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October 17, 2025 64 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about Zaire Franklin claiming Juju should have had his ass kicked. Plus, the guys discuss Micah Parsons going on a rant about officiating and the tush push + Albert Breer joins the show, and more!

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Speaker 3 (00:33):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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LaVar Arrington, Jonas noxet the here a no, Brady Quinn, Hey,
who cares? Black and Dracot you covered here on a
football Friday.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
I get to talk less. Now I can have like, hey, bribe,
be talking about Lord. You talked too much? Hey Bro,
when Ques here, I don't have to say anything. I
just say yeah, you're right, No, you're wrong. Yeah, I run.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I ran to the liquor store a couple of days ago.
Christ Bro came back still going, man.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
So don't don't be saying who cares like I still
get my check. I get to chill out, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's hanging, chilling man hanging and banging man.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Hanging and banging, slanging and banging, dig.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Dig it all right, So, uh so it is a
tradition every single Thursday, but instead it's a special one. No, well,
if we want the Ohio State fight, so I'm probably
that would probably be fun. Yeah that was Notre Dame,
wasn't or was that Michigan?

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
That was that was.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
All right? That was that was dangerous if you hit
the Michigan. But well with that, nobody likes Michigan around here.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
With that said, we turn it over to the one
and only Albert Brier, Senior and if our reporter, lead
content strategist at the MMQB. You can get him on
x at Albert Breer AB. Happy Friday, Happy Football Friday
to you and yours.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Happy Friday, guys. I uh yeah that first song you
were playing, isn't there some sort of second year rivalry
this weekend? Right? I think?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yes, yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Yeah, it could be gone,
could be uh, it could be doing away with it.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
You know, I will say that sucks, like I can't
believe that, Like, I can't believe that that's being allowed
to happen. And I mean I know it's like a
result of conference rey alignment and all that, but thats
just it just sucks the idea of stuff like that
to go away.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm sure Brady w with me there gun right, Well
now he's not in I think everybody would agree. It's
like remember when Mike Gundy was like, well, you know,
the uh, the Oklahoma Oklahoma state rivalry is dead because
they change conferences. It's like, man, I feel like with
non conference schedules, there was probably a way that you
could figure that went out to still exist. Like it

(03:01):
just feels like there's some ways to do it, and yeah,
it's a bummer.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Just do it. I mean that's the bottom line. You
just you play the game. There's just some things like
would could you imagine if they're, oh, we're going to
do away with the Ohio State Michigan game, Like, ah,
just doesn't make sense anymore. Like come on, man, there's
just certain things you just do, Like it's not even
worth a discussion. You just do it. There's nothing to
figure out.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
You just do it, right, doesn't like Penn used to
play every.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Year, right, yes, yeah, and that was a big that
was a big deal. But you got to keep in
mind though we still played a second fiddle to West
Virginia and Pitt The Backyard Brawl was a real that
was a real rivalry, you know what I mean, Like
Penn State. Yeah it was a thing, but it wasn't
like it did not weigh the Backyard Brawl, So you

(03:52):
know what I mean, Like there's there's a there's some
like like the Red River or or the what the
fight for Paul Bunyan's or whatever. Like when you create
these types of rivalries, and especially the ones that have
lasted through like time, like since the beginning, you can't
do that. I'm sorry. A coach cannot make that type

(04:14):
of decision.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I don't just if you got to take that al,
you take that ale like that's the bottomless I'm going
to do.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
That should not be like that should not be in
like some coach or TV executive. That should not be
under that.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
That'd be gone, Right, they'll be gone in a year
or two, like maybe even even if they get a
twenty thirty year run, a forty year run of working
doesn't matter doesn't outweigh what the rivalry represents. It's just
it's crazy to make people allow people to get involved
with business that way. But yeah, I digress, Albert.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I got a question for you. I know, obviously Ohio
state near and dear to your heart. There was a
big game in Ohio last night, Bengals getting a win
over the Steelers. And what makes that in a little
bit more competitive than what we thought it was going
to look like with all the injuries at quarterback and
whatnot in the Steelers performance. When Mike Tomlin was talking

(05:08):
about Andrew Berry trading Joe Flacco within the division, was
that sort of him kind of throwing up a flair gun, like, uh,
this could be a problem that guy on that team
with those receipts and those weapons, Like, I don't you know,
Like what was Andrew Berry thinking? Because watching that game,
it's like, man, all of a sudden, you're feeling about

(05:31):
the Bengals and their chances moving forward have completely switched
in a week.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
I agree. I mean, I personally think so Mike Tomlin
and Kevin Stefanski have a good relationship. I think it's
Mike Tomlin getting that Kevin Stefanski's back and knowing that
that was a Steanski's call and feeling like the coaches
maybe got like that this was something that like maybe

(05:56):
the coaches wouldn't have done, you know. And I think
there's a fraternity there with those guys where they can
see when these things happen and they feel for their colleagues,
you know. So I think that that's what that was.
And I'm with you. I think this changes the dynamic,
like I felt this way when they trade it for him.

(06:17):
You know, a lot of people said like, oh, we
can't move anymore behind that offensive line. I'm like, have
you seen who he's going to be throwing to? How long?
With those receivers? Do you think he's going to have
to hold on to the ball? Do you actually think
this is going to be like Jake Browning where he
doesn't isn't he isn't deciphering what he's seeing, or he's
in the forty year old quarterback's going to be able
to go in there and get rid of the ball

(06:40):
fast and put Jamar Chase and t Higgins in the
position to make plays. And that's what it is. That's
the Bengals saw, Well, it's Okay, like we've got a
little bit of an offensive li top, we still have
the great weapons. How do we mitigate that and how
do we put together an offense in the drop back
game that's closest to what Joe Burrow is doing so
we can maximize the other ten guys in the huddle.

(07:02):
And that's why Joe made sense for them. And really
they're not asking Joe to be Superman, although he kind
of was last night. What they're asking him to do
is just get them back to level ground. And you know,
I have a game December fourteen circled in my head, right,
like the Bengals play the Ravens that day and that's

(07:22):
thirteen games in for them, So like to me, it's
like that's three months after that's three months of the
day of Joe Burrow's injury. So to me, I look
at it and I say, can you get to that date?
Can you get to that date and be seven and six?
Because if you can now, all of a sudden, you
got Joe Burrow back in the lineup. And are we

(07:45):
talking about the Bengals are really dangerous if they can
get in it, you know what I mean? Because the
AFC is a little sideways. So the whole idea in
getting Placau was how do we maximize the guys in
that huddle and can we get to December and get
Joe Burrow back in a situation where we're still playing
relevant games because every opportunity you have to go into

(08:08):
January with a quarterback like Joe Burrow as gold. I
think that's where they're at and it came together last night.
They've got the Jets, they've got the Bears, then they've
got their buy. They don't play on the road for
another month. I mean, you can see them being five
and four when they play the Steelers again a month
from now in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
What's it going to take to get cam Ward into
relevant games into the season? Do you mean the less
what's going to what is it going to take?

Speaker 5 (08:39):
I mean, I just think stabilities of Borrow and that's
the biggest thing. And it sucks for all the young
quarterbacks where this happened. It seems to happen over and
over again. I'm sure you guys saw that earlier this
week that the last four number one overall pick quarterbacks
have gone through mid seasons firings. This rookie that's like
textbook how not to do it. You do know what

(09:00):
I mean organizationally when it comes to developing a quarterback.
But that's what it was for Trevor Lawrence when he
was a rookie with Urban Meyer. That's what it was
for Bryce Young when he was a rookie with Frank right.
And that's what it was for Caleb Williams last year
when he was a rookie with Matty's. And so you know,
the biggest thing I think for Cam is they that

(09:22):
the Titans have to find a way to stabilize the
situation around him and put an incod infrastructure. And that
doesn't need to mean, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean
we have to hire a head coach to the quarterbacks guy.
I mean I last time, Jed Dregy is doing just
fine with the defensive head coach right like in Mike Rabel.
So you know what it does mean is that you

(09:44):
have to I think, create a stable situation around him. Man,
that can start now, you know, it's like the boy
being involved obviously, you know, like but you know, I
think as far as your long term planning goes, like
you have to have a plan that's sustainable, So you're
not doing this again to him in a year or two,
you know, and you want to try to create like

(10:06):
the that situation you possibly can for him. And now
they've got a lot of runway to do that. Obviously.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, let
me ask you about Mike Rabel. Obviously he returns back
to Nashville. LeVar and I were speculating maybe he gets
a little petty while he's there, like, just just remind
me again why they were better off without him? Like,
how did that go? Because upon further review, the Titans

(10:34):
look like a clown show based on their decision making
with not only that but Derek Henry, who clearly still
has something left in the tank.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
What was the plan there?

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Well, I mean a short answer is they weren't better off, right.
The longer answer is a little more complicated. So they
fire Gen Robinson. The owner does not like being embarrassed
aj Brown and bears the owner in the organization. In
twenty twenty two, in December, he went for like eight

(11:06):
one sixty whatever it was. And so two days later
the owner decide she's firing the general mansisteracture. So John
Robinson ats fired at the end of twenty two, and
then going into twenty three, they give Mike Brabele a
ton of power, and for better or worse, there was
a feel in that organization that you were either a

(11:28):
Mike Brable guy or you weren't, and it was a
little siloed offs there. Right, you hire a general manager
who did that size yam and ran carthon on and
they go through the year and she more or less
decide I don't like the way the building feels right now,
and I don't like the structure. I don't think this

(11:48):
is the right structure. And at that point you the
only way to take the power away from Mike Brabel
was the fire us. So they kind of got themselves
like tied up in It's like, okay, well, I don't
like the aj Brown trade anymore, so I fired the GM,
So I'm going to give the coach the power. Oh wait,
I don't like having a coach who has that much power,

(12:11):
So now I'm going to just blow the whole thing
up completely. And that's how they end up where they
end up. Now, I would argue John Robinson inherited it
free and thirteen came into twenty sixteen, was walked in
with Marcus Mariota as his quarterback when he had inherited
and he had six straight winning seasons. Rayville came aboard

(12:33):
and the third of those seasons he made the playoffs
three times in four years, won two division titles on
to an AFT title game. I think those guys aren't
the right to rebuild it right the door of their
head age shout. But she was so focused on what
was six inches in front of her face, which is
what was happening right now in both those circumstances, then

(12:55):
she wound up tearing down, you know, a structure that
was really working for that and then have built an
identity there. And uh, you know, I think it's an
owner's job in that situation to me, at least when
there is some issues, you know, and when there are
there is some back and forth the way the owner's job.

(13:18):
The owners have very many jobs on the football side,
but making those things work is one of them. And she,
instead of making it that work, started firing people. And
now we see the results.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Let me let me ask you about what's going on
in New York. I believe Dan Campbell's record his first
year in Detroit West three and thirteen if my memory
ERNs me correctly, Yeah and one. That's a horrible record,

(13:52):
horrible record, and most people won't recall that. That's how
low the Detroit line started off after that fiery presser
that that Dan Campbell delivered and bite kneecaps and punching
ankle you know, ankles and stuff like that. Uh, Aaron

(14:14):
Glenn's going through the same thing right now, could possibly
outdo three and thirteen and one in New York. And
you hear whispers and murmurs and and things coming out
popping up. Should Aaron Glenn be fired? How should fans
be reacting to this? I mean, is this a place

(14:36):
where the same thing that happened in Detroit could actually
happen again in New York?

Speaker 5 (14:45):
I think you have to be patient, LeVar, you know,
I think, like you said, like in Detroit they were
zero to nine, they were ten and one, and they
finished that season three and three. If you remember, like
over the course that season, like you started to see
hope and that like a play style was emerging. You

(15:09):
started to see like, all right, like this is a
team that actually they have an identity and they're not
there yet. From a roster standpoint, but we're starting to
see some things we like, and then it manifested wins
at the end of the year, and they had some
momentum going into the next year, and then the next
year didn't start out great either. If you remember what
they caught fire in the middle of that year and

(15:30):
they were often running and how they are what they are.
I think that's what you're looking for now, right is
all right? You've had your rough start, inherited a roster
that I thought was really good. I know some people
in that building feel like maybe it was a little
bit overrated, and so what you're looking for I think
the rest of the year the play style and identity,

(15:53):
Like you want to see who they are, and you
would hope by the end of the year that starts
to manifest and wins the way I did at the
end of the end of the year in Detroit. So
that's where the hope is me is like Aaron Glen
growing into the role, but also like just starting to
see what he wants them to become. Because I think

(16:14):
even when the Lions were as bad as they were
that first year, by the end of that year we
had a good idea of what Dan Campbell was trying
to build, And so that's what I'd be looking for
if I were a Jets fan, right.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategists with us
here on Fox Sports Radio, it's two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on FSR SO trade deadlines coming
up in a couple of weeks, Alvin Kamara said, you know,
if you trade me, I'll just go drink Pina coladas.
So he seems to be off the table. Joe Flacco's
already been traded. What are we looking at? Are their
names out there to watch situations to monitor that you go,

(16:48):
you know, something could pop off there?

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Sure, I mean I think it's like the easy thing
to do is like just look at like which teams
are gonna be waving the white flag now? You know,
Like last night game's a good example, right, Like there's
a lot of talk about Trey Hendrickson. Thing goes right
down a little bit, like they've got two games that
are winnable between now and the trade deadline. I think,

(17:12):
like you look at that and say, Henry, it makes
sense for them to Keith Endrances, right, Like, so like
which teams are we looking at? I'd say the Saints
are one, although Mickey Woman's has always been very reluctant
to move guy. So like, is the Mario Davis valuable
to somebody? I can't imagine what trade Cam Jordan's just

(17:32):
based on what he needs the franchise. But Crystal Lave,
Like if you come and you ask Christal Lave and
they haven't signed him to a long term extension, like
maybe he's somebody who are looking at. The Jets would
be another one, you know, Jermaine Johnson. Could you find
a way to try him if they aren't playing outside
of him Lungs or Briest Hall. That's an obvious one, right, Like,

(17:54):
I mean they don't have him signed and uh and
he's a free agent after the year. Miami they're better
in pass rushers Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips. So like, I
think you're looking at teams that have some mask that
you know, and like you look at Tennessee also, but
who does Tennessee have that he would really be like, yeah,

(18:15):
like let me go get him, Like maybe Calvin Ridley, right, Like,
so those are the teams I think you'd be looking
at teams that maybe like are in a position where
they have to be a little bit more realistic with
themselves about where they are, you know, and then you
you you look at the guys contract situations that you
go from there.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I'm good, all right, Well, Albert, we've taken enough of
his time. I'll pause like I was going to keep
going like that. We're good, all right? Well what I mean?

Speaker 6 (18:46):
You know?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Now?

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Now I got a question, Lamar, who's your coach.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
Going to be?

Speaker 4 (18:51):
I don't know. Are you hopeful that can beat Ohio State?

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Are you? Are you an next teammate of one of
the candidates? Is that right? I think you are right.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Well played, I do not know.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think that's right, right, I think I have my
timeline right here.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I think that's correct.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I do not I do not know.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Yeah, it might have been, might have been in the
same position going with you, I think I think I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Who are you speaking of?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I never heard of it A be speaking of a
speaking of college? It is that time. We've got to
ask you a question. So you know, with that being said,
you representing Columbus in the way that you do, do
you believe at the end of this week's game against
Wisconsin that Ohio State will have won by more than

(19:40):
twenty five and a half points.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
I do, I do, although I like, hey look like
Luke Figgles and a love figure in Columbus Bribe and
By and Day. I believe with the staff made of
Luke's for a year. So I don't think this is
like a went on the gas in the fourth quarter
game for them, So like that'd be my one concern.

(20:05):
Like for me, I think they would. I think they cover,
but I'm not sure. I would you this fine if
I were that, because I could see the fuck coming
off the gas a little bit. They're in the fourth
quarter with some sympathy for the guys.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Oh so they're gonna show They're going to show some
mercy there. And they're not a good team.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Let's call it what it is. They're not a good team.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
But God's is that? Yeah, so you're right, we're a
good tea. Yeah, yeah, it's not.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's not like Wisconsin used to strike fear into you
when you heard that name. It's not the same Wisconsin.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
So when we talk about identity, you knew.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
What they were, right, You knew what they were coming in.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
They look like they were, i mean, the most the
toughest post physical team you play all year. They were
that for twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Right, that's right, that's right, Mother than that baby. So
I heard there's not even enough people. I heard there's
not even enough people left by the fourth quarter to
do jump around anymore at those games. Right, No, I'm
just I made that. That's just I'm just possible.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
I mean, they probably just hang around just for that though.
That's probably the only thing that keeps them coming to
the games, to the bar. And I'm not one, and
I can't. I am not the calling the kettle black
right here, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
But I.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Appreciation in my heart. I mean, Camp Randle is really
just a big outdoor bar anyway, right.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, it is. It's fun for you get it in.
That's one of the best places to play a game.
It was one of the hardest places to play a game,
but not so much anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
All right, there he is, ab, We appreciate it. We'll
do it again next week. There is a great Albert
Breer will us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist.

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should be. We'll have another edition of in case you
mistic coming up here in a little over fifteen minutes
from now. Your guy Micah Parsons, he had some thoughts
yesterday decided, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and
let it fly a little bit here. I'm gonna go
ahead and just just let it fly, just air out
some a grievances, some issues I have with not only

(25:33):
the tush push, but the offense slash defense officiating in
the National Football League, the safety if you will, so
let's listen to number now, number one.

Speaker 9 (25:45):
If you actually he's offensive player, it's probably say that's
the best thing to do office right now. It's the
most consistent thing they got. But you know that might
come and bite me one day. It is what it is,
like like I hate that play like the Holy See
except play like I don't think you'll find one defensive
player in the league that's like, oh yeah, go tisch
push Like we got to learn how to stop it.

(26:06):
Can't stop it if they're leaving early, like it's impossible,
Like it's an unfair advantage, Like you got three hundred
and twenty pound momentum coming early on the play, like whatever,
but you gotta find a way. We put so much
emphasis on protecting the offense, like protect the defense, Like
a guy could be trying to catch the ball and
you make a defensive play so he doesn't catch it,

(26:27):
and it's targeting.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's a flag now.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
But a defensive end could be rushing and engaged with
another player and a guy could come blow his ribs
out and we're not considered defenseless. But like we said,
it's offensive league. Like I think a lot of the
rules are if you're gonna say it's about protecting the
players and protect all players, don't just protect one side
of the ball. And then like people want to encourage
like that's not good football, Like that's not safe football

(26:51):
if that's what they want to preach, Like what are
we talking about here, Like and like how many times
that's on film guys putting their head down and trying
to come clean your clock, But you can't do that,
it's offensive. Players get a city thousand dollars fine. I
might get a fine for this contract.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
So it's like he's talking about racial relations. I mean,
I mean, don't put hand. That might have went over
your head if you put home. I mean, i'd be
that is just very that was a very easy one.
But but I will say he's right, Yeah, he's not

(27:26):
He's not wrong. He's not wrong. He is not wrong
with what he's saying. So uh, and that's it's a
conversation that I know I approach often on this show
about you know, stiff arms and obviously running with your
head down is ridiculous. What these offensive linemen are doing

(27:46):
at the end of plays is ridiculous. It's just the
amount of holds and and and ways that these defenders
are being grabbed up by linemen. It's ridiculous. It's redict
and it's out of control, and it's running rampant and
and there's there's not going to be anything done about it. Now,

(28:08):
while you say figure it out, you know, there's an
ignorant ignoramis as my mom would say, an ignoramius city.
I don't know, but you know they're saying, ah, you
just got to figure it out. That's just part of
the game. Well, yeah, it is part of the game.
But like Mike Mike ha said, don't make it out

(28:30):
to be about player safety. It's about quarterback safety. It's
about offensive production. That's what it's about. That's what it
That's what it's totally about. And just act as though
act accordingly, and don't act as though it's something that
it's not. You're not. It's not about concussions and bringing

(28:51):
down the number of concussions. No, it's about keeping the
guys that packed the seats and by the jerseys upright
and playing in the games. It's bad for business for
Joe Burrow to be out. Now, this wasn't an injury
where he got hitting the head or anything like that.
He got a situation where it played out. His toe

(29:13):
is hurt, Like, okay, your toe's hurt, But maybe that
toe got hurt because somebody landed on him the way
they landed on him when something happened during the course
of the play. We're going to try to find a
way to legislate it out of the game. You know
what's funny, if the tush push existed on the defensive

(29:34):
side of the ball, you know what they would do.
You know they have been done, Jonas. If there was
a way where you were able to tush push into
the backfield and ruin what the offense is doing immediately
upon the play being ran. You know what the NFL
would do, They would legislate that play formation, whatever it is,

(29:55):
they would legislate it right on out of the game,
no questions asked, baits, none of that outed here. But
but they don't do that for the offensive side of
the ball. And and so what Micah had to say,
he isn't wrong. But I ultimately say for the touch push,
you just can't let him get in the short yardage.
I mean you got to stay ahead of the stay

(30:16):
ahead of the downs.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Who was the guy because I think it happened to
Carson Palmer. It also happened to Tom Brady. Peco was
the guy, I think on Carson Palmer. I forget who
the guy was that landed into Tom Brady's knee, you know,
but you remember Carson Palmer in the playoff game against
the Steelers. It was like van Hoffen or something well like,
but I thought it was I thought it was Pecko

(30:39):
from the Bengals. But the point is, like you watch
that landed on who's well like Carson Palmer. Remember in
the playoff.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
How could he land on Carson Palmer's leg?

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, he fell into Carson Palmer. That's like, That's what
I'm getting at is that he was both on the Bengals. Now,
who is the guy who landed on Carson is like
Olin van Hoffen, Well, okay, So if you look at
that play and you've got Carson Palmer in the pocket
throwing the football and a guy unintentionally lands on Carson

(31:10):
Palmer's knee, you've got Tom Brady trying to throw the football,
a guy unintentionally lands on his knee. There was no
intent involved, and the NFL did away with that to
where now same thing, no intent, total accidental. You can
try and stop yourself, but an no alignment pushes you
into the quarterback and you're the one that gets popped

(31:31):
fifteen yards because it's a roughing the passer and you
could get pushed into the quarterback. And we see it
all the time, like I saw one against Dak Prescott
earlier this year, where it's like, what what is the
defender supposed to do at that point?

Speaker 4 (31:44):
What are you supposed to do? Van Ohoffen, Yeah, two
thousand and six, Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer, like obliterate.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
It, but none of the knee But none of those
were intentional, Like those, aren't it? You're not in like
I can understand, Like there's been some time where look,
people like to claim Rodney Harrison the Trent Green one.
They go, wow, he could have stopped himself, like he
pushes back on that. I got to understand some of these.
But if you look at it case by case, as
they should, then you could say, all right, well this

(32:17):
one's different. He was pushed into him. There was no
intent there that it's But instead they're just like, no,
everybody gets a flag.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
I wouldn't try to defend me knocking a sucker out
at all. If I knocked him out, I knocked him out.
So what should he dies? He dies, should you get it?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Should you get a fifteen yard personal foul and potentially
a fine for that?

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I could see, Like to me, a tackle is a tackle.
A tackle is a tackle. And again, let me let
me remind some of you out there, some of you
soft asses. Let me remind you. More often than not,
the quarterbacks are bigger than the dudes that are hitting them.

(33:05):
They're generally bigger than the guys that are hitting them.
So when you create all of these new rules, you
start to see guys like Patrick Mahomes able to run
through tackles and breaking arm tackles. Oh my gosh, look
at his strength. Oh look at Josh Allen. He's just amazing.
Oh he's rumbling and he's stumbling. Well, put him out

(33:28):
there in the serengetti. Don't put him into zoo. Put
him into serengetti. See what they've done is they created
a zoo environment, a protected area. You're not getting real predators.
You're not dealing with the lions being real lions. You're
not dealing with tigers being real tigers. You're not dealing

(33:49):
with that. You ain't gotta worry about hyenas. No, you're
worrying about like you know, they got it set so
you it's a petting, petting zoo, Like go go pet them,
you can even feed them like it's not wild. What
they it's not? I don't know who knows. It's probably vegetarian,

(34:10):
did vegetarian meals. I'm just saying, these dudes be like six',
four six' five, and above be weighing two hundred and
fifteen twenty. Thirty pounds some of them can run like.
The WIND so i gotta stop and think About how
i'm going to catch Up with lamar to, begin with

(34:32):
and then his slippery, WIGGILY asked i gotta figure Out
how i'm going to hit him without. Hurting him, it's
like it's so freaking upsetting when you're a defender that
you're not really able to do, your job but yet
you'll be judged by. Your coach in the film Study,

(34:53):
with ooho look at what he did. To you oh
he ran right. Through you da da Da this now, they're,
like man, come, on bro there was a time where
you could actually hit. A quarterback it just. Ain't, now
yeah and it's impacted.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
The game It Was bernard pollard WHO had i don't
KNOW what i, was Saying. Thinking peco why was that
name popping into?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
My head that was a different, guy though. Wasn't it
It wasn't palmer? That was who?

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Was that?

Speaker 3 (35:21):
He Said So bernard Pollard Hit tom brady in. The
knee that was. That was it was week one of
the twenty eight two thousand and, eight season after they
went To The. Super bowl was.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
There the safety from the bank From THE ravens.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I think he was On the chiefs at. THE time, i,
THINK yeah i think it was On. The chiefs but
you know the other, thing too is that not everybody
and this is, you know like not everybody's got a
cannon for an arm and can. Play quarterback but it
doesn't mean you can't be a great. Player elsewhere and
so how many players were great players on defense, like

(35:56):
yourself who were at one point you were running back
and then at some point you got to the league
or you got to college and it, was, like no
we're just going to make you. A linebacker you're going
to play on that side of.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
The ball well THAT'S what i wanted. To, DO well
i chose to play on.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
That side but it's like what they're telling you in
finding and putting the rules and regulations IN the nfl
nowadays is that one side of the ball is, more important, which,
means well only one side of the ball is the
one with all, The stars like that's The only like
that's not.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Necessarily true why is it? Judged dipper it is geared
towards the offense having the. Upper hand it's NOT that,
i mean some of your biggest stars of all time
are from the defense side of. THE ball i, WOULD
say i would venture to say the biggest personalities that
you've ever dealt with IN the nfl are from the,

(36:49):
defensive side and Start With deonce.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
And part of what made them stars is their ability
to play defense at a high level without all the
restrictions and regulations attached. To, it like there are less
stars on The Defensive and i'm not saying they're not,
great players but there are less quote unquote stars on
the defensive side of the ball because they have made
it to where you can't play the way you should

(37:14):
play otherwise you're gonna, get Popped Like michael, parson says
fifteen yards and you're gonna get a big.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Fine. Afterwards crazy who are the biggest superstars in football?
RIGHT now i mean you start With What, Patrick Mahomes.
Jason Kelcey jason kelsey Is Probably Travis.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Travis kelsey see he's not that.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Big of a starting soon to. Be wife that's probably
a good, point anyway that makes. Him famous but, you
know my whole thing is, is like like who on
the offensive side are really carrying being?

Speaker 3 (37:49):
A Superstar, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe BURROW mahon I Think.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Joe burrow mahome, Like, SUPERSTARS like i know. They're good
you're naming, Good players you're naming players that WIN The
mvp award and stuff, Like that but, are like what
are we how are we? Defining superstars because maybe that

(38:18):
would be what is the determining factor because some of
those names are not they're.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Not superstars if we're talking, crossover appeal like you see him,
in commercials you. See them Then, there's Mahomes There's josh
allen you see. In commercials, there's yeah like you Don't
see lamar do a lot of.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
That stuff There's not there's, not, Many, bro yeah there's.
Not Many Miles garrett jump comes to mind for the
defense in side of.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
The ball what commercials is he in other than don't drive?

Speaker 4 (38:46):
FAST anymore i, Don't know like like that's but BACK
In j Watt. TJ watt i mean some of these guys.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
DO commercials I just i don't know that the people
are walking around Going On.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
MIKAH parsons i don't know the.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
People are walking, around, going Oh That's. Michaeh PARSONS and
i think part of that is THE way.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
I think you're. Exercising, BIAS no I think.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I'm trying to defend defenders because they're they're not allowed
to play the way they should be allowed.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
TO play i agree with what, you're SAYING but i
do think that there's just as many superstars on the
defensive side of the ball as there is on the
offensive side of.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
THE ball i. DO well i know this that it
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Speaker 2 (42:33):
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Speaker 4 (42:37):
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Speaker 3 (42:39):
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Speaker 4 (42:45):
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one i did was Pour some Sugar.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
On me, so yeah pour some sugar.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
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knows i remember there was a an older this is
back when, you know nil, didn't exist and it, was,
like hey, you know you can't really you can't really
offer up certain things. To recruits. It's illegal but there
WAS an i, DON'T know i don't want to, say
scandal but BACK in i think two thousand, and nine

(43:16):
there was some recruits who took a trip and a
Visit To mississippi state and they went On their facebook
page or might have been their MySpace or something like
that at, the time and they kept talking about how
they really loved the campus and they had a great
time at. The pony and their parents saw this and
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(43:37):
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they were getting at it like these seventeen eighteen year
old kids were at the, strip club the pony there.
People too, so look, YOU know i mean it's good
to see it's still, in existence and it's good, to
see as you, pointed out, you know they're still out
there working hard and, you know making a track home
for some of them be.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Worked out are some of will be working?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
All right so, from strippers okay to something else in.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
The, transition this let's.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
See this Remember how Juju smith schuster got in that
Altercation With, brian Branch And brian branch got popped a
game for it because He Punched Juju smith SCHUSTER and i, was,
like man what that was? Uncalled for what did you do?
That for and then it, was like well he kind
of cleaned him up on a, crack Back And brian
branch just pissed, a yeah and, then yeah did the

(44:36):
old the same thing he did to, you know Your
guy vontes perfect just like not like cleaned him up
in a game Against the bengals years ago and then stepped. Over,
Him Well Juju smith schuster did. That again he did
It To brian branch and they had. The, Altercation Well
zire franklin Of, the colts he had some thoughts on the.
Entire situation he was hanging out On the club five

(44:59):
twenty podcast and he went on To Defend.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Brian branch first, of all you just needed. His ass
let's just let's just let's just.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Go there.

Speaker 10 (45:07):
Number one what everybody he him specifically really needs his as.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
He been needing his asthma for. A minute brian bears
doing the work Of.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
The.

Speaker 10 (45:18):
Lord bro, HE'S okay i, heard that and he has
sneaking this like this is.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
My thing I'm a i'm a talk greezy. To you
i'm Gonna go we're gonna go.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Right up and when we get that one, ON one
i ain't gonna dunck. The smoke SO whether i win
to lose it is what. It is he the type
that's gonna do all the, little weird. Sneaky stuff put
you behind, the back go run to. The rough, you're,
like bro shut your little then try to be cool with.
You after first, of all y'all seen. The picture though, The,
picture bro you can't be crying with your nose like you, got,
Kids bro like what's gonna happen with?

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Your son, come, On bro.

Speaker 6 (46:02):
But THAT'S how i think i'd be like probably be, talking,
LIKE bro i can't let you all do my son in.
THE stands i can't let you put your hands. On
me my girl watching might like, you know just Like
what i'm gonna tell, MY girl i. COME home i
just got my hands Who On, Sunday Night, soire franklin.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
He ain't said. Nothing inaccurate that picture of him on
the ground was that one. Was bad but then when
he showed him standing Next To coach reid with his
with his face all jacked up, and dishoveled that was
that made it all the. Way, worse bad all, the
way all the. Way, bad listen that was a dirty

(46:40):
hit on branch by. The way that was not a,
to me that was not a. Legitimate block he hit
him from behind THE way i. Saw, IT now i could,
be WRONG but i looked at the play a couple.
Of times, he's snucky, he's snucky and it was like
a it was like a crackback type. Of block but

(47:03):
he hit him in. HIS back i want, to say
hit him in. HIS back i believe he hit him in.
His back it was a. Dirty hit it, was CLOSE
and i think it was, too close, too, close, closer
closer to a dirty hit than it was to let's
go ahead and head you see, ME coming i see.
YOU coming i. HIT you i knocked. YOU down i

(47:23):
stepped over you like, he's snucking and then he stepped
over him and, to, me like tough guys get. Tough
consequences so if you out there playing, tough guy tough,
guy role everybody ain't playing by. That, rule like if
you're going to be a, tough guy then be a
tough guy to. My face don't be a tough guy behind.

(47:46):
My BACK now, I will i WILL say i was
guilty of doing this before, as well the guy. From behind.
IT'S guilty i am guilty. Of it but, BE clear
I knew i couldn't whip him. STRAIGHT up I knew
i couldn't get he was, too strong he had too much,
going ON and i was not going to be able

(48:08):
to take this bull head ON and i was hitting.
His dude, YOU know I realized i played against him,
in COLLEGE like i Played Against La charles bentley.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
In college, oh yeah And Former New Orleans Saint Cleveland
Brown La charles bentley didn't.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Even really recall playing against HIM until i watched it,
On film, like DANG like i was Playing Against la charle's.
IN college i was hitting him when he Played For.
New orleans i'll never. Forget it we was playing against
him At At FedEx FIELD and i had an a
gap blitz and he stepped OVER and i, hit HIM

(48:44):
and I mean i hit him with EVERY everything. I
had i was full speed by the time the ball.
WAS snapped i was going to slide through that a
gap and Get After aaron brooks and make. It work
and he. Shifted over he made the move. A center

(49:06):
the center made it over and got a hold of
me and. Stopped me like he didn't slow. Me down he.
Stopped me and like my, man said Like like, zier
said like, HEY man i got my family up here.
WATCHING me i got my son up here, watching ME
like i ain't gonna be a two hundred and fifty

(49:28):
Five Pound alvin mack in real life getting stopped by
one dude on the line. Of scrimmage so we ran
it again and he did.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
IT again.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
I, was, like, nah, nah, nah, no, no, no, no
no this ain't. Gonna work so. SOMETHING happened I think
deuce McAllister, got loose was running and the play was
going around the. OPPOSITE side i circled back AROUND and
i Saw The charles bentley jogging DOWN and i was,
behind HIM and i just. TOOK off i took off

(50:06):
on HIM and i hit him. From BEHIND but i
wouldn't let him. Get UP like, i KNEW if i
let him, GET up i was. In TROUBLE so i
didn't let him. Get UP so i plowed him, from
behind bow hit him, from behind knocked him down on.
THE ground i hear him on. The ground what What
the i'm just Hitting him jonas he's on. The ground

(50:27):
every time he tried to like, GET up i would hit,
him again knock him, down again hit. HIM again i
just kept. Hitting HIM and i don't even know how
the whole thing ended to, be HONEST but i JUST
know i talked so bad. To him by THE time
i was done knocking him, back down the play, was
over he, jumps up AND all i could remember was
just saying some of the most horrible things to him

(50:50):
about him and what he, could do and what, he
wasn't then what he was and and AND then i
was done. With IT so I get i get at
times you have a moment where maybe maybe the exchange But,
between Juju and branch was so Heated that juju was
on some get, back time like. That's POSSIBLE so i

(51:13):
understand both sides, of IT because i understand the side
of getting, snuck Too like i've been, snuck before, you
know And and i've been snuck and in a way
where it's like really really childish sneaking and went really
really BAD and i, don't know it didn't it. Just
wasn't it wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
At all but So you juju di HM Basically I.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Juju, Charles, BENTLEY yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
I did. I did like the one thing that makes
me think that there maybe wasn't any of, the well,
You Know Juju smith schuster also got it during the
Game From brian branch is that like We've seen juju do,
this before like he's done. This before like that's like
there's been. Like that there's there's been stuff out there about.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
LIKE but i believe He hit burfin straight up like
it was. A crackback but he caught him from the
front and by the way he sat him down in.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
The Front That steelers, BENGALS game i think that Was
a monday, night GAME and i think It Was john.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
GRUDEN and i.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
GOT it i forget who was the play by, play
guy but they were appalled At how that's one of
the most Violent games i've. Ever seen in, THE end, i.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Mean the worst one was when hines Hit. At reed
that's the. WORST one, I Mean burfits perfects. Was bad it.
Was bad definitely was. Not good it was it was.
Definitely ugly but the one on guy Dang, ed reed
that that That heines ward, laid out that was one
of the most Devastating blocks i've ever seen man like

(52:48):
ever Outside Of warren sap hitting old Boy On old oh?
KILLED him i thought he.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Killed Him Then mike schumer afterwards was like getting in
his face. And more, it's like you so tough put a.
Jersey on he was so tough put a.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
JERSEY on i thought he. Killed. Him bruh what'd, he
do like like severed?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
His, spleen yeah like there was like a hip or
something went. WRONG afterward i don't know if he was
ever the same. AFTER that i don't.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
KNOW that i don't see how you could ever be
the same after a hit. Like THAT but i don't
have any personal beef with with any.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Of.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Them dudes, you know when you're in, the game and,
you're active you know the politics better than. Other people
if that's, his reputation then that's. His reputation and defenders.
Know that they know that across, the league they know
who who like has that type of mark, on them
like what they were Saying. About Juju so juju has

(53:48):
apparently earned the reputation of needing to get his. Ass
WHIPPED and I guess branch, delivered it by.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
THE way i juju' Somebody in Ala a slayer mosh
Pit at. VENTURA feat i Swear to god on, this story,
this guy this fat sack, of crap was going around
the mosh pit and he, was huge and he was
just going around the mosh pit and he was just
like pushing, people over stepping, over.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
HIM like, i mean.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Clowning. Them hue he was a, huge bitch and he
was a bitch because he was doing it to people behind.
Their backs it. Was bad AND so i was so
FRUSTRATED because i DON'T even i don't mash to. Begin
with i'm JUST not i just wanted, to watch But. It's,
Slayer no i'm not just not. Into, it Yeah so
i'm on. The outside it was tight quarters and And,

(54:40):
it's slayer and it might have. Been that it might
Have been universal amphitheater Was That. Ventura THEATER and i,
remember thinking, all right next time that guy, Comes around
i'm stepping Out and i'm lighting. Him up and he came.
BACK around i, timed IT and i literally launched my
left shoulder into this. Fat slob this guy. Fell down

(55:01):
he knocked the people down behind him like, bowling pins
and he got up and just kind of nodded his head, like.
Hey cool just.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Kept going my shoulder hurts. So bad you were looking
at him like you look like you Look Like jim
carrey and and that that toilet stall went at the
at the. Truck stop, wait wait. You looked you looked
on the sad it's it shows Up, Every, wednesday Yeah

(55:31):
like wednesday at.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
The guy just.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Got it the guy just kind of brushed it off,
like whatever that's the best part of. The game and
my shoulder was killing, me again, Like Bad like i've
had a bum rotator cuff. Ever since it's been. TWENTY
years i got your money's WORTH though, i tried but
it just. It didn't, YOU know i DIDN'T get i
didn't get my. LICKS in I didn't i didn't stand over,
him either, which is, you know the other Part of,

(55:54):
juju's reputation the ONE thing i do wonder though you you,
did it though he saw you do oh, yeah yeah,
yeah yeah, straight, off yeah but the one the ONE
thing i do wonder about. This though so You've Got
brian branch speak out about, It afterwards You've Got, dan campbell,
you know apologizing on. HIS behalf i wonder If the

(56:15):
lions sent Clips Of Juju smith schuster's behavior to The
believe so that's and then You've Got zaire franklin, saying
This And zaire franklin's probably speaking on behalf of a
lot of defenders IN. The nfl, they're, like dude this
guy's been doing this for a, long time like he's done.
It before we've seen as we Mentioned the vontez. PERFECT
stuff i wonder if they're going To Watch Juju smith

(56:37):
schuster closer now and, be like, hey man this is
something to keep an. Eye on that this guy's got.
A reputation defenders are speaking out about it because if
You Punish brian branch and he continues to do this
and there's, no repercussions like that's also a bad look
talking about offense versus defense and how. They're officiated that's
a bad look BY. The nfl if you've got some

(56:57):
guy out there cleaning cleaning dudes up and then they
swing on him afterwards and they're the ones that get punished.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
For, it yeah THAT'S just, i mean you make a,
good Point but i'll tell, you this there's this thing called.
Martial law like what happened to him with that bloody
look on. His face either you wake up and you learn. Your, Lesson,
HEY juju i don't. KNOW you i don't, know YOU
but i would just let you know it a cautionary

(57:23):
tale you can. Be had, and again what you're saying
if there aren't is it any real proper recourse Taken
against juju for the things that. He's doing guys ain't
gonna just sit around and allow that. To happen they're
gonna be looking. For him so this is ALSO what
i want to let me.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Ask, you this are you because obviously, you know, hey
man team first and all, That stuff but with the
way you know offense and. Defense works when you see
that and you're a defender On, the chiefs do you
look at that and, go, hmmm hey is what? It
is or are you, like, now man you can't touch
our teammate. Like that you can't because that does feel

(58:03):
like you're sticking up for the for the, bigger picture
the fraternity of defenders as opposed to just the fifty
three plus guys in the locker, room there because that
that's that's kind of A Bad.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
If i'm in the vicinity of, The situation i'm going
to defuse the Situation or i'm going to be a part.
Of it either we could diffuse it or we can
handle the problem like we're gonna we're gonna get, It
down we're gonna get it done as. A team the
bigger picture is not the fraternity. Of defenders the bigger
picture is at that point, in time that's, my teammate

(58:37):
which makes him. My, family yeah but behind The, sundit,
now granted if it was my homie that he did,
that too then it would just be more of a
pleading like, like bro like, you know like, come on,
come on it's gonna be, all right you KNOW what.
I mean but if it's just a random defender and
he and he did that to one of, my teammates

(58:57):
we got to we got.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
The, thump down, All right so, then so but behind,
the scenes do you think some chiefs defenders, are like,
hey man.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Behind, the scenes you'd be like that was some cheap
ass bro like like chill out, with that or you
might laugh, at it Like if i'm, being honest like
from my, era time like when men were men and
there was no like complications, to it like you laugh
about stuff, like that like you fed, them up like,

(59:27):
hey man like the punks jump up to get, beat down,
you know like if you ain't gonna, get down then
you're gonna. Lay down and if you're gonna, lay down
then you're gonna. Stay down like it'd be all kinds
of trash talk that would be Surrounding what juju did, As,
teammates like but you might be in the back of
your mind like somebody gonna get, You, though juju like

(59:48):
you better be careful out there now you, sitting there
you doing stuff, like that somebody's going to. Get you you.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
KNOW who i guarantee he's got thoughts.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
On that.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
HE'S right i don't know if he's, posted Yet but
i'm gonna go Back Through antonio brown's timeline and, just,
see uh just see what he's got to say, about
IT because i think he had some some strong Words
For Jujus smith schuster back when they. Were teammates to
get he's still.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
DOING stuff i thought he's on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
The run, ab yeah, oh, no, no, no Yeah he's
i've seen a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
HE'S uh i haven't really seen anything from. HIM lately
i thought it was just because he was too busy eluding.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
The authorities, You Know antonio brown is like a great,
rock band, you know just play, the hits, you know
like at a, certain point like why write new stuff
and you can just make money on. The Hits so
Cracker the day is still, a thing. All right oh
and and and the others of, the day the others
of the day are still.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Things on his timeline as, Well too, so okay lots
of because he's got somebody, running it so it's not.
Really him he's just on. To go you ain't gonna
hear his voice. In it you're not going to see him.
In it you, know, what though you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Can kind of tell which ones. ARE his i don't
know what.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
It is you can kind of tell which, ones way
like the spelling is. And, all, yeah yeah some of that,
YE knew i knew that's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
What you was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Alluding to you're saying one is more coherent and more
educationally driven while the other one is more. Like lesser
of of of, THOSE.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Those i would just say one would one would excel
more in a spelling beat than. The, other, okay yeah
but you know one's better on the. Football field so
you know which is?

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
More important was better on the, Football field so the
the grammar is, BETTER now i mean the grammar is
more important now because neither one of those guys is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Playing ball i'll Bet You antonio brown could still go
for still go for one hundred yards in a game?

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Now, PROBABLY yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I think what's going to Get, lost yeah and what's
going to get lost in the Conversation About antonio brown
because of all the other antics is at one time
he was the, best player best wide receiver IN the
nfl and it. Wasn't close and what is he five
to nine? Five ten but.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Then he jumped out of a pool and put his
butt in a white.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Woman's, face yeah but you know, what though, you, know
hey you ever Been To? Sea world let me, come
on that, stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Happened happens all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
The time that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Happens, blackfish yeah. And white they'd be splashing on white
women all. The time tell me, about it and they
pay money to go get splashed by, the blackfish big
old blackfish even be. Ratting them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
That's, right yeah that's a. Good point you ever seen.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
A whale driver or a whale rider that's?

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Black women? Definitely, not no you? Have, it no, oh
yeah whales. Are particular they like. Whites racist by, the way,
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(01:03:24):
taste better. They're colder the food tastes better cause it's
got that hot spice, on it, you know That original
louisiana hot. Sauce spice. That's right nothing brings the heat
like a team having a good day on game day with.
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peppers kick that vinegar and salt That the louisiana flavor
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and everything, win, Nachos burgers jonas puts it on his.
Clam chowder you could put it on whatever you want
to make because it's gonna make. It better it. Doesn't

(01:04:08):
matter it just hits the. Right way it's like a
victory dance on your. Taste buds if you could Dig
what i'm saying and. Then listen if you didn't have
a great weekend because your team didn't, do well and,
YOU know i haven't been having great weekends because my
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