Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about the Bengals giving up 47 points to Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears, Ohio State QB Julian Sayin becoming the Heisman favorite, Pete Prisco joining the show, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
of Joe with Lamar Airings and Rady Win and Jonas
Knox on Box Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I look at the Bengals and I know, like you
look at what Joe Flacco is doing, and I think the.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Bengals are more of the story in this game.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
And obviously it's a good win for Chicago to come back,
and you know, considering the circumstances, but it feels like
it was a collapse by Cincinnati at least that's how
it felt there at the end. I mean, two guys
with a clear shot to take out Lovelin and they
can't do it. I also look at though the last

(00:39):
two weeks. I mean, how many points have they given up?
Now seventy something in two I mean they're dead last
and in almost every statistical category defensively.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
And look, I know Alcoholon just got there.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You know, Hendrickson has had his issues, and they probably
weren't high expectations for this defense anyway. But the thought
is that there's a chance you go get Flacco to
allow the season.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
To still be intact for Burrow when he's healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I don't care if I mean, do you think Joe
Burrow is gonna play much better than Joe Flacco did yesterday.
Flacco threw for four and seventy yards, Like, what do
you want him to do?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I mean that was ridiculous. By the way I fla
Is doing is ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
By the way, I apologize that they've given up eighty
six points the last two games.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
My apology short of them there, Well, it's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
We tend to exaggerate sometimes, but I just it's it's unbelievable, man.
I mean, this is not a This is not a
team that's going to do anything, whether Burrow's there or not.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
With the way the.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Offense is playing, but obviously the inability for the defense
to do anything anything, and you feel like it's starting
to actually fracture the locker room a bit.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I feel like it was a game that the Bears
should have had locked up like close, but no cigar
and all all would have been kind of normal. I
think it's the way the you know, the way everything

(02:13):
unfolded in those last few few minutes of the game
that kind of put that pressure or put that spotlight
on the Bengals. I really look I look at it
that way because if you think about it, they have
the game pretty much wrapped up, they hit the on side,

(02:33):
they're able to get it. They're able to get what
was it two touchdowns in fifteen seconds or something like that.
So everything is a feel good story from that moment
till the next moment, right, and then you have an
improbable moment take place. For the Chicago Bears, it went

(02:54):
in their direction. They were able to get get the win.
I think it just creates a bigger conversation because again,
there were a few defenses out there that if their
defense was better, how good would their team be? Like,
if they're just a better defensive unit, how good can

(03:17):
this team be? And that's one of the games where
you're how does that, how does that happen? How does
the guy get loose down the center of the field
and get into the end zone When now, granted, you know,
Caleb had a nice little run that you could see
it put them in position to get into phield goal range,

(03:39):
and maybe that stressed the defense out. Maybe they wanted
to be a little bit more aggressive because they did
give Caleb a little bit too much time in a
little bit too much space to be able to run.
And so maybe one more run and not maybe one
more run like he made early on. They're in field
goal range, and and that's you know, the situation is

(04:01):
a situation. And and so I don't know. I I
get the idea of being aggressive, sending the house to
pressure him. You saw it work in other games. You
saw work against Patrick Mahomes. You saw the pressure get
to some of the quarterbacks this weekend. Just on that
play didn't get to Caleb Williams. And you got to

(04:21):
give him a little bit of props therefore for completing
the past.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
So Brady mentioned that, you know, it could be, uh,
the locker room might might be a little sketchy at
this point. Jamar Chase afterwards was heard yelling, you know,
get an effing stop walking into the locker room. When
he would talk to reporters afterwards, he you know, basically said, listen,
I'm not going to say anything. I don't want defense

(04:45):
defensive players coming up to me to tell me what
I need to be doing, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Chase Brown, on the other hand, he took a different approach.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
We just got to play complimentary football. If we put
the ball in the end zone and go up a
point at the end, finish the game, like just ended.
Like that's it, Like that's that's like, that's what we
need to do. Just end the game, like make them,
make them get us the ball back, let us go
to twenty two victory, and let's end the game.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
That's how that's like, that's how I feel.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
So, uh, how's that gonna land if you're a defensive
player or was that a game where hey, we got
nothing to say?

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Just think that the respect factor is there. You you
gotta you gotta take it for at face value, like
you gotta finish the game. The fact that you guys
were able to have a successful on side kick and
then have an on or have have a offensive series
where it leads to you guys taking the lead at
that point in the game, your defense has to close

(05:42):
out the game. I don't think anyone should be offended
by him saying that. In fact, you should be happy
that he's bothered by an upset about it. I mean,
I was watching social media catches out partying and stuff
like that. I won't say no, no, no teams or
anything like that, but like you got social media joints
popping up of people out having a good time and

(06:05):
they just lost. They just lost, Like right, it doesn't matter.
I would rather see a guy be upset. I'd rather
see a guy be upset about them losing and have
a strong declaration of okay, like let's finish games. That's
captain obvious. So if you're if you're in the locker
room and you're a defensive guy and you're upset, you

(06:27):
just want to be upset, to be upset because you
can't go running after him and being like, don't be
talking about us, don't now, y'all gave up, gave up
a late touchdown that costed us the game. I mean,
that's just what it is. Finish the game.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, man, Look, there's gonna be frustration when seasons
are falling by the wayside, and that's really where the
Bengals are going. And in the past two weeks, I
think they feel like they've done enough offensively to get
the job done. I mean, we talked about how much
they've scored. It's hard to score sometimes over twenty in

(07:01):
this league, let alone over thirty, over forty, and they've
done it in back to back weeks and unfortunately been
in shootouts. But I think the worst part is it's
like they're shootouts versus the Jets, which.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
You know, that's a problem. All right, that's a frustrating.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Now, look, they're a team that's gonna have their moments,
but I guess their first moment had to come against
the Bengals defense. And then you look at this past
week and again the Bears have had their moments. But
I keep going back to that final play. It's not scheme.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
They brought three linemen and they brought up a guy
off the.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Edge, like you're playing coverage and you can't get a
tackle with either one of your safeties who are right
there to make a play on it. I'm that's just
more of a lack of execution. And so that's the
frustrating part is you know, I don't know who you
point to. I mean, the only thing in this game
that kind of flew into the radar because of those
final two minutes was the challenge by the Bengals that

(07:55):
ended up actually giving the Bears a touchdown. That was
one of the funnier moments of Like, I don't think
ever seen that where you had a team that was
I guess what, trying to make it a touchback Instead
it in a backfiring on them completely and turned around
being a touchdown for the Bears like that, And look,
you look at the end, like end of the game,
look at the difference, like, all right, probably would have

(08:16):
liked to have that challenge back.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
And then you look at their schedule after the buy,
and the Jets and the Bears were games they had
to have and should have had. And then you look
at their schedule after the buy and you're at Pittsburgh.
You've got the Patriots, the Ravens, the Bills, the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Again, it's over, dude, that's bad. That's a tough road.
Like if I'm Joe, if I'm Joe Burrow, I'm like,
you know what, you ain't coming back. I'm coming back. Hey,
you guys have it. We're good.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
And honestly, even when Trey Hendrickson's been in there and
he's been banged up, I don't. Jay Glazer was making
the point on Fox yesterday where he said that the
Bengals are at least open minded to trading Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
Now, I mean, why not listening. It's not doing anything.
I mean, again, the conversations have been I mean even
when Miles Garrett's name popped up as a potential guy
that you could possibly see them a team trying to
deal with that ginormous contract. It's like, man, if you're
getting all of this production from a generational talent, that

(09:21):
man had how many sacks and five sacks in the game. Yeah,
and they still lost. But it begs the question, and
I think we asked asked the question on this show.
I mean, when you look at what the decision was
for Micah Parsons and how that ended up playing out,

(09:43):
I mean, do you really need to feel like you
are forced to pay these high wages to any position
other than somebody who was impacting the scoreboard like a
quarterback or a receiver in today's game? And I think
that that now has to become that now has to

(10:03):
become a conversation. What is how much of a premium
do you place on the guys that can get to
the quarterback? Because it's not leading it. There's no correlation
to winning having that type of production from a defensive player.
Unfortunate because I'm a defender and I'm always want to
see defenders be compensated. But the reality of it here

(10:26):
is Jerry Jones created a different lane of thought as
it applies to do you do the blockbuster deal with
a defender? And what does that look like? Because it
doesn't necessarily lead to you winning games directly, at least
that it hasn't this year with some of the guys

(10:48):
we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Ye have a don't you think you'd feel a little
bit better about Dallas if they had Michael Parsons? Like you,
you feel a little bit better about I mean, their
offense has been really good, Dak's been really good.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
It just different the play making ability. The playmaking ability
is there, right if he's on that Dallas team, there's
he's going to make a difference. The playmaking ability is
on a higher level. But can I definitively say that
their record is different than what it is right now?

(11:21):
I can't definitively say that. I can't do that. I mean,
if a guy gets five sacks in a game and
they still lose the game, can I honestly say, Okay,
if Miles Garrett isn't in the game, you get five,
you got five less sacks. But do they are they
going to have a better chance of winning the game?

(11:42):
Like It's kind of like, I don't no no, they're
not going to have a better chance of winning the game.
But it didn't win them the game with the production,
So how am I supposed to look at it? Five
sacks was not good enough of a performance to win
the game, and that's what people are going to lean on, Like, okay,

(12:03):
like he could get as many sacks as he wants
and it still doesn't mean it's going to equate. Like,
if a quarterback gets five touchdown passes in the game,
that's going to be that's going to be a W. Right,
I mean, chances are if a quarterback throws five touchdown passes,
it's going to be a W. Five interceptions is going

(12:23):
to be an ale direct correlation. I mean, is that fair?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah? I mean yeah. I mean, look, the defense could
cost some of those, So that's where you're kind.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Of saying, right, okay, all right there, okay.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'm trying to find a list of and it's taken
me a minute, so my apologies, but I'm trying to
find a list of the caps spending for defense versus offense,
just because obviously on offense, you're spending your money largely
on your quarterback, wide receivers O line versus defense. To
see where those teams rank right now in the NFL.

(12:55):
So it may I may need into the break to
figure this out, kind of.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
I know the Steelers have the highest gi.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, they've They've spent a ton, and they have got
the results they're looking.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
For, all though a good win win yesterday, so.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's And the thing about Joe fla the way, Yeah,
the thing about Joe Flacco two is that he had
to get a shot in his shoulder right before the game,
and you could tell that that shot wore off right
at the hail Mary at the end, like you tell,
like that's so now we know how long those shots.

(13:32):
The Nectar from the Gods LeVar talks about how long
they last because it was right up until the hail Mary,
which he had nothing left in it. So to do
all that with a bump shoulder and to see it
spoiled because your defense can't get a stop or tackle
is kind of what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I've got the list, honestly, looking at it, it's kind
of a mixed bag. Like the number one team in
defensive spending under the cap of the Giants, which they've struggled.
They've got a rookie quarterback, so you can you could
spend obviously on your defense when you've got, you know,
a rookie quarterback on that deal, Indies number two. It's
like at Pittsburgh at number three, Minnesota number four, Green

(14:12):
Bay five, Denver, Houston, Las Vegas, the Chargers in Tampa
top ten. So you know, obviously Tampa's had a great
season this year. Denver the Cardiac kids, they've been they've
been pretty good. Indie has been great. Like it's it's
a mixed fact. Pittsburgh's leading the AFC North Minnesota with
a nice win yesterday, so it depends on how you
look at it. But like San France dead last by

(14:32):
the way, spending on their defense, Phillies thirty first, Oh wow,
the Rams are thirtieth, Baltimore, Miami, Dallas, New Orleans, Buffalo, Detroit.
So you do have some heavy hitters on the opposite
side of this who obviously have spent much more on
their offense, and they seem to be, you know, doing

(14:52):
pretty good too.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
So it's that is it miss leading based upon rookie
rookie production like young first on track production on like
a team like Philadelphia, I mean no, because.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
You have hurts under a longer term deal. You have
a J. Brown under a longer term deal, DeVante Smith
as well.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
They paid I have an offensive line too, That's got
what I'm saying, a lot of money spent.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
On the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Maybe maybe a bit maybe a bit for them, right
because they've they've kind of moved on from some of
the older veteran players. But the same thing with the Rams.
The Rams have a young defense right on first time.
San Fran moved on from some So that's largely gonna
dictate this. But you know, Buffalo's got you know, they're
twenty fifth and outside of Allen, they've kind of got,

(15:36):
you know, youth on both sides. But they've they've paid
some defensive guys.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
They're pretty good. They're better than what I thought. Yeah,
they showed to be. And now if they could consistently
be the team we saw on television last night, that's
that's the best team in the National Football League. Problem
with them to me is I don't feel like they're
consistent enough. They'll they'll let a game get away where

(16:02):
it's like it's a hey, it scratcher, like how did
they lose that game? Like I want to believe in
the Bills, but then they have a game where it's like,
man like, that's not I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
He's Here's what's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
If you took out Trey Hendrickson and his moneys that
are paid out for the Bengals, he's by far and
away the highest paid defensive player. The next closest guy's
BJ Hill at eight point six million. Trey Hendricks's got
a twenty five point one cap hit this year. If
you take out what he's getting paid, they go from
twelfth highest in defensive spending all the way down to

(16:36):
below the Saints, and they'd be a at I guess
twenty seventh to that came.

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Speaker 4 (17:26):
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Speaker 5 (17:32):
You can, oh, I gotta look it up.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
You can bip your way all the way to DraftKings
for the Heisman Trophy Odds and Julian Saying, the Ohio
State quarterback is now the favorite.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Plus that's on seventy five.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Fernando Mendoza was the leader for quite a while, it
seemed like, and then all of a sudden, Julian Saying
has popped up and he is the Heisman favorite as
Ohio State got a big win.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Over the weekend.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Oh, it's a bit is breaking into a car, breaking
into a car, so it's it's that's ridiculous. It's a smash.
It's a fast smash and grab.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
How's that going to happen on the highway? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
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a car break in, especially in San Francisco the Bay Area.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Can't wait super Bowl sixty.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
They's not going to run a car.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
It's a haircut in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
We don't want it to get bipped.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Getting bipped in Baltimore means getting getting a haircut. Engulfed.
In golf slang, bip is a whole means to pick
up your ball and quit playing the whole, often outside.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
To hear a lot of things. You bipped golf course,
bipped on the whole.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
And some hip hop contexts, bip or bipped can have
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a handgun. Oh there we go, having you know that
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pet name for someone. So it is so biped is
what we were thinking it is. It is there.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
You see why I jumped in.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah, no worries, Mark, No worries Mark. Yeah, and good
for you, cool park, continue on my son.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
H Jesus all right?

Speaker 4 (19:31):
So, uh, what was the expectation for Julian Saying coming
into the year, because this was kind of a late
announcement that he was going to be the starter, right because.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Not really, No, they had a quarterback competition and I
think they knew all along who it was going to be.
It was just a matter of, you know, not announcing
it too late because then you potentially lose the guy
as you're back up and you've got a freshman is
most likely backing up.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
So it wasn't that late.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
They just had a quarterback competition and kind of delayed
it to not announce before the Texas game for scheme
reasons whatever. He's been phenomenal though, Like this guy, he's
leading the completion percentage in the country his pastor efficiency.
I mean he had four touchdown passes, three and completions,
and I keep saying, like the thing that stands out
the most when you watch him is, you know, everything

(20:18):
is really accurate, like a catch and run ball underneath
intermediate and then down the field. I mean he had
multiple deep passes like right on the money. I mean
Carnell Tate touchdown pass. Jeremiah Smith hit another one to
Tate for a big game. Like it's when they do
go downfield, he's better than anyone that's not.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Close feeling downfield. I mean they went hard to go
downfield either. I mean their their players were behind the
defense the whole guy.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, and I think that's The problem is a lot
of people will say, like, well, he's throwing the Jeremiah
Smith Carna said. I was like, all right, someone's gonna
do it, but like someone's gonna be able to do
it too, to the point where outside of the one
ridiculous grab Smith had that got deflected in him had
a one hand kind of like behind his head catch.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know, It's it's like they didn't have to do anything.
They just had to run.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I mean literally, Jeremiah Smith was running the balls dropped
in his lap. So I know, I'm advocating for Julian saying,
but I feel like this has been a long time
coming because he's been playing at a really high level
the entire season and everyone's kind of just.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Like, ah, yeah, he should. He's got good wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's like, all right, well, Fernando Mendoza has two really
good guys as well. So Rat and Cooper are actually
statistically ahead of Cornell Tate and Jeremih Smith at least
they were going in this past week. That's like, we
don't say the thing the same thing about Fernando Mendoza.
We just sit there and go always you should be
the Heistan favors playing awesome this year. All right, Well,

(21:41):
Julian Sayin's playing even better.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
I think this quarterback class is losing its highly rated,
touted reputation that it had going into the season. And
I look at it from Beck like they're they're having
a slight fall off, to Arch, to the kid in

(22:06):
in South Carolina, to Drew Aller.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Sean McDonough of ESPN, he said that Arch is, in
so many words, maybe reigniting the conversation about the Heisman
k club Nick and.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
I just don't think. I don't think that this this
quarterback class is living up to the big ticket hype
that it had going into the season.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, that's what with a lot of teams. Though a
lot of teams haven't lived up to the hype.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
You know, I don't know how that all played out
that well.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
I did notice you did put you know, Aller in there.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
I did put him in there. I mean, he's like,
that's one of the most obvious honestly. Like as well,
the other.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Thing I'd say is is like with Arch, I don't
know that I include him as part of the class
because he's eligible, but he's not you know, he's he's not.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I don't want.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I don't know if he's gonna come out or not.
But too, he's not like exhausted his eligibility. You know,
we're guys like aler have or or some of the
other guys you mentioned. Some of those guys don't even
have any left, so they've they've got to come out.
But to your point, it has been really disappointing, and
I think they're all The other thing you have to
acknowledge is, you know, for beck is as good as
he's looked at times, because there is some natural talent ability. Dude,

(23:17):
it's hard to move teams, move programs, change an offense,
try to get you know, on the same page with
guys throughout the course of a season, and especially as
good as the scheme has gone with some of these defenses,
you know, there are teams who aren't you know, you
know as far as the win loss record wise, you know,
you look at me and say, well, they're noted any good.
It's like no, dude, Like I was watching back to

(23:39):
tape from Notre Dame BC, go look at the different
defensive schemes that they presented Notre Dame to try to
limit Jeremiah Love's impact. Or try to confuse their freshman
quarterback and CJ. Carr go look at what Maryland does.
They were talking about them the other week, like they've
got some interesting like Botz schemes and coverage schemes and
things they do to disguise and just try to fool

(23:59):
guys like I don't care, you know, at what level
you're playing quarterback out right now. It's it's it can
be tough sledding at times because of how these defenses
are trying to attack you and confuse you. And I
think that the counter to all of that is if
you have a few guys who scare the crap out
of the defense, like a Jeremiah Smith, like a Carnell Tait,

(24:20):
at least they should, it can limit somewhat of what
they can do because you've got to put at least one,
if not you know, two, guys potentially on him. And
so that takes away from some of the variety that
you're going to see in those defenses. But if they're
not scared of someone man like, it's it's becoming kind
of similar to the NFL, as some of the disguise
and things that defenses are doing.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
You got a pressure guys man, that's you give too
much time. You try to play these little creative type
of Oh, we're acting like we're coming, but we're only
bringing for and this, that and the other.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
Like.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
You can't give quarterbacks with that type of talent on
their edges time. If you're going to go down, go
down in a blaze of glory. Make him throw that
ball up quick. Make those receivers have to go earn
their money quick fast, in a hurry. Do not give
them the amount of Like watching that Ohio State game,

(25:14):
how do you give a quarterback coverage? Time you're in coverage,
you're sacrificing the aggressiveness of trying to move the quarterback around,
get the quarterback flustered, have the quarterback paying attention to
what's going on in its front of his face and

(25:34):
on the side of them and maybe behind him, versus
what's going on down the field. You can't allow a
guy to just stand back there, feel no pressure and
then be able to go through all their progressions. It
just we're talking about defensive schemes out there and creative
defense schemes. One scheme that has fallen flat on its

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face is the defensive scheme that's in state college. I'll
say that it's not good at all. Damn it's not.
I mean it has It has probably been the worst
falloff drop off. And we've had a lot of defensive
coordinators come through that door a lot, and they've come
and gone from Brent Pride to you know, Al Golden

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was there at one point in time. You know, we
had Manny Diaz and Tim Allen being the latest, I mean,
and all of men came in and did well as defenses.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Can I can I say this in defense though, of
your defense. That's a hard one. It's not that bad
like you guys are.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
The last nine seasons have averaged giving up around like
nineteen twenty points per game. Like I literally we did
all a lot of research going into the game, and
so right now, how many points.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
Do you think you're averaging per game? It's not it
hasn't been a lot of points. It hasn't been so
I don't I'm not sure what the average would be.
It's tweets twenty two, okay, because dayon, I mean, that
was the biggest defeat we just took was against Ohio State.
It's not like we're getting blown out by anybody.

Speaker 9 (27:08):
No, no, no, And that's what I'm saying is lad
the defense isn't thriving though, well, but I would say
the offense to me is what has hurt you because
it's just like there's I mean, the offense had and
then this past.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Week's game one yard, like into the fourth quarter, one
yard of total offense. That's correct, you had sixty. You
had sixty for the entire half at the end of
the game. I mean, that's just I don't care how
you cut it. And I understand your frustration with the
defense because there definitely has been a step back, But
offensively it has to be frustrating because they cannot figure
out how to close out games and really do anything

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at this point, which it's tough, but that's that's There's
a number of teams are doing that. Like ask Miami
fans how they're feeling today.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, it was, I mean it looked like it was promising.
We were able to get the edges early on, we
were able to run a little bit. But it's just
this weird, this weird deal with passing, like passing. First
of all, passing has been very difficult for Penn State.

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The secondly, what are you doing these long like these
very long developing plays, like we're watching Ohio State due
Ohio State's doing long developing plays. You know the difference
between what Ohio State was doing and what Penn State
was doing. Ohio State was blocking, and they were blocking

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the amount of guys that were coming and there was
no real pressure. You had dudes looking like all everything
on the defensive side coming from from the edges, coming
from the inside, and they were pressuring our quarterback and
what was it? What's our quarterbacks?

Speaker 8 (28:45):
Now?

Speaker 5 (28:45):
I forget his name, grunking crunken Meyer. He didn't have
the speed. He don't have the speed to be getting pressured.
He does not have the movement and the mobility. So
why are you not running quicker developing plays in a
game as big as that one, with as good as

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athletes as there are on that Ohio State defense? It
just I don't know. It didn't add up to me, man,
But whatever. That's just my take on.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Did they get better when they fired James Franklin?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Well, because I just you look at I'm looking at
it going. I mean, what was that supposed to fix
things this year? Was that supposed to He's he's saying
they shouldn't have fired him.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Maybe wait till the end of the season.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, So that was like, should they have
fired him? No, they shouldn't have fired No.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
I just like, but this is one of those I mean,
because the fan base is calling for it. No, I
don't think it want to I don't think it was
make a move because the fan base was calling for it.
I think they made the move based off of Again,
we talked about it with Mike McDaniel. I think you
made the move because you want to get into the

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market first. You want to put your hat in arena first.
And I think that it had run its course, the
idea of what you know, they were getting from from Franklin.
It kind of ran its course based off of how
management felt about the locker room and how he you know,

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how James Franklin felt about it.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
The team that is and his chance is a winning.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Dylan Raola, the other quarterback of note, one of the
Penn State candidates. Matt Rule is going to have to
go the rest of the year without Dylan Rayola with
the broken leg. He's done for the season.

Speaker 8 (30:34):
So.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Is he going to be I know that there was
obviously a lot of hype and him getting there, But
is he a guy that next year you look at
and go, all right, this is this is kind of
a monster prove it year for him, I think his
third year and maybe a potential to be a first
round pick.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, there's no doubt about it. I mean I thought
he actually was trending too in the right direction this season.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
They were one of the more.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Prolific teams in college football, And I mean you look
at that game, like, I kind of wonder how SC
fans are feeling only because he goes out of that game.
Nebraska's up fourteen to six, and they even missed a
fuel goal after that point, and it just felt like,
even though the tief came in and did a decent job,
it felt like if Riola would have been able to

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stay healthy. I don't know that SC wins that game.
And this is a team and fan base that I
think they're wavering on what their head coaches. So I
know there's still a lot for SC to play out
there that could be that final Big Ten team that
gets in. They keep their Big Ten hopes alive, but
they need a lot to happen to help them but
even the college football playoff hopes alive. They got to

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go to you know, Otsen and play organ coming up.
But I kind of look at that from the other
side of that conversation too, and go, on paper it
looks like a good win for SC In reality, it's
like kind of change the outcome of that game. But yeah,
ronaland Will, I mean, we got time to talk about that.
I think in general this weekend, what was interesting about
it to me was it reminded me of the good

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old days. And I say that because we were incapable
of watching some of the games because of this YouTube
TV Disney dispute, which you know is now running into
at least to the best of my knowledge, tonight's Monday
Night Football, which is a big deal. You know, there's
ten million subscribers for YouTube TV, so there's a lot
of people who if you watched you know, YouTube TV

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on Saturday, you noticed like you were not able to
watch a variety of games you normally do, especially in
their multiview, which is a great option and part of
their package, in part because of Disney, who obviously wants
YouTube to pay more for the rights to their content,
and YouTube is kind of fighting back against it because
they don't want to have to continue to keep raising
prices on their customers. So it's a battle and we'll

(32:49):
see whenever they come to a conclusion. But like tonight,
to me is one of those deadlines where you're like, man,
if I'm the NFL, I don't know that I really want,
you know, ten million people not able to view it
if that's how they view live television or that's how
they're going about it, and it's the Cowboys, Yeah, big brand.
So so I do wonder if, like Roger Goodell's given

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someone a caller, Troy Vince said hey, man, let's let's
let's figure this out. Let's come to the negotiation table.
But it did remind me of like I mean, back
when you and I play var. One of the reasons
why I went to Notre Dame and my final three
schools where Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, was because it
was in close proximity to my parents. You know, games
weren't on TV that much, so the fact that Notre

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Dame was on TV, and knowing that I had a
little sister who was going to play college soccer, and
I had a an older sister who was going school square,
I was like, well, if my parents can't make it,
I want to make sure they can at least watch
the game somehow. You know, now viewing is so prevalent
that you kind you kind of take it for granted, man,
And honestly, like I think even the biases around some

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of those bigger programs, like I'll bluntly say it, like
Notre Dame being on TV allowed it to have a
huge advantage over only other schools from a recruiting standpoint
way back when, because like there's fans now that grew
up they're like, yeah, that's all my dad raised now,
because that's all his dad raised him on, and that's all.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
They were able to watch.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
If you're in New York or you're in some of
these other you know places where like they they're Catholic
and they love Notre Dame football, right, And that's and
that's the case for like a lot of those big programs,
big games, like they're the only ones on And so
now you see, like we talked about the upsets that
occur this week, you see that and you just go, well,
there's a lot more parity in college football.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
But it's hard for you to like.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Digest that because you know, we kind of come from
an era where the big bad blue buds come around
you used to expect them to win.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
That. That's this is not the day and age of
college football we're in anymore.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
It's similar. Uh, people wonder why the Cubs of a
national brand, It's because WGN, like you could watch it
all over the country, and the Braves had TVs and yeah,
like Notre Dame, I always knew a Notre Dame fan
growing up because it was on Channel four out here.
It was always on NBC every single week. So, uh,
it was like a little bit of throwback weekend. And

(35:02):
if it doesn't, you know, go through before tonight's game,
then maybe Steven A. Smith and Scott Van Pelt are
going to campaign on social media to try and get
you to go click a link to view your displeasure
with YouTube TV for whatever their their issue is with
the ESPN.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
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Speaker 4 (35:26):
He's our smooth operator. Some would call him our resident
red ass here on the show. He is the one
and only Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports,
CBS Sports HQ analysts. Get him on X if you
want that smoke at Prisco, CBS Pete, good morning.

Speaker 8 (35:42):
What's up guys? How are you?

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Good morning?

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Pete?

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Good Pete. The Bengals defense have at it.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
Throw up on your shoes. That's about what it is.
Let me discuss. You know what's amazing about it? Too?
You change coordinators, it gets worse. I mean, what's I
tell you? That tells you if the players aren't very good
and the effort isn't great, they miss so many tackles
it's unbelievable and clearly okay, even if they tackle Lovelin

(36:12):
in that situation, they probably make the field goal beat
them anyways, But they're they're awful. That's by the way.
That's almost eleven hundred yards in the last two weeks
to the Jets and the Bears. I mean, that's just
terrible defense.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Geez, Pete.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
When you look at what the Colts are doing defensively,
maybe this past week not a great example of that,
but on the season as a whole, do you think
they're wishing they had lou Anarumo back.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
Brady. I don't think it. No matter who they are,
they could have you know, Bill Belichick Rex Ryan combination
in their prime and they're still not going to stop anybody.
It's players, I mean, it's effort and players. And I
mean you look at all the assets that they've used
on that defensive side of the ball too. By the way,
you know, I'm trying about draft picks the whole second.
A lot of those guys in the secondary they drafted,

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and they drafted them with the idea they're going to
be become good, solid players, and they haven't. I mean,
Gino Stone shouldn't be on the field. I mean, he's
not a very good player. And and you know they
battle it was drafted to be a good player. And
here they are, two guys colliding at each other and
letting the guy go down the field for the game
when he cuts down just it just bothers me. And
I think, you know, everybody's all over Chase Brown for

(37:20):
kind of calling them out. But I mean, if you're
an offensive player on that team, you have to be frustrated,
There's no question about it.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
What was your takeaway from that that Chiefs Bills game.

Speaker 8 (37:33):
I think Buffalo's defense is going to be better as
the season moves along. I think, you know, getting Hairston
back is enormous for them because it means you get
your Debus White technically off the field, and that's big
because he can't run. Harston can run. I think that's
important for them when they play teams that can stretch
the field. I think getting Bosa showed up in that game,
that's why you go get them. I hope, like heck,

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he's ready to do that in the postseason. I still
think they need to get guys back. I mean, there's
still a lot of guys injured on that depensive side
of the ball, but that was an impressive showing and
they limited the big play. In years past, the big
play has hurt them, and I think that was the
most important thing that came out of that game.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL columnist for CBS Sports. You can get him on
x at Prisco CBS. By the way, Pete, I just
didn't want to mention this on that Bengals game.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
You were right. I think Brady and.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
LeVar O, you an apology because you told everybody that
Colston Lovelin was the better pick over Tyler Warren and
it played out true.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
So well, I mean they're going to end up They're
going to end up right now, it's Tyler Warren, but
it's gonna end up being really close. I mean, they're
going to be both really good players. Anybody who gave
up on Colston Loveland was way off base. Remember he
was coming off an injury last year. And so I
think Loveland's going to be a big time player in
the passing game, and Warren might end up being the

(38:50):
better all round player, but I think more big Lovely
might end up giving you more big plays in the
passing game.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Though, Wouldn't the better overall player the guy who gives
you more in the passing game.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
Well, he's probably a better blocker, don't you think.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Well, yeah, he seems to be pretty darn good at
everything else.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I mean, I'm just saying, like, if I said, hey,
he's a better overall player, wouldn't you be like, Okay.

Speaker 8 (39:13):
We gotta take we gotta take LeVar out of the equation.
Liebacker or anybody else is gonna be the greatest thing
in the world. Even though it's programs and right now, Dawn,
I mean, you're gonna go tell me qual it. You know,
you gotta look that one up.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Mm hmm. I mean you would like you would like
Kyle Brady. You know you're a Cayle Brady fans. That's
a Jaguar.

Speaker 8 (39:42):
You know what? I used to say that Kyle Brady
had hosts for hands and he didn't like that.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Well, that's not very nice, Pete.

Speaker 8 (39:49):
Kyle Brady, I'll be honest with you, Kyle Brady might
be one of the five nicest people that have And
a mule is a run blocker. I mean, I mean
he was just a great blocker. He just wasn't a
great sudden task catcher. And you don't draft great blockers
who aren't sudden pass catchers.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Where the Jets drafted, I'm pretty high, uh, Pete, I
want to ask you about tonight's Monday night football game,
Jacoby for seconds to start again?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Is this to you, like truly or specifically injury related
for Caler Murray? Or is there a sense that maybe
the Cardinals like Prissette starting it gives him a better chance.

Speaker 8 (40:26):
Is it a soft benching? Is that what you're asking me,
I mean, because that's what it sounds like, doesn't it.
It looks like it. But in any way shape or
for him, is Jacoby Brissett better than Kyler Murray?

Speaker 5 (40:37):
No?

Speaker 8 (40:38):
No, of course not, he's not. But is Kyler Murray
worth all that money that they're paying him to be
just a little bit better than Jacoby Brissett. I think
that's the question, isn't it? Is Kyler Murray that much
better than Jacoby Brissett?

Speaker 5 (40:53):
I don't have that answer.

Speaker 8 (40:55):
What would you?

Speaker 7 (40:56):
I mean, what would you guys say?

Speaker 3 (40:59):
He's pretty dynamic when he takes off and runs, man?

Speaker 8 (41:04):
But is he that much better?

Speaker 5 (41:08):
I'd say that much better?

Speaker 8 (41:11):
He's better, There's no doubt he's better. But he's he's
that much better, and he's he worth paying him that
franchise money to be your just a little bit that
much better than than Jacoby Weresett. And he answered that
question is probably no, right now, it's hard.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Probably no.

Speaker 8 (41:27):
Right So? Probably so if you play him, what what
do you if you're not playing him he's healthy, what
are you sending that? What message is that that he's
not going to be our long term answer? And that's
the answer. That's that's the that's what they're saying with
this fall benching. If he is healthy. If he is healthy,
by the way, and you or him when you say
I'm healthy, why the hell aren't I playing?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Well, haven't you not been a caller Murray fan for
a long time?

Speaker 8 (41:53):
Though, No, I'm I mean no, I like my quarterbacks
to stand in the pocket make throws. I don't. I
don't want my quarterback running around all the time. So no, Well, you've.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Also you've made you taken shots some of us height too,
from just our past working together.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
Is that her? Pete? Well, yeah, when he when he played,
when he played Bryce young and they beat him. This year,
they gave out a little tiny trophy for the winner.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Pete said, he said, he said that when he sits
on the curb his feet dangling.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Pete, that's rude.

Speaker 8 (42:29):
Well, I can say this though, I'm tiny, so I
can say it. I mean I can, By the way,
I'd be looking up to both of them in case
anybody's wondering. And as I get older, I'll probably look
it up for you further because I shrink.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
So so, Pete, let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (42:41):
Then you mentioned the Kyler Murray criticism, what do we
do with your guy, Trevor Lawrence? Because at some point
they are who they are, aren't they? And it just
feels like this has gone on quite a while and
we've just not seen the next step from him. Out
out of a second half of a playoff game against

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the Chargers.

Speaker 8 (43:03):
There's there is concern. I'm not going to sit here
and deny it, and and you definitely major concern, but
you're not basing out on yesterday. I mean one made
one band play and then he played pretty done good
the rest of the game, so I and granted it
was against the Raiders, but you know, the stupid the
stupidity of some of his plays are amazing to me.
And not getting to play in and being in one

(43:26):
of those situations where you're the play clock's always running
down and he's looking around, he has to call time out.
It seems to be no feel at times for him.
But you know, look is he like I always say,
he's not great, He's not awful. He just is And
for that money, he needs to be better than just
his and they know it, and they got to get

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him going, There's no question about it. The problem is
Hunter's hurt Thomas is hurt now and Brenton Strange is hurt.
So your three top weapons aren't there at the end
of that game when they went down and got the game.
When he touched down, he's throwing Austin Trammell, Tim Jones
and Parker Washington. That's who he throw it. And Johnny
Washington is a good ball player's ball player, but he

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should be a number three. He should be a number
three receiver. I don't know a one receiver.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I mean he's a pretty good receiver.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
I saw good streaming at me Pete Prisco. He's a
really good ball player, that's all.

Speaker 8 (44:22):
He's a good ball player.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
Yeah, that I was going to say, people, do you
have any coaches right now that are high on your
list for hot seat contenders? Like who who you have
on there? Like if they don't.

Speaker 8 (44:35):
Well McDaniel, McDaniel's seed is like a flame thrower underneath it,
you should be. But they're gonna let him coach out
the season.

Speaker 5 (44:43):
I think, do you think he makes the season? I
don't think he makes it through the end of the year.
I think I think it gets so bad they just
gotta let him go.

Speaker 8 (44:53):
And but what's that solved though, That's why I always.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
I would say it solves maybe morale. Maybe you give
the team an opportunity to have a morale boost by
having a different person, a different voice, you know, just
removing maybe what they have going on with him. I
don't really know what it solves, but I mean, obviously
it does happen.

Speaker 8 (45:15):
If it gets to the point where like you're having
these like forty five to seven blowouts or something, then okay,
I'll give you that. But if they're competitive in games,
I don't think they fire them. I think Zach Taylor's
seat's probably a little hot. I would think that you
get the questionnaire, is you get the pass because your
quarterback got hurt? And the answer to that question is
probably no. Considering Joe Flacco two for four to seventy yesterday,

(45:38):
they still won and he changed coordinators, and ultimately you
keep changing coaches and it doesn't work. That falls at
the foot of you, and so I think he's on
the hot seat. I think Gable might be back on it.
I wouldn't make that change in the large part because
the quarterback situation needs to have some continuity. But I
could understand where he would be on it. I think

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those are the guys you have to look at right.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Now, Pete.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Have you ever seen a coach challenge a call and
it completely gets flipped and reversed on them and they
end up loosing out on a touchdown?

Speaker 8 (46:09):
It's amazing. I mean that was I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
I've ever seen that in the NFL.

Speaker 8 (46:13):
Yeah, I mean it was amazing. By the way, back
to coaches, who who firing coaches during the season. How's
that worked out for the Titans? They've kind of been rejuvenated,
haven't they.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
They look real good, Pete Prisco, They look real, real
good at being bad, real good.

Speaker 8 (46:32):
Well they were. They were crappy before they fired them,
they fire them, and they're crappy after they fire them.
So I mean, it's just it doesn't do anything. It
just doesn't. So sometimes unless you want to get ahead
of the process a little bit. But I don't know
how that helps. I just think it doesn't really change anything.
And if Miami Dolphins fired Mike mccandiel, what are they
gonna put in Anthony Weaver? I mean, what are they

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gonna put in there?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Who are you gonna make the coach Ericusville.

Speaker 8 (46:58):
What what's he's done it before? And have that work
out when he was it doesn't work, I Pete Prisco,
let him play it out.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
UH will throw Pete Prisco in there, and Pete, it's
time for it before we let you go.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
It's time for our favorite.

Speaker 8 (47:14):
Second who said they want me in there because you
know what I bring a little toughness. I stop the
damn music during practice and stop awarding guys. Yeah, Jersey Orange,
takeing Orange jerseys if they practice hard, and then they
can pick the music the next day. You'll have that going. No,
I have eleven padded practices and on all eleven and

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them you're gonna hit people. That's what you're gonna.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
You're gonna break the rules and you're gonna get fined
and fired.

Speaker 8 (47:40):
No, I'm not I'm gonna I'm not gonna get I'm
not gonna break the rules. But when I'm padded practice,
you're gonna hit. Because I think the hitting and attack
would need to happen. Is this league has gotten so
soft when it comes to that, and I think you
see it on.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Sunday's coming after you, Pete, Pete, It's time for our
favorite portion of the interview, which bet did you lose?

Speaker 3 (47:58):
But we're on the right side of yesterday.

Speaker 8 (48:00):
I had a bunch of them yesterday. Okay, I had
the Bengals one of my picks. These are my picks
and I and by the way, my picks horrible.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
You can't say the Bengals they had no business being
in that thing.

Speaker 8 (48:11):
Well, at the end of the game, you're getting two
and a half, you think you're gonna win the game
on a.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Field goal and the two touchdowns.

Speaker 8 (48:17):
Okay, So then then the Bengals. Then there was what
was the other one? There was? There were two more?
Oh where it was late? Oh, Jacksonville right up the
touchdown late okay they were covering yea, so great that no,
I was. I had the Falcons in that one, so
that was a good miss extra point. And then who's

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the other one I had? Just there were three of
them that when you look at them and you go, okay,
that's those three slip and you're actually doing okay, So yeah,
so I'll take those.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
I'm trying to think what the other one would have been,
h steal it. No, Broncos Texans there.

Speaker 8 (48:55):
It is Broncos Texans.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
That was that should have been a win or two
it should have been apparently wasn't. Well.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
I had a couple of weeks straight where I had
they should have been winners, Pete, So don't worry about it.

Speaker 8 (49:07):
By the way, as bad as I was this week,
Ward has is that my uh the guy I compete against,
like you used to compete against Brady. Yeah, I had
the worst week and I was terrible.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
Brady's doing pretty well.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
Man.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
I hate to say it, like at.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Least you know because I used to whoop that ass
every time we'd.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Go against you did not you.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Act like it was even close. We had to change
the rules for you just to make it entertaining.

Speaker 8 (49:32):
It was always close, and it was not always close.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It was not.

Speaker 8 (49:36):
It was always close.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
And there were a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
There were a couple of years where I want, buddy,
you never.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Won one buddy, never want buddy, never won by hey,
hey buddy, never.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
One, Hey pal, you didn't win. Work to a bunch of.

Speaker 8 (49:55):
Forget about it, forget about it. I won, but he
has he.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Can't PiZZ It's pizza type that is like I'm gonna
take my ball and go home because I can't win.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
That's how Pete.

Speaker 8 (50:06):
Is no, I'm not. I'm just like you. Never could
say you were wrong ever.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
I was.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Okay, I'll put it this way, I was. I was
wrong about a number of games. But there was no
worse beat than the one I talked about earlier. This
earlier today, UVA getting a pick six with twenty five
seconds left to cover versus Cow. That was a flip
in ald timer like from midfield. Usually the guy's catch.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Days go down, runs it all the way back.

Speaker 8 (50:32):
That was a bad Why did he run it back?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Have you no idea you got money on it? Maybe
maybe he's got money on it.

Speaker 8 (50:38):
Did you have cause this Cow one of your picks.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
I had col plus five and a half. I thought
it'd be close. I thought you Va might win, but
I thought it be close.

Speaker 8 (50:45):
Oh wow, what about somebody I was reading where somebody
said that the Florida game, the kid went down at
the one yard lift.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Yeah got her stuff, And yeah he should have if
he would have run in and they would have covered.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
But he made the smart play.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
You know.

Speaker 8 (51:00):
You make a smart play.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Pete always appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
You can get him on AX again at Prisco CBS
Senior NFL Calumnist for a CBS Sports, CBS.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
You have a good day. Priscoe will do to me
next week.

Speaker 8 (51:12):
I got one quick question, Why the hell is Prienn
State a marquee game again this week? What the hell?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
It was just just pre pre uh man, the rate lovers.
There's haters, but people watch.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Yeah, pre determined, Pete. We're up against it, but we
will do it again next week.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
You're a hater period.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Kick you in your chest when I see you again talking, Yeah,
I'm gonna kick you in the chest.