January 30, 2019 • 41 mins
Clay Travis is live from Radio Row in Atlanta and shares a story from the NFL Media Event on Tuesday night. Also, Clay is joined by former Colts punter Pat McAfee and Denver Broncos RB Phillip Lindsay!
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We are rolling into our two OutKick the Coverage edition
here on Super Bowl a week and did you guys
see we we kind of talked about this a lot
going into uh the uh going into the show. I
feel like everybody circled back around to me when this
this news broke about Anthony Davis and the fact that
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Anthony Davis was demanding a trade and he wasn't gonna
resign with the Pelicans. Initially there was a great deal
of optimism from Laker fans, and even in the real time,
I said, this doesn't make a lot of sense. I
don't think that Anthony Davis is behaving in a way
that's really that intelligent. I don't think his representation is
giving him the best possible agenting that they could, and
now he's been fine fifty thou dollars, which when you
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make as much money as him, is about like getting
a parking ticket. Somebody said, if you know you could,
compared to the average person who makes fifty dollars a year,
that's like him getting fine. That's like them getting a
seventy eight dollar parking ticket. You might not be happy
about it, but it really doesn't impact of the way
that you that you live your life at all. So
I thought that was intriguing in many ways. Um, but uh,
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are you now Danny g beginning to come around and say,
you know what, nothing is gonna happen between now and
and uh, the actual trade deadline, which is next next Thursday.
And also on top of that that the Lakers lost
another game last night. Is there any update on when
Lebron's actually gonna take the court again? No, I mean
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there's still is no definite word on Lebron's return. Now,
Brandon Ingram had a great game. He dropped thirty six
points without Kuzma, though, uh they couldn't get it done.
So I like the fact that we're showcasing Ingram's skills
because he has been so up and down and so inconsistent.
He was one of the guys where I said I
would be okay with trading him to get So here's
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the problem the Lakers are facing now. They go Saturday.
We'll see whether Lebron comes back. They might. They have
one game left in the month of January. Are they done?
They got one game against the Clippers. Theoretically they could win. Uh,
that's a toss up game. And then they go on
the road and they're gonna lose several games. Probably. They
go on the road against the Warriors. That's probably gonna
be a loss, even if Lebron comes back. Uh. I
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bet he comes back if I were betting for that game,
because Lebron likes the attention. That's an ABC game. Uh.
Then they go on the road against the Pacers. Maybe
with Oladipo out, they have a chance against the Pacers.
Then they go on the road against the Celtics. They're
gonna probably lose that game. On the road against the
seventy sixer is likely to lose that game. They're likely
to go one in three right before the All Star break,
probably get a win against the Hawks to go into
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the All Star Break. I think it's unlikely they're gonna
be in the playoffs as they go into the All
Star break based on what their next five looks like
or so, why does this matter? Well, they are actually
out of the playoff race by a pretty substantial margin
right now when you look at the overall standings in
the NBA. UM, I think you started to get a
little bit nervous about whether or not they're gonna make
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the playoffs. I don't think they're gonna be able to
make a big trade Luke Walton on the chopping block
potentially you have we had yesterday. I thought it was interesting,
Um that discussion with Petro's papadecas we had an hour three.
He said, More interesting than potentially the trade is that
Luke Walton might be on the chopping block. Through fifty
one games, the Lakers are one game over five hundred.
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They have thirty one games remaining. If I'm doing my
math here right, they are two games out of the
playoffs now, and even worse, they're only a game and
a half away from falling to eleventh place overall in
the Western Conference. So I think it's almost time to
hit the panic button there. That's your update though on
exactly is going on. By the way, I am deluge.
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I am deluge right now with people sending me, uh,
the the temperatures and let me just say, the numbers
of you out there in the grip of the polar
vortex is blowing my mind. How many of you are
dealing with as you wake up across the country this morning,
like sub not just sub zero, but like sub minus twenty.
I mean crazy, crazy cold, Uh, the likes of which
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I don't know that we've ever seen before. Everybody's sending
in their their tweets, from their dashboards and everything else.
We mentioned last night was we're gonna be joined by
the way, lots of guests coming in uh throughout the
show today is gonna be a great end of the
week here. Yeah, lots of guests coming in on Thursday
and Friday as well. But last night was the Super
Bowl media party and it was at the Georgia Aquarium,
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and uh we hung out their credit to Danny g.
If you're a listener for the show for a while,
you know that last year after the Super Bowl party
that he was unable Um, Jason Martin was unable to
work because he had too many drinks Danny showed up.
No issues here. But when you break it down, what
is I think pretty fascinating is uh, it was an
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awesome party. These well sharks, they were massive. Put up
some videos and pictures of of how amazing that venue was.
But I saw a girl that I was that was angry.
So this was the highlight of the night. Okay, not
Wolfgang Puck serving his own food. Uh two media members,
which that was nothing. I'm saying that, Yeah, he was
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there doing that, but who cares that you buried the
lead at the very start of the show. This was
the highlight of that NFL get together. So they have
like one huge They have tons of different amazing viewing
areas of this well shark and of this tank, and
I I can't tell you. It's probably not a surprise
that a whale shark would be big, that's why it's
called the whale shark. But it is unbelievable how massive
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this this animal is, and to be able to see
it there in the Georgia Aquarium was incredible from so
many different angles. So they have a and it's an
open bar as much food as you can want. Wolfgame
Puck is they're serving his own food right, like, I mean,
it is a really cool set up at the Georgia Aquarium.
You're at the super Bowl and there is a I
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it wasn't a famous guy, but there's somebody playing music,
right Tom Petty, Dave Matthews. He was singing free Falling
as we were standing there watching, which was pretty cool.
There's a huge crowd of people, everybody's having a great time.
And as we're walking downstairs in this huge venue with
this whale shark behind us, I see this girl leaning
up against the wall and she just has like a
total resting bitch face and she was angry, right, And
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so me, being the nice guy that I am, I'm like,
why why are you so angry? And she's like, I
don't like what people point out that I'm angry. I
was like, well, it's obvious that you're angry, and she said, well,
the fish are being oppressed. Wait before that, though, what
were the first words out of her? I don't even
remember what did she say. So, so when you first
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walked up to her, because we were we were going
down the little ramp and she standing was clearly self
evidently angry, right like arms crossed, resting bitch face, and
I was like, this is like, you have free alcohol,
you got free food, you got this whale shark swing
at swimming. It's a super Bowl. This guy's playing free
music like everybody else seems like they're in a good mood.
So be the nice guy that I am. I asked her,
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what's the matter? Before you asked her that I don't
even remember said hi to her, And when you looked
at her and said hi, and I guess you seem
too happy to her, Roberto, you have that bleep because
she said f you. Oh she immediately said She immediately
said f you to you, which I think a lot
of people want to do to you something. Well, you
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had just said high at that point. Yeah, I don't
and I said hi to a lot of people, by
the way, at the it was an awesome venue, and
I tend to be a pretty easy going, relaxed guy.
So uh, that was her immediate response. And so you
did a double tick. You were like, what he did
you say? And then you repeated it and she's like
I did, And then that's when you jumped into the
So I like awkward conversations, um, and so especially if
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h yeah, if you listen to this show, especially if
like that girl hated me from the from the opening
of the conversation. So I was just kind of curious
where the conversation was gonna go and why she was
so angry. Um and ultimately like and this is within
thirty or forty five seconds of of her being angry,
she is telling me that she's angry because the fish
and the aquarium are oppressed. Oppressed is the word that
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she used. I say, you you think that well shark
is oppressed? She was like, yes, it's horribly oppressed. A said,
why did you come to the Georgia Aquarium if you
believe that there's oppression going on here. This is like
my issue with Lebron James saying like, oh my god,
all the NFL players are slaves, and then he goes
and watches the Rams and the Cowboys playoff game. It's like,
you can't say that all the NFL players are slaves
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and then go watch them. Like if if you're opposed
to slavery back in the day, I bet you didn't
show up in the fields and watch everybody pick cotton
and eat popcorn, right, Like, you don't go get entertained
by the slaves. So I'm like, well, if you think
the fish is a press pressed like in the tank here,
why did you come to the aquarium like right? That
would seem to me to be the equivalent of lebron
go into the game if you're upset and so U
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and so she was really angry and then you took
her picture, which made her even angry. Now the reason
I can't tweet out the picture, but she was so
angry that you took her picture. Oh, she was about
to suck you, which I thought she might hit me,
which the picture taking even that much more impressive. So
I barely got the shot in. And then she gave
you the ice girl. And know if you take a picture,
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and I swear I thought she was gonna knock you
in your Adam's apple. But now from this point on, Clay,
if you ever irritate the staff, we don't even have
to say bleep you to you. I'm just gonna text
you that picture, uh, because forever now that's gonna be
the picture picture. The picture is actually decent other than
the angry girl in it, because the whale shark is
in the background and it's a pretty amazing like venue.
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I was blown away by if I blur her face
a little bit, can I tweet it? I need to
look at the picture again. Um, but she was so
angry and I don't understand it. I guess again it
was the fish being appressed. The picture is great because
you look super happy, like your five drinks in and
she looks like she is watching an oppressed whale shark.
Can you be an oppressed animal? I feel like oppression
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typically doesn't go not in a tank that size. It's
not like he was in a little fish tank. Yeah, okay, Well,
I have a problem visiting the l A Zoo sometimes
because the last time I went, the tigers were in
this tiny little sliver. They didn't even have room to run,
and it bothered me. It really did. When I was leaving,
I was like, damn, they need to build them a bigger,
you know area. Now. It wasn't like this at the aquarium.
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That tank was huge. I'm talking the size of a
football field. The picture is but yeah, you can tweet
this out if you blow her face. I have no
idea who she was, but the picture is amazing because
the whale shark is staring directly into everybody's soul. Right,
It's well framed that just blur out her whole face.
It's a girl. I don't think we need to see
her face. She probably doesn't even know. How did you
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remember saying to you as her initial as her initial
introduction to well, I said hi, walking down the stairs.
She's leaning up against the wall, angry at the world.
I said hi, and she said f you. And then
I was like, well, I gotta figure out what's going
on with this conversation. I think honestly she probably liked me.
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you ever had somebody go over to well and then
you had to pat yourself in the back like I
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have so many ads, I have to say my name wrong,
and then you brag about how rich you are in
the first thirty seconds I'm here. This is it's an
honor to be Most people would think, like, this is
a really awkward start to the conversation, but this is
so much better. We were talking off the air than
the conversation that I had with that girl last night
at the at the aquarium. Yeah, I literally started with
f you. I love that though, by the way, because
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I was going to ask you boring this. I've never
met you efficiently, I've seen you on the internet. Yes,
I enjoy the way you go about handling your business.
I think it's an we've never met, but I also
have impressed by by what you've done. So, Yeah, you've
got a nice beard, but everybody always has an opinion
of Clay Travis. And then as soon as I sit here,
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I hear the story of you going to try and
to enjoy a whale shark class. It was unbelievable, the
whale shark and the Georgia Aquarium. And then the lady
just popped off and said she hated everything about your soul.
Basically like, well, Clay, this is like something I was
going to ask about and it just got thrown into it. Yeah,
And she said in addition to the fact that f
you to start the conversation, she said so that that
she was not happy to be at the aquarium because
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all the fish were oppressed. And I was like, I'd
never really have put the word oppression in conjunction with
a fish before, but now that I think about it,
like the oppressed fish would be an amazing band name
or something. Right if you were if you were out
there trying to think of a name for your band,
you're a high school kid going to school this morning, Like,
there you go, the oppressed fish. You can assige me
when you come Superstars. Well, I think you time you
throw fish in there, like hoody and blowfish is a
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wordable name. Yes, fish is something you can tag at
the end of any band name and it's normally gonna
do well for you know. But you also got to
think those oppressed fish, those fish are doing a life
sentence in there, you know what I mean. They don't
get back out. Nobody thinks about that whale shark being
in there for his entire life in there unless you
get a NEMO situation where they escape. Um, you know
they had that that That's a great movie. But but
other outside of the film universe very unlikely. Uh so,
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uh you live in Indianapolis. For people who don't know you,
you are a punter. We have a Brett Kern is
a good friend of mine. He loves you like you're
You're always out there for the brand. Today, let's start
this because they always get upset if I don't do it.
You hear for Buffalo Wild Wings, Yeah, Buffalo Wild Wings
has asked me to come chit chat about what they
have going on. And basically, if the Rams and Patriots
goes over overtime, which is what we're all banking on happening.
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NFC game, a f C game once overtime. Now, if
the Big one goes to overtime, Buffalo Wild Wings is
giving out free wings to America, and that is, honestly
something I think everybody can get behind, whether you love
Tom Brady or hate him, whether you think the twelve
year old McVeigh is gonna do well or not. I
think the free wings opportunity everybody should be banking on overtime.
And that's what we're here for, just to spread awareness
(14:31):
that there's some free damn wings on the line here
whenever these two teams step on the field. Now you've
got a beard a little bit like me, but you
don't have sleeves on right now. And I gotta be honest,
you got a little Cobra Kai look going here, Johnny
with If you didn't have the beard, you'd have a
definite Johnny from Karate Kid, look going here. See I've
never seen the movie. You've never seen Craig Kid, not
once in my life. But I the kid did the thing,
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the crane thing. I get it. Why you haven't watched
Karate Kid. So when I was a child, I've been
learning this with my adventures with my friends on my show,
So we do a lot of talking about obviously relevant things.
My childhood. I had such bad a d D. I
think like you wouldn't watch movies no way I got
I had no time for that. I honestly have no
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clue how anybody did it. And I I know that
I've missed an entire chapter of my life. You gotta
go back in time and just look at all those
So that's one of the great things I've got three
boys is taking them back and watching you know, the
Back to the Future movies, like all of the movies
that I grew up watching, including Karate Kids. They love
them like they think the nineties is the greatest time
on the planet, right, And it's really cool to see
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through their eyes again and also recognize how awesome so
many of those movies are. So Oh, they have an
unbelievable life. I'm jealous of my kids. I'm jealous of
my kids and my wife. They have unbelievable gigs. The
thing about your kids is they aren't oppressed fish, so
they're gonna live a great life. It's gonna be a
good news everywhere. And they don't They can leave right,
They don't have to stay in the same place for
their entire life. Um Now, I always curious with kickers,
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when did you recognize that you had a powerful leg.
So like when you were like five, were you like
I could kick the ball a lot better than anybody else. Yeah,
So in soccer I always had a stronger leg than
anybody else naturally. Yeah, so that instead of watching movies
and all that stuff when I was a kid, I would, honestly,
my hobby was to kick a soccer ball against the
side of my house. So to drive your parents crazy.
They yeah, I drove them crazy, but it got me
out of the house and they hadn't listened to a thump.
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But it was nice to not have me around, I
think for a long time. And uh, whenever I was
a teenager, I was playing in a soccer game, was
indoor soccer game. It's called foot salt, and the ball
is a little bit heavier, right, so it's like a
smaller ball, it's a little heavier. I broke the bullies
arm right with a shot right bing, bang, boom, And
I think that was really the day that everybody was like,
this kid's leg is pretty strong. And then kind of
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one thing moved to another and the first time I
kicked a football, I kicked a six yard field goal,
and then it was just kind of from there. It
was business decision. Yeah, with my family, like, instead of
playing soccer, let's focus on taking three steps and making
money as opposed to seven miles. So that was kind
of the decision. I got real lucky. So did you
start playing in high school? Did? But yeah, junior year
of Uh, and you've never played football before that now
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and I never wants a pro This is either because
soccer was supposed to be the thing I was supposed
to play soccer. I got had a lot more universities
in colleges looking at me for soccer than for football.
I wouldn't go to practice. I just show up, like
with the fans on Friday's Kick. Our football team wasn't great,
but I generated a little bit of interest. Went to
a college kicking camp after my senior year, made a
sixty five yard field goal, missed a seventy yard field
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goal wide right. The next day, I had a offer
to West Virginia University in my cafeteria of high school
and I was like, yep, I heard it's a great
time in Morgantown, which I enjoyed having, and uh they
offered me first car shop. Did you ever burn a couch? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
we want a luck like there's a lot of celebrating there.
There's a lot of celebrating, and I was a very
small factor on a very good team, so I got
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to reap the benefits of like Pat White and Steve
Slayton being incredible football players. Did you overlap with Pacman
at all? Pacman was the year before me, but he
used to come back and train in the summer, So
I know the Pacman pretty well. Yeah, I know the
pac Man. So I always think of Morgantown, West Virginia,
which is an awesome place, and I think we're on
there as well. I always think it as like dead Wood, right,
Like it's like this crazy hidden place, like the idea
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that Chris Henry and Pacman Jones were there, and basically
I know they gotten a little bit of trouble, but
didn't get in that much trouble and then they suddenly
emerged like their dead bodies just buried on the hills
outside of Morgantown. Right. I'm not sure that I could
have looked like a dead body on a few occasions intown,
but I have not seen Deadwood, but I get it
dead Wood. I'm assuming it's bodies in the woods. Actually,
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I don't have a lot of woods on Deadwood. It's uh,
it's awesome. They're making a movie now. Al you watch television? Now?
Are you watching? Now? Are you still have a you
know what I mean? I dive into some stuff. I
saw that Ted Bundy tapes. How is that? It was interesting?
I haven't watched it. Terrible human man. It's been interesting
how the pop culture has talked about Ted Bundy. But
I watched a lot of documentaries. Have you watched the
Fire Festival? Oh yeah, come on, Billy McFarland, let's go.
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How about Andy King? By the way, that guy is
a real one. He was a loyal guy. Anything for
water for old Billy McFarland, you gotta really respect that.
What's amazing to me about the Netflix and how some
of these document nary's take off it suddenly it seems
like everybody has seen them. So last night, even at
the at the at the media party, the number of
people who were talking about the Fire Festival documentary blew
my mind. And it's just crazy how something can take
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you go viral like that. In terms of watching a
documentary which I don't remember growing up, well, I think
we all remember when that fire festival promotion started right like,
I have a guy who works for me who wanted
to He was like trying to do things to earn
a ticket to go to Yeah, because he was all
about the social media influencers. For people who don't know,
this took place in the Bahamas and it was gonna
be this huge concert and it was almost entirely on
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a private island, almost entirely promoted through Instagram like influencers
like but a Hot Chicks basically basically that's all. It
was sports illustrated models and I G influencers, And I
had a guy in my office that wanted to go
bad and I like, I don't know, I didn't I
don't know if I didn't want to pay for him
to go or what happened. Something happened. So whenever through
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I was so upset that he wasn't there, Like whenever
there was like videos of people like strand yes, these
rich white kids stranded on him on the island in
the Bahamas at losing their minds on social media, which
is how it went viral again when it didn't actually
end up happening. So then getting a peek behind that,
I think everybody is interested in the documentaries. We're in
a documentary era right now because it's easy to make,
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it's cheap, and people want to know more about more things,
and it's like a woke society almost. Yeah, crazily. Uh,
when I was growing up, pressing press fits. Um, when
I was growing up, Like, the only real documentary I
remember is Hoop Dreams right there, Ian, you didn't see
documentaries maybe like Fahrenheit nine eleven or something like that.
Like there are a couple of them that have gotten
a lot of attention, but by and large, but now
with the Netflix and and everything else, it's like they
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take off and everybody suddenly is talking about it. So
I'm sure a lot of people listening to us right
now have seen that documentary. Um, what do you do now?
So you had your So you go to West Virginia.
You have an incredible average and I was pretty good.
I had a really strong LEGO wasn't great. So what
percentagury of kicks would you make? Seven? I think I
was like seventy four or seventy five, seventy three maybe
I was in that area there. I had really strong,
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like had no clue where the hell it was really
like a driver who like in golf, who can get
up in the tea box and you're gonna crush it,
but you have no idea where it's gonna be. Yeah.
And I started literally from my freshman year, first game,
so I went straight through. So the people of West
Virginia had to really go through some ebbs and flows
with me, which I appreciate them for. But I started
punting my last two years there. But it was the
college rollout punt, so we catched the ball. I didn't
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know how to punt. I would just run to this, yes, exactly,
try to get the ball in the ground and just
had let it roll right. He's gonna hit it as
hard as I can and hope it rolls. Uh. And
then Bill Polian said that he thought he could, like
it was athletic enough to figure out how the NFL punt,
which is just two steps. Yeah, he said, I think
you're athletic enough to figure it out. I was like, well,
we're gonna find out. I mean, there's a nightmare decision
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for him. So I got drafted in the seventh round
and then a year later and make the team and
I'm kicking off the Super Bowl and I have no
clue what the hell I'm doing. There was no reason
for me to be there, and then I just kind
of worked, enjoyed my time, and got really lucky to
play eight years there. So I think it was Vanderjack,
like Peyton Manning called in an idio kick or whatever
it was. Did he ever insult you or do you
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have a better relationship as a punter with Peyton man
I knew going in there after Vanderjack messed that up
the relationship. I was like, Okay, here we go. Vanderjack
went to West Virginia. I went to West Virginia. I
like to drink. Vanderjack likes to drink. I knew I
was coming in with a couple of strikes against me,
but he enjoyed me. I think I think Peyton enjoyed
me a little bit. Hey he uh, he was the
perfect teammate, to be honest with you. He when I
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was a rookie, he would take me to places like
Peyton Mannings taken me to places. It was stupid. It
was just the dumbest thing ever. I was at a
Tennessee game with Peyton Manning, Bruce Pearl, pat and Uh,
the President of Tennessee was there. And I was there
with Peyton and like Anthony Gonzalez who's now a sitting senator,
and it was like I was a rookie. I was say,
there's no reason I'm supposed to be here. Lack and
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Chuck beers pretty well. Some people found that impressive. I
was like a dancing monkey for people, and I was
completely okay with me. What game did you go to?
Do you remember? It was a kick It was the
first game of the year. Uh, it was probably two
thousand it was two thousand nine. I don't remember what
it was. But the place was incredible, absolutely incredible. I
got to talk to the kickers before the game on
the field. It was really just a It was cool.
And Peyton was way too nice to me. He shouldn't
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have been as nice to me as he was. Um,
how much did you enjoy being in the NFL? Like?
And I would like to ask like people who were
involved in special teams, because your experience is a lot
different than the other guys. So, uh, when you were
actually in the NFL, were you like this is amazing.
I love every minute of it. What was your experience like? Yeah,
I mean I had a lot of fun. Man, The
NFL was incredible to me. Obviously paid very well. I
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got to take care of my family, my friends, everybody
was supposed to. I got a chance and experience a
lot of really cool things. And then towards the end
of like the first five six years, I loved every
day getting to work. I loved getting better at what
I was doing. There was only thirty two people who
had my job, so I was enjoying it. I was
getting good, getting very confident. And then I started hating
going to work. I just was sick of it, you
know I was. And what changed, well, I mean the
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GM hated me, right, So the GM was not a
fan of mine. He didn't what He didn't like you
because you drank it even like you're off the field.
Even when he got there, I didn't even drink anymore
because I had already gotten arrested. He didn't like the
way my Twitter was, so I was basically at this
point the voice of the colts in Indianapolis. My Twitter
was large. After I got into an alleged incident Clay.
The cops have their story, I have mine. It was
public intoxication. The city and State of India, the city
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of Indianapolis, State of Indiana kind of got behind me,
and my Twitter started slowly growing and growing. And then
when the new regime came in, they cut Peyton Manning,
they cut everybody. So the only person people that really
stayed around with me, even a Terry Robert mathis Reggie Wayne,
Anthony Gustanzo, and none of them were that active on
social media. So I was literally the biggest platform coming
out of the Colts, and then the new GM did
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not like that I was potentially a voice of anybody
of that building. And I mean it was it was
very It wasn't just him. I mean I had three
knee surgeries in like four years on my knees because
they were kind of getting worn out. It was just
a lot of things. I was falling in love with
what was happening off the field. I was doing stand up,
I was doing a lot of philanth philanthropic stuff. It
was just I I just didn't enjoy going to work
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to kick ball some four towns anymore. So I just
was like, you know what, here we go. If people
are enjoying this interview, they can find you wear on Twitter. Uh,
It's it's not worth it. It's to follow. We have
too many. Uh No, it's at Pat McFie show, and
it's I used to be better on there when I
was smaller, I was better. Now you get nervous. Now
you overthink it or what do you do now? You
can't really do much interacting because everything whenever you're and
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I'm sure you get young about this. So if I
respond to somebody who like, I used to enjoy when
people would like talk trash to me, so that because
I wouldn't because as a punter, you can't talk trash. Mean,
there's so when I was playing soccer, I could talk trash.
When I was playing pick up basketball, when I was
a kid, I could talk trash. When I'm trah can't.
I can't trash talk anybody. Literally, there's nobody I could try.
I am the bottom of the totem pole in the
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National Football League. So Twitter was like my escape, Like, okay,
so if this guy chirps at me, I could chirp
him back. Now I can't even do that. I can't
really because once I go after somebody, I have the
best people in the world follow me. They feel like
they got attack and now I'm the bad guy. So
it's like it kind of when I was smaller, was
a lot more fun. But now I just kind of
what my observations are in life and enjoy it. Pat
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McAfee show went out of all this caffee show too.
Pat mccaffee show, unbelievable. Why do you play? You came
in here, just dumped right on my face. Unbelievable. So uh,
in addition to this, you're doing a lot of stuff
I think I have. I need to look up this email.
I think we're doing a prop contest. Have you heard
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about this? Were you informed on this old prop contest?
I'm trying to pull it up. And the wife, you
would think of all places, they would have incredible WiFi.
Here's cold outside. It's nowhere near the polar vortex over
there in America. It's like negative fifty in some place. Yeah,
I know, we had people calling in this morning. We're
trying to figure out who the coldest was. My heart
is with you, but Atlanta is nowhere near Southern Happy
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warm Race. There's no doubt cold. We had to walk
four miles get here. It is cold outside. It's it's brutal.
You know, they shut down schools yesterday because I thought
it was gonna snow. I respect that. I respect that
a lot to shut her down. John Taffer in Atlanta.
They were prepared, all right, So here we're gonna do
these quickly, all right? Is that the way we're supposed
to do it? National anthem? You're going over over alright?
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Somebody keep tracking, keep track on these days. Well. I
do believe though that studies, like people that have been
watching film on her. I've been saying the under is
the smart bet. But I think the moment might get sore,
shoul might carry out a sea, you know what I mean.
And I think it's gonna be over strictly for America.
My bookie prop contest herein toss? Which way you're you going? Heads? Man?
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Always heads? Do you ever get to call the toss
one time? Would you go with? You win? Well? With heads?
Did you win? Yeah? Yeah? I felt really good about
it too. I mean that was the first time I
was allowed to speak. Basically, it was a fun moment.
What is the best hit you ever put on somebody
as a punter? Was there one guy with the trend
in holiday hit is the biggest because it was when
Peyton came back as the Broncos that Sunday night football
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is being viewed as like a playoff game. It was
big numbers, huge hit, terrible field position. So I didn't
do my job well at all. But I tackled trending
holiday that blew up. But before the social media phase,
like back in college, I was like to forty, we're
playing against like Eastern Washington. Like some of these little
kids and some of the returners are small. Yeah, I
used to catch some people. I used to really get
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some people. Whenever they didn't think I was you ever
get a concussion? I assume I didn't. I didn't wear
my strap, I didn't wear the strap underneath, and I
had terrible tackling for him. So I'm assuming that something.
My noggin has at least been knocked a couple of times. Uh.
First half spread you think the is crazy stat and
the Patriots have only scored three points in the first
quarter in their eight Super bowls so far. The Patriots
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are a half point first half spread favorite according to
this I like I like the Patriots in the first half.
I like the Patriots in the second half, But most importantly,
I like the Patriots in overtime, because if this game
goes to overtime, Clay Buffalo wild Wings, Free Wings in
two Sundays from now. I like the Patriots Brady do
you like him to have a lot of passing yards?
You know? One thirty nine and a half in the
first half, they got that three headed monster in the backfield,
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and I honestly think if they can get that moving
somehow against that stout d line, I think it's gonna
be under. I think they're gonna be handing the rock
from the first half and then let Tom Brady take
in the second half. What once they see what the
defense is doing, uh total punts a half under. I
think it's gonna be So what about the fifty seven
yard What do you think about the misscall? By the way,
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you were if you were on the Saints, how sick
would you be? Well, I mean you've gotta be disgusted,
especially after the Minnesota miracle happened in Minneapolis miracle happened
the year before. That's Drew Brees. I think was about
to call it a day, like he hit every single record. Yeah,
I think he was about done. He was doing a
lot more of that shoulder shrug. At the end of
the year he had every single record. I assume that
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this was gonna be his last run and even if
they maybe even if they just lose that game out right,
potentially his last run. But after the miracle to Stefon
Diggs and then the bird box situation with dumb Refs,
I have no idea how Drew brees he has to
come back. It just has to be unsettling as a Saints.
How often are you up early in the morning? I
wake up pretty early. You want to come on the
show regularly because I think people would enjoy it? Sure? Man,
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you just get ahold of me? All right? Well do that?
Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked the coverage
with Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern, three
am Pacific. We got a guy now, who I bet
if I told him a year ago you're gonna be
nominated for Rookie of the Year and you're gonna be
walking around at the super Bowl would have said that
sounds like a pretty good conclusion to what was a
wild year for you. Philip Lindsay, Denver, Bronco running back, undrafted.
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But what does it feel like for you to be
here PEPSI Rookie of the Year challenge and be one
of the final nominees, and what can you tell for
people who might want to go ahead and make a
little bit of their voice heard for why you should
be that nominee. Yeah, first off, I want to saying
thank you guys for having me today to be here.
And yeah, pretty much for the Pepsie it's an honor
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to be able to be selected for this and and
there's some great uh contenders right now for us, so
hopefully uh I can win it. Um. I definitely need
the fans to help out, you know, and at the
fans you know, fans vote. It's a fan vote thing,
voted thing. So um, yeah, we we need on the
all the support I can get it. They're gonna announce
the winner of the contest tomorrow, Rookie of the Year
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contest sponsored by PEPSI. If I had told you on
draft night, sit there on the Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
you don't hear your name called, what was that experience? Like? Yeah,
I want to first off, you know, first start off
by saying that, um, the draft process is a grind,
but that day, those three days are probably one of
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the worst moments of your life. If you wanted the
first first pick of the draft because you're sitting there.
He eats you alive. It really does. I don't I
don't wish nobody has to go through it, and I
don't wish their families would have to go through It's
it's a bad feeling to have to wait for three
days straight for somebody to call your name. Did you
think you were going to be drafted, and if so,
where did you think you would be? Yeah? I for
sure thought I was gonna at least be drafted in
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the six seventh front. I think I had a strong
enough um college and then a college career. Yeah, I was.
I was consistent, and um, there's people being drafted that
played two years of college football and had no steps.
So UM, when I sit back and look at it,
I just it was. It's one of the things where
you know, I'm sitting here and thinking, all right, I'm
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gonna get drafted. I didn't know from who. And the
one thing I always say is that everybody calls and
UH tells you they're gonna draft you, and they don't.
And sometimes there was a time, uh where one of
the teams said, you know, uh, we're not gonna draft
the running back and you look up on the screen
two minutes later and they drafted a running back. So
it's just one of those things that it can eat
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you alive, and it can really frustrate you, uh and
bringing tears to your eyes and your family's eyes. Uh.
Philip lindsay, so you were sitting there for three days,
you don't get drafted. What did they tell you about
why you weren't drafted? Did you get any kind of
indication my my height, my my size, you just weren't
big enough with exactly. I mean, that's the only reason
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why I didn't go to the combine. But there was
people going to the combine that you've never heard of before,
but because because somebody felt that they they know best.
That's why. That's the funny thing about everybody is all
these analysts is everybody feels like they know what they're
talking about. But nobody can control you. Nobody can tell
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you what you're gonna be and what you wanna do.
You gotta go out there and do it, you know,
And that's that's that's period. It's a powerful story. No
matter who you are, what you do for a living,
everybody has to deal on some level with doubters, with
haters with people who don't believe that you're capable of
performing at the highest level. So you end up in
Denver Bronco training camp, right, you signed it as an
undrafted free agent. At what point when you showed up
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with the Broncos did you start to think, you know what,
I could do something here substantial, even in my rookie year. Yeah,
when I first got there. When I first got there,
I had that confidence, and you know, I knew I
need to earn respect from now, from the coaches and
definitely from the players. Your teammates. Your teammates matter. And
that first practice I went out there and I made
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I scored a touchdown the first time I was in
the next day, I did the same thing, and I
knew that IM gonna drap the free agent and it's
a slam chance. I wanna make it. If I don't,
I'm only getting about five reps and a practice, yes,
so I gotta make them count. I gotta be out there,
and I gotta be a dog on special teams. I
gotta be a dog in the in the weight room,
and I gotta be a dog when it comes to
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the meet. And that's that's what it's about it's about
outlasting people. And that's and I always tell people that
it's about outlasting And when when I knew that that
I can outlast people, I knew that I was gonna
be okay. A lot of people, probably who are around you,
and certainly a lot of people listening, think, oh, you
make the NFL. That guy's making so much money, right Like,
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you're making killions of millions of dollars the NFL league
minimum four eighty thousand dollars. You pay a lot of taxes,
so you know, I mean, it's not like you are
a rich guy yet necessarily, and in fact, you lived
with your mom for your entire rookie year. Tell people
about that. Who might I know that part of your story?
So I decided I'm home. It's about twenty minutes from
the facility, which is a gorgeous When you wake up
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in the more early in the morning, this sun hasn't
hasn't came out yet, and then you're driving in the
sun starts rise. It gives you time to think. So
it's farther enough away so that you can regroup your thoughts.
And so I figured, you know, i'm home. I get
to save my money up. I still pay you know,
bills from my mother and stuff like that, but I
get to save a lot of money, you know, and
and work my way up to buy in a condo
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because no matter what I do, when I'm done playing football,
I want to I wanna get a home in my
hometown in Colorado. You want to stay in Yeah, exactly.
So you're born and raised in Denver, you went to
Colorado to UH to play UH for you CE Boulder,
which is a big time pack twelfth program. Now you
get to play for the Denver Broncos. When you look
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at it now, does there seem like there was a
method that led to pain for you on draft night?
But maybe you ended up in the best possible situation. Yeah.
I mean everything happens for a reason. I'm a firm
believer of that. When I got hurt, everything it has timing.
God has ways of slowing you down when it's time
for you to slow down, or or going through obstacles
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that he knows that you need to go through to
become a better man, better woman. So that's how I believe.
I'm a firm believer in that. And Uh, like I said,
it was a tough I had a tough time in
college too. I had it. I had to. I had
to grind, you know. I had to grind From high school.
I got humble when I hurt my knee. Then I
got up to college. I was little, I was I
was a hundred and fifty pounds, you know what I mean.
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And I'm sitting here. What do you wait now about?
Proud of it too? You know? I mean, like all
that other stuff is cute. That combine stuff is cute.
Now that we're done with that, Like you say what
they want, I don't care, but yeah, it's about it's
about productivity. We're talking to Philip Lindsay Dever, Bronco running
back underrafted free agent nominee for Rookie of the Year
here Radio Row in Atlanta, Super Bowl fifty three. Yeah,
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I want to go back to living in uh In
with your mom. Do you have brothers and sisters too?
So do you sleep in your like kids like bedroom
or where do you sleep downstairs? Yeah? So? Uh my
city like so pretty much everybody's out the house now
everybody's everybody. Oh, everybody's out the house. Um, but I
sleep downstairs in the basement and stuff like that. So
I got my own own space and stuff like that.
But uh, it's just easy right now, you know, can
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you bring girls over? You know, I have a girlfriend
right now? But what is mom think of the girlfriend?
They have a good relationship, Yeah, they definitely do, I think.
So what's the reaction when guys find out in the
locker room that you're living at home with your mom?
First they they laugh, they tease, and then they start
to think. You know, yeah, that's when they come to me,
A couple of them. You know, I kind of wish,
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you know, I would have stayed at home. You're doing
the right way. It's a smart way right now. So
you said you start off your day early in the morning,
Sun's not even up. What is your typical day like
during the season for the Denver Broncos Because I think
people are curious about that too from the perspective of
I mean, you grind right, So so what what you
get up? You wake up at your at your house,
You eat breakfast with mom? So mom used my mom
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used to stay you know, sleep and stuff. So I
get up, you know, and uh get out the house.
You know, Uh clear my mind with with the driving
and stuf up. And then when I get to the facility,
there might be usually I'm the first one there. Man,
what time when you get to the facility about six
o'clock sometimes at but yeah, so it's still dark, usually
real dark outside. But I get everything situated, you know,
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get my mind right, go through my plays. Uh, you
know we usually lift in the morning, so so get
get ready for that and uh just kind of like
and you know, get back and sit back and enjoy
you know what has happened and enjoy that. I'm I'm
able to play this game still, you know. So you
have the off season now you've got a cast on
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your on your what what what's the recovery process there?
You expect to be better? Like, how what's your process? Um?
I can do everything, I can run, I can do
every single thing except put pressure on this right now
because it's it's healing. But uh, I should be be ready.
Uh you know, a boy o t s. But you
never know, injuries take time. Man, only god knows what's
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you know how long it's gonna take. So how much
different does this offseason feel for you now that you
know you have a role on the Denver Broncos compared
to what last year's offseason would have felt like, yeah,
it doesn't. It doesn't feel any different because I gotta grind.
Now we got a new coaching staff, I gotta I
gotta go and show again the consistency, show that that
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I can be consistent in the NFL, not just one
year two years. It's about being here four or five, six,
seven years. So it's about showing that and my mentality
how I work. I'm scared. I'm scared to fail, so
I'll grind all the time I'm working. I'm working. Ain't
the biggest, but I'm gonna give you everything I got.
You know what I mean. I don't care about the
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size and that I'm gonna do what I have to
do to protect my family to make sure they're okay.
What do you think of the new coaching staff so far?
I like them. I like them, you know. I think
that it's gonna be beneficial for myself and beneficial for
Case and and a lot of us, you know, And
I know the defenses is really excited. Um. You know,
our head coaches defense orientated man, and he's really good,
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So we're excited. Philip Lindsay will be rooting for you.
I know people have loved hearing from you. Are giving
people out your Twitter handle if people want to reach
out to you. Yeah, it's a twitters Philip, I see
you boy, And Instagram is a Philip Lindsay. All right,
people can find you on Twitter. Outstanding underscore boy. So,
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by by the way, when are you going to move
out of Mom's place? You know, I was thinking about
it this Uh, you know, a couple of months from now.
We're gonna see how it goes. You know, they're talking
about the lockout in two dozen twenty, so you might
want to save as much money as you can, so
you might stay there for a year too, might have to,
you know what I mean. You know it's she she
welcomes with open arms, and you know that's all. You know,
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I'm thankful for That's outstanding stuff. Philip Lindsay follow his
story incredible year with the Denver Broncos. Appreciate him joining
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OutKick the Coverage with Clay Travis on Fox Sports Radio.
(00:25):
We are rolling into our two OutKick the Coverage edition
here on Super Bowl a week and did you guys
see we we kind of talked about this a lot
going into uh the uh going into the show. I
feel like everybody circled back around to me when this
this news broke about Anthony Davis and the fact that
(00:46):
Anthony Davis was demanding a trade and he wasn't gonna
resign with the Pelicans. Initially there was a great deal
of optimism from Laker fans, and even in the real time,
I said, this doesn't make a lot of sense. I
don't think that Anthony Davis is behaving in a way
that's really that intelligent. I don't think his representation is
giving him the best possible agenting that they could, and
now he's been fine fifty thou dollars, which when you
(01:09):
make as much money as him, is about like getting
a parking ticket. Somebody said, if you know you could,
compared to the average person who makes fifty dollars a year,
that's like him getting fine. That's like them getting a
seventy eight dollar parking ticket. You might not be happy
about it, but it really doesn't impact of the way
that you that you live your life at all. So
I thought that was intriguing in many ways. Um, but uh,
(01:32):
are you now Danny g beginning to come around and say,
you know what, nothing is gonna happen between now and
and uh, the actual trade deadline, which is next next Thursday.
And also on top of that that the Lakers lost
another game last night. Is there any update on when
Lebron's actually gonna take the court again? No, I mean
(01:52):
there's still is no definite word on Lebron's return. Now,
Brandon Ingram had a great game. He dropped thirty six
points without Kuzma, though, uh they couldn't get it done.
So I like the fact that we're showcasing Ingram's skills
because he has been so up and down and so inconsistent.
He was one of the guys where I said I
would be okay with trading him to get So here's
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the problem the Lakers are facing now. They go Saturday.
We'll see whether Lebron comes back. They might. They have
one game left in the month of January. Are they done?
They got one game against the Clippers. Theoretically they could win. Uh,
that's a toss up game. And then they go on
the road and they're gonna lose several games. Probably. They
go on the road against the Warriors. That's probably gonna
be a loss, even if Lebron comes back. Uh. I
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bet he comes back if I were betting for that game,
because Lebron likes the attention. That's an ABC game. Uh.
Then they go on the road against the Pacers. Maybe
with Oladipo out, they have a chance against the Pacers.
Then they go on the road against the Celtics. They're
gonna probably lose that game. On the road against the
seventy sixer is likely to lose that game. They're likely
to go one in three right before the All Star break,
probably get a win against the Hawks to go into
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the All Star Break. I think it's unlikely they're gonna
be in the playoffs as they go into the All
Star break based on what their next five looks like
or so, why does this matter? Well, they are actually
out of the playoff race by a pretty substantial margin
right now when you look at the overall standings in
the NBA. UM, I think you started to get a
little bit nervous about whether or not they're gonna make
(03:20):
the playoffs. I don't think they're gonna be able to
make a big trade Luke Walton on the chopping block
potentially you have we had yesterday. I thought it was interesting,
Um that discussion with Petro's papadecas we had an hour three.
He said, More interesting than potentially the trade is that
Luke Walton might be on the chopping block. Through fifty
one games, the Lakers are one game over five hundred.
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They have thirty one games remaining. If I'm doing my
math here right, they are two games out of the
playoffs now, and even worse, they're only a game and
a half away from falling to eleventh place overall in
the Western Conference. So I think it's almost time to
hit the panic button there. That's your update though on
exactly is going on. By the way, I am deluge.
(04:02):
I am deluge right now with people sending me, uh,
the the temperatures and let me just say, the numbers
of you out there in the grip of the polar
vortex is blowing my mind. How many of you are
dealing with as you wake up across the country this morning,
like sub not just sub zero, but like sub minus twenty.
I mean crazy, crazy cold, Uh, the likes of which
(04:25):
I don't know that we've ever seen before. Everybody's sending
in their their tweets, from their dashboards and everything else.
We mentioned last night was we're gonna be joined by
the way, lots of guests coming in uh throughout the
show today is gonna be a great end of the
week here. Yeah, lots of guests coming in on Thursday
and Friday as well. But last night was the Super
Bowl media party and it was at the Georgia Aquarium,
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and uh we hung out their credit to Danny g.
If you're a listener for the show for a while,
you know that last year after the Super Bowl party
that he was unable Um, Jason Martin was unable to
work because he had too many drinks Danny showed up.
No issues here. But when you break it down, what
is I think pretty fascinating is uh, it was an
(05:07):
awesome party. These well sharks, they were massive. Put up
some videos and pictures of of how amazing that venue was.
But I saw a girl that I was that was angry.
So this was the highlight of the night. Okay, not
Wolfgang Puck serving his own food. Uh two media members,
which that was nothing. I'm saying that, Yeah, he was
(05:29):
there doing that, but who cares that you buried the
lead at the very start of the show. This was
the highlight of that NFL get together. So they have
like one huge They have tons of different amazing viewing
areas of this well shark and of this tank, and
I I can't tell you. It's probably not a surprise
that a whale shark would be big, that's why it's
called the whale shark. But it is unbelievable how massive
(05:52):
this this animal is, and to be able to see
it there in the Georgia Aquarium was incredible from so
many different angles. So they have a and it's an
open bar as much food as you can want. Wolfgame
Puck is they're serving his own food right, like, I mean,
it is a really cool set up at the Georgia Aquarium.
You're at the super Bowl and there is a I
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it wasn't a famous guy, but there's somebody playing music,
right Tom Petty, Dave Matthews. He was singing free Falling
as we were standing there watching, which was pretty cool.
There's a huge crowd of people, everybody's having a great time.
And as we're walking downstairs in this huge venue with
this whale shark behind us, I see this girl leaning
up against the wall and she just has like a
total resting bitch face and she was angry, right, And
(06:35):
so me, being the nice guy that I am, I'm like,
why why are you so angry? And she's like, I
don't like what people point out that I'm angry. I
was like, well, it's obvious that you're angry, and she said, well,
the fish are being oppressed. Wait before that, though, what
were the first words out of her? I don't even
remember what did she say. So, so when you first
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walked up to her, because we were we were going
down the little ramp and she standing was clearly self
evidently angry, right like arms crossed, resting bitch face, and
I was like, this is like, you have free alcohol,
you got free food, you got this whale shark swing
at swimming. It's a super Bowl. This guy's playing free
music like everybody else seems like they're in a good mood.
So be the nice guy that I am. I asked her,
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what's the matter? Before you asked her that I don't
even remember said hi to her, And when you looked
at her and said hi, and I guess you seem
too happy to her, Roberto, you have that bleep because
she said f you. Oh she immediately said She immediately
said f you to you, which I think a lot
of people want to do to you something. Well, you
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had just said high at that point. Yeah, I don't
and I said hi to a lot of people, by
the way, at the it was an awesome venue, and
I tend to be a pretty easy going, relaxed guy.
So uh, that was her immediate response. And so you
did a double tick. You were like, what he did
you say? And then you repeated it and she's like
I did, And then that's when you jumped into the
So I like awkward conversations, um, and so especially if
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h yeah, if you listen to this show, especially if
like that girl hated me from the from the opening
of the conversation. So I was just kind of curious
where the conversation was gonna go and why she was
so angry. Um and ultimately like and this is within
thirty or forty five seconds of of her being angry,
she is telling me that she's angry because the fish
and the aquarium are oppressed. Oppressed is the word that
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she used. I say, you you think that well shark
is oppressed? She was like, yes, it's horribly oppressed. A said,
why did you come to the Georgia Aquarium if you
believe that there's oppression going on here. This is like
my issue with Lebron James saying like, oh my god,
all the NFL players are slaves, and then he goes
and watches the Rams and the Cowboys playoff game. It's like,
you can't say that all the NFL players are slaves
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and then go watch them. Like if if you're opposed
to slavery back in the day, I bet you didn't
show up in the fields and watch everybody pick cotton
and eat popcorn, right, Like, you don't go get entertained
by the slaves. So I'm like, well, if you think
the fish is a press pressed like in the tank here,
why did you come to the aquarium like right? That
would seem to me to be the equivalent of lebron
go into the game if you're upset and so U
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and so she was really angry and then you took
her picture, which made her even angry. Now the reason
I can't tweet out the picture, but she was so
angry that you took her picture. Oh, she was about
to suck you, which I thought she might hit me,
which the picture taking even that much more impressive. So
I barely got the shot in. And then she gave
you the ice girl. And know if you take a picture,
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and I swear I thought she was gonna knock you
in your Adam's apple. But now from this point on, Clay,
if you ever irritate the staff, we don't even have
to say bleep you to you. I'm just gonna text
you that picture, uh, because forever now that's gonna be
the picture picture. The picture is actually decent other than
the angry girl in it, because the whale shark is
in the background and it's a pretty amazing like venue.
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I was blown away by if I blur her face
a little bit, can I tweet it? I need to
look at the picture again. Um, but she was so
angry and I don't understand it. I guess again it
was the fish being appressed. The picture is great because
you look super happy, like your five drinks in and
she looks like she is watching an oppressed whale shark.
Can you be an oppressed animal? I feel like oppression
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typically doesn't go not in a tank that size. It's
not like he was in a little fish tank. Yeah, okay, Well,
I have a problem visiting the l A Zoo sometimes
because the last time I went, the tigers were in
this tiny little sliver. They didn't even have room to run,
and it bothered me. It really did. When I was leaving,
I was like, damn, they need to build them a bigger,
you know area. Now. It wasn't like this at the aquarium.
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That tank was huge. I'm talking the size of a
football field. The picture is but yeah, you can tweet
this out if you blow her face. I have no
idea who she was, but the picture is amazing because
the whale shark is staring directly into everybody's soul. Right,
It's well framed that just blur out her whole face.
It's a girl. I don't think we need to see
her face. She probably doesn't even know. How did you
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remember saying to you as her initial as her initial
introduction to well, I said hi, walking down the stairs.
She's leaning up against the wall, angry at the world.
I said hi, and she said f you. And then
I was like, well, I gotta figure out what's going
on with this conversation. I think honestly she probably liked me.
Be sure to catch live editions about Kick the coverage
with Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern three
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you ever had somebody go over to well and then
you had to pat yourself in the back like I
(12:00):
have so many ads, I have to say my name wrong,
and then you brag about how rich you are in
the first thirty seconds I'm here. This is it's an
honor to be Most people would think, like, this is
a really awkward start to the conversation, but this is
so much better. We were talking off the air than
the conversation that I had with that girl last night
at the at the aquarium. Yeah, I literally started with
f you. I love that though, by the way, because
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I was going to ask you boring this. I've never
met you efficiently, I've seen you on the internet. Yes,
I enjoy the way you go about handling your business.
I think it's an we've never met, but I also
have impressed by by what you've done. So, Yeah, you've
got a nice beard, but everybody always has an opinion
of Clay Travis. And then as soon as I sit here,
(12:41):
I hear the story of you going to try and
to enjoy a whale shark class. It was unbelievable, the
whale shark and the Georgia Aquarium. And then the lady
just popped off and said she hated everything about your soul.
Basically like, well, Clay, this is like something I was
going to ask about and it just got thrown into it. Yeah,
And she said in addition to the fact that f
you to start the conversation, she said so that that
she was not happy to be at the aquarium because
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all the fish were oppressed. And I was like, I'd
never really have put the word oppression in conjunction with
a fish before, but now that I think about it,
like the oppressed fish would be an amazing band name
or something. Right if you were if you were out
there trying to think of a name for your band,
you're a high school kid going to school this morning, Like,
there you go, the oppressed fish. You can assige me
when you come Superstars. Well, I think you time you
throw fish in there, like hoody and blowfish is a
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wordable name. Yes, fish is something you can tag at
the end of any band name and it's normally gonna
do well for you know. But you also got to
think those oppressed fish, those fish are doing a life
sentence in there, you know what I mean. They don't
get back out. Nobody thinks about that whale shark being
in there for his entire life in there unless you
get a NEMO situation where they escape. Um, you know
they had that that That's a great movie. But but
other outside of the film universe very unlikely. Uh so,
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uh you live in Indianapolis. For people who don't know you,
you are a punter. We have a Brett Kern is
a good friend of mine. He loves you like you're
You're always out there for the brand. Today, let's start
this because they always get upset if I don't do it.
You hear for Buffalo Wild Wings, Yeah, Buffalo Wild Wings
has asked me to come chit chat about what they
have going on. And basically, if the Rams and Patriots
goes over overtime, which is what we're all banking on happening.
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NFC game, a f C game once overtime. Now, if
the Big one goes to overtime, Buffalo Wild Wings is
giving out free wings to America, and that is, honestly
something I think everybody can get behind, whether you love
Tom Brady or hate him, whether you think the twelve
year old McVeigh is gonna do well or not. I
think the free wings opportunity everybody should be banking on overtime.
And that's what we're here for, just to spread awareness
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that there's some free damn wings on the line here
whenever these two teams step on the field. Now you've
got a beard a little bit like me, but you
don't have sleeves on right now. And I gotta be honest,
you got a little Cobra Kai look going here, Johnny
with If you didn't have the beard, you'd have a
definite Johnny from Karate Kid, look going here. See I've
never seen the movie. You've never seen Craig Kid, not
once in my life. But I the kid did the thing,
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the crane thing. I get it. Why you haven't watched
Karate Kid. So when I was a child, I've been
learning this with my adventures with my friends on my show,
So we do a lot of talking about obviously relevant things.
My childhood. I had such bad a d D. I
think like you wouldn't watch movies no way I got
I had no time for that. I honestly have no
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clue how anybody did it. And I I know that
I've missed an entire chapter of my life. You gotta
go back in time and just look at all those
So that's one of the great things I've got three
boys is taking them back and watching you know, the
Back to the Future movies, like all of the movies
that I grew up watching, including Karate Kids. They love
them like they think the nineties is the greatest time
on the planet, right, And it's really cool to see
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through their eyes again and also recognize how awesome so
many of those movies are. So Oh, they have an
unbelievable life. I'm jealous of my kids. I'm jealous of
my kids and my wife. They have unbelievable gigs. The
thing about your kids is they aren't oppressed fish, so
they're gonna live a great life. It's gonna be a
good news everywhere. And they don't They can leave right,
They don't have to stay in the same place for
their entire life. Um Now, I always curious with kickers,
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when did you recognize that you had a powerful leg.
So like when you were like five, were you like
I could kick the ball a lot better than anybody else. Yeah,
So in soccer I always had a stronger leg than
anybody else naturally. Yeah, so that instead of watching movies
and all that stuff when I was a kid, I would, honestly,
my hobby was to kick a soccer ball against the
side of my house. So to drive your parents crazy.
They yeah, I drove them crazy, but it got me
out of the house and they hadn't listened to a thump.
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But it was nice to not have me around, I
think for a long time. And uh, whenever I was
a teenager, I was playing in a soccer game, was
indoor soccer game. It's called foot salt, and the ball
is a little bit heavier, right, so it's like a
smaller ball, it's a little heavier. I broke the bullies
arm right with a shot right bing, bang, boom, And
I think that was really the day that everybody was like,
this kid's leg is pretty strong. And then kind of
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one thing moved to another and the first time I
kicked a football, I kicked a six yard field goal,
and then it was just kind of from there. It
was business decision. Yeah, with my family, like, instead of
playing soccer, let's focus on taking three steps and making
money as opposed to seven miles. So that was kind
of the decision. I got real lucky. So did you
start playing in high school? Did? But yeah, junior year
of Uh, and you've never played football before that now
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and I never wants a pro This is either because
soccer was supposed to be the thing I was supposed
to play soccer. I got had a lot more universities
in colleges looking at me for soccer than for football.
I wouldn't go to practice. I just show up, like
with the fans on Friday's Kick. Our football team wasn't great,
but I generated a little bit of interest. Went to
a college kicking camp after my senior year, made a
sixty five yard field goal, missed a seventy yard field
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goal wide right. The next day, I had a offer
to West Virginia University in my cafeteria of high school
and I was like, yep, I heard it's a great
time in Morgantown, which I enjoyed having, and uh they
offered me first car shop. Did you ever burn a couch? Oh? Yeah, yeah,
we want a luck like there's a lot of celebrating there.
There's a lot of celebrating, and I was a very
small factor on a very good team, so I got
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to reap the benefits of like Pat White and Steve
Slayton being incredible football players. Did you overlap with Pacman
at all? Pacman was the year before me, but he
used to come back and train in the summer, So
I know the Pacman pretty well. Yeah, I know the
pac Man. So I always think of Morgantown, West Virginia,
which is an awesome place, and I think we're on
there as well. I always think it as like dead Wood, right,
Like it's like this crazy hidden place, like the idea
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that Chris Henry and Pacman Jones were there, and basically
I know they gotten a little bit of trouble, but
didn't get in that much trouble and then they suddenly
emerged like their dead bodies just buried on the hills
outside of Morgantown. Right. I'm not sure that I could
have looked like a dead body on a few occasions intown,
but I have not seen Deadwood, but I get it
dead Wood. I'm assuming it's bodies in the woods. Actually,
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I don't have a lot of woods on Deadwood. It's uh,
it's awesome. They're making a movie now. Al you watch television? Now?
Are you watching? Now? Are you still have a you
know what I mean? I dive into some stuff. I
saw that Ted Bundy tapes. How is that? It was interesting?
I haven't watched it. Terrible human man. It's been interesting
how the pop culture has talked about Ted Bundy. But
I watched a lot of documentaries. Have you watched the
Fire Festival? Oh yeah, come on, Billy McFarland, let's go.
(18:49):
How about Andy King? By the way, that guy is
a real one. He was a loyal guy. Anything for
water for old Billy McFarland, you gotta really respect that.
What's amazing to me about the Netflix and how some
of these document nary's take off it suddenly it seems
like everybody has seen them. So last night, even at
the at the at the media party, the number of
people who were talking about the Fire Festival documentary blew
my mind. And it's just crazy how something can take
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you go viral like that. In terms of watching a
documentary which I don't remember growing up, well, I think
we all remember when that fire festival promotion started right like,
I have a guy who works for me who wanted
to He was like trying to do things to earn
a ticket to go to Yeah, because he was all
about the social media influencers. For people who don't know,
this took place in the Bahamas and it was gonna
be this huge concert and it was almost entirely on
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a private island, almost entirely promoted through Instagram like influencers
like but a Hot Chicks basically basically that's all. It
was sports illustrated models and I G influencers, And I
had a guy in my office that wanted to go
bad and I like, I don't know, I didn't I
don't know if I didn't want to pay for him
to go or what happened. Something happened. So whenever through
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I was so upset that he wasn't there, Like whenever
there was like videos of people like strand yes, these
rich white kids stranded on him on the island in
the Bahamas at losing their minds on social media, which
is how it went viral again when it didn't actually
end up happening. So then getting a peek behind that,
I think everybody is interested in the documentaries. We're in
a documentary era right now because it's easy to make,
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it's cheap, and people want to know more about more things,
and it's like a woke society almost. Yeah, crazily. Uh,
when I was growing up, pressing press fits. Um, when
I was growing up, Like, the only real documentary I
remember is Hoop Dreams right there, Ian, you didn't see
documentaries maybe like Fahrenheit nine eleven or something like that.
Like there are a couple of them that have gotten
a lot of attention, but by and large, but now
with the Netflix and and everything else, it's like they
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take off and everybody suddenly is talking about it. So
I'm sure a lot of people listening to us right
now have seen that documentary. Um, what do you do now?
So you had your So you go to West Virginia.
You have an incredible average and I was pretty good.
I had a really strong LEGO wasn't great. So what
percentagury of kicks would you make? Seven? I think I
was like seventy four or seventy five, seventy three maybe
I was in that area there. I had really strong,
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like had no clue where the hell it was really
like a driver who like in golf, who can get
up in the tea box and you're gonna crush it,
but you have no idea where it's gonna be. Yeah.
And I started literally from my freshman year, first game,
so I went straight through. So the people of West
Virginia had to really go through some ebbs and flows
with me, which I appreciate them for. But I started
punting my last two years there. But it was the
college rollout punt, so we catched the ball. I didn't
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know how to punt. I would just run to this, yes, exactly,
try to get the ball in the ground and just
had let it roll right. He's gonna hit it as
hard as I can and hope it rolls. Uh. And
then Bill Polian said that he thought he could, like
it was athletic enough to figure out how the NFL punt,
which is just two steps. Yeah, he said, I think
you're athletic enough to figure it out. I was like, well,
we're gonna find out. I mean, there's a nightmare decision
(21:43):
for him. So I got drafted in the seventh round
and then a year later and make the team and
I'm kicking off the Super Bowl and I have no
clue what the hell I'm doing. There was no reason
for me to be there, and then I just kind
of worked, enjoyed my time, and got really lucky to
play eight years there. So I think it was Vanderjack,
like Peyton Manning called in an idio kick or whatever
it was. Did he ever insult you or do you
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have a better relationship as a punter with Peyton man
I knew going in there after Vanderjack messed that up
the relationship. I was like, Okay, here we go. Vanderjack
went to West Virginia. I went to West Virginia. I
like to drink. Vanderjack likes to drink. I knew I
was coming in with a couple of strikes against me,
but he enjoyed me. I think I think Peyton enjoyed
me a little bit. Hey he uh, he was the
perfect teammate, to be honest with you. He when I
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was a rookie, he would take me to places like
Peyton Mannings taken me to places. It was stupid. It
was just the dumbest thing ever. I was at a
Tennessee game with Peyton Manning, Bruce Pearl, pat and Uh,
the President of Tennessee was there. And I was there
with Peyton and like Anthony Gonzalez who's now a sitting senator,
and it was like I was a rookie. I was say,
there's no reason I'm supposed to be here. Lack and
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Chuck beers pretty well. Some people found that impressive. I
was like a dancing monkey for people, and I was
completely okay with me. What game did you go to?
Do you remember? It was a kick It was the
first game of the year. Uh, it was probably two
thousand it was two thousand nine. I don't remember what
it was. But the place was incredible, absolutely incredible. I
got to talk to the kickers before the game on
the field. It was really just a It was cool.
And Peyton was way too nice to me. He shouldn't
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have been as nice to me as he was. Um,
how much did you enjoy being in the NFL? Like?
And I would like to ask like people who were
involved in special teams, because your experience is a lot
different than the other guys. So, uh, when you were
actually in the NFL, were you like this is amazing.
I love every minute of it. What was your experience like? Yeah,
I mean I had a lot of fun. Man, The
NFL was incredible to me. Obviously paid very well. I
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got to take care of my family, my friends, everybody
was supposed to. I got a chance and experience a
lot of really cool things. And then towards the end
of like the first five six years, I loved every
day getting to work. I loved getting better at what
I was doing. There was only thirty two people who
had my job, so I was enjoying it. I was
getting good, getting very confident. And then I started hating
going to work. I just was sick of it, you
know I was. And what changed, well, I mean the
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GM hated me, right, So the GM was not a
fan of mine. He didn't what He didn't like you
because you drank it even like you're off the field.
Even when he got there, I didn't even drink anymore
because I had already gotten arrested. He didn't like the
way my Twitter was, so I was basically at this
point the voice of the colts in Indianapolis. My Twitter
was large. After I got into an alleged incident Clay.
The cops have their story, I have mine. It was
public intoxication. The city and State of India, the city
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of Indianapolis, State of Indiana kind of got behind me,
and my Twitter started slowly growing and growing. And then
when the new regime came in, they cut Peyton Manning,
they cut everybody. So the only person people that really
stayed around with me, even a Terry Robert mathis Reggie Wayne,
Anthony Gustanzo, and none of them were that active on
social media. So I was literally the biggest platform coming
out of the Colts, and then the new GM did
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not like that I was potentially a voice of anybody
of that building. And I mean it was it was
very It wasn't just him. I mean I had three
knee surgeries in like four years on my knees because
they were kind of getting worn out. It was just
a lot of things. I was falling in love with
what was happening off the field. I was doing stand up,
I was doing a lot of philanth philanthropic stuff. It
was just I I just didn't enjoy going to work
(24:59):
to kick ball some four towns anymore. So I just
was like, you know what, here we go. If people
are enjoying this interview, they can find you wear on Twitter. Uh,
It's it's not worth it. It's to follow. We have
too many. Uh No, it's at Pat McFie show, and
it's I used to be better on there when I
was smaller, I was better. Now you get nervous. Now
you overthink it or what do you do now? You
can't really do much interacting because everything whenever you're and
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I'm sure you get young about this. So if I
respond to somebody who like, I used to enjoy when
people would like talk trash to me, so that because
I wouldn't because as a punter, you can't talk trash. Mean,
there's so when I was playing soccer, I could talk trash.
When I was playing pick up basketball, when I was
a kid, I could talk trash. When I'm trah can't.
I can't trash talk anybody. Literally, there's nobody I could try.
I am the bottom of the totem pole in the
(25:43):
National Football League. So Twitter was like my escape, Like, okay,
so if this guy chirps at me, I could chirp
him back. Now I can't even do that. I can't
really because once I go after somebody, I have the
best people in the world follow me. They feel like
they got attack and now I'm the bad guy. So
it's like it kind of when I was smaller, was
a lot more fun. But now I just kind of
what my observations are in life and enjoy it. Pat
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McAfee show went out of all this caffee show too.
Pat mccaffee show, unbelievable. Why do you play? You came
in here, just dumped right on my face. Unbelievable. So uh,
in addition to this, you're doing a lot of stuff
I think I have. I need to look up this email.
I think we're doing a prop contest. Have you heard
(26:24):
about this? Were you informed on this old prop contest?
I'm trying to pull it up. And the wife, you
would think of all places, they would have incredible WiFi.
Here's cold outside. It's nowhere near the polar vortex over
there in America. It's like negative fifty in some place. Yeah,
I know, we had people calling in this morning. We're
trying to figure out who the coldest was. My heart
is with you, but Atlanta is nowhere near Southern Happy
(26:46):
warm Race. There's no doubt cold. We had to walk
four miles get here. It is cold outside. It's it's brutal.
You know, they shut down schools yesterday because I thought
it was gonna snow. I respect that. I respect that
a lot to shut her down. John Taffer in Atlanta.
They were prepared, all right, So here we're gonna do
these quickly, all right? Is that the way we're supposed
to do it? National anthem? You're going over over alright?
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Somebody keep tracking, keep track on these days. Well. I
do believe though that studies, like people that have been
watching film on her. I've been saying the under is
the smart bet. But I think the moment might get sore,
shoul might carry out a sea, you know what I mean.
And I think it's gonna be over strictly for America.
My bookie prop contest herein toss? Which way you're you going? Heads? Man?
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Always heads? Do you ever get to call the toss
one time? Would you go with? You win? Well? With heads?
Did you win? Yeah? Yeah? I felt really good about
it too. I mean that was the first time I
was allowed to speak. Basically, it was a fun moment.
What is the best hit you ever put on somebody
as a punter? Was there one guy with the trend
in holiday hit is the biggest because it was when
Peyton came back as the Broncos that Sunday night football
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is being viewed as like a playoff game. It was
big numbers, huge hit, terrible field position. So I didn't
do my job well at all. But I tackled trending
holiday that blew up. But before the social media phase,
like back in college, I was like to forty, we're
playing against like Eastern Washington. Like some of these little
kids and some of the returners are small. Yeah, I
used to catch some people. I used to really get
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some people. Whenever they didn't think I was you ever
get a concussion? I assume I didn't. I didn't wear
my strap, I didn't wear the strap underneath, and I
had terrible tackling for him. So I'm assuming that something.
My noggin has at least been knocked a couple of times. Uh.
First half spread you think the is crazy stat and
the Patriots have only scored three points in the first
quarter in their eight Super bowls so far. The Patriots
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are a half point first half spread favorite according to
this I like I like the Patriots in the first half.
I like the Patriots in the second half, But most importantly,
I like the Patriots in overtime, because if this game
goes to overtime, Clay Buffalo wild Wings, Free Wings in
two Sundays from now. I like the Patriots Brady do
you like him to have a lot of passing yards?
You know? One thirty nine and a half in the
first half, they got that three headed monster in the backfield,
(28:53):
and I honestly think if they can get that moving
somehow against that stout d line, I think it's gonna
be under. I think they're gonna be handing the rock
from the first half and then let Tom Brady take
in the second half. What once they see what the
defense is doing, uh total punts a half under. I
think it's gonna be So what about the fifty seven
yard What do you think about the misscall? By the way,
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you were if you were on the Saints, how sick
would you be? Well, I mean you've gotta be disgusted,
especially after the Minnesota miracle happened in Minneapolis miracle happened
the year before. That's Drew Brees. I think was about
to call it a day, like he hit every single record. Yeah,
I think he was about done. He was doing a
lot more of that shoulder shrug. At the end of
the year he had every single record. I assume that
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this was gonna be his last run and even if
they maybe even if they just lose that game out right,
potentially his last run. But after the miracle to Stefon
Diggs and then the bird box situation with dumb Refs,
I have no idea how Drew brees he has to
come back. It just has to be unsettling as a Saints.
How often are you up early in the morning? I
wake up pretty early. You want to come on the
show regularly because I think people would enjoy it? Sure? Man,
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you just get ahold of me? All right? Well do that?
Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked the coverage
with Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern, three
am Pacific. We got a guy now, who I bet
if I told him a year ago you're gonna be
nominated for Rookie of the Year and you're gonna be
walking around at the super Bowl would have said that
sounds like a pretty good conclusion to what was a
wild year for you. Philip Lindsay, Denver, Bronco running back, undrafted.
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But what does it feel like for you to be
here PEPSI Rookie of the Year challenge and be one
of the final nominees, and what can you tell for
people who might want to go ahead and make a
little bit of their voice heard for why you should
be that nominee. Yeah, first off, I want to saying
thank you guys for having me today to be here.
And yeah, pretty much for the Pepsie it's an honor
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to be able to be selected for this and and
there's some great uh contenders right now for us, so
hopefully uh I can win it. Um. I definitely need
the fans to help out, you know, and at the
fans you know, fans vote. It's a fan vote thing,
voted thing. So um, yeah, we we need on the
all the support I can get it. They're gonna announce
the winner of the contest tomorrow, Rookie of the Year
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contest sponsored by PEPSI. If I had told you on
draft night, sit there on the Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
you don't hear your name called, what was that experience? Like? Yeah,
I want to first off, you know, first start off
by saying that, um, the draft process is a grind,
but that day, those three days are probably one of
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the worst moments of your life. If you wanted the
first first pick of the draft because you're sitting there.
He eats you alive. It really does. I don't I
don't wish nobody has to go through it, and I
don't wish their families would have to go through It's
it's a bad feeling to have to wait for three
days straight for somebody to call your name. Did you
think you were going to be drafted, and if so,
where did you think you would be? Yeah? I for
sure thought I was gonna at least be drafted in
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the six seventh front. I think I had a strong
enough um college and then a college career. Yeah, I was.
I was consistent, and um, there's people being drafted that
played two years of college football and had no steps.
So UM, when I sit back and look at it,
I just it was. It's one of the things where
you know, I'm sitting here and thinking, all right, I'm
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gonna get drafted. I didn't know from who. And the
one thing I always say is that everybody calls and
UH tells you they're gonna draft you, and they don't.
And sometimes there was a time, uh where one of
the teams said, you know, uh, we're not gonna draft
the running back and you look up on the screen
two minutes later and they drafted a running back. So
it's just one of those things that it can eat
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you alive, and it can really frustrate you, uh and
bringing tears to your eyes and your family's eyes. Uh.
Philip lindsay, so you were sitting there for three days,
you don't get drafted. What did they tell you about
why you weren't drafted? Did you get any kind of
indication my my height, my my size, you just weren't
big enough with exactly. I mean, that's the only reason
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why I didn't go to the combine. But there was
people going to the combine that you've never heard of before,
but because because somebody felt that they they know best.
That's why. That's the funny thing about everybody is all
these analysts is everybody feels like they know what they're
talking about. But nobody can control you. Nobody can tell
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you what you're gonna be and what you wanna do.
You gotta go out there and do it, you know,
And that's that's that's period. It's a powerful story. No
matter who you are, what you do for a living,
everybody has to deal on some level with doubters, with
haters with people who don't believe that you're capable of
performing at the highest level. So you end up in
Denver Bronco training camp, right, you signed it as an
undrafted free agent. At what point when you showed up
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with the Broncos did you start to think, you know what,
I could do something here substantial, even in my rookie year. Yeah,
when I first got there. When I first got there,
I had that confidence, and you know, I knew I
need to earn respect from now, from the coaches and
definitely from the players. Your teammates. Your teammates matter. And
that first practice I went out there and I made
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I scored a touchdown the first time I was in
the next day, I did the same thing, and I
knew that IM gonna drap the free agent and it's
a slam chance. I wanna make it. If I don't,
I'm only getting about five reps and a practice, yes,
so I gotta make them count. I gotta be out there,
and I gotta be a dog on special teams. I
gotta be a dog in the in the weight room,
and I gotta be a dog when it comes to
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the meet. And that's that's what it's about it's about
outlasting people. And that's and I always tell people that
it's about outlasting And when when I knew that that
I can outlast people, I knew that I was gonna
be okay. A lot of people, probably who are around you,
and certainly a lot of people listening, think, oh, you
make the NFL. That guy's making so much money, right Like,
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you're making killions of millions of dollars the NFL league
minimum four eighty thousand dollars. You pay a lot of taxes,
so you know, I mean, it's not like you are
a rich guy yet necessarily, and in fact, you lived
with your mom for your entire rookie year. Tell people
about that. Who might I know that part of your story?
So I decided I'm home. It's about twenty minutes from
the facility, which is a gorgeous When you wake up
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in the more early in the morning, this sun hasn't
hasn't came out yet, and then you're driving in the
sun starts rise. It gives you time to think. So
it's farther enough away so that you can regroup your thoughts.
And so I figured, you know, i'm home. I get
to save my money up. I still pay you know,
bills from my mother and stuff like that, but I
get to save a lot of money, you know, and
and work my way up to buy in a condo
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because no matter what I do, when I'm done playing football,
I want to I wanna get a home in my
hometown in Colorado. You want to stay in Yeah, exactly.
So you're born and raised in Denver, you went to
Colorado to UH to play UH for you CE Boulder,
which is a big time pack twelfth program. Now you
get to play for the Denver Broncos. When you look
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at it now, does there seem like there was a
method that led to pain for you on draft night?
But maybe you ended up in the best possible situation. Yeah.
I mean everything happens for a reason. I'm a firm
believer of that. When I got hurt, everything it has timing.
God has ways of slowing you down when it's time
for you to slow down, or or going through obstacles
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that he knows that you need to go through to
become a better man, better woman. So that's how I believe.
I'm a firm believer in that. And Uh, like I said,
it was a tough I had a tough time in
college too. I had it. I had to. I had
to grind, you know. I had to grind From high school.
I got humble when I hurt my knee. Then I
got up to college. I was little, I was I
was a hundred and fifty pounds, you know what I mean.
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And I'm sitting here. What do you wait now about?
Proud of it too? You know? I mean, like all
that other stuff is cute. That combine stuff is cute.
Now that we're done with that, Like you say what
they want, I don't care, but yeah, it's about it's
about productivity. We're talking to Philip Lindsay Dever, Bronco running
back underrafted free agent nominee for Rookie of the Year
here Radio Row in Atlanta, Super Bowl fifty three. Yeah,
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I want to go back to living in uh In
with your mom. Do you have brothers and sisters too?
So do you sleep in your like kids like bedroom
or where do you sleep downstairs? Yeah? So? Uh my
city like so pretty much everybody's out the house now
everybody's everybody. Oh, everybody's out the house. Um, but I
sleep downstairs in the basement and stuff like that. So
I got my own own space and stuff like that.
But uh, it's just easy right now, you know, can
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you bring girls over? You know, I have a girlfriend
right now? But what is mom think of the girlfriend?
They have a good relationship, Yeah, they definitely do, I think.
So what's the reaction when guys find out in the
locker room that you're living at home with your mom?
First they they laugh, they tease, and then they start
to think. You know, yeah, that's when they come to me,
A couple of them. You know, I kind of wish,
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you know, I would have stayed at home. You're doing
the right way. It's a smart way right now. So
you said you start off your day early in the morning,
Sun's not even up. What is your typical day like
during the season for the Denver Broncos Because I think
people are curious about that too from the perspective of
I mean, you grind right, So so what what you
get up? You wake up at your at your house,
You eat breakfast with mom? So mom used my mom
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used to stay you know, sleep and stuff. So I
get up, you know, and uh get out the house.
You know, Uh clear my mind with with the driving
and stuf up. And then when I get to the facility,
there might be usually I'm the first one there. Man,
what time when you get to the facility about six
o'clock sometimes at but yeah, so it's still dark, usually
real dark outside. But I get everything situated, you know,
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get my mind right, go through my plays. Uh, you
know we usually lift in the morning, so so get
get ready for that and uh just kind of like
and you know, get back and sit back and enjoy
you know what has happened and enjoy that. I'm I'm
able to play this game still, you know. So you
have the off season now you've got a cast on
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your on your what what what's the recovery process there?
You expect to be better? Like, how what's your process? Um?
I can do everything, I can run, I can do
every single thing except put pressure on this right now
because it's it's healing. But uh, I should be be ready.
Uh you know, a boy o t s. But you
never know, injuries take time. Man, only god knows what's
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you know how long it's gonna take. So how much
different does this offseason feel for you now that you
know you have a role on the Denver Broncos compared
to what last year's offseason would have felt like, yeah,
it doesn't. It doesn't feel any different because I gotta grind.
Now we got a new coaching staff, I gotta I
gotta go and show again the consistency, show that that
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I can be consistent in the NFL, not just one
year two years. It's about being here four or five, six,
seven years. So it's about showing that and my mentality
how I work. I'm scared. I'm scared to fail, so
I'll grind all the time I'm working. I'm working. Ain't
the biggest, but I'm gonna give you everything I got.
You know what I mean. I don't care about the
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size and that I'm gonna do what I have to
do to protect my family to make sure they're okay.
What do you think of the new coaching staff so far?
I like them. I like them, you know. I think
that it's gonna be beneficial for myself and beneficial for
Case and and a lot of us, you know, And
I know the defenses is really excited. Um. You know,
our head coaches defense orientated man, and he's really good,
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So we're excited. Philip Lindsay will be rooting for you.
I know people have loved hearing from you. Are giving
people out your Twitter handle if people want to reach
out to you. Yeah, it's a twitters Philip, I see
you boy, And Instagram is a Philip Lindsay. All right,
people can find you on Twitter. Outstanding underscore boy. So,
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by by the way, when are you going to move
out of Mom's place? You know, I was thinking about
it this Uh, you know, a couple of months from now.
We're gonna see how it goes. You know, they're talking
about the lockout in two dozen twenty, so you might
want to save as much money as you can, so
you might stay there for a year too, might have to,
you know what I mean. You know it's she she
welcomes with open arms, and you know that's all. You know,
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I'm thankful for That's outstanding stuff. Philip Lindsay follow his
story incredible year with the Denver Broncos. Appreciate him joining
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