November 16, 2017 • 44 mins
Clay Travis talks about the rumors surrounding head coaching vacancies in college football, the ever declining ratings for the NFL, and a preview of Thursday Night Football with voice of the Titans Mike Keith.
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This is the best of out kick the coverage with
Clay Travis on Fox Sports Radio. This time of year
is so addictive if you are a college football fan,
because it's the crazy coaching carousel, the crazy season. When
it comes to the rumors that are out there and
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my phone is constantly blowing up, I'm texting with everybody, Asians,
media members, coaches. What are you hearing? Who's gonna go where?
It's as if suddenly everybody is in the c I
a trying to figure out how to read all of
the different signs and make sense of them. Florida Gators
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have an open job, Chip Kelly Scott Frost, who's gonna
be there? Nebraska is gonna open up. Arkansas fires their
athletic director, meaning that they're gonna have to probably hire
an a d and a new coach. What are the
Razorbacks gonna do? Tennessee is after John on Gruden in
hot pursuit. I have legitimate people who I trust that
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believe that John Gruden is gonna be the next coach
at the University of Tennessee, such that they've even got
me convinced. There's all sorts of wild conspiracy theories out there.
Arkansas fans think that they're gonna hire Gus miles on
from Auburn, UH Texas A and M supposedly even though
they still have a head coach who could finish eight
and four or five and three in the SEC, supposedly
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making a full on run at Jimbo Fisher from Florida State,
Dan Mullen at Mississippi State, supposedly the bell of the ball.
Several different places interested in him. Offshore gambling odds are moving.
It is the craziest time of year. All while this
is taking place in college football, the playoffs t is
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set up and and inching closer and closer. Who knows
what exactly is gonna happen, But I can't stop. I
won't stop. I am addicted to the coaching, cares cell
and everything that happens. Soon, the first domino will fall,
which will set off an amazing reaction across the universe
of college football, because, unlike in the NFL, where people
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have to actually be held to their contracts, there is
perpetual coaching free agency in college football. That is, it
doesn't matter if you have a contract. If somebody offers
you more money, you can break it. You can go
from coaching Alabama one day to Auburn the next. It
is flat out insanity. Now. I don't know what's gonna
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end up happening, but I do know that this time
of year doesn't get any better than this at all.
Um On top of that, several fascinating stories that are
breaking in the NFL. Nathan Peterman is in as your
quarterback with the Buffalo Bills. I don't really remember a
time before where a five and four team that would
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theoretically have the last spot in the playoffs right now
just effectively turns the page and says, you know what,
we're not good enough to really be a playoff team.
Let's figure out if Nathan Peterman is any good because
we have no faith anymore in Tyrod Taylor. Now I
hate to be the guy who said I told you so,
but I have been telling you for a while now
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that Tyrod Taylor was not the answer. That they couldn't
win a game in the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. And
there have been doubters out there who've been telling me
I was crazy. The Bills had gotten up to five
and two, guess what they've gotten whipped the last two
weeks by the Jets, and then at home the destruction
that they got from the Saints. I think it was
a sobering wake up experience for everybody, and they said,
wait a minute, we're not gonna be anything better than
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eight and eight with Tyrod Taylor. We need to go
ahead and figure out what the future of this franchise
is gonna be. Speaking of the future of the franchise,
I believe Marcus Mariota is the future of the franchise.
Tonight on Thursday Night Football, We've got a really fascinating
game going on between the Titans and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
A lot of you out there right now are not
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even aware that the Titans are six and three, and that, frankly,
if Marcus Mariota had not gotten hurt, they'd probably be
seven and two and tied with the Patriots and the
Steelers for the best record in the a f C.
So are the Titans for real or are they a
pretend team. We're gonna talk with Mike Keith. He's the
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voice of the Titans. He's gonna be up in Pittsburgh
tonight calling that game and what should be a big
Thursday night football game as we try and figure out
what's up with the Steelers who played at the level
of competition every week, and what's up with the Titans.
Are they good enough to go on the road and
win against what would be the number one overall seed
in the a f C, the Pittsburgh Steelers. If you
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guys have not watched Marcus Mario to play very much,
do you agree with me that he is a real
the real deal just twenty four years old. And he
just turned twenty four years old. Uh. He is now
in his third year with the Titans, and the team
has been built around him in a way that I
still have no idea exactly what the result of this
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season are gonna be, But I think that the Titans
still have an incredibly high ceiling. That is, they haven't
jelled in any way, they haven't necessarily played great, but
they found a way to win six games. They've got
a quarterback in Steve in Steve McNair in Marcus Mariota
who reminds me a little bit of Steve McNair in
that they the Titans have enough confidence in him that
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they believe if he gets the ball late in the game,
he's gonna drive down the field. And score and give
them an opportunity to win in every game that they
are in. And we've seen that recently, the Titans scoring
with about thirty six seconds to go against uh, the
Cincinnati Bengals. So the Titans seemed to be fairly healthy,
the Steelers seem to be fairly healthy. I know Thursday
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night football comes in for a lot of criticism, but
I think we've got a really big Thursday night football
game that a lot of you are going to enjoy,
and that I myself, I'm certainly gonna enjoy so much
so that we're planning here in the house because we've
got young kids who are also football fans. We got
naptime going on in the Travis household. So this afternoon,
as soon as the boys get home from school, if
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they want to stay up and watch the whole game,
because it won't be over till eleven thirty Eastern, they
have to take a nap. Whole family might have to
take a nap to be able to stay up because
obviously I'm watching the whole thing and then getting up
like I usually do for Friday Morning show, even after
not very much sleep. Another fascinating a little bit of
news for you, guys. I've been having a lot of
conversations with people who are involved in the NFL and
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that we all know that the ratings are down for
the NFL and that a lot fewer people are watching,
and much of the discussion has centered on the protest.
I'm gonna talk to you more about this, But people
I'm talking to have given me four reasons why NFL
ratings are down, and I think those four reading rating
reasons are fascinating. I'm going to write about this today
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on my website, OutKick dot I'll kick the coverage OutKick
dot com. You can check it out. I think if
you're an NFL fan, you're gonna want to read this article.
But there are four big buckets, four prongs as to
why ratings are down so substantially over the last two years.
According to the people that I have been talking to.
Prong one and the most important, is the decline of
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the one o'clock eastern kickoff window. There are fewer and
fewer games that kick off at one o'clock Eastern, meaning
that the overall quality of the game there is not
what it used to be. Now, if you're old enough
in my age, you remember over time. That one o'clock
Eastern twelve o'clock Central game, specially for everybody who is
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in the Eastern or the Central time zones, is the quintessential.
On Sunday, you wake up, you go to church, and
then you come home and you sit down in front
of the television and you flip it on and the
NFL is playing. I can't tell you the number of
times as a kid that I would go to church.
I think that's probably still the foundational move of the
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vast majority of you who listened to this Uh. Listen
to this show. Uh if you're especially if you're in
the heartland of the country, on Sunday, you would wake up,
you would go to church, go to Sunday school, go
here the pastor speak, and then you go get lunch,
and you get home and you put on the television
and the NFL is kicked off and you watch the NFL.
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A lot of you would follow that routine for a
long time. Well, the people I'm talking to are saying
that the lack of strong games at one o'clock Eastern
are becoming a drag on the NFL's over rating, overall
ratings and the conversations I was having I'm thinking about
that that certainly is gonna apply for me this coming Sunday,
because I'm more interested in watching the Titans and the
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Steelers game. But I'm watching that on Thursday. So I
already told my wife, who, look, I spend a lot
of time watching football, and I try when I can
to uh to to do things with my family on
the weekend that are something other than watching football. So
already told my wife, Hey, the Titans play on Thursday night.
I don't need to be up and watching every game
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on Sunday this week. Let's go out and do something
on what it should be a pretty good Sunday weather,
because I'll be spending all day Saturday watching college football.
And so the number one reason why the NFL ratings
are declining, I am told, is because of the decline
of that one o'clock Eastern game. Now that may surprise
some of you, but I I think when you really
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kind of break it down, it's an intriguing perspective to
be in that that one o'clock Eastern game is not
necessarily the same as it used to be when I
was a kid, or even as the years have progressed,
they have slowly taken away games from that one o'clock
eastern window Sunday Night Football on NBC Thursday Night Football.
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Now you got Monday Night Football, three different windows where
there's only one game on, and those are the best games,
and a lot of them would have otherwise been one
o'clock eastern games two and I think, uh. And an
additional kind of fascinating part of why the ratings are down,
I am told, is l A. Think about l A,
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think about the city of Los Angeles. Our guys out there,
Danny g and Justin can swear to this. And I
know because I used to spend a lot of time
in l A on Sundays. Before you got the Chargers
and before you got the uh, the the Rams, you
got the best game every weekend, and so if the
Cowboys were really good, that got popped into l A.
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Ratings are down in l A by a couple of
tents of ratings points, which makes a big deal in
the overall revenue. Ratings are down because of why because
people aren't watching the Rams and the Chargers as much
as they were the best teams otherwise, whether it's the Raiders,
whether it's the Cowboys, people in l A over the
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last twenty years, got used to always getting the best game,
and Danny g and Justin you guys can speak to this.
Now you guys don't get the best game anymore, and
so as a result, it can be pretty frustrating. I
would imagine you guys speak to this better than anybody
to put on your put on your television, and it
might not be anywhere near as good of a game
as you would have gotten before the NFL actually expanded
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to Los Angeles. Yeah, it was almost like we had
three primetime games every Sunday, because we had the really
great Fox game and and CBS game, and then we
had the Sunday night game on NBC. So it went
from that to now the Chargers. Thank good Thank goodness
that the Rams are much improved, because at least they're
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exciting to watch right now. Yeah, look, I mean and
the Rams. I mean that's gonna be the savior in
the years ahead, is that people will get more invested
in the local team. But right now, you've got a
twenty year history of people not necessarily wanting to watch
the Rams or to watch the Chargers, instead wanting whatever
teams they've gotten used to, and that's kind of vanished,
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and so the other one, uh in in the in
terms of there's four buckets here, I'm told that are
that are costing the NFL. The other one here is
bad football. And you know it's funny when I put
up the poll and I say, why are you guys
watching or not watching the NFL? Bad football is the
number one result. And the quality of the game has
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gone down to a large extent, I think because the
quality of quarterback play continues to decline, and so you
end up with games like Josh McCown against Ryan Fitzpatrick. Right.
I mean, if there's not a good quarterback, it's a
different caliber of game. For instance, tonight's game Thursday Night Football,
I think Marcus Mariota against Ben Roethlisberger is gonna be
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fantastic because you have two really good quarterback playing. Now.
Could one of those quarterbacks have a bad game, yes,
But when you have two quarterbacks with masters of the
overall flow of the game, it makes a difference. The
fourth bucket here, and we're gonna talk, by the way,
to Mike Keith, the voice of the Titans. I'm gonna
talk to him an hour to an hour three. We'll
talk with Todd Ferman, my guy out in the desert.
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I always try to give you guys a road map
because so many of you are downloading the podcast now,
I want to let you know what you got coming ahead.
So thanks to the millions of you out there that
are downloading the podcast every month. Um. The other thing
I am told is obviously the protest. Now, the protest
has gotten all the attention, but when I was talking
to people associated with the NFL, the decimation of the
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one o'clock Eastern hour Bad Football the West Coast in particular,
l A, the ratings declining despite the fact that there
are teams there now, and the protest. All four of
those things this is the culminating point here. All four
of those factors have conspired to drive down NFL ratings,
and guys, I am told that Fox, CBS, ESPN, and NBC,
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all four of them collectively, and this is gonna be
kind of a jaw dropping moment for you. All four
of them collectively are losing hundreds of millions of dollars
because of the decline in ratings this year up to
I am told, five hundred million dollars in law revenue
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this year because of the decline in NFL ratings. So
for people out there who are like, oh, this is
no big deal, people are overreacting. Those four factors are
what I am told smart people out there involved in
the NFL are pointing to as to why ratings are down.
But the overall impact and I'm gonna write about this
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and I haven't heard hardly anybody really put a dollar
figure on this. I'm told this for sure into the
hundreds of millions of dollars and potentially could approach five
hundred million dollars in lost revenue for CBS, Fox, NBC,
and ESPN, Slash ABC. That is like, whoa. I mean,
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I think a lot of you are here in that
number right now. And it's kind of a record scratch moment,
nearly half a billion dollars in lost revenue based on
the decline in ratings. So what's the solution. How can
the NFL get back? It's groove. I'm gonna talk about
that a little bit with you within the context of what, again,
I think is an interesting Thursday night football game. There's
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a lot of debate going on right now about whether
Roger Goodell deserves to return as NFL commissioner, the fight
with Jerry Jones has gotten worse. I'm gonna tell you
about some of those details, but I also want you
to know that one reason there's such a fight going
on is because of what I just laid out. There
are a lot of league partners in the television universe,
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a lot in the advertising universe. Remember I'm just talking
about the television ratings universe that are very nervous about
what's going on with the NFL ratings and very desirous
of it to get fixed, and get fixed in a hurry.
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Donald Trump has tweeted about the u c l A
Basketball players in the last fifteen minutes. Donald Trump one
of the only people who's up as early as we are,
so all over the country. My Twitter feed is usually
pretty silent for the first hour of the show in
terms of people that I follow tweeting. Donald Trump, President
of the United States, says to the three u c
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l A Basketball players, I say you're welcome. Go out
and give a big thank you to President z Uh
ying Ping and and I'm sure I just just absolutely
murdered that name. Uh z uh. One of you guys
can figure out how I'm supposed to be pronouncing this
President z Yen Ping of China, who made your release possible,
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and have a great life. All caps, be careful, there
are many pitfalls on the long and winding road of life.
Donald Trump with a message and a uh, I'm gonna
retweet that so you can go find it. But Donald
Trump weighing in on the U c l A men's
basketball team who did thank him for his work to
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get them released. We spent a lot of time talking
about that yesterday, how the sports media did not cover
Donald Trump's work and getting these guys covered, and then
they ended up covering him saying that he wanted them
to say thanks. So this is actually about his magnanimous
of a of a tweet, as you'll see from the
President again, Donald Trump to the three U c l.
A basketball players, I say, you're welcome. Go out and
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give a big thank you to President. We did you
guys figure out how to pronounce this ge? And and
then how about the second one? Anybody know anybody? Z
z Yen Ping of China, who made uh your release possible.
Have a great life. Be careful. There are many pitfalls
on the long and winding road of life that is
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Donald Trump. Now, I told you that I was gonna
tell you what I am hearing about these college football jobs.
I started off the show saying, I can't sleep at
night because my phone is blowing up. Everybody is thrilled
to be discussing all of this. I know that John
Gruden has reached out to multiple people about being on
his staff at the University of Tennessee. So John Gruden
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is sincerely considering taking the University of Tennessee head coaching
job and leaving Monday Night football. I think that John
Gruden is not angling to make more money from Monday
Night Football. I think John Gruden will be on a
sideline coaching in eighteen somewhere, could be in the NFL,
could be at the University of Tennessee. And for people
out there who say why would he go to University
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of Tennessee, well he uh. He's a former graduate assistant there.
He met his wife, who was a former University of
Tennessee cheerleader. His son is currently enrolled at the university.
His wife's family is all from the Knoxville area in
East Tennessee. So what I have been told is if
John Gruden takes that job, he will bring one of
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his sons, who is a strength coach, to work on
his staff at Tennessee. His wife will be ecstatic because
she will be living back close to her family. So
if John Gruden is going to be working twenty hours
a week, then she's got a support structure around her
to allow her to have a good life. If you
know anything, a body happy if mama ain't happy, well,
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this would theoretically allow her to be close to her family,
everybody back in the same city. Her son is enrolled
at the University of Tennessee. Uh, she would have another
son who's working on the coaching staff, hurts. Her husband
would be the head coach of Tennessee. And there is
something to John Gruden about the college game that he
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understands would help him to be kind of, from a
resume perspective, more of a legend. I've been making this argument,
and I think it's totally true. You don't become a
coaching legend in the NFL. In the last twenty five years.
The only legendary coach in the NFL is Bill Belichick.
Everybody else is totally playing second fiddle to their quarterback.
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You become a legend in the NFL by being a
great quarterback. That's it. You don't become a legend by
becoming a by becoming a coach in the NFL. In college,
you become a legend as a coach. And so John
Gruden has the opportunity potentially to go back to the
University of Tennessee. I am hearing several other interesting things
about open jobs. I think that Florida is gonna hire
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Chip Kelly. I think that that is going to happen
based on the people I am talking to. I don't
think it's a smoke screen. I think that Nebraska is
likely to be able to make a play and potentially
get Scott Frost depending on how all of this shakes out.
And and this is pretty intriguing. I think Texas A
and M is gonna get Jimbo Fisher from Florida State,
which would then open up the Florida State job as well,
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which would really set the coaching dominoes all moving. Finally,
Arkansas fired their athletic director. They're gonna have to hire
a new a d and a new coach. A couple
of thoughts here, One, can you imagine if Arkansas went
and hired Tom Jurich, the fired athletic director from Louisville,
and he brought Bobby Petrino back to the Razorbacks. First
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of all, that is a crazy idea, but I think
there's probably a lot of Arkansas people who would say,
you know what, I'd take back Bobby Petrino. Secondly, what
about this as an intriguing play that I am hearing
a lot of Arkansas people are trying to make happen.
You know who? They want? Gus miles On the head
coach of Auburn. Now, I don't think the timing is
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likely to work out if Auburn beats Alabama in the
final in the Iron Bowl. But if Auburn loses to
Alabama in two weeks, could Arkansas steal away Gus miles On,
who is from the Fayetteville area Springfield, Arkansas. Could they
steal away Auburn's head coach because Gus Malson has not
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felt like he's that wanted at Auburn and signed him
to a massive deal to bring him to Arkansas. That
my friends. Is why it's crazy right now in the
college coaching carousel. Lots of different drama and potential potential
outcomes there now. Ironically, if Auburn beats Alabama and advances
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to the SEC Idle Game and wins, certainly that would
not be a viable option. But if Auburn loses to Alabama,
that would be a really intriguing move. Put that on
your radar screen as a potential wild story. Be sure
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Week eleven of the NFL kicks off tonight Thursday Night
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Football the six and three Tennessee Titans traveling to Pittsburgh
to take on the seven into Pittsburgh Steelers. Got Mike
Keith with us now. He's the voice of the Tennessee Titans.
Good friend of mine, known him for years, and Mike,
the first question I'm gonna ask you is are the
Titans any good? I think they are. I think this
is a pretty good football team. But I think Clay
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what jumps out to me about the Titans in watching
them is I think they're ever evolving. I don't believe
this football team has gotten anywhere near as good as
it can be, and the performance against Cincinnati on Sunday
was a pretty good illustration of that. They've left fourteen
points out there that they very could have easily scored.
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They had another mistake where they could have down the
ball at the one yard line. And no NFL team
is going to be perfect, and the other teams are
certainly trying to make things hard. But this team still
has not completely jelled and I thought it would take
them a while to sort of gain their full form,
and that seems to be the case. But what they
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do have is they do have a lot more playmakers
than they've had in years. And the other part to
Clay is they have a real confidence in themselves. They
have a real belief in themselves and because of that,
they think they're good. And I don't mean that in
a cocky way. I mean that in a confidence standpoint,
and when you have that, which the Titans haven't had
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in years, it makes a real difference as you get
into November and head towards December, hopefully right in the
middle of the playoff race. So they are right in
the middle of the playoff race, right now, in fact,
the overall number four seed in the a f C,
and they're playing against the team that would be the
number one overall seed, almost potentially a playoff preview game.
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How big and how important is the way that they perform,
not just whether they win or lose, but the way
that they perform in this game in the grand scheme
of things for this season. I think you said it,
the way that they perform, because the next two weeks,
we could argue are more important for the Titans because
they play at Indianapolis and they've never won at Lucas
Oil Stadium, and then they have Houston at home, a
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team that beat them by forty three points in Week four.
So those two games in the grand scheme of things
from a strategical standpoint, are probably bigger. But going down
on this national stage tonight here in Pittsburgh, going toe
to toe with a team like the Steelers, a team
that very much appears to be back to where the
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Steelers want to be after they have retooled over the
last couple of seasons, I think it's a big deal. Certainly,
you want to win, but I think you want to
leave here having gotten the attention of everybody that you
belong in games like this, and that if we see
a team like the Titans in a game like this
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in January, that they can sort of stand up to it,
that they're ready to take that next step. You'd very
much like to win, but it's hard to win in
Pittsburgh at Hines Field in primetime. Marcus Mariota is twenty
four years old. I believe he just turned twenty four,
if I'm not mistaken. He is in his third year
in the NFL. He is six and two this year
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as a starter. A lot of times guys become known
based on how they perform in these major national window
games where everybody across the league and across the country
is watching. How good, in your opinion is Marcus Mariotta?
How big is this game for him as the second
half of his third year gets under way and he's
now out there on the national stage or The key
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for Marcus is it's big. You know, these are big
sit auations, but he's been in so many of them.
You know, back to Oregon, he got used to the
to the spotlight, winning the Heisman Trophy. I don't think
any of this makes him nervous. We all want to
see him on Thursday night primetime football here in Pittsburgh.
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We all know what this means, and he gets it,
but it doesn't get to him and where I think
he is too. It's funny statistically, he was a lot
further along this time last year than he is this season.
Now he's played much better defenses to this point. That's
sort of added into the fact that he hasn't piled
up big numbers, and yet there are more people nationally
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who perceive him as taking the next step because he's
helping get the Titans Monday night football. He got him
home with a big fourth quarter, gotta win at Cleveland
and overtime held off Baltimore with a drive that they
absolutely had had to have, come back against Cincinnati and
score with thirty six seconds to go. Oftentimes, perception is
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reality in terms of how we view quarterbacks. I saw
it happen. You saw it happen with Steve McNair in
the two thousand to season and it led him to
an m v P year in two thousand three. I
think Mariota is taking that jump in the eyes of people,
and I think he has a chance to make even
more of a jump against the Steelers here tonight. You
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said you believe the Titans are a good football team.
I have watched them play every game. They're six and three.
There's their record ru to reflect that they're a good
football team, but they've been very erratic. What's the ceiling
for this team? I think the ceiling is way up there.
I don't think they're anywhere close to what they have
a chance to be. They added parts in this offseason
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that I felt like would make them better. I thought
the secondary, which they almost completely turned over through the
draft in free agency, I think we can see that
it's better. The pass rush has not been quite what
we hoped it would be, but I think it can
get better down the stretch. I think you could see
a Brian a rack Po or a Derek Morgan have
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an Adrian Claybourne type game. Maybe not an Adrian Clayburn,
but I think you could see some explosion there that
we haven't seen. Offensively, the thing that really jumps out
to me is you've got you've got Decker, and you've
got Davis, and you've got Smith the tight end, and
you've got Taylor the wide receiver. All these new parts,
and because of injuries and other things that have sort
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of gone on when Decker was signed, for example, they
haven't been together a whole lot, and just now this
group is starting to practice together and in the last
two weeks six trips inside the red zone on offense,
six touchdowns after being thirty first in the league after
seven games, we knew they were better than that Clay
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and now they're starting to show it. So I don't
I don't know if I want to say the roof
is the ceiling, but uh and I that's a node
to my son who goes to North Carolina, by the way,
But I do believe that this ball club has the
ability to to get a lot better as they go.
When we see it all this year, I don't know,
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you know, I think that's what everybody hopes for. But
I think we see the parts and the strategy and
the style are in place for the Titans to be
a team that we're talking about for the next few years.
We're talking to Mike Keith. He's the voice of the Titans,
one new edition that I think the nation is going
to learn about because I've been kind of blown away
by how much better he's gotten weeks a week, and
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I watched him play a lot at usc Adory Jackson.
I mean, they are bringing him in to work on
the offensive side of the ball, and he's explosive every
time he touches the ball there, so wouldn't surprise me
if they've got a wrinkle or two for Pittsburgh where
he's in on the offensive side of the ball. He
has returned punts very successfully, in fact, had two called
back for for uh for kind of borderline blocks in
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the back that you really didn't need to be able
to ex float and score. And defensively as a starting corner,
he made a lot of really big plays against the
Bengals last weekend. What have you seen for him? And
is he ready to kind of become a guy that
people in the NFL need to be paying attention to.
He doesn't have a pick yet, and so it's about
time for that. And I think if the Titans are
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gonna win tonight, I think there's a very good chance
they needed defensive touchdown. I think that it's gonna be
one of those games where you know it's not gonna
be forty one to thirty eight, so you know it
may be a dory time in that area. If you
go back and look at the draft though, just to
touch on him specifically, Clay, the Titans are picking at
number eighteen. They've taken Corey Davis at number five, They're
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picking at number eight team with their second first round pick.
It seems like they're gonna go corner there. They have
a lot of good choices and and guys who have
turned out to be good players in the league. But
they quickly, you know, sort of rushed the card up
there to get a Dory Jackson based on the fact
that they felt like he would be very good in
this defense and that he would give them the overall
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versatility that they needed. And his play, as you said,
and I think you put it well, his play is
really expanded since he got here. But he's kind of
the perfect fit for what Dick Lebow wants out of
him on defense. And he's also the perfect fit for
what John Robinson wants out of a Titan. And John
the general manager, wants a lot of versatility in his roster.
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He wants a lot of different options. So there were
some people who said, oh, a, Dore's not big enough,
or I don't know if he's exactly this style of player,
but I think John Robinson has already identified what he
wants in a Titan, and that doesn't mean every pick
that the Titans make is gonna be as good as
a Dori Jackson. But I think in terms of his
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style of play, his versatility, and his personality, uh as
we like to say in uh in Tennessee, he ain't scared. Um.
Dori Jackson is never scared. He gives up a completion,
he's coming right back. And that mindset is very hard
to find in the young corner. And he certainly has
that big game tonight obviously between the Titans and the Steelers.
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But also you have worked on the college side of
the equation as well. And one of the interesting things
I think about the NFL versus college is effectively in
the NFL now, the people who become legends are quarterbacks.
We talked about Marcus Mariota, he'll be going up against
Ben Roethlisberger. There are a lot of legendary quarterbacks just
left the league. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees is
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having a resurgence this year, may challenge for his second
Super Bowl. Brett Farvev Like I can go through a
list of long time last twenty years, big time legendary quarterbacks.
Where college football is different in many respects is I
think it's the coaches who become legends rather than Belichick
in the last twenty five years. I don't know that
I can really point to anybody in the NFL. Obviously,
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back in the day Bill Walsh, du Shula, you can
say Lombardi, you can go through a whole list of
guys who became legends back in the day of nf
fell coaching. But now it's a quarterbacks league. College is
a coaching league. You worked on the college side. Never
in the NFL do we have the same kind of
drama associated with who's going to be the next coach
in the NFL like we do in college. What in
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the world. Having said all that, you worked at the
University of Tennessee for a while, who do you think
Tennessee ends up with as the coach before all of
a sudden done wow, putting on the spot. Yeah, that's
a tough one. Um, It's it's really tough from the
standpoint that they have to define exactly where they go
after Butch Jones, they have to define what what is
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that fit that is next? I mean Butch Jones came
in and and he had to do a lot of salesmanship.
You know, that was a big part of the job.
I think they're gonna go more veteran coach. I think
they're gonna go less of an up and comer and
more somebody who has some skins on the wall, because
I think the feeling is with that person taking what
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they have right now, which is better than what it's
Jones found, and then adding to it, not only in
terms of player talent, but adding to it in terms
of coaching staff and acumen. Just trying to take this
program up. I think you're you're looking to build on that.
That's the next move, and you know there are there
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are a lot of great choices out there. I mean,
the Tennessee fans keep talking about Dan Mullen a great deal.
Dan Mullen has had a tremendous amount of success at
Mississippi State, and he knows the conference. I think having
somebody who knows the conference makes a ton of sense.
I don't think it's necessary, uh, in terms of that,
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In terms of that that you have to have that
a guy like Dave Ran at or at NC State
is a is a guy that I think could be
a good choice for a place like Tennessee, who has
had success at Northern Illinois at NC State. Mike, Ultimately,
what do you think happens tonight? All right? At you
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into college football? Now, I'm gonna reel you back into
the big game going on tonight we go Levin's premier contest,
the Titans against the Steelers. What do you think viewers
will see at the end of the game. I think
they're gonna see either Ben Roethlisberger or Marcus Mariota with
a drive to win the game at the end. You know,
I don't know if it's the Steelers coming from behind
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or the Titans coming from behind, but I think that's
the kind of game we get out of tonight because
I think about these two teams. You know, sometimes these
Thursday night matchups aren't very good because the teams aren't
very well formed or they've had a major injury that
impacts them dramatically. Play. Both of these teams are remarkably
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healthy coming into you know, what amounts to a really
huge Thursday night game for both of them. I think
it comes right down to the end. I think it's
very tight, and I think whomever wins this game walks
away looking at the other team and saying, we could
see you again in January. I really do believe it's
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a heavyweight battle tonight. Outstanding stuff, Mike Keith. A lot
of people will be listening, will certainly be watching. Can't
wait to see what happens. Appreciate you getting up early
with us on this Thursday. Enjoy the game tonight. It
could be a lot of fun to keep me Clay,
Thanks for having me on your ship. Fox Sports Radio
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and within the I Heart Radio app. Nick Saban was
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in his press conference pray for Mercer, I believe it's
who they play against, and he decided to lead off
his press conference talking about his opinion on blue jeans.
Really this happened, I guess I just wanted to know
how we got here. Not to offend anybody out there,
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but I just walked by some jeans, wore out jeans,
holes in them, all cut up. I just remember when
I was a kid in West Virginia, I was just
shamed to go to school because my jeans were war out,
only because we didn't have any better. Now they buy
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him that way. I just can't forget. How do we
get here? Nick's pray for Mercer. You know, when it's
a couple of days before a game and Nick Saban's
leading off his his talk about about blue jeans, it's
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probably a really good day at practice. Maybe be a
little bit nervous for Auburn too. Nick Saban, stand up comic,
takes the mic and decides to do some material on
people wearing ripped up blue jeans. There is some truth
to that, people paying a lot of money for ripped
up blue jeans. You see, people paid this. Leonardo da Vincio,
Leonardo da Vincio, Leonardo da Vinci. I believe it was right.
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Wasn't it a Da Vinci that that sold for four
dred and fifty million dollars last night? Did you guys
see that story? Anybody have any class or character on
this show other than me? Any of you. I don't care.
You just step out of I don't like, I don't
I don't like. Well, look I'm looking it up right now,
but you don't. You act like that's some story you
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cared about. I think it's a big deal that a
painting sold for as much as a professional sports team
would sell for because I've been making the analogy for
a long time that basically, professional sports franchises are paintings
for rich guys. Rich guys out there. The reason why
painting sell for so much money is because rich guys
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can hang them on their wall and say, hey, I
spent four hundred and fifty million dollars for this, And
a lot of people haven't realized that about pro sports franchises.
They're not being bought for the money they're gonna be making.
They're being bought so that they can prove that they
can afford them. Like everybody's like, oh my god, I
can't believe Steve Bamber spent two billion dollars for the Clippers. Well,
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the reason why he spent two billion dollars for the
Clippers was because he could could spend two billion dollars
for the Clippers for the same reason that some guy
just spent four hundred and fifty million dollars. I believe
it's a DaVinci. I'm sorry for having Why did this
guy stay anonymous? I don't know. I don't know why
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you stay anonymous. A lot of times they stay anonymous
because the guy who's actually buying isn't the one who's
gonna buy it. Does that make sense, Like they have
a proxy who's doing the bidding. Yeah, like a personal shot,
really high end personal shopper. Obviously, if you're bidding four
hundred and fifty million dollars on something, I mean, that
is what I believe that's more than a lot of uh.
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And I know the numbers have gone up as precipitously
in the last couple of years in the NBA because
ESPN has gone bankrupt giving them the money that they
did for their television contract. But this is UH. But
even before that new television contract, I think you could
buy an NBA franchise for four hundred and fifty million dollars.
Like four years ago, I think you could buy an
NBA I think there were NBA teams going for less
(39:55):
than five hundred million dollars. So you could buy an
NBA franchise, or you could buy this pain What is
the Da Vinci painting that's sold for four Savior of
the World. It's Christ. Yeah, it's the only Da Vinci
painting that is not in any museum. It's amazing. Actually,
The story behind this painting is pretty incredible. The first
it was originally part of Charles the first Royal Collection.
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This is amazing, the King of England. It was sold
for It was sold for just forty five pounds in
the nineteen fifties as it was mistaken for a copy.
Then they realized it was the real thing, and of
course it's sold. It's called the Salvatur Munday a Savior
of the World as as it was translated. So yeah,
forty five pounds in the fifties to four hundred and
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fifty point three million dollars last night. That's unbelievable. So
somebody bought this painting for forty five pounds, which is
roughly like what like sixty bucks right now, pretty much
seventy bucks something like that. Um, and it's sold for
four hundred and fifty million. It's the most expensive painting
in the history of the world. Yes, I mean that
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is an unblood Like where do you even put a four?
I'm assuming the guy will have to get on loan somewhere, right,
because I'd be can you imagine, like I get nervous
just thinking about like the reason I don't have expensive
sunglasses or an expensive watch, or like, there's nothing that
I carry around with me that has any value other
than my brain. The only thing in my body that
has value is my brain. But I don't I'm not
(41:23):
like a possession guy, right, Like my wife's got a
couple of nice rings, some nice jewelry. I don't own
anything of any value right other than my house. Like,
there's nothing that I can carry that people will be like, oh,
that guy's got money. So I don't have a watch.
I don't do like an expensive sunglasses. I don't have
expensive clothes, none of that stuff. All right, That's just
I'm not that interested in it. But partly that's because
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if I spent Like, what's the most you guys have
ever spent for a pair of sunglasses? Jays? I bet
you don't even wear sunglasses, Jason Martin, I even I'm
buying to you, what's the most you've ever What's the
most you've ever spent for sunglasses? It was this year
because its first time I've been able to wear them
because I got contacts this year. So about any books
and that will be the most I would ever spend.
What about you guys, I have a pair at home
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that costs three D see. I mean just never hearing
that makes me nervous because I lose every pair of
sunglasses that I have, so I wear like free sunglasses
everywhere I go because then if I lose them, I
don't feel bad. And I just can't even imagine. If
you had a painting worth four hundred and fifty million dollars,
where do you keep it? I'd be too afraid to
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own it to a museum, I think, I think, I
think that's what I think. That's what would happen. It's
the same thing. It's like you were asking why you'd
want to stay anonymous, That's why I'd want to stay anonymous,
quite frankly, like, if you want to own it's because
you obviously have some kind of a passion for it,
and there's a small select group of people I guess
that might be able to know. But it's like if
you win the lottery, I don't know the great thing
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that comes from everyone knowing that you win the lottery,
Like I would kind of like to stay in the background.
Nobody needs to know those kind of affairs on that
level with me, if you're that rich, you're probably already
powerful enough that you don't need to spread around that
you own the Salvatur Monday at four fifty million dollars
what they thought it was gonna go. I I actually
read about that, Like, I'm not not like you Jason
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Martin who just says I don't like art. My thing
is I don't Contemporary art to me is a total sham.
Like I think that everybody out there who believes that
they can tell the difference between what a kid did
with finger paint versus what something that's gonna sell for
a million dollars, I think you're full of crap. I
think that in general, there is a total sham when
it comes to contemporary art. But the old school art
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that you stand in front of and you can actually
tell what's going on there, Like I don't get the
deal with like, oh, here's three little dabs of paint.
Here's like a random like swoosh, Like I don't understand
any of that stuff. But the actual things that reflect
you know that to reflect something you can see. Um,
I am kind of fascinated. I think this went for
three times as much as they were forecasting. They knew
it was gonna be expensive, but it was started at
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it started to two hundred million dollar mark. Then telephone
bidders started pushing it up two million dollars at a time,
and I spoke wrong. I don't hate ancient are I
hate people that try to interpret art and tell me
what the artist was thinking. That's what I can't stand
This is the best of out kick the coverage with
Clay Travis on Fox Sports Radio. This time of year
is so addictive if you are a college football fan,
because it's the crazy coaching carousel, the crazy season. When
it comes to the rumors that are out there and
(00:21):
my phone is constantly blowing up, I'm texting with everybody, Asians,
media members, coaches. What are you hearing? Who's gonna go where?
It's as if suddenly everybody is in the c I
a trying to figure out how to read all of
the different signs and make sense of them. Florida Gators
(00:43):
have an open job, Chip Kelly Scott Frost, who's gonna
be there? Nebraska is gonna open up. Arkansas fires their
athletic director, meaning that they're gonna have to probably hire
an a d and a new coach. What are the
Razorbacks gonna do? Tennessee is after John on Gruden in
hot pursuit. I have legitimate people who I trust that
(01:06):
believe that John Gruden is gonna be the next coach
at the University of Tennessee, such that they've even got
me convinced. There's all sorts of wild conspiracy theories out there.
Arkansas fans think that they're gonna hire Gus miles on
from Auburn, UH Texas A and M supposedly even though
they still have a head coach who could finish eight
and four or five and three in the SEC, supposedly
(01:29):
making a full on run at Jimbo Fisher from Florida State,
Dan Mullen at Mississippi State, supposedly the bell of the ball.
Several different places interested in him. Offshore gambling odds are moving.
It is the craziest time of year. All while this
is taking place in college football, the playoffs t is
(01:50):
set up and and inching closer and closer. Who knows
what exactly is gonna happen, But I can't stop. I
won't stop. I am addicted to the coaching, cares cell
and everything that happens. Soon, the first domino will fall,
which will set off an amazing reaction across the universe
of college football, because, unlike in the NFL, where people
(02:11):
have to actually be held to their contracts, there is
perpetual coaching free agency in college football. That is, it
doesn't matter if you have a contract. If somebody offers
you more money, you can break it. You can go
from coaching Alabama one day to Auburn the next. It
is flat out insanity. Now. I don't know what's gonna
(02:33):
end up happening, but I do know that this time
of year doesn't get any better than this at all.
Um On top of that, several fascinating stories that are
breaking in the NFL. Nathan Peterman is in as your
quarterback with the Buffalo Bills. I don't really remember a
time before where a five and four team that would
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theoretically have the last spot in the playoffs right now
just effectively turns the page and says, you know what,
we're not good enough to really be a playoff team.
Let's figure out if Nathan Peterman is any good because
we have no faith anymore in Tyrod Taylor. Now I
hate to be the guy who said I told you so,
but I have been telling you for a while now
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that Tyrod Taylor was not the answer. That they couldn't
win a game in the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. And
there have been doubters out there who've been telling me
I was crazy. The Bills had gotten up to five
and two, guess what they've gotten whipped the last two
weeks by the Jets, and then at home the destruction
that they got from the Saints. I think it was
a sobering wake up experience for everybody, and they said,
wait a minute, we're not gonna be anything better than
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eight and eight with Tyrod Taylor. We need to go
ahead and figure out what the future of this franchise
is gonna be. Speaking of the future of the franchise,
I believe Marcus Mariota is the future of the franchise.
Tonight on Thursday Night Football, We've got a really fascinating
game going on between the Titans and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
A lot of you out there right now are not
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even aware that the Titans are six and three, and that, frankly,
if Marcus Mariota had not gotten hurt, they'd probably be
seven and two and tied with the Patriots and the
Steelers for the best record in the a f C.
So are the Titans for real or are they a
pretend team. We're gonna talk with Mike Keith. He's the
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voice of the Titans. He's gonna be up in Pittsburgh
tonight calling that game and what should be a big
Thursday night football game as we try and figure out
what's up with the Steelers who played at the level
of competition every week, and what's up with the Titans.
Are they good enough to go on the road and
win against what would be the number one overall seed
in the a f C, the Pittsburgh Steelers. If you
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guys have not watched Marcus Mario to play very much,
do you agree with me that he is a real
the real deal just twenty four years old. And he
just turned twenty four years old. Uh. He is now
in his third year with the Titans, and the team
has been built around him in a way that I
still have no idea exactly what the result of this
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season are gonna be, But I think that the Titans
still have an incredibly high ceiling. That is, they haven't
jelled in any way, they haven't necessarily played great, but
they found a way to win six games. They've got
a quarterback in Steve in Steve McNair in Marcus Mariota
who reminds me a little bit of Steve McNair in
that they the Titans have enough confidence in him that
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they believe if he gets the ball late in the game,
he's gonna drive down the field. And score and give
them an opportunity to win in every game that they
are in. And we've seen that recently, the Titans scoring
with about thirty six seconds to go against uh, the
Cincinnati Bengals. So the Titans seemed to be fairly healthy,
the Steelers seem to be fairly healthy. I know Thursday
(05:43):
night football comes in for a lot of criticism, but
I think we've got a really big Thursday night football
game that a lot of you are going to enjoy,
and that I myself, I'm certainly gonna enjoy so much
so that we're planning here in the house because we've
got young kids who are also football fans. We got
naptime going on in the Travis household. So this afternoon,
as soon as the boys get home from school, if
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they want to stay up and watch the whole game,
because it won't be over till eleven thirty Eastern, they
have to take a nap. Whole family might have to
take a nap to be able to stay up because
obviously I'm watching the whole thing and then getting up
like I usually do for Friday Morning show, even after
not very much sleep. Another fascinating a little bit of
news for you, guys. I've been having a lot of
conversations with people who are involved in the NFL and
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that we all know that the ratings are down for
the NFL and that a lot fewer people are watching,
and much of the discussion has centered on the protest.
I'm gonna talk to you more about this, But people
I'm talking to have given me four reasons why NFL
ratings are down, and I think those four reading rating
reasons are fascinating. I'm going to write about this today
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on my website, OutKick dot I'll kick the coverage OutKick
dot com. You can check it out. I think if
you're an NFL fan, you're gonna want to read this article.
But there are four big buckets, four prongs as to
why ratings are down so substantially over the last two years.
According to the people that I have been talking to.
Prong one and the most important, is the decline of
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the one o'clock eastern kickoff window. There are fewer and
fewer games that kick off at one o'clock Eastern, meaning
that the overall quality of the game there is not
what it used to be. Now, if you're old enough
in my age, you remember over time. That one o'clock
Eastern twelve o'clock Central game, specially for everybody who is
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in the Eastern or the Central time zones, is the quintessential.
On Sunday, you wake up, you go to church, and
then you come home and you sit down in front
of the television and you flip it on and the
NFL is playing. I can't tell you the number of
times as a kid that I would go to church.
I think that's probably still the foundational move of the
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vast majority of you who listened to this Uh. Listen
to this show. Uh if you're especially if you're in
the heartland of the country, on Sunday, you would wake up,
you would go to church, go to Sunday school, go
here the pastor speak, and then you go get lunch,
and you get home and you put on the television
and the NFL is kicked off and you watch the NFL.
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A lot of you would follow that routine for a
long time. Well, the people I'm talking to are saying
that the lack of strong games at one o'clock Eastern
are becoming a drag on the NFL's over rating, overall
ratings and the conversations I was having I'm thinking about
that that certainly is gonna apply for me this coming Sunday,
because I'm more interested in watching the Titans and the
(08:37):
Steelers game. But I'm watching that on Thursday. So I
already told my wife, who, look, I spend a lot
of time watching football, and I try when I can
to uh to to do things with my family on
the weekend that are something other than watching football. So
already told my wife, Hey, the Titans play on Thursday night.
I don't need to be up and watching every game
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on Sunday this week. Let's go out and do something
on what it should be a pretty good Sunday weather,
because I'll be spending all day Saturday watching college football.
And so the number one reason why the NFL ratings
are declining, I am told, is because of the decline
of that one o'clock Eastern game. Now that may surprise
some of you, but I I think when you really
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kind of break it down, it's an intriguing perspective to
be in that that one o'clock Eastern game is not
necessarily the same as it used to be when I
was a kid, or even as the years have progressed,
they have slowly taken away games from that one o'clock
eastern window Sunday Night Football on NBC Thursday Night Football.
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Now you got Monday Night Football, three different windows where
there's only one game on, and those are the best games,
and a lot of them would have otherwise been one
o'clock eastern games two and I think, uh. And an
additional kind of fascinating part of why the ratings are down,
I am told, is l A. Think about l A,
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think about the city of Los Angeles. Our guys out there,
Danny g and Justin can swear to this. And I
know because I used to spend a lot of time
in l A on Sundays. Before you got the Chargers
and before you got the uh, the the Rams, you
got the best game every weekend, and so if the
Cowboys were really good, that got popped into l A.
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Ratings are down in l A by a couple of
tents of ratings points, which makes a big deal in
the overall revenue. Ratings are down because of why because
people aren't watching the Rams and the Chargers as much
as they were the best teams otherwise, whether it's the Raiders,
whether it's the Cowboys, people in l A over the
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last twenty years, got used to always getting the best game,
and Danny g and Justin you guys can speak to this.
Now you guys don't get the best game anymore, and
so as a result, it can be pretty frustrating. I
would imagine you guys speak to this better than anybody
to put on your put on your television, and it
might not be anywhere near as good of a game
as you would have gotten before the NFL actually expanded
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to Los Angeles. Yeah, it was almost like we had
three primetime games every Sunday, because we had the really
great Fox game and and CBS game, and then we
had the Sunday night game on NBC. So it went
from that to now the Chargers. Thank good Thank goodness
that the Rams are much improved, because at least they're
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exciting to watch right now. Yeah, look, I mean and
the Rams. I mean that's gonna be the savior in
the years ahead, is that people will get more invested
in the local team. But right now, you've got a
twenty year history of people not necessarily wanting to watch
the Rams or to watch the Chargers, instead wanting whatever
teams they've gotten used to, and that's kind of vanished,
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and so the other one, uh in in the in
terms of there's four buckets here, I'm told that are
that are costing the NFL. The other one here is
bad football. And you know it's funny when I put
up the poll and I say, why are you guys
watching or not watching the NFL? Bad football is the
number one result. And the quality of the game has
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gone down to a large extent, I think because the
quality of quarterback play continues to decline, and so you
end up with games like Josh McCown against Ryan Fitzpatrick. Right.
I mean, if there's not a good quarterback, it's a
different caliber of game. For instance, tonight's game Thursday Night Football,
I think Marcus Mariota against Ben Roethlisberger is gonna be
(12:29):
fantastic because you have two really good quarterback playing. Now.
Could one of those quarterbacks have a bad game, yes,
But when you have two quarterbacks with masters of the
overall flow of the game, it makes a difference. The
fourth bucket here, and we're gonna talk, by the way,
to Mike Keith, the voice of the Titans. I'm gonna
talk to him an hour to an hour three. We'll
talk with Todd Ferman, my guy out in the desert.
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I always try to give you guys a road map
because so many of you are downloading the podcast now,
I want to let you know what you got coming ahead.
So thanks to the millions of you out there that
are downloading the podcast every month. Um. The other thing
I am told is obviously the protest. Now, the protest
has gotten all the attention, but when I was talking
to people associated with the NFL, the decimation of the
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one o'clock Eastern hour Bad Football the West Coast in particular,
l A, the ratings declining despite the fact that there
are teams there now, and the protest. All four of
those things this is the culminating point here. All four
of those factors have conspired to drive down NFL ratings,
and guys, I am told that Fox, CBS, ESPN, and NBC,
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all four of them collectively, and this is gonna be
kind of a jaw dropping moment for you. All four
of them collectively are losing hundreds of millions of dollars
because of the decline in ratings this year up to
I am told, five hundred million dollars in law revenue
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this year because of the decline in NFL ratings. So
for people out there who are like, oh, this is
no big deal, people are overreacting. Those four factors are
what I am told smart people out there involved in
the NFL are pointing to as to why ratings are down.
But the overall impact and I'm gonna write about this
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and I haven't heard hardly anybody really put a dollar
figure on this. I'm told this for sure into the
hundreds of millions of dollars and potentially could approach five
hundred million dollars in lost revenue for CBS, Fox, NBC,
and ESPN, Slash ABC. That is like, whoa. I mean,
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I think a lot of you are here in that
number right now. And it's kind of a record scratch moment,
nearly half a billion dollars in lost revenue based on
the decline in ratings. So what's the solution. How can
the NFL get back? It's groove. I'm gonna talk about
that a little bit with you within the context of what, again,
I think is an interesting Thursday night football game. There's
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a lot of debate going on right now about whether
Roger Goodell deserves to return as NFL commissioner, the fight
with Jerry Jones has gotten worse. I'm gonna tell you
about some of those details, but I also want you
to know that one reason there's such a fight going
on is because of what I just laid out. There
are a lot of league partners in the television universe,
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a lot in the advertising universe. Remember I'm just talking
about the television ratings universe that are very nervous about
what's going on with the NFL ratings and very desirous
of it to get fixed, and get fixed in a hurry.
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Donald Trump has tweeted about the u c l A
Basketball players in the last fifteen minutes. Donald Trump one
of the only people who's up as early as we are,
so all over the country. My Twitter feed is usually
pretty silent for the first hour of the show in
terms of people that I follow tweeting. Donald Trump, President
of the United States, says to the three u c
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l A Basketball players, I say you're welcome. Go out
and give a big thank you to President z Uh
ying Ping and and I'm sure I just just absolutely
murdered that name. Uh z uh. One of you guys
can figure out how I'm supposed to be pronouncing this
President z Yen Ping of China, who made your release possible,
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and have a great life. All caps, be careful, there
are many pitfalls on the long and winding road of life.
Donald Trump with a message and a uh, I'm gonna
retweet that so you can go find it. But Donald
Trump weighing in on the U c l A men's
basketball team who did thank him for his work to
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get them released. We spent a lot of time talking
about that yesterday, how the sports media did not cover
Donald Trump's work and getting these guys covered, and then
they ended up covering him saying that he wanted them
to say thanks. So this is actually about his magnanimous
of a of a tweet, as you'll see from the
President again, Donald Trump to the three U c l.
A basketball players, I say, you're welcome. Go out and
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give a big thank you to President. We did you
guys figure out how to pronounce this ge? And and
then how about the second one? Anybody know anybody? Z
z Yen Ping of China, who made uh your release possible.
Have a great life. Be careful. There are many pitfalls
on the long and winding road of life that is
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Donald Trump. Now, I told you that I was gonna
tell you what I am hearing about these college football jobs.
I started off the show saying, I can't sleep at
night because my phone is blowing up. Everybody is thrilled
to be discussing all of this. I know that John
Gruden has reached out to multiple people about being on
his staff at the University of Tennessee. So John Gruden
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is sincerely considering taking the University of Tennessee head coaching
job and leaving Monday Night football. I think that John
Gruden is not angling to make more money from Monday
Night Football. I think John Gruden will be on a
sideline coaching in eighteen somewhere, could be in the NFL,
could be at the University of Tennessee. And for people
out there who say why would he go to University
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of Tennessee, well he uh. He's a former graduate assistant there.
He met his wife, who was a former University of
Tennessee cheerleader. His son is currently enrolled at the university.
His wife's family is all from the Knoxville area in
East Tennessee. So what I have been told is if
John Gruden takes that job, he will bring one of
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his sons, who is a strength coach, to work on
his staff at Tennessee. His wife will be ecstatic because
she will be living back close to her family. So
if John Gruden is going to be working twenty hours
a week, then she's got a support structure around her
to allow her to have a good life. If you
know anything, a body happy if mama ain't happy, well,
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this would theoretically allow her to be close to her family,
everybody back in the same city. Her son is enrolled
at the University of Tennessee. Uh, she would have another
son who's working on the coaching staff, hurts. Her husband
would be the head coach of Tennessee. And there is
something to John Gruden about the college game that he
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understands would help him to be kind of, from a
resume perspective, more of a legend. I've been making this argument,
and I think it's totally true. You don't become a
coaching legend in the NFL. In the last twenty five years.
The only legendary coach in the NFL is Bill Belichick.
Everybody else is totally playing second fiddle to their quarterback.
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You become a legend in the NFL by being a
great quarterback. That's it. You don't become a legend by
becoming a by becoming a coach in the NFL. In college,
you become a legend as a coach. And so John
Gruden has the opportunity potentially to go back to the
University of Tennessee. I am hearing several other interesting things
about open jobs. I think that Florida is gonna hire
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Chip Kelly. I think that that is going to happen
based on the people I am talking to. I don't
think it's a smoke screen. I think that Nebraska is
likely to be able to make a play and potentially
get Scott Frost depending on how all of this shakes out.
And and this is pretty intriguing. I think Texas A
and M is gonna get Jimbo Fisher from Florida State,
which would then open up the Florida State job as well,
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which would really set the coaching dominoes all moving. Finally,
Arkansas fired their athletic director. They're gonna have to hire
a new a d and a new coach. A couple
of thoughts here, One, can you imagine if Arkansas went
and hired Tom Jurich, the fired athletic director from Louisville,
and he brought Bobby Petrino back to the Razorbacks. First
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of all, that is a crazy idea, but I think
there's probably a lot of Arkansas people who would say,
you know what, I'd take back Bobby Petrino. Secondly, what
about this as an intriguing play that I am hearing
a lot of Arkansas people are trying to make happen.
You know who? They want? Gus miles On the head
coach of Auburn. Now, I don't think the timing is
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likely to work out if Auburn beats Alabama in the
final in the Iron Bowl. But if Auburn loses to
Alabama in two weeks, could Arkansas steal away Gus miles On,
who is from the Fayetteville area Springfield, Arkansas. Could they
steal away Auburn's head coach because Gus Malson has not
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felt like he's that wanted at Auburn and signed him
to a massive deal to bring him to Arkansas. That
my friends. Is why it's crazy right now in the
college coaching carousel. Lots of different drama and potential potential
outcomes there now. Ironically, if Auburn beats Alabama and advances
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to the SEC Idle Game and wins, certainly that would
not be a viable option. But if Auburn loses to Alabama,
that would be a really intriguing move. Put that on
your radar screen as a potential wild story. Be sure
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Week eleven of the NFL kicks off tonight Thursday Night
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Football the six and three Tennessee Titans traveling to Pittsburgh
to take on the seven into Pittsburgh Steelers. Got Mike
Keith with us now. He's the voice of the Tennessee Titans.
Good friend of mine, known him for years, and Mike,
the first question I'm gonna ask you is are the
Titans any good? I think they are. I think this
is a pretty good football team. But I think Clay
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what jumps out to me about the Titans in watching
them is I think they're ever evolving. I don't believe
this football team has gotten anywhere near as good as
it can be, and the performance against Cincinnati on Sunday
was a pretty good illustration of that. They've left fourteen
points out there that they very could have easily scored.
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They had another mistake where they could have down the
ball at the one yard line. And no NFL team
is going to be perfect, and the other teams are
certainly trying to make things hard. But this team still
has not completely jelled and I thought it would take
them a while to sort of gain their full form,
and that seems to be the case. But what they
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do have is they do have a lot more playmakers
than they've had in years. And the other part to
Clay is they have a real confidence in themselves. They
have a real belief in themselves and because of that,
they think they're good. And I don't mean that in
a cocky way. I mean that in a confidence standpoint,
and when you have that, which the Titans haven't had
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in years, it makes a real difference as you get
into November and head towards December, hopefully right in the
middle of the playoff race. So they are right in
the middle of the playoff race, right now, in fact,
the overall number four seed in the a f C,
and they're playing against the team that would be the
number one overall seed, almost potentially a playoff preview game.
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How big and how important is the way that they perform,
not just whether they win or lose, but the way
that they perform in this game in the grand scheme
of things for this season. I think you said it,
the way that they perform, because the next two weeks,
we could argue are more important for the Titans because
they play at Indianapolis and they've never won at Lucas
Oil Stadium, and then they have Houston at home, a
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team that beat them by forty three points in Week four.
So those two games in the grand scheme of things
from a strategical standpoint, are probably bigger. But going down
on this national stage tonight here in Pittsburgh, going toe
to toe with a team like the Steelers, a team
that very much appears to be back to where the
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Steelers want to be after they have retooled over the
last couple of seasons, I think it's a big deal. Certainly,
you want to win, but I think you want to
leave here having gotten the attention of everybody that you
belong in games like this, and that if we see
a team like the Titans in a game like this
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in January, that they can sort of stand up to it,
that they're ready to take that next step. You'd very
much like to win, but it's hard to win in
Pittsburgh at Hines Field in primetime. Marcus Mariota is twenty
four years old. I believe he just turned twenty four,
if I'm not mistaken. He is in his third year
in the NFL. He is six and two this year
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as a starter. A lot of times guys become known
based on how they perform in these major national window
games where everybody across the league and across the country
is watching. How good, in your opinion is Marcus Mariotta?
How big is this game for him as the second
half of his third year gets under way and he's
now out there on the national stage or The key
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for Marcus is it's big. You know, these are big
sit auations, but he's been in so many of them.
You know, back to Oregon, he got used to the
to the spotlight, winning the Heisman Trophy. I don't think
any of this makes him nervous. We all want to
see him on Thursday night primetime football here in Pittsburgh.
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We all know what this means, and he gets it,
but it doesn't get to him and where I think
he is too. It's funny statistically, he was a lot
further along this time last year than he is this season.
Now he's played much better defenses to this point. That's
sort of added into the fact that he hasn't piled
up big numbers, and yet there are more people nationally
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who perceive him as taking the next step because he's
helping get the Titans Monday night football. He got him
home with a big fourth quarter, gotta win at Cleveland
and overtime held off Baltimore with a drive that they
absolutely had had to have, come back against Cincinnati and
score with thirty six seconds to go. Oftentimes, perception is
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reality in terms of how we view quarterbacks. I saw
it happen. You saw it happen with Steve McNair in
the two thousand to season and it led him to
an m v P year in two thousand three. I
think Mariota is taking that jump in the eyes of people,
and I think he has a chance to make even
more of a jump against the Steelers here tonight. You
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said you believe the Titans are a good football team.
I have watched them play every game. They're six and three.
There's their record ru to reflect that they're a good
football team, but they've been very erratic. What's the ceiling
for this team? I think the ceiling is way up there.
I don't think they're anywhere close to what they have
a chance to be. They added parts in this offseason
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that I felt like would make them better. I thought
the secondary, which they almost completely turned over through the
draft in free agency, I think we can see that
it's better. The pass rush has not been quite what
we hoped it would be, but I think it can
get better down the stretch. I think you could see
a Brian a rack Po or a Derek Morgan have
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an Adrian Claybourne type game. Maybe not an Adrian Clayburn,
but I think you could see some explosion there that
we haven't seen. Offensively, the thing that really jumps out
to me is you've got you've got Decker, and you've
got Davis, and you've got Smith the tight end, and
you've got Taylor the wide receiver. All these new parts,
and because of injuries and other things that have sort
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of gone on when Decker was signed, for example, they
haven't been together a whole lot, and just now this
group is starting to practice together and in the last
two weeks six trips inside the red zone on offense,
six touchdowns after being thirty first in the league after
seven games, we knew they were better than that Clay
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and now they're starting to show it. So I don't
I don't know if I want to say the roof
is the ceiling, but uh and I that's a node
to my son who goes to North Carolina, by the way,
But I do believe that this ball club has the
ability to to get a lot better as they go.
When we see it all this year, I don't know,
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you know, I think that's what everybody hopes for. But
I think we see the parts and the strategy and
the style are in place for the Titans to be
a team that we're talking about for the next few years.
We're talking to Mike Keith. He's the voice of the Titans,
one new edition that I think the nation is going
to learn about because I've been kind of blown away
by how much better he's gotten weeks a week, and
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I watched him play a lot at usc Adory Jackson.
I mean, they are bringing him in to work on
the offensive side of the ball, and he's explosive every
time he touches the ball there, so wouldn't surprise me
if they've got a wrinkle or two for Pittsburgh where
he's in on the offensive side of the ball. He
has returned punts very successfully, in fact, had two called
back for for uh for kind of borderline blocks in
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the back that you really didn't need to be able
to ex float and score. And defensively as a starting corner,
he made a lot of really big plays against the
Bengals last weekend. What have you seen for him? And
is he ready to kind of become a guy that
people in the NFL need to be paying attention to.
He doesn't have a pick yet, and so it's about
time for that. And I think if the Titans are
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gonna win tonight, I think there's a very good chance
they needed defensive touchdown. I think that it's gonna be
one of those games where you know it's not gonna
be forty one to thirty eight, so you know it
may be a dory time in that area. If you
go back and look at the draft though, just to
touch on him specifically, Clay, the Titans are picking at
number eighteen. They've taken Corey Davis at number five, They're
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picking at number eight team with their second first round pick.
It seems like they're gonna go corner there. They have
a lot of good choices and and guys who have
turned out to be good players in the league. But
they quickly, you know, sort of rushed the card up
there to get a Dory Jackson based on the fact
that they felt like he would be very good in
this defense and that he would give them the overall
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versatility that they needed. And his play, as you said,
and I think you put it well, his play is
really expanded since he got here. But he's kind of
the perfect fit for what Dick Lebow wants out of
him on defense. And he's also the perfect fit for
what John Robinson wants out of a Titan. And John
the general manager, wants a lot of versatility in his roster.
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He wants a lot of different options. So there were
some people who said, oh, a, Dore's not big enough,
or I don't know if he's exactly this style of player,
but I think John Robinson has already identified what he
wants in a Titan, and that doesn't mean every pick
that the Titans make is gonna be as good as
a Dori Jackson. But I think in terms of his
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style of play, his versatility, and his personality, uh as
we like to say in uh in Tennessee, he ain't scared. Um.
Dori Jackson is never scared. He gives up a completion,
he's coming right back. And that mindset is very hard
to find in the young corner. And he certainly has
that big game tonight obviously between the Titans and the Steelers.
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But also you have worked on the college side of
the equation as well. And one of the interesting things
I think about the NFL versus college is effectively in
the NFL now, the people who become legends are quarterbacks.
We talked about Marcus Mariota, he'll be going up against
Ben Roethlisberger. There are a lot of legendary quarterbacks just
left the league. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees is
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having a resurgence this year, may challenge for his second
Super Bowl. Brett Farvev Like I can go through a
list of long time last twenty years, big time legendary quarterbacks.
Where college football is different in many respects is I
think it's the coaches who become legends rather than Belichick
in the last twenty five years. I don't know that
I can really point to anybody in the NFL. Obviously,
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back in the day Bill Walsh, du Shula, you can
say Lombardi, you can go through a whole list of
guys who became legends back in the day of nf
fell coaching. But now it's a quarterbacks league. College is
a coaching league. You worked on the college side. Never
in the NFL do we have the same kind of
drama associated with who's going to be the next coach
in the NFL like we do in college. What in
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the world. Having said all that, you worked at the
University of Tennessee for a while, who do you think
Tennessee ends up with as the coach before all of
a sudden done wow, putting on the spot. Yeah, that's
a tough one. Um, It's it's really tough from the
standpoint that they have to define exactly where they go
after Butch Jones, they have to define what what is
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that fit that is next? I mean Butch Jones came
in and and he had to do a lot of salesmanship.
You know, that was a big part of the job.
I think they're gonna go more veteran coach. I think
they're gonna go less of an up and comer and
more somebody who has some skins on the wall, because
I think the feeling is with that person taking what
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they have right now, which is better than what it's
Jones found, and then adding to it, not only in
terms of player talent, but adding to it in terms
of coaching staff and acumen. Just trying to take this
program up. I think you're you're looking to build on that.
That's the next move, and you know there are there
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are a lot of great choices out there. I mean,
the Tennessee fans keep talking about Dan Mullen a great deal.
Dan Mullen has had a tremendous amount of success at
Mississippi State, and he knows the conference. I think having
somebody who knows the conference makes a ton of sense.
I don't think it's necessary, uh, in terms of that,
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In terms of that that you have to have that
a guy like Dave Ran at or at NC State
is a is a guy that I think could be
a good choice for a place like Tennessee, who has
had success at Northern Illinois at NC State. Mike, Ultimately,
what do you think happens tonight? All right? At you
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into college football? Now, I'm gonna reel you back into
the big game going on tonight we go Levin's premier contest,
the Titans against the Steelers. What do you think viewers
will see at the end of the game. I think
they're gonna see either Ben Roethlisberger or Marcus Mariota with
a drive to win the game at the end. You know,
I don't know if it's the Steelers coming from behind
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or the Titans coming from behind, but I think that's
the kind of game we get out of tonight because
I think about these two teams. You know, sometimes these
Thursday night matchups aren't very good because the teams aren't
very well formed or they've had a major injury that
impacts them dramatically. Play. Both of these teams are remarkably
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healthy coming into you know, what amounts to a really
huge Thursday night game for both of them. I think
it comes right down to the end. I think it's
very tight, and I think whomever wins this game walks
away looking at the other team and saying, we could
see you again in January. I really do believe it's
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a heavyweight battle tonight. Outstanding stuff, Mike Keith. A lot
of people will be listening, will certainly be watching. Can't
wait to see what happens. Appreciate you getting up early
with us on this Thursday. Enjoy the game tonight. It
could be a lot of fun to keep me Clay,
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and within the I Heart Radio app. Nick Saban was
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in his press conference pray for Mercer, I believe it's
who they play against, and he decided to lead off
his press conference talking about his opinion on blue jeans.
Really this happened, I guess I just wanted to know
how we got here. Not to offend anybody out there,
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but I just walked by some jeans, wore out jeans,
holes in them, all cut up. I just remember when
I was a kid in West Virginia, I was just
shamed to go to school because my jeans were war out,
only because we didn't have any better. Now they buy
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him that way. I just can't forget. How do we
get here? Nick's pray for Mercer. You know, when it's
a couple of days before a game and Nick Saban's
leading off his his talk about about blue jeans, it's
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probably a really good day at practice. Maybe be a
little bit nervous for Auburn too. Nick Saban, stand up comic,
takes the mic and decides to do some material on
people wearing ripped up blue jeans. There is some truth
to that, people paying a lot of money for ripped
up blue jeans. You see, people paid this. Leonardo da Vincio,
Leonardo da Vincio, Leonardo da Vinci. I believe it was right.
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Wasn't it a Da Vinci that that sold for four
dred and fifty million dollars last night? Did you guys
see that story? Anybody have any class or character on
this show other than me? Any of you. I don't care.
You just step out of I don't like, I don't
I don't like. Well, look I'm looking it up right now,
but you don't. You act like that's some story you
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cared about. I think it's a big deal that a
painting sold for as much as a professional sports team
would sell for because I've been making the analogy for
a long time that basically, professional sports franchises are paintings
for rich guys. Rich guys out there. The reason why
painting sell for so much money is because rich guys
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can hang them on their wall and say, hey, I
spent four hundred and fifty million dollars for this, And
a lot of people haven't realized that about pro sports franchises.
They're not being bought for the money they're gonna be making.
They're being bought so that they can prove that they
can afford them. Like everybody's like, oh my god, I
can't believe Steve Bamber spent two billion dollars for the Clippers. Well,
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the reason why he spent two billion dollars for the
Clippers was because he could could spend two billion dollars
for the Clippers for the same reason that some guy
just spent four hundred and fifty million dollars. I believe
it's a DaVinci. I'm sorry for having Why did this
guy stay anonymous? I don't know. I don't know why
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you stay anonymous. A lot of times they stay anonymous
because the guy who's actually buying isn't the one who's
gonna buy it. Does that make sense, Like they have
a proxy who's doing the bidding. Yeah, like a personal shot,
really high end personal shopper. Obviously, if you're bidding four
hundred and fifty million dollars on something, I mean, that
is what I believe that's more than a lot of uh.
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And I know the numbers have gone up as precipitously
in the last couple of years in the NBA because
ESPN has gone bankrupt giving them the money that they
did for their television contract. But this is UH. But
even before that new television contract, I think you could
buy an NBA franchise for four hundred and fifty million dollars.
Like four years ago, I think you could buy an
NBA I think there were NBA teams going for less
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than five hundred million dollars. So you could buy an
NBA franchise, or you could buy this pain What is
the Da Vinci painting that's sold for four Savior of
the World. It's Christ. Yeah, it's the only Da Vinci
painting that is not in any museum. It's amazing. Actually,
The story behind this painting is pretty incredible. The first
it was originally part of Charles the first Royal Collection.
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This is amazing, the King of England. It was sold
for It was sold for just forty five pounds in
the nineteen fifties as it was mistaken for a copy.
Then they realized it was the real thing, and of
course it's sold. It's called the Salvatur Munday a Savior
of the World as as it was translated. So yeah,
forty five pounds in the fifties to four hundred and
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fifty point three million dollars last night. That's unbelievable. So
somebody bought this painting for forty five pounds, which is
roughly like what like sixty bucks right now, pretty much
seventy bucks something like that. Um, and it's sold for
four hundred and fifty million. It's the most expensive painting
in the history of the world. Yes, I mean that
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is an unblood Like where do you even put a four?
I'm assuming the guy will have to get on loan somewhere, right,
because I'd be can you imagine, like I get nervous
just thinking about like the reason I don't have expensive
sunglasses or an expensive watch, or like, there's nothing that
I carry around with me that has any value other
than my brain. The only thing in my body that
has value is my brain. But I don't I'm not
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like a possession guy, right, Like my wife's got a
couple of nice rings, some nice jewelry. I don't own
anything of any value right other than my house. Like,
there's nothing that I can carry that people will be like, oh,
that guy's got money. So I don't have a watch.
I don't do like an expensive sunglasses. I don't have
expensive clothes, none of that stuff. All right, That's just
I'm not that interested in it. But partly that's because
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if I spent Like, what's the most you guys have
ever spent for a pair of sunglasses? Jays? I bet
you don't even wear sunglasses, Jason Martin, I even I'm
buying to you, what's the most you've ever What's the
most you've ever spent for sunglasses? It was this year
because its first time I've been able to wear them
because I got contacts this year. So about any books
and that will be the most I would ever spend.
What about you guys, I have a pair at home
(42:05):
that costs three D see. I mean just never hearing
that makes me nervous because I lose every pair of
sunglasses that I have, so I wear like free sunglasses
everywhere I go because then if I lose them, I
don't feel bad. And I just can't even imagine. If
you had a painting worth four hundred and fifty million dollars,
where do you keep it? I'd be too afraid to
(42:26):
own it to a museum, I think, I think, I
think that's what I think. That's what would happen. It's
the same thing. It's like you were asking why you'd
want to stay anonymous, That's why I'd want to stay anonymous,
quite frankly, like, if you want to own it's because
you obviously have some kind of a passion for it,
and there's a small select group of people I guess
that might be able to know. But it's like if
you win the lottery, I don't know the great thing
(42:46):
that comes from everyone knowing that you win the lottery,
Like I would kind of like to stay in the background.
Nobody needs to know those kind of affairs on that
level with me, if you're that rich, you're probably already
powerful enough that you don't need to spread around that
you own the Salvatur Monday at four fifty million dollars
what they thought it was gonna go. I I actually
read about that, Like, I'm not not like you Jason
(43:07):
Martin who just says I don't like art. My thing
is I don't Contemporary art to me is a total sham.
Like I think that everybody out there who believes that
they can tell the difference between what a kid did
with finger paint versus what something that's gonna sell for
a million dollars, I think you're full of crap. I
think that in general, there is a total sham when
it comes to contemporary art. But the old school art
(43:29):
that you stand in front of and you can actually
tell what's going on there, Like I don't get the
deal with like, oh, here's three little dabs of paint.
Here's like a random like swoosh, Like I don't understand
any of that stuff. But the actual things that reflect
you know that to reflect something you can see. Um,
I am kind of fascinated. I think this went for
three times as much as they were forecasting. They knew
it was gonna be expensive, but it was started at
(43:51):
it started to two hundred million dollar mark. Then telephone
bidders started pushing it up two million dollars at a time,
and I spoke wrong. I don't hate ancient are I
hate people that try to interpret art and tell me
what the artist was thinking. That's what I can't stand
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