Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Today on the Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington kick things off by recapping the Thursday Night Football matchup between the 49ers and the Rams. Next, they dive into the MLB postseason and react to the biggest headlines coming out of it. Finally, the guys look at Duke Head Coach Jon Scheyer getting a contract extension.

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Speaker 3 (01:10):
What a day?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yesterday sports huh, yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Thursday football was awesome Magdas and then you've got Major
League Baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I mean, there were some decent games.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
By the way, I know, we're probably not supposed.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
To do Guardians last well, listen, Tan.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
We're probably not supposed to be rooting for one side
or the other. But I gotta say I was really
happy the forty nine ers one last night. I really
wanted that the Rams no, just from the from the
simple fact that they were eight and a half point
underdogs going in yet all the injuries, all of that

(01:47):
stuff that they were dealing with, they go on the
road they took.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Over so Far to deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah. Yeah, and even in the game they go, they
going to Sofi, they take the place over again. And
then somehow, some way, somehow, some way, Mac Jones, who
looks like he's literally straight out of the nineteen eighties,
well it goes and they're slinging it around and they

(02:13):
end up winning the game, and they do it on
a defensive stand in overtime. It was awesome. Great game,
is uh.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
I mean, By the way, you can go through the
history of Kyle Shanahan versus Sean McVay, but Shannan owns him.
He absolutely owns him head to head. And I'll give
you a stat here in a minute, but there's gonna
be something to that, right.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
McVeigh just doesn't feel like he can get over. I mean,
I know he's won a super Bowl, he's been the two,
and it's still been elusive to Kyle, But I mean,
I don't know, man, every time they go head to
head and I feel like Kyle gets the better of
the two.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
He does.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
I mean, it's been it's been highlighted as well. I
thought it was an interesting game because I didn't think that.
I don't know. I still feel like their fool's goal.
But for some strange reason, they continue to win, and
they proved me to be wrong. I just wonder if
this is a like what the Pittsburgh Steelers were when

(03:15):
they won nine games. I was in nine games they
went undefeated, and and a lot of people just couldn't
get there, couldn't get convinced that the Steelers were that team.
I still still feel like I'm on that I'm on
that train. But you gotta give Kyle Shanahan and Xercees

(03:38):
a ton. I mean a ton of credit. Man, what
pretty well. I mean by they don't they never put
they never put mac Jones in a position where he
was uncomfortable. You know, all the plays he did, he did.
He played with grit, but they played with them what

(04:01):
they felt he was going to be best at doing,
and he did it. You know, he delivered the passes
where you know, where they were effective, where where it
seemed like it was safe. I mean there wasn't. I
don't think he turned the ball over. I don't think
that they took took many shots. If I recall, I

(04:23):
think they stayed within his what his comfort zone was
in terms of where he threw the ball. The offensive line,
I felt like both both line of scrimmages for the
forty nine ers did did an excellent job. And I
thought it was a well played game. I thought that
the Rams got going kind of late. I wonder what

(04:44):
would have happened if they played, you know a little
bit better quicker out of the gate. Obviously, to fumble
on on the goal line, I think that was the
deciding factor of the game. If you ask me, I
thought it was over if they scored that touchdown. But
you know, that's how football. Football plays out sometimes, and

(05:04):
some way, somehow they were able to get it to
overtime and win the game.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So another block kick, by the way, another block pa.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Against the man against them.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I'm sure the fans who felt like they had the
momentum too, when I forget who it was, but they
got stopped for for momentum.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
The ball came out, but they're they're like, oh, you know,
it's it.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
It looked like it could have been a fumble. But
you know, again, I thought that was a well officiated play.
It looked like the ball did come out while he's
still up, but at that point they had already given
him for momentum, so the play was kind of over.
But yeah, there's a little bit of controversy to it.
I just eleven eleven and seven. By the way, Kyle
Shanahan versus Sean McVay during the course of the regular season. Now,

(05:50):
the only time they've met in the postseason that was
I believe in the NFC Championship Game, and McVeigh did
win that.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
To go to the Super Bowl. So it's the beating
but an account.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, But I mean, I think you can make the
case of the regular season counts two when.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
You're playing at seven. Isn't that bad? I thought it
might have been worse than that.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
That's not yeah, I thought it was too so I
must have changed a little bit of late. But he
still has a strong lead, you know.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Speaking of play call, I mean, uh, officiating. So you
talked about the fumble, which, by the letter of the
law the rule, that's fine. I can I can accept it.
There's a couple of things that I was watching that
I was like, Okay, when a person's forward progress is stopped,

(06:39):
I find it to be interesting that, Okay, the ball
carrier will continue to run and if for some reason
his forward progress begins some way, somehow, it seems as
though forward progress getting stopped isn't a consistent thing. It's
almost like, Okay, they knocked him back, but then he

(07:00):
started going forward again, or somebody knocks him forward, somebody
runs into the guy and blows him forward. I just
it weirds me out the way that some of these
rules are are set up, because if he gets to
a forward progress position and he continues to try and

(07:22):
the defense knocks him back, the ball should be spotted
where he gets knocked back to where he gets knocked
down to the ground something to that effect, because if
he gets knocked forward, that ball is going to be
moved forward to where his his forward progress is eventually
stopped or he hits the ground. It's a weird it's

(07:45):
it's weird to me the way it's officiated. And I
can't stand that offensive guy can put his hand on
a defender's face. It makes absolutely no sense. And these
calls on these these quarterbacks, it is. It is borderline offensive.
As a former player watching the way they call plays

(08:07):
against against defenders. When playing against quarterbacks, those three, don't
put your hand in the dude's face because if you
put your hand in his face, it's a face mask.
And forward progress, all right, If it's going to be
forward progress, then stop dudes from running into the pals,
stop dudes from running in, pushing dudes, grabbing dudes, because

(08:30):
for what it's worth, when you are stopped, you are stopped,
and your forward progress is stopped in the play should
be dead. So there shouldn't be any reason for anybody
to come running up trying to push and grab and
pull somebody because you didn't you didn't get that forward
progress continued. Somebody else did. Just just me on my soapbox.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
That's well again, I mean I think that that plays
into the touch push and what's allowed right down in
the NFL, so that that all plays a role in that.
I think it goes both ways if you're really being
honest about like, you know, guys jumping on piles and
at the end, I mean there's a Georgia player which
is you know, probably the best example of that this
past weekend in college football for flying in at the

(09:10):
end end up getting a personal foul. But I think
the bigger issue that I was more bringing up or
drawing lights to, is it's not a reviewable play. So
what's really interesting about that is when there is a
potential turnover in this case, which it looked like it was.
Once ford progress is ruled and the whistle's blown, they're like,

(09:34):
now we can't go back and review that. It's like,
all right, well, it feels like it should be able
to probably because that would have helped out the defense
in this case. But that's the rule. So I understand
your frustration. I think there's some frustrations with like what's
reviewable and what could ultimately be a you know, a
game change. I should say, a momentum changing play, because

(09:54):
at that moment it was like, all right, the Rams
starting to kind of pour it back on, Yeah, and
it he started to get a little tighter, and you
just kind of wonder, like, all right, well Mac Jones.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
The Mac Dad.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Will he be able to sustain this, you know, and
be able to battle with them or is this just
kind of a hot start opening drive early? Some early
good plays. But but he was I mean it dide
a lot of credit. I mean, he was gritty. You know,
at one point Herbstreet thought he wasn't coming back in
the game. You know, he comes back in and and

(10:26):
and delivers like this was a huge moment I think
for him, not only with his career, but also like
what's the rush to bring brock Pretty back? You go back,
you look two weeks ago the only loss, and you're like,
all right, well, well.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Why did they bring back brock Pretty again so early?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
If he was just going to come in for one
game and then you know, clearly show he's not ready
to be back.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, he reaggravated at Shannan said he's going to be
weak to week now.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
I mean, all right, I would ride Mac Jones this
entire time.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I think he's very capable of helping this team.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
I am with LeVar on this, like there is something
about this team that the record doesn't look as good
as they You know they look on the field, But.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
You are before what your recon says. You are right,
you are what you are.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
When when I heard them say this is the toughest
division in all of the NFL, I was like, what
you know, there's a lot of parody. I just don't
think it's the toughest division. I still I still think
it's the North. Look at it this way, look at
it this way. There's not a team below five hundred

(11:33):
in the division. When they did it, I was I
was shocked.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Now you can say that was.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Right, like the NFC North, you can say that, but
you've only got one team. I guess you count the
package because they're two one to one. But there's there's
not many other divisions you can really say that about.
So that's that's.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
What they said. The records, I was blown away. Like
the Niners have a good record, the Rams have a
good record, Seahawks have a good record, even even the
Arizona Cardinals. I have five hundred. So when he said it.
I was like, what, But then I was like, man,
like their records are pretty decent. I don't, I don't know.

(12:13):
I just I'm not a buyer. And last night it
was like the Rams. I felt like they were the
They should have been the better team considering all of
the things that the Niners are dealing with and continued,
as we mentioned, to deal with during the course of
this game. It's just, I don't know. The NFL is

(12:36):
a confusing place, man. It really is like when you
thought you've got kind of like, uh, you know, maybe
a good a good read on on one of the teams,
you just you just don't. You know. It's like they
find a way. That coaching job was so bang up
for for the Niners. I mean, whatever it is that
they did, they were able to neutralize what what the

(12:59):
Rams come out and did best this season defensively and
and on the offensive side of the ball. I mean,
I don't know, man, Its just it just seemed as
though there was so much balance with how they were
calling the game on both sides that I was impressed.

(13:19):
I will say that I was impressed.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Did we get any clarity on whether or not chan
An was a gremlin or was he a goblin?

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Well's I said gremlin with the idea of I didn't
put it in you know, I didn't put goblin, you know,
or goon because it's like, what's a goon to a goblin?
And it's a lyric from Lil Wayne. But yeah, I
thought it was creative of Louis to throw that out there.
But I mean, he he he was in his bag, bro,

(13:50):
he was in his bag. They had a little luck
play out on their side. Like I said, I ain't
gonna I ain't gonna lie about that, but I mean
the way they called that game was was pretty He's
pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
When he asked, can I also real quick and just
point out one thing the I think it was a
touchdown pass that was low to Poka Niku at the
goal line, that Stafford through Herbstree. There's two things that
I'd pick out about Herbstree. And I don't mean to
pick on him. I just I don't know, what do
you guys notice.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Like how far he's fallen from what he used.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
To be as a game analyst to the point where
you can go back and notice he would not say
used Check's name. He kept saying forty four for San Francisco,
like he would not say Kyle use Check's name. I
have no idea why a buddy and I were texting
each other during him, So I'm like, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Like he can say use Check like he said some
really difficult names. I don't.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
I don't know if he's forgetting in the moment or
if he just hadn't seen it before it doesn't know
how to pronounce it. That was the first thing that
stood up to me. And then he tried to make
a comparison to that La Rams play and in the
Seattle Seahawks play in the Super Bowl versus the Patriots
where Malcolm Butler intercepted it, and I'm here to tell
you they're definitively different for a bunch of reasons. I mean,

(15:10):
Stafford being under set one. That play was called that
way the entire time. That was the play they were
going to run. He tried to make it look like
it was like a run pass option.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
It wasn't. They're gonna run that play the whole time.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
In the instance of the Seattle play, they did that
a shotgun, which is the entire reason why that play
didn't work because there was so much timing between the
two and it's actually a two man route concept. It's
not what the Rams were basically doing with it being
a single man route screen that's throwing low at the
goal line.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
But I sit there and listen and watch it go.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
My god, Like I used to think he was the
best of the business, and now I'm like he's in
all seriousness, Like there's just too much. It's too much,
like between Thursday night, Saturday morning and then Saturday night,
it's too much.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
No, he's probably trying. He's probably trying to feed his
dog during the game, So key guy can't holpi.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Ask I mean, or keep his dogs away from whatever
birds they're trying to try to utilize there.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, he's got stuff going on in the booth man.
By the way, you mentioned the mac daddy who just
went through it last night. He was talking with Amazon
Prime Video and he was talking with Haley cart or
Kaylee Hartongue. Jesus, easy for me to say postgame on
the field, after the big win, take me through what.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
Your body experience tonight, because down to the end there
we could see how uncomfortable you looked on the sidelines.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
Yeah, I'm good I just can't show it, so that's
all me.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
But I'm really proud of the defense.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
They played great.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Offense did great until.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
We had one sackle game and it was on me.
So they did an amazing job.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
And I'll be final, it.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Looked like cramping the in there. I was worried about.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
That's what happened to the don't practice for a couple
of weeks, So that's my fault.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
What was your swing of emotions through the course of overtime, so.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Be honest, like emotionless.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
I just trust the guys and none of that matters. Really,
It's just about one point at a time, and I
know that they had in my back and either way
we fought it would have lost. I still would have
been really proud of everybody because just the way we
fought and how our team scounts back.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
When you guys came out firing. What is it about
his system in San Francisco and Kyle Shanahan that is
allowing you to have so much success?

Speaker 7 (17:19):
Yeah, I mean Kyle came up to me before the
game and he was pissed how we were underdog. So
he was like, just let it fly, and I was like, coach,
you don't have.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
To tell me twice.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
So we made that happen, and just happy for the guys.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
What a great team win.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, love me some Mac Jones. He's back, baby.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I've tried telling you guys if you sat down with him,
he's hilarious. He actually he's got a really quick wit
and like a great kind of sense of humor. He's
almost like a little bit goofy. And I've known this
kid forever since he was in high school and he
did this under armour camp and I loved how competitive
he was back then.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
But what you saw was a.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Guy like again, he was at the same campus Trevor Lawrence,
and so it's kind of like that meme where you're like,
what where they see the guy walking with one chick
and he's like looking over his shoulder at the other
Like Mac Jones was like the chick you're walking with,
and then Trevor Lawrence is like the chick everyone's looking at.
And just because I mean that kid could throw a
football when he was in junior in high school, likenlike
anything you've ever seen. So in that moment, you like

(18:18):
you didn't appreciate a lot of the things about how
mac operated. He won the competition that day, but even
once he got into college, like taking over at Bama,
how he managed that, how he waited his turn. He
was he's just always been like a very even keeled
young man, a guy who kind of like I don't

(18:39):
want to say is unflappable, because I do think he
has to deal with a lot of stuff. But you
go back to the disaster that was New England post
Tom Brady and some of the decisions that Bill Belichick made, which,
by the way, now that we're looking at everything at
you and c like his staff, which is essentially like the.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Definition of nepotism, whatever.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
The hell is going on with his involvement with his
girlfriend running things or being a part of it. At
the lack of success, they're having a unc and then
you kind of go look up the end of how
things worked in New England. You're going, all right, this was, uh,
this might have been a little bit more of a
crap show.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Than we realize, but he had to endure that.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Like he goes to a Pro Bowls first year, the
only time he has a normal offensive coordinator, and then
after that they're like, yeah, we're gonna make Matt Patricia
an off its corner. Matt Patricia is a really good
defensive mind and coach. To put him in that position,
to put Mac in that position, to have those guys
trying to figure out, you know, during the course of
a year, was just that disaster. And so then he

(19:39):
kind of gets like gets thrown around for a while,
and finally he's in a position with a good organization,
tools and a great offensive play.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Caller, and you see what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Like you go back two weeks ago, and I know
Proak pretty threw for a lot of yards, but Mac
Jones could have done the same thing and he probably
would have hit some of those throws controvers So I
just I'm really happy for the young man. But you
could see why, like the forty nine ers probably feel
very comfortable with letting Brock get back one hundred percent healthy,
because this is a guy.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Guy's root fo one hundred and ten percent healthy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
But in all serious it's like he's he's funny, like
he's got some of that like Kirk Cousins kind of
nerdiness that guy's in the locker room. Will respect though
when he plays tough, when he does certain things like
when he got up when he was kind of down,
you know, checking out his knee when he came over sidelines,
and everyone's.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Loving his pants were falling off front.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
They didn't pulled the man's ass out.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
His pants were falling off. He looks like he's straight
out of the He looks like he's straight out of
the nineteen eighties. And then he's wearing this down joy
that gave him a cramp. And then I think they
showed him on the sideline that he was he was
starting to dry he arm, Yeah, because he was because
he probably tried to take in so many fluids during
the game that when he went down and got hit

(20:55):
in the side, he was about to puke because he
was trying to catch up on his electure lights during
the game. I think he's great. I love the game.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
I'm telling you, man, he is hilarious. If you guys
ever get a chance, man, I wish we could get
him on buddy. They're obviously out on the West Coast,
but he's he's a funny dude.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
That was a good win. Good win for the Niners
and UH and they are in control in that division.
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But right now, it is time for the tire rack
play of the day. Fourth down and.

Speaker 10 (26:13):
One for the Rams.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Niners lead by three, a chance to win it with
a stop.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Here in overtime.

Speaker 9 (26:19):
Stafford gets under center at the eleven yard line.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
He takes it, he turns, he gives the Karen Williams.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
He gets packed.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I think he's short him.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
I think he's.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Short, and the forty nine Ers.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
Storm the field.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
It is all over.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
The forty nine Ers have won it in overtime. Here
in La forty nine Ers Radio Network on the calls
to those fans, by the way, to completely take over
that stadium. It's such a bad look for the Rams.
It's awful.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
And there's no Ronnie Lot yesterday. Yeah, you can know
forty nine ers. How's he feel about it?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
I wasn't with him before the game, I mean after
the game was early. I was with him before. Yeah,
it was early right, oh yeah, while Brady was relieving him,
so you know, yeah, what's going to be.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well, no, give them the time change.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
I may have been taking a dump at that time,
but not at not at eight thirty am Pacific.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Oh a thirty am your your time? Yeah yeah, so
it would have been eleven while I was eight here
your time. Okay, so you've had long gone taken taken.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Potentially I could have been right back, right back there. Yeah,
well okay, how'd that gobot?

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Are you still there at the Rose?

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Well, we know you've had some traveling issues this week,
so we didn't know if the Oregon Trail stayed in pass.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
I'm back. I'm literally back on the Oregon Trail as
soon as the show's over. So I'm surprised my daughter today.
Hopefully it's still surprised after saying it on the show.
But I assume they're all still sleep and I won't
get to her.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Before I get to Organs back East or North.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
No, No, she's she's at organ.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
She she's yeah. I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Now, so I'm gonna jump in there and then I'm
gonna jump right back out a man travel with the team.
He wasn't a traveler unfortunate circumstances, but you know, he traveled.
So I'm excited about getting back and seeing if he
may possibly possibly maybe get a special teams wreck. Maybe

(28:18):
that would be nice to see.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
That'd be awesome. But after Rose Bowl, yeah great cool.
I mean, I don't think anyone for UCLA will be there.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
I don't know after that loss we took, I don't
know that we'll be there.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
I maybe wait and see see how that all plays.

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all all I did. That's all I got. How about
the Major League base Shapiro Playoffs? Major League Baseball Playoffs
maybe living up to all the hype.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Happy happy for the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Happy for the Yankees that that game wasn't really they
kind of controlled it from start to finish.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
That was tough to watch for Red Sox fans.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
By the way, the Guardians hell of a run.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Well, yeah, I was gonna say, look, we were happy
to be there. You know, we were the team that
walked into the Wow Carol, Hey, how's everyone doing? Happy
to be here? And look they took it the game three.
So yeah, at one point, if you would have said
it the All Star Break, that the Guardians would have
made it into the playoffs, you'd be like, all right,
you were what are you drinking some.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Of that a month ago? You said it like they
were out of it, and it took. It was a
simultaneous comeback and gag job at the same time, the Tigers,
Gaga and the Cleveland Guardians bringing back you know, the
old Major League, you know, just peeling off pieces of
clothing to try and get the guys motivated back in

(30:10):
the movie and Mike Jones and them, Yeah they were
tribe time, baby, and so got all the way back.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
And then, by the way, Cubs, that's right, little controversy though,
they're a little bit I'm just saying a little bit
that that that particular pitch will be a ball next year.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yes, So I'm just letting you know, Yeah, let you
know they've got.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Well, LeVar, if you you're not happy with the officiating,
you'll be happy with this. The automatic uh, the A
B S system they're bringing in is going to be
to wear a batter. I think it's the batter or
the catcher can tap the their their helmet to get
a call, a strike, call looked at again, a striker,
a ball looked at again, and they'll review it quickly

(31:00):
to see on the zone whether or not it is
a ball or a strike. And then I think you
get to a game and last night, in a pivotal
three to two count, a blatant mist that was called
a strike. The padres are not happy. They end up
losing the game, and they were going after the umpires.
There's a video you can see where the umpires are

(31:21):
leaving through the padres dugout and they're like having to
be held back because they're screaming at the umpires.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
So, I mean, it was a pretty pivotal moment.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
And by the way, the ABS system stands for the
automated ball strike challenge system.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Tang and just tell that's only for three letters. There's
a lot more words there.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Tap that helmet.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
It kind of sounded funny to the way you said it.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
So at least, hey, they're doing their part. You know,
they've tried to try to clean up some of that stuff.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Ball system.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, I mean, look, I think you're gonna have less
controversy on things like that, which I would actually go
as far as saying there is no professional sports league
that's implemented.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
I shouldn't say this yet.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
I guess next year I'll say this, but they've implemented
replay the best, I feel like of any professional sport.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Oh, baseball, Can I go that far and saying that, Yeah,
I was used several times last night, and for the
most part, they got the calls right based on.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
The it's quick, it's efficient, they get the call right,
they move on like there's there's no I mean, honestly,
like tennis probably is the one that like has it
best utilized now, but starting next year, being able to
eliminate like a ball that's clearly not in the shrike
zone and a pivotal moment that would have probably ended
up in some san Diego. I think you sit there

(32:43):
and you go, okay, like next year, this is going
to feel completely different. Cobs fans, they're pucking up a
little bit, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
I mean I was. I was texting Jonahs, Oh we
got out of the ending okay.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh no, listen, I've been through this game before.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
It's what it sound like.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
This is not my first rodeo.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I also think that Major League Baseball did that kind
of pushed this to possibly happening. When you watch a
game now, they put the strike zone box on the screen,
so now everybody.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Can see, well, that's not major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Well major League Baseball, ESPN, Fox, whoever's calling everybody.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
But people have to start doing stop doing that because
someone else.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Was like, oh man, you know it's wild card, like
you know, be the league wants these teams playing in
the World Series, like well, first off, just so people understand.
The League's like, all right, all right, it's out of
our hands now. It's it's the playoffs like the best
two teams will eventually score off for it. It's the
TV networks that want the big brands. Yes, the TV networks,

(33:45):
Like I'll be open and say that they went ratings.
They want the big brands the league like all right,
you know, like they're not gonna sit there like cater
always to the Yankees or the Dodgers or whoever else.
Like is that the perfect scenario. Yeah from a viewership
ship standpoint, But that's because the TV partners that's what
they want. So but like the box all that so

(34:07):
the technology, that's all, that's.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
All the TV networks. I think it's that's all like
Major League base was like, we need to put that
box up there.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I think it's been great. I also think it's exposed
a lot of the bad calls, but I think it
also showcased that there's a lot of really tight calls
that they get right. Like umpires get majority of these
calls right. But unfortunately it's moments like that where you
look at and go, oh, the umpire, the the you know,
they were awful, they couldn't call balls and straight for
the most part, they got them right. That was just

(34:34):
a pivotal moment to where they got it wrong. And
so you know, some Padre fans are going to bitch
and moan about it because they've basically sold their entire
farm system at the deadline to make deals to make
a deep run and now they're at home. Hey hey, brother,
blame Fernando Tatis for having one hit in this in
the series, all right, blame guys for not running to
first Like there's a lot of other things that could

(34:55):
have impacted that game. A right, Cubs are moving on
now we got the brew crew.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, it'll be a tough out. The other thing I
was thinking about is the NFL officials have it's so
difficult with replay because the way the way you see
plays that are reviewed in the NFL, everything's slowed down
so much where these guys and to your point, kind
of about with with the umpires and all that, Like

(35:22):
it's kind of like a different system, so they're able
to go quickly go back check was a strike?

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Was it not?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
That hit the zone? That are not?

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Okay, we're moving on. At least that's how it will
be in the future. But with the element of replay,
like they're not exposed as much because to your point,
they get them right ninety five to ninety eight percent
of the time. Yeah, Like they're really good. And it's
the same thing with the NFL officials. The problem is
NFL officials have to deal with the element of like
slow mo, where like everything you could distort or or

(35:51):
pull a certain way, especially when it comes down to
like was it a catch, you know, was the guy
you know in or around as he's going down to
have control or possession of it. There's so much subjectivity
to it, and it makes it worse because of replay,
whereas it with Major League Baseball it's it's kind of
clear cut, like what you're looking for and what you're
trying to, you know, figure out from the replay.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Like I don't think there is. They're subject to the
slow mo having to deal with the difference how it
how it really is in real time.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Lebar, what do we gotta do to get you the baseball?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
I thought you guys did an excellent job. Come on,
come get that was proud of you guys. I was
sitting there and I.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Was like, man, he's got baseball fever.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Come on, come on. I know, I know exactly, I
know exactly what we can do. We can get him
some depends. Yeah, he can sit there, get this nice
lounge ship, go ahead and just just let it go.
Just do let it go, but work.

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Speaker 5 (37:51):
Thank god for the Internet.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
I don't know are you? Uh, I don't know where
you find out. I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Are you a problem? I want you to know that sincerely.
Just take a You're on a slippery slope.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Bro, good god, Oh my god, what do you mean
by that? How do they fit two battleships on a
shot class? You gotta be kidding me. That's a huge bitch,

(38:36):
don't I don't even know what to believe anymore. You
go on Instagram and it's like, all right, is this fake?

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Is it? AI?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Like, I BA, take your word for it. We did
have we did have somebody who was rewarded. That would
be Duke head coach John Shire has been extended uh
through the twenty thirty twenty three prety one season. Uh

(39:01):
so this was the guy who was picked to take
over after Mike Krzyzewski. He's uh slowly but surely gotten
the Duchies back to prominence. They've had some good recruiting,
they've had some great players. Whatever the hell that collapse
was in the final four last year and not ideal
with Cooper flag and in a game that they looked
like they were in control of over Houston. But it

(39:25):
does say something for somebody who takes over for a
name like Mike Krzyzewski and at least it feels like
he's got him heading in the right direction, because that
can't be the easiest job in the world. I can't
imagine who ever took over for Joe Pie after he
left had the easiest job in the world to try
and try.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
And go in there. That's probably the worst compares that ever.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I mean from a I mean from a football standpoint,
I mean, yeah, yeah, that was situation. Okay, well from
a football I know.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
You're trying to get levard to talk about it, but
I'm not sure that's the there we got in the
Shire session.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
I mean, I'm listen, it is. If they feel like
it's the best decision for the Duke program, great, you know,
I'm a Duke fan. Obviously, they they have our guy
there as the head coach of the football team, and
Manny Diaz. I really liked Manny, but I mean Duke,

(40:25):
you know, if you know basketball, you know that Duke
always has a formidable line up, a formidable team, and
the standard you know, has been set by quite a few.
You know, there's a short list of guys who have
coached the game that have impacted the game from the
the level that Mike Shizhski has. And yeah, man, when

(40:47):
you have to follow a guy that has had all
that success, all the players that he's coached, and and
and just all the accolades that go along with just
a brilliant career with what what Mikeski did. If you're
if you're able, I always say, you never want to
be that first guy. You want to actually be the
next guy after, you know, because you get the opportunity

(41:08):
to come in and somebody else took all the all
the bullets for what you were going to take, not
possibly living up to being what that legend was that
you're replacing. Sometimes that doesn't work that way.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Kayalen bounce back, Kalen de Boris, bounce back.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
He's quite a lot of people for one week.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
For one week, you know, that's how it works.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
For a week.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
I would say this though, Shire's off to a really
good start. You know, not a lot of people go
back and look at the Duke program before coach K
got there. Really took him until it was fourth season
where they made the tournament. I mean, think about that
for a second. Like it it took until coach K's
fourth season before they made the NCAA tournament. So granted,

(41:51):
this is going back in the nineteen eighties, but Shire
has been able to take a program that had one
of the most recognizable figures running it for such a
long period of time, and the model of consistency too
with his success there that it's hard to put your
own stamp on it, but I think John Shire has

(42:12):
done that. They've gotten better every single year. I think
they got bounced out in the round of thirty two
Elite eight Final four, and honestly in the Final four,
like Houston was one of those hot teams. They had
a six point lead with forty seven seconds left. Gag
jo Yeah, I thought it was an awful foul they
called on Cooper flag off that free throw, which ultimately
led to Houston taking the lead and Duke losing that game. Now,

(42:35):
I'm not sure even if Duke wins if they beat Florida,
but at the end of the day, all the number
one seeds made it. He was a part of that,
you know, kind of chalky group of high expectations. Can
they make it through?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
They didn't.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
So I love what he's done. I think he's done
it in his own style, zone way. It's a long
term extension form, which is great, I think, great for recruiting,
great for him personally. I do look at it and
just wonder, you know, would he leave people had talked
about so I don't think so, you know, and look

(43:09):
maybe not, you know, maybe he've used this as a
job that he'll be at like ketch k was until
he retires, and maybe this is that job that if
you coveted enough, you know, Duke, North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
I'm not sure what other ones fall into that category.
Are there other Yukon?

Speaker 5 (43:29):
Well, I would always see that for it to be
as as blue blood as it is, what would be
the determining factor of if you would stay or if
you would leave? Outside of obvious money? He played there,
he played at Duke, So to me, I would think
that the you know, the sentimental value of being able

(43:49):
to coach your alma mater, and it is a blue
blood program. Where else are you going to go where
you would have the type of feelings that you would
have going to the place where you played, and you
know ultimately you're there coaching that.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
That's why I felt your dream job. That's why I
felt bad for like Mike Gundy, although that you know
he had a long time there. But Scott Frost, how
disastrous that was? Like like that's got to leave a
real sour taste in your mouth, Like, hey, I'm going
back to where it all started and then it ends
the way that it did. And I wonder how many
jobs in college football would you say that's the place

(44:27):
you don't leave, like a blue blood in college football
where you say I'm not leaving here, because I.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Mean I would have said Notre Dame. And so Brian
Kelly left, he's different. How's that working out for you?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Like, but if you think about it, because in college basketball,
yet Kentucky Duke, North Carolina, Kansas.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Yeah, but cal Perry left Kansas.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
How did I fail to remember Kansas cheese?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Well they've you know, sorry, it's not been the same.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
No, I mean it's a blue blood. I should have
been you know, you would have said Indian not twenty
years ago?

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Right?

Speaker 3 (45:01):
And this I mean back in LeVar when you were
in college, like Indiana, was the team.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Football wise or basketball? Basketball? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Basketball? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I mean that that program.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
I think a tough part too, is is how they
handle the transition, you know, from certain legend is you know,
coach k to John Shire was probably easier than Bobby
Knight to whoever was next like that, just you were
not going to emulate that style again, you probably could
never even coach that way again.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
But would you.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Look at Indiana since then, they've struggled, been any good? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
And that's a program that has all the resources.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
If you don't think any program is if you ask,
is there programs that exist that you wouldn't want to leave? Sure,
it's the job that you have. And when you want
to leave is when there is an opportunity that comes
your way that is worth leaving. And and that's just
that's just the reality of it. So it's listen, it's

(46:04):
hard to get jobs. And then you get a job
out of place like Duke, even if I wasn't an
alumni of the school, to get a quality gig like that,
why would you ever want to leave outside of Again,
what the obvious would be, which is I get a
better opportunity with stability. Maybe they give me a guarantee contract,

(46:27):
Maybe they give me a little bit more power in
terms of what I'm able to do as the coach.
The resources that are coming our way as a program,
like there are things that practically, you know, the practical
thought of it. Yeah, you wouldn't leave even if it
was a blue blood, a traditional amazing college. But I

(46:49):
would find it hard to believe that if you go
to a place that really really has that type of
a program like Duke has. There's probably so much there
in terms of resources that it wouldn't make sense to leave,
other than to think that maybe the inevitable was coming,
which was they were probably thinking of getting getting rid

(47:11):
of you anyway, something to that effect.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I would say, where would you say if James Franklin
or if Marcus Freeman were to leave that you would say, Oh,
that's a step up from where you are. I don't
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Yeah, somebody say for Marcus Ohio State because that's his
alma mater, and it is, you know, it's a program
that has been built up, it's had a ton of success,
It's obviously had success versus Notre Dame. So I think
some might throw that in there, but I just, I mean,
I'm not sure what are their jobs out there in

(47:47):
college football?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
You've thrown that category.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
I don't think there is. I think there's a you
could go. But I think him even going to Ohio
State would be a parallel or excuse me, a horizontal move.
It'd be a side step. I don't think that would
be a step up in terms of brands. I don't
think it would be a step up. Like you said,
the sentimental value that he was a LB there like, Okay,

(48:13):
that may make sense, but I mean sometimes familiarity can
can breed, you know that that whole contempt, and sometimes
it could work against you. You know, like people expect
things of you, you know, whatever it may be. It
may be fear maybe unfair, but it isn't always great

(48:35):
going to be at the place where you came from.
You know, you're just you just may be judged differently. So,
I mean, you mentioned Scott Frost, and how do you
feel after after you've been what you've been to them
as a player, you go there and it doesn't work
out the way you like, because at some point it's
not going to work out, Like that's kind of the

(48:55):
coaching the coaching profession. At some point it's not going
to work out. So at that point in time, how
do you feel about the breakup? Like is it worth?
Is it worth ruining your your feelings of the institution
that that you went and got educated at.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
It's got a tainted for a little bit at least,
it's got to, if not forever, got to feel like
you were let down, Because what coach ever feels like.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
They really should be fired. I mean honestly, like give
me another chance, Like you're a competitor, Like, give me
a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Time, Mike, Mike. So, Mike Gundy was at in Stillwater
for thirty five years in some capacity, and he could
probably I mean, there's probably hard feelings and he's bummed out,
but I would say after a certain amount of time,
I could see him being like, yeah, but you know what,
it was a great run to just run its course.
Scott Frost was a disaster, Like it was bad.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Well, I mean, I mean it looks bad the way
it ended, we can we can call it a disaster.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
There was some issues kind of early on, there was
times where you felt like maybe they were about ready
to kind of break, you know, kind of build it up,
and it just never really got there. And I think
part of the issue is and Matt Ruhle's done a
great job now and looking at their administration office now
and how they view Nebraska is a lot of the
older blue blood programs they have to kind of change
the way they think and see their program within today's world.

(50:20):
Like it's almost like when people say that phrase like
meet people where they are, it's the exact same thing
to me when you go about hiring a coach for
some of these blue blood programs, like you have to
meet that program where they are. Too many times or
too often you'll find programs that are blue blood programs
that are living the past and they're trying to meet

(50:41):
a coach who's trying to take them into the twenty
first century and they're still hanging on to the stuff
they did in the past. And then they come up
and they say, well, that's not how we do it here,
or that's not our tradition. Look, it's twenty twenty five.
The college sport world has been turned upside down. Between

(51:03):
nil the transfer portal, the amount of money that's now involved,
like there wasn't like this thirty years ago TV rights
deals even what coaches were being paid. I think Philip
Folmer is the first coach to make a million bucks.
That was like twenty five years ago. Think about that now,
guys getting like ten.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Million a year.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Was he really the first Jesus?

Speaker 4 (51:24):
And so the reality to what LeVar said too, And
the point is it's hard to stay someplace like Gundi
did or anywhere else because you'll get to a point
where someone looks the job you're doing and they think
you're overpaid.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
They think you're compensated too much.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
And when you're at john Shire, just to go back
to how we got into this subject, someone comes to
you and just says, you know, hey, you had a
subpar season, quit a great recruiting class.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
What happened?

Speaker 4 (51:51):
You know, There's gonna be times when Tho's injuries. There's
gonna be times we have bad years. There's gonna be
times when you miss on guys or guys are slow
to develop, you're not quite there. People don't want to
hear that, whether they're at some of the top programs.
They believe that they should always live at the top.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
So you know, it becomes a really, really difficult task.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
I think for it was John Shire or anyone else
who goes back to their alma mater, albeit a blue blood,
where those expectations are there every single year for them.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
So I'm happy for me you got the extension. I
think he deserves it.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
He's done a tremendous job filling in for coach k
Not many people could do something like that. But how
do you guys feel about the NCAA tournament expanding the
seventy six teams?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
And I see that, right, it's just what we need.
Let's throw some more teams in there. Why not? They
have to have more because we can't figure it out
in sixty eight teams. Let's add more. What is this
seventy six? Now? Why don't just make it an even
eighty and just.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Go from there. I mean, I don't know if you
care or not, but I look at it.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
I go all right, look at most professional sports leagues,
they don't quite have half the teams make it. It's
usually somewhere below that, like forty forty four, whatever it is.
I mean, I think about the NFL, is fourteen teams
make it now out of thirty two what's the what's
the NBA had?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
How many teams making the NBA?

Speaker 4 (53:08):
I guess if you count the plan because that really
is part of the tournament, even though it's they don't
technically make it part of the tournament.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
I'm not sure what else do you call anything after
the regular season?

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Twenty plan?

Speaker 3 (53:21):
There you go. So there's there's a much.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Greater percentage of teams, at least the pro level. This
is about, And this is the funny thing was I
was like researching this. I go how many Division one
men's basketball teams are there? And every single site was
like more than three hundred and fifty. How'm like, so
there's not an exact number like they're like, it's like
an ebbs and flows of programs that are like Division

(53:45):
one or not. Anyway, the point is if you just
seventy six, that's like football too. Yeah, but it's a
little more stable. There's like one hundred and thirty four.
Like I could give you an exact number, you know,
like last shock, I could give you an exact number.
It's just weird to you, like looking it up. It's
hard to get an exact number. But a little less
than twenty two percent of the teams would have a
shot at making it. And so I don't know if

(54:08):
like you look at that and you go, all right,
like maybe college football should have more College football is
like nine percent, there's like one hundred and thirty four
teams twelve make it something like that, which I mean
and by the way, I'm not even sure if we
could really.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
Make the harder to figure out. It would be way
harder to figure out how to keep adding teams without
impacting the season because you only have so much time, Like, yeah,
I mean the ability to be able to play the
games quicker. You know, the fact that you can play
a game today, then you can play a game after

(54:41):
one day's rest. Hell and basketball you could play it.
You could play more than one game and one day,
right right, But but.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Again you're looking back to the NFL model. You have
fourteen to thirty two. So like what you do is
you would do away with the conference championship games. And
so if you want to go to sixteen, or if
even if you want to go to thirty two, you
do it with conference championship games.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Those games are now sold as part of the expanded.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Playoff package, and then you have the regular season when
they play nine conference games or ten conference games, if
we get there, that's how they determine who the conference champions,
and they'll do it based on they'll be tie breaking
scenarios and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
But like that's ultimately how do you do it.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
I mean, that's how we do divisions in the NFL,
It's how we do I mean, we eventually playoff for
a conference championship. So maybe maybe that format, that expanded format.
You know, they play through some sort of semi final
then final for their conference and those are like part
of the playoff but also qualifiers to ultimately win the conference.
You know, maybe you go that route, But that would

(55:45):
that'd be assuming.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
That all things are equal.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
And that's the problem with college football is we don't
look at we don't look at the ACC and the
Big twelve as equals to the Big ten in the SEC.
So it kind of stands in their way of that
that thought at least. But I don't know, I don't
have a problem with it. I mean, I love that
time of year. I think it's so much fun. If
people haven't been to Vegas during that time of year,
it's it's absolutely electric.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
So you know, I don't know that the game's more fun.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I don't know if there is a solution to this.
But when I look at college basketball and I go,
what could they do to improve it? I don't think
let's add more teams to the NCAA Tournament. I think,
why don't you make the regular season better? Like the
focus should be on how can we make the regular
season more entertaining and better, especially if it's in the
middle for a decent amount, if it's in the middle
of football season, and I just like, instead it'd say, well,

(56:33):
let's just add on to to the NCAA tournament. Man
just sixty eight's fine, it's awesome, Like it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
About it is. But when has the regular season ever
mattered for college basketball?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Man?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Fact Like it used to be to where you would
get excited about big matchups in college basketball, like Big
mondays take East.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
That was when the Big East was the Big East
and stuff like that. It's not The landscape of the
game has changed so dramatically, man Like, it's it's it's
not the same. You don't get to know the players
the way that you you used to. It's the bonds
between the players and the fans, the relationship. It's not
it's it's just not the same. The landscape doesn't allow

(57:15):
for it. In college basketball. It's it's just it's very different.
It's it's very transactional, and it's always basketball has always
been a very transactional type of sport, but it's even
more so nowadays. I mean even knowing coaches is difficult.
I mean back in the day, you knew it was
a Tartanian, you knew it was a Fisher, or or

(57:35):
a Thompson, you know, a Nolan Richardson, you know, or Harrison,
Nolan Harrison. Yeah, Richard richards Richards Harrison was my teammate.
Now Nolan Harrison was my teammate U. But yeah, I
mean you knew who these guys were, and you knew
who the players were, you know, and and that's what

(57:56):
created such signature, you know, signature brands like Duke you know,
and and coaches like Mike Krzyzewski. It's not really like
that anymore. It's not. So you have a different you
have a different level of trying to market, brand and promote,
you know, the game of college basketball, especially the regular season,

(58:20):
because you don't know nobody, you know, there's no real
connection to it. You're not looking at it like, all right,
is this the team? I mean there was a little
bit of it with Duke last year, like how good
could they be? But you know, you were looking at
teams and like can this team go undefeated? And you're
looking at the coach, you know the coach, You're looking
at the players, you know the players. It's like, it's
just not like that too much anymore.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Speaking of which, I saw Rick Patino at the Yankees
game last night. Looks great, Yeah, just hanging out. Yeah,
just just watch it looks great. Yeah, it looks great.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
Italian jeans. Yeah, you know. Okay, guy, how about those Yankees.

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