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Sports Radio. Well, our long national weight is officially over.
We are now here and ready to roll with so
much excitement and so many reasons to be thrilled about
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the return of sports. After all of the time that
there has not been sports in particular, after all the
time there's not been football since the Kansas City Chiefs
walked off the field as your Super Bowl champs back
in fed Rary. We have now returned, and we have
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got the Texans and the Chiefs going head to head,
ready to roll with a Thursday night football game to
kick off the return of the NFL. Now, there's lots
of drama off the field. There's probably gonna be unfortunately,
I believe. Anyway, I think one of the top stories
coming out of everything that has to do with uh.
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With the game tonight is going to be what happens
before the game? How to players behave? What happens when
the anthem comes on? All of this right is going
to be covered with a fine tooth comb, And I
unfortunately think come Friday, it's probably gonna take away from
what happens in the actual game itself. How woke is
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the NFL going to go? How long are they going
to stay woke? All of these different questions I think
are going to be at the very essence of the
decision making that is going into into this uh, in
into this game. But how good does it feel to
have the NFL back once and for all. A lot
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of people out there told us that it was never
going to happen. A lot of people said, hey, this
is uh, this is a season that will not take place.
If you go back and you'll look at the Corona Bros.
In the media, there were lots of people saying, Oh
my god, how in the world is the NFL going
to have the draft? Oh my god, how is the
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NFL gonna have free agency? Oh my god, how in
the world is the NFL ever going to be able
to play a football season During the coronavirus. Well, the
NFL has found a way to get it done, and
I think they deserve the utmost credit for that reality.
And so as we are rolling into the NFL schedule,
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I him just thrilled that we have found a way
to get back to NFL football. And if you consider
this weekend what may be going on with the Big Twelve,
the a c C All, the college football, all the
NFL taking place on Thursday, Sunday, Monday, this is going
to be a buffet of football excess that many of
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us have been waiting for as long as we can
possibly imagine, particularly because since the Super Bowl back in February,
it just feels like it's been like ten years. I mean,
when you consider all the things that have happened since
the Chiefs walked off the field found a way uh
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to come storming back sorry forty Niner fans and lock
in a victory, it just feels like it has been
so long since that took place. It's exciting to be
ready to roll again. Uh, well, you're gonna give you
our picks. With the season returning, there are lots of
reasons for excitement associated with with the league coming back.
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Let me bring in the crew. But I've got a
little bit of trepidation, maybe even a lot of what
exactly is going to go on before the game actually happens,
and how ridiculous it may look on the field with
all the protests and everything that's gonna surround it. Are
you as nervous as I am? Danny g that, like,
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we're not going to be able to have just football
and come tomorrow, all the storyline is going to be
the ridiculousness that happened as opposed to, uh, the actual
game itself. If you feel like you might be offended,
tune in ten fifteen minutes after the start time. How
about that. I think it's possible, But I mean, I
don't know what it's gonna look like. I mean, they're
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gonna be names on helmets right that Celtics game with
that Raptors double ot win that we experienced last night
when I was watching that amazing basketball come down, first
off to those crazy three consecutive plays at the end
of regulation, and then the craziness at the end of
the first overtime and then the extra craziness at the
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end of the double overtime. Not one time during any
of that did I think, Oh my god, they have
statements on the back of their jersey. Did you did? Yeah?
I can't. I can't not see it. I mean I watch,
you know, the end of NBA games, uh, when uh,
you know, they're decided, and it's impossible for me to
watch the sport even when it's entertaining, even last night.
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I watched it last night and I was like, man,
this would be so much better if the NBA was
just a basketball league instead of every single time somebody turns,
I look at the back of their jersey and instead
of seeing their name, I see some sort of political statement.
I see it every single time somebody turns a lot
of times, because you know, like if you don't watch
the NBA every single minute of a season, and it's
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not like I've watched the Raptors without Kauai be playing
and everything else. I mean there are times I'm like, oh, wait,
who's this guy again? You know, I mean I know
all the stars, but there are lots of people on
NBA teams, even in the middle of the playoffs, where
I'm like, oh, I can't remember who that dude is
and uh, and yeah, the back of the jerseys the
I I for me, it doesn't matter how good the
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game is. I am constantly aware of the fact that
this is. It just feels like a political advertisement to me,
the entire NBA game. It doesn't matter even the game
game was good. I was watching last night. I didn't
care who won between the Raptors and the Celtics because
I had money on the Celtics to close out the series.
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So I mean, I was rooting for the Celtics because
I wanted them to to win on the money line.
And you have to deal with Benetta today on the TV.
So yeah, right, so I got to hear about how
great Canada is again because the Raptors are still alive.
But but yeah, I mean I was watching it, you know,
from the perspective of a gambler with money on it.
It didn't really It's not like I'm affiliated with the
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Celtics or the Raptors otherwise, and it was an entertaining game.
But yeah, I it's impossible for me to not notice
the political statements being made by the NBA, even in
the middle of a good game. Well, how did you
get over the MLB Opening Day? Because they don't have
they don't have statements on the jerseys, and they don't
have statements on the baseball field. But first and every
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commercial of Major League Baseball is not a social justice
warrior commercial that takes like it happens during the n
b A. So uh so it doesn't like I don't
think the bigger issue for Major League Baseball to me
is there are no fans present, and that like takes
me back to every time I get a look into
the crowd, I'm like, this is crazy, Like there should
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be baseball fans in the stadium. So, I mean, I'm
constantly thinking when I watch a Major League Baseball game too.
Uh and you know you have the cardboard cutouts or
you've got the totally empty stadium or whatever it is.
I'm constantly thinking, because I was down at the Alanna
Braves this past weekend. Uh, there's no reason at all
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for the Major League Baseball stadium in Atlanta, among other places,
not to be open, right, I mean if I can
go to a restaurant that is literally in the stadium, right,
I mean you enter one side of the of the
restaurant from the outside of the stadium. The other side
is closed, right, so you can't go through to the
other side. If the restaurant in the stadium is open,
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how is the stadium not open? Right? Uh? And and
so I mean you know that I will think about
during the course of baseball, but yeah, I can't. And
I think I'll be if the NFL goes full on
woke and I have to uh, I have to see
uh statements on jerseys or statements on helmets or whatever
it is. And I don't know what it's gonna look like.
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I think it's gonna be impossible not to not to
think about that for me during the course of the game.
And I think the majority of fans are are are
like me. It's it's impossible. Like if you're a hardcore
NBA fan, all right, maybe you're so committed to the
league you don't care about about the social justice elements.
But they have their ratings have tanked, and I think
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it's because the average sports fan is It's like me,
I saw the stat I mean, we wrote about it
at out kick. Gallop does a poll of how much
people like sports, and in the space of the last year,
sports have gone from an overall net twenty positive, meaning
like when you ask people about sports and athletes and
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everything else. The average person has a twenty point positive
thought about sports to a negative ten. They've lost thirty
points in how much they are liked during a time
when they should have been I think a national salvation
because people are so desperate for something fun to watch.
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They've been cooped up in their houses. Uh, they've got
to fans have they've got a desperate need for new entertainment. UH.
Athletes have decided to get incredibly political for the first
time UH and most aggressively in our lives, and as
a result, they're a lot less liked, I mean as
a group, and I think that's a that's an issue
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that will linger for sports for years and years to come,
and I think it will linger the most in the
NBA because I think they've gotten the most awoke. So yeah,
last night, even during a good ending double overtime game
between the Celtics and the Raptors, I was like, this
is a fraction is enjoyable to me as it would
be if they were just playing basketball. And I think
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there are a lot of people who are who are
like me out there, and by the way, a lot
of those people won't even watch. So you know, I
say that I am constantly aware of Hey, they're making
a political statement, political statement, political statement. I think there
are lots of people who are like, screw it, I'm
not even gonna put this on. So yeah, I mean
what about you double, Like, do you when you watch,
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even if it's an entertaining NBA game, are you also
constantly aware? Like I feel like I'm being lectured to
because the statements on the Jersey's basketball court, like not
even the start of the game now, Like I don't
I don't even know because I don't I don't even
turn the game on at the start. Do they show
the national anthem on any of these playoff games now?
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And people kneeling and everything else? I don't even know
the answer. Yeah, I'm not really sure either. Most of
these games, I've been just tuning in in the second
half or fourth quarter or something. That's what I do basic.
I mean, I'll check the score on my you know,
on my phone and be like, oh, how's that game going?
But most NBA games, I mean, the dirty secret is
I mean, team gets up fifteen, team team gets down fifteen,
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and really you just need to watch the fourth quarter
to see what's gonna happen. Yeah, exactly, And do your
point about the names on the back of the jersey,
like O G O G and a Nobi who has
made a couple of just massive shots with the Rappers
this year in the playoffs this series, Like how many
people know who that guy is? Tiny percentage? And then
you see whatever statement he has on the back of
his jersey, and I feel like people that are just
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like average sports fans like who is this guy? And
then it takes him a minute to even realize who's
making these huge shots for the Toronto Raptors. But for
the NFL, as far as it's concerned, I mean, I
think it's definitely there's definitely gonna be a lot of
similar stuff going on tonight and throughout the entire season.
So I guess, I guess just buckle up and and
get ready for it. Yeah, Like, I don't know what
names are gonna be on the back of helmets in
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NFL stadiums, but some of them are going to be
people who are liars, right and stories that we know
are untrue. Like somebody's probably gonna have Michael Brown's name
on the back of their helmet as if he's a
victim of uh, you know, understrained police violence. Hands up,
don't Shoot was a lie. We know that because of
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the Obama Justice Department and the investigation they did in Ferguson.
So everybody out there who's like, oh, Michael Brown, you know,
hands up, don't shoot. I mean the NFL players did
hands up, don't shoot celebrations, uh in after they scored touchdowns,
which is ridiculous in and of itself. But they're gonna
have his name on the back of their helmets, and
I mean that is a lie. Jacob Blake may Well
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go to jail for felony sexual assault and people are
gonna have potentially his name. I mean they already did
it with the Saints. Drew Brees. I was talking, uh
last night at dinner. I mean, Drew Brees may have
everybody's name on his helmet. It might be Uh. I
was out the dinner last night with Jason Whitlock. He
was like, Man, Drew Brees's helmet is gonna be like
an Ohio State Buckeye helmet back in the day. That
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dude is so shell shocked after saying he's gonna stand
for the national anthem. Drew Brees gonna come out with
the New Orleans Saints and have like, you know, sixty
different names of alleged police violence on his helmet. You're
not even gonna be able to see the Saints logo.
He's gonna have so many names on his helmet. But
I mean, uh, the Jacob Blake thing, which kind of
has disappeared all of a sudden because people found out
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that he had a weapon and uh, and he refused
to comply with the officer command. And also the woman
who called police said that he had fell and he
sexually assaulted her and he was violating a trespass warrant.
But I mean, this is like people putting Ray Rice's
name on their helmet after he was on video knocking
out his his fiance. I mean, it's crazy to me. Like,
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imagine if w NBA players had spelled out Ray Rice's
name in a in a T shirt, people would have
been like, oh my god, is this great? Like people
who wore Ray Rice jerseys were like the worst human
beings on the planet. After the Ray Rice video came
out of him knocking out his fiance. Remember that was
just what was that like five six years ago that
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everybody in the NFL lost their minds over Ray Rice
and said, oh, this guy's never allowed to and look,
I defended Ray Rice back the day. I'm like, look,
the guy made an awful decision, but it's not like
he's the worst behaving person in the history of the NFL. Uh.
He deserves a chance to come back and play if
a team is willing to sign him. No team would
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sign him because suddenly domestic assault was the borderline between
whether or not you could ever be signed to play
football again. And uh, and look, I mean, I'm not
defending Ray Rice, but the guy, in my opinion, deserved
a write to make a living as a football player,
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even though he made a mistake. Right. My position on
the NFL for a long time has been if you
aren't in prison, you should be able to play football.
I mean, I believe Michael Vick deserved the second chance.
I understand some people are like, oh, I'll never give
him a second chance after the dog fighting, Like I
believe in redemption. I believe in second chances. Uh. If
teams decide that your talent exceeds your problems, and I think,
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really the takeaway from Ray Rice was most NFL teams
did not believe Ray Rice had a lot of gas
left in the tank, and when that video came out,
they weren't going to be involved. But now we're gonna
have potentially Jacob Blake's name on helmets, and he's accused
of felony sexual assault, which is worse arguably right, worse arguably,
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I mean, we'd have to put him in front of
a jury and be able to let people hear the evidence.
But what he's accused of is arguably much worse than
what ray Rice did on video. And yet NFL teams
wouldn't allow ray Rice to make a living ever again
playing football, but they're gonna put Jacob Blake's name on
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their helmet. I mean, I'm gonna be thinking about that
if I watch players and if there are people that
we're trying to turn into heroes, uh through martyrdom, and
the NFL is a part of that, And frankly, I
don't think that a lot of these people are worthy
of being turned into martyrs based on what they may
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have done, and certainly why police were there with Jacob
Blake or what happened with Michael Brown. I mean, so yes,
I think the NFL is going to have a big
storyline surrounding the way that they're off the field behavior
could overshadow everything that happens on the court or on
the field. What about you, Eddie, Like, I don't know
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how much of me. I know you're primarily watching the NHL,
but are you like me that even if the game
is good in the NBA, Like let's say you come
in in the Eastern or the Western Conference finals. By
the way Clippers one last night easily basically controlling that
game throughout. There was no no drama associated with it.
But I would like you flip on an NBA game
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or you watch highlights, do you immediately kind of notice
the statements being made. I mean, that's why they're doing them,
so hopefully everybody notices, But to me, it distracts in
a big way from my enjoyment of the game. Yeah,
I've been lucky because I've been watching hockey mostly, I
haven't really had to deal with much of it at all.
I mean, they had a couple of statements in a
couple of guys, except for the idiot decision by hockey
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to shut down for two years two days over the
Jacob Blake incident, which now looks even more ridiculous the
more and more evidence that comes out in that case, Yeah,
well they would have been crushed by the media that
who cares. I mean, yeah right, But I'm saying, like,
that's the problem we're in right now is the five
percent of people that are on the Twitter blue checkmark brigade,
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the five percent of people that are like, oh my god,
how how in the world can they play hockey when
you know, the Jacob Blake incident happened, Like most people
are like, because that's their job, Like well Gary, Gary
Bettman came from the NBA, so he you know. I
just my my thing is people are so afraid of
what gets said on social media and it's all just noise.
Like I mean, I can go into my Twitter account
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right now and half the people at least listening are
gonna be like, thank God for everything that you say,
and the other half are gonna be like, you're the
worst human being who's ever existed. And it's all just noise,
Like it doesn't have any impact. That's not going to
change the way I feel about about the world of
sports or or life. I'm gonna say exactly what I
think for three hours every morning, and it doesn't really
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matter to me what will think about what I think.
I mean, like you can react to it. It's not
like I'm walking up to you on the street, like
what do you think about me? Do you like me?
Do you like my show? Like whatever? I don't care. Well,
that's probably why the show does it well. One of
the problems is it's not just the imagery, but it's
the commentary as well. I flipped over to one of
the Houston games and the I swear to you, the
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first thing I heard out of the announcer's mouth was
him going into some film that Russell Westbrook is making
about some Tulsa race massacre, and I'm like, that was
the first thing I heard. I just flipped it off.
I'm like, I just don't want to hear it. So
it's gonna be talked about as well, even if you
try to, you know not. That's what's crazy to me
is like every commercial is like some woke social justice
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warrior commercial. Like even during the commercial break, I'm like, oh, like,
I gotta get my remote and figure out if I
can flip over to a baseball game. By the way,
I did watch a lot of baseball. It's night. The
Brave scored twenty nine runs, that's kind of enjoy but
you're with me, like you, it's impossible to escape. Yeah,
And I know for the and tonight, I'm gonna I'm
gonna ask my wife just when they're right, when they're
about to kick off, tell me, and I'll come in
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because I don't want to see any of the stuff
that's gonna go on beforehand. And I mean, they're playing
the Black National anthem, I mean, which is just I mean,
and are people gonna kneel for the Black national anthem?
Are they gonna stand for the Black national anthem and
kneel for the U S National? I mean, the whole
thing is ridiculous. It is just such a ridiculous charade.
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And all of it, by the way, created by Colin Kaepernick,
a dude who has never voted in his life. Uh,
and also created by NBA players, only twenty of whom
are actually registered to vote. It's like, Hey, if you're
gonna lecture me on politics, maybe go into the voting
booth once in your life for me. I don't think
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that's a crazy expectation. If you're going to take over
sports and lecture me all the time about politics, just
once in your life. Actually, have read stir to vote.
Uh what about you, Roberto, will you like Well, I
guess it's an interesting question. Well, as Frankie Solo, this,
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like what percentage of people are going to be Like,
I don't even want to turn it on until it's
halfway through the first quarter because I like football, but
I just don't want to be overwhelmed by all of
the ridiculousness that is going to surround the football game. Yeah. Look,
if you're gonna get triggered by seeing the players kneel
for the national anthem, uh, don't turn on the game
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until the game starts. And I mean I think a
lot of people are just not going to turn the
game on period. Yeah, that that's true. And then you're
talking about the commercials Like whenever I whenever I have
I never watch commercials. I just literally like right now
I'm slipping. I'm switching back and forth from basketball to
the NBA and and uh that's the way I get
through the pod. But I mean like sometimes, like in
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the end of a game scenario, everything, like there's so
many different time outs that are taken, and you know
the process, they may pull up commercial during the game,
you know, like so yes, I understand in general, I
tend to flip back and forth and just go to
another sporting event the minute that a commercial starts. But
I'm saying that when you don't want to miss an
inbounds play because there's you know, two seconds left and
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anything can happen, you might miss it if you flip
over to a different channel. So that's when I typically
leave the television on, and the whole thing is just
a it's a ridiculous woke over reach. I mean, it
doesn't bother me because I just don't care about what
the players have to say, Like, it really doesn't bother me.
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So we got a lot to be excited about the
return of the NFL. We basically have every sport under
the sun happening this weekend. College football is going to
be back. We got the NBA, the NHL, MLS, I
think the w n b A is playing, We got
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the US Open. Do you think there's anybody out there
in my list in audience right now who's like, man,
I can't wait for sports to be back. This weekend,
I am gonna watch the w n b A like, like,
is there a single person listening right now? We got
millions of people now who listen to this show on
a regular basis. Is there a single person listening to
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my show right now that as we roll into what's
gonna be a long weekend of sporting excess. Is there
anybody that's like, man, I am making sure that I
don't miss I don't even know what's going on in
the w n b A. What do you think is
out there? Is there a single person that is like
that is listening to me right now? I know there's
a single person on the planet because you know, the
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w n b A players have moms and dad, so
I'm sure they're the most exciting. Is there a single
person that's listening to me right now that's like, I
am gonna I cannot wait for this w n b
A action going on this weekend? Of course you think that,
of course not. Yeah, So like a couple of different
things I want to get into. But you said no,
I mean we do have millions. Now do you think
there's one person out of ten million? Well, I don't
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think we have ten million people listen we a month,
but oh over the course of the month, well I would.
I would just love like, if you are listening to
me right now and you are legitimate, I just is
there a single person, like most people are not into
what O'Dell Beckham is allegedly into. I bet there's this.
I bet there's a single person out there who's like, yeah,
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good for you, Odell. Amen, brother, If you don't know
what I'm talking about, Odell has been trending all week
for it, uh and allegedly. Uh. There's a couple different
things I want to get into here as we get
ready for the NFL. I'm gonna give you some picks.
First of all, I got like, we finished off the
show Our one, and I was talking about my wife's
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financial decisions and the things that she is focused on
for a long time. If I left the water running
to get ready for the shower so that it was warm,
you know, by the time I got in, she'd be like,
what are you doing wasting all that water? And I'm like, wait,
waste You just spent nine dollars on Lulu La mon
or whatever those things are pants workout pants, and you're
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worried about the eight cents that I just wasted in
in in water dollar by turning it on so it
can get warm. Total mom move. I just well, I
and I'm a total dad in the sense that I
walk around in my house all day every day turning
lights off. This to me is like the quintessential dad
move if you have kids, like and I don't know
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how many times I've said, hey, when you leave the room,
just if you're not gonna be there, turn the light out.
I don't know how much money I have saved for
my family, it might be thirty six cents this year,
but I will walk around obsessively turning off the lights
all over the house, like because otherwise I really think
this is true at night when my family goes to bed,
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it might as well be. Like I mean, it's it's
like the Chevy Chase house on a vacation. The amount
of lights that are left on is crazy. So just
walk around literally in my house all day long, every day.
And I remember my dad doing this when I was young.
Like the dad it seems to me in the house
is the one who just basically turns off lights all
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day long. And again, I've probably saved thirty six cents
from my family this year by turning off the lights.
But I don't think anybody would have ever turned off
the lights otherwise. I mean, it just is infuriating me
how much time the lights get left on. But my
wife's inability to like understand overall budgetary issues and what
she gets focused on it blows my mind often times,
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like the amount of money that we spend, just like
drunken sailors. Like just I like, I'm like, how is
it possible that we have spent you know, this much
money on yoga classes or you know kids, uh get
like kids like anyway, I just I what about open doors?
That was a big thing where my mom if she
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was running the air conditioner and we dared to open
the back door the front door, so that shut that door.
I actually your mom's right about that, because my kids
will just leave every and I don't even care. I mean,
I don't like the fact that it gets the hot
air comes in or or the by the way that
could be in. The winner to your mom is also
paying for the heat, and that's a but it's the bugs,
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like how would you how do you go outside? I
was talking about twelve year old about this The other
day because we're about to get the cats. Like the
cats are coming to the house, the Bengal cats. The
speaking of wasted funny. I think these damn cats cost
me like a thousand dollars. I don't even want. Like
the cats have a micro chip in them. I like,
my laptop barely works and I got micro micro chipped cats,
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Like I was asking. I talked about this on the
show the other day, like why why are my cats
gonna be micro chipped? So my wife is going to
pick up these cats. I'm not gonna be able to
breathe anymore in the house. I'm allergic to him. The
whole family has been like during the pandemic. Uh, the
kids were had to do like an informative argument and
my wife had him do uh them do it on
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why the family needs cats. So we've got two Bengal
cats that are coming this weekend and they're micro chipped.
But my wife has been like just all over our
twelve year old because he won't shut the door when
he goes outside. I'm like, how is it not register
in your brain that when you go out? She's been
all over him because she's like, we're gonna lose the cats,
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and now I'm terrify. I don't even want the cats,
But now I'm like, if I'm gonna spend a thousand
dollars on a freaking cat and it's micro chipped, the
last thing I want to do. It's like, I mean,
I'm gonna have to get on my laptop or my
phone and like find a cat, like tracking it on
the micro chip. I can already know where this is
gonna go. The cats are gonna get out of the house,
and then the kids are gonna be upset because the
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cats get out of the house, and then we're gonna
have to make all these uh like find the cat,
you know, like uh the things for the neighborhood. My
wife's gonna be on Facebook like, hey, have you seen
our cats. I'm gonna be trying to track it like
like you know, like I'm like, I'm gonna have my
phone like trying to find the micro target that cats,
and and it's gonna be in somebody's house, like when
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somebody steals your phone and you just knock on the
door and you're like, hey, I think my cat's here, Clay,
I don't I have, uh, you know, a pure bred
cat as well. And I was one of the ones
that told you that Bengals were the way to go.
You and I've been in your palacial estate before. I
don't think these Bengals are gonna want to spend time
outside because my cat once in a while, I'll crack
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the door because I'm picking up an Amazon package or something,
and he'll look out there. But then he does a
double taking. He's like, na, it doesn't look so good
out there because he hasn't made inside. He's kicking it
in front of the air conditioner with his food and
his water dish. He's not the cat don't know. The
cat is gonna be like my kids. They don't know
how much they haven't made. Their version of what the
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real world is is so fundamentally artificial. Well maybe because
it's a hundred and twenty degrees outside here so well
in California, I might not want to go out. I
told my my five year other day. You know, when
I grew up, I had no I had no internet, right,
And she didn't believe. He's like the mom, Is that true? Yeah? Oh,
I mean I've told this story before, but to me,
it's like personifies everything so uh and and like we
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live in a really nice neighborhood now, right, the kind
of neighborhood that I certainly could not have even come
close to afford to live in when I was a
kid growing up, Right, And so I've said before when
and it's probably a lot of people listening to who
have been in this situation. But you know, you might
drive through a fancy neighborhood with your parents and like,
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look at all the really nice houses, right, Or if
it's Christmas time, you know, like the people who have
a lot of money to spend on their lights, Like,
maybe you don't have that money you drive through. I'm
conscious of it around Halloween, although I think, my red Bird,
you idiots out in l A, your leadership is not
allowing kids to go trick or treating now the press release, it's,
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first of all, it's early September. Do you really need
to cancel trick or treating at the end of October?
I told my wife we have a Halloween already. In
addition to the ways that my wife spends money hand
over fist, there's the amount of Halloween decorations that we have.
We have thousands of dollars now and Halloween decorations in
our house, and she was like, well, with the coronavirus
going on, I'm not sure if I'm going to throw
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a Hallow. I was like, we're throwing a Halloween party,
all right. If people are afraid they're gonna die at
our Halloween party, first of all, I mean it's Halloween,
so you have risk everywhere, right, So uh, well, you
could wear a mask in your costume or whatever, like
October thirty one or I guess it's gonna be October.
We are throwing a Halloween party at my house. I
was like, we're just doing it. She's like, I don't know.
I think we might get in troubles. Like now we're
(31:34):
throwing a Halloween party anyway, So I'm the opposite of
the trick or treater people, right. Yeah, And by the way,
really quick, I have that in front of me. You'll
be happy to hear pumpkin carving is allowed. Not. They
actually sent out a list of what you can do
for Halloween. People aren't revolting. If I lived in calif
I think about this all. This is like the bad
Mitten list that we had months ago. Halloween activities. Yeah,
(31:55):
I want to get to that, say, but they've tried
to at times be like, Hey, do you want to
move to l a A. You can work at Fox Sports,
You've got a television show there. It's never really gotten
aggressive in terms of whether I want to move to
l A. But we've had those conversations off and on,
and I like l A. I mean, based on the
time that I've spent out there, I would be driven insane.
I'm not even kidding. If I had had to live
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with the restrictions that you guys have had to live
with in l A. And if I was looking back
to where I live now in Nashville in the Tennessee
area and everything that we can do, which is basically
total normal life here and what you're allowed to do there,
I would be losing my mind. So there's a restrictions
on what you can do for Halloween. Yeah, Halloween. They
sent this out. This is from the City of Los
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Angeles Los Angeles County Department of Public Health guidance for
celebrating Halloween. Halloween activities not permitted. Door to door trick
or treating is not allowed. So will they arrest kids
if that happens? Like what they like, I understand when
they say something's not permitted. But if like you are
living in Los Angeles and your six year old wants
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to walk next door and on somebody's door and say
trick or treat? Like, do police just come out of
nowhere and just tackle them and like put them in cuffs?
I mean, what are they gonna do if your kids?
I mean, if your kids in their neighborhood want to
get dressed up for Halloween and go knock on their
neighbor's doors and say trick or treat? Like how I
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don't even understand how they say that's not permitted? Like
that is what are they gonna do? How do they
stop that? Are they going to arrest parents? Are they
going to confiscate your candy? I mean, I don't even
like and you're not and what cop out there is
actually going to do this? Like I know people are like, oh,
cops are awful human beings, right, That's what people. That's
what athletes want to tell us all the time. Most
cops totally normal, likable. They're listening to us right now,
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thank you for what you do. They're not gonna freaking
arrest a parent who's walking around with a kid in
a cost to getting trigger treat like, okay, so this
is lunacy first of all, that they're sending it out
in early September, right, I mean, I can't believe we're here.
But if the President comes out and says trick or
treating going on, he might gain a million votes nationwide.
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Certainly if kids could vote, it would help him, because
I mean, we're gonna have to get Joe Biden on
the record about whether or not trick or treating should
be allowed to I mean, this is crazy, alright, So
not permitted. This is officially from the city of Los Angeles,
from not in the state of California or is it
the city of all? This is l A county, all right,
it says, And they give a little explanation on why
they're banning door to door trick or treating. It says,
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because everybody's gonna die of the coronavirus. Because it can
be very difficult to maintain proper social distancing on porches
and at front doors, especially in neighborhoods that are popular
with trick or treaters. Also not permitted, trunk or treating
events where children go from car to car instead of
door to door to receive treats are also not allowed.
Gatherings are Parties with non household members are not permitted,
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even if they are conducted outdoors. Carnivals, festivals, live entertainment,
and haunted house attractions are not allowed. All that stuff
is open. Where I am, I don't think we have
and it's not like I'm listening to the government tell
me exactly what I can do from one moment to
the next. But where we live, like, we can have
a party, so it's not prohibited. Although the idea that
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the government can tell you whether or not you can
have a party at your house is that's crazy, Like
like if I want to have twenty people over to
my house to have a barbecue, like the idea that
the government could show up and be like, sorry, that's
not permitted, sir. I mean, I mean it's crazy to me.
People in Los Angeles County are not going to follow this.
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I mean, I don't blame him, and I mean I'm
taking my kids trick or treating. There is a list
for the permitted activities. What can you do online? Parties,
slash contests e g. Costume or pumpkin carving. So the
internet that the government is allowing you to get on
the Internet allowing zoom parties. I guess is pumpkin carving on.
But you want to know, Like, imagine if somebody was like, Hey,
(35:53):
I'm going to carve my pumpkin, do you want to
get on zoom and watch me. I'm like you, psycho, No,
I want you to go to prison. And because there's
no telling what else you're into. If you think that
I want to watch you carve a pumpkin on zoo
count ten and present, maybe Adell's into that. Halloween movie
nights at drive in theaters, Halloween theme meals at outdoor restaurants,
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Halloween themed art installations at an outdoor museum, dressing up
homes and yards with Halloween themed decorations. Your tax dollars
in the city of Los Angeles are going to some
losers sitting around coming up with a like allowed activity
list for Halloween. I mean, that's just crazy for me
to think about that there are people who would listen
(36:35):
to this. So the Halloween party, We're gonna have a
Halloween party. And we got all these Halloween decorations. Every year,
my wife spends god knows how much on new Halloween decorations.
The fact that my kids are even willing or able
to walk around the house. Like sometimes I'm scared because
I'm up early in the morning and you know, like
out of the corner of my eye, like we got
ghosts and ghouls and like terrifying looking things like standing
(36:57):
all over the house. And it's you know, four fifteen
in the morning. I'm walking through, and like some of
them move like their motion activated. And so it's pitch
black dark in the house and like suddenly I walked
by and there's a ghost that comes alive. So and
so for people out there, like you know, you drive
The story I was telling was you you drive through
sometimes like oh, this is a great neighborhood for Halloween decorations,
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or this is a great neighborhood for Christmas lights. And
this is point talking about wasting money. Like my wife
priced out, you know what it would have for somebody
to do Christmas lights, for instance, for our house, and
thankfully she came back and she was like this is
too much and I'm not willing to pay that. And
I was like, how much is it? She was like, oh,
(37:39):
the guy wanted five grand to put Christmas lights all over.
I'm like five grand to put Christmas lights all over
our house. But so having like super good displays of
Christmas lights or Halloween like, it's expensive, right, and not
only does it take a lot of money, it can
take a lot of time. So wealthier neighborhoods typically have
like better Chris the decorations, better places to go trick
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or treating. Like, I'm conscious of that I live in
one of those neighborhoods now, the kind of neighborhood I
couldn't afford to live in when I was a kid.
So we would get in the car sometimes you drive
through the neighborhood and you're like, oh, imagine I want
to be to live in that house, or oh wow,
look at how you know massive that place is, or
what a neighborhood like, stuff like that. We would do
that occasionally when I was a kid. And so we
were walking home recently, this has been probably a year
(38:23):
or two years whatever. We were walking home recently from
a birthday party in the neighborhood, and my kids were
complaining because the the neighbor that we went to had
a trampoline in the backyard, and uh, and how come
we didn't have a trampoline in the backyard and all
these things and how you know, how you know, like
as a kid, it doesn't matter how much stuff you have,
(38:44):
somebody else always is going to have more. And I'm like, okay,
this is an important parenting opportunity for me. And I
was like, you know, your dad and your mom, like
when we were kids growing up, we used to drive
around and look at the houses like that we live
in now, where people with money live, and we'd be like, oh,
can you imagine what it would be to live in
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a house like that? And you know, we didn't have
a lot of the things that you have, and you know,
running through a list of all the things that they
have and how they should be happy and fortunate. This
is with my two oldest who were younger now than
they are, but they were still young, and it's a
whole list of all the things and the reasons that
they should be incredibly thankful for the things that they have.
And how you know Dad and mom never had this
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stuff that they had when they were growing up. I
mean I didn't get into you know, we had to
walk up hill four miles both ways, you know, like
like uh, like uh, it might be the case now.
Although my wife, who grew up in Michigan has made
a big deal about standing outside for the bus and
how you know she would walk in blizzards and they
never shut down for snow and everything else. I mean,
you would think that she lived in the you know,
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the Arctic and an igloo by the time she finishes
the story about how cold it was standing for the bus.
And anyway, so we're walking through talking about you know,
I'm pointing out all the neighborhood and I'm like, you know,
your dad and your mom, we were young, we would
ride around in cars and wonder what it might be
like to live in a big house like you guys
get to live in now. And I mean, I'm just
thinking I killed it. And this is in response to
(40:08):
why we don't have a trampoline and you know in
the backyard and all this stuff. And I'm like, man,
I have just this is the greatest parenting job I've
ever done. These kids are gonna remember this forever, like
they are gonna, you know, when they're seventy eight years old,
they're gonna be sitting around like, you know, the reason
why I had success in life was when I was eight,
you know, when when I was five, you know, the
kids are talking. They're like, my dad set me down
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and pointed out how a good bunch of good fortune
we had and how hard work is important and all
this stuff, and I'm just letting them have it. I'm like,
this is gonna be like they're gonna learn, They're never
gonna know. Uh, They're gonna remember this day for the
rest of their lives. So I met, I, you know,
finished with this stirring conclusion. I'm like, you know, you
get to live in the house now that your dad
and your mom used to wonder what it would be
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like to live in one day. And I finished with
that like summation, and I'm like the kids are quiet
for a second. I'm like, man, I have rocked their world.
This They're gonna remember this day forever. And so I've
just finished saying, you know, you get to live in
a house that your dad and mom used to drive
through neighborhoods and wonder what it would be like to
live in one day. And my oldest kid, I swear
to God, he like there's a long pause, and I'm thinking,
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like I've just absolutely nailed it. He's like, well, Dad,
now you know I go went through this entire list
about how fortunate they were and how Dad and mom
used to wonder what it was like to live in
a big house and like a nice neighborhood. And I'll
be damned if my kid doesn't immediately say, well, Dad,
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now you know, now you know like all that lesson
that I thought I had taught to him about all
the advantages and privileges he had, and what he took
away was, now dad knows what it's like to live
in a nice house. So you can't win, Like I
don't know what it was like I think about this now,
I'm like, I'm working twenty hours a day. I got
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like ten different companies that were running and uh and
and you know, things are going pretty well from a
financial perspective, and I'm like these three knuckleheads that I
have in the house, they're just gonna waste it all.
I mean, they're like after I'm dead, they're just gonna
like there's no tell like that I'm all this money
that I am trying to make that eventually they're gonna inherit.
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They're gonna just blow it all, like all the work
that I'm done. Like I was talking about wife the
other day, I'm like, do we really need to make
more money. I'm like, I don't really question like the
decision making that our twelve year old and are nine
year old and are five year old to have now,
Like do we think they're gonna make better decisions when
they have money? Like they're just gonna waste everything. I
don't know. So anyway, that's uh, that's what I'm thinking about.
(42:39):
When did you did your wife got get the new
Peloton bike already? Of course we got the Pelot. I mean,
if you get what we got, a Peloton, I've got
like TRX will probably get the Mirror. Like, I don't know.
I don't think there's a single thing that you can
sign up for in America that we're not signed up for. Yeah,
that like, and to be fair, like I think I
(43:00):
talked about this on the radio the other day, like
we couldn't remember what the Amazon password was and inevitably,
like there's fifty billion things going on and my wife's like, hey,
do you remember what the Amazon password is? I'm like, no,
you know, She's like that logged me out of the phone.
I don't like that. I think conservatively, since the coronavirus started,
we've had four billion packages arrive at our house from
(43:21):
things that my wife is Amazon, right, So no, I'm like, no,
I don't remember, and my password is registered on an
old email address, and I don't know the password to
get into the old email address, so I have to
get But in order to get the password to Amazon,
I have to get through like six different emails and
like six different other passwords in order to get So
I was like, just sign up for a new Amazon account.
(43:43):
Just keep your password away from dub well yeah, well yeah, no,
kidding double still. But I was like my wife was
like what I was like, just sign up for your
own Amazon Prime account. It's like, I was like, it's
ninety nine dollars for the year. She's like, you're telling me,
And so we got into a fight over whether me
telling her to have her own Amazon Prime counts like
you want there to be two Amazon Prime accounts for
the house, And I was like, if it means that
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you never asked me again what the password is for Amazon,
I want you to have your own Amazon Prime account
and I'll have my own Amazon Prime account. Yes, I'm
fine with that. And I think there's probably gotta be
a lot of people out there that are like and
then you get into an argument, and I'm like, it
would have been worth I would have just given you
a hundred dollars right now out of my wallet not
(44:26):
to have this argument. And that's not a good position
to be in either. Um, and probably this is probably
gonna be a good position for me to be in
either because on the off chance that my wife is
actually listening to the show right now driving one of
our kids to school, I'll probably hear about this later.
So my wife is lovely, my greatest woman's ever exist
better looking now that she wasn't we got married sixteen
(44:48):
years ago. But probably also spending money like a drunken
sailor right now on perfumes and yoga pants and things
that I don't even understand how we use them. Fox
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(45:12):
by the Attorney General of Ohio. This is gonna be
a fascinating conversation. He is saying that, uh, the State
of Ohio as well as Ohio State, that they could
file a lawsuit seeking tens of millions of dollars in
damages over the cancelation of the college football season. We're
(45:32):
gonna be joined by him here momentarily on the front
end here. I wanted to give you my picks. We'll
get the rest of the cruise picks at the end
of the show. Also, by the way, as if today
is not crazy enough, we got a special animal Thunderdome.
There's a tiger loose and Knoxville, Tennessee, there's a tiger loose.
I'm reading the article right now, and I just sent
(45:53):
Danny g the local news story about this. But I
just was reading the article at a bunch of you
sent me what The bottom of the article here says
if anyone has any information on a missing tiger or
locates the tiger, they're asked to please contact the Knox
County Sheriff's office. So, if you were listening right now
(46:13):
in the Knoxville, Tennessee area, there is a tiger on
the loose. No reason to panic, But one of the
deadliest predators in the world is loose in Knoxville. And
it's not an Auburn tiger. Because God knows they have
they have terrorized the University of Tennessee over the years.
It's not an LSU tiger also Missouri tigers, not as much,
but a real live tiger, the thunder from the thunder Dome.
(46:36):
I was tracking this story starting last night and then
all morning I was doing updates making sure that they
hadn't found it yet. And on Twitter there's a report
saying that the zoo there and Knoxville says that all
their tigers are accounted for. So this had to be
a drug dealers tiger, right, might be Carrol Basking. Might
be Carrol Baskin, for all we know her tigers have
(46:57):
gotten out. Could be Joe Exotic if he wasn't in prison.
All right, so my pis here we go, Uh, fire
up that music, Roberto. Remember this is the official prediction
sheet that after the game starts tonight, it gets taped
down here in the studio. Now I get it, didn't
I get it right? Last year? Well you got the
Super Bowl winner career? Yeah, I picked the Chiefs. Yeah, alright,
(47:18):
So it's a f C champ, NFC Champs, Super Bowl
champ out on a limb, which is a wild prediction
worst team and then m v p uh so Chief
Saints in the Super Bowl. I think the Chiefs are
gonna win the a f C again. I like the
addition of Clyde Edwards. Hilaire Patrick mahomes the best player
in the entirety of the league. You can't go wrong
betting in favor of the best player in uh in football,
(47:41):
I don't think, particularly when he's the quarterback. And so
I've got the Chiefs coming out of the a f
C UH and I've got the Saints. Saints have lost.
I'm sorry Saints fans for reminding you of this. Saints
have lost three straight games in the postseason on the
final play of the game. I mean, think about how
crazy that is. Three straight postseason losses. They lost to
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the Vikings on that crazy Minnesota miracle. Hell Mary, they
lost to the Rams on you know that awful not
calling the past interference penalty, but they lost on a
long field goal in overtime. And they also lost the
last season to the Vikings on I think it was
Kyle Rudolph making the catch in the back left corner
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of the end zone down on the Super Dome. So
three straight postseason that they have lost on the final
play of the game. I think they win in the NFC.
So my Super Bowl prediction is, uh, the Kansas City
Chiefs going up against the New Orleans Saints. In terms
of the m v P, I've got Tom Brady. I
(48:44):
think this is gonna be a career achievement Award. I
love the offensive talent. Although Mike Evans got a little
bit of an injury. We're gonna talk with Dr David
Chow about this as we roll into the first week
of the NFL what we need to be concerned about there.
But Mike Evans and Chris Godwin combined that with O. J. Howard,
with Rob Gronkowski, Cameron break Now they've had in Leonard
(49:04):
four Net uh in running at running back. I just
think this is the most talented overall offensive playmaking group
that we've ever seen Tom Brady have. I mean that legitimately.
Uh and Jamis Winston through thirty touchdowns now threw thirty
interceptions too, but he threw thirty touchdown passes to this crew.
I think Tom Brady will revitalize his career. I think
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he's gonna have a phenomenal season with the Buccaneers. Can't
wait to watch that game between the Bucks and the
Saints to kick off the season by the way uh
and then out on a limb. I think the Arizona
Cardinals when the NFC West. That's a bold prediction. Uh,
that is a I think Kyler Murray with Cliff Kingsbury,
I think they're gonna be really good in uh second year.
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I think the NFC West has got a ton of
great teams with the Seahawks, with the forty nine Ers,
the Rams and the Cardinals. Think's the best division in
football right now. Uh. And I think nine and seven
or ten and six might be enough to get it
done in the NFC, given how competitive these teams are
and how much they will beat up on each other.
So that is all of my predictions will last one
(50:07):
last quick glass. One worst team, Oh, worst teams the Jags.
I think that's just too easy. Jags are tanking uh
and trying to go grab Trevor Lawrence. So that is
to me an easy decision, uh and the easiest one
of all. All Right, we bring in now. I appreciate
him being flexible and on short notice. He is Dave Yost.
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He is the Attorney General of the State of Ohio. A. G. Yost.
Thanks for joining us. Hope you're having a good morning.
Are you ready for the NFL to return? Absolutely? Fotball
all right? So I am fascinating this show. Obviously, we
have been beating the drum for the return of the
Big Ten as aggressively as anybody could be in media,
(50:50):
and I'm frustrated that the Big Ten ever made the
decision to shut down in the first place. So, before
I get into the attorney element of war job, as
someone who lives in Ohio, like, I'm not asking you
to put your lawyer hat on, yet, does it seem
as crazy to you that high school football can be played,
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that the Browns and the Bengals can play in the NFL,
and also that the University of Cincinnati can play the
bear Cats can but Ohio State, which is probably the
most beloved team in the entirety of the state of Ohio,
is not able to play. Just purely, as a guy
who lives in Ohio and as a football fan, does
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that not seem crazy to you? It does seem crazy,
And it seems crazy that everybody I talked to, everybody's
shaking their head and it seems just arbitrary. Take a
very quick story, I was talking to Uh, my friend
Don and Georgia, the Attorney General of Georgia, and we're
just talking about how COVID is affecting our states and
our offices and one of the at one point I said,
(51:53):
you know, I just can't believe that I'm living in
a world where the SEC is playing football and the
ten is not. I don't know what's going on here.
There's dead silence for a second. And then and then
my buddy Chris Carr down there at a great, great
attorney general, he says, well, I don't see has a
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different than any other year, which as a as a
big ten guy and a buck I alum, made my
blood boiled. But yeah, let's play football. Yeah, so okay,
so I want to die. Now, let's go. I'm gonna
ask you, I always say on my show. So I
don't not sure if you're aware. But I'm a lawyer
as well, and so I don't practice full time anybody
(52:35):
stretch of the imagination. But every now and then on
the show I always say, Okay, I try to talk
to you as a normal person. Now I'll put my
lawyer hat on and we'll have like a more nuanced
discussion about this. And again we're talking to the Attorney
General of the great State of Ohio. And look, I
never would have believed that I would end up the
foremost proponent of of Ohio State football being played, because
(52:57):
I'm born and raised an SEC fan as well. But
it's crazy to me. It's absolutely crazy to me that
only three universities, Ohio State, Iowa, and Nebraska actually voted
in favor of playing. And you we've got an article
up on Outcake, which is where I read this initially,
and you talked to I believe, the Columbus Dispatch, which
is the local newspaper there in Columbus. Walk me through
(53:21):
what kind of claim you believe Ohio State would have
and whether you think the university should sue if the
fall football season remains canceled and the school presidents don't
reconsider their decision they made a month ago to shut
down the season. Well, I do think I have states
to sue if that happens. Hopefully it won't. Uh, but
(53:45):
but we've got some good claims here. The first is
really obvious. It's a contract claim. UH. And there's a
duty implied in every contract of fair dealing. UH. And
you know this doesn't feel like that. I mean, if
you if you want to opt out because you feel
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like COVID is too big of a threat, fine opt out,
don't play, but you know, don't get in the way
of the teams that they do. UH. And that's one
of the effects of where we're at right now, is
they're using the big tens, using their power UH to
try to prevent those that do want to play from
being on the field. There's also a question about tortus
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uh interference with business relationships. And you know, I'm all
about the kids want to see them play. You know,
they they've worked all their lives to get to this
season and have their shot and it's being taken away
from them in an arbitrary way. But let's not forget
that this is also business UH. And there's money involved,
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lots of money, ten million dollars to tens of millions
of dollars UH in revenue. And it's just football. But
that money, as you know, Clay UH, supports all of
the other sports that don't make any money UH. And
also all those kids are getting hit by this too, UH,
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including women's sports UH and the Title nine mandated programs.
So this is a big deal. There's a lot of
equities involved here, but it comes down to uh, contracts
and tourts first law school. Yeah, okay, so contracts and torts,
and we're talking with the Attorney General of the state
of Ohio. I appreciate it him coming on with us.
His name is Dave Yost. You can follow him on
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Twitter at Yost for Ohio. I will tweet out his
Twitter handle here and a little bit um. Okay, So
I want to dive into these claims to a certain extent.
There has been a lot of discussion, and I'm sure
you have followed this over how and weather. For instance,
there was a vote that took place to allow the
season to be canceled. For a long time, the Big
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Ten wouldn't say anything. Then they get sued by the
eight and a Braska players. Suddenly they come out and
they say, yes, there was a vote. It was an
eleven to three vote in favor of canceling the season.
As an attorney general, would you like to see the
minutes of that meeting to see whether or not the
vote complied with existing Big Ten by laws? Have you begun?
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Should there be an investigation into what kind of vote
took place, whether it was appropriate proper under existing state laws,
not only in Ohio, but other states as well. Considering
we're talking about thirteen different state institutions. Only Northwestern is
a private school. There are a lot of state related issues,
as you mentioned, that could be involved in lawsuit, and
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a lawsuit involving this decision. Well, that's right, and my
team has already started collecting documents, uh and reviewing them. UH.
A key question is the by laws or the code
of regulations, uh, constitution of the Big ten um. The
it's not publicly available and so uh obviously that is
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a key element in you know, assessing whether a meeting
was properly called, or whether the votes properly taken, or
whether this committee actually has the legal authority UM to
do what they did. Uh. You know, the we're researching that, UM,
but I think there's some based on what we've seen
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so far, I've got some substantial questions. I think we've
got a pretty good case here. Yeah, Okay, So I'm
fascinated by this and I've gotten asked this question a lot.
And what would happen? We know that Ohio state, we
know that Iowa, and we know that Nebraska want to play.
What would happen if Ohio State said, Hey, we're playing
a game at the Shoe on October three or October tent.
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I saw Jim Harbaugh come out and say, Michigan is
ready to play in two weeks. Uh, what would happen
if these individuals rules said we believe we have the
contractual right to play. In fact, we believe we have
the contractual obligation to play. What would happen if Ohio
State just said, Hey, we're playing Iowa. You're welcome to
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show up on October three, Hey, Michigan will play you.
We want to make sure that we play that game. Hey, Nebraska,
we want to play. How would would somebody be able
to stop them from playing if they just said we're
gonna show up and and as an attorney general of Ohio,
how would you assess that decision? Well, isn't that a
whole bunch of cana worms right there? I mean, it's
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like a law school hypothetical, right for those of us
who have been into law school. But I'm just saying, like,
who's going to stop If Ryan Day came out and
he said, we think, based on potentially consultation with lawyers
at Ohio State, that I'm sure you would have talked
to We think in the state of Ohio that the
Big Ten does not have the authority to cancel our season.
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We think we have obligations and responsibilities based on all
the contracts we've signed, whether it's like local radio contracts,
whether it's you know, all the different obligations that individual
universities have. Who would be there to stop Ohio State
from playing a football game in the shoe if they
elected to do it. So it's a really complicated question.
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I don't mean to dodge it except that I just
don't have enough information to be able to you assumed
some things. There's other things we would have to assume
as well. For example, how would you try to stop it? Yeah,
I mean one of the ways is somebody going to
arrest Ryan day for for showing up at the at
the stadiumf Ohio States allowing him to play that. I mean,
it's it's a fascinating question, right. I don't think that
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that police officer would be very popular in the state
of Ohio if he tried to arrest the Ohio State
football team as they entered the stadium. But I will
tell you I'm delighted to hear that after all these years,
Jim Harbaugh thinks that with two more weeks he'll finally
be ready to have Michigan and ready to play. Yeah. No, no,
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I mean, probably still gonna lose the Ohio State again,
but I at least respect the fact that he's willing
to play. But I mean, isn't that a fascinating question?
In other words, if you think about the political capital here,
if the Big Ten coaches and it seems pretty clear
that they want to play in the Big Ten, a
d s just said hey, we're playing, I don't I
would love to see what the reaction would be. Are
the university is going to sue to stop them from playing.
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I mean, it's certainly at a place like Ohio State
where they want to play, or Nebraska or Iowa, like
I already said, where they voted to play, that certainly
wouldn't happen. I'm just kind of fascinating to see what
might happen there. Yes, it would be fascinating, and who
the planetiff would be and why, what their theory would be,
and what mechanism they try to use. I think it's
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hard to argue that you get specific performance, uh, in
something like that probably comes down to money damages. But
then you you know, what's your place in the league
at that point? Just the league uh to say We're
gonna sit you down to spend give for for a year. Um,
but just too many facts we don't know, Clay Okay. So,
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and we're talking to the Attorney General of the State
of Ohio. I appreciate him joining us. You can follow
him on Twitter again, he has been gracious enough to
join us. His name is Dave Yost at Yost for Ohio. UH.
What kind of conversations do you have with Ohio State.
You talked about the procedural posture of what a lawsuit
might look like. Ohio State is a state institution. I
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imagine that you can, as an attorney general, I would
think sue at times on behalf of the State of
Ohio against people who are involved in trying to keep
State of Ohio institutions from exercising their constitutional uh and
contractual and tortue responsibilities, all these things legally under State
of Ohio law. Have you had conversations with people at
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Ohio State and how have they responded to the idea
of these lawsuits? And who might you sue I'm assuming
the Big Ten. Might you sue other institutions that are
choosing not to play? How would this procedural posture work? So, Uh,
first of all, we are doing our research right now.
Eventually because of that, we don't have final decision yet.
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This could be mooted out. They could decide to do
the right thing. Do you think they will? By the way,
before we get into that, do you think that the
Big T I don't know. Do you think they should
based on what you've seen, not just as a fan
but also legally, you think they should come back and
reassess the decision. Well, and in terms of the you know,
the safety of the thing. As you pointed out, you
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know at the top of our discussion, Um, this is
this has been done in high schools. Is doing being
done the NFL, has been done in other sports and
other leagues, other conferences. So, UM, I we know more
now and hopefully they will reconsider that decision if they
choose not to and this and it doesn't go. Um,
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not only do I think I have state autos the
Big Ten, but I think the universities that got in
the way, UH should individually be sued. UH an invited
to party. Um again, those tens of millions of dollars.
That wasn't through any fault of Ohio State. Obviously, it
wasn't absolutely necessary. Like you, I mean, if there's a
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tornado and it blows down the stadium, you can't have
a game, you can't have a season. You know, I'm
a place to play us forced masre and legal talk.
That's not what's going on here, because there's lots and
lots of sports being played. Um. So we think that
people that unreasonably and arbitrarily got in the way of
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a house STU being able to fulfill its contracts and
the play its season, I'd have to pick up the
tab for that economic loss. This is kind of wild.
So in theory, you're not just sued the Big Ten,
but Ohio State could sue Michigan, Wisconsin, penn State schools
whose presidents voted not to play. They would theoretically be
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on the hook potentially not only for the damages that
they're having to face from not playing, but for keeping
schools like Ohio, Iowa, Ohio State, Iowa, and Nebraska from
playing as well. That's where I want to go. Now,
at the end of the day, I have a client,
and they have to make a decision based on lots
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of lots effects, not just the legal case. Uh. And
I respect that. I'm not the policy guy. I am
the lawyer. UM. But I think the laws are there
and the option is available if they want to take it.
Have you mentioned earlier talking to the attorney general from
the state of Georgia and you know him taking a
shot at the Big Ten not playing, which is vintage
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college football. But h and by the way, in the
state of Mississippi, I don't know if you saw that,
like they put up on the on the highways on
the day that college football started, like don't stay home,
stay home like the Big Ten is or whatever, which
is really funny for people down in the South where
I live. Yeah, but have you talked to other attorney generals,
let's say, in Iowa and in Nebraska, about your theory
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of the case, because in in theory, if it applies
in Ohio, and I know state regulations and laws can
be a little bit different across state lines, but in theory,
your argument for Ohio states suing the same logic would
apply in the states of Nebraska and Iowa, who also
are having the same impact as you in terms of
other schools voting to disallow them to play while a
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lot of other football events are going on in their states. Yeah,
and those conversations haven't happened yet. And again, I continue
to hope that the Big Ten will do the right thing. Um,
but I those conversations will will occur. Uh. If this
thing becomes ripe for a decisions. Who makes the decision
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at Ohio State about whether or not to file the lawsuit? Well,
I think the President, the a G and the board
of trustees will all probably want to weigh in and
get a consensus on that. Does it seem crazy to
you as a lawyer who's looking at the data and
everything else that effectively whether football can happen seems in
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many ways to be reflected by what the governor's political
party is. I mean, most of the country, if you
have a Republican governor, you're playing high school football and
college football. Uh and uh and most of the state
you're you are not going to get me to go there.
That's crazy though, right as an as an attorney general.
Isn't it crazy that based on whether you did the
governor has a deer and R behind his name is
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dictating whether or not. Yeah, all right, we've got the
attorney general. Last last question for you, Attorney General Yost,
he's at Yost for Ohio. What what is the next step?
What's the time frame here? On your behalf? Like, obviously
it's a big deal whether or not Ohio State and
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the other Big Ten schools are able to play sooner
rather than later because they'd like to be a part
of the fall college football season. Uh. What when in
your mind does this the decision have to be made
in terms of lawsuits and also in terms of just
the time frame here, well, the logistics of the season. Uh,
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and whether remember a lot of the I think I
think every one of the Big ten stadiums is an
open air stadium. Um, so weather eventually becomes an issue. Uh.
We're probably in a position where the next couple of weeks,
UH need that the decision needs to be made about
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whether there's going to be a season at the Big Ten.
Now as far as win, can we sue? Um, we've
got a little more room on that. I mean, it's
we could sue next year for that matter. But I
would be obviously for moving forward as quickly as we can.
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These things take time and effort to do, and I
would want to get the money back to Ohio State.
It's so that it can get back to funding all
those other programs that student athletes rely on. I appreciate
your time. Attorney General. He is Dave Yost at Yost
for Ohio on Twitter. He is the Attorney General of
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the State of Ohio. Thank you for coming on with
us and discussing this and let us know as this
process plays out, we may want you to come on
again and discuss what you've learned or what your plans are.
Be sure to catch live editions about kicked the coverage
with Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern three am
Pacific Animal Thunderdome Time. As we roll into the return
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of the NFL. We got tigers on the loose, ladies
and gentlemen. I'm just glad. I was scared, boys and goods.
I thought he thought I was like this enormous piece
of chicken dium times. I have my Space. This is
(01:08:58):
Animal Thunderdog all right, Danny, g what you got for me? Clay,
no big deal in your state. There is a loose
tiger about this. I can't believe it. Here is ABC
six breaking news we've been following. Overnight, the Knox County
Sheriff's Office is asking people to be on the lookout
for a tiger that is on the loose. According to
(01:09:19):
the Sheriff's office, the tiger was spotted late last night
and southeast Knoxville in the Forks of the River Industrial Park.
Multiple agencies searching for the tiger overnight. The t w
r A is taking over this investigation. At last check,
there had been no recent sightings. Were told traps have
been set out to capture the tiger. If anyone has
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information on the missing animal or locates the tiger, please
call the Knox County Sheriff's Office. The rails in Knoxville,
and we haven't even gotten to the start of college
football season, like yet, there is a loose tiger in Knoxville. Um,
and so I mean, I I mean, we got to
follow this story. I hope nobody gets killed by the tiger.
She was so calm. Yeah, I mean, like she's right,
(01:10:02):
and she read that like it's normal for there to
be a loose tiger in Knoxville. And even the article
that I read, like when people started sitting this to me,
I was like, well, is this real? You know, like
there's always sometimes false tiger sightings and stuff like that.
But the article ends with if anyone has any information
on a missing tiger or locates the tiger, they're asked
(01:10:23):
to please contact the Knoxville County Sheriff's office. And by
the way, the Zoos says that all their tigers are
accounted for their So this had to have belonged to
a drug dealer, like we've talked about on the show
many times. Drug dealers are people who would just get tigers,
and maybe it's Carol Baskins. One hour ago, Newsweek says
that the tiger is still on the loose, So the
police are on a mass hunt right now for this
(01:10:44):
loose tigle keep us updated all day on the tiger.
We'll do that, Clay Travis at Danny G Radio. We
gotta make sure we cover this tiger the most. It's
not very often there's a loose tiger, all right, And Clay,
I hate to end the show on this story, but
if you're just gonna ruin everybody's day, hold your Dick
Cheney right now. A Thai team lived out every man's
(01:11:05):
worst nightmare after a snake sunk its fangs into his
dick cheney while he was sitting on the toilet. This
is why I don't like. I don't even like going
to the bathroom that think about how awful this could be.
I looked down and saw there was a snake hanging
onto me. This kid, he's eighteen. He told viral press
that this serpent okay, he lives, went to the bathroom
(01:11:26):
and that snake just bid his dick cheney. So he
was sitting there on the toilet and he was surfing
on his iPhone and he was holding there in in
where he lives, just north of Bangkok. They have a home,
of course it happened in Bangkok. Yes, they don't use
toilet paper. They use a water hole system. He was
holding that, finishing up and he was about to get up,
(01:11:48):
and he felt a very severe pain in his dick cheney.
He gets up, there's blood spewing all over. He grabs
the head of this python and he tries to slam
it in a door to get it off of him.
The bathroom door doesn't work. His mom calls for help.
Oh god, this is like my my, what's the mary,
(01:12:11):
what's the show? What's the movie? Something I think about
Mary when he gets his dick cheney caught in the zipper.
Listen to what the eighteen year old says. The doctor said,
my penis can be used as normal. Soon, gush the
grateful team his masket. His mom said she's relieved that
the snake was a non venomous python and not a
deadly cobra. So wait, how did they get the Oh? God,
(01:12:33):
of all the places you could be bitten by a cobra,
right and the dick cheney, So how did they get
it off? Though they had to wait for the paramedic
to help. There is picture. I'm gonna tweet this out
at Danny G Radio and I will tweet it to
you at Clay Travis. You could see the blood all
over the bathroom and the snake is still in the toilet.
I don't know what's worse than being bitten in the
(01:12:55):
dick cheney by a python, maybe having to scream to
your mom to come help rescue you. That's why I'm
not going to Bangkok. I'll stay right here. Uh if
I do, you think you're having a rough day, at
least you're dick. Jeney didn't get bit by a Snake.
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