July 31, 2017 • 36 mins
It's the Best of Outkick the Coverage with Clay Travis. Clay wonders aloud why all the sports media talking heads who are criticizing NFL owners for not signing Colin Kaepernick aren't holding TV executives to the same standards, why Robert Griffin III isn't getting the same amount of coverage as Kaepernick considering their on-field numbers are comparable, and why more people aren't holding Kaepernick accountable for doing little to improve police/community relations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of out kicked the coverage with
Clay Travis on Fox Sports Radio. Well, that certainly applies
also to the Baltimore Ravens right now is they try
to decide what to do with the quarterback position. They're
debating a variety of different quarterbacks. R G three still
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sitting out there. And I've talked about this quite a bit.
Why is it that we talked so much about Colin
Kaepernick being unemployed and almost no one out there has
mentioned Robert Griffin the third. He and Colin Kaepernick are
very very similar quarterbacks. Both were guys that seemed like
they were going to become superstars. Colin Kaepernick makes a
run to the Super Bowl with Harbaugh r G three
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in his rookie season, his Rookie of the Year, and
for a while there it appeared that potentially he was
gonna be better than Andrew Luck. Everybody cascaded down absolute
total endorsement of RG three. He was going to be
the guy that saved the way Shington Redskins. He was
gonna be the guy that at long last returned the
Redskins to glory in our nation's capital. And then in
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the playoffs, first year he had a knee injury, never
really came back the next year. Kirk Cousins arises. Now
Kirk Cousins top ten or eleven quarterback in the NFL
in my opinion entering this season. And r G three
gets injured with the Cleveland Browns when he gets a
fresh start, and he's a shadow of the player that
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he used to be. The same thing is true of
Colin Kaepernick. Yet everyone is focused on Colin Kaepernick, no
one even mentioning RG three, and in particular, the media
out there is obsessed with carrying water with ball washing
for Colin Kaepernick. Never in the history of the sports
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media have I seen a player endorsed like Colin Kaepernick.
You can't put on ESPN without seeing somebody on television
lamenting the fact that Colin Kaepernick is not signed. Never
seen it before, Never seen anything like it for the
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left wing sports media to be up in arms over
the fact that Colin Kaepernick is not signed. And what
I said over the weekend that I thought was really interesting,
and I've said it for a while, is the media
is even now at ESPN. There are people at ESPN
defending Colin Kaepernick for saying that police are modern day
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slave catchers. That's how far down the rabbit hole of
defending Colin Kaepernick that ms ESPN has gone. They got
people on air saying, you know what, he's right when
he calls police officers modern day slave catchers. On My
mind almost exploded when I saw that over the weekend.
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That's how much in the tank the media is for
Colin Kaepernick. And when I see stories like these and
everybody that there's a bunch of people have been on
ESPN calling out owners saying, how dare you not signed
Colin Kaepernick. I've never seen anything like it before. And
the question that I have asked, and I tweeted this
on Saturday, the question that I have asked is if
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Colin Kaepernick is such an unbelievable asset to a sports business,
why would ESPN, Fox, CBS, and NBC none of them
even think about signing Colin Kaepernick to be on television
on their networks because he's bad for business. It's totally
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because he's bad for business. And if that is true
for all those networks, look, there are lots of guys
who have been signed over the years to be on
television to talk as athletes that are controversial, right, Jay
Cutler just got a job at Fox to call games.
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Jay Cutler has never been remotely good with the media.
Randy Moss got signed by Fox to come on and
break down games and then got signed by ESPN after
he left Fox, and that guy had no kind of
relationship with the media over the years. Ray Lewis might
well be a double murder, and he got signed by
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ESPN and then signed by Fox. To talk about the
NFL signing controversial, opinionated players that everybody knows to talk
about sports happens all the time. It's easy for all
these ESPN talking heads to sit around and rip the
NFL teams for not signing Colin Kaepernick. But my question
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for you is this, why won't they rip their own
networks for not signing him. If Colin Kaepernick is such
an incredible spokesperson and such an interesting figure, or shouldn't
the media companies be falling all over themselves to try
and sign them, especially at the quarterback position. Think about it.
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CBS just fell all over themselves to hire Tony Romo
to replace Phil Simms, and Tony Romo has never called
a game before. Quarterbacks that stir the pot that make
people care about what they think are gold bullion for
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sports television networks. Why is no one touching Colin Kaepernick.
It's because ESPN is not signing him for the same
reason that all thirty two NFL teams have not signed
him so far. So far because he's bad for business.
Colin Kaepernick is bad for business. And that's especially the
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case if you are Steve Bushatti, the owner of the
Baltimore Ravens. Your city has been beset by racial strife
between police officers and the community. Of all the cities
in America right now other than Chicago, I'm not sure
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there's a worse city to hire Colin Kaepernick to play
for your football team. Think about it. Do you want
to bring a guy into your city who has called
police officers modern day slave catchers when you're city relationship
between police and inner city residents is already the worst
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it has ever been. Do you want to bring in
Colin Kaepernick into your city when odds are he's not
even gonna play and the number one story of your
entire training camp and beyond is gonna be every single
player having to stand up and answer questions about Colin Kaepernick.
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People focus on the protest, guys. I think a protest
is secondary now because whether you agree or disagree with
the protest. And I think Colin Kaepernick is an idiot
and his protest has no basis in fact. And I
don't think he's intelligent enough to even answer questions of
a political fashion that would demonstrate he has any scintilla
of knowledge about the situations that he's protesting in our nation.
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That's why we've had a one year standing offer to
him to come on the show and just talk about
his political beliefs. I don't think he's smart enough to
do it. I don't think he has a coherent political philosophy.
But his protest of the national anthem, to me, pales
in comparison to his tweet that police officers are modern
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day slave catchers. That's so far beyond the pale of
acceptable discourse for a multibillion dollar corporation to meet. That's
the one he has to answer for that he's never
answered for. And in a city like Baltimore where the
police and citizen relationship is so fraught with peril, other
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than the city of Chicago, probably the worst in the
entire nation, right now they're talking about the possibility of
bringing in Kaepernick, give me a break. Be sure to
catch live editions of OutKick the Coverage with Clay Travis
weeknights at eleven pm Eastern eight pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Thursday, NFL
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is back this past weekend that just ended the last
weekend without football. As far as you can see Thursday
the Hall of Fame game on television, you'll be able
to watch. The NFL quarterback position is the focal points
so far in training camps. We now keep track of
all the different stats that go on. If you are
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a Jacksonville Jaguars fan, I'm sorry, Blake Bortles has already
thrown five interceptions in one two and a half hour practice.
If you are a Houston Texans fan, Deshaun Watson early
reviews good of him in his battle with Tom Savage,
which is probably the most interesting quarterback battle that exists
in the NFL, particularly because Houston is a team that's
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good enough if they ever found a quarterback to contend
for a championship. Uh, we have got the ongoing drama,
which is probably the number one story, certainly of the NFL.
Right now, what to do for the Baltimore Ravens. They're
pulling a Seattle Seahawks. Remember when the Seahawks brought out
Colin Kaepernick, interviewed him, considered hiring him, and then went
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and got somebody else that none of us have ever
heard of before. Now, the owner of the Baltimore Ravens
is acknowledging that they need a quarterback. He is evidently
consulting with ray Lewis. He is in the process of
trying to decide between potentially r G three and Colin Kaepernick.
We just shared all of the statistical data. Um that
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is that is really pretty interesting in and of itself
when you break down the comparison between r G three
and Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick has received all of the attention,
but when you actually break out their numbers, r G
three has a higher career completion percentage, he's averaged more
yards per passe attempt, and he has a better quarterback rating.
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That is a pretty big deal. Now Kaepernick has run
for more, we actually more for yards. What's the yardage
breakdown there? Um, They're basically the same quarterback when it
comes to running to Both have average six point one
yards per carry, and both have fumbled the ball about
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the same amount of times. Now, Kaepernick has run for
more yards and more touchdowns, but he's played in more games. Again,
Kaepernick is two and a half years older than r
G three. R G three, for all the story you
think about, all the things he's been through, He's still
only twenty seven years old. She's still relatively young for
a quarterback, whereas Colin Kaepernick will now this year in
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November turned thirty years old. All of those stats and
play as the Ravens try to decide what to do
with the quarterback position and every everything else associated with it. Danny,
g you wanted to respond to the right along caller
and really quick before that, Clay, I really think the
thing with r G three is about injuries. If injuries
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weren't that important in the Broncos, you know, they wouldn't
have got Jamal Charles for nothing. So staying on the
field and being healthy. How how many major operations has
r G three already had at such a young age.
I think that is the biggest reason why teams are
staying away from r G three. But the last caller
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that you put on I understand what he's saying about
how it would have been cool for Cap to go
on those ride alongs. I agree with that. But just
because he didn't do that, that doesn't mean he's never
put money out there in the community. He's donated seven
hundred thousand dollars, but that But what he's saying is
he's concerned with police relationship, like his number one protest,
right was the relationship between police and citizens. Right, Well,
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some of those organizations are tied to that, Okay, in
not in a way, not in a way that benefits police. Well,
but to say he hasn't put his money where his
mouth is, I think number one thing. No, I mean
I can see that. I can see that argument pretty
well because he hasn't in any way tried to improve
relationship between police officers and ment people in the community.
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Right That's the number one issue that he's got, is that,
in his opinion, which he's wrong on, police officers are
deciding to kill black people, like that's what Colin Kaepernick
is protesting. And some of those organizations are specifically geared
towards improving the relationships. No they aren't, they're not. No,
that not from a police perspective, not from a police perspective.
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He's trying to be involved of in the community like
they may be helping people in the community. He hasn't
done anything to help police. He's made police officers jobs
more difficult everywhere in the country. In fact, if we
just closed out every phone line right now, if I
Queen Sir seed him and I said, I only want
cops to call in right now, we got cops listening
in all fifty states right now, and I said, I
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only want cops to call in. Has Colin Kaepernick major
job easier or more difficult? I bet every single one
of them would say he's made the job more difficult.
He hasn't done anything to help police. In fact, he
called them modern day slave catchers, like a month and
a half ago, all races. Sure, there are a lot
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of black guys out there putting themselves on the line
every day. Didn't necessarily like being compared to slave catchers,
Asian guys, Hispanic guys, white guys. It's unbelievable. So yeah,
he hasn't done anything. I mean, he's gone out and
he's given money to community organizations, but he's focused on
the community side of the individual side as opposed to
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the police side. But but if that's what I mean,
we don't have to agree with that, and I'm not
saying that I do or I don't. But the point
is that's what he believes in, and he's putting money
towards that, So for somebody one side, though, he's not
trying to actually bring people together. The point the caller made,
I think, is a good one. If Colin Kaepernick went
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out and he embraced the police officers in his community,
he would make it safer for the people in those
communities who he's concerned about. Right, the way to make
police officer relationships better with citizens is not to call
police officers slave catchers. Right is not to wear socks
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with police depicted as pigs. That's not in any way
helping the relationship, and in fact, it's actually making it worse.
So picking one side and saying, like people do, the
community does nothing wrong. It's all police officers who are
racist is not making things better or in any way
in my opinion, it's just inflaming the relationship and making
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it more likely that police and community members are going
to have violent confrontations. I do agree that he kind
of screwed himself with those big socks, but the pig
socks at least, and I agree, look that was dumb,
but he could have made up for the pick socks.
To me, the pick socks was stupid, right, I mean,
that's an example of a guy. It's the same thing
when he showed up with the Fidel Castro t shirt.
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It's a guy who wasn't very intelligent about the way
that he was choosing to protest. I like to always
use the example of it's not just about protesting, it's
about protesting in a way that increases the amount of
allies you can have, right, I mean, that's what changes things.
So if Colin and the example I like to use
there is think about how strategic the civil rights movement
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was in the American South. And I've said this on
the radio before, but I think it bears repeating. And
I would encourage you guys, if you want to know
about history, don't try to listen to somebody like Colin Kaepernick.
Go read your own self. Go read Taylor brand Itches
Parting the Waters trilogy about the American Civil Rights movement.
It's an incredible, magisterial work of history. It will take
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you through the entire process, you'll learn so much more.
You will have a much better comprehension of what went
on in the civil rights movement in the nineteen sixties
and beyond and before that. And if you read that book,
and it starts with the Martin Luther King protest down
in Montgomery, Alabama, Rosa Parks was not the first person
to give up her seat, to refuse to give up
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her seat and move to the back of the bus.
She was the best advocate that they had to make
the face of the protest. She was single, she was
without children. She was a really good face of a protest.
Colin Kaepernick is not a good face of a protest
right now. He wore the pig socks. Even worse than that,
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after that protest had begun, he wore the Fidel Castro shirt.
And then to what I believe to be the most
indefensible thing he has done in his entire career, he
equated all police officers to modern day slave catchers. Not
possible to defend him. I wouldn't employ him at OutKick
the coverage. I bet we wouldn't employ him at Fox
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Sports Radio if I came on. You guys know that
I'm as outspoken as can possibly be. If I came
on and said that, I think I would get fired
on a radio show because police officers would rightly say,
wait a minute, why in the world is Fox Sports
Radio employing a guy who just came on their station
and said police officers are modern day slave catchers. I'm
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not sure I'd lose my job for that, but I
think I would have a good chance. I think there
would be a good chance that would happen. I think
there'd be a very good chance. If you had a
public job, no matter what you do, that you would
probably lose your job too if you said that. I
think so. If Colin Kaepernick said it to me, that's
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the thing you can't get past. People are like, oh,
the protest everything else. By far, the worst thing Colin
Kaepernick has said or done since he became in the
public eye is say that police officers are modern day
slave catchers. That's not something I mean. Again, I wouldn't
employ somebody who said or wrote that at OutKick That's
my choice. I got a multimillion dollar business, I wouldn't
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do it. All these NFL owners have multibillion dollar businesses.
They won't do it all these television networks. Jay Cutler
gets hired, Tony Romo, Tim Tebow, Ray Lewis, Big name
football players get hired on TV because they bring ratings.
Why will ESPN, NBC, CBS, and Fox not hier Colin
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Kaepernick to talk on television because they know you would
kill their business for the same reason. All these NFL
owners are not doing it. So all these media people
who are employed by all these big companies, they're saying,
why won't NFL teams employee Colin Kaepernick? I want you
to turn the tables on them, say why won't your
organization employee Colin Kaepernick. It's easy to work at ESPN
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and call out NFL teams and say, oh, these thirty
two NFL teams they're awful. How in the world can
they not employ Colin Kaepernick? Why don't you call out
your own business? Why will ESPN not employee Colin Kaepernick?
Why will Fox? Why will CBS? Why will NBC? Why
will none of them employe Colin Kaepernick on their television
networks because he's bad for business. Because the first thing
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they'll hear as soon as they sign him is the
Fraternal Order of Police will say Hey, do you believe
what Colin Kaepernick said that we're modern day slave catchers?
Definitely a guarantee you if Baltimore signs Colin Kaepernick, the
police department in Baltimore is immediately going to say, why
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in the world would you sign a guy who just
compared us all the modern day slave catchers? Why in
a combustible powder keg of a situation in a city
like Baltimore, Or would you bring in a guy like
Colin Kaepernick who has made the comments that he has
about police officers. I think if Colin Kaepernick got signed
in Baltimore, it would make the situation on the streets
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of Baltimore worse for police officers and worse for citizens
in the community. It would ratchet up tensions to another
level other than Chicago. I'm not sure there's a worse
NFL city for police community relations right now than Baltimore.
Chicago probably number one, Baltimore number two, and frankly, it
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might be Baltimore number one, Chicago number two. I think
Baltimore right now per capita is leading the nation, and
murders and everything has fallen apart in Baltimore ever since
they started riding over the Freddy Gray situation. Police officers
are at a loss. Ray Lewis tried to speak out
about it. Be sure to catch live editions about kick
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the Coverage with Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern
three am Pacific. Of course, the big story continues to
be what is going to happen with Colin Kaepernick? And
now we've all tied it in Colin Kaepernick r G three,
it appears like the American IDOL two finalists to be
the backup singer for Joe Flacco in Baltimore. What should happen?
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What will happen there? Jason Martin, you ran through the
stats for people wake at the country. Despite the fact
that Colin Kaepernick has gotten all the attention, RG three
stats are pretty much the exact same as Colin Kaepernick's
over the course of their careers. One caveat. Obviously, r
G three has had injuries, but r G three is
two and a half years younger than Colin Kaepernick as well,
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so RG three um and Colin Kaepernick. Even though Kaepernick
has been the most covered, I believe this is true
now the most covered NFL free agent in the history
of the sport. R G three also has been a
free agent, nobody has been paying attention to him, and
now they're the two finalists potentially to get the job
in Baltimore. Yeah, and I think it'll be interesting to
see how it plays out. R G three he has
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thrown four two less passes than Colin Kaepernick, and the
one advantage that you can really look at and see
between these two guys four Colin Kaepernick, if you're on
that side, is seventy two touchdowns to thirty interceptions for
his career forty two touchdowns to twenty six interceptions for
r G three, both of them with the same number
of fumbles, but obviously a lot more on field time
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for Kaepernick during that time. The passer rating between the
two almost identical in the regular season. The rushing numbers,
if you were to take them season by season, if
r G three had carried about as many times, they'd
be somewhere probably in the same vicinity, although I think
r G three might have more touchdowns, So I don't
think that if you if you just look at it
from a numbers perspective, there's definitely reason to look at
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r G three. But I do think the injury thing
is huge because I don't think the guy can stay healthy,
and his major advantage was not in the pocket. It
was him being able to run, and that's what he
can't do anymore, which has kind of made him not
somebody that you would want to sign. That's just making
a little bit of a case for Kaepernick over r
G three, who I do think has had the better
career and is the better player at this point. I
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don't understand why either of these guys, frankly, would be
who Baltimore looks to replace Joe Flacco, because Joe Flacco
is a stationary pocket passing quarterback and neither r G
three nor Colin Kaepernick have proven themselves to be capable
passers inside the pocket. So I don't know why it
would make sense, frankly, for either one of these guys
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to be the replacement for for Joe Flacco, because it
would appear to me that you would have to change
up the playbook substantially. Now maybe I'm wrong, but its
just that when I look at what they run in Baltimore,
it's a typical pro style offense. I don't know why
it would make sense for either of these guys, And
obviously the answer is you hope neither of these guys,
if you're Baltimore ever takes a snap because you want
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Flacco to remain healthy and play throughout. By the way,
we're talking about the Baltimore UH police and community relations
and how fraught they are. Baltimore is the number two
murder murder capital in America from a per capita basis,
so and ever since the protest over the Freddie Gray
incident have happened, the murder rate in Baltimore has skyrocketed.
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So if you're look to me, this is a powder
keg situation. This is literally the worst possible city, probably
other than potentially Chicago, for Colin Kaepernick to go into
because he said that police officers are modern day slave catchers.
And already the tensions in the community in Baltimore are
at a high level. I don't see how Colin Kaepernick
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makes things better at all. There. Let's go to your
calls eight seven, seven, six three nine Ronald and Augusta.
What's up, Ronald say, thanks play for letting me on
to discuss why I agree with Colin Kaepernick for not,
you know, standing and putting his hand over his heart
for a corporate theme song that everyone refers to as
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the national anthem, which is really a theme song for corporation.
USA is a corporation. Corporations have president, secretaries, and treasurers,
and that same corporation has converted all living souls into persons, individuals, residents, citizens,
and domiciled, which you likely know as a lawyer, I
studied the law. If you study civil procedure, you'll know
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that everything within a state, which is really a country. Okay,
what are you what are you saying here? You think
Colin Kaepernick's right for protesting police violence? Yeah, because the
police are actually committing fraud. Now, I verified this with
all police headquarters in the FBI to special Agent Johnson
or Sergeant Smith of the police, those are fake title names.
So when they write those citations or contracts and put
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Sergeant Smith on there with a badge number, that's not
a legal name. So those cops are committing commercial fraud
and they're converting people from living souls into slave titles
such as person, resident, individual, citizen, in domiciled. Not to
mention operation, is this a real call? Like? Are you
certifiably insane? No? What do you do for? What do
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you do for a living Ronald? I? Was a counter
terrorism analyist for thirteen years, and now I make future
films and documentaries about this very subject. In fact, one
of my movies Hollywoodn't Fine hang up on Him. I
think this guy is a true lunatic. It's rare that
we get a caller and I'm like, I think this
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guy is like a true insane person. I think Ronald
was insane. Around the horn? Is Ronald insane? Jason Martin, Yep,
That's why I wanted you to leave with him. Danny
g and Robert, do you think Ronald was insane? Uh?
Insane is a heavy word. And he just, you know,
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he went down a rabbit hole and and you know,
just came out with the difference. It was probably about
saying was an inside job, Robert, like we were, we
were on the path to leave. You're right, I should
have gone. I should have completely gone with did uh?
What did we did? We blow up the World Trade
centers on our own. Yeah, he's dead, kated. I'm gonna
look for his film in the box of my house.
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Oh my god. Well, there's Colin Kaepernick's big fan. Ronald
and Augusta. Everything is everything is a sham. Let's go
to j D in Virginia. What's up, j D? Hey,
how are you doing? I'm maxillent? How are you? I'm good. Um,
I'm calling Big Smoo to argue about um whether Colin
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Kaepernick makes the job more dangerous for police officers. I
was the police officer for fifteen years, and I know
that people minority, minorities, and people that are at a
lower financial station already have negative views of the police.
Colin didn't ratchet that up. I disagree. I disagree. I
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think he made relations worse. I don't. I don't think so.
Do you think that you think that a guy saying
to a predominantly minority audience that police officers are modern
a slave catchers like makes people have a better relationship
with the police. Well, if you history Clay that has
some truth to that has zero truth to it. Anybody
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who is arguing that it has any truth to it
at all is an imbecile and an idiot. No I do.
Let's hang up, gonna give a history lesson, Let's hang up. Look,
first of all, the history of police does not originate
in the United States, right, So everybody out there who's
like and by the way, there's some ESPN people endorsing
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this idea, which I think is total insanity. Even crazier
than that first call. Police officers are not modern day
slave catchers, okay, the first police officers in the world.
We're primarily at least that we follow. And I can't
believe I have to give a lesson now on the
history of police, but the form of government that we follow.
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In terms of police, most of our police laws came
from England, and in England, police officers existed not to
catch slaves, all right. The first police officers in the
United States when we first came over here, the first
constables had nothing to do with slaves, all right, because
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initially there were not slaves in this country. In the
Northeast where the first police officers were, they were not
in the business of pursuing people under the fugitive slave law. Now,
did police officers enforce the law that was on the
books at the time that slaves were property, Yes, But
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they enforced all sorts of laws that since have been changed.
The job of the police officer, at its most basic
level is to follow the rules and laws that are
promulgated by a society. As those rules and laws change,
then their enforcement mech is ms change as well. This
what Colin Kaepernick is trying to say that police officers
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are modern day slave catchers is flagrantly wrong, both in
a modern era and inflammatory, but also historically. There is
no basis in truth for it. There's just not. The
police officers are in charge of enforcing the law at times,
did our laws reflect that slaves or property and should
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be returned to their owners. Yes, just like today our
laws reflect that cars are the property of owners and
if they're stolen, they should be given back to their owners.
Police officers enforce the laws that are written on the books.
They don't make the law themselves. I don't know why.
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That's a complex mechanism to follow, but a lot of
people can't follow it. If in the years ahead we
side that laws are different than police officers apply laws differently.
I'll give you an example. In many states now, the
laws as it pertains to marijuana have changed substantially. Police
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officers don't decide what the law is. They are told
what the law is, and then they enforce it. This
idea that police officers are all powerful and deciding what
the law is is flagrantly wrong and frankly illustrative of
people who don't understand how our government actually works. One
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of those people would be Colin Kaepernick, who has been
involved in a misguided protest from the moment he first
took a knee. And I've said this before, but if
you haven't heard it, you need to hear it. Colin
Kaepernick's protests never made any sense, all right when he
took a knee during the national anthem. Now we can
have a debate about whether or not the national anthem
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should be played before sporting events. I think it's strange,
okay for because to me, a sporting event, particularly a
pro sporting event, is entertainment, just like most of you
would probably think it was strange if you walked into
a movie theater and they played the national anthem before
you sat down. I went and watched the Emoji Movie
with my nine, six and two year old. Just yes,
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I know, thank you. That's what you do when you're
a parent, You go watch bad movies. But if they
had played the national anthem before the Emoji Movie and
some of you had taken your kids out, I'm sure
some of you listening right now did have to go
watch that movie. If you had to stand up and
give an in salute during the national anthem playing before
the Emoji movie, you'd be like, this is kind of weird.
So if you want to have a debate about whether
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or not the national anthem should exist, that's fine. But
when Colin Kaepernick took a knee and protested the national anthem,
and in particular said he was protesting the killing of
minorities by police officers, his protests made no sense because
what he was protesting and a lot of people don't
understand this, and I think it's because most people in
sports media aren't very smart. But what Colin Kaepernick was
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protesting was already being done. He wanted more scrutiny of
police shootings by the federal government that was already happening.
Barack Obama and Loretta Lynch were already conducting their own
investigations of police shootings on top of local investigations, to
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ensure that people didn't get away with crimes that they
committed in the event that they shot an innocent person.
So Colin Kaepernick was protesting and demanding something from his
federal government that was already taking place. I don't think
he was intelligent enough to understand that what he was
protesting was what he was demanding had already taken place.
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And the analogy that I make, which is a little
bit of a funny one, but it's similar, is Colin
Kaepernick basically walked into McDonald's, took a knee inside that
restaurant and said, I'm gonna protest here because it's eleven
o five and I want breakfast right now. And then
the manager comes out and he says, hey, we offer
breakfast day a McDonald's now. And then Colin Kaebernick's like, oh,
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he's protesting and demanding an action that is already taking place.
And then he said, I'm going to stop the protest,
and he stopped the protest right as the government Donald
Trump got elected in Jeff Sessions became Attorney General, and
they changed the aggressiveness with which they're reviewing police shootings.
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So he literally protested when things were going his way
and stopped his protest when things were not going his way.
He literally could not be dumber in his protest. Moreover,
he's protesting the federal government doing what he wants them
to do. An easy analogy here that also would play
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out if Colin Kaepernick were really brave, and he wanted
to protesting something that the federal government did. He could
have taken a knee and said, you know what, I
don't believe that gay people should get married. That would
be approach test against the United States government doing something
that he might disagree with. Do you think all the
people right now advocating for Colin Kaepernick for taking a
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knee stupidly in a protest that made no sense would
be advocating for his First Amendment rights if he had
taken a knee to protest gay marriage, of course not.
In fact, if anybody was trying to sign him, they'd
be saying, we're going to protest the company that signed him.
Most people who acted out here and wave a First
Amendment flag or try to defend Colin Kaepernick aren't defending
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Colin Kaepernick at all. They're defending the belief that they
have that's the same as Colin Kaepernick. They're using Colin
Kaepernick as an excuse to be able to advocate for
perspectives that they believe. Kaepernick's a fool. He protested something
that made no sense, and then he took it a
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step further and said something that wasn't true. From a
historical perspective that police or modern day slave catchers. And
for that he's so far is partly unemployed. Now, if
he's been really good at quarterback, he would have gotten
hired anyway. But he's not really good at quarterback. And
as I've been saying from the very minute that this
story started, this is true across the board, in all
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walks of life. You will always be employed in this
country so long as your talent exceed your problems. What
Colin Kaepernick has learned, unfortunately for him, is that his
problems vastly exceed his talents, and that is why he's unemployed.
This is the best of out kicked the coverage with
Clay Travis on Fox Sports Radio. Well, that certainly applies
also to the Baltimore Ravens right now is they try
to decide what to do with the quarterback position. They're
debating a variety of different quarterbacks. R G three still
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sitting out there. And I've talked about this quite a bit.
Why is it that we talked so much about Colin
Kaepernick being unemployed and almost no one out there has
mentioned Robert Griffin the third. He and Colin Kaepernick are
very very similar quarterbacks. Both were guys that seemed like
they were going to become superstars. Colin Kaepernick makes a
run to the Super Bowl with Harbaugh r G three
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in his rookie season, his Rookie of the Year, and
for a while there it appeared that potentially he was
gonna be better than Andrew Luck. Everybody cascaded down absolute
total endorsement of RG three. He was going to be
the guy that saved the way Shington Redskins. He was
gonna be the guy that at long last returned the
Redskins to glory in our nation's capital. And then in
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the playoffs, first year he had a knee injury, never
really came back the next year. Kirk Cousins arises. Now
Kirk Cousins top ten or eleven quarterback in the NFL
in my opinion entering this season. And r G three
gets injured with the Cleveland Browns when he gets a
fresh start, and he's a shadow of the player that
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he used to be. The same thing is true of
Colin Kaepernick. Yet everyone is focused on Colin Kaepernick, no
one even mentioning RG three, and in particular, the media
out there is obsessed with carrying water with ball washing
for Colin Kaepernick. Never in the history of the sports
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media have I seen a player endorsed like Colin Kaepernick.
You can't put on ESPN without seeing somebody on television
lamenting the fact that Colin Kaepernick is not signed. Never
seen it before, Never seen anything like it for the
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left wing sports media to be up in arms over
the fact that Colin Kaepernick is not signed. And what
I said over the weekend that I thought was really interesting,
and I've said it for a while, is the media
is even now at ESPN. There are people at ESPN
defending Colin Kaepernick for saying that police are modern day
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slave catchers. That's how far down the rabbit hole of
defending Colin Kaepernick that ms ESPN has gone. They got
people on air saying, you know what, he's right when
he calls police officers modern day slave catchers. On My
mind almost exploded when I saw that over the weekend.
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That's how much in the tank the media is for
Colin Kaepernick. And when I see stories like these and
everybody that there's a bunch of people have been on
ESPN calling out owners saying, how dare you not signed
Colin Kaepernick. I've never seen anything like it before. And
the question that I have asked, and I tweeted this
on Saturday, the question that I have asked is if
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Colin Kaepernick is such an unbelievable asset to a sports business,
why would ESPN, Fox, CBS, and NBC none of them
even think about signing Colin Kaepernick to be on television
on their networks because he's bad for business. It's totally
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because he's bad for business. And if that is true
for all those networks, look, there are lots of guys
who have been signed over the years to be on
television to talk as athletes that are controversial, right, Jay
Cutler just got a job at Fox to call games.
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Jay Cutler has never been remotely good with the media.
Randy Moss got signed by Fox to come on and
break down games and then got signed by ESPN after
he left Fox, and that guy had no kind of
relationship with the media over the years. Ray Lewis might
well be a double murder, and he got signed by
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ESPN and then signed by Fox. To talk about the
NFL signing controversial, opinionated players that everybody knows to talk
about sports happens all the time. It's easy for all
these ESPN talking heads to sit around and rip the
NFL teams for not signing Colin Kaepernick. But my question
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for you is this, why won't they rip their own
networks for not signing him. If Colin Kaepernick is such
an incredible spokesperson and such an interesting figure, or shouldn't
the media companies be falling all over themselves to try
and sign them, especially at the quarterback position. Think about it.
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CBS just fell all over themselves to hire Tony Romo
to replace Phil Simms, and Tony Romo has never called
a game before. Quarterbacks that stir the pot that make
people care about what they think are gold bullion for
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sports television networks. Why is no one touching Colin Kaepernick.
It's because ESPN is not signing him for the same
reason that all thirty two NFL teams have not signed
him so far. So far because he's bad for business.
Colin Kaepernick is bad for business. And that's especially the
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case if you are Steve Bushatti, the owner of the
Baltimore Ravens. Your city has been beset by racial strife
between police officers and the community. Of all the cities
in America right now other than Chicago, I'm not sure
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there's a worse city to hire Colin Kaepernick to play
for your football team. Think about it. Do you want
to bring a guy into your city who has called
police officers modern day slave catchers when you're city relationship
between police and inner city residents is already the worst
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it has ever been. Do you want to bring in
Colin Kaepernick into your city when odds are he's not
even gonna play and the number one story of your
entire training camp and beyond is gonna be every single
player having to stand up and answer questions about Colin Kaepernick.
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People focus on the protest, guys. I think a protest
is secondary now because whether you agree or disagree with
the protest. And I think Colin Kaepernick is an idiot
and his protest has no basis in fact. And I
don't think he's intelligent enough to even answer questions of
a political fashion that would demonstrate he has any scintilla
of knowledge about the situations that he's protesting in our nation.
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That's why we've had a one year standing offer to
him to come on the show and just talk about
his political beliefs. I don't think he's smart enough to
do it. I don't think he has a coherent political philosophy.
But his protest of the national anthem, to me, pales
in comparison to his tweet that police officers are modern
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day slave catchers. That's so far beyond the pale of
acceptable discourse for a multibillion dollar corporation to meet. That's
the one he has to answer for that he's never
answered for. And in a city like Baltimore where the
police and citizen relationship is so fraught with peril, other
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than the city of Chicago, probably the worst in the
entire nation, right now they're talking about the possibility of
bringing in Kaepernick, give me a break. Be sure to
catch live editions of OutKick the Coverage with Clay Travis
weeknights at eleven pm Eastern eight pm Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Thursday, NFL
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is back this past weekend that just ended the last
weekend without football. As far as you can see Thursday
the Hall of Fame game on television, you'll be able
to watch. The NFL quarterback position is the focal points
so far in training camps. We now keep track of
all the different stats that go on. If you are
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a Jacksonville Jaguars fan, I'm sorry, Blake Bortles has already
thrown five interceptions in one two and a half hour practice.
If you are a Houston Texans fan, Deshaun Watson early
reviews good of him in his battle with Tom Savage,
which is probably the most interesting quarterback battle that exists
in the NFL, particularly because Houston is a team that's
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good enough if they ever found a quarterback to contend
for a championship. Uh, we have got the ongoing drama,
which is probably the number one story, certainly of the NFL.
Right now, what to do for the Baltimore Ravens. They're
pulling a Seattle Seahawks. Remember when the Seahawks brought out
Colin Kaepernick, interviewed him, considered hiring him, and then went
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and got somebody else that none of us have ever
heard of before. Now, the owner of the Baltimore Ravens
is acknowledging that they need a quarterback. He is evidently
consulting with ray Lewis. He is in the process of
trying to decide between potentially r G three and Colin Kaepernick.
We just shared all of the statistical data. Um that
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is that is really pretty interesting in and of itself
when you break down the comparison between r G three
and Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick has received all of the attention,
but when you actually break out their numbers, r G
three has a higher career completion percentage, he's averaged more
yards per passe attempt, and he has a better quarterback rating.
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That is a pretty big deal. Now Kaepernick has run
for more, we actually more for yards. What's the yardage
breakdown there? Um, They're basically the same quarterback when it
comes to running to Both have average six point one
yards per carry, and both have fumbled the ball about
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the same amount of times. Now, Kaepernick has run for
more yards and more touchdowns, but he's played in more games. Again,
Kaepernick is two and a half years older than r
G three. R G three, for all the story you
think about, all the things he's been through, He's still
only twenty seven years old. She's still relatively young for
a quarterback, whereas Colin Kaepernick will now this year in
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November turned thirty years old. All of those stats and
play as the Ravens try to decide what to do
with the quarterback position and every everything else associated with it. Danny,
g you wanted to respond to the right along caller
and really quick before that, Clay, I really think the
thing with r G three is about injuries. If injuries
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weren't that important in the Broncos, you know, they wouldn't
have got Jamal Charles for nothing. So staying on the
field and being healthy. How how many major operations has
r G three already had at such a young age.
I think that is the biggest reason why teams are
staying away from r G three. But the last caller
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that you put on I understand what he's saying about
how it would have been cool for Cap to go
on those ride alongs. I agree with that. But just
because he didn't do that, that doesn't mean he's never
put money out there in the community. He's donated seven
hundred thousand dollars, but that But what he's saying is
he's concerned with police relationship, like his number one protest,
right was the relationship between police and citizens. Right, Well,
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some of those organizations are tied to that, Okay, in
not in a way, not in a way that benefits police. Well,
but to say he hasn't put his money where his
mouth is, I think number one thing. No, I mean
I can see that. I can see that argument pretty
well because he hasn't in any way tried to improve
relationship between police officers and ment people in the community.
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Right That's the number one issue that he's got, is that,
in his opinion, which he's wrong on, police officers are
deciding to kill black people, like that's what Colin Kaepernick
is protesting. And some of those organizations are specifically geared
towards improving the relationships. No they aren't, they're not. No,
that not from a police perspective, not from a police perspective.
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He's trying to be involved of in the community like
they may be helping people in the community. He hasn't
done anything to help police. He's made police officers jobs
more difficult everywhere in the country. In fact, if we
just closed out every phone line right now, if I
Queen Sir seed him and I said, I only want
cops to call in right now, we got cops listening
in all fifty states right now, and I said, I
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only want cops to call in. Has Colin Kaepernick major
job easier or more difficult? I bet every single one
of them would say he's made the job more difficult.
He hasn't done anything to help police. In fact, he
called them modern day slave catchers, like a month and
a half ago, all races. Sure, there are a lot
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of black guys out there putting themselves on the line
every day. Didn't necessarily like being compared to slave catchers,
Asian guys, Hispanic guys, white guys. It's unbelievable. So yeah,
he hasn't done anything. I mean, he's gone out and
he's given money to community organizations, but he's focused on
the community side of the individual side as opposed to
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the police side. But but if that's what I mean,
we don't have to agree with that, and I'm not
saying that I do or I don't. But the point
is that's what he believes in, and he's putting money
towards that, So for somebody one side, though, he's not
trying to actually bring people together. The point the caller made,
I think, is a good one. If Colin Kaepernick went
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out and he embraced the police officers in his community,
he would make it safer for the people in those
communities who he's concerned about. Right, the way to make
police officer relationships better with citizens is not to call
police officers slave catchers. Right is not to wear socks
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with police depicted as pigs. That's not in any way
helping the relationship, and in fact, it's actually making it worse.
So picking one side and saying, like people do, the
community does nothing wrong. It's all police officers who are
racist is not making things better or in any way
in my opinion, it's just inflaming the relationship and making
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it more likely that police and community members are going
to have violent confrontations. I do agree that he kind
of screwed himself with those big socks, but the pig
socks at least, and I agree, look that was dumb,
but he could have made up for the pick socks.
To me, the pick socks was stupid, right, I mean,
that's an example of a guy. It's the same thing
when he showed up with the Fidel Castro t shirt.
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It's a guy who wasn't very intelligent about the way
that he was choosing to protest. I like to always
use the example of it's not just about protesting, it's
about protesting in a way that increases the amount of
allies you can have, right, I mean, that's what changes things.
So if Colin and the example I like to use
there is think about how strategic the civil rights movement
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was in the American South. And I've said this on
the radio before, but I think it bears repeating. And
I would encourage you guys, if you want to know
about history, don't try to listen to somebody like Colin Kaepernick.
Go read your own self. Go read Taylor brand Itches
Parting the Waters trilogy about the American Civil Rights movement.
It's an incredible, magisterial work of history. It will take
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you through the entire process, you'll learn so much more.
You will have a much better comprehension of what went
on in the civil rights movement in the nineteen sixties
and beyond and before that. And if you read that book,
and it starts with the Martin Luther King protest down
in Montgomery, Alabama, Rosa Parks was not the first person
to give up her seat, to refuse to give up
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her seat and move to the back of the bus.
She was the best advocate that they had to make
the face of the protest. She was single, she was
without children. She was a really good face of a protest.
Colin Kaepernick is not a good face of a protest
right now. He wore the pig socks. Even worse than that,
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after that protest had begun, he wore the Fidel Castro shirt.
And then to what I believe to be the most
indefensible thing he has done in his entire career, he
equated all police officers to modern day slave catchers. Not
possible to defend him. I wouldn't employ him at OutKick
the coverage. I bet we wouldn't employ him at Fox
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Sports Radio if I came on. You guys know that
I'm as outspoken as can possibly be. If I came
on and said that, I think I would get fired
on a radio show because police officers would rightly say,
wait a minute, why in the world is Fox Sports
Radio employing a guy who just came on their station
and said police officers are modern day slave catchers. I'm
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not sure I'd lose my job for that, but I
think I would have a good chance. I think there
would be a good chance that would happen. I think
there'd be a very good chance. If you had a
public job, no matter what you do, that you would
probably lose your job too if you said that. I
think so. If Colin Kaepernick said it to me, that's
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the thing you can't get past. People are like, oh,
the protest everything else. By far, the worst thing Colin
Kaepernick has said or done since he became in the
public eye is say that police officers are modern day
slave catchers. That's not something I mean. Again, I wouldn't
employ somebody who said or wrote that at OutKick That's
my choice. I got a multimillion dollar business, I wouldn't
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do it. All these NFL owners have multibillion dollar businesses.
They won't do it all these television networks. Jay Cutler
gets hired, Tony Romo, Tim Tebow, Ray Lewis, Big name
football players get hired on TV because they bring ratings.
Why will ESPN, NBC, CBS, and Fox not hier Colin
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Kaepernick to talk on television because they know you would
kill their business for the same reason. All these NFL
owners are not doing it. So all these media people
who are employed by all these big companies, they're saying,
why won't NFL teams employee Colin Kaepernick? I want you
to turn the tables on them, say why won't your
organization employee Colin Kaepernick. It's easy to work at ESPN
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and call out NFL teams and say, oh, these thirty
two NFL teams they're awful. How in the world can
they not employ Colin Kaepernick? Why don't you call out
your own business? Why will ESPN not employee Colin Kaepernick?
Why will Fox? Why will CBS? Why will NBC? Why
will none of them employe Colin Kaepernick on their television
networks because he's bad for business. Because the first thing
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they'll hear as soon as they sign him is the
Fraternal Order of Police will say Hey, do you believe
what Colin Kaepernick said that we're modern day slave catchers?
Definitely a guarantee you if Baltimore signs Colin Kaepernick, the
police department in Baltimore is immediately going to say, why
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in the world would you sign a guy who just
compared us all the modern day slave catchers? Why in
a combustible powder keg of a situation in a city
like Baltimore, Or would you bring in a guy like
Colin Kaepernick who has made the comments that he has
about police officers. I think if Colin Kaepernick got signed
in Baltimore, it would make the situation on the streets
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of Baltimore worse for police officers and worse for citizens
in the community. It would ratchet up tensions to another
level other than Chicago. I'm not sure there's a worse
NFL city for police community relations right now than Baltimore.
Chicago probably number one, Baltimore number two, and frankly, it
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might be Baltimore number one, Chicago number two. I think
Baltimore right now per capita is leading the nation, and
murders and everything has fallen apart in Baltimore ever since
they started riding over the Freddy Gray situation. Police officers
are at a loss. Ray Lewis tried to speak out
about it. Be sure to catch live editions about kick
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the Coverage with Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern
three am Pacific. Of course, the big story continues to
be what is going to happen with Colin Kaepernick? And
now we've all tied it in Colin Kaepernick r G three,
it appears like the American IDOL two finalists to be
the backup singer for Joe Flacco in Baltimore. What should happen?
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What will happen there? Jason Martin, you ran through the
stats for people wake at the country. Despite the fact
that Colin Kaepernick has gotten all the attention, RG three
stats are pretty much the exact same as Colin Kaepernick's
over the course of their careers. One caveat. Obviously, r
G three has had injuries, but r G three is
two and a half years younger than Colin Kaepernick as well,
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so RG three um and Colin Kaepernick. Even though Kaepernick
has been the most covered, I believe this is true
now the most covered NFL free agent in the history
of the sport. R G three also has been a
free agent, nobody has been paying attention to him, and
now they're the two finalists potentially to get the job
in Baltimore. Yeah, and I think it'll be interesting to
see how it plays out. R G three he has
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thrown four two less passes than Colin Kaepernick, and the
one advantage that you can really look at and see
between these two guys four Colin Kaepernick, if you're on
that side, is seventy two touchdowns to thirty interceptions for
his career forty two touchdowns to twenty six interceptions for
r G three, both of them with the same number
of fumbles, but obviously a lot more on field time
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for Kaepernick during that time. The passer rating between the
two almost identical in the regular season. The rushing numbers,
if you were to take them season by season, if
r G three had carried about as many times, they'd
be somewhere probably in the same vicinity, although I think
r G three might have more touchdowns, So I don't
think that if you if you just look at it
from a numbers perspective, there's definitely reason to look at
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r G three. But I do think the injury thing
is huge because I don't think the guy can stay healthy,
and his major advantage was not in the pocket. It
was him being able to run, and that's what he
can't do anymore, which has kind of made him not
somebody that you would want to sign. That's just making
a little bit of a case for Kaepernick over r
G three, who I do think has had the better
career and is the better player at this point. I
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don't understand why either of these guys, frankly, would be
who Baltimore looks to replace Joe Flacco, because Joe Flacco
is a stationary pocket passing quarterback and neither r G
three nor Colin Kaepernick have proven themselves to be capable
passers inside the pocket. So I don't know why it
would make sense, frankly, for either one of these guys
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to be the replacement for for Joe Flacco, because it
would appear to me that you would have to change
up the playbook substantially. Now maybe I'm wrong, but its
just that when I look at what they run in Baltimore,
it's a typical pro style offense. I don't know why
it would make sense for either of these guys, And
obviously the answer is you hope neither of these guys,
if you're Baltimore ever takes a snap because you want
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Flacco to remain healthy and play throughout. By the way,
we're talking about the Baltimore UH police and community relations
and how fraught they are. Baltimore is the number two
murder murder capital in America from a per capita basis,
so and ever since the protest over the Freddie Gray
incident have happened, the murder rate in Baltimore has skyrocketed.
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So if you're look to me, this is a powder
keg situation. This is literally the worst possible city, probably
other than potentially Chicago, for Colin Kaepernick to go into
because he said that police officers are modern day slave catchers.
And already the tensions in the community in Baltimore are
at a high level. I don't see how Colin Kaepernick
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makes things better at all. There. Let's go to your
calls eight seven, seven, six three nine Ronald and Augusta.
What's up, Ronald say, thanks play for letting me on
to discuss why I agree with Colin Kaepernick for not,
you know, standing and putting his hand over his heart
for a corporate theme song that everyone refers to as
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the national anthem, which is really a theme song for corporation.
USA is a corporation. Corporations have president, secretaries, and treasurers,
and that same corporation has converted all living souls into persons, individuals, residents, citizens,
and domiciled, which you likely know as a lawyer, I
studied the law. If you study civil procedure, you'll know
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that everything within a state, which is really a country. Okay,
what are you what are you saying here? You think
Colin Kaepernick's right for protesting police violence? Yeah, because the
police are actually committing fraud. Now, I verified this with
all police headquarters in the FBI to special Agent Johnson
or Sergeant Smith of the police, those are fake title names.
So when they write those citations or contracts and put
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Sergeant Smith on there with a badge number, that's not
a legal name. So those cops are committing commercial fraud
and they're converting people from living souls into slave titles
such as person, resident, individual, citizen, in domiciled. Not to
mention operation, is this a real call? Like? Are you
certifiably insane? No? What do you do for? What do
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you do for a living Ronald? I? Was a counter
terrorism analyist for thirteen years, and now I make future
films and documentaries about this very subject. In fact, one
of my movies Hollywoodn't Fine hang up on Him. I
think this guy is a true lunatic. It's rare that
we get a caller and I'm like, I think this
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guy is like a true insane person. I think Ronald
was insane. Around the horn? Is Ronald insane? Jason Martin, Yep,
That's why I wanted you to leave with him. Danny
g and Robert, do you think Ronald was insane? Uh?
Insane is a heavy word. And he just, you know,
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he went down a rabbit hole and and you know,
just came out with the difference. It was probably about
saying was an inside job, Robert, like we were, we
were on the path to leave. You're right, I should
have gone. I should have completely gone with did uh?
What did we did? We blow up the World Trade
centers on our own. Yeah, he's dead, kated. I'm gonna
look for his film in the box of my house.
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Oh my god. Well, there's Colin Kaepernick's big fan. Ronald
and Augusta. Everything is everything is a sham. Let's go
to j D in Virginia. What's up, j D? Hey,
how are you doing? I'm maxillent? How are you? I'm good. Um,
I'm calling Big Smoo to argue about um whether Colin
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Kaepernick makes the job more dangerous for police officers. I
was the police officer for fifteen years, and I know
that people minority, minorities, and people that are at a
lower financial station already have negative views of the police.
Colin didn't ratchet that up. I disagree. I disagree. I
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think he made relations worse. I don't. I don't think so.
Do you think that you think that a guy saying
to a predominantly minority audience that police officers are modern
a slave catchers like makes people have a better relationship
with the police. Well, if you history Clay that has
some truth to that has zero truth to it. Anybody
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who is arguing that it has any truth to it
at all is an imbecile and an idiot. No I do.
Let's hang up, gonna give a history lesson, Let's hang up. Look,
first of all, the history of police does not originate
in the United States, right, So everybody out there who's
like and by the way, there's some ESPN people endorsing
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this idea, which I think is total insanity. Even crazier
than that first call. Police officers are not modern day
slave catchers, okay, the first police officers in the world.
We're primarily at least that we follow. And I can't
believe I have to give a lesson now on the
history of police, but the form of government that we follow.
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In terms of police, most of our police laws came
from England, and in England, police officers existed not to
catch slaves, all right. The first police officers in the
United States when we first came over here, the first
constables had nothing to do with slaves, all right, because
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initially there were not slaves in this country. In the
Northeast where the first police officers were, they were not
in the business of pursuing people under the fugitive slave law. Now,
did police officers enforce the law that was on the
books at the time that slaves were property, Yes, But
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they enforced all sorts of laws that since have been changed.
The job of the police officer, at its most basic
level is to follow the rules and laws that are
promulgated by a society. As those rules and laws change,
then their enforcement mech is ms change as well. This
what Colin Kaepernick is trying to say that police officers
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are modern day slave catchers is flagrantly wrong, both in
a modern era and inflammatory, but also historically. There is
no basis in truth for it. There's just not. The
police officers are in charge of enforcing the law at times,
did our laws reflect that slaves or property and should
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be returned to their owners. Yes, just like today our
laws reflect that cars are the property of owners and
if they're stolen, they should be given back to their owners.
Police officers enforce the laws that are written on the books.
They don't make the law themselves. I don't know why.
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That's a complex mechanism to follow, but a lot of
people can't follow it. If in the years ahead we
side that laws are different than police officers apply laws differently.
I'll give you an example. In many states now, the
laws as it pertains to marijuana have changed substantially. Police
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officers don't decide what the law is. They are told
what the law is, and then they enforce it. This
idea that police officers are all powerful and deciding what
the law is is flagrantly wrong and frankly illustrative of
people who don't understand how our government actually works. One
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of those people would be Colin Kaepernick, who has been
involved in a misguided protest from the moment he first
took a knee. And I've said this before, but if
you haven't heard it, you need to hear it. Colin
Kaepernick's protests never made any sense, all right when he
took a knee during the national anthem. Now we can
have a debate about whether or not the national anthem
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should be played before sporting events. I think it's strange,
okay for because to me, a sporting event, particularly a
pro sporting event, is entertainment, just like most of you
would probably think it was strange if you walked into
a movie theater and they played the national anthem before
you sat down. I went and watched the Emoji Movie
with my nine, six and two year old. Just yes,
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I know, thank you. That's what you do when you're
a parent, You go watch bad movies. But if they
had played the national anthem before the Emoji Movie and
some of you had taken your kids out, I'm sure
some of you listening right now did have to go
watch that movie. If you had to stand up and
give an in salute during the national anthem playing before
the Emoji movie, you'd be like, this is kind of weird.
So if you want to have a debate about whether
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or not the national anthem should exist, that's fine. But
when Colin Kaepernick took a knee and protested the national anthem,
and in particular said he was protesting the killing of
minorities by police officers, his protests made no sense because
what he was protesting and a lot of people don't
understand this, and I think it's because most people in
sports media aren't very smart. But what Colin Kaepernick was
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protesting was already being done. He wanted more scrutiny of
police shootings by the federal government that was already happening.
Barack Obama and Loretta Lynch were already conducting their own
investigations of police shootings on top of local investigations, to
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ensure that people didn't get away with crimes that they
committed in the event that they shot an innocent person.
So Colin Kaepernick was protesting and demanding something from his
federal government that was already taking place. I don't think
he was intelligent enough to understand that what he was
protesting was what he was demanding had already taken place.
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And the analogy that I make, which is a little
bit of a funny one, but it's similar, is Colin
Kaepernick basically walked into McDonald's, took a knee inside that
restaurant and said, I'm gonna protest here because it's eleven
o five and I want breakfast right now. And then
the manager comes out and he says, hey, we offer
breakfast day a McDonald's now. And then Colin Kaebernick's like, oh,
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he's protesting and demanding an action that is already taking place.
And then he said, I'm going to stop the protest,
and he stopped the protest right as the government Donald
Trump got elected in Jeff Sessions became Attorney General, and
they changed the aggressiveness with which they're reviewing police shootings.
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So he literally protested when things were going his way
and stopped his protest when things were not going his way.
He literally could not be dumber in his protest. Moreover,
he's protesting the federal government doing what he wants them
to do. An easy analogy here that also would play
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out if Colin Kaepernick were really brave, and he wanted
to protesting something that the federal government did. He could
have taken a knee and said, you know what, I
don't believe that gay people should get married. That would
be approach test against the United States government doing something
that he might disagree with. Do you think all the
people right now advocating for Colin Kaepernick for taking a
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knee stupidly in a protest that made no sense would
be advocating for his First Amendment rights if he had
taken a knee to protest gay marriage, of course not.
In fact, if anybody was trying to sign him, they'd
be saying, we're going to protest the company that signed him.
Most people who acted out here and wave a First
Amendment flag or try to defend Colin Kaepernick aren't defending
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Colin Kaepernick at all. They're defending the belief that they
have that's the same as Colin Kaepernick. They're using Colin
Kaepernick as an excuse to be able to advocate for
perspectives that they believe. Kaepernick's a fool. He protested something
that made no sense, and then he took it a
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step further and said something that wasn't true. From a
historical perspective that police or modern day slave catchers. And
for that he's so far is partly unemployed. Now, if
he's been really good at quarterback, he would have gotten
hired anyway. But he's not really good at quarterback. And
as I've been saying from the very minute that this
story started, this is true across the board, in all
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walks of life. You will always be employed in this
country so long as your talent exceed your problems. What
Colin Kaepernick has learned, unfortunately for him, is that his
problems vastly exceed his talents, and that is why he's unemployed.
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