Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Jonas Knox, LaVar Arrington, and Brady Quinn debate if Tyreek Hill's career is over after Drew Rosenhaus insists Hill will be ready to play next season. The guys react to Sean Payton insisting that the Tush Push is the safest play in the NFL. Plus, Petros Papadakis stops by to dive into the mythos of Shohei Ohtani and give his thoughts on USC's loss to Illinois.

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Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Sometimes you gotta lose to win, it is sometimes you
gotta lose to win.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.

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Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
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(01:19):
have another edition of in case you missed it coming
up here in about twenty minutes from now. Tyreek Kill's
agent Drew Rosenhaus he has some thoughts on his client.
This was him talking about the potential of a return
for Tyreek Kill courtesy of WSVN seven Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
The surgery went well.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
All of the torn ligaments, the injuries went back in
a place naturally. There's no nerve damage, no blood flow issues,
no broken bones, the cartilage is fine. The goal is
for him to be ready to play next season. It's
only one surgical for sure. There was some concern that

(02:02):
it might be more than one surgery, but right now everything.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
Went as well as we could have hoped for.

Speaker 7 (02:09):
We'll pray for Tyreek to have a speedy recovery. We
know he'll do a great job with his rehab, and
the goal is for him to be back in and
back to himself by the start of next season.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I mean, that's bold, that's wishful. That's wishful.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
I mean, by the way, you know it's it's true.
Rosenows I think he's a great dude. I will say
this about Drew. There's no one who who you know,
is out there with his guys, or there's few that
are out there with his guys the way he is.
I mean, I remember being down in Miami, you know,
training at Data There's a Jewish community center that Bombary
of Sports would train at and use their weight rooman Fields,

(02:50):
and Drew would be out there running the three on
yard shuttles with guys and he'd be doing like back
to back to back like that. Dude. I was like,
all right, like I think he's winning for like the
mo it's fit agent at least at this point.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
No way, But.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
I also feel like you would say a lot of
things that may or may not be true, you know,
like that it was, it was like all right, like
he might be saying some things that might be some
wishful thinking, but you look, time will tell, and I
wouldn't put it past Tyreek, you know, to be able
to come back and make that happen. But curious to
see if there's another follow up surgery because my understanding

(03:26):
was that they would fix some of the other ligaments,
wait till some of the smelling went down and then
go back in for the ACL but maybe they were
able to do it all at once.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's you know, tongue in cheek. I take it at
face value. You got to be positive about your client.
You're an agent. You gotta be still negotiating as an
agent because that's your asset. It's not I mean, for
what it's worth that that's a person that's in your
you know, in your assets portfolio. He's I mean, you

(03:57):
could say, oh, well he loves the more, he's their friends,
or he's involved, or he's there whatever. Agents are agents,
and it's a business transaction. And more often than I
think you figure out that with agents. I mean there's
only I mean, my my former teammate is is a
super agent, and he would probably be more athletic than Drew,

(04:18):
So I wouldn't give Drew most athletic.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Shop he Field shoffye Fields, who shoffye Fields? Look him up.
You let me hear your fingers. C h A f
I c.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
H A f I E Fields like Fields, Right, he's
super cookie, like Missus Fields.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, like Missus Fields. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
So anyways, let himself go. You know, if you want
me to be honest, sho Fielders, don't let himself go. No, no, no,
he's still they the wrong shaffe. He's in very good condition. Actually,
anywhere chance have the who I don't know, I don't
shoffe fl Didn't he go to uh.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
You know, I'm saying I felt that wrong Shaffie. The
shoffee I'm looking at now looks Yes, he looks very
much more in shape.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Didn't he go to julesy mass Bomb High School?

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I believe you're stupid, Broy. I'm glad you're what's what city?
What what city?

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Pennsylvania?

Speaker 6 (05:18):
And by the way, I'm not saying that shop he
couldn't beat Drew in a forty yard dash. What I'm
saying is that I don't I don't see many dudes
who run back to back to back thandyard shuttles like
he did. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
This is granted, this is just giving you a hard time.
I really don't, you know, I'm just all be honest.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
At that moment I looked at drewid I was like, Oh,
he's on the gas because there's just there's got to
be something going on.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean, why wouldn't you be Yeah, if you're not.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Like getting tested for it, and you're around a bunch
of dudes like I would be.

Speaker 8 (05:47):
And I.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Mean dudes don't be doing bad in the girlfriend wives
department either when they be around a lifestyle for quite
some time. I mean, there are tremendous benefit fits to
being a successful superagent, especially if you're one that resides
in southern Florida.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
That's all I was right.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Some would say they would never even get married if
that was again.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I wouldn't. I don't know why they do.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean maybe because it creates a certain level of
stability in terms of what what you're looking at, what
you're seeking. I don't really know too many agents that
don't kind of parade their families in front of their
their potential clients, because it's like almost like the presidency,

(06:36):
like you got to put on that facade that you're
not you know, you're not scary, or you're not a
wildcard or anything like that. I mean, generally speaking, I
mean the deep heart resource that you should want to
see right now, it's deep heart research. I mean, I'm
just telling you, I'm I'm aware that's that's I didn't
want to get all out there in people's personal business

(06:58):
like that, But I'm just telling you, I'm aware that works,
totally aware. Yeah, there are benefits, like tremendous benefits. He
earns that ten percent. Hey, bruh, what other industry are
you going to have the opportunity to land clientele like
that for yourself? You know what I mean, It's like

(07:19):
it might be a little bit more difficult, that's.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
All you know.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Rosenhaus was also Willis mcgaye, he's agent, and he was
telling everybody he was going to get drafted in the
first round, he was going to be ready to go
for the start of the season, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
And he was right. And Wilse mcgae had a that
was terrific injury.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I mean, nothing looked like it was just going twist off,
like it was so gone, disconnected. Bad.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Here's the thing about Tyreeks that made it look bad
is it was so distorted that Jonas didn't know if
it was an ankle or an injury. Yeah, Like that's
how weird. The leg was hanged could have been both,
it could have well, and that's that's where I understood
where Jonahs got confused. But then then it was the
comment I don't know if you're I don't think you're working.
When he asked, but he goes, He texted me, be goes.

(08:08):
Is it better that it was? Isn't it better that
I was like bent inward or outward? I was like, dude, no,
like the way that thing bent, I don't care if
it was inward or outward, like everything.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, you're going he lost all those likes.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
You asked me, if I'm gonna dislocate something, I'd rather
go to the inside than the outside of my leg
because it just feels like there's more GiB. You can
turn your ankle in, it's real hard to turn it out.

Speaker 6 (08:33):
Everything and thing's gonna go every week.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, that's yeah, if you're tearing it. Yeah, yeah, it
doesn't matter if.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I'm part of the dislocated life, Like, I know what
that's about.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
So I've been there. I don't know if you guys have,
but I have.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
Man, it's funny I had. I had a guy yesterday
tell me he dislocated his kneecap recently, and I was like, oh, yeah,
I go it's kind of like the tyree killindrig goes. No,
it's not, he goes. It's it's nothing like that I know.
I go, I just want to see it, you would say,
because I was like, I work with the guy who
thinks it's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
He was saying it was more brutal.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
No, he was, he was, he was actually he was
actually giving like Tyreek kill credit and just how painful
and awful that being all that, And then it was like, oh, yeah, no,
I work with a guy. My wife said he was
in shock. She thought he was in shock the way
her Yeah, when he was all like smiling and stuff.
I think she was like, how.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Could you watch your body like bend like that and
do that?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Then, like in my mind I had I had an
achilles tear and when it popped, I was far from happy,
far from smiling and blowing kiss with a crap like that.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
If my leg looked like that, you guys, I mean
the pain. Guys would have seen a pilot crap in
my pants.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I just feel like the pain you feel right after
something like that takes place, or what your body is
rushing to do. You feel what your body's trying to do,
and that's like, man, I don't know, man, that's like
watching your arm get chopped off in front of you.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
I'd assume if like, here's the part that that's where
you don't watch Black Rabbit, by the way, not for
that reason. That's a good show, man, I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I mean you put me up on land, man. I mean,
I'm gonna give Black Rabbit a trap. Here's the lot
we can do it. I could have played with it
a little bit. I could have I left it alone. Yeah,
I feel like we were having a serious conversation.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
And this is the part that when Drew Rosenew says, like,
you know where he started next season, if it was
just a torn ACL, start of next season is bold, Like, okay,
because Brandon Ayuk got injured and I don't know if
he's played yet, and he tore his ACL last year,
So if it was just an ACL, that would still

(10:45):
be a pretty bold thing to say it.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
This year, it's a tough position for those types of.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
He didn't just tear the ACL, He dislocated the knee.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
He did other damage.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
There's gonna be a bone bruise that comes along with it,
which is going to be months of that he's gonna
have to deal with that for And I just that's
why when he's saying starting next year, it's like man
starting next year, how about anytime next year? And what
what is he going to be when he returns, because
I can't imagine he just comes back and next thing
you know, he's still running four two forties.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I just those days.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It just might not be the movement of it. It
might not be the movement. If he can get his
VMO and all that stuff, if he can get if
he could get his muscles firing, that's going to be
very important. That the structural damage that he took. He's
going to have to hope that the surgical procedure put

(11:42):
put things in the proper, proper order, and that it's functioning,
things are firing the right way. And then it comes
down to how strong can he get his quad? How
strong can he get his glute? How strong can he
get all of those? For one, starting with the muscles
that are going going to stabilize his knee, but then

(12:03):
now everything that goes along with him being able to
run as fast as he can run, he's going to
have to be able to strengthen that. He's going to
have to go through a ton of excruciating pain of
breaking down all of the scar tissue that is going
to you know, be built up. So there's going to
be that aspect of it. There's just going to be

(12:25):
a lot of different phases of healing and rehab that
he's going to have to go through again. For me,
I always say the physical part of it. I believe
that guys always more often than not, they they raise
to the challenge of the physical aspects of it. I

(12:45):
just always question the idea of when somebody gets these
types of injuries and these they go through the rehab.
There's no real there's no mental rehab. There's none, Like
it's all really based upon all of the physical work
that you put in to get rehabbed and get healthy
and back out there doing what you're doing. But there's

(13:09):
never really like the things that they do, the X
rays of the leg, the MRIs, the scoping of the knee,
the doing all of these different things. There is nowhere
near the type of approach to a guy's mental health
in these situations happen again, you know what I mean, Like,
it's just it's the mental part of it that's going

(13:31):
to be the hardest part. And it's not just like
the rehab part of it. It's the you know, the
trauma of seeing your leg do that? Will it happen again?
How does it feel? What if I run too hard?
Or what if I do too much weight or things
that you may not really talk about, but it's there.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's interesting.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
You've already got some of the x rays actually made
it on the internet. I just sent it to you
guys from Tyreek Hill's knee. So they've already got a
couple a couple of shots that are going around at
least how it looked how it looked from an extra standpoint.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
That's like, man, yeah, it's like really totally detached. Yeah,
and not to mention the the well, I understand why
you have so many children? You know that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Do you love the fact that you're back working with
us again? Stuff like this? Right?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I mean, I'm trying to figure out why the knee
is the only thing that's lit up in the X ray.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
Well, that was what they were most concerned with.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I wouldn't be with this this photo in particular.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Okay, well there you go.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Hey, uh, didn't you ever wake up and got these
these two? Is stupid?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I mean, this this one right here, this is an
all time.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Low for you. That was really that's why we brought
it up.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I was really like focused in on, like like the
how much enlarged the knee was that's lit up? How
disconnected it is, like how much space is in between
that knee and the other one that I'm looking at.
And then as I was cross referencing, something disturbed my
field of vision. And then I realized what had happened.

(15:23):
This was not, in fact Tyreek Hill's knee, and I
felt disappointed that I took the photo series.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
And then you saw the beer tap next to it,
and he thought, all right, well.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, I immediately shifted to I immediately shifted to Drew
Rosenhouse was probably sitting there thinking to himself, well, as
long as I get my cut before the other cuts
go out, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Now you know why he's so fast, though.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, now I know why he's got to get healthy
and get back out there.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
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Speaker 4 (17:01):
The Philadelphia Eagles have a unique play. It's their aluminum bat.
It's called the Tush Push. People are not thrilled with
the Tush Push. They're not happy that the play still exists,
except for, of course, Sean Payton, who's the head coach
of the Denver Broncos who are taking on the Philadelphia Eagles.
This weekend, and Sean Payton said this about the play.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
I was one that stood up in favor of. The
reason I stood up in favor of is pretty simple.
If the powers to be don't want it for esthetic
reasons or competitive reason, you know, or it's hard to officiate, etc.
But I've been involved in those meetings for a long time,

(17:44):
and when all of a sudden, health and safety was
pulled into that, which might be the safest play in football,
my bullet nose kind of went up.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Look at the quarterback sneak.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
You know, as long as the line of scrimmage is clean,
it's a well run quarterback sneak.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
So that was Payton on the Orange and Blue podcast
talking about the ETO.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
But this isn't apples oranges comparison. No one's ever had
an issue at the quarterback sneak because you weren't aiding
the runner. There was no one who was pushing the
runner forward, which was why the rule was illegal in
the first place. So I just want to be clear
on this. There was a rule, and the only reason,

(18:24):
and we talked to Dean Blandino about this, the only
reason it's not still a rule is because they didn't
feel like they could officiate it, which at this point
one now we're hearing that about the tush push, that
they don't feel like they can properly officiate it because
of whether it's a false start or other issues within that.

(18:47):
Now you're hearing that murmur come out. I would take
issue with the fact that it's a safe play. I
do feel like there will be a neck injury that
happens at some point, whether that's the defensive player trying
to stuck it or an offensive player with the angles
in which they strike the person across from them. And
then the last thing I'll just say is we can't

(19:09):
officiate it. Now we have enough cameras, we have enough
angles to sit there and say that we can't officiate
The aiding or pushing of a runner is bs like
that was the rule twenty plus years ago and they
did away with it because of that. Now that's not
the case. So I don't know, Like, here's my thing is,

(19:32):
I really don't have a dog in a fight. Like
if it stays a part of football, fine, I don't
love it as a football play. It doesn't look like
a football play. It feels like a rugby play. It
feels like kind of a ho hum, you know, are
we gonna watch this do this again? And the quarterback
sneak was always fine. It's always fine, there's nothing wrong
with it. It was more of an enticing play when

(19:54):
it happened, because sometimes they got it, sometimes they didn't.
This has become so dominant that now it's almost like
a well, we know they're gonna get it, so let's
just move on to the next play. There is that
element of all this. But here's what I want to do.
I want to take a vote, like, is there anyone
who's like staunchly on our our show against this.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I'm I'm against pushing, and I've told you guys that like.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, which foresee a few reasons.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Too, right, Yeah, and not to me.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's more egregious on other plays than it is on
the on the touch push. It is because you have
guys that are getting stood up by defenders, and these
offensive linemen think it's okay to run twenty yards and
hit not only their guy or hit the defender, but

(20:45):
they're hitting.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Their own guy.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
To push their guy forward two three yards.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It might be the difference between a first down and
being fourth down in a yard or something like that,
but you're running into your own players to hate them
going forward. That's to me, the pushing aspect of it
is the most egregious aspect of it for competitive reasons,

(21:11):
not not for to me, I don't even yes, safety
comes into play. But let's just take a second here
and think about the idea of if your forward progress
is stopped, the play is over. It's over. So to me,

(21:31):
if you if a guy can run up when your
forward progress is stopped and then they come and hit
you and they aid you going forward, to me, that's cheating.
That's not to me, that's not football. And I also
like to see that.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
To that point, though, there also is the element of
like what is forward progress stopped?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
And as it stopped?

Speaker 6 (21:52):
Sure like that there's there's an element to the play
of which you know, we've seen times where the runners stop,
the defensive stopped him, and then alignment comes from behind
and shoves him forward and again the toush push play,
but he stays up, he gets another three, four five
yards or they're like, oh what a what a second effort.
It's like, well, it's not him, it's the three guys

(22:14):
behind them pushing him. And you look at that and
you just go is that easy to officiate? I mean again,
before the touch push became something that was utilized, even
those plays, they would have been like, no, his forward
progress was stopped and now all that stuff continue.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Would stop those guys from doing that bs if you
made it illegal again, like stop making it okay for
these big ass offensive lineman to go running towards the
pals like that.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
I'm indifferent on it. I think it's gonna be gone
next year. I think they're already, you know, setting the
table to get rid of it. Not it's difficult to
officiate all that. I'm indifferent on the whole thing. If
they want to keep it, fine, get rid of it,
that's fine. My favorite part though, is when people say, well,
you know, Jalen hurts. I mean, he's squats six hundred pounds.
That's why they're so much better at it than everything.

(23:05):
All right, So if that's the case, why can't he
just do a quarterback sneak? Why does he need three
guys to push him from behind? That's correct, Like, it's
just I think that Nick Sirianni knows. That's why he's
probably busting out all these plays that he's got these
counters to it, and he's talking about how exciting the
play is, like he was on Monday being a wise
ass about the whole thing. I think he knows it's

(23:26):
probably gonna be gone, and then they're just gonna have
to go back to the quarterback sneak and they're probably
going to be, if not as successful, pretty close to
a successful at picking up that extra yard as they will.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
And maybe that's why they're starting to show you the
different variations of what they can do now that they've
gotten people convinced you can't stop the touch push, so
now they've added wrinkles to the play itself. My biggest
question would be, if you do away with the touch push,
what are the rules that do away with it, because

(23:58):
you could still have a veryation of what the tush
push represents, right like say, for instance, okay, you can't
push the ball carrier, right, well, what if you put
an say for if if this is me, I'm like, okay,
here's my cheek code to it.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Unless you push this out as.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, I'm going to put one of my I'm going
to have one of my offensive linemens switched to, like
the refrigerator Perry or Warren sap whatever. I'm going to
put them in the gap that we're going to run towards,
and I'm going to say, blow that gap open, push,
push the guard or or push the center, or push

(24:40):
the tackle, whatever it may be. Blow that gap open,
and our quarterback is going to get behind you and
push behind.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
The full back. The fullback is going to be the pusher.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
And now the quarterback gets behind and listen, does it?
Does it in theory work out that way if they
were to run it?

Speaker 6 (25:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I mean, but I know you can line up your
fullback as close to the ball as you like. So
if you're gonna run, if you're gonna try to create
a variation, where does the rules stop. Is it just
no pushing? Like, for instance, you can't aid and push
a defender through the field goal line. You can't do it.
You can't drive a guy over top.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Of the center.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
That's a rule.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Are you gonna Are you gonna ban pushing or are
you going to ban aiding the runner? Like, because in
that scenario you could still kind of buck the system
and say, Okay, we're just gonna put a big guy
up on the line of scrimmage. That is a fullback
and he's going to push, and that's where the quarterback
is gonna go push. And I don't care. If you

(25:48):
know that it's coming there, you're not gonna be able
to stop it. If that quarterback can get behind that,
that that blocker who's going to aid the line, the
line of scrimmage, and that quarterback gets behind him, you're
not stopping that. For a yard, for a yard's game,
a yard and a half, maybe two yards, you're not

(26:09):
stopping it. So I don't know how the rule would
read out, How would the rule, how would it be
defined in terms of what you're able to do and
what you're not able to do.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's what they're going to have to be clear on
if they're going to.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Get rid of the play, because you can still find
variations of it.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Didn't Tampa sign that big dude? What's from Florida? Why
am I blanket on his name? Did he even play
last week?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Was that?

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Like, wasn't that supposed to be their counter? I don't
think he played. So you know, Nick Sirianni's out there like,
all right, you guys want to play that game, that's fine.
We'll just run a couple of counters off this, you know,
and have a good time with the whole thing. I
just it is kind of kind of wild that that
play has generated as much of a of as much

(26:57):
of a heat, the heated conversation.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
One way, or the that you got, you.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Know, Jeffrey Lorie dropping gems in the owners meeting that
people were offended by, like it just the whole thing is,
the whole thing is mind boggling.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Well, you know what bothers me a little bit about it, though,
is it's kind of taken away the full back dive.
You know, we used to have full backs and they
were in there for shore yardage, not only to blow
someone up, but sometimes you give them the football to
give them a little bit of love. Then they barrel
their way through and you know there's big extra big

(27:31):
shoulder pads like a neck roll. It's kind of done
away with it a little bit. Where like those guys
now they're out, they're walking around. I'm not sure what
they're doing for a job, you know. I mean maybe
they're a finance bro you know, maybe they're doing some
hard labor somewhere else, some construction. They got a jackhammer
that taking all their frustrations out because they weren't given

(27:52):
the opportunity to stay in the league as a full
back with no neck aint. You know, just that just
absolutely yoked out of their mind. Great athlete, just no
appreciation for the fact that they're so jacked up they
can't raise their hands above their their shoulders. Yeah, you know,
I mean, if you're throwing some them out of the backfield,
you're gotta put that thing right in the bread basket.
If it's anywhere eye level, that's a risk. It's probably

(28:15):
a drop.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
You know.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
As a quarterback, you knew that. Like a full back
out of the backfield, you're like, oh small catch rated
us here man, you know, especially for those guys who
were really yoked up like that. But I just I mean,
think think about back in the day Lorenzo O'Neil. I mean,
guys who would just knock you cross eyed, and and
those guys like they're not they're not really around anymore.

(28:37):
Like the death of the full back. Also, I think
it's played a part in this. It's led us to
short yardage plays where we had to get all creative,
you know, we had to superman that, like, like we
had to do all that to push them across for
the first down.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
I mean, I supurs he had full batch.

Speaker 6 (28:54):
I think America was better when we had fullback.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
I would agree. And there's no cau.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
I don't think it's a you know, just a coincidence
at the ra evens have struggled and Patrick ricardis and.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Played this year. I don't think you know, he's not
in the lineup.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
He's doing like a calf issue or something like.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
God damn, what a gigantic athletic specimen.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
And by the way, they just you mentioned they don't
have a neck. Did they have a neck when they
started playing full back and it just slowly got jammed
in as they were hitting the line.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's LeVar, he had to go up against full I
know your neck gets sore. Though your neck gets sore
dealing with dudes like that.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Maybe Davis Mills should play full back for me in
a couple of.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Games, be honest, as a linebacker in today's game, LeVar,
wouldn't you say it's easier from that standpoint, like you're
not going up against those like full back ISOs where
like that hole opens up and you're like, yep, me
and him and I'm gonna have to go try to
crack this dude who's probably five to ten two hundred
and forty five pounds with no neck.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, which fullback gave you that? Wark?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I mean me and z O'Neil definitely definitely went to
with the war view.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Everyone's got a Lorenzo Neil story by the way, Like
DJ Williams tell us one of the greatest Lorenzo Neil
story ever, like how he was like all nice to
him and stuff before the game and then knocked him
flat out like Friday, and then it was like, hey man,
you're right, come on, get up, You're right, Like we're
gonna do this in the next play.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
What's my my fullback from? I'm blanking on his name
And he's a Penn State fullback and he played for
the Bills, he played for the Ravens Man he wore
eleven too before we get a full back? Why am
I blanking on him?

Speaker 6 (30:38):
Huh dang?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Why am I blanking on him? Well?

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Anyway that there were I think Max Strong was was
tough to deal with.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
One of the most confusing fullbacks was Mike Alstott because
he could run like a tailback. Yeah, Sam Gash, there
we go. Thank you very much, Sam Gash. And Sam
Gash was on that level of zoe'nil.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's not a porn star name. I don't know what
it is.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, I get you. He definitely would gash your ass,
that's for certain. Sam Gash, that is.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
He was on that level of physicality of like had
to build up pads like this is what you got
to understand about dudes like Zoe Nil and those guys.
They literally built their pads to be able to mule
you like his Oh you remember ram Man from He Man,
Like you just been smashing down and then he pop

(31:36):
up like. That's what them dudes were, man, and that
was their only The only thing they really really cared
about doing was running through the line of scrimmage and
trying to obliterate you.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
But I used to love that.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I ain't gonna lie because for one, they can't to me,
they can't move real well, so I ola you know,
they they say that wasn't what you were supposed to do,
But I like to mix in a nice healthy olay
here and there, because the way their pads are built,
they can't lift their head up to be able to
see you, so their head is down they're coming through

(32:10):
the hole the line of scrimmage. They're just expecting you
to have to be there to be able to force
it back or spill it out. So they know you're
going to be there, so they're coming full speed to
hit you. I'll get you a olay here and there,
and then I get you thinking about it, like all right,
get your head up, you come down. You come through
the hole running like that coming downhill. You got your
head down. I'm gonna make you look really stupid.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Granted I may miss the tackle, but you did fall
into the ground because you thought you was about to
hit somebody and I wasn't there. And maybe pop back in,
but that was an intimidating moment of you seeing Sam
gash or Freakin.

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Speaker 2 (33:55):
All right, So let's say I think they built show. Hey,
they built him, like they genetically built him and put
him together like in some lab or something. I feel
that way about Peyton Manning too, like they built him whoever,
they are scientists, they built him scientists.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Yeah you're saying wherever he came from, they built him.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yes, Yes, there's like two people I believe when I
look at them, they were like they were they were
genetically they were engineered.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
What is it like the postures.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Peyton Manning and his showhead Tani. There's just there's something
about white Pyden. Oh, because he's like a computer. I don't,
I don't know. It's like it's like it's weird that
archie'sus dad. It's like when I've seen him around art,
it's like weird to me that Peyton Manning has a dad.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
He just doesn't seem like he's like what I know, man,
I know, it's like kind of wild to say, like,
but you I understand, Like I like we're from the
same era of time and he's like get that.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Finished finished.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
He's a tip bit older, but every time I've watched him,
he's just always has seemed to be ahead of everyone else,
like mentally, every like every single thing, the way he
carries himself, the way he does things. It's just like
like it's weird that it would be weird for me
to hear him say dad, like hey Dad, love you Dad,

(35:24):
Like he just doesn't see he just seems like he's
been genetically engineered, like like scientists took test tubes, they
took this, they put that together. Boom boom boom. This
is what they engineered. That's how I feel about Peyton Manning.
He's like not, he's not a person. He's like he
was built from something. And I feel the same way
about Show Hey at Tom then on House Sorry test Tube,

(35:48):
and I don't really like when I when I watched
show Hey walk up to the batter's box and he
stands and he does that little like deal he does
right before he swings. I'm like, he's not he's not
all like he was engineered. Yeah, Like, where's his dad?
I want to see what his mom and dad look like? Like,
I want to hear him say dad, Like it's weird.

(36:11):
That's weird to me.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I think I know who's got some answers say dad, Yeah,
it's weird.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
I want to see him be I want to see
him be like a subordinate to someone, like like, there's
my dad, Like you know, I hugged my dad a
certain type of way, like it's different, man, but yeah something.
I'm glad we got him here because I'm sure he
agrees with me.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
He is Petros Papadakaz he's the co host of the
Petro Some Money Show, which you can hear on the
Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports, a Fox college football analyst.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
I mean, I feel like Petro genetically engineered.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
You know what, Petras your thoughts on Levar's breakdown of
Otani being not human.

Speaker 11 (36:49):
I understand he seems very mechanical right in many ways, but.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like a cyborg. Like if you like, like you remember V,
like when they like get hit them?

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Why not only do I remember V.

Speaker 11 (37:03):
There's one of our neighbors here where we live who
I've known her and her brother almost since I was
in elementary school.

Speaker 10 (37:13):
I knew the girl and V.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
The little girl. I had a crush on Diana about
the way we all did.

Speaker 11 (37:20):
The little girl in V's name is Jenny Beck and
she she.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
Is a star man.

Speaker 10 (37:27):
She grew up around here and she's still her kids
are in college now and she's married.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
A long time.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Are our neighbors growing up? Were the costume designers for
that show?

Speaker 10 (37:39):
I'm sure they came across each other.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
They were dope. Those were dope costumes, by the way,
Elks and.

Speaker 11 (37:45):
Palace Vernes holding hands over Los Angeles. Uh, But yeah,
sho Hal Tawny seems pretty otherworldly. A lot of Japanese
athletes because.

Speaker 10 (37:55):
Of the the.

Speaker 11 (37:57):
Repetition, the discipline of how they go about it baseball.

Speaker 10 (38:01):
I guess each row would come to mind.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Just a so so he's little. Each row is little
like shoe A looks the part.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
He not only looks like he's like a cyborg, he
just looks different, like a terminator.

Speaker 11 (38:14):
When I started, I mean, I've covered the Dodgers baseball
for a long time, and when I started covering the Dodgers,
I was kind of like, Wow, these guys are pretty
normal looking guys as far as pro athletes go. You know,
like you stand next to Trey Turner and you can
understand why some white dads go crazy trying to turn

(38:38):
their son into a major league baseball player, because you
don't actually have to pass the eyeball test. If you
walk in the room and tell somebody you're a major
league baseball player, you could be David Eckstein or somebody
like that and really not look Mookie Betts like Mookie

(38:59):
Betts is not. He's a great athlete, but he's not
an intimidating looking figure. When you stand next to him.
That's a great example. Freddie Freeman showed up and I
was like, damn, that is really big. You know, that's
a big ass guy. And then Shoe Heyo TODDI showed up. Wow,
I was like, whoa you know, so.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
You don't even want to look at him?

Speaker 11 (39:19):
Yeah, what do they use the cool word they use
in football now as creatures?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Like, Wow, there's some real like that. I like that
a lot.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
You need to use that, Petro, you're get in that
a gap.

Speaker 10 (39:31):
There's some real creatures.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
Oh yeah, I love.

Speaker 11 (39:35):
Yeah, he's there's no doubt that he's a He's a creature.
And and you know, we use so much hyperbole. Somebody
I remember before the Ohio State versus I don't know
if it's true or not, but everybody was calling you, no,
Ohio State receiver the greatest college football player any of
us have ever seen.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
And he's a good receivert card No the one they
have now Smith, oh, Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 11 (40:03):
Yeah, and it's like, Okay, I don't know if he's
the greatest college football player I've ever seen.

Speaker 6 (40:08):
He's a dominant receiver.

Speaker 11 (40:11):
We use so much hyperbole to sell the moment because
that's our job. But Shoho Tani, there's no hyperbole there. Yeah,
he lives up to everything. In fact, it's almost to
the point where he's so ridiculous. It's like he's like
a playing a video game and everybody else is a
real person. He's so ridiculous that you almost take for

(40:33):
granted what he does, which is totally unprecedented and totally
out of pocket.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
For a normal athlete.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
So there you go.

Speaker 11 (40:42):
You got to give the guy credit. He hit two
jacks last night. The Dodger bullpen is still a mess,
but it'll be an adventure again tonight against the Reds,
who compare themselves to cocker roaches.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
I bury those cockerroaches.

Speaker 11 (40:56):
The Reds are like a very scrappy team, you know,
nobody with a whole bunch of home runs or nobody
with a great batting average.

Speaker 10 (41:04):
But they put it together and made the.

Speaker 11 (41:05):
Playoffs in the last day of the season. So good
for them. We'll see how it shakes out tonight.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
I'll be there. Oh nice, nice, Yeah, we have to
go when it comes to this stuff. Oh well, yeah,
it was still be fun, though I don't have very
much fun. All right, Well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (41:23):
I hope you usually I just sit there and try
to like suppress a panic attact.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Are you guys on the field or in the suite?

Speaker 6 (41:30):
We go wherever we want?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, oh yeah, So.

Speaker 11 (41:33):
We can go down to the field, we can stay
up on the suite. One of us can go down
in the field. One of us can stay up on
the suite. There's a bartender whenever we show up. Right
when we crack the mic, a VIP bartender comes from
downstairs and brings drinks and drink a choice. They usually
bring me a mich alata. But I'm not super comfortable

(41:58):
having a beer and then going down there, So sometimes
I like to stay up. And if you're gonna come
and be interviewed by me a drunken radio host, uh
you can do it. I'm a sweet amongst the hot
dogs and turkey raps?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Oh right?

Speaker 6 (42:12):
Is there any worse smell though than those hot dogs?

Speaker 11 (42:14):
After a while, they were able to suppress it in
the suite. Somehow, I don't. I don't find that feeling
about the Dodger Stadium dogs, Brady.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Okay, maybe they're different there here in Los Angeles. But yeah,
in fact, if I wasn't, I wasn't specifically talking about
the la ones. I'm just saying, like something about a
ballpark hot on when like the water they're they're like
they're basting in there too long, something about the smell.
I understand. Sorry, yeah, Lily, for me to think about it, yeah,

(42:45):
I don't want to think about it. In fact, I'm
gonna transition very quickly now into you're all. You're all,
I'm jerking the wheel into a ditch, which is what
Lincoln Riley and you feel like they did a little
bit this past week in Illinois. Just take me through it.
I was on stage or at the desk with a
fellow USC alum who got very sensitive about it.

Speaker 11 (43:07):
I saw that somebody. I didn't see it, but somebody
texted me that looks like Leonard's pissed at Brady and
he was sensitive. Oh yeah, I mean, by the way,
he's a true believer about what you know the guys
you always said was like.

Speaker 10 (43:24):
Can they be going back to the Rose Bowl?

Speaker 6 (43:26):
Right? My whole thing to him was like can they
find physicality not to match what Illinois was bringing?

Speaker 11 (43:33):
No? No, And look I picked us he to win
that game simply because I didn't think that Illinois would
be able to recover from the sexual degradation that they
suffered in Bloomington. That was a terrible loss. And when
you I mean that's you you gave up. When you
give up sixty point, that's what it was. It was

(43:56):
more than a beating, right, they were they had the
ball in but uh, Illinois was able to recover themselves
quite well. And to me, it's so indicative of what
Lincoln Riley's problem is. And it's very interesting because it

(44:18):
begs the question. And I know there's a lot of
guys that call their own plays as head coaches, but
at a certain point you find these examples where it
really it hurts the team. For example, first of all,
USC was lucky to be in a position to win
that game with the undisciplined play and the lack of

(44:39):
physicality that you pointed out and upset Matt Liner with.
Second of all, they I mean, Illinois fumbled twice in
the goal line.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
One of them should not because it fourteen point difference.

Speaker 10 (44:52):
Right, and one of them should not have been a fumble.

Speaker 11 (44:54):
So USC was going to grind out a victory in
a game that they didn't really have have business winning
because Illinois fumbled twice going into the end zone. USC
has two minutes left. They're driving. Their defense hasn't stopped
Illinois at all. They forced one punt in the game,

(45:17):
and Lincoln Riley throws for the end zone with two
minutes left like it doesn't matter, Like it's a video
game and they're beating Illinois in the secondary. I'm pretty
sure and Brady would know better he being there, but
I think Illinois was really beat up, like four out
of five guys out in the secondary last week this week,
and Lemon the great receiver the US. He has maybe

(45:40):
a Bolitani cough guy and that's how good he is.
I know the guy, Jeremiah Smith is the greatest college
football player any of us have ever seen at Ohio State.
But I like this receiver at US. He's he's having
a great year so far. But they throw it to
the guy. They take no time off the clock. Illinois
doesn't need to score a touchdown to win in the game.
All they had to do was get a couple first

(46:03):
downs and kick a field goal, and they had plenty
of time. They didn't have to call any timeouts. When
USC had the ball near the goal line, Lincoln Riley
needed to run the ball, eat some clock, force them
to call some timeouts, and then score a touchdown, manage
the game for your whole team. You were not just
the offensive coordinator, genius play caller, you were also the

(46:24):
head coach. All three phases come under your jurisdiction. And
the fact that he's not able to see that in
the moment on the road in a Big ten game
is one of the things that's wrong with USC. But
the ultimate thing you said, Brady, they get down in
the trenches in a game against a Big ten team,
and Michigan State is a very improoved team, but they

(46:46):
just were on the road and they didn't have the
defense to stop USC, and they were clicking at USC
almost let him back in that game. It's much the
same that we're used to with USC, and it's frustrating
that every September everybody acts like it's going to be different,
and you know, they play illin Uh, they play freaking

(47:07):
Missouri State and Georgia Southern, and everybody wants to hand
Jade and Maiava the heisman get read right.

Speaker 6 (47:13):
Well, the other thing I was I was trying to
point out, and again, like you know, I think Matt's
frustration earlier in the morning. Right, Well, no, no, it's
he was like, well, you guys never beat us. I'm like, dude, no,
it has nothing to do with that. Like, that's twenty
years ago. I'm living in the here and now. And
why Southern cow which should be better than they are,

(47:35):
why they've struggled to transition, I think, And I think
one of the transitions that people overlook within the Big
ten is you might not look at Michigan State as
a powerhouse.

Speaker 8 (47:45):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
You know, obviously Jonathan Smith has got them in a
better position than they were. There's still a long way
to go. But to me, it's the physicality of playing
a Michigan State, then at Illinois, then eventually Michigan. Then
eventually you know, they've got Notre Dame on the schedule.
You know, one more time, we'll see what happens to
happen to sand in your ass, Right, It's just it's
the gauntlet of going through week after week after week

(48:09):
teams that are built to kind of battle it out
in the trenches. And that's where you look at the
improvements and you just say, Okay, obviously Southern col has
improved to a degree, but like, do they have the
ability and do they have the culture build up to
mentally and physically go through that gauntlet and realize That.

Speaker 11 (48:27):
Answer would be no, I mean I would My answer
would be they don't have the discipline as a program.
They don't play the complimentary football, which is a sexy
term to use now, but they just don't do it
well enough to be consistent. You know, they lost to
Maryland and Minnesota last year.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
And that's kind of like, which, by the way, those
two programs aren't that bad, you know what I'm saying,
Like Minnesota is tough defensively, the Milink washing is awesome.
At Maryland, like that's a sneaky good team. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (48:57):
The point is they lost those games because it was
within the gauntlet of the Big Ten. Right they are
on the road, they're back at home. The USC teams
that Matt Lioner played on I think would be great
in the.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
Big Ten of any era of football.

Speaker 11 (49:16):
But like you said, that was twenty twenty plus years ago.
That's not what's happening now. They don't have a coach
that's dedicated to competition and practice. They don't have a defense,
they don't have a defensive coach. They have an offensive
play caller as the head coach, and that was never
more evident than the Illinois game.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
USC is just the same as they used to be.

Speaker 11 (49:38):
It's interesting that you brought up Michigan State because in
the meeting I had with Jonathan Smith to start the year,
he said something pretty interesting.

Speaker 6 (49:45):
He said, look.

Speaker 10 (49:47):
We're better, we've improved, but we weren't good last.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
Like we have a long way.

Speaker 11 (49:53):
Like we've improved from last year, and last year we
were far behind that USC and Lincoln Riley they don't
have that kind of leverage. They don't have He doesn't
have that kind of rope, I don't think. But then
it's a ninety million dollars buyout. I just I resent
everybody running around telling me how good us he is,
and then they still lose a game in September and

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it's like, okay, can we be done now?

Speaker 6 (50:16):
Is there one person in particular in the media I'd
like to call out because there's there's a name that
comes to mind. I'm not going to say it, but
I think.

Speaker 11 (50:22):
With Yogi Roth No, Yogi, Well, he's one. He's all
the way up there. Ass twenty four to seven. He
laminated like playing cards for Pete Carroll and he's like,
by the way I call it football plays in two
thousand and six.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
There I did give Coward a hard time because you know,
he was, you know, there for the show and he.

Speaker 10 (50:44):
Walks as made for it too.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
It's like, well he is wearing Southern col shoes, and
I said, I'll call him. You're back in Chicago, like
you might want to start embracing the Midwest again. Get
he's like a million shoes. Yeah. He's like no, no,
He's like, they'll be fine. Today said, yeah, I think
so too. But I think there's there's a there's a
way to which I think Illinois wins this game. He
wasn't having it.

Speaker 11 (51:06):
Yeah, well he had to have it when the game
ended because USC didn't lose.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Yeah, they're just the whole USC.

Speaker 11 (51:12):
Front runner Olympics that happens every September and trying to
make fetch happen with Lincoln Riley when clearly you know
he's the team has depreciated every year since he's been there.
Is it's it's it's it's it's the rights of Autumn.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Like you know, what's the part I don't understand about
it is when was the last time they were legitimately
not force fed, but legitimately a national title contender, like
twenty years.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
So it's at least it's not so what.

Speaker 11 (51:45):
I mean, Tim Harbaugh, you could say that Jim Harbaugh
ran USC ran Pete Carroll out of the Pac ten
with running power over and over again in a game
I called in two thousand and nine. That was the
what's your deal? And then the other one was like.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
What's your refid deal?

Speaker 11 (52:01):
Between Pete Carroll That's when their rivalry really kind of
got heated up. Yeah, it's been at least that. I mean,
even John David Booty, Mark Sanchez. I mean, those were
national title contending teams and they would win Rose Bowls
and maybe not win at all, but they would have

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wildly successful years.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
A long time ago.

Speaker 11 (52:24):
Yeah, it's been, you know, fifteen, it's been since the
Pete Carroll era. You know, during one of the sanction years,
Lane Kiffin won a bunch of games, and there's been
a few instances here and there. Obviously, they couldn't beat
Utah when they had Kayleb Williams that first year with
the Heisman year, So I mean they lost in the

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they if they had won the Pac twelve championship in
the very first year that Lincoln Riley was there. They
would have made the College Football Playoff, but they didn't
even come close to winning that game. So the answer is, yeah,
it's been a long time, but it's a West Coast
blue blood that destroyed the Pac twelve by leading by
going to the Big Ten. We all understand why so.

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And there's a lot of people like Matt Leinerd and
Colin Cowerd that want to make it happen every year,
but it's just not happening.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
Petros, do you have a I was listening to you
and Matt on the blowtorch Am five seventy yesterday and
you had some just great updates on the falcons that
were stolen from.

Speaker 10 (53:25):
So far the hawks.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Yeah, so are they hawks or falcons hawks?

Speaker 11 (53:30):
Okay, it's a falconer you would call somebody that's a
keeper of birds, like a falconer can be like somebody
that has owls.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Because there was a misinformation given out on another station
eleven fifty locally that you dismissed there was dead bodies, like,
what can you tell us about that situation?

Speaker 11 (53:49):
Okay, a black male and all blind though, what levarn
Y just started off all times, Well it's inglewood, you know,
So here's where.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
We hope he used to be. Fortunately, Petros, we were
hoping you're going to describe everything around the scenario without
giving this specific detail, so we could guess that's what
we were hoping. Well, I didn't think it was that
kind of shells. I mean it's that it was a shame.
Get a Saturday Live skit if you didn't.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Yeah, god damn, talk about spoiler alert.

Speaker 11 (54:23):
So a black male in all black, a black jacket
with a white stripe down the arm.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
Maybe it was Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 11 (54:31):
Uh stole stolen cart, you know, like the cart Marshawn
Lynch stole I called that game by the way, Uh
Marshaw Lynch and the cart overtime victory over Washington.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (54:45):
So the guy stole a cart because somebody left the
key in the cart. Uh, and he just drove off
with the cart at SOFI. Unfortunately, the cart in the
back had two Harris is hot.

Speaker 10 (55:01):
People use hawks.

Speaker 11 (55:02):
At least in this area hit the birds, yeah, to
take other birds out, and they use them around the
station for the other studios.

Speaker 10 (55:09):
Yeah, so hawks come and clear the area.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
And kick ass.

Speaker 11 (55:14):
Uh so this guy stole two hawks. Uh, maybe he
didn't know he stole the hawks. They found the cart,
and they found the body of two quail. Uh the
bodies of too quail that were killed with a sharp object.
The quail some stations in town mistook for the hawks.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Hawks that were right.

Speaker 10 (55:36):
The quail were also in the cages.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Which life not more important? Hawks life? I mean he
shouldn't all bird lives matter?

Speaker 11 (55:45):
Well yeah, but now you're saying like I had my
snake and the two rats. I was gonna feed my
snake and I I can't find my snake, but I
found the two rats dead.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Though, that's another blm.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
Birds lives.

Speaker 11 (55:58):
Yes, yeah, some people don't even feel like birds are real,
like they're all spies. But anyway, uh so, then the
search continues for the hawks.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Very job, mister obvious. Another be all ill matters. That's
like what keep the hashtag going?

Speaker 4 (56:18):
So then what's the Have they found them?

Speaker 6 (56:22):
I don't believe.

Speaker 11 (56:23):
So they need and they have to be found by
Thursday because if they don't eat or drink by Thursday,
of course you.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
Know they're birds.

Speaker 11 (56:31):
Could they fly somewhere and get some food? I don't know,
but the search continues somewhere to get some food.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You know, I don't know the stolen hawks if they're
flying free right now in the in the wild, how
would you know which which who they are?

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Don't like?

Speaker 11 (56:50):
And you're like you looked in the back, like, damn,
you know there's two big ass birds.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
You know, probably just let them go, I would imagine,
or try to sell them.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Is there valance of this?

Speaker 10 (57:00):
Who's gonna buy a hawk and anglewood?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I mean, hey, bro, black market is crazy man, literally,
I mean did it? That's what it's been labeled. And
we I mean, why not finish the way we started?

Speaker 4 (57:19):
So I'm just trying to figure out the quail that
died with via the sharp object?

Speaker 10 (57:23):
They what do we talk toil?

Speaker 6 (57:25):
So?

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Did the guy pull a shive? What do we I
don't know.

Speaker 11 (57:30):
That's the details of what I have so far. I'm
looking to see if there's any update and no, it's
about eleven hours old.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (57:42):
And then everybody's like, you know what about Hawktua?

Speaker 6 (57:45):
They find her?

Speaker 3 (57:46):
It was like, all right, oh gosh, you got to
give him that hawk that night.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
It's the two that gets me. Everything is man like
the hawk is one thing.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
But she really did just kind of disappear a crypto thing.

Speaker 11 (58:06):
She she almost went to jail for quite some time.
She had a crypto fraud thing.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
Why didn't she go to jail for that?

Speaker 10 (58:13):
By the way, I don't know. I don't understand it.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Because of the hot.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
There's hot to everyone and they're like, I will, we'll,
We'll let you go this time.

Speaker 11 (58:23):
Pet isn't there a hawk man? I was like, yeah,
there's a hot girl, and there's a hot to a.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Girl, Petris. Do you respect her or Costco? Ho more
the hoe? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (58:34):
I like the Costco.

Speaker 11 (58:35):
You liked the way sheco just had a big breast reduction.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
Though, Really, isn't that a slap in the face to god?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
She might have had fake ones I put those moreheads.
I mean still, I.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Mean, in all serious this, I think that uh her
brain the other way around. No one's like, yeah, I
got to take some off here.

Speaker 10 (59:00):
They were enhanced and now she's probably over it.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Why why unenhanced them?

Speaker 6 (59:04):
I don't know. I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Now can she still be the what the costco? What
the costco? Can she still be the costco?

Speaker 10 (59:13):
Come you guys, don't pull any costco ho for me.
You do it better.

Speaker 11 (59:19):
I love the cost Nobody does it better than the
Costco HO. I mean, but she's got less to dip
now in the aisles.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
Uh, Petro's always good job really broke that down for us,
everything from the costco hospreast reduction to USC football lack
of complimentary black falconer.

Speaker 11 (59:42):
There he is the blind said after the game, Brady,
did you go like, hey, what happened there?

Speaker 6 (59:46):
Buddy?

Speaker 7 (59:47):
What?

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (59:50):
We actually had to do like a really quick like
it was like a minute thirty pill. Everyone was so quick,
So I don't know that anyone said anything. It was like,
all right, you have fifteen. We're like kid Win of
my Illinois Luke Altmeyer, We're off air. Like it was
like a really really bad quick deal.

Speaker 10 (01:00:07):
Yeah, how'd that go for you?

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
There?

Speaker 10 (01:00:09):
Matt?

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
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