Best of the Week: 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Trey Hendrickson and Terry McLaurin finally get paid, ending their hold-ins. Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift get engaged. And Jerry Jones displays gross mismanagement by trading Micah Parsons to the Packers!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
with lamar As rating Win and Jonas Knox on four Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It was just head banging in the studio. It was
very impressive. Actually, yeah yet I don't know, not yet.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Pay attention, Yeah, but it could be. You gotta pay attention.
Is it? Is it delivery Wednesdays or Tuesdays?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh? Yeah? Is it? I'm on my.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Dad's Couchary kind of depends day, isn't it kind of
depends that doesn't Yeah it does.

Speaker 6 (00:41):
Aren't They all delivery Wednesdays?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
In the end, it's going to be a show.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (00:48):
That was my first head banging in a while. My
hair's gotten finally long again, so feels good.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, Lee, Did you sleep in your bed last night?
Or did you sleep on your couch? Or did you
sleep on carol Mom's couch.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
It was a mixed match. It was the old man's
couch and then my bed, so little little split time.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
What's the difference between Carol Mom and your dad's couch?

Speaker 6 (01:14):
She's dad, Cara is long gone, God bless.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
All right, all right, what's your mom's name?

Speaker 6 (01:21):
My mom's name is Lady.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Lady, So ladies lady's couch. You were on ladies couch.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Ladies out of town, ladies in Hawaii this week.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
So did y'all Like, what do you mean you did both?
I was.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
I was hanging out with the old man. I've been
keeping him company because ladies out of town and Hawaii
for vacation with the girls, and so I'm hanging out
with the old man. So I was kicking it with him,
watching some movies, sleeping on the couch. And then I
woke up and was like, I need to go home.
I'm getting out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
So you did it by choice, not by not by
the man.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
Correct a mundo?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Okay, So yeah, you were good. You were welcomed home
kindly when you got home.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
That is correct. Yep, everything's good at on the old
home front.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Quiet, it's quiet in the Western front.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
You've been drinking lye. I wish no I can tell
what stop you're stumblingly? I like registration, Lee, All right,
you can set up the show now, Jones. I know
what time, And I'm not going to get frustrated with
Lee today. I had nothing to say. I got all

(02:30):
the information on the You've.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Been drinkingly watch his registration.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
You were Lane. Can you please stand over here, sir.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I told you if anybody wants to pony up and
get it, get a breathalyzer test for the show. I
think that would be fun for everybody involved. I mean,
just do what we got.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's crazy. That would be interesting. See how many times
he pops hot or blows hot. Yeah, I gotta get
my knee drained. Guys, Oh, no, I know, man, I
did this march on the soccer game. I stood the
whole game. I've been walking around campus. I I spoke

(03:17):
to to Penn State sports staff yesterday yesterday, Yeah, yesterday,
day before Monday, Monday. Then well that was Monday yesterday. Yeah.
I've been doing a lot of walking, and I realized
this morning when I pushed my my quad, my VMO
and all that stuff, it is super super jelly field.

(03:42):
I'm gonna have to go find an emergency room and
get my knee drained. Go figure.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
I saw your knees the other day when you showed me,
Uh it was something you like working out.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Right, No, that would not have been me. That would
have been I.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Mean they're coming about, you know, the legs. Maybe there's
no way.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I showed you my legs five hour energy. Oh yeah,
said that's right, that's right, that's right. And you said
do the legs if you recall, Yeah, do how little
my legs are? You said, dude, do your legs?

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Legs? I was like, you need to do two more legs.
So this is a chronic issue for you or what's happening?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, my my left because those.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Things are so skinny, Like I like, what is it
looking swollow up?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Oh, it's swollen.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
It just looks legs. It would it would help it
or hurt it worse.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I don't think it would do anything because my legs
are just my legs. They've always been little. I've gotten
accused of being a wheelchair football player at times, like
there have been a lot of very cruel and mean
jokes made about how little my legs are.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, I'm not trying to do that this morning either.
I'm just surre well, thank you. I just but it
I feel like right now, well, it does feel like
they've been neglected over the year. Is like, if you're
trying to really messed up, you're taking the women's soccer
team a Jonas.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Do you see what he's doing. See what he's doing.
I'm just saying I feel like that's around place to
place like Jonas does. I wouldn't need legs, but I
do need my legs.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
I don't think you need to blame women's soccer players
for your knees.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
I need some bat wings, is what I need, so
I need get around better. But hey, you know it
is what it is. Something. Now, the bigger my belly gets,
the worse it looks because I have little legs. I
don't have Yes, I don't have legs. I don't have

(05:49):
legs to offset my belly. So it's like it's just
the it's the worst. And now I haven't been working out,
so my arms get puny. At least I could have
like big arms, big belly, little legs. I got little arms,
big belly, little legs, so I look like the from that. Damn,
my arms aren't short. And t rexes have big legs,

(06:13):
by the way, like they have little arms. Lorena, let
you just stay out of it. You stay out of this.
Don't try to call me a dinosaur, like what anyway
t rex could be considered Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
How about yeah, there, you.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Got that shit it you get it, you know Rex
and the U.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
In the words of p Rex Pete Prisco.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, they all show all show up.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Away. What I tell you boys, show well. He was
already there. He was. He was already there. So is
Terry McLaurin. They were both there. They were going to
show up, but we don't know what they weren't.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
But uh, yeah, the Trey Hendrickson details are as such,
not an extension, but he does get a little bit
of a bump. Trey Hendrickson gets a bump on this
year of fourteen million dollars that's going to push him
to the thirty million dollar range on the season. He's
still set to become an unrestricted free agent after the year,

(07:21):
but at least he does get that extra fourteen.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Yeah, he basically got them to pay fourteen million more,
which is a long departure from his productivity the past
couple of years and getting him close to some of
those other defensive players. I mean, remember TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett.
Those guys are in the ballpark at forty one to
forty million per year average annual value. So if you
thought that this is what is holding up the Micah Parsons,

(07:47):
you know contract, It's not like this is nowhere even
close to where Parsons is going to be. The Parsons
Jerry Jones contracts being held up purely by Jerry Jones
because that's how he does business, That's how he does things.
So this is a if you're looking at Trey Hendrickson
and his agent, I don't know what their expectations were

(08:07):
for a deal or a contract, but this has to
be a huge disappointment. And I'm sure, look, I'm sure
there's Bengals fans who would be out there and be like,
see the kid, pay them all. They got it all done.
So yeah, you're right, they got it all done. But
this is kicking the road. Uh He'll they'll you know,
go their separate ways after this season, which is unfortunate

(08:29):
because I think Trey Hendrickson still has a lot of
good football left in him. But for the Bengals, the
retting's kind of already on the wall. They drafted Schmart Stewart,
they have, you've got his replacement in house. This is
probably best for them to allow schmar Stewart to come
along as an edge rusher, given how long it took
them to do a great terms and for Trey Hendrickson,

(08:50):
he gets a pay bump, gets tough out there and
play for a year, then proved hopefully maybe to someone
else that they can actually pay him, you know, like
other teams out there. But I'd asked, you know, Lee
for some sound. This was actual earlier, I think either
Friday last week or Monday. But I'm not sure what
he's doing right now. So sure you get there trying
to sober up.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Not sure, I'm not sure that's the you know, maybe
send over the specific sound because I don't see Lee
anywhere inside.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Where is Lee? I think he's making a sound right now.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Actually is that sound a fart?

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Or is he actually doing Look, he's making a sound.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
He was he was just here, he he was gone. Yeah,
he's in another studio, which makes sense if the show's
in the studio.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I am one of those guys that thoughts.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Don't get it the way have things ready getting another studio.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
My first message to you guys in the text message
chain was now Jerry will move to get Micah done.
I am one of those guys that think that, whether
right or wrong, I think that Jerry Jones does not
did not want to be a couple in or boxed
in by another guy at the same position getting a

(10:05):
deal done. I think that plays a part in it.
How big of a part, I don't know. I still
felt like it. You know, this is a personal thing
between him and Mike's agent. How true that is, I
don't know. I do think that the fundamental thought that
he does it when he wants to do it, and
that's when he does it. That's probably that. That probably

(10:26):
is the end result of it all. But I will
say this was one of the most underwhelming conclusions to
a I'm waiting for my contract situation. You know, the
fact that Hendrickson is such the same age as TJ.
Watt and TJ Watt gets rewarded now, granted TJ. Watt

(10:50):
is a Pittsburgh Steeler, And I'll come back to that
and say, I do not believe that you can say
Tree Hendrickson is a Cincinnati Bangle, even though the production
says he's the man for the Cincinnati Bengals. He's just
not a draft guy for them. And it's just, you know,
maybe they looked at it more so as we have

(11:12):
a stop gap for now that we're not going to
want to pay and for what it's worth. You know,
the information that that queue disseminated the other day kind
of drives home the point maybe it doesn't even matter
if you're a Cincinnati Bengal because even if they're putting
you in the Ring of Fame, you know they're not
going to pay for your flight, that they're not going

(11:33):
to put you up, and they're not going to take
care of you. So what the hell does it matter
to be a great for the Cincinnati Bengals anyway, To
all you fans out there, your your your your, your franchise,
it's cheap there, there's no way around it. You could
call it what you want to call it. You can
make the excuses you want to make. But I find

(11:56):
that to be very, very very telling. At some point.
What this says to me is that when when your
boy comes back, when Joe Burrow comes back and is
inducted into the Ring of Fame, they don't even plan
on paying for his trip or putting him up to
receive his award. I gotta ask TJ, because I know

(12:19):
TJ got into the Ring of Fame or something. He
was honored by the Cincinnati Bengals at one time. I
gotta ask him was his expenses covered? And if they were,
I gotta understand why was boomers a Siasin singled out
to be the one that has to cover his charges
to be a feature attraction for the Bengals team. Anyway,

(12:44):
I digress. I just think this isn't you know, super underwhelming?

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Man, You're on a great track, because that was a
sound I was hoping to pull from and just and again.
And here's the nuance of the conversation. And this is
what Bengals fans would say and defends of their organization
is that if we can get a player like Trey
Hendrickson to come play for us for eleven million less
next year than what TJ. Watt's making, then kudos to

(13:10):
our owner and to our front office because we're getting
a very productive, great player at value. And a lot
of people took issue with me saying, you know, comparing
them to the Browns, where the Browns will throw money
at pretty much everyone, or Miles Garrett for example, who's
making ten million more, and they'll say, well, you know,
compared to that, what they're missing on guys. You're missing

(13:31):
the point then, because the Browns at some point will
be able to turn the corner. If Jimmy Hasl's got
deep enough pockets to keep this thing going. Eventually they'll
find a quarterback. Eventually they'll have a roster that's build
on around them and they'll retain that talent. This is
an example of the Bengals organization that great. They get
to keep Trey Hendrickson for one year, then he moves on, Well,

(13:52):
Schamar Stewart build to replace his productivity. We don't know,
He's gonna have a nice year to learn and grow
and you know, even play with Trey Hendrickson will see
where things go from there. But who knows what happens
down the road with t Higgins or another. And you wonder,
are they truly willing to spend the money in this
window of time with Joe Burrow to go win a

(14:13):
Super Bowl? Because it does take cash, It takes money,
It takes the ownership willing to spend a lot of
dough on a roster with signing bonuses over just the
salary and not having to get in these disputes every offseason.
So it's a distraction for your team. You know who
never has distractions in their contract negotiations. The Philadelphia Eagles

(14:37):
just so happened to win the super Bowl, just so
happens they have the best roster probably in the NFL.
So how about that for the Bengals fans that think
every time we make a reference to them being cheap,
we use a team that's not cheap. In fact, just
traded to have not only what they I believe to
be a good number two in Tanner McKee, who had
a great preseason and training camp, but also for Sam Howe,

(15:00):
because Howie Roseman seems to look at his roster and say,
you know, Jalen Hurst just want us a super Bowl,
but God forbid anything happens to him. We've seen this
before here in Philly, and we had a guy named
Nick Foles who win us a super Bowl. So let's
have Tanner McKee, Let's have Sam hell let's have any
guy at any position we think we need to have
in order to stockpile our roster to be able to
go win a super Bowl because injuries are going to happen.

(15:22):
It's a seventeen game season now, and then should it'll
be eighteen games. There's just different styles of ownership, and
I hate to admit it to you guys, but there's
a there's a right way and wrong way of doing things,
and I'm not saying that. You know, Look, they ended
up paying him, you know, extra fourteen million. Some people
were like, hey, he's under contract anyway, they should have
paid him anything. Well, then you can side with you know,

(15:44):
you know, a billionaire owner. I'm gonna side with the player.
I think Trey Hendrickson has proved his party. He should
have got paid even more. But I do I would
love to hear the sound of Boomera Asaya say. If
Lee's alive at this point, we'd be for the love
of God, we do that. We've vamped as long as
we can play. LeVar brought it up, he did his part.

(16:04):
I'm trying my best to get you there late.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Lee.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Are you alive?

Speaker 7 (16:07):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (16:08):
Lee?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Oh gosh, no, he's here.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
He's just not here.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
By say looking for the sound.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
We got the sound.

Speaker 8 (16:18):
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Speaker 4 (16:33):
Hold On hold on.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
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Speaker 6 (16:37):
A block of rooms.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Usually when people say a block of rooms, it's like
a wedding thing and you have to go on there
and say, I'm part of this party.

Speaker 8 (16:44):
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Speaker 3 (16:55):
The Ring of Honor weekend.

Speaker 8 (16:56):
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Speaker 3 (17:11):
Thank you? And who dai whoday?

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Why?

Speaker 6 (17:14):
Who they think they are?

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Maybe you pay for your own a cell room.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
That's what I would say.

Speaker 8 (17:18):
You think I'm an elitist if I if I say
no to that, I mean look.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
For that to even be a conversation from boomer asiasin
Boomer a sizin like that is so damning in so
many different ways. If you ask me, I don't know,
you say side with the player versus side with with

(17:45):
the organization? Well, I side with super Bowls like, how
many Super Bowls do they have in Cincy? Oh? Okay,
something they they doing something right. I'm sorry, something is
not being done correctly because count how many count how
many rings the organization has, but count how many amazing

(18:07):
football players they've had through the years. That's all I say.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I mean, listen, I think, uh, I think it was
kind of them to offer that discounted rate.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
I mean, I don't know why we have to complain
about it.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Right, Let's say you know this is I mean, that's
how you celebrate a legend. You know, you offer them
a discounted rate if they want to come in and
be truly appreciated for all their work there within the organization.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Way.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
TJ is not in the Ring of honor. He most
likely was going to see Chad Johnson, who did get inducted.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
He got a jacket whatever it was. Now it may
not be a ring of honor, but it's something maybe
greatest Cincinnati Bengal or something he got they got. He
got a jacket, they presented him with jackets. I don't
I don't know what the honor is because I really
don't care about the Cincinnati Bengals. But but it was
some type of an honor. I do. I do recall

(18:58):
seeing it, you know, him, and who else was there?
I don't even remember. I think maybe Corey Dillon was there.
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Diana Rossini did report of the Athletic that Trey Hendrickson
the Bengals had offered him a three year, ninety five
million dollar deal, but that they rejected it because there
was no guaranteed money past the first year. So you know,
I don't know what that does for anybody, but that's
sort of where things are at with Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I mean, hey, I'm with LeVar.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I was expecting him to really dig his feet in
and stand his ground, and then ultimately it was like,
here's an extra fourteen million dollars, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
You in side, set up, shut up and play. Yeah
all right, oh wait, this is a white player. Never mind,
I can't use that one. Damn what a let's see
take your money and play? How about is that better?
And it always seems to be in Ohio when that happens.
I mean, it was the door and it was Cleveland

(19:58):
like with or not clear even, but it was Lebron James.
So there you go. It's it's kind of a consistent
theme for for your hometown, Bradie, you know, shut up
and play well.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
First off, Cincinnati's not my hometown, all right. I do
not claim Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Your home state, your home state, my bad.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
But you've got very contrasting, you know, parts of the state,
like Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Since that is true.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Very different. Columbus is very different.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's fair, that's fair.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
That'd be like comparing Philly to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Pittsburgh and they are so not the same, and there
you go, so not.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
There you go. Yah, Cleveland, Cleveland fans would not appreciate.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
We don't claim each other. Yeah, that's fair, all right.
I rock with that. That's I rock with that. But
Cleveland was where, you know, the whole thing with Lebron
went down.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Though Cleveland, We'll rock with this.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Wasn't the owner. Wasn't the owner caught up in all
that that stuff?

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah, Dan Gilbert, Yeah, caught up in what.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
I don't know, the conversations around Lebron.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
And there was never really a contract dispute. It was
more of again like was he going to do what
he needed to do to build out around him? And
I think that was some of the frustration of you know,
that era of basketball where the Big Three became Okay,
you know, so he went down to Miami, won a
couple of championships, got experience, you know. Yeah, well, yeah

(21:26):
he did do that. Well, yeah, it could have been
worded better. I think we can all agree on that.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Right, Jonathan, Yeah, it could have been handled yeah, different.
I think he could have done a better job.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
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Speaker 4 (22:46):
By the way, I did get word that we will
have new.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Opens by the start of football season, the NFL season coming.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Up next Thursday.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
You know, just kind of mix things up a little bit.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
I just gonna say, has already started, dude, Yeah, NFL
LA already.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm with you, man. I'm a football guy through and through.
That started in training camp for me, late lovers. But
so I am efforting a new intro song and uh, well,
because that's important based on well, but based on what
you guys rolled out the last couple of times, I
think I need to step up and and really try

(23:28):
and make this.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Work for everybody.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
You know, I will give you a sneak preview of
mine because I've already already submitted mine. That's how fast
I can get this done. Jonas not one of those
guys where it takes, you know, flip an hour. It's
very fitting for being football season. I'll just kind of
put okay, yeah, interesting, it's a great theme music for

(23:52):
like football, you know that I'm talking about. But you
guys wild like it?

Speaker 4 (23:56):
What you got var you got anything in the anything.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I don't plan on switching mine up. I really really
liked my song for right now, you know, no, just
really do. I just like it. You know, I'll never
let you guys pressure me. Guys, you guys are not
close enough to me an age to pressure me, and
I just stand on my business. If I choose a song,
I go with the song, whether you guys like it

(24:21):
or not. I know, I know. Q is only a
one week type of guy. You know. I could tell
how girls when he was in high school, like you know,
she she got the kiss, even got his chain week one,
and then for some reason that that chain broke apart
and turned to like corrosion and he was out. He
didn't realize they didn't realize that he was giving away

(24:42):
fake change, like like candy balls to the Georgiana. You know,
he know it's only one that got the real chain,
you know, much like Kelsey and and take.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, I can, can I ask you guys a question?
And I look, maybe I've got a blow spot on this.
I literally couldn't care.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Less that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Got engaged and I was second that. I but the
coverage it's gotten, it should get coverage. Why because they're
both famous and and it's two worlds that have collided.
I mean, this is a little bit more than Jesse
James and and who did who did he marry? Who
was that that young lady he married again? Like she

(25:27):
was famous to I mean, it's a little bit bigger
than this, Like this is like this potentially could be
the biggest union between two different worlds from the NFL.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
You remember the best of the football player.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
For the Eric Decker. Didn he marry something?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
The girl's name Jesse James Denver met Denver? Yeah, I
mean I know they were both famous, you know, I
don't know she was like some TV Stars. She's a singer,
Eric Decker. Jesse James is the singer. Eric Decker was
the player. Yeah, okay, there you go. Yeah, I had
a little mixed up. I'm thinking of Jesse James or
Jesse James. You know, Penn State has a Jesse James. Anyway,

(26:11):
when has there ever been a really really like when
has there been a very successful kind of you know,
merging like that? I mean, they made this the first
the first family of you know, of the NFL.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, I can think of one. I can think of
one who did it the right way, the real Pete
and Holly Ross. I would say, I didn't realize she
was in Howard the duck Man.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I would say. I would say Brady Quinn and Alicia Sacramony.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Again, that would be mine. I don't But again, no offense.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I don't. I know she's a I know she's an Olympian.
I just ain't up on her like that, you know
what I mean. But then again, I'm not up on
Jesse James all like that either. I don't know who
a lot of people are. I know who Tate is,
I do, I mean, I know who they are. Then
there's probably that's interesting because I really don't pay attention
to people.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
You know, you have a Hall of Famer maybe the
greatest tight end to do it. I don't know. Some
people would probably argue that in this era, some people
who are older wouldn't. And then you've got one of
the greatest entertainers we've ever seen, you know, and their union.
So here's the thing is, I don't mind talking about
it because it's it's interesting that this actually worked out.

(27:28):
Typically when these two things come together, there's a period
of time where it works and then it doesn't. And
just speaking from like my experience and marrying someone who
you know, contrary to what LeVar thinks like that when
you're an Olympic gymnast, like they don't want to.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
And I don't want to be a contrary, don't don't.
I'm not a qualifier. She's probably super dope, super famous.
I just don't, you know, don't put that on me.
Would you're Brady Quinn? You had to do it, like
it had to be a dope one. So good.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
But they have a huge following, especially when you come
off an Olympic team, and so much so they tour.
You know, there's there's like they're on their own tour
like they're gone, like they're gone for I don't know,
three four months, touring around the country, doing different stuff
going on with that. So like again there's there's all

(28:19):
sorts of stuff, but my general point.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Is that you know what was successful.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
Once that all ends. I mean, I can stop if
you want. I mean, I don't know what you're saying
or getting your knees rained, a we drunk, like what's
going on?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
No, No, I'm I'm I'm supportive. I'm saying I would
love to have a wife that travels and tours and
and does her own thing for three to four months.
I was right, I was co signing you go ahead.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
You're not even listening to that because I'm not even
saying that that's what she was doing now. I'm saying
that's what they did then. And so my whole point
of what I'm trying to say, if you could let
me talk, is that this works now because he is playing,
he does have his schedule, he does have his other focus.
She's got her or she's still saying she's still performing.
What really becomes interesting about these relationships is when it

(29:05):
gets to a certain point when it's more about the kids.
It's more about the family element of it, and you
kind of got to sacrifice a lot of what you're
doing that's made you a star or a superstar in
this case in regards to Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift
and how they handle that transition, because it's an individual
transition that becomes really difficult.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
So I'm just.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Happy they made it to this point. But like, once
he's done, yes, they have the podcast and there'll be
other things. You know, she can tour and do this forever, right,
like she can be an entertainer and do what she's
doing forever. You know, he's you know, to be at home.
He's gonna probably be it around the kids and stuff
if they want to do that, and who knows, maybe
he doesn't want kids, but if they do take a

(29:51):
break from it, all is she gonn wanna stop doing
that all? I mean, you look at Tom Brady and
Gazelle Bunch and there's a lot again we don't know
all the details, but he wanted to keep playing, and
she was getting to a point where it's like she's
wanted to raising the kids and she's got her own
things going on, but she wasn't as busy as she
once was when they first met, modeling and everything else
she was doing. So I find it interesting that it's

(30:14):
working now and like they're together and you know, we'll
see what happens. But it's like at some point there'll
be some stretches on like the whole stardom that brought
them together. Sometimes I start them too as what kind
of breaks you apart?

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I mean, it is just an engagement. I've been engaged twice,
I've been married once. You go.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
I'm just saying, you.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Know, man, man, Joselle was a little busy though, Like
she was learning that tabo, you know, learning that jiu jitsu,
you know what I mean. She was learning them escape techniques,
you know that didn't escape from dars choke. I'm just saying,
you gotta be able to defend yourself out there these days. Man,
it's a dangerous world. That was a hell of a pool.

(30:54):
I was trying to think of colliding and clashing industries.
That that was the best. That's probably the best one.
Giselle and Tom Brady, that's a good one, you know.
And I'm not drunk, Q I'm not drunk. My knee
feels amazing. Can I be happy that my knee feels okay?

Speaker 5 (31:12):
I'm just well we also, can you announce the the
amount of ccs that are taking out of it?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
You you hit, you hit. We weren't even close. I
said eight close. I said that to Doc. Doc was like,
if it was eight c c's, he wouldn't have drained it.
It was Brady hit it, I.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
Believe Whens Whens.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, he hit it, he hit it, beat that thing up.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
It was forty c c's. Man, that was a lot.
I could have filled up a bag that you put
in the boob area. You know what I mean. I
want to dump that. I want to dump that.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
So forty c seeds. What would that fill up?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Like?

Speaker 4 (31:50):
What would that like?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
A syringe? A big one, A big, big one of
those syringe thing of the jiggy's. So and apparently I
had been doing some activities because it was it was
really it looked disgusting. I don't want to get into detail.
I don't want to gross people out. But it wasn't
It wasn't pretty. It wasn't a pretty deal. But let
me tell you something. When they alleviate that that pressure

(32:13):
from your knee and put that steroid in there to
calm it down. You ain't lying. It takes you back
to those moments prior to going out there on the
football field when they have that long line that they
wonder about, why is there this long line coming out
of this room and through those doors and all the
way down the locker room, and then you see guys

(32:36):
walking out and they look like a different man. I
received the nectar of the Gods yesterday. I feel I'm
not slunching slouching over today. My back feels pretty good.
I mean, that thing conquers all I got about. Man,
about eight nine more hours of like literally a little

(33:00):
bit of pain. It's like the first time I felt
pretty good in like a couple of months. So yeah,
I'm happy. That's all. I came in hot today because
your boy's happy. So there you go.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Well, they congratulated. What do they call her Tata?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I mean that's what perfect called her. I don't I've
never heard that, but I thought that was interesting. We
just turned anything ghetto, don't we. I mean, we can't
just let her be Taylor. Somebody had to go ahead
and do it.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Cuts Yeah, I didn't sound all that ghetto.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Somebody was gutsy enough to make Taylor Swift a ghetto name.
Ta ta hey Ta ta.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I mean, I did hear Mariott Travis Tita he got
experience with Taita's. I was listening to Uh, I was
listening to uh Petru's talk about it yesterday on the
Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports, and uh, yeah he was.
He was pointing out, it really shows a wide range
h for Travis Kelcey based on what he was accustomed

(34:00):
to and what he has ended up with getting engaged to,
so uh, two different worlds.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
You know. You know, she seemingly, you know, doesn't want
to pay any bills, you know, wants to be supported
based off of her looks, not my words hers. And
I just found it to be kind of curious that
she happened to be a black lady talking like that.
I didn't thought. I didn't think it was a great
representation of our black women out there. Shots out to

(34:29):
my black women out there, Black women, if you fall
on the side, I'm gonna get up and go to work.
I've seen a lot of diversations since I've been up here. Yeah,
standing ovation for Lee. I don't know what that Lee needs.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
A sugar mama.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Lee needs a sponsor, and not he needs a different
type of sponsor, one that can talk to him and
tell him about his experiences. But were, Yeah, I ain't
you know, I ain't really feel like that was the
right situation for Travis Kelsey because he was walking down
a lane that was going getting caught up, you know
what I mean. But now, I mean, he's the one

(35:09):
that's going to have to be wondering and worrying about
if it doesn't work out, what happens and who gets what,
and him having you know, emotional and financial support and
just needing to have the things that are necessary when
you get used to a certain lifestyle. It's going to
be him that's all going to be on the right
side of the coin for once.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
By the way, yeah, Brady mentioned this, she could do
this gig forever. She's what thirty five you got, you
got there, so.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
She doesn't have to do it ever again.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
You've got Yeah, but you've got acts that are returning
in their sixties that are making millions on the road,
and she's already what a billionaire, plus.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
She's making more than a believes together right now, crazy
not even away she's in her bed somewhere, Tuck been
nice and comfortable sleep making more than all of us
put the whole entire show put together right now.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
It will be interesting to see if she, you know,
continues to stay on the path she's on, like if
she wants to keep doing it because she hasn't been enough,
or she'd be fine. But you know, people always say that, like, oh,
they got enough money, and people who have that sort
of money are like, I want more enough, Like it's
never enough. It's never enough. The best joke I heard
about this relationship, this union if you will with someone

(36:32):
said this pre nup will be longer than any book
Travis Kelsey has ever read The Geez.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
I don't find that to be insulted. I really don't,
because there's going to be a lot of clauses, a
lot of outs, a lot of poison pills, a lot
of nope this that the other you leave with what
you came? Would I leave? Would I'd be like you think?
I just you know it. Marriage changes things, man, It

(37:03):
just changes things, like speak person you love and the
person you love in dating and even being engaged, and
even that first couple of weeks of marriage that is
not the person that you d up being down the line.
I'm just saying, not saying that it's a bad thing.
I'm just saying it's different. And if you don't know
how to adjust, which athletes learn to adjust, Some people

(37:25):
learn to adjust. You got to be able to adjust
because they turned from something different than what they were
when you when you met them. I mean pre kids especially,
Huh what do they turn into? It depends, you know,
if anybody knows about which sometimes you have kids before. Yeah,

(37:48):
but Chewie was a cool dude. Chew we didn't have
no problems. You got to go to like a Grimlin
or something like that. Like you know, Gizmo was a
really really nice little monster. Gizmo was was played in.
He was lovable, he was cool. But what happens if
he got wet and it went what beyond midnight or

(38:09):
something like that.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
To a Grimlin, Huh, don't feed them after midnight.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Don't feed them after midnight. There you go. That's it's more.
It's more comparable to Gizmo and a Grimlin than it
is to you know, Chebacca. He didn't morph in anything.
He's just Schebacca. Just gotta be careful, that's all. Like,
you know, some people have kids, Like I was always
like a traditional list, you know, wait till you get

(38:37):
married before you have kids. I mean I didn't, but
I'm just saying you're supposed to. And I believe in that,
but I say this, Hey, Matt, you didn't. Ain't know that. Hey, look,
but if you have a kid before marriage, I would say,
it's not about figuring out if you guys are compatible sexually.
It's about figuring out can they handle having a kid?

(38:59):
That's what I and maybe I'll leave it at that,
you know what I mean. Like, you know, you talk
about like the chemical imbalances that take place and just
things like you know, change in their bodies and in
their minds, like in their minds, like in their brains,
like their brains get like some type of worm in
it or something like that, and then go bad. And
you got to be able to adjust and adapt to

(39:21):
the changes, you know. And then there's a kid that's
crying and they do everything even if you help, you
still didn't do enough. And then you do that for
years and years and years, and then they grow up
and then they're gun. Then you got to figure out
who the person is that you're dealing with after the
kids have left. So there's that. That's marriage. Good luck
to everybody out there. Congrats to everybody out there that's
been able to do it, because a lot of people

(39:41):
aren't able to stay in them. So there you go.
I'm happy for Kelsey, I'm happy for Tata. Take it
one day out of time, you know, and those tour
dates that Q talked about. Enjoy those three four months
away because you know, once once it stops, and you
see each other every day for the rest of your lives. Uh,
you know, you found out a lot about yourself, you know.

(40:02):
There you go. I just figured I came from the
hit and keep it real, that's all. Yeah, you're doing
a right Thank you. I appreciate this therapy session. I
appreciate being able to want people out there. It ain't
too late. Travis, Hey, grab your button. Run Hey hey, Lee,
you get in the yard or what you getting in

(40:25):
the yard? Why don't you get in the yard.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
I've been waiting backstage the entire time, not with this
Taylor slander.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
No oh no, I'm watching the Aras tour right now.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
What yard are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (40:48):
We're getting the snort. We're getting this snort before the
end of this hour, guaranteed.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
Guarantee.

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Speaker 4 (41:07):
How the hell we feel in here?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Boys?

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Good, Shocked, surprised. I just I can't believe it. Man,
When I saw that news last night about USF beating
the crap out of state, stops like, I mean, come on, man,
what do these rankings even meet anymore?

Speaker 3 (41:25):
LeVar so impressive, man, very decisive. I'll tell you they
took it to him like that, Like it was like
their preseason warm up game. You know.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Figure, I heard someone say, we need to stop treating
Boise State like they're the blue blood of the Group
of five and just giving them a ranking every year
and assuming they're gonna be good. I think I think
people tend to forget to in college football is att
different when you have a star player like Ashton gent
who's a kind of generational talent, especially the college life friends.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
I mean, it makes the world of difference. But I
think everyone understands I'm not being serious. Obviously. The the
news of Micah Parsons was surprised to the point where
I almost had to make a wellness check on Lee.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Is Lee alive?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Oh yeah, alive? This is the best he's been ever.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
And some baby what hey, Lee, Lee?

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Are you sober? Because I can understand if you were
celebrating last night. Dude.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
I veered off the road when I saw the update.
I saw the update was like forty seven million or
like when I looked and glanced at my phone as a.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
How do you supposed to how do you supposed to
hold a flask, your phone and the steering wheel at
the same time.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 6 (42:36):
So I veered into Prestiges. I was driving by it
because I saw, oh, Packers, Okay, here we go. Today's
going to be a good day.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
And he'd be the weekend, the entire weekends. Maybe a
good weekend.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Yeah, yeah, very distracting day. Yeah, I'm doing very good.
We are, baby, we are.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Let's go, yeah, I mean we are? What Green Bay
just just say like this, what's Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I loved it. I loved it. I love that it
happened because it I think it gave way to something
that I was in my mind, I was weighing it
out as it applied to what Mike a situation would be.
And I have a little bit of an interesting kind

(43:27):
of take on it, and you know, it'd be interesting
to hear what your guys' kind of response to it is.
But I think Jerry Jones gave us an indication of
what the future holds for the Dallas Cowboys. And I

(43:47):
believe with a move as big as this, and seeing
that another team was willing to give up what they
gave up and pay him what they're paying him, you're
looking at two French as is that are going in
two different directions. And I think by Jerry Jones allowing
this trade to happen, he has told his fan base,

(44:10):
and he has told anybody who's willing to pay attention
that this is he's starting a rebuilt. There's a rebuilt,
and what that rebuild consist of? It could possibly now.
I don't know the whole contract situation with Dak Prescott,
but I would assume by now he's getting to the

(44:32):
end of his contract. I would assume that this is
a pivotal year for Dak Prescott. What if this was
a punt. And while we're looking at, you know, other
teams like the Saints that may be tanking the year
to try to go get you know, Arch Manning in

(44:53):
the draft. What if it's what if it's the Dallas
Cowboys that are positioning themselves with draft capital and the
opportunity to actually be able to get arch Manning first
in the draft. To me, I don't think it sounds
far fetched. I know he said that, you know, we

(45:15):
could use some of that draft capital now to bring
somebody else in. If you were going to do that,
you should have just paid Michael Parsons. And so to me,
I look at this and I feel like this is
an indication that this is a soft punt they're punting
on this season. And I believe if anything they're preparing

(45:40):
for maybe they're probably a quarterback and a couple pieces
away from building a team that can be a competitive
team moving forward. And I believe Jerry Jones looked at it,
they measured it, and they weighed it, and sit do
we give Michael Parsons a long term contract knowing what

(46:04):
the situation of this team is, or do we take
advantage of the fact that we have a generational player
that could could actually give us the draft capital that
we need to be able to finish a rebuild or
legitimately do a rebuild of our franchise moving forward. That's
my take.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
So you're giving up on Dak Prescott.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I never I can't say I gave up on him
Q because I just think that he showed us his ceiling. Like.
I don't believe he will be any like, he will
not exceed what he has been. And I think this
Dallas Cowboys team has hit critical mass on what they're
going to be. Even if and I say this honestly,

(46:49):
even with Micah Parsons on the team, I do not
think this is a super Bowl contending outfit. And I
do not think that Dak Prescott is the quarterback that
will take Dallas to a super Bowl. And so to me,
I'm hey, if he turns out to be a world
beater as a quarterback this year, then maybe I still

(47:11):
think that. I don't know, I don't know what that
looks like. But you have a lot of draft capital
to possibly continue to build around him. He's not crazy old,
so maybe he can change their minds. But today I
wouldn't sit there and say that I'm sold on the
fact that Dak Prescott is the quarterback of the future

(47:33):
for the Dallas Cowboys that can lead them to Super Bowls.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
I didn't he just signed the deal last year though.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
Yeah, so he actually is under contract. Technically, he's on
the books with voidable years I think to like twenty
thirty two or something. But they couldn't move on from
his contract realistically, I'd say until after twenty twenty seven
without really impacting their salary cap.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
That year.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
He's got about a fifty six million dollar dead cap hit.
So I mean, I guess you could do a post
June one designation, do that whole thing, But you were
looking at twenty twenty eight being the first year you
could really move on from Dak. If you cut him,
maybe there'd be someone who'd be willing to trade for him.
But if he's not good enough for you in Dallas,
you're probably not gonna be able to find a suitor

(48:23):
at least to take on that contract. So you know, look,
I don't think that's what this is about. I think
this is the This is an example of an owner
who's so out of touch with reality and what it
takes I think to win a Super Bowl. I mean
somewhere along the way he lost it over the last

(48:44):
thirty years. Because with everything you just said, I'll gladly
take that into account. How does not extending though arguably
the best defensive player in the NFL, who's young on
your roster, you know, for that shot to go get
whatever quarterback in the future. Because here's the problem with

(49:06):
even the draft capital they got. Green Bay is giving
up a twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven first round pick.
They're not gonna be in the top half the draft exactly.
So Dallas and by the way, Dallas isn't a team
because Dak's not gonna just tank like Dallas isn't a
team that's gonna be in the top ten. So package
it however you want. It's not enough draft capital to

(49:27):
move up. And to that point, anyone who's sitting at
number one, if they really value that quarterback, they're not moving.
They're not like, they're not moving off the spot. If
it's the Saints, if it's pick your team, they're not
moving off that spot. So you could you could come
up to them and say, we have four first rounds. Okay,
well we don't care because we're taking Arch Manning or

(49:49):
we're taking name your quarterback in college right now, that
would be a first round Bick Drew Aller k club
Nick Lenora, Seller's like, pick whoever you want, Jeometeer, Like
they're not getting up the guy they value, the guy
they view. I mean, if anything, we've seen guys signed
quarterbacks who've been veterans, who've been consistent, hand the draft

(50:09):
one in the first round with that pick, like they're
gonna double down on the quarterback position. So this, to
me is shameful to the Dallas Cowboys fans and to
everything that the Dallas Cowboys sell about this team being
all in, because they're not. And look, he's not wrong.

(50:29):
Kenny Clark's a good defensive tackle. He will help improve
them against the run. But it's almost a shot at
Micah Parsons, as if Micah Parsons wasn't good against the run,
Like he's not an all around good player. So I
just I don't see how this helps Dallas at all.
This makes Green Bay a legitimate contender in my mind,

(50:51):
not only this year but for the next five six years.
I mean, they've got a window, they've got a young roster,
they've got a lot of talent, and that's the team
that now I look at when you say Philly, now
I'm almost saying, like Green Bay's right there, San Francisco's
right there. Looking at the roster, I mean that's that's
a problem now for a lot of teams in the NFC.

(51:13):
With the offense, I think what they're capable of doing,
but now having Micah Parsons.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
On defense too, I've tried to find the well I
can justify that I can now, I really have tried
really hard to find the justification for them wanting to
move on from Micah Parsons and how that there is none.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
It's an awful move like it just is.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
And if you wanted to say we were having the discussion,
I think it was last year that the three guys
in Dallas that were coming up on deals that we're
going to need new contracts were Micah Parsons, C. D
Lamb and Dak Prescott. Dad one hundred percent like you
can and this is not a shot at I think
Dak Prescott's a good quarterback. Not a shot at him.
You could probably find another quarterback who can do what

(51:55):
Dak does. Not a shot at CD Lamb He's a
very good wide receiver. He's had had great years in
the NFL. You can find another CD LAMB Michael Parsons
through this portion of his career. I mean, we're talking
like historical numbers from a pass rusher and that's the
one they chose to part ways with. And to Brady's point, like,

(52:17):
what are those first round picks like they're talking about, Well,
this is going to help us in the future. Remember
when Khalil Mack got traded, Green Bay was the other
team that was trying to get Khalil Mack. John Gruden
specifically chose to trade him elsewhere to Chicago and not
Green Bay because he thought the first round picks they
were going to get from Chicago were going to be
worse than Green Bay's. Jerry Jones just made a bad

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team worse and a good team better. I can't I
can't find the win in this for Dallas. This is
if you're a Cowboys fan, if you're like it feels
like we're entering into Al Davis territory. Towards the end
of his time with the Raiders. It just feels like, hey, man,

(53:03):
are we sure this is the guy at this point
that we won't call him the shots for the team.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
This is an example though, of an owner who also
plays general manager. You know, in his mind he can
say that he's working on whatever timeframe he wants, like
this is building towards the future. Now. To the best
of my knowledge, I don't know if the figures for
the because he said, oh, it helps their cap space,
our cap situation all right. I don't know if these

(53:29):
figures are correct and it's posts now this trade, or
if it's still taking that into account. But at least
what I'm seeing, they're second in the NFL in cap space.
So that's a blatant lie like information. You can look
up if you're a Cowboys fan and look Jerry in
the eyes and go, this has nothing to do with

(53:50):
cap space. You mean cap space for the future. Hey, Jerry,
you have got a bunch of cash. You're the most
valuable franchise in the world. Just give him a big
Sonny bonus. You know, it helps spread that out like
you did for dak over the course of the next
eight years. It's it's gros mismanagement of the roster and

(54:12):
even more so just the Dallas Cowboy fan base, like
continuing to perpetuate a lie this entire offseason, from the
hiring of Brian Schottenheimer and how that went about, and
now getting to the point of the negotiations with Micah Parsons.
This might be the most damning thing, and that includes

(54:33):
the Jerry Jones bus. This might be the most damning
thing that has occurred with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. Ever, Ever,
I don't even know what happened on that bus. I
just I hear everyone talks about that.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Bo.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
I'll say this right now.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
It's it's worse than the Luca trade in Dallas because
at least you got an established player in return, and
Kenny Clark's a nice player, but at least you got
Anthony Davis. And there was some feeling like, I just
don't get it, man, I'm sorry, I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
If you were to get rid of Patrick Mahomes in
a trade in the fourth, what fifth year of his contract,
the last year of his rookie contract, would people lose
their minds over it? What people melt down over the
Kansas City Chiefs trading Patrick Mahomes because of what he

(55:25):
was demanding contractually speaking, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
So much so that I don't even think people could
get their mind to grasp the concept of that actually happening.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
So here's the point I'm trying to drive home with that.
While he's not a quarterback, if you again, if you
look at what he's accomplished in the names, and I
said this yesterday, I'm a double down on it, you
can only mention Michael Parson's name in terms of what

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he's been able to do body of work with Lawrence
Taylor and Reggie White. Now, some of y'all out there
may not remember Reggie White, which I don't know why
you wouldn't if you're a football fan. But if you're
a football fan and you know the game, to be
compared to Reggie White, Reggie Michael Parsons goes to Green

(56:22):
Bay as the only other person outside of Reggie White
to have what twelve sacks twelve plus sacks in the
first what two three years or whatever it is there,
whatever it is, right, You're we're not. This is not
a scenario where he is a normal, really good defensive player.

(56:46):
He is a premire generational talent that you can only
mention with a handful of names. And he's still in
his rookie contract. That's why I brought Patrick Mahomes up
as an exam. If this was a quarterback, that I
think the backlash in the outrage would be so it

(57:07):
would be so pronounced that it would there would be
a total meltdown in media today if that was a quarterback.
And that's the only difference here is that it's not
a quarterback. But outside of that, this is probably the
most egregious move that I've probably that I've witnessed in

(57:30):
watching professional sport. It might be the most egregious move
to let a generational talent that's on his rookie contract
go from your team. Like that's that's pretty wild.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
Especially when you drafted. You know what I'm saying, Like
this whole debacle is like it's a guy you drafted,
you selected, he's been everything that you'd hoped he'd be
in more, and you can't get a deal done. I mean,
which mind you looking at the contract, it's not one
of those regards you know, blew it out of the park,
like the forty seven million average annual value like all that.

(58:04):
To me, it's it's all to the wayside. It's what's guaranteed,
its signing. It's one hundred full guaranteed in signing. That's significant.
That's good. You're telling me Jerry Jones couldn't do that,
like you're tell you're telling me that the hang up
supposedly was guarantees if I'm not mistaken, and there was
maybe an additional year that the Cowboys wanted, which from

(58:26):
the from the standpoint of when the contract ends, which
you'd be around the age of thirty. So I'm sure
as agent's telling him, hey, you if you want another
bite at the apple, don't be thirty one. Look at
Trey Hendrickson B thirty B twenty nine, Like, be in
that range where you're twenty nine heading into your last year.
You can re up, or you're thirty, you can you

(58:48):
know force potentially you know, getting a free agency then
you have a much better chance of teams still paying
you that huge next deal. So that's legitimate. But again
you're telling me that Jerry Jones, the Dallas Cowboys couldn't
figure it a way of structuring the contract him one
hundred and twenty million fully guaranteed it signing, Like was

(59:10):
it really just about the contract because it's not the
type of contract they couldn't absorb, So I don't know.
I've got more questions than anything else. I remember hearing
stuff and I don't know, Jonas if you remember this too.
Someone had said, like, this is like a year ago
that you know, maybe there's some stuff behind the scenes.
The team's not overly thrilled about. And you know, again,

(59:34):
he's done everything on the field you'd hoped he would do,
so I'm not sure if there's more of a backstory.
They felt like maybe he was a headache or bad
for the team in a way as far as how
he's conducting himself, because none of this makes sense.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
None of this makes me even if but here's the thing,
he's so good, how does that even matter? If it
ain't something so crazy like, how does that match some
of the greatest football players have been, the most touched
football players can't deal with them. I mean, it is
what it is, and I don't and I'm not saying
that to say I'm defending Micah because I don't even

(01:00:10):
think that that's the case. I mean, some guys have
had you know, the guy came out and said he
needs to be paying attention to football more than his podcast.
I felt like that was a shade grenade like like,
mow your lawn, make sure your lawn is good, like
you you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Have a podcast, Like I didn't realize he had a podcast,
does he.

Speaker 9 (01:00:27):
Well, he's like like he's like, yeah, they created a
whole network that he's like the president or something.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Of for for on Bleacher Report. Yeah, there's something to
that effect. But yeah, he does.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Like there's never been a time where I feel like
he has been focused on football side of and that's correct.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I don't think there's anything that can legitimize outside of
something that we know in the public, outside of something
we know in the public, like he didn't slap somebody
or you know, and even then, I don't know that
that's going to be enough, because that's how good he is.
They traded that good of a talent.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
They traded for Charles Haley, who used to tug his
slug in meetings and we're talking about Micah Parsons being
a pain in the ass on a podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Behind Hire Too Two. They've hired. They've hired some guys
that you would consider to be maybe a little bit
disruptive in the locker room, like I just Jerry Jones
as always. They hired Greg Hardy, Like do we not
like forget forget about it, Like you can't use that
as an excuse.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
No, I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
And also like I think it was Breer who made
who made this appoint you know, talking about, you know,
what are the chances this doesn't get done? He's like, well,
you know they've you know, there's been some things behind
the scenes, and he kind of, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Sort of threw it out there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
And even Jerry Jones yesterday was talking about, yeah, you know,
with this kind of contract, we wanted Mike get a
you know, take on more of a leader ship role,
like take on more leader It's like, I don't know,
I mean, I I'd rather see some I'd rather see somebody,
you know, run up sixty sacks and four seasons, you know,
to show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
That is leadership. Yeah, the way he plays this leadership,
it's like, does be clear?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
None of it makes sense? Literally, none of it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
So I gave my I feel like I gave what
could be the most substantial the moment you get rid
of that type of player that has to say to
me that sparks a rebuild, how do you like, there's
no other way unless you are out of touch with reality.
There's no other way to legitimize or to justify a

(01:02:40):
move like this. If you're not planning a rebuild, how
do you get rid of your your that's a pillar,
that's a that's a foundational piece to building a If
winning a Super Bowl is what you want to do,
that's a foundational piece. How do you just remove pieces
from your foundation if you're planning on winning a Super

(01:03:02):
Bowl unless you're planning on being able to replace it
with something that you feel is so significant that you
would actually take on the responsibility of doing what they
just did. I mean, you want to know how it
has to be a rebuild.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
You want to know how thrilled Mike is to be
in Green Bay. I mean, Lee, you know, get a
whiff of this.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
This is how happy he is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
In his statement, he said, quote, North Texas will continue
to be my home in the off season. I'll still
be here giving back to the community that gave me
so much, and no matter where the next chapter takes me,
the bond we've built will never break. It's good to
see he's gonna spend his time in the off season
with his X. You know, it's good to see. So
that hope you're happy about that. Lee, That's what he thinks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
On this way to dude, he's meeting up with a
guy by the name of Rashwan What is it? I
don't want to say it wrong, Rashawn out. The calling Rishard,
Rashawn Gary, and Michaeh. Parsons as as edges for your
defense is going to be pure entertainment. That is going

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to be some of the funnest games to watch because
Rashawn Gary is one of the most amazing workaholics, study phobes,
like not study foe, but study holics of the craft. Dude,
dudes technique is amazing. His game is amazing. And you

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at Michael Parsons to the other side, that's going to
be a pretty fun group to watch. Up front pass rushing.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Man, It's gonna be interesting too, is when they want
to go to like a speed rush package. You're gonna
have Rashaan Gary, Micah Parsons, Lucas van Ness, the kid
they took the first round a couple of years ago,
who's capable, and then Baron Sorel is a kid I
really liked Hi. I think they took in the fourth
round out of Texas. I mean, they've got some guys,

(01:04:58):
they're gonna be able to rotate in there to like
create havocs. So yeah, I was gonna say, get your
get your popcorn, right quarterback luck.

Speaker 6 (01:05:06):
And people are people are pretty excited about their blitz
Blitz packages with the quay Walker and Edrin Cooper.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Lee, pull your trousers up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Okay, like this has been going on for way too
long after this news.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Lee, I mean, doesn't everyone excited about their Blitz packages?

Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
Like what gets people excited when they can win against
one on one battles. It's just like they're excited about
their big ole of a blitz too. By the way, Yeah,
they're gonna bring in Johnson and kway Walker and some
of these other guys are excited about their Blitz package.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Only are you getting a Micah Parson's number? Who's got
the number eleven? Now?

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
Is Jayden Reid?

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Read who?

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
Of course, I was bummed waking up to the news
that he is a Jones fracture that he decided not
to get surgery on, and that he's playing through.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Hey, Mike had just had a Jones fracture too, How
about that?

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
That's good?

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
That was very well Jonas that was very very well.
Who was the linebacker y'all had that had the dreads?
Is he still there? I don't know. I forget he
was a middle backer or something to that effect. Super
athletics and thumper may be off. I can't remember. I

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can't remember the dreads.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
He had long hair?

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Who was who was the who? Like you're you're a
fan of Green Bay League? Who had no? No? No,
that was a long flowing locks. That was the lock
era of white boys. It's not Clay No.

Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
We had the We had the line back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Well Cooper that that had dreads. I don't know who
it was, but you had you had one linebacker that
had dreads and he was a animal out there.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
You know what's interesting about your comment about the dreads.
On if I had said that, people be like, oh,
that guy's racist. He's just identifying him by threads.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Oh no, that's not true, because you can see it
coming out of their helmet. That's that's how Yeah, but
like exactly who it was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah, you don't know what. You can't identify a pack
identify man? You racist?

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
I mean you immediately have me thinking of, you know,
the Mike Mackenzie L Harris days. But oh, I know
you're talking about well, Jens Jalen Smith, also from the
Former Cowboy. He was there for a minute and he
had long Oh I know, are you thinking of Devondra Campbell?
Maybe that's the name you're thinking of, Devondra Campbell.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Maybe that's the name that sounds about right. That's he's
a thumper, Yeah, Andre, he was a thumper. Yeah, he
a thumper. He had dreads, but he was a thumper.
Got That's exactly who I'm talking about. So he played
for the forty nine ers. Now okay, not sure?

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Can you uh can you filter filter your NFL search
to play players with dreads filter on your search players?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Is that the dude that walked off the field CD
he wasn't playing any.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's He was a great Bay
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
He's a free agent now, but he was probably gonna
he did dreads

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Probably gonna be a free agent for a while based
on that move.