May 26, 2025 • 46 mins
Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington are in for Dan Patrick, reacting to the Knicks win in Game 3, but get ready for the Pacers to bounce back big time. The NFL continues to widen the gap with other sports, cementing the future of Holiday takeovers. Saquon Barkley calls out “soft” teams for voting to ban the tush-push.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's a Memorial Day out there.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I hope people acknowledge what it's actually about. The barbecues,
all that stuff is fun, but what it's actually about
and what those lost souls meant to our country and
all that. Hope we take time to appreciate that. We
are going to take time to first acknowledge that apparently
the New York Knicks are not ready to just lay
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down and give up here, LaVar Arrington. They're not ready.
They have now made this a series for now, and
they come back pull off a comeback win of their own.
Allah what the Indian Indiana Pacers did to them in
Game one. In Game two, and the Knicks get it
done on the road in Indiana somehow, some way and
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bring this series.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
To two to one in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Being the son of a Vet that almost lost his
life in Vietnam, always to make sure I take my time,
especially being on air on Memorial Day, to make sure
I do honor and remember our brave men and women
who pay the ultimate price and made the ultimate sacrifice
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for our freedom. So I just want to say I'm
so appreciative and I'm so happy and proud to be
the son of a military VET, proud to be a
part of generations of military service members who have taken
pride and representing our country and fighting for our freedom.
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So I would be remiss if if I didn't say
that quickly. Thank you to all the memories of those
who live in our hearts in our minds that gave
us the right and the opportunity to have these freedoms
just to talk on the radio and.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
To talk sports. So thank you to all of you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Enjoy your day, but just remember to remember those that
not only are are gone and have given their lives
for our country, but those who are still here because
they well, they need our attention and they need our
love more than anyone. So make sure you hug a
vet today, make sure you show them some love, and uh,
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enjoy your Memorial Day. Uh. And it was not a
Memorial Day for the New York Knicks. So so to
get to your point, you finally saw a team that
had to to, I guess, feel the pressure of the
series coming to a unceremonials unceremonious end. It did not
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look like it was going to be a good series.
It looked to be the same yesterday's game as the
Indiana Indiana Pacers. Uh took took the lead and was
up quite a few I believe it was a twenty
point deficit that the New York Knicks erased. Uh. I'll
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say this, Indiana did it to them. You know, New
York was up. New York had the opportunity to win
the game, and they choked on it. And and now
you saw the Indiana Pacers proverbial choking take place. And
yesterday's game, they had a game. This was an opportunity
being up by the amount they were in by to
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basically put maybe put the stamp on it, you know,
put put the toe toe tag on the next the
Knicks fought back. Karl Anthony Towns looked like two different
people in the game. Jonas first half, it was like,
come on, what are you doing? Probably need to bench him,
Probably need to just leave him there and just see
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what's going to happen. And then in the second half
Cat fueled them. And it only goes to serve the purpose.
What the conversations have been since they made the trades
of of you know what, Randall going to Minnesota and
and Towns coming to the Knicks is that Karl Anthony
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Towns has to play like an all star if this
team is to have a chance to win this series
and to have it remotely any chance of not being
a sacrificial lamb in the next in the next series.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So Carl Anthony Towns, as you mentioned, he had the
monster fourth quarter which fueled to comeback for the Knicks,
and he spoke afterwards about what went into his performance.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
That's opportunity to utilize all those hours I'll put into
the gym, and the game wasn't looking great for me
as well, but for all of us, and I just
wanted to do whatever it takes to help put us
in a position to win.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
And like I said, it's it's a testament to my teammates,
you know, having trusted me and giving me, you know,
putting me in spots where I could see seed and
and utilize my talent. So that's just testing, you know.
Shout out to the guys in the locker room. You know,
this is a great team win. But we got we know,
we gotta be better than we were tonight if we
expect to find a way to get another win.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, I mean so he has to put himself in
better situations to have better games earlier. Yeah, how you
feel about it, he has to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's I mean, this is a wonderful moment for for
the Nicks and for that fan base. This is great
and and now it makes sense why they celebrated the
way that they did after they beat Boston, because because
they knew that it was over. And this is a
fun story. And it's great that we're going to get
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TNT with another game. We're going to get another opportunity
to see the NBA on T n T again, which
we've grown with over the past couple of decades. But
you watched the game last night, and I don't know
if anybody else the way I see it, but I
look at the game and I go Indiana is by
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far and away the better team. They're deeper. Even though Tibbs,
you know, adjusted his lineup, adjusted his rotation. He put
in Mitchell Robinson, he took out Josh Hart. All of
that being said, I find it hard to believe that
Indiana comes out and goes cold in the second half
like they did last night at home. I just don't
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see it happening. This is going to play out the
way it played out against Cleveland. For Indiana, they lost
game three at home, they came back in game four,
they annihilated the Calves and it was over. So this
is a fun story. It's fun the Knicks fans finally
got to see their team win an Eastern Conference championship game.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But that's a wrap, folks. This is done. It's over.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And I just you just watch the game and not
the you know, the the parts where Indiana is struggling
to find a shot, like even their like shot selection offensively,
this weird. It didn't look like what they were normally doing.
And I don't know if it's because they got comfortable,
I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They still went up twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, I just so what you're saying is true.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
That's so damning because they still in the game where
you felt like they didn't do as well as they
should have done, they.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Still went up by twenty.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, it's the fact that they gave twenty I guess
to your point, it's the fact that they gave a
twenty point lead away.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They just kind of didn't it look like in the
in the second half, they were just kind of lacks
of days ago possessions. They were just whatever, but just
almost like playing with their food, like well, yeah, no,
And then all of a sudden they're down two and
it's late and it's like, no, now you need a
shot from Siakam to try and tie the game, and
now they're in a battle. I just I think they respond,
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and I think they hammer the Knicks in game four.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's possible it could play out that way, but it
is also the idea of that's exactly how the Knicks.
You could probably say the Knicks lost their first game.
I would say the second game was the one game
where I'd say Indiana won that game, but the first
game that was the next game. They let that thing
get away, and it is what it is. It happened
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the way that it happened, and they have to live
with it the same way Indiana Pacers have to live
with the way they let yesterday's game get away too
close to being an up three to zero, and we
all know being up three to zero in the series
is almost like a death sentence to the series.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Now you get that one.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Victory and you overcome crazy circumstances, crazy odds to get
to that victory. This is now a gut check for
both teams because the New York Knicks they got to
do it one more time in Indiana, just like Indiana
had to do it in New York. If they're able
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to pull this series even in the next game, if
they're able to pull this game even in Indy, this
is a series, and I don't know it's and I
don't know that it's a series that Indiana can pull
out if they hit a tailspin where the Knicks get
to take it back home with a two to two tie.
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Now I do believe it'll go to seven games. But
with that being said, it now turns into not a
cruise control series for the Indiana Pacers. With everybody talking
about how good this roster is and they're the Eastern
version of the OKC Thunder, and this is gonna be
a great matchup in the in the NBA Finals, even
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though nobody's gonna watch it because it's not great markets.
I guess that want to watch the game. It's not
the big markets. It's not the Boston Celtics versus the
Lakers or anything like that. But with that being said,
I don't know that Indiana can get out of this
series alive. If they do not put this game, this
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game five away or game Excuse me, I do not
know that if they don't win Game four that they
can get out of this series. Now ties even and
it's anybody series, and I get that, but I think
the emotional mental kind of impact that that would have
on the team. They're going to have to find a
way to suck it up and they're going to have
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to find a way to get out of the series,
even though they are the better team on paper.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Jonas.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But I'll say this, Karl Anthony town said his teammates
got him in position to take advantage. I'll say this,
if he decides that he wants to be the player
he's supposed to be and not chuck up all them
three pointers and stay on the outside and on the
perimeter and play that soft ass style of basketball at
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times that he's been known to play, and he puts
his head down and he plays like a big man
that can shoot from the outside but can score on
the inside and make things uncomfortable, almost like a Yokic,
like a different version. But I'm just saying, same type
of skill set. You could shoot from anywhere on the court,
but you have the size and the ability to be
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able to do it on the inside. If Carl Anthony
Towns takes away from that game that he can do
that in any of these games, the Pacers are in
trouble and the team they played, they face after the Pacers,
if they were to win the series, would be in
trouble too. But that has to be a big if
that comes to fruition with Carl Anthony Towns being the catalyst.
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Obviously Brunson is going to be the facilitator. And you
gotta have the different guys that you know, Bridges could
have had a better game. You know, Annonobe had a
good game. He could play better. There are guys that
could play better. Mitchell Robinson could play better. There are
guys that could have played better in yesterday's game for
the Knicks as well. So this could turn into a
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serious matchup.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Your point is spot on about if Carl Anthony Towns
just stays in the post or back, he can get
a basket at the rim anytime he wants. And they
were talking about a postgame and that sort of shacks
frustration with him and a lot of people's frustration with him.
That was you know, last year, it was Anthony Edwards
frustration with him when he spoke about it afterwards after
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games for the Timberwolves last year. He can score in
the post whenever he wants. He can get a basket
there whenever he wants. Now that being said, in watching
Karl Anthony Towns over the past couple of years in
the playoffs, what do you think is more likely to
happen this next game since he was dominant down low
against Indiana, that he does it again, or that he
starts chucking up threes again, because I'll take the ladder.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
He's just start again. That's what he does. But if
he sees.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
It on film, Like, Carl Anthony Towns is a very
cerebral guy, right, super intelligent dude. And you know if
you you see what you're capable of doing on on film,
And I know they're going to get the opportunity to
watch this game on film and go over it and
study it. And and that coach and his teammates have
to sit there and they gotta be like Cat, we
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know you love shooting that three ball, bro, we know
you love that long game, Pausle, but you got to
take it on inside, my guy, Hammers, Willie.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You gotta take it on inside.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
My guy, Hey cat, you gotta be the big cat,
and you gotta take it on inside.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And I think.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I think he's going to come out, and I think
he's gonna he's going to try to push that thing
inside and be be a little more.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
He's just not He's not a shack.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I can understand Shaq's frustration because you have you have
more skill shooting the ball than Shaq does.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I mean, you're not as dominant and.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
As dog as as Shaq is in playing on the inside,
but you have the size and you have the ability
to be able to do some of the things that
Shaq did down low in that post, especially in an
outside game NBA where you're looking at an Indiana Pacers
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team that plays very very good perimeter defense. Take a
down low cat, do what you need to do, and
you might have the opportunities to shoot those threes. But
I think him shooting all of them threes was the
reason why they got down so bad, Like he just
chucking it up like bro At least give us that
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that grimy, gritty dog type of approach to the game
early on in the game. Let's establish that we can
score down low early on in the game, because, like
you said, both teams didn't seem to be hitting shots.
It was poor shooting. And if you're having poor shooting,
you should be putting points on the board the old
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fashioned way, which is get as close to the rim
as you possibly can. And if Karl Anthony Towns, to
answer your question, if he is willing to take on
that weight, which why wouldn't you be Why wouldn't you
be willing to take on that weight. If he's willing
to take on that weight and really assert himself and
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apply himself in a big man's type of form, not
in the outside shooting three pointers all game and that
never going down low seven foot or no. If he
applies himself and asserts himself, this could get bad for Indiana.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Will he do it?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I'm gonna say, I'm fifty to fifty on the on
the fence.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
No, you're not. He's going to try to shoot out there,
he is.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
He's gonna he's going he's gonna shoot outside first before
he decides he's going to have to see if he's
missing first, before he decides he wants to smoke down.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I agree with you.
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
You know, some people have said, are you guys you
know what? Is this like a Memorial Day takeover of
The Dan Patrick Show? I mean kind of, I guess.
I mean, that's what our job is here, that's what
our duty is. And apparently there's another takeover that's happening,
and it's the NFL continuing their takeover, and the takeover
is holiday and holiday action and holiday action when there
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happens to be another league who's had that holiday all
to themselves for several several years now, So much so
that Jason Kelsey was on his New Heights podcast talking
about how he's a fan of the NFL playing on
Christmas and on these major holidays and had this to say.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Now, I'm also just a fan of playing on more
primetime times like that's when I'm watching TV, and I
like you when football is on the television. So let's
keep putting good football games on television when everybody's watching.
I mean, I think it's just good for the game.
Let's keep taking over all the holidays or taking over Thanksgiving, Christmas, NBA,
you're never getting that back. I mean, it's it's that's the.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Way it is. And he's one hundred percent correct. He
ain't live. They're never getting it back.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, like what once the NFL realized, I'll wait, like
this is doable. Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and take
that too. And then it, you know, became one game
and two games, and it's just this is where we are.
And I don't know what the plan would be for
the NBA, but if you're the NFL. And by the way,
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for those of you wondering, well, it's just because you
know Christmas falls on certain days of the week.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, it's over because.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Christmas is a Thursday this year, a Friday of the
year after a Saturday after that, a Sunday a month. Like,
it's going to be a long ass time before anybody
can make the argument, well, depending on the day of
the week it falls, it's not great for the schedule
and the players. The NFL is going to take this
over and it's going to be theirs moving forward.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I mean, what else is there to say? You know,
Kelsey nailed it, and I think you put a bow
on it if it's good football. And listen, I look
at it like this during the holiday season. The one
thing that you get yourself set for during Christmas time,
pre Christmas, post Christmas and New Year is college football.
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So if we're being honest, I don't think about the
NBA on Christmas maybe Christmas Day, you're right, but I
don't think about the NBA. I think about college football,
and I think about bowl games. And now that you
have to playoff it now makes it even more intensified
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getting into that corridor of the year coming to an
end and rounding it out by having, you know, Christmas
and then New Years. So if you're putting on a
quality football game from the National Football League and that's
on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Day, Hell, if you put two three.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Games on on Christmas Day that are quality matchups of
the National Football League, I can guarantee you guar runtee
that you're going to have a tremendously large viewing audience
of those games that are taking place.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Totally agree. Yeah, And I look at it and I
go if you're the NBA. I mean, what do you do?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
You just keep trying to chuck along, you know, chuck
them up, like like Karl Anthony Townsend.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Hope something goes in and just.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You know, like for example, you know the the Christmas
schedule for the NFL coming up this year, Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos, Chiefs, Like,
all of those are compelling matches.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I watch all three, every single one. There would have
to be a dope ass Bowl game on and that game.
I would even be switching in and out to all
the games depending on what the times that are are playing.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And I'll be honest with you, if you like, who
do you think the two worst teams in the NFL
are going to be this year?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Like if you if you had to right now, guess.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The Saints, Yeah, and maybe the Browns.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
If the Saints and the Browns are playing on Christmas,
are you watching that or an NBA game?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm watching the NFL game. I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Sorry, just I don't know. It depends.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Give me the match up of the NBA game, give
me the matchup of the NBA game, then give me
what best case scenario.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I mean, look, I mean, if you wanted, you know,
best case scenario, you know, maybe it would be a
you know, a Thunder Celtics match or no, I mean,
Tatum's going to be out for majority of the year.
So let's say Thunder Pacers NBA Finals rematch. I'm watching them.
I'm watching the Saints Browns.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm watching the Saints Browns.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
It's it sounds more interesting, it sounds more intriguing. What
what's at Steak in December for the NBA for them
NBA games?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Nothing?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
What's at Steak? I mean, We're we're heading into June,
you know what I mean? Like, we're heading into June
and basketball NBA season is still going. I don't see
there being enough importance to you.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Don't.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Again, I don't believe the NBA has a player right
now or players.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Outside of you.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Being a avid NBA fan, an avid sports fan.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I do not leave the NBA has.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
The type of player that can drive the viewership the
way that you've had it in decades past.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Let me paint this scenario for you, all right, Just
imagine the NBA to counter program does that rematch of
the NBA Finals, and it is Pacers and Thunder and
the NFL. This is a pre example. This is not
the matchup, but this is the worst. If you had
to pick the two worst teams in the league, and
the NFL rolls out Tyler Schuck versus Dylan Gabriel and
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would do better numbers than the NBA showing a rematch
of the finals.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
But I think it classically comes back to the way
the popularity has been grown and the way the popularity.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Has been built.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
National Football League has always made it a point to
make the shield the most important branding that takes place,
not to mention guys wear helmets. So you can look
at a matchup, but you'll ultimately find the reasons why
that is an intriguing matchup, even if it's two trash teams.
And it's also because the NFL doesn't play nearly as
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many games as the NBA, so it's almost these days,
which is one of the best things that the NFL
could have ever done, is these days, they've made every
game matter more and they're continuing to figure out ways
to reward the teams that take every single game and
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every single week take it seriously, like you know, you're
not sitting there like, ah, you know, well, there's more
games to be played, we will be fine. It's almost
taking on the same type of characteristics in some ways
in regard as college football. And that's the reason why
we love college football so much historically speaking of course, is.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
That you couldn't lose.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
If you lost, that meant that your season was in jeopardy,
jeopardy after one loss. Now you can lose one, maybe
even two games and get into the college football playoff
and who knows what happens there.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We had a two loss team win the championship this year.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Correct, Yeah, So at the end of the day, I
think that there's a level of intensity and that the
Shield does an excellent job of creating this intensity and
passion for consumption of the talent that's going out there
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on the days that they're playing. And you're right, you
only get so much time with the game. Like people
be going through and I'm one of them. We be
going through like like postseason, like fallout, like like withdraw
like did I love the fact that the players get
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an opportunity to play in the UFL and try to
make it into the NFL. It does not quench my
thirst for football NFL college.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It does not.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
It still feels like there is a departure from what
life should be like when football season is not here
and to be to have been able to create that
type of buy in from a consumer, man, that's an ultimate.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Product, and it's very hard. It's very hard to.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Fight your way back from that type of established fandom
and viewership and buy in to a particular league of
particular sport.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So there's this old saying that nobody cares about your
fantasy football team. Like it just in general, when people
start complaining about their fantasy football team, it's what, like, man,
nobody cares. I don't want to hear about your fantasy team.
You know who does care about your fantasy team? The NFL,
Because I think fantasy football is as much to do
with this as anything because it's basically gambling, and it
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was the I guess the show before the gambling show
started was fantasy football. So that was sort of your
appetizer to get you into what gambling could look like.
In the NFL, these games late in the season, like
that on a Christmas you could look at a Saints
Browns matchup just for example, that's not going to be
the matchup because the NFL realizes those teams are terrible.
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That's why New Orleans and Cleveland don't have a primetime game.
But you could set that game up and there's going
to be an audience because somebody's going to have a
player from one of those teams on their fantasy team.
Somebody's going to have money invested in it. They've just
done more to make the sport presentable and interesting to people,
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even if they don't.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Have a team.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And we've talked about this before you and I grew up,
it was like you had to have a team. Who's
your team?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And now and you've made the point because of fantasy football,
it isn't about that your team is your fantasy team. Yeah,
like listen, that's cool. You know so and so places
for this team, Like he's not on my team. That's
what's important. And I think the NFL recognized that, and
the NFL has taken advantage of that. And I think
fantasy football and gambling is the biggest reason why they
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could just continued to take over because you could put
any matchup you wanted on and counter the NBA's matchup,
whatever it is, whatever interesting storyline the NBA things they have.
More people are gonna watch the NFL, because the NFL
has done a better job of making their product and
their league presentable and interesting to the consumer, and that's
why they've seen the spike in the numbers.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
And the not you can do about it. You don't
have a Michael Jordan that can combat a Walter Payton.
You don't have a Shaquille O'Neill that can combat a
Ray Lewis. You don't have a Kobe Bryant that can
combat a Peyton Manning. You don't. You don't have the
star power. And that's no shape, I promise, that's no
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shade towards towards the you know, SGA's or the Anthony
Atwards in the league, the Jason Tatum's or whoever else
you have as the Jannis or the Jokich's. It's no shade,
I promise. They just don't have the draw that a
Shaquille O'Neill had. You had an opportunity with Shaq, You
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had an opportunity with Kobe. You had an opportunity with
mj and Scottie Pippen and even the mailman like by
by Market, you know, Magic Johnson. You had the opportunities
to have a captive audience and a large, tremendously passionate
viewing audience. When you develop those brands, but you're you're
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at the risk of having strong branded players in the
NBA versus a strong brand the Shield that continues to
prove that even if Peyton Manning leaves, even if Tom
Brady he leaves, even if any of the best of
the best players that play in the National Football League
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retire and are done, this league just continues.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
To grow more and more and more, and.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
They're finding more ways to expand and they build that
off of the brand of the Shield. And that might
have been the best asset created by the NFL owners
and and and what we've watched Paul Tagliaboo start and
and and have watched Roger Goodell continue to grow and build.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It's just it's.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
They have created something so strong that they continue to
widen the gap between other sports, at least domestically.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And also to your point on Goodell, I don't think
he gets enough credit because a lot of it's, you know,
it's the cool thing to do booth the commissioner, Like uh,
you know, like the cool thing to do is booth
the commissioner. You know, when when Gary Bettman comes out
on the ice, they boom in the NHL, you know,
like Rob manforgets boom And he said some dumb things
before in the past, but that's the cool thing. Goodell
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gets booed all that stuff. The one thing you can
be critical of maybe the way he handled punishments and
the NFL having too much say when it came to
off field crimes. And you know, there was obviously the
mismanagement of the Ray Rice video and what happened afterwards.
All of that is fair criticism. He did not do
a great job. But if from a business standpoint, he's
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hitting out of the park. Like from a business standpoint,
there's a reason why the owners re elect him every
single time because he has had an eye to that
to your point, and he has recognized there's an ability
to grow the game and to cater to an audience
that if we do that, we will far surpass any
other quote unquote competition that's out there. And I think
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that's what's happened and he deserves a lot of that
credit as well.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Well, you hit it earlier, and I just end with
this the mic drop is Goodell being able to be
able to incorporate and implement gambling and it being.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
A legal deal where you're able to do it.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
They're they're opening up sports books in in UH, in
the arenas, in the stadiums. Now, that's probably the singular
pad on the back that a boy that Roger Goodell
gets from these owners because it has probably taken revenues
up significantly, uh in terms of what they're able to
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bring in and what what they weren't able to bring in.
But it still was out there and it's still existed Jonas.
Now they're able to bring that into their doors and
add that to their bottom line. So yeah, I mean
the things that they've done, the things that Roger Goodell
has done, have been very strategically sound, very intentional and
purpose and placing, and it's working.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
You're seeing it work.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
As you mentioned, You're you've created a larger fan base
based upon fantasy football. People who aren't even serious football
fans and still get involved with fantasy football. So and
even if it's not an aggressive way, a passionate way
of getting involved with the game, you still have people
that are passive, passive fans that are still getting involved
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with the game because fantasy football brings them together. It's
like a night of Sorry or night of Monopoly or
whatever it may be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So it's super smart man.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And by the way, speaking of sorry, lead to Lap
is our executive producer here, Lee.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
How many fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Leagues are you in each year?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
At least four, but probably closer to five. Okay, Like
he's a degenerate, I mean. And by the way, he
still hasn't paid anybody first.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I have paid them on he said he paid it all.
He said he he holds the money people.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, and if that's the league, I would never enter.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I would never enter a league where lead the Lap
holds the money for the prize winners. Just wouldn't happen.
That's a bad mistake right out the gate. You're already
off to a.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Bad starts of Lead to Lats holding the money. That
means at some point Prestige Liquor in Burbank is.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Holding the money. That is very true. But I was
just layaway. That's the bank that's holding the money.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Right by the end, I'm just holding a win and
nuts so I don't have to pay out.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, right.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
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Speaker 2 (33:30):
It is time to get back into the discussion that
has run rough shot over the NFL and sports media
over the past several weeks, and it was the tush push.
Was the tush push going to be banned? Where they
going to get rid of the toush push? Well, apparently
somebody who doesn't even really play a key component to
the tush push, Saquon Barkley. He was on The Exciting
(33:53):
Mike's podcast, which is just a phenomenal name. Cooper de
Gene Reed Blank and Ship the Exciting Whites. They have
a podcast called The Exciting Like, yeah, they're called the
Exciting Whites. Oh yeah, they said it not me.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
No reason to hate on them. They are exciting and
they're white. Well there you go. Actorate.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So Saquon Barkley, their teammate, was on their podcast and
had this to say about the potential of the tush
push possibly being banned before it was overruled.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
But the banning thing of it, I think it's kind
of I think it's soft, to be honest, like the
teams that want to be in it, because everybody can
do it. Like it's not like a play that like
we only can do. Everybody can do trademark. Yeah, and
they're just we happen to have one of the best
and biggest old lines and Jalen Hurts can squat six
hundred pounds, Like that's not our fault.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Like Josh Allen is super big.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
They're not successful with it.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Lamar Jackson is one of the best running quarterbasketball time.
They're not successful with it.
Speaker 9 (34:53):
So it's not something that like everyone can't do, so
like them trying to eliminate it. It's just like I
think that's kind of lane.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, soft asses trying to get rid of the tush
push think about that Ibar that.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I mean, he's not wrong. If you can't beat them,
join them.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
So basically what you're saying is is that that and
that play in that formation. The Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger,
badder asses than you are everybody who's against it. All
you're basically saying is you're conceding the fact that the
Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger, and better at doing this
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play than any other team, and we don't want to
see them do it because it's an unfair advantage to
the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I can I ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
If the Titans did the tush push, is there even
a discussion about it getting banned? I think part of
this is because it's Philly, and because they're a bit
obnoxious at times, and they're a bit boisterous at times
about how they do things.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
And you got their head.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Coach calling it first and nine whenever they get the ball,
because they're just going to get that final yard.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
If it was if it was fire, it's great.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But if it was and if it was Tennessee or
or another organization that wasn't as lowed. I don't even
think this is even being talked about. I don't I
don't think people would care.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I think it is, and I think it is talked
about just because of the nature of the play, but
the intensity of it. The different storylines that have resonated
from it are purely because it's Philadelphia. It's purely because
it's Nick Sirianni. It's it's purely because of UH, this
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team being UH that it fits the reputation of the
city of brotherly love. So to me, I think it's
a perfect storm play for the market, for the team,
what Philly represents.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I mean, it's a tough, gritty, hard knows you know city.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Anybody who knows about Philadelphia, they know about the different
boroughs and the different different areas you know of a Philadelphia,
the suburbs, the inner city parts. They know about all
of it, and everybody has a certain way of how
things are done. And most would say, most would say
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that it is a very very edgy, very gritty type
of place. So this play is the perfect fit for
what the Philadelphia Eagles represent to their fan base. So
I don't know, man, I tend to agree with Sakwon though.
If you got such an issue with it and you
feel like it's it's not a stoppable play, why don't
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you adopt first and nine?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Why don't you adopt.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
The ability to be able to run the toush push
knowing that you can get one yard at least one
yard when you need it, whenever you need to get it.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Why wouldn't you adopt that first and nine? That's what I mean, Great,
it's great putting it on the table.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Say this is what we're doing. Dare you, we dare
you to try and stop it. This is what we're doing.
It's first to nine, just so you know, like it.
But I and I watch it and I go this
has really become the biggest talking point of the NFL
off season as far as on the field stuff goes.
And it was this and then it turned.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Into this heated debate where you've got you know, Jeffrey Lorie,
you know, doing a comparison to a teenage boy's.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Wet dream and all that.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like Philly's just they're in a place right now where
they know they're the champs. They're going to let everybody
know they're the champs. And I think next year they're
going to go out of their way to make an
example of people with this play. And we brought up
the possibility of this. Oh yeah, but we brought up
the possibility this on our show that they open up
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the NFL season against the Cowboys. I would not surprise me.
The first chance they get first down, say it their
own twenty five thirty yard line, and they're just gonna
go tush push on the first play of the season,
just to stick it to the league and stick it
to everybody else's, Saquan pointed out, you know all the
lame asses out there who are soft enough to vote
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against it, Like I think that's the way Philly's gonna
handle this, Like they know, Look, we may be on
borrow time. Eventually, they're gonna want to try and get
this taken out of the game. While we've got it,
Let's go ahead and stick it to everybody for as
long as we can.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Feels like something they would do. That feels like an
Eagles move.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I mean, why wouldn't you. And it don't look like
they slowing up. Look at what they they're doing personnel wise,
like they ain't slowing up. So don't think that they're
just going to go quietly into that good night.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
They're not. You're gonna have to deal with us, you know,
I mean them.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
You know, I'm Pittsburgh, dude, but I do love Pa
and I do rep Philly. You're gonna have to deal
with the Eagles, man, And that's just it is what
it is. They have a very very nice like this
is what you got to say, because you can't limit
them to just being one play, right, The Philadelphia Eagles
just won the Super Bowl. People like quick reminder, they
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just won and they knocked off them boys, and I
ain't talking about Dallas. So when you look at what
they've been able to pool together, and it hasn't come
void of drama, hasn't come void of adversity. But adding
Saquon to this team was the single biggest move in
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all of the National Football League in my estimation, having
what they already had on the defensive side of the
ball and continuing to add as some of the guys
like Brandon Graham retiring some of these guys leaving. They
are so deep with talent that looking at them, it's
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almost crazy to think that most of these guys are
literally on rookie contracts, man and having the ability to
grow your team and figure out where to to you know,
mix and match or where to fill in and plug
in the gap. They're not just plugging in the gap
with serviceable players. They're plugging in the gap with guys
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that are coming out of college that are perennial Pro Bowlers,
perennial All pros, just talented players. So the storyline is
much bigger than one play With Philadelphia, it just becomes
a funny story, a funny conversation if you ask me,
because it's almost like you, you know, the people who
are having such an issue with this play. It's almost
(41:56):
like you have an issue with the Philadelphia Eagles or
somebody that's a part of the philip Maybe it's Big
Dom you got an issue with.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
I don't know who it is, but you got an.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Issue, and you're trying to paint this picture like the
Philadelphia Eagles are only good because of one play. You
could not be further from the truth of reality in
terms of what this team represents. It is a well
built team. It's turned into a well oiled machine. Jonas
so to say it's one one play, like, oh you
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do away with the toush push, You're doing away with
the Philadelphia Eagles success. Yeah, try that one. Try that
one out. See how that one ages. And I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Because you're a you're a brander, all right, You're you're
all about branding and uh and you know, putting, putting
a stamp on things to make it official.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
And get it coverage and making it grow.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Yeah, we're talking about stick Cicky stick City, Logger stick City.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, getting get a little logger here soon. But it's
coming like, uh, if you're Anthony.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Barr okay and you're something for well.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I mean he came up with it and he's nowhere
to be found. Like he's the inventor of the tush push.
And this was back when you know, he was with
the Vikings in twenty eighteen. He's a linebacker. He's not
even on offense. It's his idea, it's his brainchild, and
he gets none of the love, like, none of the
credit whatsoever. If I'm Anthony Barr, I'm pissed. This is
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my invention.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
What you're going to get out of it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Can he get like anything?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Way, No, you can't. You can't.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
You can't make money off of a play like I mean,
it would be cool if he got money every time
it was. You know, if he was smart enough to
maybe purchase the rights to the name. I wouldn't be
surprised if the name is still available. Somebody might be
looking it up right now and parking it. It might
still be available, because you just wouldn't assume that you could,
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you know, monetize.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I mean I preferred the brotherly shove personally, but you know,
the tush push.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
You know, people you know teach their own. That's what
that's what they like. But what was the official original though?
Do we know?
Speaker 4 (44:07):
I don't know that he gave it. Did he give
it a name or did he just say this type
of play? You can't because I remember hearing the audio
of him saying it on the sideline, But did he
give it a play in particular? Like like, for instance,
why am I blinking on his name, the defensive end,
big defensive end, Deacon Deacon? Why was I blanking on
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Deacon Jones? All right, Deacon Jones comes up with the sack, right,
and he coined it. He coined the phrase sack the sack,
and they started keeping it. As they said, Deacon Jones
might have had two three hundred sacks. Nobody knew about
it because they didn't keep that stack. And they started
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keeping the stat after he was talking about sacking the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So if you did it in that way, I see.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
I don't know if if Deacon Jones was making money
off of the words sack, But imagine every single time
they said the word sack, he got a residual from it.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I mean, that would be pretty dope. I don't know
if that exists here.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
In this situation, he just watched Bruce Smith games and
get paid every time every time Bruce made a play.
There's a lot of them out here, man. Sacks are what.
Sacks are just as good as it's like a number
two ranking of a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I would assume a sack is it's up there. It's
up there. I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
The most prized defenders these days are guys that get sacks,
maybe even more so than interceptions. I would say more
so than interceptions.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
If you just you could have, you'd be playing an
awful game. If you got one sack a game that
made your game, Like you're going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
That makes your game.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
You can if you can touch their one a quarterback
one time in a game and they say sack, you've
done well.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
That's a that's a brutal existence for an offensive lineman, though,
Like you shut a guy out for ninety nine percent
of the game, but he got that one time and
because of that he's going to the Hall of Fame.
I mean, if you average one sack of game, that's
seventeen sacks, right, seventeen eighteen games is seventeen seventeen seventeen sacks.
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Bro you get seventeen sacks and you have a ten
year career. You do that, Matt, I mean it won
every two games, and you have a ten year career,
you're approaching hundred sacks. You got a shot at being
going to the Hall of Fame. That's it's crazy, man like.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
I mean, you're in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
So listen to Anthony Barr. We're trying, welcome, trying to
get you pays wet you some. We tried all right,
but the agens up taking it over.
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. It's a Memorial Day out there.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I hope people acknowledge what it's actually about. The barbecues,
all that stuff is fun, but what it's actually about
and what those lost souls meant to our country and
all that. Hope we take time to appreciate that. We
are going to take time to first acknowledge that apparently
the New York Knicks are not ready to just lay
(00:27):
down and give up here, LaVar Arrington. They're not ready.
They have now made this a series for now, and
they come back pull off a comeback win of their own.
Allah what the Indian Indiana Pacers did to them in
Game one. In Game two, and the Knicks get it
done on the road in Indiana somehow, some way and
(00:49):
bring this series.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
To two to one in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Being the son of a Vet that almost lost his
life in Vietnam, always to make sure I take my time,
especially being on air on Memorial Day, to make sure
I do honor and remember our brave men and women
who pay the ultimate price and made the ultimate sacrifice
(01:17):
for our freedom. So I just want to say I'm
so appreciative and I'm so happy and proud to be
the son of a military VET, proud to be a
part of generations of military service members who have taken
pride and representing our country and fighting for our freedom.
(01:39):
So I would be remiss if if I didn't say
that quickly. Thank you to all the memories of those
who live in our hearts in our minds that gave
us the right and the opportunity to have these freedoms
just to talk on the radio and.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
To talk sports. So thank you to all of you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Enjoy your day, but just remember to remember those that
not only are are gone and have given their lives
for our country, but those who are still here because
they well, they need our attention and they need our
love more than anyone. So make sure you hug a
vet today, make sure you show them some love, and uh,
(02:21):
enjoy your Memorial Day. Uh. And it was not a
Memorial Day for the New York Knicks. So so to
get to your point, you finally saw a team that
had to to, I guess, feel the pressure of the
series coming to a unceremonials unceremonious end. It did not
(02:45):
look like it was going to be a good series.
It looked to be the same yesterday's game as the
Indiana Indiana Pacers. Uh took took the lead and was
up quite a few I believe it was a twenty
point deficit that the New York Knicks erased. Uh. I'll
(03:07):
say this, Indiana did it to them. You know, New
York was up. New York had the opportunity to win
the game, and they choked on it. And and now
you saw the Indiana Pacers proverbial choking take place. And
yesterday's game, they had a game. This was an opportunity
being up by the amount they were in by to
(03:31):
basically put maybe put the stamp on it, you know,
put put the toe toe tag on the next the
Knicks fought back. Karl Anthony Towns looked like two different
people in the game. Jonas first half, it was like,
come on, what are you doing? Probably need to bench him,
Probably need to just leave him there and just see
(03:51):
what's going to happen. And then in the second half
Cat fueled them. And it only goes to serve the purpose.
What the conversations have been since they made the trades
of of you know what, Randall going to Minnesota and
and Towns coming to the Knicks is that Karl Anthony
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Towns has to play like an all star if this
team is to have a chance to win this series
and to have it remotely any chance of not being
a sacrificial lamb in the next in the next series.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So Carl Anthony Towns, as you mentioned, he had the
monster fourth quarter which fueled to comeback for the Knicks,
and he spoke afterwards about what went into his performance.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
That's opportunity to utilize all those hours I'll put into
the gym, and the game wasn't looking great for me
as well, but for all of us, and I just
wanted to do whatever it takes to help put us
in a position to win.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
And like I said, it's it's a testament to my teammates,
you know, having trusted me and giving me, you know,
putting me in spots where I could see seed and
and utilize my talent. So that's just testing, you know.
Shout out to the guys in the locker room. You know,
this is a great team win. But we got we know,
we gotta be better than we were tonight if we
expect to find a way to get another win.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, I mean so he has to put himself in
better situations to have better games earlier. Yeah, how you
feel about it, he has to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's I mean, this is a wonderful moment for for
the Nicks and for that fan base. This is great
and and now it makes sense why they celebrated the
way that they did after they beat Boston, because because
they knew that it was over. And this is a
fun story. And it's great that we're going to get
(05:45):
TNT with another game. We're going to get another opportunity
to see the NBA on T n T again, which
we've grown with over the past couple of decades. But
you watched the game last night, and I don't know
if anybody else the way I see it, but I
look at the game and I go Indiana is by
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far and away the better team. They're deeper. Even though Tibbs,
you know, adjusted his lineup, adjusted his rotation. He put
in Mitchell Robinson, he took out Josh Hart. All of
that being said, I find it hard to believe that
Indiana comes out and goes cold in the second half
like they did last night at home. I just don't
(06:26):
see it happening. This is going to play out the
way it played out against Cleveland. For Indiana, they lost
game three at home, they came back in game four,
they annihilated the Calves and it was over. So this
is a fun story. It's fun the Knicks fans finally
got to see their team win an Eastern Conference championship game.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
But that's a wrap, folks. This is done. It's over.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And I just you just watch the game and not
the you know, the the parts where Indiana is struggling
to find a shot, like even their like shot selection offensively,
this weird. It didn't look like what they were normally doing.
And I don't know if it's because they got comfortable,
I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
They still went up twenty.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, I just so what you're saying is true.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
That's so damning because they still in the game where
you felt like they didn't do as well as they
should have done, they.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Still went up by twenty.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, it's the fact that they gave twenty I guess
to your point, it's the fact that they gave a
twenty point lead away.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
They just kind of didn't it look like in the
in the second half, they were just kind of lacks
of days ago possessions. They were just whatever, but just
almost like playing with their food, like well, yeah, no,
And then all of a sudden they're down two and
it's late and it's like, no, now you need a
shot from Siakam to try and tie the game, and
now they're in a battle. I just I think they respond,
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and I think they hammer the Knicks in game four.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's possible it could play out that way, but it
is also the idea of that's exactly how the Knicks.
You could probably say the Knicks lost their first game.
I would say the second game was the one game
where I'd say Indiana won that game, but the first
game that was the next game. They let that thing
get away, and it is what it is. It happened
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the way that it happened, and they have to live
with it the same way Indiana Pacers have to live
with the way they let yesterday's game get away too
close to being an up three to zero, and we
all know being up three to zero in the series
is almost like a death sentence to the series.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Now you get that one.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Victory and you overcome crazy circumstances, crazy odds to get
to that victory. This is now a gut check for
both teams because the New York Knicks they got to
do it one more time in Indiana, just like Indiana
had to do it in New York. If they're able
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to pull this series even in the next game, if
they're able to pull this game even in Indy, this
is a series, and I don't know it's and I
don't know that it's a series that Indiana can pull
out if they hit a tailspin where the Knicks get
to take it back home with a two to two tie.
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Now I do believe it'll go to seven games. But
with that being said, it now turns into not a
cruise control series for the Indiana Pacers. With everybody talking
about how good this roster is and they're the Eastern
version of the OKC Thunder, and this is gonna be
a great matchup in the in the NBA Finals, even
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though nobody's gonna watch it because it's not great markets.
I guess that want to watch the game. It's not
the big markets. It's not the Boston Celtics versus the
Lakers or anything like that. But with that being said,
I don't know that Indiana can get out of this
series alive. If they do not put this game, this
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game five away or game Excuse me, I do not
know that if they don't win Game four that they
can get out of this series. Now ties even and
it's anybody series, and I get that, but I think
the emotional mental kind of impact that that would have
on the team. They're going to have to find a
way to suck it up and they're going to have
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to find a way to get out of the series,
even though they are the better team on paper.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Jonas.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But I'll say this, Karl Anthony town said his teammates
got him in position to take advantage. I'll say this,
if he decides that he wants to be the player
he's supposed to be and not chuck up all them
three pointers and stay on the outside and on the
perimeter and play that soft ass style of basketball at
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times that he's been known to play, and he puts
his head down and he plays like a big man
that can shoot from the outside but can score on
the inside and make things uncomfortable, almost like a Yokic,
like a different version. But I'm just saying, same type
of skill set. You could shoot from anywhere on the court,
but you have the size and the ability to be
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able to do it on the inside. If Carl Anthony
Towns takes away from that game that he can do
that in any of these games, the Pacers are in
trouble and the team they played, they face after the Pacers,
if they were to win the series, would be in
trouble too. But that has to be a big if
that comes to fruition with Carl Anthony Towns being the catalyst.
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Obviously Brunson is going to be the facilitator. And you
gotta have the different guys that you know, Bridges could
have had a better game. You know, Annonobe had a
good game. He could play better. There are guys that
could play better. Mitchell Robinson could play better. There are
guys that could have played better in yesterday's game for
the Knicks as well. So this could turn into a
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serious matchup.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Your point is spot on about if Carl Anthony Towns
just stays in the post or back, he can get
a basket at the rim anytime he wants. And they
were talking about a postgame and that sort of shacks
frustration with him and a lot of people's frustration with him.
That was you know, last year, it was Anthony Edwards
frustration with him when he spoke about it afterwards after
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games for the Timberwolves last year. He can score in
the post whenever he wants. He can get a basket
there whenever he wants. Now that being said, in watching
Karl Anthony Towns over the past couple of years in
the playoffs, what do you think is more likely to
happen this next game since he was dominant down low
against Indiana, that he does it again, or that he
starts chucking up threes again, because I'll take the ladder.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
He's just start again. That's what he does. But if
he sees.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
It on film, Like, Carl Anthony Towns is a very
cerebral guy, right, super intelligent dude. And you know if
you you see what you're capable of doing on on film,
And I know they're going to get the opportunity to
watch this game on film and go over it and
study it. And and that coach and his teammates have
to sit there and they gotta be like Cat, we
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know you love shooting that three ball, bro, we know
you love that long game, Pausle, but you got to
take it on inside, my guy, Hammers, Willie.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You gotta take it on inside.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
My guy, Hey cat, you gotta be the big cat,
and you gotta take it on inside.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And I think.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I think he's going to come out, and I think
he's gonna he's going to try to push that thing
inside and be be a little more.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
He's just not He's not a shack.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
I can understand Shaq's frustration because you have you have
more skill shooting the ball than Shaq does.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I mean, you're not as dominant and.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
As dog as as Shaq is in playing on the inside,
but you have the size and you have the ability
to be able to do some of the things that
Shaq did down low in that post, especially in an
outside game NBA where you're looking at an Indiana Pacers
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team that plays very very good perimeter defense. Take a
down low cat, do what you need to do, and
you might have the opportunities to shoot those threes. But
I think him shooting all of them threes was the
reason why they got down so bad, Like he just
chucking it up like bro At least give us that
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that grimy, gritty dog type of approach to the game
early on in the game. Let's establish that we can
score down low early on in the game, because, like
you said, both teams didn't seem to be hitting shots.
It was poor shooting. And if you're having poor shooting,
you should be putting points on the board the old
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fashioned way, which is get as close to the rim
as you possibly can. And if Karl Anthony Towns, to
answer your question, if he is willing to take on
that weight, which why wouldn't you be Why wouldn't you
be willing to take on that weight. If he's willing
to take on that weight and really assert himself and
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apply himself in a big man's type of form, not
in the outside shooting three pointers all game and that
never going down low seven foot or no. If he
applies himself and asserts himself, this could get bad for Indiana.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Will he do it?
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I'm gonna say, I'm fifty to fifty on the on
the fence.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
No, you're not. He's going to try to shoot out there,
he is.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
He's gonna he's going he's gonna shoot outside first before
he decides he's going to have to see if he's
missing first, before he decides he wants to smoke down.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I agree with you.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
You know, some people have said, are you guys you
know what? Is this like a Memorial Day takeover of
The Dan Patrick Show? I mean kind of, I guess.
I mean, that's what our job is here, that's what
our duty is. And apparently there's another takeover that's happening,
and it's the NFL continuing their takeover, and the takeover
is holiday and holiday action and holiday action when there
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happens to be another league who's had that holiday all
to themselves for several several years now, So much so
that Jason Kelsey was on his New Heights podcast talking
about how he's a fan of the NFL playing on
Christmas and on these major holidays and had this to say.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Now, I'm also just a fan of playing on more
primetime times like that's when I'm watching TV, and I
like you when football is on the television. So let's
keep putting good football games on television when everybody's watching.
I mean, I think it's just good for the game.
Let's keep taking over all the holidays or taking over Thanksgiving, Christmas, NBA,
you're never getting that back. I mean, it's it's that's the.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Way it is. And he's one hundred percent correct. He
ain't live. They're never getting it back.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, like what once the NFL realized, I'll wait, like
this is doable. Yeah, we're gonna go ahead and take
that too. And then it, you know, became one game
and two games, and it's just this is where we are.
And I don't know what the plan would be for
the NBA, but if you're the NFL. And by the way,
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for those of you wondering, well, it's just because you
know Christmas falls on certain days of the week.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, it's over because.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Christmas is a Thursday this year, a Friday of the
year after a Saturday after that, a Sunday a month. Like,
it's going to be a long ass time before anybody
can make the argument, well, depending on the day of
the week it falls, it's not great for the schedule
and the players. The NFL is going to take this
over and it's going to be theirs moving forward.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I mean, what else is there to say? You know,
Kelsey nailed it, and I think you put a bow
on it if it's good football. And listen, I look
at it like this during the holiday season. The one
thing that you get yourself set for during Christmas time,
pre Christmas, post Christmas and New Year is college football.
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So if we're being honest, I don't think about the
NBA on Christmas maybe Christmas Day, you're right, but I
don't think about the NBA. I think about college football,
and I think about bowl games. And now that you
have to playoff it now makes it even more intensified
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getting into that corridor of the year coming to an
end and rounding it out by having, you know, Christmas
and then New Years. So if you're putting on a
quality football game from the National Football League and that's
on Christmas.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Day, Hell, if you put two three.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Games on on Christmas Day that are quality matchups of
the National Football League, I can guarantee you guar runtee
that you're going to have a tremendously large viewing audience
of those games that are taking place.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Totally agree. Yeah, And I look at it and I
go if you're the NBA. I mean, what do you do?
Speaker 4 (19:47):
You just keep trying to chuck along, you know, chuck
them up, like like Karl Anthony Townsend.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Hope something goes in and just.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You know, like for example, you know the the Christmas
schedule for the NFL coming up this year, Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos, Chiefs, Like,
all of those are compelling matches.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I watch all three, every single one. There would have
to be a dope ass Bowl game on and that game.
I would even be switching in and out to all
the games depending on what the times that are are playing.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And I'll be honest with you, if you like, who
do you think the two worst teams in the NFL
are going to be this year?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Like if you if you had to right now, guess.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The Saints, Yeah, and maybe the Browns.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
If the Saints and the Browns are playing on Christmas,
are you watching that or an NBA game?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm watching the NFL game. I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Sorry, just I don't know. It depends.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Give me the match up of the NBA game, give
me the matchup of the NBA game, then give me
what best case scenario.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I mean, look, I mean, if you wanted, you know,
best case scenario, you know, maybe it would be a
you know, a Thunder Celtics match or no, I mean,
Tatum's going to be out for majority of the year.
So let's say Thunder Pacers NBA Finals rematch. I'm watching them.
I'm watching the Saints Browns.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm watching the Saints Browns.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
It's it sounds more interesting, it sounds more intriguing. What
what's at Steak in December for the NBA for them
NBA games?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Nothing?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
What's at Steak? I mean, We're we're heading into June,
you know what I mean? Like, we're heading into June
and basketball NBA season is still going. I don't see
there being enough importance to you.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Don't.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Again, I don't believe the NBA has a player right
now or players.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Outside of you.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Being a avid NBA fan, an avid sports fan.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I do not leave the NBA has.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
The type of player that can drive the viewership the
way that you've had it in decades past.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Let me paint this scenario for you, all right, Just
imagine the NBA to counter program does that rematch of
the NBA Finals, and it is Pacers and Thunder and
the NFL. This is a pre example. This is not
the matchup, but this is the worst. If you had
to pick the two worst teams in the league, and
the NFL rolls out Tyler Schuck versus Dylan Gabriel and
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would do better numbers than the NBA showing a rematch
of the finals.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
But I think it classically comes back to the way
the popularity has been grown and the way the popularity.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Has been built.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
National Football League has always made it a point to
make the shield the most important branding that takes place,
not to mention guys wear helmets. So you can look
at a matchup, but you'll ultimately find the reasons why
that is an intriguing matchup, even if it's two trash teams.
And it's also because the NFL doesn't play nearly as
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many games as the NBA, so it's almost these days,
which is one of the best things that the NFL
could have ever done, is these days, they've made every
game matter more and they're continuing to figure out ways
to reward the teams that take every single game and
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every single week take it seriously, like you know, you're
not sitting there like, ah, you know, well, there's more
games to be played, we will be fine. It's almost
taking on the same type of characteristics in some ways
in regard as college football. And that's the reason why
we love college football so much historically speaking of course, is.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
That you couldn't lose.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
If you lost, that meant that your season was in jeopardy,
jeopardy after one loss. Now you can lose one, maybe
even two games and get into the college football playoff
and who knows what happens there.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We had a two loss team win the championship this year.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Correct, Yeah, So at the end of the day, I
think that there's a level of intensity and that the
Shield does an excellent job of creating this intensity and
passion for consumption of the talent that's going out there
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on the days that they're playing. And you're right, you
only get so much time with the game. Like people
be going through and I'm one of them. We be
going through like like postseason, like fallout, like like withdraw
like did I love the fact that the players get
(24:56):
an opportunity to play in the UFL and try to
make it into the NFL. It does not quench my
thirst for football NFL college.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It does not.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
It still feels like there is a departure from what
life should be like when football season is not here
and to be to have been able to create that
type of buy in from a consumer, man, that's an ultimate.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Product, and it's very hard. It's very hard to.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Fight your way back from that type of established fandom
and viewership and buy in to a particular league of
particular sport.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So there's this old saying that nobody cares about your
fantasy football team. Like it just in general, when people
start complaining about their fantasy football team, it's what, like, man,
nobody cares. I don't want to hear about your fantasy team.
You know who does care about your fantasy team? The NFL,
Because I think fantasy football is as much to do
with this as anything because it's basically gambling, and it
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was the I guess the show before the gambling show
started was fantasy football. So that was sort of your
appetizer to get you into what gambling could look like.
In the NFL, these games late in the season, like
that on a Christmas you could look at a Saints
Browns matchup just for example, that's not going to be
the matchup because the NFL realizes those teams are terrible.
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That's why New Orleans and Cleveland don't have a primetime game.
But you could set that game up and there's going
to be an audience because somebody's going to have a
player from one of those teams on their fantasy team.
Somebody's going to have money invested in it. They've just
done more to make the sport presentable and interesting to people,
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even if they don't.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Have a team.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And we've talked about this before you and I grew up,
it was like you had to have a team. Who's
your team?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And now and you've made the point because of fantasy football,
it isn't about that your team is your fantasy team. Yeah,
like listen, that's cool. You know so and so places
for this team, Like he's not on my team. That's
what's important. And I think the NFL recognized that, and
the NFL has taken advantage of that. And I think
fantasy football and gambling is the biggest reason why they
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could just continued to take over because you could put
any matchup you wanted on and counter the NBA's matchup,
whatever it is, whatever interesting storyline the NBA things they have.
More people are gonna watch the NFL, because the NFL
has done a better job of making their product and
their league presentable and interesting to the consumer, and that's
why they've seen the spike in the numbers.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
And the not you can do about it. You don't
have a Michael Jordan that can combat a Walter Payton.
You don't have a Shaquille O'Neill that can combat a
Ray Lewis. You don't have a Kobe Bryant that can
combat a Peyton Manning. You don't. You don't have the
star power. And that's no shape, I promise, that's no
(28:00):
shade towards towards the you know, SGA's or the Anthony
Atwards in the league, the Jason Tatum's or whoever else
you have as the Jannis or the Jokich's. It's no shade,
I promise. They just don't have the draw that a
Shaquille O'Neill had. You had an opportunity with Shaq, You
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had an opportunity with Kobe. You had an opportunity with
mj and Scottie Pippen and even the mailman like by
by Market, you know, Magic Johnson. You had the opportunities
to have a captive audience and a large, tremendously passionate
viewing audience. When you develop those brands, but you're you're
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at the risk of having strong branded players in the
NBA versus a strong brand the Shield that continues to
prove that even if Peyton Manning leaves, even if Tom
Brady he leaves, even if any of the best of
the best players that play in the National Football League
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retire and are done, this league just continues.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
To grow more and more and more, and.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
They're finding more ways to expand and they build that
off of the brand of the Shield. And that might
have been the best asset created by the NFL owners
and and and what we've watched Paul Tagliaboo start and
and and have watched Roger Goodell continue to grow and build.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
It's just it's.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
They have created something so strong that they continue to
widen the gap between other sports, at least domestically.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
And also to your point on Goodell, I don't think
he gets enough credit because a lot of it's, you know,
it's the cool thing to do booth the commissioner, Like uh,
you know, like the cool thing to do is booth
the commissioner. You know, when when Gary Bettman comes out
on the ice, they boom in the NHL, you know,
like Rob manforgets boom And he said some dumb things
before in the past, but that's the cool thing. Goodell
(30:07):
gets booed all that stuff. The one thing you can
be critical of maybe the way he handled punishments and
the NFL having too much say when it came to
off field crimes. And you know, there was obviously the
mismanagement of the Ray Rice video and what happened afterwards.
All of that is fair criticism. He did not do
a great job. But if from a business standpoint, he's
(30:30):
hitting out of the park. Like from a business standpoint,
there's a reason why the owners re elect him every
single time because he has had an eye to that
to your point, and he has recognized there's an ability
to grow the game and to cater to an audience
that if we do that, we will far surpass any
other quote unquote competition that's out there. And I think
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that's what's happened and he deserves a lot of that
credit as well.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Well, you hit it earlier, and I just end with
this the mic drop is Goodell being able to be
able to incorporate and implement gambling and it being.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
A legal deal where you're able to do it.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
They're they're opening up sports books in in UH, in
the arenas, in the stadiums. Now, that's probably the singular
pad on the back that a boy that Roger Goodell
gets from these owners because it has probably taken revenues
up significantly, uh in terms of what they're able to
(31:30):
bring in and what what they weren't able to bring in.
But it still was out there and it's still existed Jonas.
Now they're able to bring that into their doors and
add that to their bottom line. So yeah, I mean
the things that they've done, the things that Roger Goodell
has done, have been very strategically sound, very intentional and
purpose and placing, and it's working.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
You're seeing it work.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
As you mentioned, You're you've created a larger fan base
based upon fantasy football. People who aren't even serious football
fans and still get involved with fantasy football. So and
even if it's not an aggressive way, a passionate way
of getting involved with the game, you still have people
that are passive, passive fans that are still getting involved
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with the game because fantasy football brings them together. It's
like a night of Sorry or night of Monopoly or
whatever it may be, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
So it's super smart man.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
And by the way, speaking of sorry, lead to Lap
is our executive producer here, Lee.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
How many fantasy football.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Leagues are you in each year?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
At least four, but probably closer to five. Okay, Like
he's a degenerate, I mean. And by the way, he
still hasn't paid anybody first.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I have paid them on he said he paid it all.
He said he he holds the money people.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, and if that's the league, I would never enter.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I would never enter a league where lead the Lap
holds the money for the prize winners. Just wouldn't happen.
That's a bad mistake right out the gate. You're already
off to a.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Bad starts of Lead to Lats holding the money. That
means at some point Prestige Liquor in Burbank is.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Holding the money. That is very true. But I was
just layaway. That's the bank that's holding the money.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Right by the end, I'm just holding a win and
nuts so I don't have to pay out.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, right.
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Speaker 2 (33:30):
It is time to get back into the discussion that
has run rough shot over the NFL and sports media
over the past several weeks, and it was the tush push.
Was the tush push going to be banned? Where they
going to get rid of the toush push? Well, apparently
somebody who doesn't even really play a key component to
the tush push, Saquon Barkley. He was on The Exciting
(33:53):
Mike's podcast, which is just a phenomenal name. Cooper de
Gene Reed Blank and Ship the Exciting Whites. They have
a podcast called The Exciting Like, yeah, they're called the
Exciting Whites. Oh yeah, they said it not me.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
No reason to hate on them. They are exciting and
they're white. Well there you go. Actorate.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So Saquon Barkley, their teammate, was on their podcast and
had this to say about the potential of the tush
push possibly being banned before it was overruled.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
But the banning thing of it, I think it's kind
of I think it's soft, to be honest, like the
teams that want to be in it, because everybody can
do it. Like it's not like a play that like
we only can do. Everybody can do trademark. Yeah, and
they're just we happen to have one of the best
and biggest old lines and Jalen Hurts can squat six
hundred pounds, Like that's not our fault.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Like Josh Allen is super big.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
They're not successful with it.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Lamar Jackson is one of the best running quarterbasketball time.
They're not successful with it.
Speaker 9 (34:53):
So it's not something that like everyone can't do, so
like them trying to eliminate it. It's just like I
think that's kind of lane.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, soft asses trying to get rid of the tush
push think about that Ibar that.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I mean, he's not wrong. If you can't beat them,
join them.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
So basically what you're saying is is that that and
that play in that formation. The Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger,
badder asses than you are everybody who's against it. All
you're basically saying is you're conceding the fact that the
Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger, and better at doing this
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play than any other team, and we don't want to
see them do it because it's an unfair advantage to
the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I can I ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
If the Titans did the tush push, is there even
a discussion about it getting banned? I think part of
this is because it's Philly, and because they're a bit
obnoxious at times, and they're a bit boisterous at times
about how they do things.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
And you got their head.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Coach calling it first and nine whenever they get the ball,
because they're just going to get that final yard.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
If it was if it was fire, it's great.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
But if it was and if it was Tennessee or
or another organization that wasn't as lowed. I don't even
think this is even being talked about. I don't I
don't think people would care.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I think it is, and I think it is talked
about just because of the nature of the play, but
the intensity of it. The different storylines that have resonated
from it are purely because it's Philadelphia. It's purely because
it's Nick Sirianni. It's it's purely because of UH, this
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team being UH that it fits the reputation of the
city of brotherly love. So to me, I think it's
a perfect storm play for the market, for the team,
what Philly represents.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
I mean, it's a tough, gritty, hard knows you know city.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Anybody who knows about Philadelphia, they know about the different
boroughs and the different different areas you know of a Philadelphia,
the suburbs, the inner city parts. They know about all
of it, and everybody has a certain way of how
things are done. And most would say, most would say
(37:28):
that it is a very very edgy, very gritty type
of place. So this play is the perfect fit for
what the Philadelphia Eagles represent to their fan base. So
I don't know, man, I tend to agree with Sakwon though.
If you got such an issue with it and you
feel like it's it's not a stoppable play, why don't
(37:51):
you adopt first and nine?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Why don't you adopt.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
The ability to be able to run the toush push
knowing that you can get one yard at least one
yard when you need it, whenever you need to get it.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Why wouldn't you adopt that first and nine? That's what I mean, Great,
it's great putting it on the table.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Say this is what we're doing. Dare you, we dare
you to try and stop it. This is what we're doing.
It's first to nine, just so you know, like it.
But I and I watch it and I go this
has really become the biggest talking point of the NFL
off season as far as on the field stuff goes.
And it was this and then it turned.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Into this heated debate where you've got you know, Jeffrey Lorie,
you know, doing a comparison to a teenage boy's.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Wet dream and all that.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like Philly's just they're in a place right now where
they know they're the champs. They're going to let everybody
know they're the champs. And I think next year they're
going to go out of their way to make an
example of people with this play. And we brought up
the possibility of this. Oh yeah, but we brought up
the possibility this on our show that they open up
(39:03):
the NFL season against the Cowboys. I would not surprise me.
The first chance they get first down, say it their
own twenty five thirty yard line, and they're just gonna
go tush push on the first play of the season,
just to stick it to the league and stick it
to everybody else's, Saquan pointed out, you know all the
lame asses out there who are soft enough to vote
(39:24):
against it, Like I think that's the way Philly's gonna
handle this, Like they know, Look, we may be on
borrow time. Eventually, they're gonna want to try and get
this taken out of the game. While we've got it,
Let's go ahead and stick it to everybody for as
long as we can.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Feels like something they would do. That feels like an
Eagles move.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
I mean, why wouldn't you. And it don't look like
they slowing up. Look at what they they're doing personnel wise,
like they ain't slowing up. So don't think that they're
just going to go quietly into that good night.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
They're not. You're gonna have to deal with us, you know,
I mean them.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
You know, I'm Pittsburgh, dude, but I do love Pa
and I do rep Philly. You're gonna have to deal
with the Eagles, man, And that's just it is what
it is. They have a very very nice like this
is what you got to say, because you can't limit
them to just being one play, right, The Philadelphia Eagles
just won the Super Bowl. People like quick reminder, they
(40:26):
just won and they knocked off them boys, and I
ain't talking about Dallas. So when you look at what
they've been able to pool together, and it hasn't come
void of drama, hasn't come void of adversity. But adding
Saquon to this team was the single biggest move in
(40:49):
all of the National Football League in my estimation, having
what they already had on the defensive side of the
ball and continuing to add as some of the guys
like Brandon Graham retiring some of these guys leaving. They
are so deep with talent that looking at them, it's
(41:11):
almost crazy to think that most of these guys are
literally on rookie contracts, man and having the ability to
grow your team and figure out where to to you know,
mix and match or where to fill in and plug
in the gap. They're not just plugging in the gap
with serviceable players. They're plugging in the gap with guys
(41:35):
that are coming out of college that are perennial Pro Bowlers,
perennial All pros, just talented players. So the storyline is
much bigger than one play With Philadelphia, it just becomes
a funny story, a funny conversation if you ask me,
because it's almost like you, you know, the people who
are having such an issue with this play. It's almost
(41:56):
like you have an issue with the Philadelphia Eagles or
somebody that's a part of the philip Maybe it's Big
Dom you got an issue with.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
I don't know who it is, but you got an.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Issue, and you're trying to paint this picture like the
Philadelphia Eagles are only good because of one play. You
could not be further from the truth of reality in
terms of what this team represents. It is a well
built team. It's turned into a well oiled machine. Jonas
so to say it's one one play, like, oh you
(42:25):
do away with the toush push, You're doing away with
the Philadelphia Eagles success. Yeah, try that one. Try that
one out. See how that one ages. And I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Because you're a you're a brander, all right, You're you're
all about branding and uh and you know, putting, putting
a stamp on things to make it official.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
And get it coverage and making it grow.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Yeah, we're talking about stick Cicky stick City, Logger stick City.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, getting get a little logger here soon. But it's
coming like, uh, if you're Anthony.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Barr okay and you're something for well.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I mean he came up with it and he's nowhere
to be found. Like he's the inventor of the tush push.
And this was back when you know, he was with
the Vikings in twenty eighteen. He's a linebacker. He's not
even on offense. It's his idea, it's his brainchild, and
he gets none of the love, like, none of the
credit whatsoever. If I'm Anthony Barr, I'm pissed. This is
(43:22):
my invention.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
What you're going to get out of it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Can he get like anything?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Way, No, you can't. You can't.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
You can't make money off of a play like I mean,
it would be cool if he got money every time
it was. You know, if he was smart enough to
maybe purchase the rights to the name. I wouldn't be
surprised if the name is still available. Somebody might be
looking it up right now and parking it. It might
still be available, because you just wouldn't assume that you could,
(43:53):
you know, monetize.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
I mean I preferred the brotherly shove personally, but you know,
the tush push.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
You know, people you know teach their own. That's what
that's what they like. But what was the official original though?
Do we know?
Speaker 4 (44:07):
I don't know that he gave it. Did he give
it a name or did he just say this type
of play? You can't because I remember hearing the audio
of him saying it on the sideline, But did he
give it a play in particular? Like like, for instance,
why am I blinking on his name, the defensive end,
big defensive end, Deacon Deacon? Why was I blanking on
(44:32):
Deacon Jones? All right, Deacon Jones comes up with the sack, right,
and he coined it. He coined the phrase sack the sack,
and they started keeping it. As they said, Deacon Jones
might have had two three hundred sacks. Nobody knew about
it because they didn't keep that stack. And they started
(44:53):
keeping the stat after he was talking about sacking the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So if you did it in that way, I see.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
I don't know if if Deacon Jones was making money
off of the words sack, But imagine every single time
they said the word sack, he got a residual from it.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I mean, that would be pretty dope. I don't know
if that exists here.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
In this situation, he just watched Bruce Smith games and
get paid every time every time Bruce made a play.
There's a lot of them out here, man. Sacks are what.
Sacks are just as good as it's like a number
two ranking of a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I would assume a sack is it's up there. It's
up there. I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
The most prized defenders these days are guys that get sacks,
maybe even more so than interceptions. I would say more
so than interceptions.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
If you just you could have, you'd be playing an
awful game. If you got one sack a game that
made your game, Like you're going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
That makes your game.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
You can if you can touch their one a quarterback
one time in a game and they say sack, you've
done well.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
That's a that's a brutal existence for an offensive lineman, though,
Like you shut a guy out for ninety nine percent
of the game, but he got that one time and
because of that he's going to the Hall of Fame.
I mean, if you average one sack of game, that's
seventeen sacks, right, seventeen eighteen games is seventeen seventeen seventeen sacks.
(46:23):
Bro you get seventeen sacks and you have a ten
year career. You do that, Matt, I mean it won
every two games, and you have a ten year career,
you're approaching hundred sacks. You got a shot at being
going to the Hall of Fame. That's it's crazy, man like.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
I mean, you're in the conversation.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
So listen to Anthony Barr. We're trying, welcome, trying to
get you pays wet you some. We tried all right,
but the agens up taking it over.
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