November 12, 2025 • 51 mins
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and I today, Brady, It's just us because well what
happened LeVar. For some reason, that man that travel back
from state college just a real pain in the ass.
You know, the travel there is a pain. Could you
lose three hours and it takes four days to get
there without the time change the travel back. For some reason,
he always seems to hit a snag.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Let me say something.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It is an advertisement to not take that head coaching job.
I'm trying to explain to him, like, you all got
to do something about the airport situation there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It literally takes away from the entire.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Experience and people can get upset who are Penn State fans.
But you know it, I know it. It's hard to
drive to, it's hard to fly into. There's not many options.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
You need a.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Bigger airport, I'm sorry, like you do. And so you're
the biggest school, I would say in the state. I
think it's bigger in pitt Go lobby the state, like, go,
go figure out a way of getting more funds to
get a bigger airport, to get more flights or better
flights in there.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It is awful to get in and out of it.
By the way, it's one of.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
The only bad things about Penn State though it's really
just the airport situation.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But it does feel like.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Every single time LaVar Heard goes there, he is embarking
on the organ trail and it just takes some days
to be able to get back.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, so that's yeah, that's why he's not here. So
we're assuming he'll be back by tomorrow. We're assuming that's
going to happen and he will be here tomorrow, but nonetheless,
there'll be no LeVar, so no sticks here. It'll be
Brady Quinn and I had taken you all.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
The way up.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
During this three hour journey, college football playoff rankings came
out Volume two Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A, and m
Alabama Georgia. Top five stays the same. What jumped out
to you. I was doing a little bit of a
deep dive trying to figure out what the hell is
going on?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
To tell what was the deep dive?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The ACC is confusing.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The hell out of it. It's crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't understand, like there's I've seen like some potential
that maybe nobody gets in. I've s like just people
are thrown out all sorts of scenarios trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's highly unlikely.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
And so just so people understand where the ACC is at,
there's five teams right now that are in position to
potentially play for the conference championship.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And that's significant for this reason.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Duke, who sits with four losses, only has one loss
in conference play, so they can play spoiler. They can
end up being a team that ultimately with little help,
ends up winning out and then plays in the conference
championship wins it wins the ACC. And the thought is
that how it's stated in the College Football Playoff is
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that the five highest rank conference champions will get in,
and everyone seems to think that or assume that it
will be the conference champions of the Power for and
then the highest ranked group of six, although the AAC
is another league that's highly competitive, and in particular, if
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it's Tulane, who I believe only has one loss in
conference play. If Tulane happens to win out and win
the AAC, well they beat Duke head to head, the
College Football Playoff Committee, based on their own criteria, would
have to allow to Lane to get in over Duke,
given that they have a better record and they actually
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beat him head to head and they are a conference champ.
And then the wild cards James Madison. James Madison could
go twelve to one, they could win the Sun Belt
and that would be the other team that you could
potentially have higher ranked than Duke at that point, just
because Duke has four losses and you know, again, they'd
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be winning the ACC, but they wouldn't have the head
to head tie break over Tulane, and jam you obviously
has a better record overall, So there's the thought that
that could happen. I haven't looked at enough of the models.
I don't think it's going to happen. I think Duke
would be the fifth highest ranked team in that regard,
but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And by the way, like Duke would have probably a
couple more.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Quality wins in the eyes of the committee than James Madison.
But the problem is, you know, getting the overall record,
James Madison would have a twelve to one record, which
we be pretty good. And they are a good football team,
by the way, like Indiana's essentially playing with a lot
of James Madison players that kurtin Signetty brought with him
to Indiana these past couple of years, and they're most
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likely to get drafted in the NFL. So for people
who don't know about James Madison, they got a good
football team and they're probably gonna win the Sun Belt.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, it's wild man, and just to think that whatever
they roll out this week, things are going to change
next week and we just continue on until we get
the final team. What was I think what's what's most
interesting is people are still bitching about the whole Notre
Dame where they're ranked and Miami and Miami did move
up a few spots after the win this week.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
But look, I get it, like there is the element
of head to head play. Miami beat Notre Dame and
there is something to be said for that. So I
do wonder when that comes into play in the final
rankings if Miami wins out. Now, Miami is a team
that's lost twice in conference play. I didn't them as
one of those teams. It's basically like everyone else who's
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who's in contention for the ACC besides Miami.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But again, like Miami's ranked higher than Georgia Tech.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Who's got a better chance of eight and one of
playing for the ACC championship.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
UVa's A and two.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
They've only lost once in conference play, though they're part
of that conversation. So there's a lot of teams that
are in the as you know, Louisville for example, it
is not one of those teams, but it will probably
be Georgia Tech and UVA. By the way, But the
arguments like this whole and I get it, but you
also have to look at what Miami has done the
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last three weeks. I mean, got to win this past week,
but you know, they lost two of the last three
before that or whatever it was, not of names one
seven in a row, and they're beating the crap out
of teams. You know, they just beat at what seven
to one Navy team that was a part of that
conversation AAC. AAC has a lot of teams playing for it,
So I'm not sure how the committee views And I'd
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ask you, like, how do you view at the end
of the season, a team that's one, let's say Notre
Dame wins out of the win ten in a row.
How do you view that amongst the team that's maybe lost,
you know, twice in the past six games.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I would take the team that's going that's hot at
the current moment as opposed to the team that won
a game back in September. I mean, it's look in
the NFL, the Raiders beat the Patriots in Week one.
Things change and I just look at it, and I say,
for whoever's complaining, you can't just win one game early
on and think that's just going to carry the weight
of your entire season when you've come up short in
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other spots throughout the course of the year and the
other team goes on a heater. That's the part, and
I understand why people want to hold on to that,
but it sort of falls apart when you factor in
there's been two months of football since. You can't just
bank on that one win and say, well, that should
put us ahead of them. What happened after that? What
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did you do after that? And whatever they want to
complain about the schedule and whatnot. That's the part where
that's the advantage to scheduling those games early on, because
you have time to make up for it if you
do fall apart, much like what happened with Northern Illinois.
As it turned out at the end of the year,
Miami is one of the top two teams in the
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country and we look back on that Northern Illinois game
and go, well, yeah, what happened there, Or we can
look at what happened every other week after that up
until the College Football champion like that. That's the part
that I think people you're just holding on to one
win and not focusing on the other opportunities to win
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games throughout the stretch, which you came up short in.
That's how I feel about it. I do wonder how
last year's results.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
In the playoff played a role in that.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
You know, Ohio State was a team that made it
in but made it as an at large bid and
obviously got on a run and ended up. And then,
by the way, that was like trusting your eyes and
trusting the eye test. Because Ohiosate was just a talented team.
We knew that, but they never really played up to
it until they got into the College Football Playoff. You know,
Notre Dame was a team who ripped off, you know,
well to ten eleven whatever it was after the Illinois game,
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and you know, they were one of those hot teams
that got in similar to Ohio State and then kind
of went on the run, even though they finished this
season like that. And I wonder if they were looking
at Notre Dame in a similar fashion, saying, hey, same
head coach, the team actually looks like it's got a
more balanced offense.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Their defense has improved mightily.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Maybe that's a team that we say, all right, we're
putting them in position because they don't play a conference
championship game that if they do went out like we
want them in there. We think they're one of the
top twelve best. And that's what you've tasked the committee
with doing. For people to get upset about. It's like
the reality is they just want to try to put
the best twelve teams in there, and going back and
looking at last year, I'm sorry, SMU, they didn't feel
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like that was a really great performance. You know, they
felt like they got in based on the resume.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
In the ACC.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
But the ACC you know, maybe doesn't stack up quite
as well as some of the others. And there's some
other teams too that they're probably looking at saying, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Maybe we don't redo this again. That's why they've redone.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
How they're doing the buys where they're just gonna say, hey,
the top four teams that we think are the best
for they're gonna get the buys this year. We're not
doing this whole like the you know, four highest rank
conference champions. The other thing I point out is, and
it's kind of interesting to me, Oregon Oregan's an eight
and one football team. They've got a good, gutsy win
on the road, bad weather in Iowa City, but Iowa
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was probably their best I shouldn't say probably Iowa is
their best win, an eighteen to six win over Iowa.
Outside of that, like that Penn State win doesn't look
the same. I know, Happy Valley's a tough place to play.
That was before James Frank was fired. That was, you know,
you know, back when Drew Aller was there as a quarterback.
But I mean, I don't know, Like I'm kind of
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looking at Oregon. I think they look like they're one
of those talented teams, but for as high as their ranked,
I don't really get it. I mean, the meat of
their schedule kind of comes at the end versus SC
in a couple of weeks and then Washington.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But I like, I have more of a griper.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I would have more of a gripe if I was
a you know, college football fan and look at these
rankings saying, why the heck is organ rank so high?
I mean, I realized they have one loss, but like,
who have they really beaten? And I'm not advocating, by
the way, from the name be right higher or anyone else,
but I'm just saying, you look at some of these
teams and you look.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
At like what they've done, like Utah. You know Utah.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
They you know, again, their resume as it stacks up,
doesn't stack up quite as well, but they've got them
slow to fied at thirteen. So there's there's a number
of teams that I'm kind of looking at saying the
committee wants them around or in the vicinity, either to
find a way of getting them in if all hell
breaks loose, or because they wanted to make a case
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for some of these other teams if that team gets
knocked off for beat you know.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And I wonder, and it's a hypothetical because the game
played out, but I do wonder how far would Indiana
have dropped had they lost to Penn State. Like, I
wonder how how much they would have been punished for that,
because because they weren't punished at all, there was no movement,
and that was a game where they didn't look good
at all. And give credit to Penn State, but it
took a really impressive drive and a toe touch in
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the back of the end zone, one of the great
catches you'll ever see for them to win and beat
Penn State in Happy Valley. With all the injuries and
the coaching change and all that, I just wonder how
much they would have been punished for something like that
had they lost that game.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, I think you could have made the case that
if there was a time to move Texas A and
M ahead of Indiana, and there are a lot of
SEC you know, trumpers or you know, people who believe
that they.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Should already be ahead.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
The hard thing is, you know, again going back to
Texas A and M's schedule, you know, they've beat Notre Dame,
like that's there that if you now granted they've they've
played through the SEC, which if you're an sc SEC
you know, biased fan, you think.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
It's the greatest conference in the world.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Missouri's not ranked, LSU's obviously not ranked anymore, or like
who is AMMBTN outside of Notre Dame, which, by the way,
probably should have lost a guy with a holding call
and the final play that gave you that win.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Otherwise you lose, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
But some people would say that, like they feel like
Texas A and M should be ranked higher. A lot
of people are trying to make that argument. But if
there was ever a week to do it, yeah, this
probably would have been that week to do it, even
though it was a great gutsy win, only because of
again how close that game was versus a team that's
really struggled. But I do think the committee looks at
Penn State it's like they're kind of a new team
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now and they're starting to like find themselves offensively. You know,
going back and watching that tape, there's something going on
on offense because the first half the offense looked like
it looked like with James Franklin, and the second half
they started throwing the football down the field. And I'm
wondering if the internetad coach Terry Smith, if he had
just said, hey, we're gonna take some shots here, like
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what do we have to lose? Because it did. That
offense in the second half look entirely different, and it
started to open some things up and sort of help
out and State become the team that maybe they are
destined to be this year and unfortunately, for whatever reason,
just haven't been.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So DraftKings has this option where you can go on
there and you can find to make the college football
playoff or not. Give me a long shot, and I'll
tell you what the payout would be. Somebody that you
look at and go, nobody's paying attention to this team.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
James Madison A right, James Madison will be an interesting
one to throw in there.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Plus two to fifty, so one hundred wins, two fifty
if James Madison makes the college football playoff.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Okay, let's do this again. Can you give me Duke?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Duke is plus six hundred, so six to one?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Okay, wow, how about Tulane.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Plus six fifty?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Interesting?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
So there I mean and again JM you giving their
record all that? Maybe that's why some people feel feel confident.
And to the Duke point, like Duke plays. You know,
they got to play UVA, which will ultimately decide if
they be you know, they got to get through Virginia Tech.
Excuse me, they got to get through North Carolina Wake Forest.
But if they beat uv A, they could be very
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well playing for the AEC championship. Now winning it's another
another thing and another problem. But that that, I mean,
that scenario is out there. I mean it's very very possible.
I A should put it that way.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Now, you mentioned a team yesterday. I only know this team,
I swear to God because I know their most famous
alma mater is or a famous alum is Stone Cold
Steve Austin because he played defensive.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
End there North Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
In North Texas, North Texas is plus two hundred. So
they're sitting yeah, I mean victing it in. Whoever wins
the AAC, I would assume would.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Make it in like they.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I mean maybe not maybe if DAC kind of blows
up the last you know, a few weeks and you've got,
you know, a three loss conference champ. I don't see
that being the case, but they've got They're very similar
to the a The a c C is the AAC.
They both have a ton of teams in the mix,
and these final few weeks were kind of determine it.
So they look to be the most entertaining though. I mean,
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anytime you have a quarterback who has a story like
mess to Maker, who I don't think he started for
his high school team, I mean he was a converted
converted into a quarterback, and this young man's throwing for
like over six hundred yards. Their offense is a ton
of fun to watch. I mean it's as high like
high powered, fast paced. They have balanced to with what
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they can do, but they can sling it all around.
So that's and then, by the way, mess to Makers
are an interesting prospect for the future as far as
teams will drool over him because they feel like there's
so much upside. He's he's big, he's got the porta
table size. He's a great athlete, he can run, and
he's still evolving as a quarterback. So it's it's kind
of a it's a great story regardless, but also like
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he's going to be a great story too when it
comes to the draft, which I believe. I don't think
he's draft eligible yet, but he might be.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So how does that work? So he doesn't play at
all in high school, he's the backup in high school
and he gets an up was there an injury?
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I mean, Ryan Tannehill is wide receiver before he became
quarterback at Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's not that uncommon. And by the way, he had
had a fairly good career in got a great career
money people thought was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I would put him up there.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I mean, there's Kirk Cousins, all right. I mean Russell
Wilson's up there too. I think when we think about
guys who are in the Hall of Fame of business
in the NFL, you have to throw into like, at
one point their career wasn't where it like needed to
know they wanted.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
It to be.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
But they're still making a ton of money. Obviously, Kirk Cousins,
I think is the number one. He's the goat in
the Hall of Fame of business in the NFL. You've
probably got Russell Wilson on there. You've definitely got Ryan
Tannehill on there. And there's a few other guys as
well who are just completely Jacoby brists getting up there.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Ryan Tannehill's made one hundred and ninety five million dollars
in his career. Yeah, and that career was spent in
Florida and Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Good for you, sid incomes acts. Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I didn't even realize that he had made that much money.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That's what I'm He's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No wonder he hasn't come back yet. Remember there was
all this talk like wins Tanneal going to come back.
He's taking a year off. It's turned into two years.
Good for him, that's great. I mean, you know, Tennessee
hasn't been the same. They've been trying to figure out
quarterback ever since. Don't tell Prisco that because I know
a big Will Levis guy. But yeah, that's wow. That's impressive.
So there it is. There's your there's your Volume two
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of the College Football Playoff Rankings. And then uh, when
do we when do we head to Chicago to be
part of the extravagance at Wrigley Field this weekend? When's
that happening?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Well, it's it's a busy week I get to call
the Atlanta Falcons versus Carolina Panthers. So the Falcons obviously
just getting back from Berlin, but I've got to go
visit the Panthers tomorrow for practice and meetings, and then
I'll eventually make my way to Chicago Friday and then
back to Atlanta Saturday.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
So a lot of moving parts, a lot of moving
parts going on right now.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, well, you know, it just depends. Most people can't
handle that, but it depends on who you are. You can,
that's the best part.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Well I can, but you know, I'm not sure if
you can. I know one person can. It's definitely LeVar.
LaVar definitely cannot handle that sort of travel. But one
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One way of describing its.
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ex at the old p Petro's good morning.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Good morning, Hello, good morning Brady. Why what happened? He
went to state college and they lost and he never
came back.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
He's back on the Oregon trail again, trying to make
his way back to the West coast.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yes, your cousin dies of dysentery.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yes, dysenteria was always an issue.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Then if you didn't ration your portions typhoid yep, then
there's that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Damn river at the end.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Hey, Pee, did you guys get a proclamation You're first
ever from the city of Soritos.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Is that true?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I think so. Yeah. We've done a lot of local
politician stuff because we do these shows at BJS that
they sell and I guess they'll never stop selling them,
and they do it every fall, and we do like
six events at BJS, and they're very different from the
summer tour stuff we do, which are more like, I
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don't know, they have a different vibe. So it's hard
to make like a BJS, which are literally exactly the
same anywhere you go around the country pretty much in
different strip malls, like that one Hawaiian University that beat
Boise State and basketball the other night, and Hawaii Pacific University,
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I believe Home of the Sharks, which is literally a
strip mall. So to make those unique and to try
to make it a little different every time, we try
to go super celebratory, hyper local with these places and
celebrate the local politics and talk about their problems, whether
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it's like trash pickup or street vendors them.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I love a good trash pickup talk man.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Anything to make it hyper local. And Cerritos we made
friends with the city councilman and now is the mayor
and he made us a proclamation. We also celebrated a
lot of great things in Cerritos, like Pat Nixon's statue,
Richard Nixon's wife, the first Lady and she was second
(25:21):
lady as well, the Titanium library that they have in Cerritos,
or the mass amount of Filipino DJs. Oh but either way, yeah,
it was not a proclamation. It sounds like, you know,
techno music with a Filipino vibe Steins, Yeah, with Tagala
(25:42):
and all that. So that was, yes, that was the
proclamation thing that you saw on Instagram. I believe.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yes, It's like it's you know, when I think Cirito's,
I was thinking Filipino DJs as well too.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
There's a lot of Filipino DJ troops.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Do you have a go to item at BJ's when
you go there? Are you like the pazookie or do you?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
No?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I don't there that much. I think it's great, but
we've done shows there for years and years and years,
so I stopped eating at some point. But the food
is delicious, don't get me wrong. I just stopped. It's
hard to eat and do a show, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Now, Do you feel any sort of shame?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yes all the time. Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Do you feel it Catholic?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Not Catholic?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do you feel it orthodox?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Brady?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Come on, okay, sorry, the shame is just do.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You I need to explain this.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We didn't have many of your types in Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Well, no, I mean you might have. Orthodox Orthodoxy is
not very different from Catholicism. However, there was a split
in the church when the church basically began. The Greek
Orthodoxy or Orthodox Christianity is the original Christianity, because if
you read the New Testament, everything that's not the Gospel
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is basically a letter to a Greek town. Corinthians is Corinth,
Ephesians is Ephesus, Thessalonians is thessalonikiaso on and on. From there,
you would have your original Pope of the Rome, which
is Peter, who went to Italy. And then you'd have
the original pope or leader of the Eastern Church, which
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would be Paul, who's not an original twelve disciple, but
wrote a great deal of the of the New Testament.
He was in Constantinople, which is modern day Istanbuls, so
your people of Eastern Europe, and then all the way
down even to Ethiopia, in Africa are Orthodox Serbia, Russia, Armenians, Greeks,
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and then on the other side is Catholicism. But Orthodoxy
we are never had a Reformation, so we didn't have
a bunch of offshoot churches like Protestants and you know,
Lutherans and and all that. So anyway, I mean Greek
Orthodox there's still a great deal of guilt, but not
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as much.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, I was just wondering, you know, how much sin
should be attached to you based on the fact that
you know your program wants to be as misleading as
they are in dress up players. Actually, I mean it's
it's just someone call it the Trojan Horse, fake pun play.
It's disgusting, disgusting behavior.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
It was actually the Greeks who did the Trojan Horse.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
To This is why, this is why I'm putting on
you. You're you're a former Trojan and your Greek.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, which is a real oxymoron, because Troy was what
in modern day if it existed, and I think it did,
is would be modern day Evanston, Illinois close Asia minor and.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
So there's no parallel to this play that we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Well, I mean, I guess the Greeks and all different
Greeks from different Greek city states. They were the ones
who were fighting in Troy and couldn't get through the walls.
They're the ones that fake the surrender, moved the boats
around the corner.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, I saw the movie with Brad Pitt. Yeah, I
know you can't take it all seriously that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Reading the Iliad is actually an important thing that everybody
should do. But either way, yes, we put Dean Blandino
on the show on Monday to have him tell everybody,
Like I didn't want to sit there and write a
thing and tell everybody this was illegal and if it
wasn't illegal, it was super bush. And here's how I
(29:58):
feel blah blah blah blah, that I'd have every USC
just like Perreira and Blandino have every USC quote unquote
expert getting after me and all the social media ruining
my day, even when I got a written proclamation from Cerritos.
So we just put Dean Blandino on and got him
(30:20):
to tell everybody that it was illegal and then just
put it to bed. And Dean Blandino was able to
do that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So we had Dean on Tuesday too. He doubled down
on that.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Here's what I don't get about that, Petrosys. Why do
college football fans because it's not just specific to se,
but why did college football fans have the hardest time dealing.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
With the truth.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I mean, I guess because it's such a it's such
a disjointed sport in a great way. In a lot
of ways, we love the chaos of it. We often
talk about that, but I guess it's such a disjointed
sport that you can sort of have what the kids
these days say, you know, I'm going to speak my truth. Yeah, okay,
(31:10):
your truth. It's like, well, there's not really your truth,
or I mean, there's just the truth. It doesn't the
truth is not specific to any individual. But I guess
it gives people there's such tribalism involved that it gives
people an opportunity to defend each other and be totally wrong.
(31:32):
From what I understand from some inside sources, USC had
this play dialed up for the Michigan game, which would
have been hilarious if they did it against Michigan. You
imagine those people getting all upset about the cheating. And
I mean there's good deception in football, like jumping up
and acting like the snap was over your head when
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it was really to the personal protector and it's a
fake punt. And then there's this kind of deception with
roster and kicking shoes and a different jersey. And that's
a former five star quarterback, Sam Hewart. I remember when
he was at U dub and he was the next Messiah.
He was a five star quarterback who won a bunch
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of state championships, whose family is synonymous with Washington football greatness.
And he washed out at Washington. He wasn't good enough.
He was just not that guy as far as his
arm talent and all that goes. So I guess he
went to cal Poly with his high school coach who
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was the offensive coordinator, and then he got fired, so
he left there, and now his uncle is the offensive
coordinator who doesn't call plays for Lincoln Riley at USC,
and that's how he landed there. But he's a former
five star recruit now, I mean a five star quarterback,
and now he's sitting there as a third or four
(33:00):
string guy at USC elaborately trying to figure out if
you're gonna run a fake punt. So I guess the
I guess the play was going to go by the
wayside if they didn't end up running it, because they
had it dialed up for weeks earlier and they decided
to unveil it against Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
It was going to expire. We going to use it.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I guess, like I get that way sometimes with stories
on the radio. You know, you do something, you write
something up that's sort of evergreen, and you forget to
get to it, forget to get to it. Then you're like,
I'm either going to do this today or we're gonna
scrap it. So maybe that's what happened with the Heward play.
But overall it, I mean, it just it's bush league,
(33:47):
and there's a lot of different ways, uh to deceive
in a football game. That seems I mean, it just
seems kind of bush. I remember years ago and Lincoln
Riley's expl nation was a lot like Pete Carroll. I
remember in two thousand and nine it was USC versus
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ucla rivalry game. I was calling and Pete Carroll took
a knee because they're winning and the game was going
to end, and Rick Neuheisel called a time out. So
the next play, Pete Carroll got under center and they
threw it sixty yards downfield with Matt Barkley and scored
another touchdown. Ohez yeah, and then U se La got
(34:29):
all mad and you know, everybody came out to the
hash marks and started yelling at each other. And Pete
Carroll's explanation was, well, you know, we had a good look,
we thought we could execute it. We executed at a
high level. And that's basically, you know exactly what Lincoln,
you know, with a lot less charisma. That's what Lincoln
Riley said after the game on their Coaches Show or whatever.
(34:51):
But I mean, you heard the nation issue. I know,
but I think it's a I thought it was Bushley.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Have you heard the rumors that he's snooping around Yeah,
for like other openings.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yes, And then I heard that from a lot of
different people and a lot of different factions. So whenever
there's talk like that, it means the agents are running
around and chirping. So basically it means it's caa that
agency is running around in chirp, chirp, chirp.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
What do you make of that, though, because if you
wanted to be in the SEC could have stayed at
Oklahoma and have gone or he could have went to LSU.
He had that opportunity, and then you know, and he
ends up at SC and it's like it feels like
he would be better suited staying there then moving to
another SEC school, unless I'm maybe you see that different.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I don't know. I mean, I know I know about
Lincoln Riley in Los Angeles. I mean he actually lives
in the town that I live in, So his kids
go to school with a bunch of people that I know,
friends and neighbors. Well, I don't we don't speak much,
but I would say that he has done very little
(36:05):
to endear himself to the community and open up to
people and do any kind of outreach which would improve
his status exponentially amongst money people at USC and influential
people at USC. If I had to guess, because you
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never really know somebody's heart or mind, I don't think
he's comfortable here. I mean, maybe his family likes it,
maybe he likes this town, but he's not comfortable. It's
not a great intellectual fit. He's not really. I mean,
they've had to force him, They've had to force his
(36:47):
hand to recruit locally, which is really the only true
key to success generationally at USC they've had to force
his hand with the GM position being legitimate and all
kinds different stuff. So I don't think. I just don't
think he's dynamic enough for the area, and it's probably
(37:07):
more comfortable at a Texas or an Arkansas, you know,
a place someplace like that. That would be my guess
as to why that they're snooping around or rumors that
are spreading. You know, people also like to stay in
front of the wagon train because it's not I mean,
they're having a good year, but they could lose to
(37:28):
Iowa and lose to Oregon and it's over, and those
very feasible things that could happen. They could even lose
to UCLA, So even though they're having a good year
right now, it couldn't It might not last. So that
would be my guess. But I don't know. But it's
not exactly like he's I mean, you're around Brady. Are
(37:51):
USC people uber and pressed with Lincoln Riley or clamoring
or begging for him to stay even if he was
considering leaving. Probably not so. Uh. He hasn't done much
to make himself unexpendable, so to speak, like Pete Carroll did,
where everybody's like, what are we gonna do without Pete?
(38:11):
You know, he crippled us with sanctions. I don't think
that there's much. There's a lot of fervor to keep
Lincoln Riley if he was considering leaving it.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Like it feels like his stock is way down in
comparison to when he first got here.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Well, yeah, he got here and they brought Caleb Williams
and they won a bunch of games they couldn't. They
almost made that fourteen playoff but lost to Utah twice.
And after that Lincoln Riley said to everybody, this is
as bad as we're ever going to be. It's going
to be it's going to be off and running from here.
And then they ended up losing to Willie Fritz's two
(38:49):
lane team in the Cotton Bowl. And honestly, that was
the best UCLA has been in the Lincoln Riley era.
Maybe they're better this year, but that last, that first
year with Caleb Williams when he won the Heisman, was
the best he ever had here at USC And those
were all Clay Helton's guys mostly as far as just
(39:12):
the structure of the team other than Caleb, and what
is Addison, the receiver that they put Carson Palmer's retired
number on for like six.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Games, probably never paid as much as they told him
they were going to.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
But yeah, you heard that rumor, huh that that was
around that That was actually one of the worst Kevin rumors,
was how unhappy he was with.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Not getting paid what he was told.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
He'd be paid. So, yeah, welcome to La.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Well, Chad Boonen's there now, so that'll happen often.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Oh damn, I saw his dad in a Valure sweatsuit
at the World Series A whole bunch, that's true. But
he also has two toned hair. But either way, yes,
whatever the question was, the answer is yes.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, his is a stock is down. Now where's your
How do you feel about the UCLA leaving the Rose
Bowl to go to Sofi Stadium?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Story dumbest story in the dumbest idea in the world.
It's a corporate thing, and I guess they're deal with
the Rose Bowls really bad and they'd get no concessions
and all this. So even if they have to pay
the Rose Bowl off or go to court, I guess
they're still going to be in the black if they
move and they get a better piece of parking and
(40:35):
concessions and this or that. But UCLA's biggest problem is
that they don't have anything close enough to where the
kids can get drunk and walk over. And look, we've seen,
I've talked about this a whole bunch. We've seen. I
know Houston's having some attendance problems. But when they left
the Astrodome, which they were being swallowed up by, they
(40:58):
started to have a lot more success as a program.
Now they're in the Big twelve and having a great
year and two lane same thing. Once they left Lake
Poncha train and got out of the Supernome and built
it on campus Stadium again, their program thrived and is thriving.
And UCF I was just there. I just did the
(41:19):
space game, which I've never done anything like that. What
do you think I was dumbfounded, Brady, I've never seen anything.
And I've played a lot of places and called a
lot of games in a lot of places, and I understand,
you know, wideouts and blackouts, and he announced us the
grove and all these different things. I'd never ever seen
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anything like the UCF Space Game. It was like a
theme game for college football with different uniforms, a whole
different format, a different mascot, the Citronaut, which was their
original mascot. I didn't know. It was originally opened as
a feeder school to the Kennedy Space Center, and it
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was absolutely everybody was dressed like Bubba Fett or an
alien or a spaceman. Everybody had the space gear. They
had a different uniform with glowing the dark numbers that
celebrated hyperspace research. It was absolutely a spectacle.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Just imagine if the moon landing was real.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
But it was exactly You should have seen the moon
that night over Orlando. It really was. I've never experienced
anything like that in college football or calling a college
football game. You got to give UCF a ton of
credit for creating that whole thing because it is magic.
(42:47):
It really was. But anyway, UCF, who used to play
in the Camping World Stadium or the Citrus Bowl, they
moved and obviously it's been great for their program as well.
Should have a thirty five thousand person on campus stadium.
(43:08):
They actually have one there, it's called Drake Stadium that
they could build out and make cool for the kids.
Why don't they, Well a lot of reasons. Number one
Everything in La sucks. Number two, everything in West La
sucks a thousand times more, and you would have the
(43:32):
HOA in the sixties. I think the Hoas and everything
above UCLA on Sunset Boulevard, which is bel Air, would
fight at tooth and nail for parking and this and that.
But you could probably figure out like a Hollywood Bowl.
I mean they have poly pavilion which is about half
(43:54):
the size of a thirty five thousand person stadium or
maybe a little less than that, and you should be
able to figure out parking with like a Hollywood Bowl
style shuttle system or I'm not sure, but there's too
much red tape. And I mean at UCLA you have
to get seven signatures just to get a new pencil sharpener.
(44:16):
Anybody who wants to fire an assistant coach or do
something like that, it takes months because it ends up
in the grinding bureaucracy of the UC system and an
on campus stadium. We just look. They said they were
going to build a train here in southern California for
like a billion dollars twenty years ago, and I think
(44:39):
they built like seven yards of track and it's cost
a billion dollars. Some stupid thing like that. And the
train is like, you know, doesn't even get a first down,
it's like seven yards. And so basically we're too stupid
to figure anything out like that, like they can figure
out in New Orleans, Houston, or Orlando. And that's why
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they don't have it. And you know, the thing is,
UCLA should play at the Rose Bowl, but they shouldn't
play all their games at the Rose Bowl. They should
have an on campus stadium where you play New Mexico
or Northwestern or whoever's in town. And then when you
play Ohio State or these Big Ten teams that have
huge fan bases and people want to come out to
(45:25):
the Rose Bowl and be there because it's a beautiful
setting for college football as we all know. Then you
play Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan whatever at the Rose
Bowl two or three times a year, USC if you
have them on the even years, they should play there.
But everybody's too stupid to figure that out. This is
(45:47):
a corporate move. And yes, is SOFI Stadium closer than
the Rose Bowl to UCLA, Yes, theoretically it is. But
at the same time you're talking about going the opposite
direction and one of the worst stretches of freeway in
the world. The four h five between Inglewood and Westwood,
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and the parking is like one hundred bucks. Seventy five bucks.
You for pro football you have to be in a
special tailgate lot that cost over one hundred dollars to park.
The kids aren't going to go there either, So it's
it's it doesn't It seems like causing a solving a
(46:28):
problem with another problem. They should have an on campus stadium,
but there's too much red tape and too much bureaucracy
to get that to happen.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Petro's what does the rose Bol host then outside of
the Rose Bowl if Uctilly is not hosting their home
games there.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Well, they have a flea market, an antique flea market
that's pretty big. They'll do concerts.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Is that it like a monthly thing?
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Now? Maybe you know that's a good question. I mean
the soccer, you know, international soccer, big, big soccer matches,
if like you know, real Madrid comes out here.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Stuff to say from an annual revenue.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Respective, I don't. I don't know what's going on in
the historic Arroyo Sikle, but I don't. I don't for
their deal with UCLA I mean, how big could that be.
It's six games or whatever.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
But I well, again there's not much attendance and whatnot,
so maybe.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Well they're having trouble. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean,
Jim Mora was the last coach and maybe it was
just about bring it back. He was. He's done great,
he's done a yeah he has. He was really kind
of the last coach to put sixty thousand or fifty
thousand people, which is much less than it holds, but
fifty sixty thousand people there consistently. That was Jim Mora,
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and ever since then it's it's been a real struggle
to get anybody in there unless they're playing USC or
or some big just haven't been good.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
It's pretty disrespectful. You skip over the drone art show
that's going to be there this weekend at the road.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Okay, well there you go. There's some Yeah, check the
schedule that Jonas like he just did.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, the Turkey Trot as well too. Petros, quickly, do
you have a Are you calling a game this weekend?
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm going to Fresno. Oh yeah, versus Wyoming?
Get that try tip Homie. Yeah, everybody talks about the
try tip. I don't want to wait in line for
a sandwich.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
Though, I'll send a BA. That's a clat would do.
What tell me I'm wrong?
Speaker 4 (48:40):
I can't. I can't tell you you're wrong. I remember
doing a game with Joel. You'd smoke a cigarette right
before the game and send the PA for some It
all mad. Now you're gonna ruin his.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
By the way, I asked him that, and you threw
me under the bus completely. So I just want you
to know what do you mean. I'm not going into
it on the air. I'm just saying there was a lot.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
You just brought up the whole thing. You brought up Joel,
and then you brought up that's pretty Jonas. You got
to back me up there. He brought all of that up.
He did, and then he goes do it.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
I'll say it. Then I'll say it.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
No, no, no, no, please okay. But I just I
remember doing a game with Joel at Baylor. It was
a big game. It was Baylor Oklahoma, and and it
was like two hours before the game, right and we're
in the concourse parliaments. Uh, we weren't smoking at that point,
(49:42):
But I remember saying, Joel stop, I want to buy
a T shirt. It was like two hours before the
game and he's like, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
He went up into the booth.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
He couldn't wait for me, and I got into the
booth like thirty seconds after him, and I was like,
all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
And that would it would give him so much more
street cred if people knew about Rippon darts.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
But all right, Petro used to be a lot more
nervous before the games. Let's just put it.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
I think Gus loosened them up. Gus is listening them up.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
Well, you know that's a vape pin. That's a different.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Oh, Petros and money shows where you can hear Petros
alongside Matt.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Joe on one of those robot ds.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
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and I today, Brady, It's just us because well what
happened LeVar. For some reason, that man that travel back
from state college just a real pain in the ass.
You know, the travel there is a pain. Could you
lose three hours and it takes four days to get
there without the time change the travel back. For some reason,
he always seems to hit a snag.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Let me say something.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It is an advertisement to not take that head coaching job.
I'm trying to explain to him, like, you all got
to do something about the airport situation there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It literally takes away from the entire.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Experience and people can get upset who are Penn State fans.
But you know it, I know it. It's hard to
drive to, it's hard to fly into. There's not many options.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
You need a.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Bigger airport, I'm sorry, like you do. And so you're
the biggest school, I would say in the state. I
think it's bigger in pitt Go lobby the state, like, go,
go figure out a way of getting more funds to
get a bigger airport, to get more flights or better
flights in there.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It is awful to get in and out of it.
By the way, it's one of.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
The only bad things about Penn State though it's really
just the airport situation.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But it does feel like.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Every single time LaVar Heard goes there, he is embarking
on the organ trail and it just takes some days
to be able to get back.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, so that's yeah, that's why he's not here. So
we're assuming he'll be back by tomorrow. We're assuming that's
going to happen and he will be here tomorrow, but nonetheless,
there'll be no LeVar, so no sticks here. It'll be
Brady Quinn and I had taken you all.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
The way up.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
During this three hour journey, college football playoff rankings came
out Volume two Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A, and m
Alabama Georgia. Top five stays the same. What jumped out
to you. I was doing a little bit of a
deep dive trying to figure out what the hell is
going on?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
To tell what was the deep dive?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
The ACC is confusing.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The hell out of it. It's crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't understand, like there's I've seen like some potential
that maybe nobody gets in. I've s like just people
are thrown out all sorts of scenarios trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's highly unlikely.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
And so just so people understand where the ACC is at,
there's five teams right now that are in position to
potentially play for the conference championship.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And that's significant for this reason.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Duke, who sits with four losses, only has one loss
in conference play, so they can play spoiler. They can
end up being a team that ultimately with little help,
ends up winning out and then plays in the conference
championship wins it wins the ACC. And the thought is
that how it's stated in the College Football Playoff is
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that the five highest rank conference champions will get in,
and everyone seems to think that or assume that it
will be the conference champions of the Power for and
then the highest ranked group of six, although the AAC
is another league that's highly competitive, and in particular, if
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it's Tulane, who I believe only has one loss in
conference play. If Tulane happens to win out and win
the AAC, well they beat Duke head to head, the
College Football Playoff Committee, based on their own criteria, would
have to allow to Lane to get in over Duke,
given that they have a better record and they actually
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beat him head to head and they are a conference champ.
And then the wild cards James Madison. James Madison could
go twelve to one, they could win the Sun Belt
and that would be the other team that you could
potentially have higher ranked than Duke at that point, just
because Duke has four losses and you know, again, they'd
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be winning the ACC, but they wouldn't have the head
to head tie break over Tulane, and jam you obviously
has a better record overall, So there's the thought that
that could happen. I haven't looked at enough of the models.
I don't think it's going to happen. I think Duke
would be the fifth highest ranked team in that regard,
but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And by the way, like Duke would have probably a
couple more.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Quality wins in the eyes of the committee than James Madison.
But the problem is, you know, getting the overall record,
James Madison would have a twelve to one record, which
we be pretty good. And they are a good football team,
by the way, like Indiana's essentially playing with a lot
of James Madison players that kurtin Signetty brought with him
to Indiana these past couple of years, and they're most
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likely to get drafted in the NFL. So for people
who don't know about James Madison, they got a good
football team and they're probably gonna win the Sun Belt.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, it's wild man, and just to think that whatever
they roll out this week, things are going to change
next week and we just continue on until we get
the final team. What was I think what's what's most
interesting is people are still bitching about the whole Notre
Dame where they're ranked and Miami and Miami did move
up a few spots after the win this week.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
But look, I get it, like there is the element
of head to head play. Miami beat Notre Dame and
there is something to be said for that. So I
do wonder when that comes into play in the final
rankings if Miami wins out. Now, Miami is a team
that's lost twice in conference play. I didn't them as
one of those teams. It's basically like everyone else who's
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who's in contention for the ACC besides Miami.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
But again, like Miami's ranked higher than Georgia Tech.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Who's got a better chance of eight and one of
playing for the ACC championship.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
UVa's A and two.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
They've only lost once in conference play, though they're part
of that conversation. So there's a lot of teams that
are in the as you know, Louisville for example, it
is not one of those teams, but it will probably
be Georgia Tech and UVA. By the way, But the
arguments like this whole and I get it, but you
also have to look at what Miami has done the
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last three weeks. I mean, got to win this past week,
but you know, they lost two of the last three
before that or whatever it was, not of names one
seven in a row, and they're beating the crap out
of teams. You know, they just beat at what seven
to one Navy team that was a part of that
conversation AAC. AAC has a lot of teams playing for it,
So I'm not sure how the committee views And I'd
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ask you, like, how do you view at the end
of the season, a team that's one, let's say Notre
Dame wins out of the win ten in a row.
How do you view that amongst the team that's maybe lost,
you know, twice in the past six games.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I would take the team that's going that's hot at
the current moment as opposed to the team that won
a game back in September. I mean, it's look in
the NFL, the Raiders beat the Patriots in Week one.
Things change and I just look at it, and I say,
for whoever's complaining, you can't just win one game early
on and think that's just going to carry the weight
of your entire season when you've come up short in
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other spots throughout the course of the year and the
other team goes on a heater. That's the part, and
I understand why people want to hold on to that,
but it sort of falls apart when you factor in
there's been two months of football since. You can't just
bank on that one win and say, well, that should
put us ahead of them. What happened after that? What
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did you do after that? And whatever they want to
complain about the schedule and whatnot. That's the part where
that's the advantage to scheduling those games early on, because
you have time to make up for it if you
do fall apart, much like what happened with Northern Illinois.
As it turned out at the end of the year,
Miami is one of the top two teams in the
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country and we look back on that Northern Illinois game
and go, well, yeah, what happened there, Or we can
look at what happened every other week after that up
until the College Football champion like that. That's the part
that I think people you're just holding on to one
win and not focusing on the other opportunities to win
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games throughout the stretch, which you came up short in.
That's how I feel about it. I do wonder how
last year's results.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
In the playoff played a role in that.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
You know, Ohio State was a team that made it
in but made it as an at large bid and
obviously got on a run and ended up. And then,
by the way, that was like trusting your eyes and
trusting the eye test. Because Ohiosate was just a talented team.
We knew that, but they never really played up to
it until they got into the College Football Playoff. You know,
Notre Dame was a team who ripped off, you know,
well to ten eleven whatever it was after the Illinois game,
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and you know, they were one of those hot teams
that got in similar to Ohio State and then kind
of went on the run, even though they finished this
season like that. And I wonder if they were looking
at Notre Dame in a similar fashion, saying, hey, same
head coach, the team actually looks like it's got a
more balanced offense.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Their defense has improved mightily.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Maybe that's a team that we say, all right, we're
putting them in position because they don't play a conference
championship game that if they do went out like we
want them in there. We think they're one of the
top twelve best. And that's what you've tasked the committee
with doing. For people to get upset about. It's like
the reality is they just want to try to put
the best twelve teams in there, and going back and
looking at last year, I'm sorry, SMU, they didn't feel
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like that was a really great performance. You know, they
felt like they got in based on the resume.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
In the ACC.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
But the ACC you know, maybe doesn't stack up quite
as well as some of the others. And there's some
other teams too that they're probably looking at saying, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Maybe we don't redo this again. That's why they've redone.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
How they're doing the buys where they're just gonna say, hey,
the top four teams that we think are the best
for they're gonna get the buys this year. We're not
doing this whole like the you know, four highest rank
conference champions. The other thing I point out is, and
it's kind of interesting to me, Oregon Oregan's an eight
and one football team. They've got a good, gutsy win
on the road, bad weather in Iowa City, but Iowa
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was probably their best I shouldn't say probably Iowa is
their best win, an eighteen to six win over Iowa.
Outside of that, like that Penn State win doesn't look
the same. I know, Happy Valley's a tough place to play.
That was before James Frank was fired. That was, you know,
you know, back when Drew Aller was there as a quarterback.
But I mean, I don't know, Like I'm kind of
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looking at Oregon. I think they look like they're one
of those talented teams, but for as high as their ranked,
I don't really get it. I mean, the meat of
their schedule kind of comes at the end versus SC
in a couple of weeks and then Washington.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But I like, I have more of a griper.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I would have more of a gripe if I was
a you know, college football fan and look at these
rankings saying, why the heck is organ rank so high?
I mean, I realized they have one loss, but like,
who have they really beaten? And I'm not advocating, by
the way, from the name be right higher or anyone else,
but I'm just saying, you look at some of these
teams and you look.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
At like what they've done, like Utah. You know Utah.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
They you know, again, their resume as it stacks up,
doesn't stack up quite as well, but they've got them
slow to fied at thirteen. So there's there's a number
of teams that I'm kind of looking at saying the
committee wants them around or in the vicinity, either to
find a way of getting them in if all hell
breaks loose, or because they wanted to make a case
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for some of these other teams if that team gets
knocked off for beat you know.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And I wonder, and it's a hypothetical because the game
played out, but I do wonder how far would Indiana
have dropped had they lost to Penn State. Like, I
wonder how how much they would have been punished for that,
because because they weren't punished at all, there was no movement,
and that was a game where they didn't look good
at all. And give credit to Penn State, but it
took a really impressive drive and a toe touch in
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the back of the end zone, one of the great
catches you'll ever see for them to win and beat
Penn State in Happy Valley. With all the injuries and
the coaching change and all that, I just wonder how
much they would have been punished for something like that
had they lost that game.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, I think you could have made the case that
if there was a time to move Texas A and
M ahead of Indiana, and there are a lot of
SEC you know, trumpers or you know, people who believe
that they.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Should already be ahead.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
The hard thing is, you know, again going back to
Texas A and M's schedule, you know, they've beat Notre Dame,
like that's there that if you now granted they've they've
played through the SEC, which if you're an sc SEC
you know, biased fan, you think.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
It's the greatest conference in the world.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Missouri's not ranked, LSU's obviously not ranked anymore, or like
who is AMMBTN outside of Notre Dame, which, by the way,
probably should have lost a guy with a holding call
and the final play that gave you that win.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Otherwise you lose, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
But some people would say that, like they feel like
Texas A and M should be ranked higher. A lot
of people are trying to make that argument. But if
there was ever a week to do it, yeah, this
probably would have been that week to do it, even
though it was a great gutsy win, only because of
again how close that game was versus a team that's
really struggled. But I do think the committee looks at
Penn State it's like they're kind of a new team
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now and they're starting to like find themselves offensively. You know,
going back and watching that tape, there's something going on
on offense because the first half the offense looked like
it looked like with James Franklin, and the second half
they started throwing the football down the field. And I'm
wondering if the internetad coach Terry Smith, if he had
just said, hey, we're gonna take some shots here, like
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what do we have to lose? Because it did. That
offense in the second half look entirely different, and it
started to open some things up and sort of help
out and State become the team that maybe they are
destined to be this year and unfortunately, for whatever reason,
just haven't been.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So DraftKings has this option where you can go on
there and you can find to make the college football
playoff or not. Give me a long shot, and I'll
tell you what the payout would be. Somebody that you
look at and go, nobody's paying attention to this team.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
James Madison A right, James Madison will be an interesting
one to throw in there.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Plus two to fifty, so one hundred wins, two fifty
if James Madison makes the college football playoff.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Okay, let's do this again. Can you give me Duke?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Duke is plus six hundred, so six to one?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Okay, wow, how about Tulane.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Plus six fifty?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Interesting?
Speaker 5 (15:48):
So there I mean and again JM you giving their
record all that? Maybe that's why some people feel feel confident.
And to the Duke point, like Duke plays. You know,
they got to play UVA, which will ultimately decide if
they be you know, they got to get through Virginia Tech.
Excuse me, they got to get through North Carolina Wake Forest.
But if they beat uv A, they could be very
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well playing for the AEC championship. Now winning it's another
another thing and another problem. But that that, I mean,
that scenario is out there. I mean it's very very possible.
I A should put it that way.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Now, you mentioned a team yesterday. I only know this team,
I swear to God because I know their most famous
alma mater is or a famous alum is Stone Cold
Steve Austin because he played defensive.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
End there North Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
In North Texas, North Texas is plus two hundred. So
they're sitting yeah, I mean victing it in. Whoever wins
the AAC, I would assume would.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Make it in like they.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
I mean maybe not maybe if DAC kind of blows
up the last you know, a few weeks and you've got,
you know, a three loss conference champ. I don't see
that being the case, but they've got They're very similar
to the a The a c C is the AAC.
They both have a ton of teams in the mix,
and these final few weeks were kind of determine it.
So they look to be the most entertaining though. I mean,
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anytime you have a quarterback who has a story like
mess to Maker, who I don't think he started for
his high school team, I mean he was a converted
converted into a quarterback, and this young man's throwing for
like over six hundred yards. Their offense is a ton
of fun to watch. I mean it's as high like
high powered, fast paced. They have balanced to with what
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they can do, but they can sling it all around.
So that's and then, by the way, mess to Makers
are an interesting prospect for the future as far as
teams will drool over him because they feel like there's
so much upside. He's he's big, he's got the porta
table size. He's a great athlete, he can run, and
he's still evolving as a quarterback. So it's it's kind
of a it's a great story regardless, but also like
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he's going to be a great story too when it
comes to the draft, which I believe. I don't think
he's draft eligible yet, but he might be.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So how does that work? So he doesn't play at
all in high school, he's the backup in high school
and he gets an up was there an injury?
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I mean, Ryan Tannehill is wide receiver before he became
quarterback at Texas A and M.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's not that uncommon. And by the way, he had
had a fairly good career in got a great career
money people thought was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I would put him up there.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I mean, there's Kirk Cousins, all right. I mean Russell
Wilson's up there too. I think when we think about
guys who are in the Hall of Fame of business
in the NFL, you have to throw into like, at
one point their career wasn't where it like needed to
know they wanted.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
It to be.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
But they're still making a ton of money. Obviously, Kirk Cousins,
I think is the number one. He's the goat in
the Hall of Fame of business in the NFL. You've
probably got Russell Wilson on there. You've definitely got Ryan
Tannehill on there. And there's a few other guys as
well who are just completely Jacoby brists getting up there.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Ryan Tannehill's made one hundred and ninety five million dollars
in his career. Yeah, and that career was spent in
Florida and Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Good for you, sid incomes acts. Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I didn't even realize that he had made that much money.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
That's what I'm He's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No wonder he hasn't come back yet. Remember there was
all this talk like wins Tanneal going to come back.
He's taking a year off. It's turned into two years.
Good for him, that's great. I mean, you know, Tennessee
hasn't been the same. They've been trying to figure out
quarterback ever since. Don't tell Prisco that because I know
a big Will Levis guy. But yeah, that's wow. That's impressive.
So there it is. There's your there's your Volume two
(19:22):
of the College Football Playoff Rankings. And then uh, when
do we when do we head to Chicago to be
part of the extravagance at Wrigley Field this weekend? When's
that happening?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Well, it's it's a busy week I get to call
the Atlanta Falcons versus Carolina Panthers. So the Falcons obviously
just getting back from Berlin, but I've got to go
visit the Panthers tomorrow for practice and meetings, and then
I'll eventually make my way to Chicago Friday and then
back to Atlanta Saturday.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
So a lot of moving parts, a lot of moving
parts going on right now.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, well, you know, it just depends. Most people can't
handle that, but it depends on who you are. You can,
that's the best part.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Well I can, but you know, I'm not sure if
you can. I know one person can. It's definitely LeVar.
LaVar definitely cannot handle that sort of travel. But one
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I was telling people, Uh, you weren't here I think
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Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, that was quite the crowd that we were around there.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Depressing. Depressing, pressing is.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
One way of describing its.
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Yeah, it's uh, you know, it's an odd place, but
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so hopefully we'll be able to catch up with Sticks now.
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I thought he got gout again based on his uh,
his time and Happy Valley.
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right now. It is a Wednesday tradition. It is Petros Papadakis,
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ex at the old p Petro's good morning.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Good morning, Hello, good morning Brady. Why what happened? He
went to state college and they lost and he never
came back.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
He's back on the Oregon trail again, trying to make
his way back to the West coast.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yes, your cousin dies of dysentery.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yes, dysenteria was always an issue.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Then if you didn't ration your portions typhoid yep, then
there's that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Damn river at the end.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Hey, Pee, did you guys get a proclamation You're first
ever from the city of Soritos.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Is that true?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I think so. Yeah. We've done a lot of local
politician stuff because we do these shows at BJS that
they sell and I guess they'll never stop selling them,
and they do it every fall, and we do like
six events at BJS, and they're very different from the
summer tour stuff we do, which are more like, I
(24:09):
don't know, they have a different vibe. So it's hard
to make like a BJS, which are literally exactly the
same anywhere you go around the country pretty much in
different strip malls, like that one Hawaiian University that beat
Boise State and basketball the other night, and Hawaii Pacific University,
(24:30):
I believe Home of the Sharks, which is literally a
strip mall. So to make those unique and to try
to make it a little different every time, we try
to go super celebratory, hyper local with these places and
celebrate the local politics and talk about their problems, whether
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it's like trash pickup or street vendors them.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I love a good trash pickup talk man.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Anything to make it hyper local. And Cerritos we made
friends with the city councilman and now is the mayor
and he made us a proclamation. We also celebrated a
lot of great things in Cerritos, like Pat Nixon's statue,
Richard Nixon's wife, the first Lady and she was second
(25:21):
lady as well, the Titanium library that they have in Cerritos,
or the mass amount of Filipino DJs. Oh but either way, yeah,
it was not a proclamation. It sounds like, you know,
techno music with a Filipino vibe Steins, Yeah, with Tagala
(25:42):
and all that. So that was, yes, that was the
proclamation thing that you saw on Instagram. I believe.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yes, It's like it's you know, when I think Cirito's,
I was thinking Filipino DJs as well too.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
There's a lot of Filipino DJ troops.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Do you have a go to item at BJ's when
you go there? Are you like the pazookie or do you?
Speaker 5 (26:04):
No?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
I don't there that much. I think it's great, but
we've done shows there for years and years and years,
so I stopped eating at some point. But the food
is delicious, don't get me wrong. I just stopped. It's
hard to eat and do a show, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Now, Do you feel any sort of shame?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yes all the time. Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Do you feel it Catholic?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Not Catholic?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do you feel it orthodox?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Brady?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Come on, okay, sorry, the shame is just do.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You I need to explain this.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We didn't have many of your types in Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Well, no, I mean you might have. Orthodox Orthodoxy is
not very different from Catholicism. However, there was a split
in the church when the church basically began. The Greek
Orthodoxy or Orthodox Christianity is the original Christianity, because if
you read the New Testament, everything that's not the Gospel
(27:04):
is basically a letter to a Greek town. Corinthians is Corinth,
Ephesians is Ephesus, Thessalonians is thessalonikiaso on and on. From there,
you would have your original Pope of the Rome, which
is Peter, who went to Italy. And then you'd have
the original pope or leader of the Eastern Church, which
(27:28):
would be Paul, who's not an original twelve disciple, but
wrote a great deal of the of the New Testament.
He was in Constantinople, which is modern day Istanbuls, so
your people of Eastern Europe, and then all the way
down even to Ethiopia, in Africa are Orthodox Serbia, Russia, Armenians, Greeks,
(27:55):
and then on the other side is Catholicism. But Orthodoxy
we are never had a Reformation, so we didn't have
a bunch of offshoot churches like Protestants and you know,
Lutherans and and all that. So anyway, I mean Greek
Orthodox there's still a great deal of guilt, but not
(28:16):
as much.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, I was just wondering, you know, how much sin
should be attached to you based on the fact that
you know your program wants to be as misleading as
they are in dress up players. Actually, I mean it's
it's just someone call it the Trojan Horse, fake pun play.
It's disgusting, disgusting behavior.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
It was actually the Greeks who did the Trojan Horse.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
To This is why, this is why I'm putting on
you. You're you're a former Trojan and your Greek.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, which is a real oxymoron, because Troy was what
in modern day if it existed, and I think it did,
is would be modern day Evanston, Illinois close Asia minor and.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
So there's no parallel to this play that we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Well, I mean, I guess the Greeks and all different
Greeks from different Greek city states. They were the ones
who were fighting in Troy and couldn't get through the walls.
They're the ones that fake the surrender, moved the boats
around the corner.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, I saw the movie with Brad Pitt. Yeah, I
know you can't take it all seriously that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Reading the Iliad is actually an important thing that everybody
should do. But either way, yes, we put Dean Blandino
on the show on Monday to have him tell everybody,
Like I didn't want to sit there and write a
thing and tell everybody this was illegal and if it
wasn't illegal, it was super bush. And here's how I
(29:58):
feel blah blah blah blah, that I'd have every USC
just like Perreira and Blandino have every USC quote unquote
expert getting after me and all the social media ruining
my day, even when I got a written proclamation from Cerritos.
So we just put Dean Blandino on and got him
(30:20):
to tell everybody that it was illegal and then just
put it to bed. And Dean Blandino was able to
do that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So we had Dean on Tuesday too. He doubled down
on that.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Here's what I don't get about that, Petrosys. Why do
college football fans because it's not just specific to se,
but why did college football fans have the hardest time dealing.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
With the truth.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I mean, I guess because it's such a it's such
a disjointed sport in a great way. In a lot
of ways, we love the chaos of it. We often
talk about that, but I guess it's such a disjointed
sport that you can sort of have what the kids
these days say, you know, I'm going to speak my truth. Yeah, okay,
(31:10):
your truth. It's like, well, there's not really your truth,
or I mean, there's just the truth. It doesn't the
truth is not specific to any individual. But I guess
it gives people there's such tribalism involved that it gives
people an opportunity to defend each other and be totally wrong.
(31:32):
From what I understand from some inside sources, USC had
this play dialed up for the Michigan game, which would
have been hilarious if they did it against Michigan. You
imagine those people getting all upset about the cheating. And
I mean there's good deception in football, like jumping up
and acting like the snap was over your head when
(31:54):
it was really to the personal protector and it's a
fake punt. And then there's this kind of deception with
roster and kicking shoes and a different jersey. And that's
a former five star quarterback, Sam Hewart. I remember when
he was at U dub and he was the next Messiah.
He was a five star quarterback who won a bunch
(32:17):
of state championships, whose family is synonymous with Washington football greatness.
And he washed out at Washington. He wasn't good enough.
He was just not that guy as far as his
arm talent and all that goes. So I guess he
went to cal Poly with his high school coach who
(32:38):
was the offensive coordinator, and then he got fired, so
he left there, and now his uncle is the offensive
coordinator who doesn't call plays for Lincoln Riley at USC,
and that's how he landed there. But he's a former
five star recruit now, I mean a five star quarterback,
and now he's sitting there as a third or four
(33:00):
string guy at USC elaborately trying to figure out if
you're gonna run a fake punt. So I guess the
I guess the play was going to go by the
wayside if they didn't end up running it, because they
had it dialed up for weeks earlier and they decided
to unveil it against Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
It was going to expire. We going to use it.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I guess, like I get that way sometimes with stories
on the radio. You know, you do something, you write
something up that's sort of evergreen, and you forget to
get to it, forget to get to it. Then you're like,
I'm either going to do this today or we're gonna
scrap it. So maybe that's what happened with the Heward play.
But overall it, I mean, it just it's bush league,
(33:47):
and there's a lot of different ways, uh to deceive
in a football game. That seems I mean, it just
seems kind of bush. I remember years ago and Lincoln
Riley's expl nation was a lot like Pete Carroll. I
remember in two thousand and nine it was USC versus
(34:07):
ucla rivalry game. I was calling and Pete Carroll took
a knee because they're winning and the game was going
to end, and Rick Neuheisel called a time out. So
the next play, Pete Carroll got under center and they
threw it sixty yards downfield with Matt Barkley and scored
another touchdown. Ohez yeah, and then U se La got
(34:29):
all mad and you know, everybody came out to the
hash marks and started yelling at each other. And Pete
Carroll's explanation was, well, you know, we had a good look,
we thought we could execute it. We executed at a
high level. And that's basically, you know exactly what Lincoln,
you know, with a lot less charisma. That's what Lincoln
Riley said after the game on their Coaches Show or whatever.
(34:51):
But I mean, you heard the nation issue. I know,
but I think it's a I thought it was Bushley.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Have you heard the rumors that he's snooping around Yeah,
for like other openings.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yes, And then I heard that from a lot of
different people and a lot of different factions. So whenever
there's talk like that, it means the agents are running
around and chirping. So basically it means it's caa that
agency is running around in chirp, chirp, chirp.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
What do you make of that, though, because if you
wanted to be in the SEC could have stayed at
Oklahoma and have gone or he could have went to LSU.
He had that opportunity, and then you know, and he
ends up at SC and it's like it feels like
he would be better suited staying there then moving to
another SEC school, unless I'm maybe you see that different.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I don't know. I mean, I know I know about
Lincoln Riley in Los Angeles. I mean he actually lives
in the town that I live in, So his kids
go to school with a bunch of people that I know,
friends and neighbors. Well, I don't we don't speak much,
but I would say that he has done very little
(36:05):
to endear himself to the community and open up to
people and do any kind of outreach which would improve
his status exponentially amongst money people at USC and influential
people at USC. If I had to guess, because you
(36:25):
never really know somebody's heart or mind, I don't think
he's comfortable here. I mean, maybe his family likes it,
maybe he likes this town, but he's not comfortable. It's
not a great intellectual fit. He's not really. I mean,
they've had to force him, They've had to force his
(36:47):
hand to recruit locally, which is really the only true
key to success generationally at USC they've had to force
his hand with the GM position being legitimate and all
kinds different stuff. So I don't think. I just don't
think he's dynamic enough for the area, and it's probably
(37:07):
more comfortable at a Texas or an Arkansas, you know,
a place someplace like that. That would be my guess
as to why that they're snooping around or rumors that
are spreading. You know, people also like to stay in
front of the wagon train because it's not I mean,
they're having a good year, but they could lose to
(37:28):
Iowa and lose to Oregon and it's over, and those
very feasible things that could happen. They could even lose
to UCLA, So even though they're having a good year
right now, it couldn't It might not last. So that
would be my guess. But I don't know. But it's
not exactly like he's I mean, you're around Brady. Are
(37:51):
USC people uber and pressed with Lincoln Riley or clamoring
or begging for him to stay even if he was
considering leaving. Probably not so. Uh. He hasn't done much
to make himself unexpendable, so to speak, like Pete Carroll did,
where everybody's like, what are we gonna do without Pete?
(38:11):
You know, he crippled us with sanctions. I don't think
that there's much. There's a lot of fervor to keep
Lincoln Riley if he was considering leaving it.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Like it feels like his stock is way down in
comparison to when he first got here.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Well, yeah, he got here and they brought Caleb Williams
and they won a bunch of games they couldn't. They
almost made that fourteen playoff but lost to Utah twice.
And after that Lincoln Riley said to everybody, this is
as bad as we're ever going to be. It's going
to be it's going to be off and running from here.
And then they ended up losing to Willie Fritz's two
(38:49):
lane team in the Cotton Bowl. And honestly, that was
the best UCLA has been in the Lincoln Riley era.
Maybe they're better this year, but that last, that first
year with Caleb Williams when he won the Heisman, was
the best he ever had here at USC And those
were all Clay Helton's guys mostly as far as just
(39:12):
the structure of the team other than Caleb, and what
is Addison, the receiver that they put Carson Palmer's retired
number on for like six.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Games, probably never paid as much as they told him
they were going to.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
But yeah, you heard that rumor, huh that that was
around that That was actually one of the worst Kevin rumors,
was how unhappy he was with.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Not getting paid what he was told.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
He'd be paid. So, yeah, welcome to La.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Well, Chad Boonen's there now, so that'll happen often.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Oh damn, I saw his dad in a Valure sweatsuit
at the World Series A whole bunch, that's true. But
he also has two toned hair. But either way, yes,
whatever the question was, the answer is yes.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, his is a stock is down. Now where's your
How do you feel about the UCLA leaving the Rose
Bowl to go to Sofi Stadium?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Story dumbest story in the dumbest idea in the world.
It's a corporate thing, and I guess they're deal with
the Rose Bowls really bad and they'd get no concessions
and all this. So even if they have to pay
the Rose Bowl off or go to court, I guess
they're still going to be in the black if they
move and they get a better piece of parking and
(40:35):
concessions and this or that. But UCLA's biggest problem is
that they don't have anything close enough to where the
kids can get drunk and walk over. And look, we've seen,
I've talked about this a whole bunch. We've seen. I
know Houston's having some attendance problems. But when they left
the Astrodome, which they were being swallowed up by, they
(40:58):
started to have a lot more success as a program.
Now they're in the Big twelve and having a great
year and two lane same thing. Once they left Lake
Poncha train and got out of the Supernome and built
it on campus Stadium again, their program thrived and is thriving.
And UCF I was just there. I just did the
(41:19):
space game, which I've never done anything like that. What
do you think I was dumbfounded, Brady, I've never seen anything.
And I've played a lot of places and called a
lot of games in a lot of places, and I understand,
you know, wideouts and blackouts, and he announced us the
grove and all these different things. I'd never ever seen
(41:42):
anything like the UCF Space Game. It was like a
theme game for college football with different uniforms, a whole
different format, a different mascot, the Citronaut, which was their
original mascot. I didn't know. It was originally opened as
a feeder school to the Kennedy Space Center, and it
(42:03):
was absolutely everybody was dressed like Bubba Fett or an
alien or a spaceman. Everybody had the space gear. They
had a different uniform with glowing the dark numbers that
celebrated hyperspace research. It was absolutely a spectacle.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Just imagine if the moon landing was real.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
But it was exactly You should have seen the moon
that night over Orlando. It really was. I've never experienced
anything like that in college football or calling a college
football game. You got to give UCF a ton of
credit for creating that whole thing because it is magic.
(42:47):
It really was. But anyway, UCF, who used to play
in the Camping World Stadium or the Citrus Bowl, they
moved and obviously it's been great for their program as well.
Should have a thirty five thousand person on campus stadium.
(43:08):
They actually have one there, it's called Drake Stadium that
they could build out and make cool for the kids.
Why don't they, Well a lot of reasons. Number one
Everything in La sucks. Number two, everything in West La
sucks a thousand times more, and you would have the
(43:32):
HOA in the sixties. I think the Hoas and everything
above UCLA on Sunset Boulevard, which is bel Air, would
fight at tooth and nail for parking and this and that.
But you could probably figure out like a Hollywood Bowl.
I mean they have poly pavilion which is about half
(43:54):
the size of a thirty five thousand person stadium or
maybe a little less than that, and you should be
able to figure out parking with like a Hollywood Bowl
style shuttle system or I'm not sure, but there's too
much red tape. And I mean at UCLA you have
to get seven signatures just to get a new pencil sharpener.
(44:16):
Anybody who wants to fire an assistant coach or do
something like that, it takes months because it ends up
in the grinding bureaucracy of the UC system and an
on campus stadium. We just look. They said they were
going to build a train here in southern California for
like a billion dollars twenty years ago, and I think
(44:39):
they built like seven yards of track and it's cost
a billion dollars. Some stupid thing like that. And the
train is like, you know, doesn't even get a first down,
it's like seven yards. And so basically we're too stupid
to figure anything out like that, like they can figure
out in New Orleans, Houston, or Orlando. And that's why
(45:03):
they don't have it. And you know, the thing is,
UCLA should play at the Rose Bowl, but they shouldn't
play all their games at the Rose Bowl. They should
have an on campus stadium where you play New Mexico
or Northwestern or whoever's in town. And then when you
play Ohio State or these Big Ten teams that have
huge fan bases and people want to come out to
(45:25):
the Rose Bowl and be there because it's a beautiful
setting for college football as we all know. Then you
play Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan whatever at the Rose
Bowl two or three times a year, USC if you
have them on the even years, they should play there.
But everybody's too stupid to figure that out. This is
(45:47):
a corporate move. And yes, is SOFI Stadium closer than
the Rose Bowl to UCLA, Yes, theoretically it is. But
at the same time you're talking about going the opposite
direction and one of the worst stretches of freeway in
the world. The four h five between Inglewood and Westwood,
(46:08):
and the parking is like one hundred bucks. Seventy five bucks.
You for pro football you have to be in a
special tailgate lot that cost over one hundred dollars to park.
The kids aren't going to go there either, So it's
it's it doesn't It seems like causing a solving a
(46:28):
problem with another problem. They should have an on campus stadium,
but there's too much red tape and too much bureaucracy
to get that to happen.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
Petro's what does the rose Bol host then outside of
the Rose Bowl if Uctilly is not hosting their home
games there.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Well, they have a flea market, an antique flea market
that's pretty big. They'll do concerts.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Is that it like a monthly thing?
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Now? Maybe you know that's a good question. I mean
the soccer, you know, international soccer, big, big soccer matches,
if like you know, real Madrid comes out here.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Stuff to say from an annual revenue.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Respective, I don't. I don't know what's going on in
the historic Arroyo Sikle, but I don't. I don't for
their deal with UCLA I mean, how big could that be.
It's six games or whatever.
Speaker 5 (47:24):
But I well, again there's not much attendance and whatnot,
so maybe.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Well they're having trouble. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean,
Jim Mora was the last coach and maybe it was
just about bring it back. He was. He's done great,
he's done a yeah he has. He was really kind
of the last coach to put sixty thousand or fifty
thousand people, which is much less than it holds, but
fifty sixty thousand people there consistently. That was Jim Mora,
(47:51):
and ever since then it's it's been a real struggle
to get anybody in there unless they're playing USC or
or some big just haven't been good.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
It's pretty disrespectful. You skip over the drone art show
that's going to be there this weekend at the road.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Okay, well there you go. There's some Yeah, check the
schedule that Jonas like he just did.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, the Turkey Trot as well too. Petros, quickly, do
you have a Are you calling a game this weekend?
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm going to Fresno. Oh yeah, versus Wyoming?
Get that try tip Homie. Yeah, everybody talks about the
try tip. I don't want to wait in line for
a sandwich.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
Though, I'll send a BA. That's a clat would do.
What tell me I'm wrong?
Speaker 4 (48:40):
I can't. I can't tell you you're wrong. I remember
doing a game with Joel. You'd smoke a cigarette right
before the game and send the PA for some It
all mad. Now you're gonna ruin his.
Speaker 5 (48:50):
By the way, I asked him that, and you threw
me under the bus completely. So I just want you
to know what do you mean. I'm not going into
it on the air. I'm just saying there was a lot.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
You just brought up the whole thing. You brought up Joel,
and then you brought up that's pretty Jonas. You got
to back me up there. He brought all of that up.
He did, and then he goes do it.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
I'll say it. Then I'll say it.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
No, no, no, no, please okay. But I just I
remember doing a game with Joel at Baylor. It was
a big game. It was Baylor Oklahoma, and and it
was like two hours before the game, right and we're
in the concourse parliaments. Uh, we weren't smoking at that point,
(49:42):
But I remember saying, Joel stop, I want to buy
a T shirt. It was like two hours before the
game and he's like, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
He went up into the booth.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
He couldn't wait for me, and I got into the
booth like thirty seconds after him, and I was like,
all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
And that would it would give him so much more
street cred if people knew about Rippon darts.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
But all right, Petro used to be a lot more
nervous before the games. Let's just put it.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
I think Gus loosened them up. Gus is listening them up.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
Well, you know that's a vape pin. That's a different.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Oh, Petros and money shows where you can hear Petros
alongside Matt.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Joe on one of those robot ds.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
On the blow towards a five seventy l A Sports.
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