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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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We're also going to have a conversation about oh to
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We're gonna also talk about the quarterback change in New
York with the Giants. We're going to talk about the
big game coming up in State College and whether or
not you want to stay at a Super eight or
a what is it a super skate a skate eight,
whatever you want.
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To call it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, that too. We're going to talk about all that
fun stuff and the usual shenanigans.
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It's all yours.
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we welcome in the old p Petros Papadakis. He is
the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which
you can hear on the Blowtorch AM five to seventy
LA Sports, a Fox College football analyst and our good
buddy Pe Good morning, Hello, Hey Pete.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
What up?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Good morning everybody? Hello? Listen to your game? Oh thanks,
it was a barn burner.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, it was a nice, good game, a lot of penalties.
You're having a good time with it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hard to have a lot of rhythm with so many penalties.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, but you call a good game literally.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Twenty penalties and then four four that were offsetting, and
then two that were declined. So twenty six penalties is
a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I got to start taking notes when I watch your games,
because you'd be saying some pretty interesting stuff and I'll
be like, Oh, I want to bring that up to
him on the show.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But right now, it's slipping me those two. It's me too. Yeah,
it's slipping me into what you said next.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But man, running back should be on a national show.
The one thing about that game that should be mentioned
is that that kid, Robert Henry Junior is like the
Ashton Gentee of this year.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
He is.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
He's leading the nation and rushing. He's home run hitting
with seventy yard carries. He had one hundred yards in
the first half against Texas A and M and two
hundred overall, a seventy yard run right at the beginning
of the third quarter. He's a pretty special player, a
JC guy who got that once. The kid Pavia at
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Vanderbilt did the lawsuit to get his JC years back.
This guy was like, hey, I could do that too,
and came back and is playing one more year at UTSA,
and he is. He is pretty spectacular. But other than that,
I have two weeks off now because Fox has fewer
games with a lot of baseball stuff in the next
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two Saturdays, I guess, so I am off for two
weeks just sitting there. I am available to be hired
if anybody wants me to put on like a clown
outfit and come to their kid's birthday or something.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Well you think that this means for Norvale? You know,
like that that's that's probably Yeah, they probably needed to
win that game, right, They didn't need to lose that
game that way. I mean the way you think. Does
you know, does that put him on a hot seat?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I mean they still have the Mountain West season to
play and there's a lot but you know, their quarterback
got benched. They benched their quarterback, and then they just
decided that the starter's not not the starter anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
The backup is going to be the starter.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And he made a pretty rough decision there on the
two point conversion at the very end. But I think
they believe in him. He's improved them year in and
year out since they hired him. And Colorado State is
they have some good resources, they have a good stadium,
they have a great student section, they have a lot
of support, a little bit like Utah State in the
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Mountain West moving over to the PAC twelve. So, but
it is an interesting question. We'll have to see how
the rest of the year goes. It's still just September, guys.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I know, yes, sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
No, I said, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Thoughts on the on the Doyers and it feels like
the the NL West is still up for grabs at
this point is less than ideal.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Have I ever told you guys about the Costco.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Hoang we talked to about to Super eight today.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Do you guys know the Costco ho No?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Jonas knows her like this is a real Yeah, she's
an Asian girl. I didn't get her real name on Instagram,
but she's an Asian.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Are you saying that's her real last name or you?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
She calls herself the Costco Ho and she goes to
Costco and talks about all the deals and then at
the end she does like a squat down to the
ground like a stripper.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, I know who you're I've seen her on social
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about. I know
exactly who you're talking She's.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
An attractive Asian only fans type, right. And then she's
like there in the Costco isles and she talks about
the different deals at Costco and at the very end
she goes, you can pull up the Costco ho.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
We have.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
We have plenty of Costco host sound bites on the.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Show, Brandy, do we have Costco ho in?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
They allpse cat or something as their lame I forget anyway,
I'm here to answer questions. The Dodgers, Yes, are struggling.
The bullpen is terrible. Other than that, they seem like
a pretty good team. Their starting pitchers are great, they
have a great offense, they have a great lineup. Otani
pitched beautifully last night, six scoreless innings. I think that's
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the longest he's gone in a game. Then the bullpen
came in and blew it again. So yeah, they haven't
clinched the NLS. They're gonna play in the Wildcard. So
a week from yesterday, the Dodgers will be playing in
the Wildcard and it'll be interesting to see if they
flip a playoff switch or if none of these guys
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in the bullpen. I mean, they have so many starters
like Emmitt Sheehan and people like that, and even Otani.
If they don't use their bullpen in the playoffs, they
just use different starters to come in, maybe they'll have
a different outcome.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
All these guys they signed in the offseason for a
lot of money have been abject failures. Kirby Yates and
Tanner Scott and Dodger fans are worried about it. How
much do they get to be worried after winning the
World Series last year and having their twenty million person
parade and fully blowing their wad last November Jumps?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
What tank Well Jonas is really pent up over here?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Is he tanks?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
A hostage crisis.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Going on with He's like that Colorado State mascot we
were talking about last.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Week Rested Warriors, a real hostage crisis cam the Ram.
We got a lot of cam the Ram in in
the game. At least we got that in and we
did it, and we did a cam the Ram versus
a Roadrunner ramit speed comparison, and rams are faster than
road runners.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Believe it or not, tang they are.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, I would never think that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
No, we didn't either. That's why we looked it up
and we had the speed comparison. Late night football's got
it all.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
But wait, is that what jump the bare different from
you early morning guys that it does include the ball? Say,
dang hey, Petro's back to the Dodgers. What would Joe
Davis have to say about the Dodgers right now?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
What are you asking me to analyze? I don't like that.
What would he say? I don't know. It's the matter
with He's just curious. I've been able to watch it.
I'm not saying anything bad about Joe anymore because he
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was nice to me at the Fox seminar.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
I do I do want to ask you about in
all seriousness, because the timing of all this seems rather odd.
I mean, obviously they were bad last year. It's been
not been a good start so far this year. You
know they weren't that bad two years ago. You know,
their top twenty team. Why now in your mind? And
then also, I guess what's the outlook for that program?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Which one Oklahoma State, Oh my pokes. Yeah, it's hard
to imagine them without Mike Gundhy as the coach, right,
because like I think about Oklahoma State and you think
about I used to think about two things, Barry Sanders
and Thurman Thomas.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'd never been to Stillwater. I didn't know anything about it,
and you just thought about those two running backs.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And I don't know what it.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Was twenty years ago, what would that have been two
thousand and five did he become the head coach? And
it wasn't on my radar, And I guess it just
kind of start. I went out there like three or
four times and did games at t boone Pickings and
talked to Gundhy and kind of understood the where they
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had Mason Rudolph. Different guy over the years, and it's
hard to imagine somebody having more success at a more
obscure place for that long of a time. And that
really should be commended. He was a great character of
the game. They I don't think had a real easy
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time adapting with the modern the very quick modern changes
that happened in college football in the last few years.
But he should be commended. I mean, the guy ran
a great program and a successful.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Program for a long time.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Would he been able to do that anywhere else, I'm
not sure. I mean, he can coach somewhere else and
it'll be interesting to see. But I mean he was
literally only out of Stillwater after being the quarterback there
for like two or three years of his life with
Ralph Frigen in Maryland.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Or something like that, the Fridge.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So this is a guy who's, you know, his lifelong
cowboy and did a lot of great things at his
alma mater. Maybe he didn't get along with everybody very well.
Remember there used to be like a power struggle between
him and Tea Boone Pickens when he was alive.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Do you remember that. So that was a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But overall, I think, you know, once the dust settles
that people should remember this was a great football coach
at his alma mater, and I don't think anybody could
ever have more success, more sustained success at that place.
Now they have money, more money than a lot of people,
and which is kind of ironic to hear him complain
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about other people having money, because you're playing people that
have less money. But either way, Mike Gundy was a
great character of the game. He had a giant tortoise
or still does that lives on his property somewhere in
still Water. So just you know in the weird haircut when.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
He makes then set a place like Ucla, Like, did
you see him taking a job like that?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I don't know, you know, it's so hard to imagine.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Like I used to be able to answer that question
about Mike Leach, right, like everybody'd be like any job
that came up over the years when Mike Leach was
a thing, everybody was like, well, you got to hire
Mike Leach. It's like Tennessee or Ucla, and it's like, guys,
he's going to show up in a polo smelling ripe
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to a black tie dinner an hour late. You know
he's gonna Now that works at Washington State, That's okay,
that's the furthest out post of the Pac ten or
twelve at the time. He works at Lubbock, which was
the furthest out outpost of the Big twelve at the time,
and SEC Stark, Vegas, which is the furthest out post
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of the SEC at the time. But to work somewhere
where you're expected to maybe be a little bit different
than who you are deep down was going to be
difficult for him.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I don't know if that's the same with Michael, with
Mike Gundy. Only because it's been so long, right that
he's not coached anywhere else for so long. He's used
to being in this little kingdom where he played quarterback
and where people he could say, well, where are you
gonna go? If you don't like it?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I can't. I can't picture him anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, it's hard to it's hard to U c l A.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I'd rather they hire an Ogeron and watch him explode
the city of Los Angeles try to recruit and freak
out and attack Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
He would be too much, don't you think energy wise
like persona wise for likel like UCLA gives me like real,
real yuppie type vibes man like, no.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Doubt it's a chardonnay crowd. But maybe they need to
change that up, you know. They changed it up with
Jim Mora and he had some success.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
He eventually became guy a little yup to him though
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He coun he can fit that that, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, well that's you know Ultimately that was the reason
that Pat, I mean Pat Hayden hired Clay Helton to
be a usc head coach. He hired a Steve Sarkisian
whose life was nowhere near in shape to be a
head coach, and everybody knew it, you know, But Pat
Hayden hired those guys and he didn't hire it is. Yeah,
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he didn't hire at Ogeron because that Ogeron doesn't have
a golf bag in his trunk, you know. I mean
that's true. I mean that that's ancient history, but it's true.
So somebody already has a between his secret.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Titleist.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I mean, but but you know, somebody already a big
stack of balloons you take to like a birthday party.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
That with.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
All I'm saying is us he already ignored at Ojeron
because he wasn't enough of a yuppie, and uh, they
probably he should have hired him. I don't know if
he'll get the UCLA job. He does have some baggage,
but I certainly think they should look into him because
somebody that could blow up and recruit La and change her.
(15:13):
They need to change a landscape. I mean, they need
to make a move and do something differently than what
they've been doing, and I think they will play better.
They might even win against Northwestern on Saturday. I think
they'll respond better with Tim Skipper as the as the
interim coach.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
You mentioned USC, they they're looking pretty impressive. Man, Like,
where you where do you stand on this? Like has
the experiment started to pay dividends with what's going on there?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well? What are we experimenting with the head coach?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Maybe? Well, they won two games against teams that they
that they really should have dominated, and they did. They
dominated Georgia Southern and they dominated Missouri State. They went
on the road and played a per new team. That's
it has a new coach, is getting better. But road
games are hard. Road conference games are harder. The first
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road conference game of the year is really hard. And
they passed that test and West Lafayette whatever you think
about that Purdue team, but Michigan State is improved.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I thought that was a quality win.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, Michigan State is an improved team.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Sure, they were playing eight o'clock at night, you know,
eleven o'clock at night, Eastern time, deep into the morning.
They had a guy carted off the field for a
scary injury and all that, But I think last year's
USC team loses to that Michigan State team this year
in the same circumstance, So Jade and Mayava, you could say,
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And right now he looks like the most improved player
from last year to this year on any team as
a quarterback. They put together a good defensive staff with
Dean Lynn, who people want to be hired for the
UCLA head coaching job, and Rob Ryan, of course we
all know him, the linebacker coach, so they look a
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lot better.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
What's it going to look like when Brady's there at
Big Noon in Illinois after Illinois was physically desecrated by
Indiana last week, which is not ideal for anybody going forward,
But I don't know. I mean, once they get out
on the road and face a little adversity and see
if they can overcome that adversity, it'll be interesting. They're undisciplined.
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They had ten penalties on Saturday night against Michigan State.
My prop bet over was nine and a half. Oh
I hit that, But yeah, US season proved. I think
most people would have looked at their schedule and said, yeah,
they'll be four and zero to start the season. But
they look pretty good. And the two receivers if Jacobe
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Lane is going to come back and Mackay Lemon have
been spectacular. So you got to do what what do
they say? Give you s see their flowers. They've had
a great September. But it's not over yet, and we'll
see what happens, you know, when it gets cold and
when they get out on the road and start playing
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in conference games. They'll be a little bit more of
a sample size to judge. But yeah, they're better than
I thought they would be, although I probably would.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Have guessed they'd be undefeated at this point.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
But that that's a much better you have to say.
Eight And Childs too, is one of the most improved
quarterbacks in.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The country from last year to this year. Do you
think they can continue it? Like?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
What what chance do you give them in like this
whole Big ten hunt?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I mean, how many how many slots does the Big
Ten get in the playoff?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Twenty six? Okay, they'll make it six maybe seven? Right?
Q six maybe seven? Six?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I think they'll get four teams.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
In this year.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Four.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I mean, I mean, if they if the Big Ten
gets four teams in this year, and the way USC
schedule plays out, they might have a chance, but they
have to improve every week, and I've not seen that
under Lincoln Riley USC team yet.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So you don't think they make the playoff.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
If I had to guess right now, I just I'd
stick to my story and say no. But they certainly
look a lot better than they used to.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean, right when I thought you were turning the
corner and starting to really have some love for Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Well you're gonna sit here and put my feet to
the fire like a broadwurst.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I mean, yeah, I don't those are very good about
away with uh? With with mustard?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
My estimation, Petros, we're having a delibuster.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
We're yeah, yellow mustard. Would you be okay with it?
Fine with me? Maybe some onions, And I'm not a
finicky man.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Although I don't enjoy ketchup on a sausage or a
hot dog, I find that to be Communist and Unamerica.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Huh, Petros, we were having a discussion earlier about the sausage,
Super eight, Super eights and Motel sixes. Where do you
stand on those as hotels?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What are they used for? Are you willing to stay
in one of those or just use one of those?
I mean, it's a legit question.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Come up, Remember, how do we get in this com
because I got booked, so I late booked for a
white out, white out weekend.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, this is okay. This is one of those things
where you can't get a room in a college.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
And the only hotel left with one room available was
the Skate eight, And I said, I just can't do
that just because of what it has represented to me
in the past.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
That was where the conversation came from.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
So you're not going to the way, Oh no, I'm
going I just anb no.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Because they're they're not available either. I just I'm going
to drive in from Harrisburg. So I'm stay in Harrisburg
where there's room availability and sensible rates for a room.
I mean, can you imagine this. A Skate eight room
is going for eight hundred dollars a night. Wow, a
skate eight super eight, that's what they're called. Why do
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they call them skate I do not know.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, I've had to do some things, you know, in
this similar regard. I think I had to stay at
a hotel like that in Pullman once or twice, or
outside in Moscow in Idaho, outside of Pullman because we
got an Apple cup late in the year and then
the rooms are already been booked for three four months, right,
and you get that game assignment late in the year
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and they can't put you anywhere else. So yeah, I'm
been war I.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Want to go through. Like what Jonas asked you though,
like do you have history with like Motel sixes or
skate eights Because Loraina jumped in there and was like
she jumped in there pretty quickly and was like, hey, listen,
that's that's all my hotels list.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's a very normal place to stay. There you go,
And I said, wow, that that's you know.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
We have all kinds of flop hotels. In fact, I
grew up where my family owned. I guess you would
call them like slum hotels. My grandfather did, my great
grandfather did in sam Pedro, the LaSalle Hotel, the Cabrio Hotel,
the West Hotel, and these hotels were eight dollars a night,
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oh yeah, and they had one bathroom.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
On every floor. What were they four.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
People that were down and out.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
And that's a very serious like hookers, that's what we were.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I mean, these are people, you know, I mean people
who have fallen through the cracks of society.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The room key had had the room number attached to
it on a little key chain.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You know. I just remember running around, like when I
was eight or nine, you know, picking up whatever, you know,
go get the bag of money from the lobby of
this hotel and run it back to the restaurant and.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
So my my flop hotel experience goes maybe a little
bit deeper that then Loraina with her slippers on, headed
to the vending machine at the Super eight.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Slippers is a nice touch thereat, but generally could be barefoot.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I do remember being lined up at the at the
vending machine at the Poloosee End, you know, trying to
get like trying to get a bottled water to pour
into my sleep mask.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Oh, no filter.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Over the years, But I will say this now that
I'm like, I'm almost I'm forty eight, and I don't
travel as much as I used to. But the the
I used to wonder, like why the broadcasters, like the
older broadcasters were always bitching about the hotel or the
car service or whatever. But now that I'm a little
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older and a little bit more finicky. I I do
understand that a little bit more. I would not appreciate
being put in a motel six to call a football game.
That being said, that sounds you know, when you say
it out of your mouth, you sound like a huge
a hole.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Yeah, but you don't, especially if you know the history
of it. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I mean, if paying for it, that you do not do.
That I would do.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Is stay at Gettysburg and miss the game and be
dressed up like a Union soldier.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, if you're LaVar Rington, you're not saying it.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Told the line boys just run around around. There's a
cold sweat, screaming at the ghosts.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
He's got a musket in where the battlefields are.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's what I would if I was in that part
of the world.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
That's what I would want to do. Go to Gettysburg.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Huh uh huh.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's overrated experience.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Man, That's fine with me, all right, you'd enjoy it.
I want to sit at the Devil's Den. I want
to go to Little Roundtop. I want to go to
Big Roundtop. I want to go to the Peach Orchard.
I want to go to the Bloody angle. I want
to go to that. I want to go to Betty Gettysburg,
the Bloody Angle. Well, there's two bloody angles. One one
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was a spot in the battlefield I think in Cold Harbor,
which was just in the overland campaign, which was after Gettysburg,
which was just a horrible massacre that was unnecessary. And
the Bloody Angle in Gettysburg is the highest point that
I forget the guy's name, but a guy put his
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ran a bunch of dudes up during pickets charge on
the third day at Gettysburg. And that's the highest point
or the lowest point. And anyway, that's the furthest the
South ever got into the north and they got over
a wall and they commandeered a gun. They turned the
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was no ammunition in the gun left and they got
absolutely pummeled and killed. But that's the Bloody Angle. So
that's the highest point of the South advance.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
That's interesting because it's not very far from the South.
It's like right there right.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Well, that's what Gettysburg is.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, that's why Gettysburg is so neat because the south
was so far to the north. And if they get
by the Army of Potomac in the north there, that
means they marched to Washington, because there's no other army
up there. So if they get by the Army of
the Potomac, they marched to Washington and they signed their
treaty and they get seceession. So that was a pretty
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Also, I also want to see the the mountain with
the President's faces on.
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And I think we're here. We got here naturally.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
If he just stopped after Seattle, he's a Hall of
Famer everything since then you feel like that disqualifies him
from being I don't know that it disqualifies him, but
I think think it changes the conversation about him.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Dang. Like if you look at.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
What weird thing was is when you asked if this
has happened before? Like, what do you mean in that context?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Well, I mean where you see a guy leave an
organization willingly, like wanted to go elsewhere, wanted to pursue
something else.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
And it run its course and then just ends up bouncing.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Around and being Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
He's on his second team now, truth, and he hasn't
played anywhere close to how he.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Played in Green Bad Truth.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Okay, But like, like if you would you had said
it was interesting, you had said, like, has this happen before?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
We talked about this.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
And I would argue that it's actually happened a bajillion times.
I mean as far as a guy who he looked
at as a Hall of Famer getting pushed out and
if he did go somewhere else, like what it looked like.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
That's one.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
You know, you could throw Rogers that compensation and I
didn't have the success and San frank but those kinds
he was good.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, he was good.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
But I would say Joe Flacco, who was a Super
Bowl winner, super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Okay, but you know he'd been in a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
But Russell Wilson was I think thirty two, Like, it's
not like he was at the end. And those guys,
I think everybody looked at and said, well, they got
a couple of years left.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
We also look at that a lot different too, like
we we hear that now and we look at that
the way you just said. But yeah, that actually used
to be a lot closer to the end back then
than it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
I mean, Montana left. I mean, granted he played for.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
A long time in San Francisco, but there's other guys
who you know, the guys are first off, guys are
getting in the league earlier, not later. He used to be,
guys would stay an extra year. There are guys coming
in at twenty one years old, now twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Montana left at thirty six.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
He was thirty six, thirty seven, But you can.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
But I mean, I think obviously Rogers was up there
in age right, he left around what thirty seven, thirty eight?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, Tom Brady was up there. I just Russ feels
like the one that you looked at and go, well,
there's tread on the tires. That's why Denver gave him
the deal.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
They gave him.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
But that's what's screwed him. You want to know what's
screwed him. It's not that he's not playing up to standard.
It's that I believe people really got turned off by
the way he was covered and the way things were
reported on him when he went to Denver.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, I think that's by.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
The way he went to Denver at thirty four.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
I think the narrative coming out of Seattle, where you
had some teammates kind of turning on him, saying that,
you know, it was about the Legion of Boom and
it was about Marson Lynch, not Russell Wilson, which is okay,
we can debate that. Look at his body of work.
Russell Wilson they called, you know, big play Russ, danger, dangerous,
(36:54):
danger Russ. But when he went to Denver, it did
not even have to do with what he did on
the field. That started to deteriorate the way people looked
at him. It was the shiny suits going to the prom.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It was the.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
Office space, to have your own office in the building.
It was those things that.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
To me, what about from three to one crap closet
to bedroom ratio at his house.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
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Speaker 4 (37:27):
I'm still ticked off about this, guys.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
It was it was the go to guys and tell
them bad for the haller, run holler pass buyer.
Speaker 6 (37:36):
Think about the next buyer right like, you're gonna look
at that house be like, what the hell am I
going to do?
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Speaker 6 (37:42):
You're sitting twenty thousand square feet with twelve bathrooms at
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Speaker 3 (37:46):
You got all these restrooms in your house.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
The house for horses, Like, who's going to live in there?
Speaker 5 (37:51):
And you're telling them to make sure you wash your
hands and call out running pass while you're on the side.
I think that deteriorated the man's reputation.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I'm telling you there's gonna be Hall of Fame voters
that are just gonna go look up realtor dot com
and be like, yeah, we're out.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
That's uh.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
If he bought that, I would Who would buy and
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that many bathrooms.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
We just can't do it, can't do it, won't do it.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Like many super but never thirty four.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
So it's not that far off from those other two guys.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
And I understand what you're saying, but like if you
look at most players there, they drop off after thirty.
Now granted he's he's one where it changed a lot
once he got the Denvert, and we can we can
go into like, I mean, just how ridiculous that first
season was.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Like I don't know that that's all on him.
Speaker 6 (38:49):
For Nathaniel Hackett, that season, like that was an absolute
disaster in every way, shape and form. He was a
part of it, But it's also on Nathaniel Hacket. Think
about how bad and ridiculous that was.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
And it started the first game was against Seattle. Remember
there was the clock management issue, and that was on
Monday night.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Did they hire a guy?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
They had to hire someone to come in and be
the clock management guy, because at no point when they
were he was hiring his staff, he.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Was like, Hey, maybe I should have a guy who
helps out with this.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
It's not stop being great.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
They want to talk about like there's been I guess
I would say this in the last decade, there has
been two decisions that I was like, Wow, that is
if I'm ownership, I might be firing myself from making
a decision the rest of the time because this is
ridiculous that no one thought of this that, And like
after the fact, after having a game like that, being like, man,
(39:43):
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there and helps us with like the clock and the decisions.
And then probably Bill Belichick making Matt Patricia off it's
a coordinating Oh yeah, along with Joe Judges like those two,
Like putting those two in that position, that whole situation
and everyone being like, yeah, this is totally normal. I
was like, Wow, they're really gonna do this.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
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If an offensive coordator came over, it's like, yeah, I'm
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Speaker 4 (40:17):
You've never done it before, but you're just you think you're.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
Just gonna walk in the NFL and go, yeah, I'm
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It's perfect, all right, Jonas, all right, t switch?
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Oh and three team you're riding with? Which is your
ride or dive?
Speaker 2 (48:47):
All right?
Speaker 1 (48:47):
So, uh, I want to I want to preface this
by saying this isn't going to happen. But if it
were going to happen, let me sell you on the
Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 11 (49:00):
Loss.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
Now, they have been the butt of many.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Jokes on this show, and to be right, I would
say that their fan base handles it a little better
than the Bengals do.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
The problem is, I'm not sure that we know very
many Dolphins fans. I know one, and you can't tell
them anything about the organization. But I look at this
organization and I go, all right, we understand the end
is near. It seems like for Mike McDaniel, we understand
that they're own three and the chances are slim they're going.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
To make a run of this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
But if you look at their three losses, Indianapolis put
them in a clown suit. I don't think anybody saw
that coming. But upon further review. Indianapolis is much better
than people expected. They've punched once on the year New England.
They should have won that game, all right, Special teams,
gaffes that sort of slipped through their hands. And then
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they go at Buffalo on a short week and they
were competitive, and you can argue, if not for the
interception by Tua, maybe that game turns out a little
bit differently. The final score not really indicative of what
that game look like. On their schedule remaining, you've got
the Jets who are awful, the Panthers who aren't very good.
You do have the Chargers mixed in there, but you've
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got Cleveland, You've got Atlanta, who the hell knows what's
going on with Atlanta. They've got coaching changes and guys
moving from the booth down on the field. There's a
winnable set of games for the Miami Dolphins down the stretch,
New Orleans, the Jets again, the Bengals are probably still
going to have a backup quarterback at that time. You're
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going to close with New England. And I'll say this
the AFC East. I thought New England would be better
than they are.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
They're not.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Miami's got a decent shot at making something of this year.
Is it going to happen? Probably not. But if I've
got to sell you on one team, I look at
a team who's probably of all the own three teams
outside of Houston, got the best quarterback of the bunch.
It's two a tongue by Loa and the Miami Dolphins
potentially making a run.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
Well done, we're out of applause, Well, Doug, oh, well done?
Speaker 5 (51:05):
Yeonas I'm gonna take the Houston Texans sticks picks. They've
been here before this and this is a very simple explanation.
They've been here before. They're well versed on it. Their
offense has not played well yet this season three games in,
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and they have a very healthy amount of quarters that
they have not scored points. The positive is is that
they really kind of look rock bottom on the way
that they're playing offense right now. And I think that
there should be a little bit more time, a little
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bit more buy in in terms of confidence for CJ.
Stroud to be able to start playing better. And if
he does, I would say that that would vote very
well for this team because their defense has played very well.
Think about it. The Rams game they were in it
could have been able to win the game. You're talking
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about a fourteen to nine win. That is a very
low scoring affair, and your defense has put you in
position to win that game. The same exists with the
Buccaneers game where the Buccaneers were able to muster a
very very average twenty points and exactly the same type
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of story in the Jacksonville Jaguars game where they were
able to muster a staggering seventeen points in the game.
Speaker 3 (52:42):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (52:42):
So to me, when I look at this Houston Texans team,
if I'm looking at the positives of this, sure you're
zero to three, but your one good game of getting CJ.
Stroud in this offense back on track. And if that defense,
which has shown that they can be consistent and the
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limiting of what offenses are able to do output wise
against them, they should be able to put together a
nice string of victories that if they take it one
game at a time, they can climb back to five hundred.
And if this team feasibly that can climb back to
five hundred within their schedule, especially the division that they
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reside in, they have a strong opportunity of finishing and
being right there where they need to be in a
division where we've seen a team that actually that is
leading the division.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
They could take a nosed dive. It's possible that they
could could fall off the cliff and what they're.
Speaker 5 (53:53):
You know, what their accomplishments and their wins look like
as well. So it could be a seesaw shift for
this division and it could be the Houston Texans that
make a strong push to be that.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
Yeah, well done, well done, hanging through God's work.
Speaker 5 (54:08):
Talk about that's just the snails trail right there, that's all.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
I'll take a snail trail. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (54:16):
All right, Well, as we uh maybe foreshadowed in a way,
I'd let you guys pick first.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
So you guys took two of the teams I think
were decent options. But I've got one for you.
Speaker 6 (54:27):
I've got a team that there's kind of a love
hate relationship probably with me and UH in this particular organization,
I would say probably more hate towards me than love.
Speaker 4 (54:38):
But I digress. I told this fan base back when
Zach Wilson was the quarterback that would stink.
Speaker 6 (54:43):
They didn't listen. They got upset about it. I haven't
donated some money to charity. But you know what happened
in the end, I was right. They didn't take to
that very well. Then I told them I was I
was behind them.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
I was rude for them.
Speaker 6 (54:54):
When Aaron Rodgers got there, well he got hurt, kind
of threw a wrench in the entire thing there in
New York.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
But I'm back.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
I'm back with you, you New York Jets. That's right.
So we're going to see you do a celebration down
the side line too. Huh oh.
Speaker 6 (55:12):
I'll be jotted, hip thrusting, doing all kinds of motions
and things like I'm on soul train. But if you
really think about it, all right, this is the schedule
they've played so far. Pittsburgh, Buffalo at Tampa. Those are
three of the best teams in the NFL, two of
which they could have beaten. You could make the case
they could have beaten the Pittsburgh Steelers week one. They
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probably could have should have, you know, maybe beaten the
Bucks the way everything worked out last week, all right
down in Tampa. Now, the Buffalo game got away from him.
Full disclosure on that. I would admit that Buffalo's a
little bit ahead of him right now. But going to
Miami to play that hopeless team at this moment. All right,
you got a Dallas Cowboys defense after that that's letting
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anyone walk in the door like a like a super eight.
And you've got a Broncos team struggled thus far, but
the Panthers then a backup quarterback in Cincinnati with with
Jake Browning a bye week before you play the Browns.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
This thing sets up for the Jets to.
Speaker 6 (56:10):
Climb back out of the cellar, all right, crawl off
that Motel six bed like some bed bugs. So New
York Jets, brown don't feel like the lonsome loser, all right,
they don't feel like the loadsome loser you got. You
got a shot, You got a chance. Whether it's Tarad
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Taylor or Justin Fields. I hope that proounced to Rod. Right,
it doesn't matter. This team can run the football, they
play good defense. The passing game needs to improve.
Speaker 4 (56:40):
But you got a shot, and it starts this week
against the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 6 (56:48):
Against Levar's guy, which what's what what's he gonna say
after this game, LeVar?
Speaker 5 (56:52):
If the Jets beat the Dolphins. If the Jets beat
the Dolphins, I don't know what you what do you think,
can I Mike McDaniels, I don't know. Well, I knew
it was a where we could climb back into it.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
So so really it all comes down to I knew
we were right here at it. So Brady and.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Ice Picks are facing off this week, so a lot
of it's going to be uh, a lot of the
hope is going to die this weekend.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
This week.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
I knew that week.
Speaker 4 (57:25):
You're one hard hit on two away from basically dying.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
That thing that's really uh, nerve wracking to think about. Yeah,
that's that's already off the rails.
Speaker 4 (57:36):
I got Dolphins fans reaching out to me right now
as we talk about their team.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
So your team stinked. I mean I was stunned to see.
I was stunn to see nobody pick New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Nobody wanted to Nobody picked that's like the guy who
that's like the guy who's so guilty that no lawyer
or lawyer or represent him.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Like, now, listen, we got no shot.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
They are.
Speaker 6 (58:03):
But can I tell you why didn't pick them? Because
I almost went the other way, but then I was like,
here's the deal. We haven't seen Jackson darr yet. But
I don't think Jackson, darr or even the quarterback positions
the issues there. I think they're going to continue to
struggle regardless of who's in that quarterback. Look, defensively, they're good.
They might get that little pop because they've got a
younger guy in there. Everyone's excited, blah blah blah. I
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just I have a hard time believing they're gonna be
able to turn this thing around this year.
Speaker 3 (58:27):
I do.
Speaker 5 (58:28):
Weren't they like some long field goal kicks away from
beating Dallas in a big game. I felt like that
could have had a major impact on the early part
of their season if they get that dub and it
looked like they were about.
Speaker 3 (58:40):
To get it. The same thing for the Jets. If
the Jets, well, the Jets have had.
Speaker 5 (58:46):
Yeah, they've had some heartbreakers. I mean listen, like those
those celebrations didn't age well. You know, Coach Glenn was
like bulking up, bucking up against the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (58:59):
Look at those hips, man, I was like, damn, back
out there in the secondary. He still got it runs through.
He needed to give some those hips for that for
that Super eight.
Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, my left hips get up in there. My left
hips getting worse didn't Liner get two hips done? You
get his hips replace this week this offseason?
Speaker 3 (59:21):
Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
Yeah, I think the soft season.
Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (59:25):
Oh, I've heard when you get your hips replaced, what
are you doing that for? Is it for hip thresting or.
Speaker 4 (59:32):
Is it just for wa functionality? I think it's yeah,
I think it's for general general movement.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
And Andy Furman told me he got his done, and
you're walking that day like you're up and out of
the bed walking that day on new hips.
Speaker 3 (59:44):
Really, yeah, yeah, they've already told me. Yeah, there's like
in my left hip.
Speaker 5 (59:50):
They look said, sir, you've been so active on this hip.
You need to do on just the left side. Huh Yeah,
how does that work? So when I you're not balanced?
And how you hip thrust?
Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
When I when I dislocated my kneecap, it threw off,
It threw off which kneecap?
Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
You act like that one injury has like plagued your
because it did.
Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
I imagine all the other dude, imagine all the other
athletes out there who have like other serious injuries and
then they're like dealing with.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
The rest of By the way, that's the nicest thing
he's ever said. All the other apps, all the other athletes.
Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Yeah, he did say that. I was I was perplexed
when he said it.
Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
I ain't gonna lie. I was like, wait, other athletes, Damn.
I tuned out the rest of it. I didn't even
hear the rest of it. Like the other athletes.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
We talked about the same game. What did you just say?
All right, okay, Damn.
Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
That totally disqualified his pick for the New York By
the way, all you Jets fans out there, I was
okay with radwi Q until he's hit all the other athletes.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Referring to Don jonas, I need a hip replacement from
all the appletes.
Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
I donated like five hundred dollars. I think I donated
one hundred dollars to different charities that year because yeah,
because the Jets fans there's like people were outraged and
there were such big Zach Wilson fans. I'm like, dude,
I'm sorry, I just don't get it. He needs development.
He's not ready yet. And like everyone took issue with that,
(01:01:21):
and I was like, all, I bet, like, what's there
over under on unwins where I was like, I'll give
one hundred bucks to a charity for every single win
they get, and I think they got to like five
and then Jetson's like, oh yeah, and I was like, yeah,
I'm legitimately donating to various New York charitable organizations and
then it stopped, you know a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
You know what I don't understand is the people didn't
think that it's an attack on the player as opposed
to know the situation they're in. Because if you remember
that offseason two, their quarterback coach died. He was in
a bike accident, died right before the year, So they
had that going into the season and then Zach Wilson
gets out there and like what did he have to
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work with? And so if you're making an assessment on hey,
this guy's been put in a crap spot. It's not
going to be ideal for his development, somebody comes out, Oh,
why you.
Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Such a hater? It's what are you talking about? Like
this is the reality? Because I am a hater.
Speaker 6 (01:02:15):
There was There was a lot though that went into
it because I said during the draft process, like I
didn't Zach Wilson, I didn't have him as like a
top five quarterback in that class and him as like
the sixth, and the reason being is every time I
watched him that year, because I was during the COVID
year they were playing its lesser opponents. He would sit
back in the pocket and have all day to throw,
and then when he did throw, he would throw into
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like a team meeting where they've got a twenty six
year old dude who's playing wide receiver, who's just like
would Moss this lesser opponent they're going up against over
two dudes, And I'm like, yeah, that's not translatable to
the NFL, and people had issues with that. I'm like,
he doesn't throw with a sense of anticipation. You know,
a lot of the big plays you're watching, you're like,
it's kind of like broke down plays that doesn't really
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work within the confine of an offense. And they were
a team that was playing against a group of five,
you know, teams. So I was like, yeah, this isn't like,
this isn't good. And I went back and watched the
years before, and I'm like, I see upside, but I
just don't see a guy who's ready to walk in
right now and start. And when you take a guy
number two overall, that's what you're singing to your fan base,
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and that's what they kind of tried to do. So again,
it wasn't anything against him. It's not that he doesn't
have the ability to do it. It was just he
was going to need more time to develop in my mind.
And and again, Jets fans and fans in general just
took that and ran with it and.
Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
The rest is history. But we did help out some
good organizations.
Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
Yeah, you all know, on a separate topic, totally random,
but I found this out and I thought it was
pretty interesting what you got. I know, we got to
go to break But did you guys ever realize that
the buffalo that the Colorado Buffalo's run out with is
a female?
Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Yeah, Ralphie seven is a female.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I just never knew, Like, you know why that is?
Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Hell?
Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Yeah, I would love for them to run out with
a male that they can't control. I know that that
male would be way too big a bull. They're called bulls, right,
I believe they're bulls.
Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
I know he would be.
Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Too big, but could you imagine how physically imposing that
bull would be if you came running out with him?
So now listen, I get it, like, you can't have
the mix of men and women running out with with
him or I mean with her, But why would you
name or her him and act as though you're running
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out with a dude like Bevo isn't He's not a buddy,
he's not a girl.
Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
We got we got that going on. Just walk outside,
got that going on?
Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
Fry you're in California, buddy, rolled down the window. Oh wow,
So so what you guys are saying is is that
that Yeah, that buffalo, that buffalo identifies with being a male.
A lot of people in these parts aren't happy with
their plumb Yeah, buddy.
Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Like it's twenty twenty five. Have you not seen what's
crawling outside around you? A buffalo identifying as a meal
as a male. It's except that's the least surprising thing
in twenty in back.
Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
You're the weird one.
Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Yeah, you're the problem.
Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
My mind was blown having this conversation. Point just now
you y'a you lose minded any more? Mind Sales that
I had were just destroyed by what I just said.
Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
I do appreciate when you then.
Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
Apply like the nature aspect of it to that discussion,
how ridiculous it sounds. You're like, wait, like imagine like
like a bunch of buffaloes. They're like, hey, why is uh?
Why why's Felicia call herself Ralphie. It's like she wants
to run out with the Colorado football team. It's like, okay,
(01:05:52):
I get.
Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
It, Hey, Melissa, why are you at the urnal? Well
go try to milk the real Ralphie. Hey, just try,
you know, don't try there. They're they're bulls, like they're
they're they're mammals, you know what I mean? So you
could probably mills nothing to grab down there.
Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Well, there is there is, but it ain't the same.
That's what I'm saying. It's try It's not a nutterer.
How did we get here? It's not a nudder I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
But you gotta be careful because if.
Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
I'm just like that man, you might be you might
be able to have a brisk wind, a brisk wind.
The right scenario, how you realize you have to identify
with what you are because that right there is a
snail trail.
Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
A dude's so gassed up over there.
Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
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