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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here coming up on this Wednesday edition. Of course,
we got the usuals, the old p Petris, popadecas is
gonna stop by, and we've got our Midweek Awards. We're
also going to talk about the college football playoff rankings
and boy oh boy, did one team get screwed? Not
going well, Probably not gonna end well for one huge
fan base in the world of college football. Speaking of
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huge fan bases in the world of college football, what
is the latest on the Penn State head coaching search.
We're also going to have a conversation about a name
who all of a sudden, could be an interesting one
if this team in the NFL decides to move on. Plus,
we're gonna have another edition of In case you missed it,
and we got the usual fun stuff.
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feel in here on this Wednesday morning?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
What up?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Sticks?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I ain't seen you in weeks. I still ain't seeing you.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Sticks. How you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Man good? How you how's everything? How you guys doing?
Everybody good?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, I made it. I made it home.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But what we're saying, tell us your story.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
She was I don't know if it was a she,
I just in my mind. I don't I don't know.
I don't know who it was that was doing it. Somebody, Yeah, somebody,
I told you all the story. Somebody Dad, probably Dad.
On that that Southwest flight from Oregon, well this one yesterday,
somebody's uh intestines was dead, decaying oh no, oh, yes
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it was somebody died in their ass. And you know
I didn't know my seat mate because you know, I
fly the way. You know it wasn't There's only two seats,
so you know, I was, you know, attrition, pen were
sitting together. I'm sitting by myself. Cool, cool dude sitting
next to me. Like we ain't really talking I don't
really want to do. No a whole lot of talking.
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But we were cool, like you know, like cordial stuff
like that. The first time we got blue down, we
looked at each other and it was it was so bad,
you know how you know how you know it wasn't
you or like the person next to you, and like
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it hits you, like you could feel that it hit
you from behind, you know, like you could kind of
tell the direction of which the funk came from. Have
you ever been in a situation like that. I don't know.
I felt it like I felt I felt it hit
me from behind, like it wafted you from the back.
It overtook me, right. So so we look at each
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other and we clearly have the notion of it wasn't me. Yeah,
it wasn't me either, like and we both went into
our our shirts, like it was so bad that too big.
He was like a big dude. Two big grown ass men,
what a big dude put their faces in their shirts,
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like you're too old, like you said. I don't know
which one y'all said it, but you're too old to
be putting your shirt, your face in your shirt. I
kept my face in my shirt. I decide to take
my face out of the shirt maybe thirty forty minutes
after that. And don't you know it. In fact, I
think I do know who it was. It was this
big fella. He was like he had to be about
six five six six, and he was a little older.
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And I could tell by the way he was wearing
his pants that it had to be him, because when
he went into the restroom, when he came out, I
felt like that same smell. I felt like that same
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smell came out of the airplane restroom when he came
out of there. Now I can't confirm it with him
because it is an airplane restroom, so there could have
been someone that blew it up before him, Oh my god,
and he got it unfairly placed on him. But the
smell that that person, whoever you were, there's decay in
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your bi you have to go seek help for that,
like there's there's gotta be medicine, MRI. They gotta look
at your body, man, they gotta look at your body,
and they got to figure out what is going on
inside of your body, because if that is the smell
that you are generating, and I mean fart stink, like
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you get that fart stink, but you have a weak stomach,
like you'll got to but we oh, I was, I
was dry heaving. I was dry heaving. I was dry heaving.
It was. It was so rancid, bro, I don't even
I can't even it. It was so bad. I had
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to tell y'all in the moment. I mean, I've been
fart on before, like I've been hit. Everybody gets hit
in the airlines. It made me feel like I will
never have I will never have an accidental flagellation on
a plane after that. How about never worse than lee, Bro?
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It was this was the worst smell, like I'm telling you,
like something died and was sitting in the heat mixed
with some trains.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Back in the old days, and the guy who smelled
the worst was was viewed as like almost like superhuman,
like it was something where human. Yeah, way back in
the day, guys who who would toot her fart and
their smell was like wretched, Like they were looked at
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us like though, that's the guy you want to start
a family with, Like that's the prize of the town.
And so they would go into like you know these
you know, you go in those cottages as bars, and
you know, you think way back when they're all drinking
some ale, there'd be dudes just lighting that place up
and really they're like trying to court the women. And
it was like a it was like a fart off,
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you know where like the guy that's smelling his fart.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Is I really that was the guy that There's no
way that's true false history. There's some way look it up.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
It's one hundred percent tury.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean somehow I feel like there's some way there's
there's truth to it. I mean, think about it.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
The stens to someone's fart. At one point in humanity
was viewed as you were like superhuman.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
If that was the case, I found it hard to
believe it, but I found it to have some truth
to it. There's some people that just.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Have no regard like they don't see it as an issue,
Like they'll cut a fart in public, and that's they're
just okay with that. I think I told you guys
the story. I went to this this Indian food restaurant,
and the owner, who's a buddy of mine, literally cut
I'm waiting to order food to go. I'm standing at
the register. The guy cuts a fart, takes the to
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go menu out of my hand, waves the fart behind him,
and then he hands it back to me and says,
what can I get you?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Hand it handed you the fart way ran back to
me and said what can I get you? And I
was so.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Astonished at his lack of understanding and self awareness that
I just said.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, just keep ordering. Why not? I just don't care.
I just don't understand if the first one has people
reacting the way that they did, because it was like
a collective, like you know, how you hear it? Like
it just went through the whole cabin, like how do
you do it again? Maybe they were getting joy out
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of it. Maybe it's like watch me move the crowd
like a rapper.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Maybe they had a really bad tummy ache and they
just needed to get it out.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
You know, yeah, but that's yeah, get up, get the
daring takeoff?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Though?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Was it enough time you couldn't stand? No? No, no,
it's nasty then okay no, And and Lorena like, don't
don't make me feel like you're that person that's on
the plane doing that. Oh, I would never, I would never.
I just don't even use plane restrooms because they scare me.
They're too small. Imagine being my size, can you even
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fit in the one? It's if you saw the way
I can't even imagine what Q would have to look
like getting in one of those places, if you saw
the way I had to do it to be able
to pull it off. And first of all, I never
sit down. I think I think I had one emergency
ever in my entire life. I'm always wait from point
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A back to point A like I go to point B,
C D. It doesn't matter. I'm not going to the
restroom that way unless I'm at point A like I
gotta be at home generally. But there's one time I
had to sit down in a in an airplane. But
I will not sit down in an airplane toilet like,
I won't do it. But standing up in it is wow,
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like you gotta put your head to the side, you
gotta pull the shoulder up, you gotta put one shoulder down,
you gotta lean off to the right. It just is
what it is. You thought it was being an athlete
on a football field. Watch a dude that's oversize and
you turn yourself out. Yeah, I can't even imagine. You
said you'd be taking your kids in there, you'd be
having to take your kid. I don't even Yeah, you
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said you've had to take your kids in the I
don't know how you do it. What are they gonna do? Bro,
I don't know. I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
How would you do? I'm sending this, uh, I'm sending
this as proof of the hierarchy of of farting and
all that.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
This is crazy. The Ozzy child, Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I mean just those back in the Middle Ages.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
He just knocking down all the laughs, that pretty mother
lover like the way he smell, and they all want him, huh,
the Winches, see, the Winches wanted him. So basically that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You were the guy like you were the if you smelled,
you would you would be like you would be rewarded
for that.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
So if if body odor from a guy was what
what represented like masculinity and the guy you wanted? What
did that mean for the the girl? What was hert
what was hurt? Was her smell supposed to be armpits?
(11:20):
I'm gonna stay away. Why because you went to the armpit? Well, yeah,
that was that's also a thing like that was. Yeah,
I get it. Yeah, there's there's some women now that
go with the hairy armpit.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well, I thought you were talking about like what they
say down by the pier.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
That exactly. I'm sure there's a lot of grass down
there at that pier, like Butcher's shrubbery, like overgrown weeds
and dandelions.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
You know, we had a fish market, Well, hey, that
could have been considered to be beautiful and amazing the
fish you.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Know, Well, I mean, who in the college football playoff
ranking is going to be going fishing?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Imagine?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Imagine good transition. Good transition.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
By the way, if.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You're if you're a Notre Damn fan, you are getting
screwed right now. I mean to move up Bama and
the justification behind it. I mean, let me just say
two things. Okay, I'll start off with a Bama conversation.
There is no reason no way that they should have
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moved up for their win over Auburn. I mean that
game they're talking about how they're they're up, you know
whatever at halftime seventeen that whatever it was, and then
Auburn almost came back like they damped there. Could have
won that game, and yet they get the credit because
it's a rivalry game, which I'm like, all right, well,
Notre Dame beat the life out of Stanford, that's also
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technically a rivalry game. They play for a jeweled salie,
but yet they get no credit in doing so. And
now Notre Dame finds themselves in a position where what
honestly probably should have always mattered was the head to
head with Miami. But the funniest thing about this entire
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situation is I don't think BAM is even worth being
a playoff team. I think they've been kind of protected
by the committee. I'd rather see both Miami Notre Dame
in but everyone seems to think that until Miami and
Notre Dame are right next to each other, right they're
not right now? But if BYU gets knocked down loses
in the Big twelve championship game, then Miami would slide
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up next to Notre Dame, be right next to each other,
so then you'd have to use head to head. Like,
what are you talking about? Why is the committee? Why
are they gonna use head to head? Now they played
Week one? If you're gonna put Miami ahead of Notre Dame,
I should have always been ahead of Notre Dame. How
does it make any sense? Like Louisville beat Miami, they're
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both seven and two. The College Football Playoff Committee ranked
Miami five spots ahead of Louisville. Make it make sense.
It's the dumbest thing that like we do with this committee.
It's like they're like, oh, well now it matters. It's like, really,
now it matters. It's a joke. We honestly should go
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back to the BCS system. The BCS system was honestly
a really fun system to be a part of, and
it would have been better for a four to twelve
team playoffs, sixteen team playoff, whatever number you want to
put out there, because it eliminates the ass hats that
like throw out that like no justification for what they do.
What it's just it is. It's just it is what
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it is. I'm sorry, man, Like I just I lest
of them go, well, yeah, it was a good win
for Alabama?
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Did anyone watch the second half of that game? Did
you turn it off at halftime? And by the way,
there's Obama team that can't run the football defensively, their
leaky as all get out. I mean, you can't feel
good about that if you're a Bama fan. And by
the way, many people feel like they're in regardless of
the outcome in the SEC Championship game. It's like, okay,
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what are we doing here? Like now, all of a sudden,
the games don't matter. By the way, I don't even
know if BYU is out, if they lose the Texas Tech,
they'd be eleven and two, Like all of a sudden,
they deserved to be get knocked out by I mean,
the whole entire system is to the point where you're like,
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you're like, all right, we either need expansion, but let's
bring in computers because humans can't do it. It's like
everyone in every corporation's trying to get to AI because
they like watch the Human Worker. They're like, oh gosh,
what are they gonna have a robot fast enough to
come replace this guy? Like that's that's how you feel
with college football and the rankings right now?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, how do you put the information?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
How does the like I guess it would have to
be weighted off of what what conference you're in? Or
how do you weight the strength to sket how do
you how do you input it for a computer to
be able to do it?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
That would be added it with the BCS. And here's
the thing that I liked about the BCS. It wasn't
like just one computer system. It was not only did
it take into account and a people which is a
human voting system. It would take into account I believe,
the AP, the coaches, as well as all the different
computer systems. So it was really a composite ranking based
off all sorts of different data points and inputs. And
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the reason why I keep going back to that is
it eliminates what would be a twelve person committee which
have all sorts of biases, all sorts of reasons to
a sure themselves five teams get in from the SEC.
Why would that be what everyone thinks is a conspiracy theory. Well,
because ESPN has all the rights to the college football playoff,
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so it would be who of them for the one
conference they own out exclusively, which is the SEC and
is their biggest conference to have the most teams in
because those teams get money back for having the most
teams in. They get more money than any other conference.
So like when ESPN and the SEC and the College
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Foball Playoff Committee, when they don't want people to say, well,
this seems odd or this seems like a conspiracy theory.
It looks like you're stacking the deck in your favor.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
You are.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
There was no justification to jump a team when both
teams won and one was more dominant than the other,
Like it would have made more sense to jump Bama
if they win versus Georgia this upcoming week, then it
makes sense to jump them. Why now, why do this
past week?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Even the even Davis who's with ESPN is talking to
Hunter your check and he's like trying to make sense
of it, Like Joey Gallop, like even those guys who
work for ESPN were trying to come to like trying
to understand the rationale behind it, and they just couldn't
really get a straight answer. It just kept going back
too Well, we're going to figure it out after conference
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championship play.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's like, Okay, it's.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Like, okay, to do do one ranking, do one ranking
the entire season. Let's let us go off the eight
people and we'll see what the group comes up with.
But again, I even go back to Miami fans being
frustrated with their win over not Name. I get it
because if the situation was reversed, I'm sure this many
Notre Dame fans would be like, wait, why we beat
we beat Miami and why are we ranked behind them?
So I sit there and look at that and go,
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are you really gonna wait for the very last ranking
the season to go?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, now it matters. They're both ten and two, Like
if you were gonna move to the head, why not now?
Because they need to be right up next to them.
I had one of our coworkers go, well, there's a
bubb for I go, oh, the buffer, That's what did it?
B yu? The buffer? But as soon as Miami and
Notre Dame but right next to each other, that's what
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we could compare them, Like are we serious? Is this
like an adult conversation for how we're going to handle
a college football playoff? This whole thing is the stupidest
thing I've ever like listened to when people try to
explain for the committee that again or exactly a bunch
of ass hats without the Cobalt ranking this thing, Brady
(19:31):
and I say, I say ass hat because I just
I remember the visual of them taking their hat off
and then hanging it up on like the hat stand
or a coat stand, whatever it was, and they're like,
they're like, there, their work is done. You know, they
took their hat off to go Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, I just don't know how to ask God into there, though,
Like how did it become ass with the hat? It's
kind of I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
We should look up the origin of that. I mean,
I've been trying to educate you guys on flatulence and
now now apparently we're staying with the stand with the rectum.
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Speaker 1 (20:31):
I'm old enough to be your uncle girlfriend. Dang, she's
the mama getting old.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Hell yeah, and I do, by the way, have the
origin of ass hat?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
What is it? What you got? Well, I'll wait, I'll waitak.
I mean Johnas needs to get the breaks, Okay, it's important.
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Speaker 1 (23:24):
Bob Thornton, Bro, you kind of talk like him, you
kind of look like him. Bro, What the F what? Bro?
I'm looking at him right now. He just made a
facial expression on guy looked like Billy Bob Thornton. Bro.
I got, I mean, hell yeah, I got to look
(23:47):
up this man's face. Listen. He's a lot older than
he's older.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And now listen, know what Billy pop Thorne is.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Listen, Buddy, you off your f and men to kind
of look like him. Yes, but that is not the point.
Oh my goodness, is this your uncle?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Oh my goodsh It's close, man, I know, Billy Bob Thornton,
he looks just like you. You're bad, Santa, ridiculously You're
not like a doppel ganger.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
But it's close. It is close, right, very close.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I don't know who put up that picture of us three,
but I looked like a cross eyed James Vanderbeek and
like that is.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Not yet like the AI generated cowboy hats.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Were doing here. Let me see this Dawson's River Kids
or whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, it's a lot going on there.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
By the way, the origin of ass hat it just
it doesn't really come from anything other than like using
that groups in the late nineties two thousands, which was
a phrase to have one's head up one's ass literally
picturing as an ass hat. So that is the deepest
origins that apparently it's not that old, like this is
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something that kind of started in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Sweet yeah, Joan As you actually look tough in your picture. Q.
You look like you're like a quick draw.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
No across side James S. Vander By. If I have
a quick draw, I am not hitting anything on target
because with those eyes in that picture, I'd be missing left, right, up, down.
I'm not sure which I works.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I can't see and I get Samuel L all the time.
Now in this picture, I look like Samuel I'll take it.
I got that.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
At the time people walk up to you, I have
a like Samuel the dude from sixth cents.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
We're Samuel L. You know. I got a cousin that
really looks exactly like Samuel L. Jackson, Like literally could
pass for his stunt double. He looks so much like Samuel.
So it's in my family that look. But I've gotten mistaken.
I don't know how, but I have gotten mistaken for
Samuel L. Jackson. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Has that ever played to your benefit?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
No, I've never tried to play anything. Yeah, No, not really.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Okay, I've heard stories of dudes who are like, yeah,
I mean they thought I was in and you took advantage.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah I did, not me IOUs, but well maybe you tried.
Maybe he was just a lighter version. You know, Sammy
Sosa did it. You know, Michael Jackson did it. Yeah,
but he's back, the very lego they try to call it. Yea,
all right, Oh he's back, he's back, he got a skin,
skin color back, he's back. Good for him, man, I
think that's what the cobs we're waiting on. I mean,
(26:22):
look at Al Sharpton now, like Q, I'm sitting in
Fox Sports Radio and there's a show with Al Sharpton
on One TV and the Color Purple, the original movie
Color Purple with Oprah Winfrey and Whoopy Goldberg. Danny Glover
is on television. I don't know what's going on here.
Fox Sports Radio, I don't know what's going on here,
(26:42):
Man Larada, Can we lighten things up in here? We
clearly it's clearly, don't you know it is a little
dark on these screens. Yeah yeah, little friends, Yeah no,
we wouldn't do that. I mean, I think it's better
than charm. For one, I think the world is better
with a chubby or Al Sharpton. I'm sorry the skinny
oular been with the big hit. That's that's like, I
don't know how I feel about it. But but the
(27:04):
chubby owl sharped and with with the perm I think
the world's a better place with with with the chubby.
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Speaker 7 (27:55):
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Speaker 2 (27:55):
Some some bad news here, Colonie a hokey Yeah, he's going.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
To stay at YU so Penn State.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
You know, they focused heavily on him potentially being the guy.
And that lasted about twenty one and a half hours.
And now we are on to somebody else in the
longest head coaching search in the history of college sports.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So and to that point, I will say this about
college football, it's the best. For this reason, some BYU
fans are sending Pat Kraft, the athletic director at Penn State,
a bunch of Crumble cookies, just like a huge order
(28:44):
of Crumble cookies headed to the athletic facility.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I told you, I told you four miles away.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I looked it up yesterday, the Mormon Cookie Company four
miles away from Penn State.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Mike, Mike from Millville, who is the biggest lead to
less groupie in the world. You you this was a
good one. This so we've run out of coaching option.
So we're going to hire lead to Lap as our
football coach. It's your best it's your best post, it's
your best one. Like the other stuff gets a little tiring,
(29:17):
like we get it you, we get where you're coming from.
But that's a pretty good.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
We've got it. We've got to development. By the way,
on call sheet, am I calling that right? Cal she
call she whatever that's getting site is but cal she
heartline now is the favorite? Terry Smith Terry Smith's second,
and Jeff Brom now down to twenty three percent. Uh no,
excuse me, Brian Dabele's the favorite. I don't know how
this thing did you show that? Brian Dable's the favorite,
(29:44):
Brian Hartline right behind him, Terry Smith than Jeff Brom.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
But Matt Campbell his name has surfaced into the mix,
which quite honestly, Matt Campbell and Brent Key should have
been more a part of this mix sooner. Matt bores
way down. Var's guy.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Matt Campbell's name has been in every Big Time opening
over the past what five six years? Every year his
name comes up. Everybody seems to love that guy, and
he just yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I honestly, it's like, and with the resources and everything
they're at Penn State, it would make all the sense
in the world. But again, university is going to university.
You know they're going to hire someone to get the
fire soon.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Can I ask you a question, LeVar because and I
and this is not.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Because I want to ask you because I was I
was thinking about this if and it's hypothetical, but if
pat Craft and Penn State knew that this is what
this search was going to look like and end up like,
would they have still fired James Franklin?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I mean, why would that be a question for me?
Why would I know the answer? Why would why would
I know the answer to that question? Well, I mean
you're closely connected, dude.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You can you can you can literally answer the question
of like, yeah, I don't think this is what we
thought was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I don't know. I don't have that answer. I don't
know anything about what's going on with this.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
How about you, Okay, how about your perspective when you
guys fired James Franklin, Yes, did you think this is
how it would turn out?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Uh? I never really gave it too much thought, to
be honest. I just looked at it I looked at
it as now I have, because there's a lot of
noise and it's uncomfortable. You know, it's uncomfortable for guys
who are really really tapped into the program. It's it's
(31:48):
uncomfortable right now to have to hold the line, which
that's what I do. I look at it like this, right,
like did the time come? I really believe that it
was it? And I don't like feeling like I'm kind
of taking a shot at coach Franklin because he's a
(32:11):
fine man. He's a fine coach and I really respect
him a lot, like I really like him as a person.
But if there was going to be a time where
you looked at what was going on and said, like
we got to move on from this, it was probably
that that three game stretch that took place, So well,
(32:34):
keep going, what is it? Oh? I don't know what.
I just don't know this song? Dieah? I do know
this song. Do you know the song? Dum dut? I
know I know the song. I don't really know the words,
though I know.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
The world a problem. Then that's a problem. Then we
have to wait to the chorus.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I don't know where we're going with this. Just keep going,
I don't know where we're going.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Here, cold out. Hold on now, it's not.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Who we're going with this, it's.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Not in the way you look.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, what what.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Hold the line?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
More?
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Hold the line because I'm always on time? Who's on time?
On time? I think hold the line. Okay, yeah, hold
the line. You gotta hold the line because it's on time. Yeah,
I think that's relevant. Hold the line because it's going
to be right on time. Whoever gets the job is
(33:42):
going to have a job to do. And my whole
thing is like our fan base is like you know,
the people that are out there putting it out there
on social media and stuff like that, and even the media.
I mean there's it's like they're going to do their
due diligence. They're they're going to I I just don't
feel like because people place the pressure to make a
(34:05):
quick decision that he has to do that. Like I
respect Pat Kraft for going through the process of it all.
I Mean there's names of people who have interviewed that
haven't even been brought up, and they are quality, quality candidates.
Like there's one name.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I can't look at this website, by the way, like
he went from Brian diable being the clear favorite. Now
Hardline is the clear favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
There's names that haven't even been mentioned that are fine,
quality candidates for the job. And so I just I
just sit back. They're just a good name. That's a
strong name. It's a good name anyway. All I'm saying is,
I mean, you pulled one name out. I mean, but
that was a name that hasn't been brought up. You
brought that one up, and it's a good name.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
You brought it up yesterday you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Well, then I would have been the only one mentioning
it because nobody else mentions it. But we've met.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Here's what I say about it. We've mentioned a lot
of names. I mean, we've mentioned Joe Brady, We've mentioned Drinkowitz,
We've mentioned Herba Meyer's name, Sataki Debor. I think I
said Golish at one point, Antonio Pieris, Bob Chesney, Andy Diaz,
Lincoln Riley, Brent Key, Matt Rule, Matt Campbell, now Jeff Campbell,
Terry Smith, br Do. We've named literally everyone that could
(35:19):
be a possible candidate. I've even said Gruden. I've Gruden's
name out there. I will at this point, I don't
know how many more people you can actually interview.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I mean as many as it takes many.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
This is like Van Wilder at a sorority party, just
running through whatever he wants to. This is what that,
That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I think they're doing a thorough job of how they're
going about doing it, and I believe who will end
up being the head coach will be the one that
was supposed to end up being the head coach. Hold
the line, Hold the line. Yeah, I mean a lot
of people are like.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Say, coaching job isn't always on the town.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They're melting down, you know, people are having moments. Noise pollution.
It's noise pollution.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I'm just I'm just comfortably just comfortably waiting. There's a banger,
just a little Toto. It's comfortably just comfortably await this
is Toto, dude. That yeah, it's didn't know. I didn't
know the words of it.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Everyone basically knows, like Toto for Africa, and they forget
they did a few other bangers in there too.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Then they sing, Roxanne, didn't Toto do rockneyeh see you're.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
On it, Roxanne police I think they did?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Dude. Oh wait, yeah, it's another one. Though, it's not
rocks Anne. It's uh, it's another chick though, no, no, no, no, no,
it's another chick. I just said that, Yeah, you always said, no, no,
it's it's it's a it's a chick's name. I was
talking about the TVs. Oh, Pamela, not Pamela, it is
(37:00):
rock Sanne. I was like, we're not that close enough,
far close enough, close enough. Anyway, we're close to and
when and when it happens, it'll be right on time.
I mean, I just I can't find.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It to hear who it is of all the names
we've listed, like we had to got one of them, right, right,
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I don't know, Okay, if it's if it if it
is Terry Smith said fifteen names, if it's I mean
you said twenty thirty. Like, I don't know, I don't
know who it is.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
If it's Terry Smith, if he ultimately gets the gig,
will that be seen as a letdown by the Penn
State community who wanted James Franklin.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Out the door. I just think it creates a lot
of interesting conversation. If it's if it's Terry.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Smith, I'll answer that question yes. I think the idea
when they fired James Franklin was that they were gonna
move on from this, what this has been, and you
move on to something that's got a track record, that's
got something that's proven, that's got something that's gonna get
you over the hump. And even though Terry Smith is
(38:15):
an awesome dude, could be a great coach, he doesn't
have that track record, And so to then put your
program in the hands of someone who is unknown, I
think often by the way, he could turn out to
be a great head coach. But oftentimes, if the question
is is the fan base is gonna be disappointed? Hell yeah?
By the way, what name did I just mention? Would
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the fan base be excited about? Brian Dieble just got
fired by the Giants. He's never been a head coach
in college football. There'll be questions about that, you know, hardline.
I think they'd be excited about. He's done a tremendous
job this year with the Ohio State. Great recruiter. He
could be that young, hot next you know name that
builds him up. Matt Campbell's had a lot of success,
that would be a good one. Brent Key at a
lot of success outside of that, like Joe Brady probably
(39:01):
taking a risk on a guy who's young, hasn't been
a head coach, so that'd be an interesting thing. Maybe
you'd say Kaitlin Deboor if you could get him, even
though it doesn't seem likely, especially now that it looks
like Bama's for sure gonna be in the playoff no
matter what, thanks to our ESPN College Feet Playoff Committee.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
What about Chip Kelly?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
No, I mean Florio throughout you know Kentucky potentially being
interested in Chip Kelly.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
We gotta rap.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Hell, yeah, I'd love to see that. We gotta rap,
but they already signed will Stein. Will Stein's basically done there.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
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and subscribe. All right, So it appears that the football
in Pennsylvania is not happy with their their head coaches.
That's like a Pennsylvania thing, like a PA thing. Nick
Sirianni's getting it every week, even though he just won
(41:08):
a Super Bowl. We obviously talked about the Penn State situation,
and then there's Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Going at Tomlin. Yeah, a lot of people coming for Tomlin.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
He was on the Football and Podcast with Ben Roethlisberger
and he had this to say. He also had an
idea that might solve another issue within the state.
Speaker 8 (41:27):
And I know it's it's being talked about around here
a lot. Maybe it's time. Maybe it's a clean house time.
Maybe it is. Maybe it's time. And I like coach Tomlin.
I have a lot of respect coach Tomlin. But maybe
it's best for him too. Maybe maybe a fresh start
for him is what's best, whether that's in the pros,
whether maybe go be Penn State's head coach. You know
what he would do in Penn State. He'd probably go
win national championships.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I wouldn't hate that. I wouldn't hate that. I mean
he would own that.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I see what you're waiting for. That's what you're waiting for.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I wouldn't I get it. Now, that would be that
would excite the fan best. Whoa yeah, whoa, that would
be deep.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Now that's a plot twist I had not thought about.
Gotta be honest, with you there. Yeah, but I will
say this, looking at the way Pickens is playing in Dallas,
he is their best player. He is Dallas's best player.
Dak is their best player, Dak is their highest paid player.
(42:33):
Pickens is their best player. Then it starts like then
you start to run down the history of receivers in Pittsburgh.
And I don't want to make this a conversation about
receivers in Pittsburgh. I want to make this about culture
in Pittsburgh. And I've heard a lot of things, like
(42:54):
doing the show with Plex on the weekend, like just
certain things that are said, and there's been like this
slow erosion of what Steeler culture was and what it
represented when Rob Woodson and Cornell Lake and those type
of guys were in Pittsburgh. I think we're at a
(43:16):
critical mass point at Mike Tomlin's career as the Pittsburgh
Steeler coach because he has done it his way. He's
been able to do it his way. He's had success
doing it his way, but that success has not led
to getting to the super Bowl or being Super Bowl
(43:42):
competitive for quite some time. And I think the indictment
at this point on Mike Tomlin is a simple one.
I ultimately think there's a strong possibility that he hit
his ceiling in Pittsburgh. And so, okay, I mean, these
things happen. He's had a great run. I'm not saying
(44:05):
it's over. I'm not saying he's losing his gig. I'm
just saying the conversations are going to continue to get intense.
I mean, Aaron Rodgers looks like literally of front an
assisted living home quarterback, like oh no, oh no. I
mean the faces he was making when he was getting hit,
(44:27):
like his body posture, it looked like they like he
passed away six weeks ago. Come on, man, like Joe
Biden like they also they're controlling him through AI. Man,
they're controlling Aaron Rodgers through AI. He ain't gonna make it.
Aaron Rodgers is not going to make it. And then
(44:47):
and and if he does, I think they're I think
they're still going to fall off the tracks. Man, And
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
What that is.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Can I throw this theory out there? As we listened
to a old Frank Sinatra My way, which I mean, look,
if Tomlin is out, he did do it his way,
you know. And I gotta say, I love Mike Tomlin. Well,
it's one of those coaches were played against him. I
didn't like him then, but very much respected him. But
always that coach that you wish you could have played
(45:18):
for as a player, just to be in that culture,
of that environment.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
As the NFL has adapted and changed, I think it
also has impacted the way in which the Pittsburgh Steelers
have built their their brand, their franchise, and that is
are like toughness, gritty, good like smash mouth defense and
(45:46):
a physical running attack that's complimented through the years to
the history by you know, playmakers and when it's Lynn
Swann or whoever else do you want to point to
in the passing game, I mean, obviously when I first
got the league, those guys like Hines Ward, right, san
Antonio Holmes has arguably the greatest catch ever largely yeah,
(46:07):
but it was largely Heines.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
But is y It's important come on, I go as this.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
As this league has changed into a passing league, into
a league that you no longer can impose your will
on quarterbacks, on players like the Steel Curtain once did.
I think it's kind of hurt Pittsburgh a little bit,
and even more so the fact that, like, you know,
I don't know. I just I look at how these
rosters are built, and it's like you used to have
(46:38):
these smash mouth, physical teams that just beat you up.
It just it's not really how the game is anymore.
And I and I know since Ben, really you can
just attribute it to that you had a Hall of
Fame quarterback in Ben Roethlisberger and that's when the slide started.
And really, but if you look at the regular season,
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like they've still been able to to survive with Tomlin.
I mean, he's never had a losing season, so I
kind of go back to that and just go he's
been incredibly consistent. But I do think as far as
winning Super Bowls, if you look back to two thousand
and what an eight was the last time they won one. Yeah,
the league has continually gotten you know, I wan't want
(47:20):
to say softer, but it's been harder for defenses to
impose their will the way the Steelers once did with
the hard hits and everything else that goes along with him.
I just I just think it's interesting when you look
at some of the teams, so it's in bet go
back to the last time that Baltimore Ravens won the
Super Bowl. I mean you start you start really looking
(47:41):
at it and dissecting and the ball. Bolton has always
been known for the defense, and it's been what thirteen
years as a twenty twelve when they won with Flacco. Yeah,
I mean a lot of the teams that I think
based their identity based the foundation of who they are
on their defense, on that physical, smash mouth, you know, punching,
the style of play, they've been hurt the most because
(48:04):
of the limitations to how they can impact the game
and impact the quarterback position. Well.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
I mean also the team from that division that's been
to the Super Bowl, most recently Cincinnati, and as we've documented,
it's not exactly defensive minded all the way through there
in SINCI.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
So no, if anything, like they're in about more you know,
beats you with being able to outscore you. And that's
unfortunately like what now in the NFL wins the Kansas
City Chiefs. They've got good defense, But I don't think
we look at the Chiefs defense as you know, one
of the most physical, one of the best, especially not
this season in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I just I don't think the way it ends with
Tomlin I don't think as a firing. I think there's
some sort of a conversation, a this has run its course,
We're going to let you leave. Yeah, well, but I
would say that ended. I don't know, man, that seemingly
ended pretty ugly. You think they would.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I don't think it ends ugly just because you lose
your job based upon, you know, reasons given, which would
most likely be they want to go in a different
direction to see if they can get the team back
to being a super Bowl contender.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
I mean he's been there eighteen years.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Let's be clear. I mean the super Bowl team. A
lot of those guys were inherited. He came in and
inherited that team. So as he moved forward, he has
maintained the line. But here's to me, I think where
the rubber meets the road. And it's funny because I
feel like Ben is able to lean in on things
(49:38):
that he says because they haven't had a Ben Roethlisberger.
Since Ben Roethlisberger has left, they have not been able
to figure out how to develop a quarterback that can
lead the way the way that he did, which, by
the way, that inherited team that Mike Tomlin got had
(50:00):
leadership on the team like Fanica, like Jerome Bettis and
the hinz Ward, like you had some some really really
fine guys that were there to help lead and teach
and help guide and mold Ben Roethlisberger into what he
ultimately became. You don't have that right now in Pittsburgh.
(50:24):
Who do you have on that offense that would be
that type of a resource, that type of an influence,
that would understand the game, respected in the game, has
had success in the game, and is imparting that knowledge
and giving you, you know, parameters and making sure you
have guardrails up so you don't go off the edge.
You don't have that anymore in Pittsburgh. Well, how good
(50:45):
is the roster because like it's questionable. I mean this
idea that if you're gonna get Dad, they need to
they need to change a coach. Okay, what about a
change on the roster because they probably should have drafted
the air apparent to Roethlisberger while Roethlisberger was still there,
and they didn't.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
They Kenny Pickett stuff was a disaster. Rogers looks completely
beat up and banged up, and we knew coming into
the season their schedule is going to be pretty daunting.
It just there was an opportunity for them to take
control of the division, and none of these possibilities involving
Cincinnati or Baltimore making a run and having a legitimate
shot would even exist if they weren't what starting off
(51:23):
the year four and one, I think they're two and
five since. And that's not all because of Mike Tomlin.
Maybe the roster's just not very good. Yeah, but it
falls at the feet of the head coach and.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
The GM and they just haven't they haven't been able
to turn the corner. I'm just being honest. They haven't
been able to turn the corner since the end days
of Ben Roethlisberger. The biggest, the biggest detracting factor that's
connected to the Pittsburgh Steelers is their inept offense. They
have not been able to generate offense again. And Ben
(51:57):
Roethlisberger was a part of that offense going away and
his in his last days he was not effective as well,
and they've been looking for a replacement ever since and
they have not been able to do it.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
I would also say, though liked this to me, at
least they've been kind of known a little bit for
their physicality the line of scrimmage, like their offensive line
has been somewhat deteriorated during those hey days when I
think they were most dominant there, physical upfront, and whether
you go back to Jerome Bettis and the bus or
Le'Veon Bell or I mean even or Sean Menenhall, you know,
(52:30):
kind of had his seasons, had his time there. You
can go through the years at some of the different
guys who towed the rock for them and.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
Fought to a Mama falla sure fast Willie Parker, he
want Willie p Yeah, yeah, Willy.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Never forget Romeo crdell, set the edge, build a wall,
don't let fast Willy get.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
Outside, get outside. It's a blur, bro it was.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
It was over he always just and we did do it.
We did set the edge, he wrote Cornell. He's so
mad about that because he felt like that's all you
had to do to stop Willie po Man. Set the wall.
Just don't let him get outside. But you get my point,
like this this to me, this offense again, I keep
going back to the identity. The identity of the Steelers
(53:17):
has always been defense. It's always been physicality, and that's
on both sides of the ball. The passing game has
been a compliment to it, but it's not what this
franchise is built off of. And as the league has adapted,
it's kind of left behind a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers,
I feel like, at least in regards to it being
a super Bowl winning franchise, And people can take issue
with that, say whatever you want, Like I just it's
(53:38):
been since two thousand and eight since you won a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
I mean, they haven't won a playoff game since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
Like they just always have had so much balance that
was and guys have always fit in. Ryan chazy Er
was on that team, Like it's a long ass time,
a long time, man. It just it just doesn't look
the same, it doesn't feel the same. And so it's
this does.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
Is So there's this saying like just change for change's sake,
which I'm never a fan of, but I do believe
that at some point, you know, stuff just kind of
runs its course.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
You got you gotta build a new identity. I mean,
you don't have to build so much a new identity.
There just has to be a new approach to how
you do it. That's what I would maybe and maybe
I'll just say it this way. Maybe I'll just say, like,
there just has to be a new energy.
Speaker 3 (54:35):
Like a different influence that comes in there to get
it going back where it needs to. You know. Like
sometimes that I'm not saying Mike Toman doesn't bring in energy,
doesn't bring in, you know, the vigor to coach. I
just I feel like at some point it's just time
time maybe for him to move on, time for the
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organization to move on and just get something fresh, something new,
something and look. And sometimes like that ends up being
like you figure out, like, Okay, this isn't it either,
we need to go and find something else. But I
do feel like it's not change for change's sake, because
clearly something needs to change, and there's still a lot
of football left to be played this season. So I
don't want to like throw in the towel. But if
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they didn't move on, I would kind of understand why
and not. I mean, obviously he's been incredibly successful, but
they feel like if their aspirations are to win a
Super Bowl, I don't know that they feel like they're
getting any closer to that. It feels like we're more
just surviving to have that winning season and then hoping
that when we get into the playoffs we can be
good enough to just find this magical run. And I
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don't know, I don't think it works like that anymore.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
They smell like a one and done if they get
to the post. Him to Penn State, though, Oh wow,
that really brain after me, man, I was really sitting
there thinking about this during this segment. What would that
look like?
Speaker 7 (56:01):
Be awesome? Wait a second, that's who it is. My gosh,
you've been holding out on us this whole time. That's
why is he even an option on what's that site?
Calci or Kelsey whatever?
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Col shit. I don't know why you keep saying it wrong.
You're the one who told me how to pronounce it.
He's not, so.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Maybe we'll be after this segment. You know, lines were
moving yesterday when you guys are talking about it, So
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Skate USA dot com all right, So coming up next year,
we are going to round it up, all right, not southwest,
not the cattle, another kind of rounding up that'll be
yours here on Fso well, when you're rounding up on
game days, you know it's easy, but what about them
other days?
Speaker 1 (57:07):
That's all right. When you add that hand crafted tang
of the original Louisiana hot sauce to your food, it
doesn't matter what day it is. It becomes a little
more like game day. Poor that hand crafted recipe on pizza,
and you'll feel like leaping up from the recliner to clap.
You know, you know what it feels like. Okay, let's go. Yeah,
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but it wasn't for the game. Oh you looked around,
No game was on the television, but there was hot
sauce on your food. That's right. It got you excited.
And you know what, you'll hit that euphoria when your
team's wide out toe drags for a touchdown. Oh yeah,
dash that simple three ingredients of the original Louisiana hot
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sauce onto your plate and you'll know what toe tap
swag is. Whoa hot.
Speaker 5 (58:02):
Good?
Speaker 1 (58:03):
And I'll tell you what they've been doing it for
one hundred years close to it, the legacy of turning
winning dishes into championship ones. The original Louisiana Hot Sauce
is that kind of deal, and listen, doesn't matter what
day it is, doesn't matter what colors of your team wears.
You fire up that grill, you grab some original Louisiana
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Hot sauce, and you add a little game day to
every day that came from your boy LeVar. Make sure
you go get you some Louisiana Hot sauce, by you
some