane crash.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
That is wrong.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
It's just just statistically less of a chance of dying
a plane crash than what we saw yesterday between the
Rams and the.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Eaglesang, well, that's good.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Not for all right? How about that this.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Week, Jonas, you are now up expiring a car accident
in a year's time or yesterday's event.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Oh, car accident, not by much, by the way, that's correct.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Only have about double a better chance of dying or
not dying getting into a car accident in a year's time.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Excuse me, I got a little dark there.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Okay, Next up, getting food poisoning, LeVar or yesterday's event.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh, food poisoning easily?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
That is correct. You have a five percent chance, by
the way, of getting food poisoning.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
I didn't think that was that high.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, I mean I've had food poison One more piece
healthy people cooking food these days.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
One more piece, having twins or what happened yesterday.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I made twins, so I'm not I would never get
this one correct.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, I'll go with the twins.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
That's correct. Having twins you have a little bit better
statistical chance. And finally, LeVar, you can finish this one
off what happened yesterday or a Gamba ray burst causing
extinction level event on Earth.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Tang Uh, I'm gonna go with what happened yesterday.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
That is correct.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
People going to finish that is so you actually had
a point less than a point zero five percent chance
of what occurred in that game happening. And mind you,
we had it in like multiple games where there was
block field goals that were turning in to touch on
just not to finish the game, like we saw between.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Ellie and Philly.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, it was bananas, man, I don't and and the
uh because you're probably you're watching the game. You got
the Rams plus three and a hook, and you're watching
the game and they're in total control, and you're thinking,
all right, well, this is this is their get back
for the playoff game. They were really competitive, good matchup,
like they had their number, and then it just started
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to fall apart. And then it started to dwindle and
the lead started to shrink, and you're like, all right,
but hey, at least at least they've got an opportunity here,
and if nothing crazy happens, you're still going to get it,
because you get your plus three and a half. And
then this locomotive picks up a ball and runs it
eighteen miles the hour he blocked it first, eighteen miles
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an hour.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That Grizzly Bear blocked that bad boy first.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm telling you right now, if I if I had
money on the Rams in that game, and I was
listening to it while I was at the sun with
my I was at the park with my son on
the swings, I would just leave him on their would
I would? I would leave him on the swings. I
would leave him on the swings and never come back.
I swear to god, you figured it out on your own.
I'm out of here.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I figure out to handle that.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Because on a bet like that, we're talking lightning strike,
probability that that that is something like that happens. I'm
leaving him there. You figure it out. I got bigger issues.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Like three or four block field golds yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Five and the first in the opening window.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah right, and one and two were returned for two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Although the Bucks Jets one they went all excited.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I mean that didn't age well. The excitement dance did
not age well. Baker was slanging that thing. Then on
that last drive, how good is a.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Mecca Buka by the way for a rookie to come
in do? He's like, as smooth as it gets smooth.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I think that was a Prisco pick, Like he was
talking about a Mecca Buka.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I thought it was a catch.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Well, I mean, come on, dude, Prisco picks like the East.
He said, Oh, you know, I think Joe Burl's gonna
be really good. He's gonna win to multiple super Bowls,
Like well, yeah, he was the number one overall. Joe
Burl obviously.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Really good, must be really good, and the Vikings must
just do really well with like journeyman quarterbacks like JJ,
Like take your time again. Your injury has has given way. Yeah,
it's given way to a vet having the opportunity to
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revive his career again. Just take your time.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We might have to reevaluate the Bengals chances without you
for the review. I don't know that everyone showed up
to the game but when they needed to, and it.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Makes that's too bad, alright, but if that but if
it would have happened, we would have been all right.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
That's uh, that's unfortunate. But that that was a just
a wild finish to a game and a wild day
and and I know that if you're the Rams, like
you can. Sean mc McVeigh was saying afterwards, like, oh,
you know, listen, we can't let the Eagles beat us twice.
You know, got to get back out there. But that's
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got to be a pretty demoralizing loss to think we
had that in control and still an opportunity down the
stretch and got a kick block twice and the second
one got returned for a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It is just insult to injury. But they look good.
It's crazy to say the Rams looked really good.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
They they had great balance on offense early on in
the game. They were able to run the ball, different
types of ways they were able to throw the ball.
I thought Matthew Stafford looked really good out there. I
thought they looked good on defense. Jared Vers looked like
a grown ass man out there. I mean, he smoked hurt,
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hitty titty ever. I mean, it's just to tell of
two halves of football.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Have there been more hard hits this year than in
recent I feel like guys are getting lit up like
a lot more. And I don't know if it's because
the kickoff and what's been what's happening on the kickoff,
but it just feels like guys are getting smoked a
lot more this year.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
His soul knocked out of his body for two seconds.
Where to go? I mean, it started to go to
the great outer beyond, it went back, came back. God Lee,
I just you know, but you gotta you gotta also
take a look at at Philadelphia and and understand that
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this is this is the chap and they they took
the rams best hit and they still were able to
bounce back and find a way to win it. Uh,
in the last moments of the game. It took the
entire game, and it took some improbable type stuff taking
place for them to get it. But man, I thought
that was a really, really fine game. Man it showed
(11:30):
a lot of parody. I mean, I think the Rams
are better. I kind of felt like they were going
to be pretty good if if Matthew Stafford stays healthy.
I mean, I guess, if they can keep most of
their guys, if Puka Nakula can stay healthy, if if Davante,
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if they if them guys can stay healthy, the Rams
are going to be a team to deal with in
the NFC. I definitely see them being team that could
actually make a move for maybe further than what I
originally thought. I mean, I think unless they just played
the Eagles very well.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You just wonder, though, at the end of the day,
since there's really only a handful of teams you feel
like in the NFC that are biding for that number
one overall spot, like, how this factor's that Because if
you're the Rams, you had an opportunity and that could
very well be the difference when it's all said and done.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, you know, and then watching the forty nine ers,
it's wild that they're three and o. And again I'm
still down on them, I really am. I'm still down
on them.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
You should be.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
But they're three and o some way somehow, and they're
finding ways. They are finding ways to win. So there
is that. But I look at the West and it's
like I thought that the Cardinals were better than what
they are, but they're just they're the Cardinals. And I
guess I have to that's my Cleveland brown of this show. Right.
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You guys do to Cleveland Browns every year?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I do.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I do Arizona every year. For some strange reason, I
always feel like this is the year that they're going
to be a little bit more better than what they
were the year before, and that little bit.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Good memories out there, right, I mean yeah, hell yeah,
I mean yeah, bones right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It's a great place to eat, great place to eat.
Ocean what is it? Ocean forty what is it? Forty one?
Fifty one, forty three?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
There's a really nice hotel out there too. What what's
it called? You know what it is? Q? What is it?
It's like a resort or something like that. You know
what I'm talking about though, right, it's a resort. It's
like there, it is, there, it is. Yeah, it's a
really nice place. Man, really enjoyed it. But yeah, they're
they're they're a letdown. They're fools. Go I think it's
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safe to say Arizona is Yeah, their fools gold. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I mean, you know the James Conn injuries awful and
then injury wise, the forty nine ers literally can't go
a week without somebody getting injured. And I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Man. He put his thumb down, like nope, not good
because they what did they come out and say that?
They did? They say what it is?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
They're saying it to me, but it looked like it
was his hip.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He got buried on that play. Yea, he got hurt
like they double team.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And then he was he tried to walk off and
then he collapsed on the sideline and so they're waiting
on the news of what the extent is.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But he put his thumbs down. He's somebody he knew
he was talking to, and he was like, yep, nope,
no good, big thumbs down. I mean his thumb was
big as hell, Like it was a big ass thumb.
Thin it was down, it was not up. It's not
a good loss for them, man, I mean they are
they are minus so many key key players. But you
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got to think the West is for the taking, for
for the Rams. Who else is going to do it? Fools?
Gold Arizona wounded, Seattle's got that defense. Seattle looked pretty good, man. Yeah,
Seattle's looking Seattle's looking pretty good. Who did they thump yesterday?
The Saints. Yeah, I don't know if I can give
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them too much credit on it, but they did beat
the Steelers. And the Steelers look like they're a pretty
decent team. Man, They're pretty decent. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's about time he came around on the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
About time, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I would like to also give a tip of the
cap to Tampa Bay and the New York Jets are
rolling out the old school unis. Yesterday just just tremendous,
just a tremendous look and a game that Tampa Bay
almost lost and almost gave away.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then Aaron Glad out there, as you mentioned, dancing it.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
And that's two games on on like TV where he
did that. He was flexing against the Steelers. Y'all lost
that game. You went sprinting down the sideline when y'all
got that that block return, y'all lost that game. I mean,
it's just you gotta stop doing that until y'all win.
Do it after the clock strikes all zeros. No more
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celebrating before the game is over. I feel like you're
you're you're the mush of your own team.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, yeah, well you know it's the Jets.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I mean you should be uh and it's the Jets.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Should be used to all that. By now, two pros
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Speaker 1 (17:24):
I probably said sound even better on that speaker than
I do when I'm just normally all right, I.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Got bad and that's tough to beat.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You like your voice?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Peak? I do like my? Do you like yours? Lvar?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Damn? Sorry, right out the gate is getting after you
the far voice.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's all right, Sorry, Pete.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Sorry, You're like you're like Barry White back in the day.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
You know, wow, uh, Pete, You've been covering the league
for a long time, over thirty years. Have you ever
seen a weekend like that? We had that many block
kits that were influential on the come up games.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
No, never, and it was incredible every and you know
what's going to happen this week. Every single team in
the league is going to be spending the extra time
working on their field goal protection unit. I mean it was,
and it happened like right, all at the same time
you had the one in Philly, yeah, the one in Tampa,
and then you had the Cleveland one, where god, they
could have picked that up and won the game without
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even having to kick a field goals they had you know,
they played made to play the right way. So it's
it's look, I hate special teams, you know that, but
but it added to the drama on Sunday. And there's
nothing like this league. Every single game comes down to
the end, everyone, with the exception of a few each week,
and that's what makes it such a great league.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Why do you hate special teams?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
I like playing football, I mean kicking and punting, and
it's just this should have never been my thing. I mean,
you know, field goal kickers have all damn day to
stand around with their pals and they're snapper and their
holder and they stand on another field they kick all
day and then they get in the game and the
yankets in the left. I mean, come on, your job
is to make the damp kick. Make the damp kick.
(19:06):
And you know then the kickoff rules have made it
so complicated and now now the new thing is, well
I'm inside my flive, So I'm going to feel my punts.
What are these guys doing? It used to be if
your feet were inside the ten, you don't feel this
Now I hear it's the eight. What are we doing?
The ball? Let the ball go nine times out of
ten is going to go into the end zone for
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a touchback?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
What are they doing? I don't think that's right.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I think these punters have gotten so good at being
able to back that thing up that now they're they're like, hey,
if we let it balance, someone's going to the kick
coverage team, someone's going to be able to downt inside
the five.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
So maybe that's something to do with it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh wait, so wait, so let me stand on the
on the seven or eight and fair catch it rather
than take a chance to figure that's going to go
into the end zone. Break Come on yet, me break.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm just telling you, these punters are not like what
you were accustomed to twenty thirty years ago when you
first got in the league.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
These kids do this the right Let's just say be bad.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Let's say he backs it up. Okay, it ball hits
on the two and he backs it up to the five.
So it's worth the risks for three yards or two yards.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, because that difference really allows your punter if you're
surely just trying to create enough space to punt, that
allows them actually have room putters stand fourteen yards. Back
to the little snapper. I know you knew all this
because you fall in the league forever. But yeah, that's
actually the difference of a potential pump block and then
changing the entire operations and then those three yards.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
So yes, that actually makes a big difference.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
It's not worth it. It's not worth it. It's not
worth it.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
It just isn't good argument.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Pete, Pete, I'm gonna give you a number of I'm
gonna give you a number of O.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Let's move on. You lost that one. We'll move on.
Which team that's oh in three? Right now? Are you
in panic?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Milling on the Dolphins, Titans, Texans, Giants. I'm not gonna
include Saints that no one really cares about them.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Ah, oh wow, you took to have the door. Okay,
well then.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
They don't have expectations. And by the way, that I
should have included the Jets.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Do you want me to ask who the worst of
that group is?
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well, no, I think I've got an idea. Who're going
to say for that.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I'm just saying, which one of those three You're like,
this is actually a good football team?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And if they don't win this week, it's done. It's over.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
The Texans. The Texans defense is really good, the Texans
offense thinks, and then their schedule is absolutely brutal, and
they play the other three Titans this week. So if
they don't win this game, they're finished. They're over, they're done.
I mean, you look at their schedule, if you just
take a glance down, they'll be Even if they beat
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the Titans, they're gonna be hard pressed to win five
or six games. That's how bad that schedule is. And
they're not good. And remember all off season we've happed
the offensive line. It's gonna be so much better. On
the offensive line, they've gotten worse. DJ Stroud is going
to be improved because of the offensive line. He's got worse.
Nico Collins can make plays. You got nobody else. The
team isn't very good right now on the offensive side
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of the ball, and it shows up. Oh and they
can turn around the handoff to a running back who
is sixty five years Olden's knees have been gone for
three years. I mean, it's just they need to change.
Woody Marx needs to play running back. Look, it's sad.
It's this cruel reality the NFL. You get old, you
get injured, and you can't run the ball like you
used to. Nick Chubbles once a great back, he's not anymore.
So play Woody marks the offensive line. They got rid
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of their left tackle and they've gotten worse. And then
you know, receivers. You got to start playing those younger
guys and get them involved in the passing game. So
I think they have major problems and they're the biggest
disappointment right now.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Pete.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Are the Colts fools gold or should we be believers
in Daniel Jones and this team.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I'm not a believer yet. And I said that last
night on our show, and everybody got all over me.
I said, you know what the record is, the combined
records the teams they've beaten this at one in eight
and okay, well you gotta beat who you play. I
get it. But they beat the Titans and the Dolphins,
and those two teams are awful. So let's hold off
on the coronation of Daniel Jones getting everything that was
(22:55):
bad in his game, wiped out by Kevin O'Connell and Minnesota,
and now he's on too. You're a better thing. Is
he playing better football? Yes, but let's be real, look
at the competition hadn't been great. They beat the Broncos
at home, probably shouldn't have won that game either, and
then they beat Miami and Tennessee, who are basically, you know,
roadblocks on the I mean the you know speed bumps
(23:16):
on the road when you're trying to get through it.
That's what they are.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Ah what yah?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
You never it looks it all. It's just like remember
last week Jack Browning, Oh my god, he was four
and great. Jay Browning was four and three when he played.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
We took a different stance on that one, Pete. We
were just more excited about who would be coming a CJ.
Clark Browning play, So we kind of took a different
stance on that. I look at the Browns Packers the
way that game ended.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
A couple of things.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Is Miles Garrett the best defensive player in the league.
I mean there were triple teaming him sometimes at some points.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Well he is right now, yeah, I mean the other
guy on the other side wasn't getting triple t was he?
I didn't think so. I mean, you know, Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I saw Judkins ship him and knock him down.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
He chipped him and knocked him down. And he didn't
look like he liked that chip very much, did he?
Because they never liked the chip? And and the other
guy's getting triple team the entire game. I mean, yeah,
if you asked me which one is a better better player,
I would take Miles Garrett over Michael Parsons. So would you, wow?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
And so no, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
No, I would, I wouldn't. Don't put words in my mouth.
Pete Prisco, that's not true.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
If Miles Garrett went to Penn State, you'd put him
in the Hall of Fame already.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Uh, that's probably true. That is probably true. But I
think Michael Parsons is more of a generational player than
Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
What are you talking about that? Don't lie you wait,
he's more of a generational player. Miles Garrett is the
best defensive player in the league.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Michael Parsons is more of a generational player than Miles Garrett.
And if you were asking me, who would I choose
to put on my franchise. Between the two, I go
with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Well, you're you're the you're the only guy, and you're
the And by.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
The way, I don't I've never followed the crowd, you know,
I really haven't you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Follow anybody who has Penn State next to their name.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
No, that's not true. I'm not a blind homer either.
I'm not and I'm not and I'm not an apologist either.
I actually shoot from the hip, shoot from the hips.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
LeVar Miles. Michael Parsons is a great player, but he's
not better than Miles Garrett. And there's and there's no
GM in the league that would take other than Age.
If if age didn't factor in, and if you ask
all these gms who they would take, they would take Miles.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
What do you factor into saying that though he's a
better pass rusher, he does is pass rush.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Does do you think Michael Parsons plays the run when
it's at him very well?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I mean, Michael Parsons can play to run. Michael Parsons
could come off the line of scrimmant if he.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Wanted to chase down, he could chase down runs. I'll
give you that. But when it runs at him. That's
the whole book on his run at him.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Nah, I mean Noah, Micah makes plays. I listen, listen.
Miles Garrett is a true what you would call it,
a true defensive end size wise, the the ability is,
it's phenomenal. I don't know that I would say Miles
Garrett is better than TJ.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Watt.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I might take t J. Watt before I take Miles Garrett.
I'm just being honest.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Win for us, Jonas, Hey.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. I like
Miles Garrett's game, and Miles Garrett has been very effective
for the Cleveland Browns, but Michael Parsons is a generational
talent that is comparable only to a few names uh
in the league with what he's been able to accomplish
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since coming into the league. And that's not really up
for debate. And Miles Garrett isn't in that conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
He's not so pretty soon you're gonna be telling me
abdul Carter is better than Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
No, I haven't said that. He looked pretty good at
times last night, but not yet. He's got to get
the young Bucks sometime. He's on the funky team right now.
He's got to figure it out, you know, they got to.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Ford it out. Poor poor Miles Garrett's not better than
Chop Robinson either.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Out of here, Pete, Poor Miles Garrett, Arnold.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Ny is better than.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
That go to John and Jason Away. Go at dafeo
away in Baltimore. We got we got quite a few
in the league, damn, but none better than Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Pete Prisco with us here on if you can't tell
this is Pete Prisco. But Pete speaking of Michael Parson's
former team, the Dallas Cowboy is I'm not really sure
what to make of yesterday because the Bears offense looked great,
but Dallas' defense is really bad. What is your takeaway
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from that game?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
They look better on offense, Caleb Williams looked much more
sure of himself, but I mean, really, I'm with you.
That defense is atrocious. And I joke around that they
play in concrete shoes in the secondary. I mean they're slow,
they have bust, guys are wide open, they don't rush
the passer. And look, if Michael Parsons was there, there
we go. They know he's a great player, but I
(28:36):
don't think it really would have been that big a difference,
to be honest with you. Now, No Bland is not there,
so that impacts the secondary. But Trayvon Diggs not very good.
Donovan Wilson, I mean, my gosh, in two years, he's
gone from a guy that was actually playing pretty good
safety to a guy who can't move and guys are
wide open, They're busted all over the place. And so
(28:56):
to answer your question, I think it's more reflection of
the Dallas d defense than it is of Caleb Williams.
He was better. He was, you know, but again you're
playing on air. I mean it was a seven on
seven game. They didn't pressure him, the guys were wide open.
You know the touchdown he threw to Loveland, there was
nobody there and he almost overthrew it. I mean, so
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he was better, but it's more of a reflection of
the Cowboys defense.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
The Chiefs got to win last night. Was sitting now
on one and two. I still feel like their offense
just it's not only coming along.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I know they got some guys miss on the outside,
But do you feel like this is kind of the
time now where maybe we're not seeing Kansas City dominate
quite as much as we have in recent years.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, but it's easy to play win games when you
play defense with twelve guys. They had their eleven and
Russell Wilson, I mean, god, he was awful. He is
so bad. And by the way, and by the way,
the four place sequence at the end of.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
The game, what stop the first off? Hold on, hold on,
hold on to the jerk out? Who put that out there?
Where do you want him to go in the first play?
Where do you want them to go?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Like?
Speaker 5 (30:08):
Who was open on that first play? And then then
they run a quarterback draw, which.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
That's not his call my throw he got intentional grounding
by throwing into the tunnel.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Buddy, I'm just saying, like, where do you want to
put the ball?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And then a fourth down you least to put it
in play the gold that would I'll.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Give you the third and fourth down plays that I'll
give you. But but the first down play, the quarterback draw,
It's like it wasn't their.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Quarterback drawing there, And I guarantee you that was some
kind of check he made it. The line of scream
is just by judging by the bran table face look,
and then the two interceptions. He stinks, he's got to
sit down. They got to go to Jackson dark get
him out of there. And by the way, why won't
he give Chris Jones his jersey in the jersey exchange?
What the hell is that all about? Anybody know? I mean,
my gosh, get him off the field, get on with
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it and play Jackson Dart. He's terrible. You need to
sit down.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
So Wilson and Chris Jones can't swap jerseys.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Didn't you see that? After the game they asked him.
He's been trying for years to get a jersey swap
but from Russell Wilson, and Russell Wilson won't give it
to him. And they asked him again and he goes,
I'm done asking him, And to be honest with you,
I don't want it anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Pete, what would you be willing to pay for Russell
wilson jersey?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Let's see tuna on Rye? Oh wow, I mean yeah,
I'll give you. Maybe I'll throw in I'll throw in
keys on that sandwich. Wrap it up nice?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Have you put a tomato on there?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah? Well, y'all put some tomato on there and freshing
up the sandwich nights. Back to the Chiefs, Back to
the Chiefs. Look, they played great defense and Russell Wilson
helped them. They'll get me wrong, but their offense has
major problems still they you know they And does last
night cover up the deficiencies in the offense? No, they
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got he got pressured all night. The offensive line didn't
play well. Again, they don't run the ball consistently, and
they don't have many threats in the passing game. So, Brady,
I'm still worried about their offense. Will they when they
get Worthy back, when they get Rice back, does that
change the offense? Absolutely, But that's going to be you know,
Worthy might be back this week, maybe next week, and
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it's going to be a couple more weeks for Rushie
Rice until they get those guys back, that offense is
very limited.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Can I tell you what they need?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
They need to run the damn ball like they need
to have a consistent running game and team right now
are the charges in their division with who like?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
But Jecko doesn't look like he did before the injury,
and Kareem Hunt looks like he's gaining twenty two yards
to Game four. I mean they were who they running
it with. They got maybe they got to play Smith,
But the problem is he probably a great enough fairs protection.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yet I'm just football.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That team has no juice in the run game, none. Zero.
That's why I think Smith would give him the best option,
because he does have a little bit of juice. And
you see, and he's starting to play a little bit
more and more. But Checko doesn't. Since he's come back
from injury, it.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Looked like the same guy as he He doesn't have
to look like the same guy for them to be
effective running the ball, though. He's just got it. They
gotta they gotta be affected.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
They can pitch the ball. They could pitch the ball
to you and let run run the running back. The
running back matters.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It does matter. You said, you acting like for Checo
can't do it.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He can do it.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
He's just not the same guy. He's not being the
same guy. And dream Hunts of you know, Cream Hunts,
one of those guys that turns two yard runs into
five yard runs and turns twenty yard runs into five
yard runs. That's who he is.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I want to do an Oklahoma drill with you, Pete.
That's what that's what I will do. How about that,
Pitch me the ball and do Oklahoma with you.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
I'll root you out of the hole. I'll root you out.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah, all right, already I got got one good rep
left in me. Pete, just for you, though, Pete, Uh, Pete, yes, sir,
excellent as always.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I'm not shy to uh to share your opinions on
Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
It's a hater, hater, Peter var I'm a realist.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
And everybody else just you know, blow smoke everybody up,
everybody's behind. Oh god, Arnold Kenny is better than Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Hey, Pete, by the way, by the way, Oregon, Penn State,
who you got this week winning that one?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
You know who he's got?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Go ahead, hater, Well, it's all going to show up
as a robotis are going to play quarterback? I gotta
figure that.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
He's been he's been bad this year. Man, it's a
verse bad time he's gotten.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
He's gotten worse, He's gotten worse.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I'm not going to sit here allow for y'all to
do that, like take us the break, John's true. Let's
talk about Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Let's not talk about let's not talk about gotta win.
I don't know what it seems.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Finally, I could care less who you play. Y'all got.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
One win?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Isn't the game at Penn State?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yes, and it's the wide out.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah yeah, that sounds like another top top five.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
To see us.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Go get him on Act Frisco CBS.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Pete.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I always appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
We already last year.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, eaked one out on Fox Sports Radio and then
winning loss to another.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
I would say my quarterback right now over your quarterback
any day.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
That's fine. And I'll take my quarterback over your quarterback
any day. And we're undefeated.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
You're struggling, Rose colored classes off.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You struggled. Ease, leave Drew Aller to me, she got
leave Drew Aller to me.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
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