October 4, 2025 • 49 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, FOX Sports Rules Analyst Dean Blandino stops by to talk about officiating issues in the NFL & CFB world so far this season, if there's any truth behind Sauce Gardner's comments on worse teams being officiating differently than winning teams, then AM570 LA Sports Host & FOX CFB Analyst Petros Papadakis joins the show to talk about the mythos that is Shohei Ohtani and USC's loss to Illinois + this week's new edition of Quinn's Wins!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar airings rating Win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And now we say hello to the man himself. He's
Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and college football rules analysts.
You can get him on x at Dean Blandino. Dean,
I gotta be honest with you. The mood changes when
that song comes on and we know that you're about
ready to come on the air with us something about it.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I got to be honest with you, I am. I mean,
I didn't expect the fencing promo right before I came in.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I mean, that's yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I'm probably probably.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
For giving me one hundred guesses on what was fencing
was like one on one and I'm into it.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Have you done fencing before?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
My oldest son did when we were living in New
York did fencing for like one, like maybe like six
weeks and it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Little kids just stabbing each It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean, one way to do it. By the way,
speaking of violence, do you think Robert sala is gonna
get fined for uh maybe allegedly uh you know, giving
a death threat?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
To Lee.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, Robert Robert sala Leam Cohen Cohen, Like that wasn't
on my Bengo card. But I mean there was a
lot of like just people chose violence the the you know,
Ben Johnson, I mean there was a lot this weekend.
It was it was is.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
It me or are these coaches hyped up on something?
They all looked like they're like teetering on I don't know,
some vitamin T or some I.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Don't know, we're not I thought the smelling soul salts
were supposed to pease banned, but you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
It feels like they're for individual consumption, right.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
I believe that's what the NFL came on set is
the teams just can't provide them, but the players.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Can use them.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Very similar to Aaron Rodgers who cracked on open right
before he took the touchdown pass, DK.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Metcalf exactly exactly, Dean, where are.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
We at on the kickoff?
Speaker 6 (02:15):
I believe based on the stats that I'm receiving from
Mike Pereira, it's made a dramatic impact on the play
itself actually being a play that matters now in football.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think this is like we've talked
about they you know, the play is back or we're pushing,
you know, seventy five, seventy six, seventy seven percent of
kicks returned, we're getting long returns, we're getting you know,
low injury ray. You know, I know, Mike, Mike, Mike
p sends the email out and he's always like he's
like com fascinated by this and like, are you, Mike,
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is it that fascinating? I mean, they just they changed it.
It's we're going to get a lot of kick returns.
But I think the league is really happy with where
where they're at. You know, they'll just continue to It'd
be interesting to see what the you know, what the
scoring numbers look like at the end of this year
with the touchback being into thirty five and where the
drive start ends up. But I think this is this
is it's good for the play and because look as
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recently as three years ago, they were talking about taking
this play out altogether. So it's been a dramatic, dramatic turnaround.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So
we brought this up earlier, and I wanted to ask
you about it because I just don't get it. So
right before halftime of the Illinois USC game on Saturday,
it looked like and there was a fumble called on
the field. Illinois fumbled the football near the goal line.
They showed replay and it looked like there was a
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clear view that he was down, yet they still kept
with the call. And it was one of those really
egregious moments to where you can't figure out, what are
you seeing that we're not seeing? Did you happen to
get a glance at the play and why was that
call kept a fumble when it looked like it was
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very obvious that he was down and on the ground.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you know, I kind of I thought he was
down as well. It just looks like and what goes
into those decisions, And it's a very high standard to overturn.
Right the language it used to be used to say
in disputable and then now it's clear and obvious, and
they really want it to jump out so it's consistent.
So it's not it's not just us looking at the
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play and looking at it for ten minutes and piecing
eight different angles together and then everybody at home going, well,
how did you change it? They wanted to really jump out,
here's the shot, here's here's the knee on the ground,
here's the ball. I think that that's where that where
I haven't really analyzed that play too closely, but I
think that's where that decision ends up. It's like, Okay,
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there's some somebody and there's multiple people involved in that decision.
You've got a replay official in the replay booth, you've
got a command center, Big ten has a command center
back in Caago, and the referee. And so if somebody
just plans one little seat of doubt, then they're going
to go, Okay, well we don't have enough. It's not
clear and obvious. We're gonna let the play. You know,
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we're going to uphold it. I think that's where that
one probably landed. And there's going to be plays like
that where you see it and you go man, I said, like,
that looks like you down. But for some reason they're
just somebody had some doubt and they let it stand.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Can I ask this, though, like, how are these officials
being coached on plays like that? Because you know, in
that instance it's a turnover, it can automatically be reviewed
then correct, So that in that case, if they called
that he was down, they can't review it, so they're
almost like better off letting it play out and then
hoping that they have a camera angle that's able to give.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Them that sort of you know, conclusive evidence. Is that
Is that how it works?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, that's one of the that's one of the little
quirks with replay is that you can still review it
if they rule them down. But if the defense picks
it up and runs it back for eighty yards, if
the officials rule it down, they can't give the advance.
So your take, if you roll down, you better be
one hundred percent sure because if there is that big
return and now replay shows that it was a fumble,
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the best they can do is give them all to
the to the you know, whichever defender recovered it at
that spot. So there is always going to be a
lean toward let it play out. I think sometimes we
see that go too far where there's like an obvious
especially on pass fumble with the quarterback right, it's an
obvious pass, and they just like kind of let it
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play out, and then everybody's kind of wondering like what wait,
what that wasn't the pass? And then replay comes in
quickly and corrects it. So there is that that element
now with replay where it's better to let it play out.
You still want the officials to roll on what they see.
If you're sure you're in good position, you see it,
call it, don't be indecisive, don't officiate to replay. But
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I mean that is a reality that the officials have
to have to deal with.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports,
NFL and College Football Rules analyst with us here on
Two Pros and a Cup of Joves. So, have you
seen anything either in the NFL or in college through
the first you know, four or five weeks of the
season that you look at and go, they got to
get better at that in a hurry. As far as inconsistencies,
anything that you've seen that is a problem right now
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from an officiating standpoint.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well, I know, if we talk about college I mean everybody,
targeting is usually the number one topic. I think, you know,
I always see there's there's there tends to be a
lot of conversation about targeting early. There's usually a spike
in the numbers because right these these these kids practicing,
they're not hitting, they're not going at full speed the
way that they do during games, you know, in in
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in fall practice and those types of things. So you
do see a little bit of an uptick. I think
everybody's kind of you get now into week five, you've
got you know, conference plays started, so I think everybody
kind of settles in. You're always going to have these
calls if you you can debate. The one thing, the
one thing I hate right now now and college football
is is the substitution. And when the offense subs and
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the defense and you see the and they milk it
and you get you get these these big defensive linemen
that are doing the wal cap job.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I love it. I love it. It's so good though,
it's so.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Good to get my car, you know. It's like that.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Just in that instance though, in that instance, do they
stop the play clock to allow for it then started
back up?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Did they still the play clock run?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh? The play clock goes. So when you sub the
way it works, the offense subs and you'll see the
you'll see the referee they put both arms out right,
and so that they call that that opens up the window.
Now the defense has three seconds to bring in their subs.
And if you don't sub within that three seconds, then
you're on your own. But then once that substitution process,
once that first sub steps on the field for the defense,
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now they get a chance to complete that substitution until
they lolligag onto the field and then okay, you know, Joe,
I'm gonna I'm gonna get in my stance. You go
off the field, and some teams are really good. Now,
if that play clock goes to zero and the and
the defense was within the referee fields like they were
within that reasonable amount of time, it's gonna be It's
gonna be the delay game.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Seez all right, I mean that's fun.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
By the way, Uh, we were talking about the eighty
Mitchell play where he fumbled the ball crossing the goal line.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh my god, that's that's that's not gonna change though,
is it.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No, it's like you would you everybody's like, everybody, oh,
this rule is could you imagine when that happens and
we say, oh, by the way, Bill, Matt somebody you know,
started to celebrate. Now we're gonna give him the ball
back at the half yard line. I mean it's a touchback.
It's the end zone. Like, don't that one.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Get in the end zone that one right there like
that deserves to go the other direction and and the
other team gets the ball. But in cases to where
it's not intentional or a guy you know, is reaching
for the goal line, only, yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Totally gets it. So it can't have two separate rules.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So is that Has that ever been brought up at all,
like in an off season?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And so what's what's the pushback on why a ball
going out of the end zone goes to the other
team plus an extra twenty yards.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's it's consistent with with the other rules in terms
of when when you when when you as a team
put the ball into your opponent's end zone, whether that's
on a punt, whether that's on a kickoff, right, a
fumble into the end zone, that's a touchback. So so
it's consistent from that standpoint. The Competition Committee's feeling was
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always the end zones different, right, that's that's it's not
like at the fifty yard line. It's it's there's a
lot of reward getting the ball into the end zone,
but there should be some risk. And look, I get it,
I get it. When the when the when the running
back is diving for the end zone and it's trying
to hit that pilon and the ball just happens to
come loose six inches from the pile and then hits it.
(11:00):
That feels really tough to make that a touchback. But
then you watch the play with the guy's celebrating and
you're like, that should be a touchback. So my thing
is it's tough to say, Okay, there's two different roles
for those two situations. I like that it's simple. I
like that it's consistent, and I just think that hey,
hold on to the football when you're near the goal line.
I think that's that's the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
It'll never make sense to me.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
I'm not sure what goes on inside a player's head
whereas that first, like let's get the touchdown first, then celebrate.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
But I digress. We had some sound from Sasagard earlier.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
He feels like if you play on a bad team,
there's just more calls against you versus some of the
better teams.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
That's essentially how we put it.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I will say this in his defense Dean Philly, and
this has become like a thing on social media. People
are putting out eclips of their DBS getting away with murder.
So yeah, I understand there's differences in crews, et cetera.
But I mean, is there anything too this as far
as what SA is.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Saying, Yeah, I don't look, I don't think. And they've
done studies and you know, ESPN did a deal where
they went back twenty years and looked at fouls against
certain teams and all the teams, and there's just no
rhyme or reason. It's different crews. It's different to cruise
change year to year. I think I think the bad
teams tend to make more mistakes. Good teams tend to
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make less mistakes. And I was I we had the
Eagles Bucks team and Queenyon Mitchell Man he is handsy
right like like he is, and and and a lot
like right hopefully.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You want to.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't want to. No, I'm not going to go there.
But but the thing is and some and look, there
were teams Seattle was great at that when the Legion
of Boom they were they would play aggressive, they would hold,
they would grab because they're like, you're not going to
call You might call it, you might call it once,
you might call it twice, You're not going to call
it six times in a row, and we're gonna win.
(13:07):
We're gonna win those other downs and so, and you
do see some of these these players. That's one guy,
you know, he got called a couple of times. He
could have gotten called a lot more. I don't think
it's not a team thing. It's just it's just the officials.
They're trying to do the best they can. It's different crews,
Like I said, they change. And I just think sometimes
over time though, you will see that even out when
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you look at the numbers, not just within one season.
It's it's over over a longer a longer period.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, do officials go into games, you know, saying, hey,
this team's got a reputation of this, be on the
lookout or you know it, Like, is there I don't
know if it's a game plan, but is there sure
any sort of scouting from an officiating standpoint, Hey, watch
out for this when this team is playing and you
have this game?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
They do they do so, they'll they'll scout, they'll look
at it, they'll look at tape on the two teams,
and they'll they'll try not to look at Hey, if
one particular player, they won't go too far down that
because then you you almost get get in your head, oh,
I got to be looking at the left tackle has
led the league in holds, and then I'm almost like
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prejudicing myself to be like, oh, focusing so much on
the left tackle, I missed something else. But there are tendencies, right,
you scout your opponent, just like the officials are going
to scout the two teams. So there are tendencies there are, Hey,
they play aggressive in the secondary, they do this, and
sure y artists they you know, they how are we
going to officiate to push those types of things. So
they are scouting, they try to stay away from, you know,
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targeting one specific player and unless it's like, hey, this
guy every play after the play, he's you know, if
if DK metcalf Is is playing Jalen Ramsey, we got
to be we got to be on top of that
at the you know, post play and then and find
those two guys because that could get out of hand.
But but yeah, they do scout, but they'll try not
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to get so focused on one player so they don't
lose other things that are happening.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Dean Blandino with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Dean, what else is going on in your life?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Man?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
I mean I feel like we just bring you on
you talk about football. I'm more curious what else is
going on.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, I'm just you know, I'm living my best life
right now. I'm you know, just traveling around with the
Fox A crew and and hey, hanging my man Brady
and and and just getting style tips from him. Did
you see him this weekend? Did you did you see
Tom with the white shirt, white tie combo? I mean, incredible, incredible,
(15:34):
it was something.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
It was something. Hey, do you ever see Ronaldi out there?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, Tom's the best Tom is he? He is like
the nicest, kindest, always like just so supportive, you know.
And we you know, I love Tom and we we
kind of made fun of him at the UH.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I don't know if you were in the room at
the time.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It was the NFL part of the seminar, and we
we we said we made fun of Tom and said,
you know, nothing nothing to be more fired up for
a day of college football watching some you know, a
Tom Ornaldi piece on some chid that lost his family
in a hot air balloon accident and is dedicating his
season to them, just with the music. Let's Nebraska Michigan.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Let's I was actually going to take a different angle
and ask you about the Italian side, like do you
guys get screw good meals in together and all that,
But clearly you took that at a different.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Definitely, definitely I passed on the jonas said the PI.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I mean listening. Let's be honest, though, if you're getting
in a hot air balloon, I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You know, is what it is.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I like my thing. Yeah, you want to make dumb choices,
then don't don't be sad when dumb things.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I'm with you. I don't get it.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
By the way, I mean forget, forget like the fact
that you really don't have much control over how those
things operate. And by the way, you're in a back,
you're in a basket. It's like, we can't create a
carbon fiber like thing to stand in. We've got a basket,
like someone wove that.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
It's a basket, a balloon and a giant flame over
your head. Now you should be fine, Hey, look at that,
look at this. It should be fine. And then next
thing you know, you're caught up in a you know,
in an electrical wire, and everything goes Hey.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What what what are we doing. It's just I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
I think everyone knows the guy who's literally gotten a
hot air balloon next, Like, I know what, I've got
a buddy.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Do you really?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, you don't have one? No, not, you don't get
out much. I bet Dean's probably know someone.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, we did. I've actually been in a hot air balloon.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Hey Dan, where are you at this weekend? Where are
you guys traveling?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
We've got we've got a home game for me, which
is nice Commanders and Chargers. No, that'll be you know,
Commanders obviously hopefully Jade's back. Chargers coming off their first loss,
so we'll see. It'll be a good played, a big,
good game.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Awesome, man, I'm going for Dean Blandino. All right, So listen,
we ran, uh we weren't through it all there rules.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
By the way, indeed, LeVar SAIDs his you know, said.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Us hello's and all his pleasure today.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Well, you know, Penn State, Penn State played Saturday night
and it's Tuesday. So he's just now flying back or
maybe he's taking a wagon. We're not really sure how
he is getting front to l a from uh from Happy.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Valley now.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Crying his way all the way back.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
The three the three Day post Game Show apparently, so uh, thanks, team,
we appreciate it.
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Speaker 5 (19:40):
I mean I feel like genetically engineered, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What, Petra's your thoughts on Levar's breakdown of Otani being
not human.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
I understand he seems very mechanical right in many ways, but.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Like a cyborg. Like yeah, if you like, like you
remember V, like when they like get to hit them?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Why not only do I remember V.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
There's one of our neighbors here where we live who
I've known her and her brother almost since I was
in elementary school.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I knew the girl and V the little girl.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I had a crush on Diana about the way the
thing we all did.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
The little girl in V's name is Jenny Beck, and
she she is a star man.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
She grew up around here and she's still her kids
are in college now and she's married a long time.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Our neighbors growing up were the costume designers for that show.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I'm sure they came across each other.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
They were dope. Those were dope costumes, by the way.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
And Palace Vernes holding hands over Los Angeles. Uh, but yeah,
sho Hal Tawani seems pretty otherworldly. A lot of Japanese
athletes because of the the repetition, the discipline of how
they go about it baseball, I guess each row would
come to mind just so he's little.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Eachy row is little, like Showy looks the part.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
He not only looks like he's like a cyborg, he
just looks different, like a terminator.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
When I started, I mean, I've covered the Dodgers baseball
for a long time, and when I started covering the Dodgers,
I was kind of like, Wow, these guys are pretty
normal looking guys as far as pro athletes go. You know,
like you stand next to Trey Turner and you can
understand why some white dads go crazy trying to turn
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their son into a major league baseball player, because you
don't actually have to pass the eyeball test. If you
walk in the room and tell somebody you're a major
league baseball player, you could be David Eckstein or somebody
like that and really not look Moogie Betts like Mookie.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Betts is not.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
He's a great athlete, but he's not an intimidating looking
figure when you stand next to him. That's a great example.
Freddie Freeman showed up and I was like, damn that
really big. You know, that's a big ass guy. And
then Shoe Heyo TODDI showed up, wo like whoa, you know,
so you don't even want to look at him. Yeah,
what do they use the cool word they use in
(22:21):
football now as creatures, Like, wow.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
There's some real like that. I like that a lot.
You need to use that, Petro, you're get in that
a gap. There's some real creatures. Oh yeah, I love Yeah,
he's there's no doubt that he's a He's a creature.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
And and you know, we use so much hyperbole. Somebody
I remember before the Ohio State versus I don't know
if it's true or not, but everybody was called the
Ohio the Ohio State receiver, the greatest college football player
any of us have ever seen. And he's a good
receivert card No. The one they have now, Smith, Jeremiah Smith. Yeah,
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and it's like, Okay, I don't know if he's the
greatest college football player I've ever seen. He's he's a
dominant receiver. We use so much hyperbole to sell the
moment because that's our job. But Shoeo Tani, there's no
hyperbole there. Yeah, he lives up to everything. In fact,
it's almost to the point where he's so ridiculous. It's
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like he's like a playing a video game and everybody
else is a real person. He's so ridiculous that you
almost take for granted what he does, which is totally
unprecedented and totally out of pocket for a normal athlete.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
So there you go.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
You got to give the guy credit. He hit two
jacks last night. The Dodger bullpen is still a mess,
but it'll be an adventure again tonight against the Reds,
who compare themselves to cocker roaches. I bury those cockerroaches.
The Reds are like a very scrappy team with you know,
nobody with a whole bunch of home runs or nobody
(24:03):
with a great batting average. But they've put it together
and made the playoffs in the last day of the season,
so good for them.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
We'll see how it shakes out tonight. I'll be there.
Speaker 10 (24:13):
Oh nice, nice, Yeah, we have to go when it
comes to this stuff. Oh well, yeah, it was still
be fun, though I don't have very much fun.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
All right.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Well, I'm sorry, I hope you.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Actually I just sit there and try to like suppress
a panic contact.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Are you guys on the field or in the suite?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
We go wherever we want?
Speaker 8 (24:32):
Yeah, oh yeah, so we can go down to the field,
we can stay up on the suite. One of us
can go down the field, one of us can stay
up on the suite. There's a bartender whenever we show up.
Right when we crack the mic, a VIP bartender comes
from downstairs.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
And brings drinks and what's your drink?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
A choice?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
They usually bring me a mich alata.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
But I'm not super comfortable having a beer and then
going down there, so sometimes I like to stay up.
And if you're gonna come and be interviewed by me
a drunken radio host, uh, you can do it in
the suite.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Amongst the hot dogs and turkey raps? Right?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Is there any worse smell though than those hot dogs?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
After a while they were able to suppress it in
the suite. Somehow, I don't.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
I don't find that feeling about the Dodger Stadium dogs, Brady.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Okay, maybe they're different there here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
But yeah, in fact, I wasn't specifically talking about the
La Ones. I'm just saying like something about a ballpark
hots on when like the water they're they're like they're
basting in there too long, something about the smell. I understand,
Sorry for me to think about it. Yeah, I don't
want to think about it. In fact, I'm gonna transition
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very quickly now into you're all. You're all, I'm jerking
the wheel into a ditch, which is what Lincoln Riley
and you felt like they did a little bit this past.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Week in Illinois. Just take me through.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I was on stage or at the desk with a
fellow USC alum who got very sensitive about it.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
I saw that somebody. I didn't see it, but somebody
texted me that looks like Leonard's pissed at Brady and
he was sensitive. Oh yeah, I mean, by the way,
he's a true believer about what you know, the guys
you always said was like.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Going back to the Rose Bowl, right.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
My whole thing to him was like can they find
physicality not to match what Illinois was bringing?
Speaker 7 (26:33):
No?
Speaker 8 (26:35):
No, And look, I picked USC to win that game
simply because I didn't think that Illinois would be able
to recover from the sexual degradation that they suffered in Bloomington.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
That was a terrible loss. And when you I mean
that's you. You gave up. When you give up sixty point,
that's what it was.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
It was more than a beating me, right, they were
they had the ball gag in, but uh, Illinois was
able to recover themselves quite well. And to me, it's
so indicative of what Lincoln Riley's problem is. And it's
very interesting because it begs the question. And I know
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there's a lot of guys that call their own plays
as head coaches, but at a certain point you find
these examples where it really it hurts the team.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
For example, first of all.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
USC was lucky to be in a position to win
that game with the undisciplined play and the lack of
physicality that you pointed out and upset Matt Liner with.
Second of all, they I mean, Illinois fumbled twice in
the goal line. One of them should not because it
in fourteen point difference, right, and one of them should
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not have been a fumble. So USC was going to
grind out a victory in a game that they didn't
really have business winning because Illinois fumbled twice. Going into
the end zone, USC has two minutes left, They're driving.
Their defense hasn't stopped Illinois at all. They forced one
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punt in the game, and Lincoln Riley throws for the
end zone with two minutes left like it doesn't matter,
Like it's a video game and they're beating Illinois in
the secondary. I'm pretty sure and Brady would know better
he being there. But I think Illinois was really beat up,
like four out of five guys out in the secondary
last week this week. And Lemon, the great receiver the US,
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he has maybe a blitani cough guy, that's how good
he is. I know the guy, Jeremiah Smith is the
greatest college football player any of us have ever seen
at Ohio State. But I like this receiver at US.
He's he's having a great year so far. But they
throw it to the guy. They take no time off
the clock. Illinois doesn't need to score a touchdown to
win the game. All they had to do was get
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a couple first downs and kick a field goal, and
they had plenty of time. They didn't have to call
any timeouts. When USC had the ball near the goal line.
Lincoln Riley needed to run the ball, eat some clock,
force them to call some timeouts, and then score a touchdown.
Manage the game for your whole team. You were not
just the offensive coordinator genius play caller. You were also
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the head coach. All three phases come under your jurisdiction
and the fact that he's not able to see that
in the moment on the road in a Big ten
game is one of the things that's wrong with USC.
But the ultimate thing you said, Brady, they get down
in the trenches in a game against a Big ten team,
and Michigan State is a very improved team, but they
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just were on the road and they didn't have the
defense to stop USC, and they were clicking at USC
almost let him.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Back in that game.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
It's much the same that we're used to with USC,
and it's frustrating that every September everybody acts like it's
going to be different, and you know, they play illin uh,
they play freaking Missouri State and Georgia Southern and everybody
wants to hand Jade and Maiava the heisman.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Get read right.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Well, the other thing I was I was trying to
point out and again, like you know, I think Matt's
frustration was earl in the morning, right, Well, no, no,
it's he was like, well, you guys never beat us.
I'm like, dude, no, it has nothing to do with that,
Like that's twenty years ago. I'm living in the here
and now, and why Southern Cow which should be better
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than they are why they've struggled to transition, I think,
and I think one of the transitions that people overlook
within the Big Ten is you might not look at
Michigan State as a powerhouse.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You know, obviously Jonathan Smith has got them in a
better position than they were. There's still a long way
to go. But to me, it's the physicality of playing
Michigan State, then at Illinois, then eventually Michigan then eventually
you know, they've got Notre.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Dame on the schedule.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
You know, one more time, we'll see what happens to
happen in your ass, It's just it's the gauntlet of
going through week after week after week teams that are
built to kind of battle it out in the trenches.
And that's where you look at the improvements and you
just say, Okay, obviously Southern col has improved to a degree,
but like, do they have the ability and do they
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have the culture build up to mentally and physically go
through that gauntlet and realize.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
That answer would be no, I mean I would My
answer would be they don't have the discipline as a program.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
They don't play the.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Complimentary football, which is a sexy term to use now,
but they just don't do it well enough to be consistent.
You know, they lost to Maryland and Minnesota last year
and that's kind of which.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
By the way, those two programs aren't that bad, you
know what I'm saying, Like Minnesota is tough defensively, the
Milak Washing's awesome.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
At Maryland, like that's a sneaky good team.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
The point is they lost those games because it was
within the gauntlet of the Big Ten. Right they are
on the road, they're back at home. The USC teams
that Matt Lioner played on I think would be great
in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Of great in any era of football.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
But like you said, that was twenty twenty plus years ago.
That's not what's happening now. They don't have a coach
that's dedicated to competition and practice. They don't have a defense,
they don't have a defensive coach. They have an offensive
play caller as the head coach. And that was never
more evident than the Illinois game. USC is just the
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same as they used to be. It's interesting that you
brought up Michigan State because in the meeting I had
with Jonathan Smith to start the year, he said something
pretty interesting. He said, Look, we're better, we've improved, but
we weren't good last Like we have a long way,
like we've improved from last year, and last year we
were far behind that USC and Lincoln Riley. They don't
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have that kind of leverage. They don't have he doesn't
have that kind of rope, I don't think. But then
it's a ninety million dollars buyout. I just I resent
everybody running around telling me how good us he is,
and then they still lose a game in September and
it's like, okay, can we be done now?
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Is there one person in particular in the media I'd
like to call out because there's there's a name that
comes to mind.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I'm not going to say it, but I think.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
With Yogi Roth, No, Yogi, Well, he's one. He's all
the way up there.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Ass twenty four to seven, he laminated like playing cards
for Pete Carroll and he's like, by the way I
call football plays In two thousand and six, there I did.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Give Coward a hard time because you know, he was,
you know, there for the show and he walks as
made for it too. It's like, well he is wearing
Southern col shoes and I said, I'll call him. You're
back in Chicago, like you might want to start embracing
the Midwest again.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Get he's like a million shoes.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah, He's like no, No, He's like, they'll be fine
to I said, yeah, I think so too. But I
think there's there's a there's a way in which I
think Illinois wins this game.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
He wasn't having it.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
Yeah, well he had to have it when the game
ended because USC didn't lose. Yeah, they're just the whole
USC front runner Olympics that happens every September and trying
to make fetch happen with Lincoln Riley when clearly you
know he's the team has depreciated every year since he's
been there. Is it's it's it's it's it's the rights
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of Autumn.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Like you know, What's the part I don't understand about
it is when was the last time they were legitimately
not force fed, but legitimately a national title contender, like
twenty years?
Speaker 8 (34:43):
So it's at least it's not so what I mean,
Tim Harbaugh, you could say that Jim Harbaugh ran USC,
ran Pete Carroll out of the Pac ten with running
power over and over again in a game I called
in two thousand and nine. That was the what's your deal?
And then the other one was like what's your between
Pete Carroll. That's when their rivalry really kind of got
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heated up. Yeah, it's been at least that. I mean
even John David Booty, Mark Sanchez. I mean, those were
national title contending teams and they would win Rose Bowls
and maybe not win at all, but they would have
wildly successful years A long time ago. Yeah, it's been,
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you know, fifteen, it's been since the Pete Carroll era.
You know, during one of the sanctioned years, Lane Kiffin
won a bunch of games, and there's been a few
instances here and there. Obviously, they couldn't beat Utah when
they had Kayleb Williams that first year with the Heisman year,
So I mean they lost in the They if they
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had won the Pac twelve championship in the very first
year that Lincoln Riley was there, they would have made
the College Football Playoff, but they didn't even come close
to winning that game. So the answer is, yeah, it's
been a long time, but it's a West Coast blue
blood that destroyed the Pac twelve by leading by going
to the Big ten. We all understand why so, And
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there's a lot of people like Matt Leinerd and Colin
Cowerd that want to make it happen every year, but
it's just not happening.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Petros, do you have a I was listening to you
and Matt on the blowtorch Am five seventy yesterday and
you had some just great updates on the falcons that
were stolen from SOFI.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
The hawks.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, so are they hawks or falcons hawks?
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Okay, it's a falconer you would call somebody that's a
keeper of birds, like a falconer can be like somebody
that has owls.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Because there was a misinformation given out on another station
eleven fifty locally that you dismissed there was dead bodies, like,
what can you tell us about that situation?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Okay, a black male and all blind.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Though what Levarn just just started off? All times?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Well it's inglewood, you know, damn. So here's where we
hope he used to be.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Fortunately, Petros, we were hoping you're going to describe everything
around the scenario without giving this specific detail so we
could guess that's.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
What we were hoping.
Speaker 10 (37:12):
Well, I didn't think it was that kind of shells.
I mean it's that it was a shame gill a
Saturday Live skit.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
If you didn't, Yeah, god damn talk about spoiler alert.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
So a black mail in all black, a black jacket
with a white stripe down the arm. Maybe it was
Lewis Hamilton. Uh stole stole a cart, you know, like
the cart Marshawn Lynch stole. I called that game by
the way, Uh, Marshawn Lynch and the cart overtime victory
over Washington.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
So the guy stole a cart because somebody left the
key in the cart. Uh, and he just drove off
with the cart at Sofi. Unfortunately, the cart in the
back had two Harris's hot has. People use hawks, at
least in this area hit the birds, Yeah, to take
other birds out, and they use them around the station
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for like other studios.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah. So hawks come and clear the area and kick ass.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
So this guy stole two hawks.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Maybe he didn't know he stole the hawks. They found
the cart, and they found the body of two quail. Uh,
the bodies of too quail that were killed with a
sharp object. The quail some stations in town mistook for
the hawks. Hawks that were right.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
The quail were also in the cages.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
Which life not more important hawks? I mean he shouldn't
all bird lives matter?
Speaker 8 (38:45):
Well yeah, but now you're saying like I had my
snake and the two rats. I was gonna feed my
snake and I can't find my snake, but I found
the two.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Rats dead though, that's another blm.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Birds lives.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Yes, some people don't even feel like birds are real,
like they're all spies. But anyway, uh, the the search
continues for the hawks.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Very job, mister obvious. Another be all ill matters.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
That's like what.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Keep the hashtag going? So then what's the Have they
found them?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I don't believe.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
So they need and they have to be found by
Thursday because if they don't eat or drink by Thursday,
of course you know they're birds.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Could they fly somewhere and get some food? I don't know,
but the search.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Continues somewhere and get some food? You know, I don't
know the the stolen hawks if.
Speaker 9 (39:42):
They're flying free right now in the in the wild,
how would you know which which who they are?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Don't have.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
And you're like you looked in the back, like damn
you know, there's two big ass birds, you know, probably
just let them go, I would imagine, or try to
sell them.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Is there surveillance of this?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Who's gonna buy a hawk and anglewood?
Speaker 9 (40:02):
I mean, hey, bro, black market is crazy man? Literally,
I mean did it? That's what it's been labeled? And
we I mean, why not finish the way we started?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Good?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
So I'm just trying to figure out the quail that
died with via the sharp object?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Do they what do we talk to quail?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
So?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Did the guy pull a shive?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
What do we I don't know.
Speaker 8 (40:30):
That's the details of what I have so far. I'm
looking to see if there's any update and no, it's
about eleven hours old.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
And then everybody's like, you know what about Hawktua they
find her, it's.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
All right, oh gosh, you got to give him that.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Hawk that night.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
It's the two that gets me every time, is like
the hawk is one thing, but she really did just
kind of disappear.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
A crypto thing. She she almost went to jail for
quite some time. She had a crypto fraud thing.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Why didn't she go to jail for that?
Speaker 4 (41:13):
By the way, I don't know, I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Because of the hot hot to everyone, and they're like,
I will, we'll, We'll let you go this time.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Pet isn't there a hawk man? I was like, yeah,
there's a hot girl and there's a hot.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
To a girl, Petris. Do you respect her or Costco?
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Ho more the Hoe? Yeah? I like the Costco.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
You liked the way she just had a big breast reduction, though, Really,
isn't that a slap in the face to god?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
She might have had fake ones I put those moreheads.
I mean still, I mean, in all seriousness, I think
that uh her bro the other way around.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
No one's like, yeah, I got to take some off here.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
They were enhanced and now she's probably over it.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Why why unenhanced them?
Speaker 4 (42:04):
I don't know. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Now can she still be the what the costco?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
What the costco?
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Can she still be the costco?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Come? You guys, don't pull any costco ho for me?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Do you do it better?
Speaker 8 (42:19):
I love the cost Nobody does it better than the
costco HO. I mean, but she's got less to dip
now in the aisles.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Uh, Petro's always good job really broke that down for us.
Everything from the costco hoes, breast reduction to USC football
lack of complimentary black falconer.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
There. He Is said after the game, Brady, did you
go like, hey, what happened there? Buddy?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
What?
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (42:50):
We actually had to do like a really quick like
it was like a minute thirty pill. Everyone was so quick,
So I don't know that anyone said anything. It was like,
all right, your fifteen seconds. We're like goud Win of
my Illinois Luke Altmeyer.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
We're off air. Like it was like a really really
click deal.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Yeah, how'd that go for you?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
There? Matt?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
There is Petros Papadegus the cost of the Petros Money Show.
You can hear on nil seventy LA Sports and Fox
College Football Analyst Thanks p. Get him on Exit the
Old p.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
I'm a winner. Listen up. Winning cures all illnesses. It
really does. I'm going to win. It's Quinn's win.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Yeah, all right, we have to own up. We have
to recap last week.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
It was a rough week, rough Week one, five and
one picked a lot of the big boy games. Bama
Georgia was conflict. Went with Georgia, Bama got took care
of business. LSU getting a point and a half at
Old Miss just kind of needed to see it from
Old Miss. Obviously, they proved me wrong with that one too.
Florida State at Uva. What a win for Uva. They
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had the juice the entire time that game. That was
I don't want to say shocking, but definitely surprising. Chandler
Morris played his tail off happy for the Cavaliers. Wahu
wah to see them perform that way, but it definitely
didn't kill one of those bets.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Washington versus Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
I really thought first road Big Ten game for the
Buckeyes might be some troubles, but that defense is legit.
I mean, Don Williams Junior is a really good player.
Jonah Coleman's one of the best running backs in the
Big Ten. Denzel Boston, I mean, they've got players, now
tell them six points, it's ridiculous. And then USC Illinois
I'll be the first to tell you that secondary Farrell
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Annoy I think there were missing four or five starters.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
And if there's one thing.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
That USC going into that game does extremely well storing
the football round. They still did it, but Illinois's offense
stepped up a completely different team from what we saw
the week prior fors Indiana. So a number of losses
tough to go buy TCU Arizona State. They pushed and
then obviously the only winner. I took the three and
a half points in Oregon, who obviously won out.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
Right, well not on it. Yeah, I had to recap it.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
But this week's games another week with a lot of
big lines here, LeVar, I know your sensitive about it.
There's nothing I can do, all right. They can't win
a white I don't tell you, all right, maybe the
Beetlehouse State, I know, trust me, I knew this was
going to come up. I knew it would be a
soft spot for you.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Yeah, nothing we can do about it, though, all right,
do your wins, all right?
Speaker 6 (45:49):
This week we've got dabot what ten and sixteen on
the season, so below the five hundred, not not that
last week kind of tarpoon things. But we're gonna get
back on track this week, and it starts off with
a battle the acc Dabo or Dabbo, depending on how
some people call them.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
Pointnoy for some reason calls them Dabo's weird.
Speaker 6 (46:10):
Clemson's taken on UNC, and they're laying what thirteen and
a half last time I checked for fourteen fourteen?
Speaker 5 (46:18):
Around fourteen now there on DraftKings.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
At some point, Clemson's gotta figure this out, right, I
mean at some point, and I would imagine there will
probably more Clemson fans in Chapel Hill than North Carolina.
I mean, that's that's my bet on this. But Clemson's
the way more talented team. It's a proven track record.
This year has been rough, but I think this could
be a get back on track game for them. I'm
gonna lay the fourteen points and Clemson on the road here.
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Next up one that should make LeVar Arrton happy. Penn
State traveling out to LA to take on the Bruins.
The Brugans. I've already fired their head coach. They're struggling offensively.
This is a get right game for James Franklin. Historically
he's had no issue whatsoever covering these big spreads.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
And the line is twenty four and a half lay them.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Penn State will pound UCLA, not be onble to score,
and then Penn State's offense will run all over.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
The UCLA defense. So love laying the big number there
with the Nidney Lions.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
Next up, a sneaky, really good battle, and you wonder
if Washington gets beat twice by Ohio State or how
they come out of that game.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Washington's going to.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
A head all the way across the country to Maryland
and they're getting six and a half points. I thought
the UDUB offense got a little bit exposed last week.
First Ale State defense, although there's just kind of that good.
But I've been hyping up Malak Washington all year long,
the true freshman quarterback. He could sling it and they've
got playmakers on the outside. So I like Maryland at home.
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Tough game, big game, but a West Coast team that
you know, again, different time zones. I'll take the six
and a half in Maryland. Next up, another great matchup.
This Houston team has I would say exceeded expectations, probably
for most in the Big Twelve, but a big number here.
They're hosting Texas Tech, who I believe to be the
best team in the Big twelve, but in eleven and
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a half points, that's the number.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
It's a little bit too much for me. I think
this Houston team can score with others. Barren more than
the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (48:14):
For Texas Tech. Remember he was knocked out the last
game they played versus Utah. Will Hammond came in played
phenomenal more will be back for this one. So go
in and take the eleven and a half points with
Houston and our final matchup TCU at home taken on Colorado.
It's a big number. It's thirteen and a half points. Look,
I think this is Colorado team has struggled. They've they've
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kind of had a you know, rotating Charoit quarterback there
for them and on the road versus a team that
I think TCU is flying under the radar as one
of the best teams in the Big twelve. So I'm
laying the thirteen and a half points. See who's lost
two of their last three. The struggling to put up points,
especially when they face power for competition. The only average
about twenty points of games. So Josh River has been
phenomenal this year for TCU. I like the Horned Frogs
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the teen and a half here That's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Talking about right there. You know what, what a persevere
with buddy, Maybe this will be a better week. Rough week,
crazy week in college football. Get up off the stool,
ready for another round?
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Well, I mean again, three and one really could have
been four hour, but we got cut out.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Whens, Whens. It's like if a tree fall.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
It's like it never existed.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
A tree falls in the forest, Is anybody here, you know,
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar airings rating Win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And now we say hello to the man himself. He's
Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and college football rules analysts.
You can get him on x at Dean Blandino. Dean,
I gotta be honest with you. The mood changes when
that song comes on and we know that you're about
ready to come on the air with us something about it.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I got to be honest with you, I am. I mean,
I didn't expect the fencing promo right before I came in.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I mean, that's yeah.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I'm probably probably.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
For giving me one hundred guesses on what was fencing
was like one on one and I'm into it.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Have you done fencing before?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
My oldest son did when we were living in New
York did fencing for like one, like maybe like six
weeks and it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
It was awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Little kids just stabbing each It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I mean, one way to do it. By the way,
speaking of violence, do you think Robert sala is gonna
get fined for uh maybe allegedly uh you know, giving
a death threat?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
To Lee.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, Robert Robert sala Leam Cohen Cohen, Like that wasn't
on my Bengo card. But I mean there was a
lot of like just people chose violence the the you know,
Ben Johnson, I mean there was a lot this weekend.
It was it was is.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
It me or are these coaches hyped up on something?
They all looked like they're like teetering on I don't know,
some vitamin T or some I.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Don't know, we're not I thought the smelling soul salts
were supposed to pease banned, but you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
It feels like they're for individual consumption, right.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
I believe that's what the NFL came on set is
the teams just can't provide them, but the players.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Can use them.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Very similar to Aaron Rodgers who cracked on open right
before he took the touchdown pass, DK.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Metcalf exactly exactly, Dean, where are.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
We at on the kickoff?
Speaker 6 (02:15):
I believe based on the stats that I'm receiving from
Mike Pereira, it's made a dramatic impact on the play
itself actually being a play that matters now in football.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think this is like we've talked
about they you know, the play is back or we're pushing,
you know, seventy five, seventy six, seventy seven percent of
kicks returned, we're getting long returns, we're getting you know,
low injury ray. You know, I know, Mike, Mike, Mike
p sends the email out and he's always like he's
like com fascinated by this and like, are you, Mike,
(02:49):
is it that fascinating? I mean, they just they changed it.
It's we're going to get a lot of kick returns.
But I think the league is really happy with where
where they're at. You know, they'll just continue to It'd
be interesting to see what the you know, what the
scoring numbers look like at the end of this year
with the touchback being into thirty five and where the
drive start ends up. But I think this is this
is it's good for the play and because look as
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recently as three years ago, they were talking about taking
this play out altogether. So it's been a dramatic, dramatic turnaround.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So
we brought this up earlier, and I wanted to ask
you about it because I just don't get it. So
right before halftime of the Illinois USC game on Saturday,
it looked like and there was a fumble called on
the field. Illinois fumbled the football near the goal line.
They showed replay and it looked like there was a
(03:40):
clear view that he was down, yet they still kept
with the call. And it was one of those really
egregious moments to where you can't figure out, what are
you seeing that we're not seeing? Did you happen to
get a glance at the play and why was that
call kept a fumble when it looked like it was
(04:01):
very obvious that he was down and on the ground.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, you know, I kind of I thought he was
down as well. It just looks like and what goes
into those decisions, And it's a very high standard to overturn.
Right the language it used to be used to say
in disputable and then now it's clear and obvious, and
they really want it to jump out so it's consistent.
So it's not it's not just us looking at the
(04:27):
play and looking at it for ten minutes and piecing
eight different angles together and then everybody at home going, well,
how did you change it? They wanted to really jump out,
here's the shot, here's here's the knee on the ground,
here's the ball. I think that that's where that where
I haven't really analyzed that play too closely, but I
think that's where that decision ends up. It's like, Okay,
(04:48):
there's some somebody and there's multiple people involved in that decision.
You've got a replay official in the replay booth, you've
got a command center, Big ten has a command center
back in Caago, and the referee. And so if somebody
just plans one little seat of doubt, then they're going
to go, Okay, well we don't have enough. It's not
clear and obvious. We're gonna let the play. You know,
(05:09):
we're going to uphold it. I think that's where that
one probably landed. And there's going to be plays like
that where you see it and you go man, I said, like,
that looks like you down. But for some reason they're
just somebody had some doubt and they let it stand.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Can I ask this, though, like, how are these officials
being coached on plays like that? Because you know, in
that instance it's a turnover, it can automatically be reviewed
then correct, So that in that case, if they called
that he was down, they can't review it, so they're
almost like better off letting it play out and then
hoping that they have a camera angle that's able to give.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Them that sort of you know, conclusive evidence. Is that
Is that how it works?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, that's one of the that's one of the little
quirks with replay is that you can still review it
if they rule them down. But if the defense picks
it up and runs it back for eighty yards, if
the officials rule it down, they can't give the advance.
So your take, if you roll down, you better be
one hundred percent sure because if there is that big
return and now replay shows that it was a fumble,
(06:08):
the best they can do is give them all to
the to the you know, whichever defender recovered it at
that spot. So there is always going to be a
lean toward let it play out. I think sometimes we
see that go too far where there's like an obvious
especially on pass fumble with the quarterback right, it's an
obvious pass, and they just like kind of let it
(06:28):
play out, and then everybody's kind of wondering like what wait,
what that wasn't the pass? And then replay comes in
quickly and corrects it. So there is that that element
now with replay where it's better to let it play out.
You still want the officials to roll on what they see.
If you're sure you're in good position, you see it,
call it, don't be indecisive, don't officiate to replay. But
(06:50):
I mean that is a reality that the officials have
to have to deal with.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports,
NFL and College Football Rules analyst with us here on
Two Pros and a Cup of Joves. So, have you
seen anything either in the NFL or in college through
the first you know, four or five weeks of the
season that you look at and go, they got to
get better at that in a hurry. As far as inconsistencies,
anything that you've seen that is a problem right now
(07:19):
from an officiating standpoint.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well, I know, if we talk about college I mean everybody,
targeting is usually the number one topic. I think, you know,
I always see there's there's there tends to be a
lot of conversation about targeting early. There's usually a spike
in the numbers because right these these these kids practicing,
they're not hitting, they're not going at full speed the
way that they do during games, you know, in in
(07:43):
in fall practice and those types of things. So you
do see a little bit of an uptick. I think
everybody's kind of you get now into week five, you've
got you know, conference plays started, so I think everybody
kind of settles in. You're always going to have these
calls if you you can debate. The one thing, the
one thing I hate right now now and college football
is is the substitution. And when the offense subs and
(08:05):
the defense and you see the and they milk it
and you get you get these these big defensive linemen
that are doing the wal cap job.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
I love it. I love it. It's so good though,
it's so.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Good to get my car, you know. It's like that.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Just in that instance though, in that instance, do they
stop the play clock to allow for it then started
back up?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Did they still the play clock run?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh? The play clock goes. So when you sub the
way it works, the offense subs and you'll see the
you'll see the referee they put both arms out right,
and so that they call that that opens up the window.
Now the defense has three seconds to bring in their subs.
And if you don't sub within that three seconds, then
you're on your own. But then once that substitution process,
once that first sub steps on the field for the defense,
(08:54):
now they get a chance to complete that substitution until
they lolligag onto the field and then okay, you know, Joe,
I'm gonna I'm gonna get in my stance. You go
off the field, and some teams are really good. Now,
if that play clock goes to zero and the and
the defense was within the referee fields like they were
within that reasonable amount of time, it's gonna be It's
gonna be the delay game.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Seez all right, I mean that's fun.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
By the way, Uh, we were talking about the eighty
Mitchell play where he fumbled the ball crossing the goal line.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh my god, that's that's that's not gonna change though,
is it.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No, it's like you would you everybody's like, everybody, oh,
this rule is could you imagine when that happens and
we say, oh, by the way, Bill, Matt somebody you know,
started to celebrate. Now we're gonna give him the ball
back at the half yard line. I mean it's a touchback.
It's the end zone. Like, don't that one.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Get in the end zone that one right there like
that deserves to go the other direction and and the
other team gets the ball. But in cases to where
it's not intentional or a guy you know, is reaching
for the goal line, only, yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Totally gets it. So it can't have two separate rules.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So is that Has that ever been brought up at all,
like in an off season?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And so what's what's the pushback on why a ball
going out of the end zone goes to the other
team plus an extra twenty yards.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's it's consistent with with the other rules in terms
of when when you when when you as a team
put the ball into your opponent's end zone, whether that's
on a punt, whether that's on a kickoff, right, a
fumble into the end zone, that's a touchback. So so
it's consistent from that standpoint. The Competition Committee's feeling was
(10:38):
always the end zones different, right, that's that's it's not
like at the fifty yard line. It's it's there's a
lot of reward getting the ball into the end zone,
but there should be some risk. And look, I get it,
I get it. When the when the when the running
back is diving for the end zone and it's trying
to hit that pilon and the ball just happens to
come loose six inches from the pile and then hits it.
(11:00):
That feels really tough to make that a touchback. But
then you watch the play with the guy's celebrating and
you're like, that should be a touchback. So my thing
is it's tough to say, Okay, there's two different roles
for those two situations. I like that it's simple. I
like that it's consistent, and I just think that hey,
hold on to the football when you're near the goal line.
I think that's that's the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
It'll never make sense to me.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
I'm not sure what goes on inside a player's head
whereas that first, like let's get the touchdown first, then celebrate.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
But I digress. We had some sound from Sasagard earlier.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
He feels like if you play on a bad team,
there's just more calls against you versus some of the
better teams.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
That's essentially how we put it.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
I will say this in his defense Dean Philly, and
this has become like a thing on social media. People
are putting out eclips of their DBS getting away with murder.
So yeah, I understand there's differences in crews, et cetera.
But I mean, is there anything too this as far
as what SA is.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Saying, Yeah, I don't look, I don't think. And they've
done studies and you know, ESPN did a deal where
they went back twenty years and looked at fouls against
certain teams and all the teams, and there's just no
rhyme or reason. It's different crews. It's different to cruise
change year to year. I think I think the bad
teams tend to make more mistakes. Good teams tend to
(12:22):
make less mistakes. And I was I we had the
Eagles Bucks team and Queenyon Mitchell Man he is handsy
right like like he is, and and and a lot
like right hopefully.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You want to.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't want to. No, I'm not going to go there.
But but the thing is and some and look, there
were teams Seattle was great at that when the Legion
of Boom they were they would play aggressive, they would hold,
they would grab because they're like, you're not going to
call You might call it, you might call it once,
you might call it twice, You're not going to call
it six times in a row, and we're gonna win.
(13:07):
We're gonna win those other downs and so, and you
do see some of these these players. That's one guy,
you know, he got called a couple of times. He
could have gotten called a lot more. I don't think
it's not a team thing. It's just it's just the officials.
They're trying to do the best they can. It's different crews,
Like I said, they change. And I just think sometimes
over time though, you will see that even out when
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you look at the numbers, not just within one season.
It's it's over over a longer a longer period.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, do officials go into games, you know, saying, hey,
this team's got a reputation of this, be on the
lookout or you know it, Like, is there I don't
know if it's a game plan, but is there sure
any sort of scouting from an officiating standpoint, Hey, watch
out for this when this team is playing and you
have this game?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
They do they do so, they'll they'll scout, they'll look
at it, they'll look at tape on the two teams,
and they'll they'll try not to look at Hey, if
one particular player, they won't go too far down that
because then you you almost get get in your head, oh,
I got to be looking at the left tackle has
led the league in holds, and then I'm almost like
(14:13):
prejudicing myself to be like, oh, focusing so much on
the left tackle, I missed something else. But there are tendencies, right,
you scout your opponent, just like the officials are going
to scout the two teams. So there are tendencies there are, Hey,
they play aggressive in the secondary, they do this, and
sure y artists they you know, they how are we
going to officiate to push those types of things. So
they are scouting, they try to stay away from, you know,
(14:34):
targeting one specific player and unless it's like, hey, this
guy every play after the play, he's you know, if
if DK metcalf Is is playing Jalen Ramsey, we got
to be we got to be on top of that
at the you know, post play and then and find
those two guys because that could get out of hand.
But but yeah, they do scout, but they'll try not
(14:56):
to get so focused on one player so they don't
lose other things that are happening.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Dean Blandino with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Dean, what else is going on in your life?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Man?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
I mean I feel like we just bring you on
you talk about football. I'm more curious what else is
going on.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, I'm just you know, I'm living my best life
right now. I'm you know, just traveling around with the
Fox A crew and and hey, hanging my man Brady
and and and just getting style tips from him. Did
you see him this weekend? Did you did you see
Tom with the white shirt, white tie combo? I mean, incredible, incredible,
(15:34):
it was something.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
It was something. Hey, do you ever see Ronaldi out there?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, Tom's the best Tom is he? He is like
the nicest, kindest, always like just so supportive, you know.
And we you know, I love Tom and we we
kind of made fun of him at the UH.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I don't know if you were in the room at
the time.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It was the NFL part of the seminar, and we
we we said we made fun of Tom and said,
you know, nothing nothing to be more fired up for
a day of college football watching some you know, a
Tom Ornaldi piece on some chid that lost his family
in a hot air balloon accident and is dedicating his
season to them, just with the music. Let's Nebraska Michigan.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Let's I was actually going to take a different angle
and ask you about the Italian side, like do you
guys get screw good meals in together and all that,
But clearly you took that at a different.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Definitely, definitely I passed on the jonas said the PI.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I mean listening. Let's be honest, though, if you're getting
in a hot air balloon, I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You know, is what it is.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I like my thing. Yeah, you want to make dumb choices,
then don't don't be sad when dumb things.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I'm with you. I don't get it.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
By the way, I mean forget, forget like the fact
that you really don't have much control over how those
things operate. And by the way, you're in a back,
you're in a basket. It's like, we can't create a
carbon fiber like thing to stand in. We've got a basket,
like someone wove that.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
It's a basket, a balloon and a giant flame over
your head. Now you should be fine, Hey, look at that,
look at this. It should be fine. And then next
thing you know, you're caught up in a you know,
in an electrical wire, and everything goes Hey.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
What what what are we doing. It's just I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
I think everyone knows the guy who's literally gotten a
hot air balloon next, Like, I know what, I've got
a buddy.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Do you really?
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, you don't have one? No, not, you don't get
out much. I bet Dean's probably know someone.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, we did. I've actually been in a hot air balloon.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Hey Dan, where are you at this weekend? Where are
you guys traveling?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
We've got we've got a home game for me, which
is nice Commanders and Chargers. No, that'll be you know,
Commanders obviously hopefully Jade's back. Chargers coming off their first loss,
so we'll see. It'll be a good played, a big,
good game.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Awesome, man, I'm going for Dean Blandino. All right, So listen,
we ran, uh we weren't through it all there rules.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
By the way, indeed, LeVar SAIDs his you know, said.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
Us hello's and all his pleasure today.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Well, you know, Penn State, Penn State played Saturday night
and it's Tuesday. So he's just now flying back or
maybe he's taking a wagon. We're not really sure how
he is getting front to l a from uh from Happy.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Valley now.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Crying his way all the way back.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
The three the three Day post Game Show apparently, so uh, thanks, team,
we appreciate it.
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Speaker 5 (19:40):
I mean I feel like genetically engineered, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What, Petra's your thoughts on Levar's breakdown of Otani being
not human.
Speaker 8 (19:49):
I understand he seems very mechanical right in many ways, but.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Like a cyborg. Like yeah, if you like, like you
remember V, like when they like get to hit them?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Why not only do I remember V.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
There's one of our neighbors here where we live who
I've known her and her brother almost since I was
in elementary school.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I knew the girl and V the little girl.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I had a crush on Diana about the way the
thing we all did.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
The little girl in V's name is Jenny Beck, and
she she is a star man.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
She grew up around here and she's still her kids
are in college now and she's married a long time.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Our neighbors growing up were the costume designers for that show.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I'm sure they came across each other.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
They were dope. Those were dope costumes, by the way.
Speaker 8 (20:45):
And Palace Vernes holding hands over Los Angeles. Uh, but yeah,
sho Hal Tawani seems pretty otherworldly. A lot of Japanese
athletes because of the the repetition, the discipline of how
they go about it baseball, I guess each row would
come to mind just so he's little.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Eachy row is little, like Showy looks the part.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
He not only looks like he's like a cyborg, he
just looks different, like a terminator.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
When I started, I mean, I've covered the Dodgers baseball
for a long time, and when I started covering the Dodgers,
I was kind of like, Wow, these guys are pretty
normal looking guys as far as pro athletes go. You know,
like you stand next to Trey Turner and you can
understand why some white dads go crazy trying to turn
(21:38):
their son into a major league baseball player, because you
don't actually have to pass the eyeball test. If you
walk in the room and tell somebody you're a major
league baseball player, you could be David Eckstein or somebody
like that and really not look Moogie Betts like Mookie.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Betts is not.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
He's a great athlete, but he's not an intimidating looking
figure when you stand next to him. That's a great example.
Freddie Freeman showed up and I was like, damn that
really big. You know, that's a big ass guy. And
then Shoe Heyo TODDI showed up, wo like whoa, you know,
so you don't even want to look at him. Yeah,
what do they use the cool word they use in
(22:21):
football now as creatures, Like, wow.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
There's some real like that. I like that a lot.
You need to use that, Petro, you're get in that
a gap. There's some real creatures. Oh yeah, I love Yeah,
he's there's no doubt that he's a He's a creature.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
And and you know, we use so much hyperbole. Somebody
I remember before the Ohio State versus I don't know
if it's true or not, but everybody was called the
Ohio the Ohio State receiver, the greatest college football player
any of us have ever seen. And he's a good
receivert card No. The one they have now, Smith, Jeremiah Smith. Yeah,
(23:03):
and it's like, Okay, I don't know if he's the
greatest college football player I've ever seen. He's he's a
dominant receiver. We use so much hyperbole to sell the
moment because that's our job. But Shoeo Tani, there's no
hyperbole there. Yeah, he lives up to everything. In fact,
it's almost to the point where he's so ridiculous. It's
(23:26):
like he's like a playing a video game and everybody
else is a real person. He's so ridiculous that you
almost take for granted what he does, which is totally
unprecedented and totally out of pocket for a normal athlete.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
So there you go.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
You got to give the guy credit. He hit two
jacks last night. The Dodger bullpen is still a mess,
but it'll be an adventure again tonight against the Reds,
who compare themselves to cocker roaches. I bury those cockerroaches.
The Reds are like a very scrappy team with you know,
nobody with a whole bunch of home runs or nobody
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with a great batting average. But they've put it together
and made the playoffs in the last day of the season,
so good for them.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
We'll see how it shakes out tonight. I'll be there.
Speaker 10 (24:13):
Oh nice, nice, Yeah, we have to go when it
comes to this stuff. Oh well, yeah, it was still
be fun, though I don't have very much fun.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
All right.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Well, I'm sorry, I hope you.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Actually I just sit there and try to like suppress
a panic contact.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Are you guys on the field or in the suite?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
We go wherever we want?
Speaker 8 (24:32):
Yeah, oh yeah, so we can go down to the field,
we can stay up on the suite. One of us
can go down the field, one of us can stay
up on the suite. There's a bartender whenever we show up.
Right when we crack the mic, a VIP bartender comes
from downstairs.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
And brings drinks and what's your drink?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
A choice?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
They usually bring me a mich alata.
Speaker 8 (24:54):
But I'm not super comfortable having a beer and then
going down there, so sometimes I like to stay up.
And if you're gonna come and be interviewed by me
a drunken radio host, uh, you can do it in
the suite.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Amongst the hot dogs and turkey raps? Right?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Is there any worse smell though than those hot dogs?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
After a while they were able to suppress it in
the suite. Somehow, I don't.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
I don't find that feeling about the Dodger Stadium dogs, Brady.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Okay, maybe they're different there here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
But yeah, in fact, I wasn't specifically talking about the
La Ones. I'm just saying like something about a ballpark
hots on when like the water they're they're like they're
basting in there too long, something about the smell. I understand,
Sorry for me to think about it. Yeah, I don't
want to think about it. In fact, I'm gonna transition
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very quickly now into you're all. You're all, I'm jerking
the wheel into a ditch, which is what Lincoln Riley
and you felt like they did a little bit this past.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Week in Illinois. Just take me through.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I was on stage or at the desk with a
fellow USC alum who got very sensitive about it.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
I saw that somebody. I didn't see it, but somebody
texted me that looks like Leonard's pissed at Brady and
he was sensitive. Oh yeah, I mean, by the way,
he's a true believer about what you know, the guys
you always said was like.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Going back to the Rose Bowl, right.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
My whole thing to him was like can they find
physicality not to match what Illinois was bringing?
Speaker 7 (26:33):
No?
Speaker 8 (26:35):
No, And look, I picked USC to win that game
simply because I didn't think that Illinois would be able
to recover from the sexual degradation that they suffered in Bloomington.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
That was a terrible loss. And when you I mean
that's you. You gave up. When you give up sixty point,
that's what it was.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
It was more than a beating me, right, they were
they had the ball gag in, but uh, Illinois was
able to recover themselves quite well. And to me, it's
so indicative of what Lincoln Riley's problem is. And it's
very interesting because it begs the question. And I know
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there's a lot of guys that call their own plays
as head coaches, but at a certain point you find
these examples where it really it hurts the team.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
For example, first of all.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
USC was lucky to be in a position to win
that game with the undisciplined play and the lack of
physicality that you pointed out and upset Matt Liner with.
Second of all, they I mean, Illinois fumbled twice in
the goal line. One of them should not because it
in fourteen point difference, right, and one of them should
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not have been a fumble. So USC was going to
grind out a victory in a game that they didn't
really have business winning because Illinois fumbled twice. Going into
the end zone, USC has two minutes left, They're driving.
Their defense hasn't stopped Illinois at all. They forced one
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punt in the game, and Lincoln Riley throws for the
end zone with two minutes left like it doesn't matter,
Like it's a video game and they're beating Illinois in
the secondary. I'm pretty sure and Brady would know better
he being there. But I think Illinois was really beat up,
like four out of five guys out in the secondary
last week this week. And Lemon, the great receiver the US,
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he has maybe a blitani cough guy, that's how good
he is. I know the guy, Jeremiah Smith is the
greatest college football player any of us have ever seen
at Ohio State. But I like this receiver at US.
He's he's having a great year so far. But they
throw it to the guy. They take no time off
the clock. Illinois doesn't need to score a touchdown to
win the game. All they had to do was get
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a couple first downs and kick a field goal, and
they had plenty of time. They didn't have to call
any timeouts. When USC had the ball near the goal line.
Lincoln Riley needed to run the ball, eat some clock,
force them to call some timeouts, and then score a touchdown.
Manage the game for your whole team. You were not
just the offensive coordinator genius play caller. You were also
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the head coach. All three phases come under your jurisdiction
and the fact that he's not able to see that
in the moment on the road in a Big ten
game is one of the things that's wrong with USC.
But the ultimate thing you said, Brady, they get down
in the trenches in a game against a Big ten team,
and Michigan State is a very improved team, but they
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just were on the road and they didn't have the
defense to stop USC, and they were clicking at USC
almost let him.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Back in that game.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
It's much the same that we're used to with USC,
and it's frustrating that every September everybody acts like it's
going to be different, and you know, they play illin uh,
they play freaking Missouri State and Georgia Southern and everybody
wants to hand Jade and Maiava the heisman.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Get read right.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Well, the other thing I was I was trying to
point out and again, like you know, I think Matt's
frustration was earl in the morning, right, Well, no, no,
it's he was like, well, you guys never beat us.
I'm like, dude, no, it has nothing to do with that,
Like that's twenty years ago. I'm living in the here
and now, and why Southern Cow which should be better
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than they are why they've struggled to transition, I think,
and I think one of the transitions that people overlook
within the Big Ten is you might not look at
Michigan State as a powerhouse.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
You know, obviously Jonathan Smith has got them in a
better position than they were. There's still a long way
to go. But to me, it's the physicality of playing
Michigan State, then at Illinois, then eventually Michigan then eventually
you know, they've got Notre.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Dame on the schedule.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
You know, one more time, we'll see what happens to
happen in your ass, It's just it's the gauntlet of
going through week after week after week teams that are
built to kind of battle it out in the trenches.
And that's where you look at the improvements and you
just say, Okay, obviously Southern col has improved to a degree,
but like, do they have the ability and do they
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have the culture build up to mentally and physically go
through that gauntlet and realize.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
That answer would be no, I mean I would My
answer would be they don't have the discipline as a program.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
They don't play the.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Complimentary football, which is a sexy term to use now,
but they just don't do it well enough to be consistent.
You know, they lost to Maryland and Minnesota last year
and that's kind of which.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
By the way, those two programs aren't that bad, you
know what I'm saying, Like Minnesota is tough defensively, the
Milak Washing's awesome.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
At Maryland, like that's a sneaky good team.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
The point is they lost those games because it was
within the gauntlet of the Big Ten. Right they are
on the road, they're back at home. The USC teams
that Matt Lioner played on I think would be great
in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Of great in any era of football.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
But like you said, that was twenty twenty plus years ago.
That's not what's happening now. They don't have a coach
that's dedicated to competition and practice. They don't have a defense,
they don't have a defensive coach. They have an offensive
play caller as the head coach. And that was never
more evident than the Illinois game. USC is just the
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same as they used to be. It's interesting that you
brought up Michigan State because in the meeting I had
with Jonathan Smith to start the year, he said something
pretty interesting. He said, Look, we're better, we've improved, but
we weren't good last Like we have a long way,
like we've improved from last year, and last year we
were far behind that USC and Lincoln Riley. They don't
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have that kind of leverage. They don't have he doesn't
have that kind of rope, I don't think. But then
it's a ninety million dollars buyout. I just I resent
everybody running around telling me how good us he is,
and then they still lose a game in September and
it's like, okay, can we be done now?
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Is there one person in particular in the media I'd
like to call out because there's there's a name that
comes to mind.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
I'm not going to say it, but I think.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
With Yogi Roth, No, Yogi, Well, he's one. He's all
the way up there.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Ass twenty four to seven, he laminated like playing cards
for Pete Carroll and he's like, by the way I
call football plays In two thousand and six, there I did.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Give Coward a hard time because you know, he was,
you know, there for the show and he walks as
made for it too. It's like, well he is wearing
Southern col shoes and I said, I'll call him. You're
back in Chicago, like you might want to start embracing
the Midwest again.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Get he's like a million shoes.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
Yeah, He's like no, No, He's like, they'll be fine
to I said, yeah, I think so too. But I
think there's there's a there's a way in which I
think Illinois wins this game.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
He wasn't having it.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
Yeah, well he had to have it when the game
ended because USC didn't lose. Yeah, they're just the whole
USC front runner Olympics that happens every September and trying
to make fetch happen with Lincoln Riley when clearly you
know he's the team has depreciated every year since he's
been there. Is it's it's it's it's it's the rights
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of Autumn.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Like you know, What's the part I don't understand about
it is when was the last time they were legitimately
not force fed, but legitimately a national title contender, like
twenty years?
Speaker 8 (34:43):
So it's at least it's not so what I mean,
Tim Harbaugh, you could say that Jim Harbaugh ran USC,
ran Pete Carroll out of the Pac ten with running
power over and over again in a game I called
in two thousand and nine. That was the what's your deal?
And then the other one was like what's your between
Pete Carroll. That's when their rivalry really kind of got
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heated up. Yeah, it's been at least that. I mean
even John David Booty, Mark Sanchez. I mean, those were
national title contending teams and they would win Rose Bowls
and maybe not win at all, but they would have
wildly successful years A long time ago. Yeah, it's been,
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you know, fifteen, it's been since the Pete Carroll era.
You know, during one of the sanctioned years, Lane Kiffin
won a bunch of games, and there's been a few
instances here and there. Obviously, they couldn't beat Utah when
they had Kayleb Williams that first year with the Heisman year,
So I mean they lost in the They if they
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had won the Pac twelve championship in the very first
year that Lincoln Riley was there, they would have made
the College Football Playoff, but they didn't even come close
to winning that game. So the answer is, yeah, it's
been a long time, but it's a West Coast blue
blood that destroyed the Pac twelve by leading by going
to the Big ten. We all understand why so, And
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there's a lot of people like Matt Leinerd and Colin
Cowerd that want to make it happen every year, but
it's just not happening.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Petros, do you have a I was listening to you
and Matt on the blowtorch Am five seventy yesterday and
you had some just great updates on the falcons that
were stolen from SOFI.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
The hawks.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, so are they hawks or falcons hawks?
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Okay, it's a falconer you would call somebody that's a
keeper of birds, like a falconer can be like somebody
that has owls.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Because there was a misinformation given out on another station
eleven fifty locally that you dismissed there was dead bodies, like,
what can you tell us about that situation?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Okay, a black male and all blind.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Though what Levarn just just started off? All times?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Well it's inglewood, you know, damn. So here's where we
hope he used to be.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Fortunately, Petros, we were hoping you're going to describe everything
around the scenario without giving this specific detail so we
could guess that's.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
What we were hoping.
Speaker 10 (37:12):
Well, I didn't think it was that kind of shells.
I mean it's that it was a shame gill a
Saturday Live skit.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
If you didn't, Yeah, god damn talk about spoiler alert.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
So a black mail in all black, a black jacket
with a white stripe down the arm. Maybe it was
Lewis Hamilton. Uh stole stole a cart, you know, like
the cart Marshawn Lynch stole. I called that game by
the way, Uh, Marshawn Lynch and the cart overtime victory
over Washington.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
So the guy stole a cart because somebody left the
key in the cart. Uh, and he just drove off
with the cart at Sofi. Unfortunately, the cart in the
back had two Harris's hot has. People use hawks, at
least in this area hit the birds, Yeah, to take
other birds out, and they use them around the station
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for like other studios.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah. So hawks come and clear the area and kick ass.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
So this guy stole two hawks.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Maybe he didn't know he stole the hawks. They found
the cart, and they found the body of two quail. Uh,
the bodies of too quail that were killed with a
sharp object. The quail some stations in town mistook for
the hawks. Hawks that were right.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
The quail were also in the cages.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
Which life not more important hawks? I mean he shouldn't
all bird lives matter?
Speaker 8 (38:45):
Well yeah, but now you're saying like I had my
snake and the two rats. I was gonna feed my
snake and I can't find my snake, but I found
the two.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Rats dead though, that's another blm.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Birds lives.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Yes, some people don't even feel like birds are real,
like they're all spies. But anyway, uh, the the search
continues for the hawks.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Very job, mister obvious. Another be all ill matters.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
That's like what.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Keep the hashtag going? So then what's the Have they
found them?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I don't believe.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
So they need and they have to be found by
Thursday because if they don't eat or drink by Thursday,
of course you know they're birds.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Could they fly somewhere and get some food? I don't know,
but the search.
Speaker 8 (39:35):
Continues somewhere and get some food? You know, I don't
know the the stolen hawks if.
Speaker 9 (39:42):
They're flying free right now in the in the wild,
how would you know which which who they are?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Don't have.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
And you're like you looked in the back, like damn
you know, there's two big ass birds, you know, probably
just let them go, I would imagine, or try to
sell them.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Is there surveillance of this?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Who's gonna buy a hawk and anglewood?
Speaker 9 (40:02):
I mean, hey, bro, black market is crazy man? Literally,
I mean did it? That's what it's been labeled? And
we I mean, why not finish the way we started?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Good?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
So I'm just trying to figure out the quail that
died with via the sharp object?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Do they what do we talk to quail?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
So?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Did the guy pull a shive?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
What do we I don't know.
Speaker 8 (40:30):
That's the details of what I have so far. I'm
looking to see if there's any update and no, it's
about eleven hours old.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
And then everybody's like, you know what about Hawktua they
find her, it's.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
All right, oh gosh, you got to give him that.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Hawk that night.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
It's the two that gets me every time, is like
the hawk is one thing, but she really did just
kind of disappear.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
A crypto thing. She she almost went to jail for
quite some time. She had a crypto fraud thing.
Speaker 5 (41:11):
Why didn't she go to jail for that?
Speaker 4 (41:13):
By the way, I don't know, I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Because of the hot hot to everyone, and they're like,
I will, we'll, We'll let you go this time.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Pet isn't there a hawk man? I was like, yeah,
there's a hot girl and there's a hot.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
To a girl, Petris. Do you respect her or Costco?
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Ho more the Hoe? Yeah? I like the Costco.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
You liked the way she just had a big breast reduction, though, Really,
isn't that a slap in the face to god?
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
She might have had fake ones I put those moreheads.
I mean still, I mean, in all seriousness, I think
that uh her bro the other way around.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
No one's like, yeah, I got to take some off here.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
They were enhanced and now she's probably over it.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Why why unenhanced them?
Speaker 4 (42:04):
I don't know. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Now can she still be the what the costco?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
What the costco?
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Can she still be the costco?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Come? You guys, don't pull any costco ho for me?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Do you do it better?
Speaker 8 (42:19):
I love the cost Nobody does it better than the
costco HO. I mean, but she's got less to dip
now in the aisles.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Uh, Petro's always good job really broke that down for us.
Everything from the costco hoes, breast reduction to USC football
lack of complimentary black falconer.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
There. He Is said after the game, Brady, did you
go like, hey, what happened there? Buddy?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
What?
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (42:50):
We actually had to do like a really quick like
it was like a minute thirty pill. Everyone was so quick,
So I don't know that anyone said anything. It was like,
all right, your fifteen seconds. We're like goud Win of
my Illinois Luke Altmeyer.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
We're off air. Like it was like a really really
click deal.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Yeah, how'd that go for you?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
There? Matt?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
There is Petros Papadegus the cost of the Petros Money Show.
You can hear on nil seventy LA Sports and Fox
College Football Analyst Thanks p. Get him on Exit the
Old p.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
I'm a winner. Listen up. Winning cures all illnesses. It
really does. I'm going to win. It's Quinn's win.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Yeah, all right, we have to own up. We have
to recap last week.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
It was a rough week, rough Week one, five and
one picked a lot of the big boy games. Bama
Georgia was conflict. Went with Georgia, Bama got took care
of business. LSU getting a point and a half at
Old Miss just kind of needed to see it from
Old Miss. Obviously, they proved me wrong with that one too.
Florida State at Uva. What a win for Uva. They
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had the juice the entire time that game. That was
I don't want to say shocking, but definitely surprising. Chandler
Morris played his tail off happy for the Cavaliers. Wahu
wah to see them perform that way, but it definitely
didn't kill one of those bets.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
Washington versus Ohio State.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
I really thought first road Big Ten game for the
Buckeyes might be some troubles, but that defense is legit.
I mean, Don Williams Junior is a really good player.
Jonah Coleman's one of the best running backs in the
Big Ten. Denzel Boston, I mean, they've got players, now
tell them six points, it's ridiculous. And then USC Illinois
I'll be the first to tell you that secondary Farrell
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Annoy I think there were missing four or five starters.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
And if there's one thing.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
That USC going into that game does extremely well storing
the football round. They still did it, but Illinois's offense
stepped up a completely different team from what we saw
the week prior fors Indiana. So a number of losses
tough to go buy TCU Arizona State. They pushed and
then obviously the only winner. I took the three and
a half points in Oregon, who obviously won out.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
Right, well not on it. Yeah, I had to recap it.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
But this week's games another week with a lot of
big lines here, LeVar, I know your sensitive about it.
There's nothing I can do, all right. They can't win
a white I don't tell you, all right, maybe the
Beetlehouse State, I know, trust me, I knew this was
going to come up. I knew it would be a
soft spot for you.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
Yeah, nothing we can do about it, though, all right,
do your wins, all right?
Speaker 6 (45:49):
This week we've got dabot what ten and sixteen on
the season, so below the five hundred, not not that
last week kind of tarpoon things. But we're gonna get
back on track this week, and it starts off with
a battle the acc Dabo or Dabbo, depending on how
some people call them.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
Pointnoy for some reason calls them Dabo's weird.
Speaker 6 (46:10):
Clemson's taken on UNC, and they're laying what thirteen and
a half last time I checked for fourteen fourteen?
Speaker 5 (46:18):
Around fourteen now there on DraftKings.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
At some point, Clemson's gotta figure this out, right, I
mean at some point, and I would imagine there will
probably more Clemson fans in Chapel Hill than North Carolina.
I mean, that's that's my bet on this. But Clemson's
the way more talented team. It's a proven track record.
This year has been rough, but I think this could
be a get back on track game for them. I'm
gonna lay the fourteen points and Clemson on the road here.
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Next up one that should make LeVar Arrton happy. Penn
State traveling out to LA to take on the Bruins.
The Brugans. I've already fired their head coach. They're struggling offensively.
This is a get right game for James Franklin. Historically
he's had no issue whatsoever covering these big spreads.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
And the line is twenty four and a half lay them.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Penn State will pound UCLA, not be onble to score,
and then Penn State's offense will run all over.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
The UCLA defense. So love laying the big number there
with the Nidney Lions.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
Next up, a sneaky, really good battle, and you wonder
if Washington gets beat twice by Ohio State or how
they come out of that game.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Washington's going to.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
A head all the way across the country to Maryland
and they're getting six and a half points. I thought
the UDUB offense got a little bit exposed last week.
First Ale State defense, although there's just kind of that good.
But I've been hyping up Malak Washington all year long,
the true freshman quarterback. He could sling it and they've
got playmakers on the outside. So I like Maryland at home.
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Tough game, big game, but a West Coast team that
you know, again, different time zones. I'll take the six
and a half in Maryland. Next up, another great matchup.
This Houston team has I would say exceeded expectations, probably
for most in the Big Twelve, but a big number here.
They're hosting Texas Tech, who I believe to be the
best team in the Big twelve, but in eleven and
(48:07):
a half points, that's the number.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
It's a little bit too much for me. I think
this Houston team can score with others. Barren more than
the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (48:14):
For Texas Tech. Remember he was knocked out the last
game they played versus Utah. Will Hammond came in played
phenomenal more will be back for this one. So go
in and take the eleven and a half points with
Houston and our final matchup TCU at home taken on Colorado.
It's a big number. It's thirteen and a half points. Look,
I think this is Colorado team has struggled. They've they've
(48:35):
kind of had a you know, rotating Charoit quarterback there
for them and on the road versus a team that
I think TCU is flying under the radar as one
of the best teams in the Big twelve. So I'm
laying the thirteen and a half points. See who's lost
two of their last three. The struggling to put up points,
especially when they face power for competition. The only average
about twenty points of games. So Josh River has been
phenomenal this year for TCU. I like the Horned Frogs
(48:59):
the teen and a half here That's what I'm.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Talking about right there. You know what, what a persevere
with buddy, Maybe this will be a better week. Rough week,
crazy week in college football. Get up off the stool,
ready for another round?
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Well, I mean again, three and one really could have
been four hour, but we got cut out.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Whens, Whens. It's like if a tree fall.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
It's like it never existed.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
A tree falls in the forest, Is anybody here, you know,
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