October 26, 2024 • 57 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Ravens show up big time on double barrel Monday night action.Top 15. The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about the passing of Dodgers legend Fernando Valenzuela, the Lakers season opener with Bronny and much more! And the Vikings take care of the Rams on TNF but LA should tell suitors to back off Cooper Kupp. Lee finally gets a new car, kind of, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Rings and Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So I figured something out and we watched double barrel
action in the NFL last Sun of Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Double barrel action.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
In double barrel meant uh, Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Well, I mean that was two wide receivers get taken
out from gosh.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
So there were four teams that were featured last night,
but I think there was maybe only one of the
only one the only one of them was good.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
That's said, only one of them is good. We'll say
only one of them showed the hell off. They showed off.
That was a costly game for Tampa Bay last and
that was a showcase for Baltimore as double barrel acts.
As Rob Parker would say, they got worked over like
a Burger and friz that that was a pounding last night.
(01:04):
They started out, I mean they came out the gates
kind of equal, you know it was. It was equal
for a minute there. And that guy dang Lamars Jackson, man,
god Lee, he just he different. That dude's different. It's
so funny. You're watching the game, right and it's like, oh,
Derrick Henry's had a quiet game. He has He's had
(01:25):
a quiet game so far. Man, the very next play,
my man takes off for what was it, like sixty
seventy something like that. So they look pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
The defense looked pretty good. The offense. It's just the
first thing you think of is okay, Lamar's starting to
come on, like he's he's hitting like that, that form
of I'm in season and I feel good in season.
Then you have the element of Derrick Henry being brought
to the table and not to mention, just kind of
(01:58):
the dynamic receiving that they're getting from Andrews and on out.
It just makes you wonder can they do it? And
that's the first thing I thought, Can they do it
in the playoffs? If this team can travel time, travel
into the future and play in the playoffs the way
(02:18):
they played last night, they could they could finally be
that team that makes it to the Super Bowl. They
could be the team that wins the Super Bowl if
they play like they did last night.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
I mean, I think if I was gonna lay a
bet on the AFC versus nfc'd be on the AFC.
I just think there's more, there's better teams in the AFC.
There's probably better quarterback play. If we're being honest with ourselves,
I mean, stack up the top three teams in the NFC,
it'd be what Detroit, San Francisco, Minnesota right now?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, And Detroit's the only one that you really like.
For me, Golf is the only one that I really
hang my hat on. I mean, I like the way
Jordan Love is playing, you know, but band, but not
as good as as what you're seeing Lamar.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes can me come on?
So yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
The thing that always stands out to me is in
the NFL, it's really hard to get guys wide ass open.
It's just hard to find that sort of separation. It
either comes through talent and speed, meaning they're like route
running ability or their speed and be able to actually separate,
or it comes from scheme. You know, you see some
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you know play callers are able to scheme things open.
You hear that from time to time, but you know,
usually that's.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
For a small portion of your plays.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
What makes the Baltimore Ravens different it is Lamar's running ability.
You just don't see much Mando man. Everyone is so
scared to play man to man it almost completely eliminates
it from what he's going to see. And so then
you get guys running white ass open through zone coverages
because Babmen and Flowers obviously are deep threats and they're impactful,
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and then Andrews and likely kind of running underneath. And
that's not even factoring in Justice Hill or Derek Henry
in the run game or even you know, potential checkdowns
things like that. So it is such a complicated situation.
Defenses are in because you're limited and being able to
play Manda man because no one wants to turn their
back and then let Lamar Jackson out of the pocket
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and run for an eternity. So then you got to
play zone with everyone watching Lamar. But then you've got
to try to cover these receivers. Then tight ends that
going to get open in space, they they put more pressure. Sure,
and you can throw in the run game, but we
have to talk about run game like they can throw
the ball every single playoff they want and it will
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be effective because every defense is limited and how they
have to approach the Baltimore Ravens and so they're always
going to find production there. And it's just like you
see guys opened the touchdown passed to Babman. I don't
know if there's someone within five yards of him. I
mean Mark Andrews one time we're we're in a little
basic in route and there was no one within ten Yeah,
(05:12):
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, I love it. If he does go to the Super.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Bowl, you know he's gonna win. He's twenty three and
one against the NFC in his career.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Dang, is he really?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Wow? That?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
According to uh Fox Sports, who had that sent out
last night. Now, Pro Football Reference has a different number,
but you know, he's twenty two and three on Pro
Football Reference. But you know you had to do a
deeper dive into all that. By the way, he didn't
know that it is a deeper dive on that. Well,
because I'm trying to figure out why it's twenty three
and one in other places but on Pro Football References
(05:44):
twenty two and three. Like, I'm trying to figure that
one out. It's a little seems a little strange to me.
But regardless, he's been dominant and he's been fantastic, and
last night you're just watching it, and I look came
into the season thinking, all right, well, you know they
lose to Kansas City to open up the year. The
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loss to the Raiders, which I still can't explain.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's one of the more bizarre time so preseason.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Okay, that loss to the Raiders was almost the worst
was that Week two was almost worse than the Raiders
lost to the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Now that you look at it, I'm thinking, how did
that happen?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You had to lead in that game, you coughed it up,
and I just assumed, Okay, maybe they'll regress. This isn't
going to be a year that they ascend and they
just get better and better. And Derrick Henry, who was
going into the game the favorite to be Offensive Player
of the year, like it just continues to look like
a home run edition in the offseason. And how to
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how Tennessee walked away from that and just decided, well,
we're going to go in a different direction.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
He doesn't look old like, he actually looks better than
he did in Tennessee. Yeh, don't do that. What do
you mean, no, last year compared to this year? Last year? Yeah, okay, no,
like in his peak, absolutely not. But Okay, I know
what you made that you kept it open a little
last year and I.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Was thinking about this too, like if you could have
a dream super Bowl matchup right now, Like if you
could have a super Bowl matchup, who would it be?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I mean the problem with mine would be I don't
know how it would go.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Which wouldn't include ann NFC team.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Okay, well that's that's fair, but just basic it off
of what I'd have to base it off. Either do
the one that I picked Detroit in case, or Detroit
and Baltimore go that's what I want. I mean want
Detroit Baltimore and I want. But it's such bully ball.
Both teams have the same type of mentality, so it
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could actually end up being a bus gang. It could
be a gang where you're like, this is They're really
like it's really a matchup, like you get ten your
art and here you got a punt it and there's a
punt there, and it's like it's going to be a
real football game. And I don't know that the fans
are okay with just enjoying like what a real football
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game would look like. I mean, but maybe not a
whole lot of scoring. It would have the potential to
not have a whole lot of scoring, possibly even if
Lamar Jackson being the way that he is as prolific
as he is. It just just to me, it just
seems like. But then again, maybe that's where you get
haunted by the loss of Hutchinson. Maybe that turns out
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to be one of those you know but they're saying,
if you know, they do get to a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Now, okay, come on, I think I've found out the
discrepancy too.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
In the record, by the way, that's.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Got some as I'm looking through this, I did find
a loss to the New York Giants in twenty twenty two,
but I think they must have counted.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
A game.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Two games he played in but they but he didn't start.
So the only other two he lost to NFC teams
but he didn't start again is back in twenty eighteen,
I believe, his rookie season, and he threw one pass.
He was one for one against New Orleans and they
lost twenty three twenty four on him apparently, and then
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and then the next week at Carolina they lost again
and he was four or five.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But that's it.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Like as far as the regular season, he's only lost
once as a starter to the New York Giants back
in twenty twenty two as a starting quarterback in the NFL,
which is, I mean, you don't even need to figure
out how much money would you make betting on the
Baltimore Ravens this money line over the course of the
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regular season his career, because that is that is a
stat that Jonas, you should be throwing out or figuring out,
because you could get back the good graces of all
those people betting out that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, listen, I've tried everything. It's not working. Like I
thought they were gonna regress this year.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Like that sounds that sounds like it's gonna work.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So yeah, it's it's just not not great for the
NFC if he look, if he could just get past
the damn Chiefs or anybody in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Play playoffs, like just the playoffs in general, Like can
we just skip past?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah? Can you can? You?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Like, I mean the way everything was lined up last year,
they at home field were favorite at.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Home against the youth, the youth of of what's what's
my guy's name?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Man, come on, I mean those two plays like that's
the game they probably won that game, like a little meltdown.
And that's all good though, you know, because then you
come back and you're more mature. He looks he looks
to be a very much more mature football player right now.
I like the way Flowers is play. I like the
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way Bateman is played. People may not realize Bateman in
college was a dog. You got you have players that's
a top draft what rounded Bateman goes first round. Yeah,
he's a top draft pick. So you're like, it's not
like you don't have It's like that guy is a guy.
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Flowers is a guy. Q was singing his praise as
the whole last year in college. They got guys. Andrews
is a guy. They got guys all over that field. Man,
the backup, the change up running back, a guy. Dude
is on fast forward looking like a running back version
(11:45):
of Kyler Murray out there as a running back. I mean, dude,
they got talent. They're like a fab five, a running
rebels type. And then you got the battering ram like
you got Larry Johnson and Derrick Henry, like the enforcer,
Like they are a good looking team bro, and god
dang it, they let us down every year. I tell them.
(12:07):
We say it every year ever since we've done this show.
We picked Baltimore to go to the to the to
the Super Bowl, and they let us down every year.
And I didn't pick them this year. But god dang,
they keep playing like they played last evening. That's going
to be the key. Can they Can they maintain that?
I think you said they they're they're improving every week.
Can they continue to improve every week? You know, once
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this season because now we're getting into the meat of
the season and people are familiar with one another. Can
they maintain this trajectory?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
That's a good goal for Lead to live. By the way,
like can he improve each week?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
He die?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
If he improved on what he was doing, that would
be like the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
He I'm not.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I'm not trying to get him to improve on certain aspects.
I'm trying to get him to improve on like different
areas of life.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Okay, well, now that's fair, like getting a vehicle getting hey, Lead,
getting hell out of the house, getting.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Is that the sequel? Straining order?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Is that the sequel up to the number one?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Because it was kind of im reverse, you know, it
was kind of reverse.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Get out, get out, I mean it's his starring lead
the lasst type of cast.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know, wow racist what he meant him on.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I'm just saying it would be get out in reverse.
I mean that would that would be a definite plot twist, Like,
what do you mean we have to get out?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Lee should be safe?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I mean, all right, buddy, hey and the.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Car yesterday?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Did you get your car? Lead? I did get the
car yesterday, all right, yeah, is it here? I didn't
see it.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Oh, I don't know if you know what it looks
like yet.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
So just just to clarify, you quote unquote got the
car that you've been driving.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I have not driving your grandmother's car.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
It is my my Yes, it is my grandma.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
You're claiming to have just now gotten this car, even
though you've been driving it for a while.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
I have not been driving it for a while. I've
been driving another car for a while, which was a That.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Was what was confusing yesterday.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It wasn't it a grandparents car. That was your mom's
folks car. Your mom's car. Yeah, okay, we know it
was some type of parent. So if I brandom car,
is it a Buick?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
No, I've had a Buick before, It says Infinity. Yes,
it's an Infinity G thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Oh, it's not a bad car.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's Graham's drive driving nice.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Yeah, it's a it's a great car.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I just I assumed it's your car, it's my car.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Assumed it was something a little more older people would drive.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
It is something it's a little older people would drive.
But it's it's nice.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
It's all right. I mean, I'm not judging. You got
a point B.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
How much did your grandpa SELTZI for?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Really good? I'm just curious, like, what's that I got.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I got a little bit of a deal.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
You knows, definitely wanted to make a few bucks off
of it. I think we both helped each other out.
But it's been it's been well taken care of. It's
only got forty five thousand miles on it for an
eight did you play? Did you pay Kelly blue Book
price for it?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
No? I paid lower? Okay, how much lower? How much lower?
A couple of thousand, only a couple of thousand? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
How much did grandpa make any money on it?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah he did?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yeah, all right, made a few a few shekels.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Well, I don't know if I don't know what you
mean by made money, like if he made a profit
or anything that it was paid off.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
It's been paid for. It's been paid off. So yeah,
for like.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Twenty could have sold it for if you just put
it out there.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
In the market, he could have sold it for about
say ten to ten eleven thousand.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Okay, And I'm guessing you got a few grand underneath that, correct. Dang,
it's your grandfather.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Yeah, and his grandson shouldn't be getting Paul a little
because family discover something grandfather wants.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Did he strat cash home?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Did he ask you to at least replace the booze
that you drank out of his dead wife's liquor cabinet.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
No, he gave me some extra bottles to put in
the truck.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Good for him. Riverside Leve.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
What have you ever once talked about your grandfather?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I mean he talks about Todd all the time, exactly,
certainly not as much as Todd now granddad. And then
plugged him with the infinity with the Infinity link, unbelievable.
You're a horrible joke.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Taking advantage of elderly people are horrible.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
The plug I think we were both helping each other
out here, like all the way no, Diddy, does he
even know that he sold you the car?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Like is he to wake up today and go, where's
where's the car? He? Lee? What happened at the bus stower?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
If you know Alan, you know he was the one
who was like trying to get a few extra shekels.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Alan was sitting at the bus stop yesterday.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
He's like, it's in pristine condition. It's not in pristine condition,
but it's so he was selling you.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Oh yeah, you know it's.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Gonna be really messed up because when Lee's driving it
around and he goes by like a senior center somewhere,
and some old guys like and.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
They recognize it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I think that's Mama's car. I know that back seat?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Oh wow, oh dang. Not not Carol, not caring, mam,
what what is the Carol? And Mom? Call mom Carol,
not Carol Mom. Ain't nobody fitting car anywhere?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's got a big back seat back there.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
It does not have a big back seat. Ain't nobody
big enough.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Infinity took me in, an took her to infiniting me
off beyond.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well listen on the rise, and I think it's a
sweet deal. Mileage price.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We have a problem in the back. I'm asking, what
would you do, Carol mom and burn it so you'd
have to grab it then to go take it to burn?
Is what you're saying? Was a roll in stone riding?
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Quinn is out of control right now. I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
I'm just talking about my dead grandma.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Oh yeah, the one that you rated your liquor cabinet
as soon as she died. It sounds like you really emotional.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
But we were close like that, Oh my god. What
it means very close like that we would be drinking
what planes gravel?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Brady is out of control, bro.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Just I think there's a chance that you don't know
everything she was doing outside of you guys drinking and
playing scrabble together.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I want to go check the car out during the break.
Let's do it, Yeah, I say.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Black light?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
There we go, say we take a black light.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Coop's looking it up right now, somebody already looking up,
looking up the price.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
What do we hide?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
He thinks I got a good deal.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
That's very coot. What what do you got, Coop? Coop's like,
I don't even want to do it to you. Lee,
don't even want to say what the information is.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We will we will get to the bottom of that
and so much more here on the show.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
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Speaker 2 (20:04):
So, speaking of Wednesday traditions, there's a little somebody we
talked to every single Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
He comes on the show and he just lights it up.
What's his nag?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's the old p Yah Petros Papadakis, the co host
of the Petros and Money Show, which you can get
on the Blowtorch and La Sports, Fox College football analyst
and our good buddy Pee.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Good morning morning, Hello, I'm here, i'd pee good morning
just to everybody.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Good morning yeah Pee.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
By the way, I hate to start this off on
a on a down note, but obviously the news of
the passing of the great Fernando Valenzuela, which people maybe
nationally don't get the gravity that that holds. But man,
when he was here and playing like Fernando Mania was
a real thing.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Pee, Yeah, and it really was like an eighties thing
throughout the eighties. He was a Dodger from night eighty
to nineteen ninety and then he played pro baseball for
seven more years, all over the place, pinch hitting, playing
first base, playing in the major leagues, playing in the
Mexican leagues. And yeah, it's pretty hard to quantify. I
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guesslynsanity you could think about, and what a big deal
that was nationally for like a week, Fernando Mania was that,
but the player was really really good and it was
like ten.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Years oh wow.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
And the thing about the Dodgers that makes it so
much cooler than anything as far as sports go in
Los Angeles, because the Lakers is just a douche fest.
It always It's not always been that way, but is
Somewhere around twenty five years ago, pro basketball priced everybody
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out that really wanted to be there, and then it's.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Only gotten worse and worse.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
And believe it or not, the way he died was
so tragic that it erased a lot of the polarization
that Kobe was in town. There were a lot of
Laker fans, people that grew up with Jerry West and
Wilt Chamberlain and a lot more that grew up with
Magic Johnson and Worthy in Kareem that did not like
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the Shaq and Kobe infighting and were really kind of
polarized by that, and then polarized again by Kobe's behavior
and the whole.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Way that that ended.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
And then they are polarized again by Lebron and sort
of him renting the Lakers and doing what he wants
with him with Genie Buzz asleep at the switch, and
that's Laker fandom. The Dodgers have always been great and
fun in Los Angeles as long as I can remember,
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and I was born in nineteen seventy seven because of
the Latino fan base. I mean, the Latino fan base
is what makes the Dodgers cool. If we didn't have
the Latino fan base in La and not just Mexicans,
which Bernando was, but you know Guatemala, l Salvador, everything.
You know people from those cultures, and it makes the
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Dodgers fun.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
It makes the Dodgers different. It connects people.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
In the city who would have no real exposure to that.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Kind of flavor. I guess, as Vic the Brick would say,
fla Bah.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
We would not we would not know about a lot
of this stuff. It wasn't for the Dodgers. I mean,
for God's sakes, people are in there drinking michiladas. You
know that's you can't get Like yes, but it's like
you get some stockbroker guy who's like a hedge fund
Orange County guy drinking a Michalana next to some dude
with a face tattoo, and that's the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's been a great thing, totally.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, it really had.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
And you can I mean, come on, Joe, you know this,
and it's a beautiful thing. And I could just remember
I worked in the kitchen at my dad's restaurant from
the age of like eight to fourteen or thirteen till
I finally graduated legal no, And I mean Fernando was
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our patron saint in that kitchen. And if he was pitching,
God help us. If anybody interrupted us for an order
or an appetizer to have something washed. If Fernando was
on the mound. Crazy thing was he was a great
hitter too. He was a gold Glover. And Fernando Mania
just ignited an already very excitable Latino fan base and
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galvanized something and it never really stopped. El Toro was
his nickname, The Bull, and then on another great moment
is he threw a no hitter as a Dodger, And
there's a very famous call, of course from another dear
departm art Saint of the franchise, Vin Scully, to me,
the greatest announcer that ever lived, and he threw a
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no hitter, and Vin said, if you have a sombrero,
throw it to the sky. I'm sure you'll hear that
a bunch of times. In the next few days. He
was sick and people knew that it wasn't going well,
and all the obits were written. Bill Plashki from the
La Times wrote a beautiful one. But yeah, I think
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it's kind of hard to quantify for people outside of
the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I think in San Diego and San Francisco and stuff
they get for nandomania. Maybe beyond that they don't.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
But it wasn't just likelysanity where it was a fun
thing for a couple of weeks. This guy settled down
and was a workhorse and a star on the Dodgers
for the better part of a decade, winning world series,
pitching no hitters and being a literal god to the
entire community, but.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Just a huge hero to he knows everywhere, and it
was it was really.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Something to be around for. And God rest his soul.
Very sad, Yeah, very sad.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I want a transition here, not ever easy to do
after talked about something like this, But speaking of God's
I want to talk about a player who maybe thinks
he's God.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Just last night, the Lakers Lebron.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Oh wow, a moment for them, Petros and really what
that means for the league and for Lebron's legacy and
the Lakers legacy. I mean, talk to me about how
excited you were to see that last time.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
It was great because I was watching and I was like, wow,
this feels a little awkward, right, this might be not
the same as Ken Griffy Jr. I was watching that,
I was like, you know, maybe this is a little different.
But then you have all these Twitter feeds and stuff
that watched Lebron's sack.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And they tell me what a great and historic and
fabulous moment it is. So I'm like, Okay, I'm witnessing history,
but I'm still at a little weird inside because I'm
like this is a little awkward. You know, I know,
this kid wasn't even All League in high school. Two
years ago. And it's not like he was better in college.
Of course, he had that heart thing, which should probably
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be a hindrance and not an excuse as to why
he's not better, and maybe not draft him, leave him
in college for another couple of years because he had
a cardiac problem.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
But that's okay.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
You know he's here and they did the draft and
we've been talking about it, and then I was a
little nervous. And then I heard Candas Parker tell me
three things that made me feel a lot better. She
told me that Brownie works hard.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
She told me that Brownie's a professional, and she told
me that Brownie has a great attitude. And I was like,
I feel better about this.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
This is great.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Is that sarcasm? Why are you being? For real?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I am being one hundred percent sarcastic.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I was he talking to you or were you listening to.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Well, you know, she was doing she was doing the
commentary kind of laid out for her because I don't
feel like the other two really wanted to be on
too much record. She was probably there, but and whatever,
that's those are the talking points, right, That's what Genie
Buss said when she came on our show.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
That's what JJ Reddick said and all that, and I
guess that's what we were all waiting for. And now
he's gonna go to the G League for the rest
of the year. I I don't know, but in Los
Angeles it's totally eclipsed by Fernando, even though ESPN has
the Bronni headline above the Fernando thing. Nationally, A few
(28:40):
people pointed that out to me last night, and a
few people pointed out to me that, Wow, what a
crazy thing that this happened, Almost like eclipsing the the
Bronny thing on purpose, you know, but obviously not, but
some people look at that in that way. Uh, yeah,
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it happened. It was I mean, I felt really manufactured.
And I know that everybody has the argument, well, what
does the fifty fifth pick usually do? And what do
you care and all that. It it just feels like
a major manipulation of of what we thought of as
a pretty pure system, the meritocracy of being in the
NBA or professional sports. And we've talked about it a
(29:22):
whole bunch, and I think this has been a plan
of people's for three four years, regardless of whether or
not Browny was going to be ready for it. They
were going to force it down our throats and we all,
we all felt it last.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Night speaking of manipulation. What what's the latest tactics that
will be needed and used by USC after allowing the
Terps to you know, overcome. They got go goed, They
got go goed, right, they.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Got they got the byb The backyard band just started
band on the backyard Band and the Huckabucks.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
They goescence, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
They started to bang on the upside down buckets and
the Trojans just couldn't hang. I mean, guys, I think
Lincoln Riley in his first eleven games was ten and
one at USC, and after they lost that game to
Utah and Caleb Williams was crying. Remember that if they won,
(30:23):
they would have gone into the playoff and they lost
that game at Utah. Caleb was hurt the Pack twelve
championship game and Lincoln Riley said, this is.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
The worst will ever be at USC football. He was
rest a shirt. Well, actually, yeah, that was the best
they were the last eleven games.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
They're four and.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Seven at USC and people say, well, you know, if
we had Caleb Williams, it would be different. It's like, well,
Caleb Williams was one in six or one in five
in his last a handful of starts at USC, and
then people say, well, if we weren't in the Big ten,
we'd take it all in Pack twelve. It's like, well,
(31:05):
last year you lost, you were about a five hundred team,
and that was in the Pac twelve And what's so
different now. The thing that's upsetting to me is that
Notre Dame game, or sorry, the LSU game with the
Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly was an anomaly, and I
thought of it as this gigantic sign of change for USC.
(31:28):
I thought of it as, wow, look what's happened here.
They are playing a blue blood, a great representative of
a team that's built up on the offensive and defensive line,
a team with blue blood skill on the perimeter, a
team that's going to try to push the lone of
scrimmage and us he stood up to that. They were
the more disciplined team. They tackled in the open field,
(31:50):
their quarterback made plays, they ran the ball enough to win.
All of those things that happened in that game gave
me hope. And it turned out that game was the
burp in the universe. Brian Kelly deserved to be pissed,
pounding on the table like Nikiti Kruz Jeff because he
knew he lost to a bad team and nobody else did.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I guess, And USC.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Since then has lost at Maryland at Minnesota. I mean,
you guys know the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
If you lose at Maryland and at Minnesota, what kind
of team are you in the Big Ten? You're terrible.
You're not gonna win, You're not gonna be mentioned. You're done.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's over.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
And that's disturbing the fact that they're throwing the ball
fifty times to twenty when clearly their best player on
offense is the running back. What he marks? It's bad.
You know, Lincoln Riley doesn't look like a head coach.
This is a pattern of losing. People are showing pictures
(32:51):
on Twitter for the USC sideline of everybody. Well, at
least they're not picking their boogers like Rogers was. You know, Yeah,
I don't get that. I mean, I'd pick my nose
like everybody, but I don't eat it.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah that was.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
I don't either, Trust me. We broke it down. Framed
by a frame. The three steps to actually picking then
eating a booger. But I digress. They're one and four
in Big Ten play. They've got Rutgers at Washington versus
Nebraska at UCLA than Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
They might not be Bowl eligible.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
So so, but is there a breaking point here where
the administration goes because this is obviously a new university president,
a new athletic director.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Right, I think the president was there when he was hired.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Okay, yeah, so but new athletic director. Yeah, Jen Cohen,
who I like a lot. Yeah, she seems awesome, but
it's not her higher so at some point a million
dollars buyout and a ten year deal they gave him.
So so you're saying, there's no way they've got to
live with this this season.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Regardless of how bad this gets.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
This season, they might be in purgatory for years.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
I mean, the guy that stepped up and paid off
Clay Hilton's contractors were the worst in college football history.
CAA took advantage of Lynn Swan and made Clay Hilton
a rich man.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Well, so much experience being an athletic director. I made
complete sense.
Speaker 8 (34:12):
Well, he had yelled at me and said I ran
the boys club and I was like, okay, So I
was like, you don't have a lot of experience. Excuse me,
Oh okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Well but Pat Hayden had a ton of administrative experience.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
Too, right, Yeah, well this is what happens, right, this
is why we're ten years behind everybody else. But Lynn
Swann gave Clay Hilton a terrible contract. It turns out
Lincoln Riley's might be worse, and he was viewed as
a savior for USC football. A guy named Rick Caruso,
very rich guy in LA who owns the Americana Big
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shopping center.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
He built the grove. Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
He gave ninety million dollars to USC to make this happen.
Spoke at the Lincoln press conference and used it as
kind of a it's like some LA confidential type of stuff,
used it as sort of a springboard to his mayoral campaign,
and everybody was so happy and coming out of COVID,
the USC football was going to be fixed. That no
(35:15):
one kind of blinked twice at the ten year deal
with the seventy million dollar buyout that your guy, Mike Boone,
the athletic director at the time, gate you don't even
know how much fun we're going to have with Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You're right, I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
And whatever happened there, he still ended up losing the
mayoral race to a lady with a buzz cut. And yeah,
so he got ninety million dollars for nothing and we
got bar is what you're saying. I don't know, we
got mayor buzz cut here in La Karen Bass And uh.
(35:50):
And I don't know if you think he's going to
pony up the other another ninety million to pay off
Lincoln Riley and bring somebody new in.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I doubt it, probably not without the bone a Reno
trying to evince you know, I don't know who. I
honestly don't know what USC is going to do. But
USC and U c l A Football appear to be broken.
And I don't think they were broken by the Big ten.
I just think they're broke, you know, because Oregan's great,
They're fine, you know, they they didn't get pushed around
(36:18):
in the big Big ten test and Washington's not helpless.
But SC and U c l A. Man, they are
a they are a punchline.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Hey, Petris. I wanted to also send condolences to you
and yours before I let you go on the loss
of SPEEDO. Oh just hope, hope everybody is is doing well.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
There's a rough weekend here at the end. My daughter's
hamster died. Oh hamster. My wife would not all the
lizards fine, I'd retire. Uh wasn't I'd retire.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (36:55):
My daughter has a hamster, and they're supposed to live
a certain amount of time. And I think it lived
out it's life and started to like really slow down.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
And what does that look like?
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I don't I don't see much like poke at it
and then moves more and I don't know. Uh, and uh.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
My wife left town for some kind of retreat and
the hamster died on me while my wife was out
of town.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Oh no, you're gonna blame.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
My son tried to uh survive it with mouth to mouth.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, you know he really did. You know, you could
blow out their lungs doing that.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
I think it did. It was like, well, it started
convulsing and die and then you know, a lot of
people suggested I give it the old Viking funeral, which
is just throw it into the bushes or light it
on fire or something. But now it's in the freezer
because my daughter wants it stuffed through a butthole. Uh,
I guess is that's how you stuff it. She looked
it up and.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Uh she wanted that specific detail.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
That's what she said.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
And then it's I guess it's fifteen hundred bucks to
stuff a hamster.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Oh my god, I have to drive it.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I'd have to drive it to O High.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
It's nice up there, though there's some up there.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I know I have a business meeting. You can write
it off, take it into the Dutch. Trust me.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
They don't want to meet with me. But yes, the
hamster died and it was a big faith. Well what
bothered me it's not the cost. It was the emotional toll.
But what bothered me was, you know, everybody was like,
oh my god, you know, because.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
They know my daughter's volatile.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
My daughter's like wear's a breathe right all day for
no reason, like all day like Neil Smith on the.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
People are always like, hey, what happened to your nose?
Like she's she's an eccentric. I don't know if that
surprises you.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Uhh. But everybody's like, so people know my daughter and
they're like, god, dude, What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
That hamster died? What are you gonna do? She's gonna
freak out. She did a freak out. What are you
gonna do?
Speaker 5 (39:00):
It's like, well, I'm not gonna bring it back to life, Guys,
I'm not you know that ability? Yeah, I'm not gonna
touch it and bring it back to life. I'm not
gonna What am I gonna do? I'm gonna tell her
that hamster died and she did a great job with
it and it had a great life. What do you mean?
What am I gonna do? I'm not gonna freaking hook
it up to a little thing and put a thing.
We're gonna stuff it, wait for lightning and put it
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on the roof and.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Scream well weekend atspos?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah? Wait, are we gonna stuff this thing?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I I hope. I literally like a two percent chance
that it's gonna get stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Are you going to get another hamster? That?
Speaker 8 (39:38):
She all, well, here's what happened. Then later that night
we started, you know, I had to comfort her. So
she has slept in the bed with me, uh and
moms out of town, and so we watched.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
The TCU game, which is a late TCU Stanford is
that is that? Is that comforting that I.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Was playing a TCU played Utah Utah utah tc who's
playing Utah.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
It's a hell of a wake who got the TCU game?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Loved it?
Speaker 5 (40:02):
She wanted, and then she's like, what's that?
Speaker 8 (40:04):
I said, it's a horn frog and she got really
excited and started looking.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Up horn frog. He wants a horn frog as a pet,
which is not legal. Turns out took me a couple
of days to figure that out. There's three type of
horn frogs and none of them are legal to have, so.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
They got them exotic places. Though you still get.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It, you know, I don't even think you can get
it outside it I don't know.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Anyway, The point is that became a bit of an
obsession for a couple hours. And now the Vikings game
came on and I was like, hey, look there's football,
and she's like, is it the horn frogs?
Speaker 8 (40:37):
And I was like no. She's like, but they're purple.
I said yeah. She said, what are they the Pirates?
I said, no, the Vikings. She was it's the same
thing and walked out. I guess, I guess a pirate
and a Viking pretty similar.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Pe We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Always good stuff at the Old peon x is where
you can find him. He's the cost to the Petros
Money Show, which you can hear on the blowtorch Ai
se l A Sports. You have a sombrerost, throw it
to the sky. There it is, thanks b.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
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Speaker 5 (41:17):
Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Have very real issues, man, they are what's you doing?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Now? What is you doing? They're so real?
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Man, I don't know who taught this man his grammar
and language? Man, what do you mean? It's so horrible
what you're supposed to be a sailor with that mouth?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Bro? Man, do.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Man?
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Does he have that foul mouth? It's so bottied up
that I do? Is the way I re tyraq?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
No?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Maybe yeah game last night last night we got MONSI
in today. That's got me a little pump, ye afraid?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
How you doing? Okay?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I'm happy to be here, Happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
That's how you've been.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
I've been good. How are you? I see you on
TV every week, So I you know, I feel like
I haven't missed you even though I haven't seen I
haven't been with you guys in forever.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
But I see you Brady Quinn on TV.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
I see you guys every now and then coming in
at six am.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
You know, will there be some Top Golf beef today?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Of course, audition, But when's the last time you've been
at top Golf?
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Though it's been a minute. We have only been to
the one in Vegas.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
I haven't gone to the one in El Segundo. They
opened one in that.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
One all the same, Yeah, they are all the same,
and I missed the ball the same way.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
That's the problem with that place is like it's cool.
I one or two times, then after a while you're like,
all right, I kind of get it, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well do you guys have that casm out there?
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yes, the place you go.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Have you been to that yet?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I have not been, No, But apparently it's sold out
for a game one of the World Series. Of course.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I think that place is the future.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Like, if you can't go to a game, I don't
know that there's a better venue to watch something than
that place. I think that's the coolest thing that there is.
Right now, I'm with it. Let's go do it.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm gonna go with my back patio with not another
human being within five miles probably the way.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
You okay, do you have the pa And then there's
that which isn't a bad one either.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Christmas lights. Yeah, the Christmas lights up. No, that'll go
up a day after Thanksgiving in the backyard.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Oh yeah, you're talking about like the white ones that
go out back LeVar.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Yeah, I thought that was all year, Like I have
lights out back.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Oh yeah, you're lights if they're like the what do
you call those?
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Like lantern light but you know I'm talking about not
Christmas lights, but they're kind of similar.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
They're like little little bulb light balls. Yeah, string lights. Right, yeah,
you have that out back?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Now if there are any color other than white, did
they not work?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Oh no, but that's like a big thing.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
What do you mean in the backyard? Yeah, adds to
the abbiance. Man, it's nice.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
It does. It does.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
It's like a lot of partying goes. You can put
that anywhere. I think it's yelping and yelling. What do
you get?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, we trying to say now, Okay, were trying to say, Now.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Let me guess, like a little little uh sombreros lying
around and is that what you're getting at here?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Something like that a more authentic variation though, Yeah, one
more time, Jonas, that one wasn't bad. Now, I wasn't
bad with the lights though. You gotta for some reason,
you gotta have what I hear them yelps, you gotta
have the lights, man. I'm just I've witnessed this with
my own two Yeah. So that's uh, that's how it
(45:09):
is out here, all right. You know what else is
out here? What a team that shouldn't be thinking about
trading Cooper Cup on the season? Ye play like this.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
That offense for the Rams looks completely different with Poka
Nakua and Cooper Cup out there. They could make some
noise in that division. I swear like, I don't. I
do not think it's over. I don't think it's over yet.
And that was an interesting game. Do we want to
address the missed face mask or.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
It was a miss? It was a miss, I mean,
and that possibly could have been a part of the
game going a different direction. Possibly, I don't know, you
never know. It was a mess though it was a
miss call.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
And watching the Vikings offense and Sam Darnold, was there
a part of you It's like I could see this.
I could see why they want to trade for Stafford.
I mean, Stafford played well. I don't think Darnold played bad.
I don't think he played bad at all. Actually, I
thought I thought it was a pretty balanced game. I
thought there was.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
I thought there was a lot of offense without a
ton of finishing drives, is what I thought it was.
I mean, I thought the defenses played well. I thought
it was like a balanced game. I actually enjoyed watching
that game because I thought it was two good teams
playing against one another. That's that's what I thought. And listen,
but Sam, Sam or Matthew Stafford, he was he was
(46:32):
he was dealing, man, he was dealing. Bro.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
It's crazy to think that three and four and two
and five are like life.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Changing this season for this team. If they would have
lost last night, I think you're saying, like, that's a rap.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Yeah, two and five, Yeah, that's so hard. That's hard
to climb out of that hole. That's a hard one.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
And they look like not only do they get that
that much need it when but they look good like
the The the question I asked soon as the game
was over is can they stay healthy? That's that's three
and three and four? Yeah, three, Yeah, you're right, Yeah,
you're right. Okay, it's that's going to be the biggest question.
(47:18):
Ken Matthew Stafford stay healthy. Ken Nakua stay healthy, Ken
Cupps stay healthy? Can they stay healthy?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Oh, line's gonna get healthier. They're getting a couple of
guys back by I saw week ten. So that's that's why.
You know, we were talking about, you know, Cooper Cup
could be traded and all that, and Sean McVay said,
you know, none of that is true. I think, you know,
it probably changed, especially after last night. But I just
looked at it. I go, they're not that far off.
And if you just go back to this season, Look,
(47:46):
they probably should have beaten Detroit. They had the lead
late and it was a missed completion on third down.
Otherwise that game would have been iced. And we're having
a whole nother conversation about the team, and so I
just look at it. I go, Sam Francisco's got problems.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
They're not healthy.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
It just seems like they're a little bit snake bit
this year. I don't buy into Seattle and who the
hell knows of Arizona, Like the Rams seem like a
legitimate threat in the division. And the idea that you're
gonna move on from Cooper Cup and you know, bring
back a second round pick, why not go for it.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
If you're looking like it not looking happen not the
way they look last night, you can't you can't disrupt
that what you saw last night. Maybe if it goes
the way like you just said, and they lose another
game and they're two and five, maybe you start entertaining
things because maybe it is time to start wondering if
you're punting on the season or not. But the way
(48:41):
they played last night, I just can't see why you
would do anything to disrupt that. Because you making a
statement argument for the NFC West being wide open, you
can make the discussion point for the whole NFC being
wide open because that's one of the top teams. If
we were saying what's the top ten. In fact, I
(49:02):
think we did say Minnesota was the top team in
the NFC last week. I think that was just last
week we had that conversation Troit, Detroit, Detroit We didn't
say Detroit though, we said Minnesota. Well, we said Detroit
and Minnesota at the time, we said because Detroit had
just beat Minnesota. But okay, so maybe it was the
week before because the week before Minnesota will undefeated.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
Correct, And in all fairness to Jonas, he did throw
in Chicago and then Lee said green Bay.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
So there was all those teams show.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Well, I mean, I think you could throw Green Bay
into the conversation of being a good team not the
best team. Everybody shirt can throw Chicago in there. He
definitely Chicago. Definitely ain't throwing Chicago in there.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I mean, Jonas wants to put it in there, but.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yeah, yeah you do.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Sorright.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
See that's a professional. I let it breeze so we
could fit it and have that for later.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
All right, that is okay? Did you even that?
Speaker 5 (49:55):
You didn't take that down at least not even the yet.
Coop's probably still is always still there. It for Coop,
Coop fold fold, be comfortable with whatever whatever show is fold.
All right, but let's wait for the next hand. We've
we've now morphed into two producers. I was telling I
(50:17):
was telling something.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
About you the other day. I forget how the TAPA
came up, but I said yeah.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
I was like, I was like, that's actually one of
the producers used to be an actor who's on Liar Hire.
And then they're asking like wait, what is it? Yeah,
and they're like, how's he doing. I was like, it's
doing great. I was like, he does a great job
on the sticks were buying the scenes and all that.
It looks exactly the same way. I was like, I
think he does pretty good gambling too.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah, is it a World Series of Poker tournament every year?
Speaker 3 (50:44):
I mean, Coop doesn't reach out enough. So that's all
I get. I get like Tea leaves here and there
about his you know whatever poker explained.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
I'd be wanting to give Coop hugs because I just
remembered a kid from Liar Coo.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
He's li Coops, Like Coop's one of the smart ones
that got out of Hollywood, and was like.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
You guys are way too weird for me.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
I'm gonna go do radio, Like I do appreciate Coop's
sense of humor, Like that's why I wish you actually
on the show.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
It's still like hero show. Coop sitting back there like
he's at Award show. Hey, like we're doing a tribute
to Coop. He's about to get his award. Go on, stay, Well,
there's a lot of positive things being said about me
and they're not necessarily all true. Like we know that
if it was better at gambling, I probably wouldn't be here.
(51:31):
That's fair, Yeah, that is fair.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, if you were, if you were Chris Moneymaker, you
wouldn't be sitting at that right right, But listen, you're.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Better than me.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Same thing with Joe, same thing as Jonas Jones. Probably
wouldn't be sitting here either. No, I'd be here. Would
you be here if you were winning?
Speaker 3 (51:48):
That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
You probably do it from home, you know, No, not
trycast it. No, do your Knox locks from home?
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Well, I'd be listening to do it at home. And
so you can get that the light the door kicked
down because is uh, you know, somebody's looking for a
monster truck.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
I'll pass. That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
But Sean McVay, by the way, did address the speculation
about Cooper Cup being on the trade block. Here was
his response afterwards.
Speaker 9 (52:14):
There's a lot of information. Here's what I'll tell you.
Teams reached out. Some of the things that I've seen
out there, they're just not true. You know, We've addressed
that with those individuals. Teams have called.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
About him and and really we we let him know
what the dialogue was there.
Speaker 9 (52:30):
And then there's a lot of stuff out there where
there's not a lot of accountability to the reports, and
that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Do you think the performance tonight makes you guys more
apt to keep to possibly entertain off there.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think about those things.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
I think about coaching our team.
Speaker 9 (52:45):
You know, I think a lot of the things that
were out there speculation was exactly what that was speculation.
We're an inside out organization. I'm really glad to have
Cooper Cup back with us, and that's what I expect
to stay that way.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, Sean, you guys lost last night. It's probably his
last game as a RAM. Let's be honest here, all right,
trade deadlines right around the corner, like you know, to
Brady's point, whole different conversation, recordwise, where this team is
at based on that performance last.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
Night, you cannot just cannot ask the question, am you ask?
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (53:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (53:17):
Am I seeing things when I see these motions and
they're heading towards the line of scrimmage, Like I almost
feel like they're starting to be like Canada foot like
Canadian football. Are you guys seeing that, Like, hey, let's
let's widen those feels. Isn't that supposed to be? You
(53:39):
can't be moving towards the ball when the ball is
being snapped, right, Yeah, I mean like hedging or you
know what I mean, Like if you start hitting, like
even in a in a motion going out, you got
to keep straight or be going backwards. You can't be
going towards the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
You're not supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (53:59):
But I think a lot of it's almost like the
tackles when you see them kick and it feels simultaneous
to win the ball is actually being snapped. I mean,
Lane Johnson is one of the best to do it.
There's a few others too that I see do it.
They get a huge jump on it. It's almost like
that where I'm like, I don't know, man, that feels
like like in that case, those probably should be a
(54:20):
false start or they were probably you know, hedging enough
where you could make that call. But that's part of
the advantage I think when they're going away from the ball,
I don't know that officials view it as as big
of an advantage, but like as when you're going in
towards the ball, it feels like it's a little different,
like they tend to call that more often. Does that
(54:40):
make sense, Yeah, And I think the reason is because
they become an immediate threat to get the football. But
it just feels like any time the more going in
towards to the formation, and maybe since the formation is
there itself, so it's easy to see because those lions,
but when they're going out, I feel like they don't
see it quite as well. But I'm with you, it's
I don't mind it, like I think it looks cool.
Like I personally love all the all the shifts too,
(55:02):
when teams try to make them look like motion, but
they're actual shifts and a lot of the rational behind
it not to.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Try and you know, shoehorn them into the opening segment here.
But you watch those two teams last night and then
he watched the Jets on offense, there is a noticeable
difference between.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
Dude, I've been saying this forever to you guys, like
that was an issue in Green Bay. It looks like
what la Floor wanted to do in the offense and
what Aaron Rodgers wants to do in the offense, and
there's just there's a huge difference. Like remember when Peyton played,
remember those last year is in Denver. You know they
didn't like a lot of movement out around you. So
here's why I'll.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
Put it simple.
Speaker 5 (55:37):
If you have a young, inexperienced quarterback, you can make
things really simple on him. The hard thing is calling
the plays because when you add those shifts and motions
into the play call, it makes it a lot longer
and you have to make sure Evel's lined up correctly.
But once they're lined up correctly, even pre and post shift,
like you could catch defenses off guard and then really
a lot of what you're doing with the reds for
(55:58):
like any pass play, make it what they call more
just a pure progression. I mean you're just going one, two, three,
four five right, five eligible guys you work through that
progression if one's not open, two two, two to three,
three to four, et cetera. That's how they get an
advantage on defenses and they make it look simple. But
when you get guys who are more used to audibling
and changing protections and changing things. They don't want all
(56:20):
that movement because they don't want the defense moving. They
want the defense to try to be right where they're
at and use their cadence. And then once the defense
they feel like they've got to jump on what they're
trying to run, then they want to get into that play.
Like Peyton was like that, Aaron's like that now. And
that's the hard thing is like you don't give yourself
the opportunity to allow your coaching staff to help you
put your offense in a better position for a better play.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, there's just a noticeable difference between the two. By
the way, I did want to mention this to you
guys before we got you know, to break here to
open the show.
Speaker 4 (56:51):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Come on, Senor night, Singer night, Singer night. Come on,
let's do it.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
We do it?
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Come on, do it, do it, do it.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
We got Monzi, we got Monzi, We got Moni, we
got Mozi. Let's do what do what do?
Speaker 5 (57:15):
What?
Speaker 6 (57:16):
Do?
Speaker 1 (57:16):
What? Do?
Speaker 3 (57:16):
What?
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Do?
Speaker 2 (57:17):
What?
Speaker 5 (57:17):
Do?
Speaker 1 (57:17):
What? Do?
Speaker 6 (57:18):
What's what?
Speaker 3 (57:19):
Bride? Do it?
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Like you want to let's do it, Let's do it,
Let's do it, alright, Alright, alright, alright, let's do it
even though Eddie Garcia isn't here. Let's do it Friday anyway,
Friday night in the football, Friday, whoa football Friday?
Speaker 5 (57:39):
Rock sock?
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Do it?
Speaker 5 (57:42):
Yeah, spike it, do it?
Speaker 3 (57:45):
Slid Yeah?
Speaker 4 (57:47):
Come on, do the do the do the things. Do
some football
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Rings and Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So I figured something out and we watched double barrel
action in the NFL last Sun of Monday.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Double barrel action.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
In double barrel meant uh, Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
Well, I mean that was two wide receivers get taken
out from gosh.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
So there were four teams that were featured last night,
but I think there was maybe only one of the
only one the only one of them was good.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
That's said, only one of them is good. We'll say
only one of them showed the hell off. They showed off.
That was a costly game for Tampa Bay last and
that was a showcase for Baltimore as double barrel acts.
As Rob Parker would say, they got worked over like
a Burger and friz that that was a pounding last night.
(01:04):
They started out, I mean they came out the gates
kind of equal, you know it was. It was equal
for a minute there. And that guy dang Lamars Jackson, man,
god Lee, he just he different. That dude's different. It's
so funny. You're watching the game, right and it's like, oh,
Derrick Henry's had a quiet game. He has He's had
(01:25):
a quiet game so far. Man, the very next play,
my man takes off for what was it, like sixty
seventy something like that. So they look pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
The defense looked pretty good. The offense. It's just the
first thing you think of is okay, Lamar's starting to
come on, like he's he's hitting like that, that form
of I'm in season and I feel good in season.
Then you have the element of Derrick Henry being brought
to the table and not to mention, just kind of
(01:58):
the dynamic receiving that they're getting from Andrews and on out.
It just makes you wonder can they do it? And
that's the first thing I thought, Can they do it
in the playoffs? If this team can travel time, travel
into the future and play in the playoffs the way
(02:18):
they played last night, they could they could finally be
that team that makes it to the Super Bowl. They
could be the team that wins the Super Bowl if
they play like they did last night.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
I mean, I think if I was gonna lay a
bet on the AFC versus nfc'd be on the AFC.
I just think there's more, there's better teams in the AFC.
There's probably better quarterback play. If we're being honest with ourselves,
I mean, stack up the top three teams in the NFC,
it'd be what Detroit, San Francisco, Minnesota right now?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, And Detroit's the only one that you really like.
For me, Golf is the only one that I really
hang my hat on. I mean, I like the way
Jordan Love is playing, you know, but band, but not
as good as as what you're seeing Lamar.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes can me come on?
So yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
The thing that always stands out to me is in
the NFL, it's really hard to get guys wide ass open.
It's just hard to find that sort of separation. It
either comes through talent and speed, meaning they're like route
running ability or their speed and be able to actually separate,
or it comes from scheme. You know, you see some
(03:33):
you know play callers are able to scheme things open.
You hear that from time to time, but you know,
usually that's.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
For a small portion of your plays.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
What makes the Baltimore Ravens different it is Lamar's running ability.
You just don't see much Mando man. Everyone is so
scared to play man to man it almost completely eliminates
it from what he's going to see. And so then
you get guys running white ass open through zone coverages
because Babmen and Flowers obviously are deep threats and they're impactful,
(04:05):
and then Andrews and likely kind of running underneath. And
that's not even factoring in Justice Hill or Derek Henry
in the run game or even you know, potential checkdowns
things like that. So it is such a complicated situation.
Defenses are in because you're limited and being able to
play Manda man because no one wants to turn their
back and then let Lamar Jackson out of the pocket
(04:27):
and run for an eternity. So then you got to
play zone with everyone watching Lamar. But then you've got
to try to cover these receivers. Then tight ends that
going to get open in space, they they put more pressure. Sure,
and you can throw in the run game, but we
have to talk about run game like they can throw
the ball every single playoff they want and it will
(04:49):
be effective because every defense is limited and how they
have to approach the Baltimore Ravens and so they're always
going to find production there. And it's just like you
see guys opened the touchdown passed to Babman. I don't
know if there's someone within five yards of him. I
mean Mark Andrews one time we're we're in a little
basic in route and there was no one within ten Yeah,
(05:12):
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, I love it. If he does go to the Super.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Bowl, you know he's gonna win. He's twenty three and
one against the NFC in his career.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Dang, is he really?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Wow? That?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
According to uh Fox Sports, who had that sent out
last night. Now, Pro Football Reference has a different number,
but you know, he's twenty two and three on Pro
Football Reference. But you know you had to do a
deeper dive into all that. By the way, he didn't
know that it is a deeper dive on that. Well,
because I'm trying to figure out why it's twenty three
and one in other places but on Pro Football References
(05:44):
twenty two and three. Like, I'm trying to figure that
one out. It's a little seems a little strange to me.
But regardless, he's been dominant and he's been fantastic, and
last night you're just watching it, and I look came
into the season thinking, all right, well, you know they
lose to Kansas City to open up the year. The
(06:04):
loss to the Raiders, which I still can't explain.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's one of the more bizarre time so preseason.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Okay, that loss to the Raiders was almost the worst
was that Week two was almost worse than the Raiders
lost to the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Now that you look at it, I'm thinking, how did
that happen?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You had to lead in that game, you coughed it up,
and I just assumed, Okay, maybe they'll regress. This isn't
going to be a year that they ascend and they
just get better and better. And Derrick Henry, who was
going into the game the favorite to be Offensive Player
of the year, like it just continues to look like
a home run edition in the offseason. And how to
(06:46):
how Tennessee walked away from that and just decided, well,
we're going to go in a different direction.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
He doesn't look old like, he actually looks better than
he did in Tennessee. Yeh, don't do that. What do
you mean, no, last year compared to this year? Last year? Yeah, okay, no,
like in his peak, absolutely not. But Okay, I know
what you made that you kept it open a little
last year and I.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Was thinking about this too, like if you could have
a dream super Bowl matchup right now, Like if you
could have a super Bowl matchup, who would it be?
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I mean the problem with mine would be I don't
know how it would go.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Which wouldn't include ann NFC team.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Okay, well that's that's fair, but just basic it off
of what I'd have to base it off. Either do
the one that I picked Detroit in case, or Detroit
and Baltimore go that's what I want. I mean want
Detroit Baltimore and I want. But it's such bully ball.
Both teams have the same type of mentality, so it
(07:48):
could actually end up being a bus gang. It could
be a gang where you're like, this is They're really
like it's really a matchup, like you get ten your
art and here you got a punt it and there's a
punt there, and it's like it's going to be a
real football game. And I don't know that the fans
are okay with just enjoying like what a real football
(08:11):
game would look like. I mean, but maybe not a
whole lot of scoring. It would have the potential to
not have a whole lot of scoring, possibly even if
Lamar Jackson being the way that he is as prolific
as he is. It just just to me, it just
seems like. But then again, maybe that's where you get
haunted by the loss of Hutchinson. Maybe that turns out
(08:34):
to be one of those you know but they're saying,
if you know, they do get to a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Now, okay, come on, I think I've found out the
discrepancy too.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
In the record, by the way, that's.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Got some as I'm looking through this, I did find
a loss to the New York Giants in twenty twenty two,
but I think they must have counted.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
A game.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Two games he played in but they but he didn't start.
So the only other two he lost to NFC teams
but he didn't start again is back in twenty eighteen,
I believe, his rookie season, and he threw one pass.
He was one for one against New Orleans and they
lost twenty three twenty four on him apparently, and then
(09:23):
and then the next week at Carolina they lost again
and he was four or five.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But that's it.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Like as far as the regular season, he's only lost
once as a starter to the New York Giants back
in twenty twenty two as a starting quarterback in the NFL,
which is, I mean, you don't even need to figure
out how much money would you make betting on the
Baltimore Ravens this money line over the course of the
(09:51):
regular season his career, because that is that is a
stat that Jonas, you should be throwing out or figuring out,
because you could get back the good graces of all
those people betting out that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, listen, I've tried everything. It's not working. Like I
thought they were gonna regress this year.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Like that sounds that sounds like it's gonna work.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
So yeah, it's it's just not not great for the
NFC if he look, if he could just get past
the damn Chiefs or anybody in the AFC.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Play playoffs, like just the playoffs in general, Like can
we just skip past?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah? Can you can? You?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Like, I mean the way everything was lined up last year,
they at home field were favorite at.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Home against the youth, the youth of of what's what's
my guy's name?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Man, come on, I mean those two plays like that's
the game they probably won that game, like a little meltdown.
And that's all good though, you know, because then you
come back and you're more mature. He looks he looks
to be a very much more mature football player right now.
I like the way Flowers is play. I like the
(10:59):
way Bateman is played. People may not realize Bateman in
college was a dog. You got you have players that's
a top draft what rounded Bateman goes first round. Yeah,
he's a top draft pick. So you're like, it's not
like you don't have It's like that guy is a guy.
(11:22):
Flowers is a guy. Q was singing his praise as
the whole last year in college. They got guys. Andrews
is a guy. They got guys all over that field. Man,
the backup, the change up running back, a guy. Dude
is on fast forward looking like a running back version
(11:45):
of Kyler Murray out there as a running back. I mean, dude,
they got talent. They're like a fab five, a running
rebels type. And then you got the battering ram like
you got Larry Johnson and Derrick Henry, like the enforcer,
Like they are a good looking team bro, and god
dang it, they let us down every year. I tell them.
(12:07):
We say it every year ever since we've done this show.
We picked Baltimore to go to the to the to
the Super Bowl, and they let us down every year.
And I didn't pick them this year. But god dang,
they keep playing like they played last evening. That's going
to be the key. Can they Can they maintain that?
I think you said they they're they're improving every week.
Can they continue to improve every week? You know, once
(12:29):
this season because now we're getting into the meat of
the season and people are familiar with one another. Can
they maintain this trajectory?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
That's a good goal for Lead to live. By the way,
like can he improve each week?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
He die?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
If he improved on what he was doing, that would
be like the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
He I'm not.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
I'm not trying to get him to improve on certain aspects.
I'm trying to get him to improve on like different
areas of life.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Okay, well, now that's fair, like getting a vehicle getting hey, Lead,
getting hell out of the house, getting.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yesterday?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Is that the sequel? Straining order?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Is that the sequel up to the number one?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Because it was kind of im reverse, you know, it
was kind of reverse.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Get out, get out, I mean it's his starring lead
the lasst type of cast.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know, wow racist what he meant him on.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I'm just saying it would be get out in reverse.
I mean that would that would be a definite plot twist, Like,
what do you mean we have to get out?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Lee should be safe?
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I mean, all right, buddy, hey and the.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Car yesterday?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Did you get your car? Lead? I did get the
car yesterday, all right, yeah, is it here? I didn't
see it.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Oh, I don't know if you know what it looks
like yet.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
So just just to clarify, you quote unquote got the
car that you've been driving.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I have not driving your grandmother's car.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
It is my my Yes, it is my grandma.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
You're claiming to have just now gotten this car, even
though you've been driving it for a while.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
I have not been driving it for a while. I've
been driving another car for a while, which was a That.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Was what was confusing yesterday.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
It wasn't it a grandparents car. That was your mom's
folks car. Your mom's car. Yeah, okay, we know it
was some type of parent. So if I brandom car,
is it a Buick?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
No, I've had a Buick before, It says Infinity. Yes,
it's an Infinity G thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Oh, it's not a bad car.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's Graham's drive driving nice.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Yeah, it's a it's a great car.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I just I assumed it's your car, it's my car.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Assumed it was something a little more older people would drive.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
It is something it's a little older people would drive.
But it's it's nice.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
It's all right. I mean, I'm not judging. You got
a point B.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
How much did your grandpa SELTZI for?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Really good? I'm just curious, like, what's that I got.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
I got a little bit of a deal.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
You knows, definitely wanted to make a few bucks off
of it. I think we both helped each other out.
But it's been it's been well taken care of. It's
only got forty five thousand miles on it for an
eight did you play? Did you pay Kelly blue Book
price for it?
Speaker 4 (15:30):
No? I paid lower? Okay, how much lower? How much lower?
A couple of thousand, only a couple of thousand? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
How much did grandpa make any money on it?
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah he did?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yeah, all right, made a few a few shekels.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
Well, I don't know if I don't know what you
mean by made money, like if he made a profit
or anything that it was paid off.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
It's been paid for. It's been paid off. So yeah,
for like.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Twenty could have sold it for if you just put
it out there.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
In the market, he could have sold it for about
say ten to ten eleven thousand.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Okay, And I'm guessing you got a few grand underneath that, correct. Dang,
it's your grandfather.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Yeah, and his grandson shouldn't be getting Paul a little
because family discover something grandfather wants.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Did he strat cash home?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Did he ask you to at least replace the booze
that you drank out of his dead wife's liquor cabinet.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
No, he gave me some extra bottles to put in
the truck.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Good for him. Riverside Leve.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
What have you ever once talked about your grandfather?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I mean he talks about Todd all the time, exactly,
certainly not as much as Todd now granddad. And then
plugged him with the infinity with the Infinity link, unbelievable.
You're a horrible joke.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Taking advantage of elderly people are horrible.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
The plug I think we were both helping each other
out here, like all the way no, Diddy, does he
even know that he sold you the car?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Like is he to wake up today and go, where's
where's the car? He? Lee? What happened at the bus stower?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
If you know Alan, you know he was the one
who was like trying to get a few extra shekels.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Alan was sitting at the bus stop yesterday.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
He's like, it's in pristine condition. It's not in pristine condition,
but it's so he was selling you.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Oh yeah, you know it's.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Gonna be really messed up because when Lee's driving it
around and he goes by like a senior center somewhere,
and some old guys like and.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
They recognize it.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I think that's Mama's car. I know that back seat?
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Oh wow, oh dang. Not not Carol, not caring, mam,
what what is the Carol? And Mom? Call mom Carol,
not Carol Mom. Ain't nobody fitting car anywhere?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
It's got a big back seat back there.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
It does not have a big back seat. Ain't nobody
big enough.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Infinity took me in, an took her to infiniting me
off beyond.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well listen on the rise, and I think it's a
sweet deal. Mileage price.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
We have a problem in the back. I'm asking, what
would you do, Carol mom and burn it so you'd
have to grab it then to go take it to burn?
Is what you're saying? Was a roll in stone riding?
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Quinn is out of control right now. I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
I'm just talking about my dead grandma.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Oh yeah, the one that you rated your liquor cabinet
as soon as she died. It sounds like you really emotional.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
But we were close like that, Oh my god. What
it means very close like that we would be drinking
what planes gravel?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Brady is out of control, bro.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Just I think there's a chance that you don't know
everything she was doing outside of you guys drinking and
playing scrabble together.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
I want to go check the car out during the break.
Let's do it, Yeah, I say.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Black light?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
There we go, say we take a black light.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Coop's looking it up right now, somebody already looking up,
looking up the price.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
What do we hide?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
He thinks I got a good deal.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
That's very coot. What what do you got, Coop? Coop's like,
I don't even want to do it to you. Lee,
don't even want to say what the information is.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
We will we will get to the bottom of that
and so much more here on the show.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. Eastern three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
So, speaking of Wednesday traditions, there's a little somebody we
talked to every single Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
He comes on the show and he just lights it up.
What's his nag?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's the old p Yah Petros Papadakis, the co host
of the Petros and Money Show, which you can get
on the Blowtorch and La Sports, Fox College football analyst
and our good buddy Pee.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
What's happening?
Speaker 5 (20:27):
Good morning morning, Hello, I'm here, i'd pee good morning
just to everybody.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Good morning yeah Pee.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
By the way, I hate to start this off on
a on a down note, but obviously the news of
the passing of the great Fernando Valenzuela, which people maybe
nationally don't get the gravity that that holds. But man,
when he was here and playing like Fernando Mania was
a real thing.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Pee, Yeah, and it really was like an eighties thing
throughout the eighties. He was a Dodger from night eighty
to nineteen ninety and then he played pro baseball for
seven more years, all over the place, pinch hitting, playing
first base, playing in the major leagues, playing in the
Mexican leagues. And yeah, it's pretty hard to quantify. I
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guesslynsanity you could think about, and what a big deal
that was nationally for like a week, Fernando Mania was that,
but the player was really really good and it was
like ten.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Years oh wow.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
And the thing about the Dodgers that makes it so
much cooler than anything as far as sports go in
Los Angeles, because the Lakers is just a douche fest.
It always It's not always been that way, but is
Somewhere around twenty five years ago, pro basketball priced everybody
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out that really wanted to be there, and then it's.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Only gotten worse and worse.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
And believe it or not, the way he died was
so tragic that it erased a lot of the polarization
that Kobe was in town. There were a lot of
Laker fans, people that grew up with Jerry West and
Wilt Chamberlain and a lot more that grew up with
Magic Johnson and Worthy in Kareem that did not like
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the Shaq and Kobe infighting and were really kind of
polarized by that, and then polarized again by Kobe's behavior
and the whole.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Way that that ended.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
And then they are polarized again by Lebron and sort
of him renting the Lakers and doing what he wants
with him with Genie Buzz asleep at the switch, and
that's Laker fandom. The Dodgers have always been great and
fun in Los Angeles as long as I can remember,
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and I was born in nineteen seventy seven because of
the Latino fan base. I mean, the Latino fan base
is what makes the Dodgers cool. If we didn't have
the Latino fan base in La and not just Mexicans,
which Bernando was, but you know Guatemala, l Salvador, everything.
You know people from those cultures, and it makes the
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Dodgers fun.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
It makes the Dodgers different. It connects people.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
In the city who would have no real exposure to that.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Kind of flavor. I guess, as Vic the Brick would say,
fla Bah.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
We would not we would not know about a lot
of this stuff. It wasn't for the Dodgers. I mean,
for God's sakes, people are in there drinking michiladas. You
know that's you can't get Like yes, but it's like
you get some stockbroker guy who's like a hedge fund
Orange County guy drinking a Michalana next to some dude
with a face tattoo, and that's the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's been a great thing, totally.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, it really had.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
And you can I mean, come on, Joe, you know this,
and it's a beautiful thing. And I could just remember
I worked in the kitchen at my dad's restaurant from
the age of like eight to fourteen or thirteen till
I finally graduated legal no, And I mean Fernando was
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our patron saint in that kitchen. And if he was pitching,
God help us. If anybody interrupted us for an order
or an appetizer to have something washed. If Fernando was
on the mound. Crazy thing was he was a great
hitter too. He was a gold Glover. And Fernando Mania
just ignited an already very excitable Latino fan base and
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galvanized something and it never really stopped. El Toro was
his nickname, The Bull, and then on another great moment
is he threw a no hitter as a Dodger, And
there's a very famous call, of course from another dear
departm art Saint of the franchise, Vin Scully, to me,
the greatest announcer that ever lived, and he threw a
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no hitter, and Vin said, if you have a sombrero,
throw it to the sky. I'm sure you'll hear that
a bunch of times. In the next few days. He
was sick and people knew that it wasn't going well,
and all the obits were written. Bill Plashki from the
La Times wrote a beautiful one. But yeah, I think
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it's kind of hard to quantify for people outside of
the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I think in San Diego and San Francisco and stuff
they get for nandomania. Maybe beyond that they don't.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
But it wasn't just likelysanity where it was a fun
thing for a couple of weeks. This guy settled down
and was a workhorse and a star on the Dodgers
for the better part of a decade, winning world series,
pitching no hitters and being a literal god to the
entire community, but.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Just a huge hero to he knows everywhere, and it
was it was really.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Something to be around for. And God rest his soul.
Very sad, Yeah, very sad.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
I want a transition here, not ever easy to do
after talked about something like this, But speaking of God's
I want to talk about a player who maybe thinks
he's God.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Just last night, the Lakers Lebron.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Oh wow, a moment for them, Petros and really what
that means for the league and for Lebron's legacy and
the Lakers legacy. I mean, talk to me about how
excited you were to see that last time.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
It was great because I was watching and I was like, wow,
this feels a little awkward, right, this might be not
the same as Ken Griffy Jr. I was watching that,
I was like, you know, maybe this is a little different.
But then you have all these Twitter feeds and stuff
that watched Lebron's sack.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And they tell me what a great and historic and
fabulous moment it is. So I'm like, Okay, I'm witnessing history,
but I'm still at a little weird inside because I'm
like this is a little awkward. You know, I know,
this kid wasn't even All League in high school. Two
years ago. And it's not like he was better in college.
Of course, he had that heart thing, which should probably
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be a hindrance and not an excuse as to why
he's not better, and maybe not draft him, leave him
in college for another couple of years because he had
a cardiac problem.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
But that's okay.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
You know he's here and they did the draft and
we've been talking about it, and then I was a
little nervous. And then I heard Candas Parker tell me
three things that made me feel a lot better. She
told me that Brownie works hard.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
She told me that Brownie's a professional, and she told
me that Brownie has a great attitude. And I was like,
I feel better about this.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
This is great.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Is that sarcasm? Why are you being? For real?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I am being one hundred percent sarcastic.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I was he talking to you or were you listening to.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Well, you know, she was doing she was doing the
commentary kind of laid out for her because I don't
feel like the other two really wanted to be on
too much record. She was probably there, but and whatever,
that's those are the talking points, right, That's what Genie
Buss said when she came on our show.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
That's what JJ Reddick said and all that, and I
guess that's what we were all waiting for. And now
he's gonna go to the G League for the rest
of the year. I I don't know, but in Los
Angeles it's totally eclipsed by Fernando, even though ESPN has
the Bronni headline above the Fernando thing. Nationally, A few
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people pointed that out to me last night, and a
few people pointed out to me that, Wow, what a
crazy thing that this happened, Almost like eclipsing the the
Bronny thing on purpose, you know, but obviously not, but
some people look at that in that way. Uh, yeah,
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it happened. It was I mean, I felt really manufactured.
And I know that everybody has the argument, well, what
does the fifty fifth pick usually do? And what do
you care and all that. It it just feels like
a major manipulation of of what we thought of as
a pretty pure system, the meritocracy of being in the
NBA or professional sports. And we've talked about it a
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whole bunch, and I think this has been a plan
of people's for three four years, regardless of whether or
not Browny was going to be ready for it. They
were going to force it down our throats and we all,
we all felt it last.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Night speaking of manipulation. What what's the latest tactics that
will be needed and used by USC after allowing the
Terps to you know, overcome. They got go goed, They
got go goed, right, they.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Got they got the byb The backyard band just started
band on the backyard Band and the Huckabucks.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
They goescence, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
They started to bang on the upside down buckets and
the Trojans just couldn't hang. I mean, guys, I think
Lincoln Riley in his first eleven games was ten and
one at USC, and after they lost that game to
Utah and Caleb Williams was crying. Remember that if they won,
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they would have gone into the playoff and they lost
that game at Utah. Caleb was hurt the Pack twelve
championship game and Lincoln Riley said, this is.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
The worst will ever be at USC football. He was
rest a shirt. Well, actually, yeah, that was the best
they were the last eleven games.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
They're four and.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Seven at USC and people say, well, you know, if
we had Caleb Williams, it would be different. It's like, well,
Caleb Williams was one in six or one in five
in his last a handful of starts at USC, and
then people say, well, if we weren't in the Big ten,
we'd take it all in Pack twelve. It's like, well,
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last year you lost, you were about a five hundred team,
and that was in the Pac twelve And what's so
different now. The thing that's upsetting to me is that
Notre Dame game, or sorry, the LSU game with the
Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly was an anomaly, and I
thought of it as this gigantic sign of change for USC.
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I thought of it as, wow, look what's happened here.
They are playing a blue blood, a great representative of
a team that's built up on the offensive and defensive line,
a team with blue blood skill on the perimeter, a
team that's going to try to push the lone of
scrimmage and us he stood up to that. They were
the more disciplined team. They tackled in the open field,
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their quarterback made plays, they ran the ball enough to win.
All of those things that happened in that game gave
me hope. And it turned out that game was the
burp in the universe. Brian Kelly deserved to be pissed,
pounding on the table like Nikiti Kruz Jeff because he
knew he lost to a bad team and nobody else did.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I guess, And USC.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Since then has lost at Maryland at Minnesota. I mean,
you guys know the Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
If you lose at Maryland and at Minnesota, what kind
of team are you in the Big Ten? You're terrible.
You're not gonna win, You're not gonna be mentioned. You're done.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's over.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
And that's disturbing the fact that they're throwing the ball
fifty times to twenty when clearly their best player on
offense is the running back. What he marks? It's bad.
You know, Lincoln Riley doesn't look like a head coach.
This is a pattern of losing. People are showing pictures
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on Twitter for the USC sideline of everybody. Well, at
least they're not picking their boogers like Rogers was. You know, Yeah,
I don't get that. I mean, I'd pick my nose
like everybody, but I don't eat it.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Yeah that was.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
I don't either, Trust me. We broke it down. Framed
by a frame. The three steps to actually picking then
eating a booger. But I digress. They're one and four
in Big Ten play. They've got Rutgers at Washington versus
Nebraska at UCLA than Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
They might not be Bowl eligible.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
So so, but is there a breaking point here where
the administration goes because this is obviously a new university president,
a new athletic director.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Right, I think the president was there when he was hired.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Okay, yeah, so but new athletic director. Yeah, Jen Cohen,
who I like a lot. Yeah, she seems awesome, but
it's not her higher so at some point a million
dollars buyout and a ten year deal they gave him.
So so you're saying, there's no way they've got to
live with this this season.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Regardless of how bad this gets.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
This season, they might be in purgatory for years.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
I mean, the guy that stepped up and paid off
Clay Hilton's contractors were the worst in college football history.
CAA took advantage of Lynn Swan and made Clay Hilton
a rich man.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Well, so much experience being an athletic director. I made
complete sense.
Speaker 8 (34:12):
Well, he had yelled at me and said I ran
the boys club and I was like, okay, So I
was like, you don't have a lot of experience. Excuse me,
Oh okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Well but Pat Hayden had a ton of administrative experience.
Speaker 8 (34:26):
Too, right, Yeah, well this is what happens, right, this
is why we're ten years behind everybody else. But Lynn
Swann gave Clay Hilton a terrible contract. It turns out
Lincoln Riley's might be worse, and he was viewed as
a savior for USC football. A guy named Rick Caruso,
very rich guy in LA who owns the Americana Big
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shopping center.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
He built the grove. Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
He gave ninety million dollars to USC to make this happen.
Spoke at the Lincoln press conference and used it as
kind of a it's like some LA confidential type of stuff,
used it as sort of a springboard to his mayoral campaign,
and everybody was so happy and coming out of COVID,
the USC football was going to be fixed. That no
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one kind of blinked twice at the ten year deal
with the seventy million dollar buyout that your guy, Mike Boone,
the athletic director at the time, gate you don't even
know how much fun we're going to have with Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You're right, I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
And whatever happened there, he still ended up losing the
mayoral race to a lady with a buzz cut. And yeah,
so he got ninety million dollars for nothing and we
got bar is what you're saying. I don't know, we
got mayor buzz cut here in La Karen Bass And uh.
(35:50):
And I don't know if you think he's going to
pony up the other another ninety million to pay off
Lincoln Riley and bring somebody new in.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I doubt it, probably not without the bone a Reno
trying to evince you know, I don't know who. I
honestly don't know what USC is going to do. But
USC and U c l A Football appear to be broken.
And I don't think they were broken by the Big ten.
I just think they're broke, you know, because Oregan's great,
They're fine, you know, they they didn't get pushed around
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in the big Big ten test and Washington's not helpless.
But SC and U c l A. Man, they are
a they are a punchline.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Hey, Petris. I wanted to also send condolences to you
and yours before I let you go on the loss
of SPEEDO. Oh just hope, hope everybody is is doing well.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
There's a rough weekend here at the end. My daughter's
hamster died. Oh hamster. My wife would not all the
lizards fine, I'd retire. Uh wasn't I'd retire.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (36:55):
My daughter has a hamster, and they're supposed to live
a certain amount of time. And I think it lived
out it's life and started to like really slow down.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
And what does that look like?
Speaker 5 (37:03):
I don't I don't see much like poke at it
and then moves more and I don't know. Uh, and uh.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
My wife left town for some kind of retreat and
the hamster died on me while my wife was out
of town.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Oh no, you're gonna blame.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
My son tried to uh survive it with mouth to mouth.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, you know he really did. You know, you could
blow out their lungs doing that.
Speaker 8 (37:28):
I think it did. It was like, well, it started
convulsing and die and then you know, a lot of
people suggested I give it the old Viking funeral, which
is just throw it into the bushes or light it
on fire or something. But now it's in the freezer
because my daughter wants it stuffed through a butthole. Uh,
I guess is that's how you stuff it. She looked
it up and.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Uh she wanted that specific detail.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
That's what she said.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
And then it's I guess it's fifteen hundred bucks to
stuff a hamster.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Oh my god, I have to drive it.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I'd have to drive it to O High.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
It's nice up there, though there's some up there.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I know I have a business meeting. You can write
it off, take it into the Dutch. Trust me.
Speaker 8 (38:13):
They don't want to meet with me. But yes, the
hamster died and it was a big faith. Well what
bothered me it's not the cost. It was the emotional toll.
But what bothered me was, you know, everybody was like,
oh my god, you know, because.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
They know my daughter's volatile.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
My daughter's like wear's a breathe right all day for
no reason, like all day like Neil Smith on the.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
People are always like, hey, what happened to your nose?
Like she's she's an eccentric. I don't know if that
surprises you.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Uhh. But everybody's like, so people know my daughter and
they're like, god, dude, What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
That hamster died? What are you gonna do? She's gonna
freak out. She did a freak out. What are you
gonna do?
Speaker 5 (39:00):
It's like, well, I'm not gonna bring it back to life, Guys,
I'm not you know that ability? Yeah, I'm not gonna
touch it and bring it back to life. I'm not
gonna What am I gonna do? I'm gonna tell her
that hamster died and she did a great job with
it and it had a great life. What do you mean?
What am I gonna do? I'm not gonna freaking hook
it up to a little thing and put a thing.
We're gonna stuff it, wait for lightning and put it
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on the roof and.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Scream well weekend atspos?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah? Wait, are we gonna stuff this thing?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I I hope. I literally like a two percent chance
that it's gonna get stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Are you going to get another hamster? That?
Speaker 8 (39:38):
She all, well, here's what happened. Then later that night
we started, you know, I had to comfort her. So
she has slept in the bed with me, uh and
moms out of town, and so we watched.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
The TCU game, which is a late TCU Stanford is
that is that? Is that comforting that I.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Was playing a TCU played Utah Utah utah tc who's
playing Utah.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
It's a hell of a wake who got the TCU game?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Loved it?
Speaker 5 (40:02):
She wanted, and then she's like, what's that?
Speaker 8 (40:04):
I said, it's a horn frog and she got really
excited and started looking.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Up horn frog. He wants a horn frog as a pet,
which is not legal. Turns out took me a couple
of days to figure that out. There's three type of
horn frogs and none of them are legal to have, so.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
They got them exotic places. Though you still get.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It, you know, I don't even think you can get
it outside it I don't know.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Anyway, The point is that became a bit of an
obsession for a couple hours. And now the Vikings game
came on and I was like, hey, look there's football,
and she's like, is it the horn frogs?
Speaker 8 (40:37):
And I was like no. She's like, but they're purple.
I said yeah. She said, what are they the Pirates?
I said, no, the Vikings. She was it's the same
thing and walked out. I guess, I guess a pirate
and a Viking pretty similar.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Pe We appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Always good stuff at the Old peon x is where
you can find him. He's the cost to the Petros
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Speaker 4 (41:19):
Have very real issues, man, they are what's you doing?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Now? What is you doing? They're so real?
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Man, I don't know who taught this man his grammar
and language? Man, what do you mean? It's so horrible
what you're supposed to be a sailor with that mouth?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Bro? Man, do.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Man?
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Does he have that foul mouth? It's so bottied up
that I do? Is the way I re tyraq?
Speaker 2 (41:51):
No?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Maybe yeah game last night last night we got MONSI
in today. That's got me a little pump, ye afraid?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
How you doing? Okay?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I'm happy to be here, Happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
That's how you've been.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
I've been good. How are you? I see you on
TV every week, So I you know, I feel like
I haven't missed you even though I haven't seen I
haven't been with you guys in forever.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
But I see you Brady Quinn on TV.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
I see you guys every now and then coming in
at six am.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
You know, will there be some Top Golf beef today?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Of course, audition, But when's the last time you've been
at top Golf?
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Though it's been a minute. We have only been to
the one in Vegas.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
I haven't gone to the one in El Segundo. They
opened one in that.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
One all the same, Yeah, they are all the same,
and I missed the ball the same way.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
That's the problem with that place is like it's cool.
I one or two times, then after a while you're like,
all right, I kind of get it, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well do you guys have that casm out there?
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yes, the place you go.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Have you been to that yet?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I have not been, No, But apparently it's sold out
for a game one of the World Series. Of course.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I think that place is the future.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Like, if you can't go to a game, I don't
know that there's a better venue to watch something than
that place. I think that's the coolest thing that there is.
Right now, I'm with it. Let's go do it.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm gonna go with my back patio with not another
human being within five miles probably the way.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
You okay, do you have the pa And then there's
that which isn't a bad one either.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Christmas lights. Yeah, the Christmas lights up. No, that'll go
up a day after Thanksgiving in the backyard.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Oh yeah, you're talking about like the white ones that
go out back LeVar.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Yeah, I thought that was all year, Like I have
lights out back.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Oh yeah, you're lights if they're like the what do
you call those?
Speaker 5 (43:53):
Like lantern light but you know I'm talking about not
Christmas lights, but they're kind of similar.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
They're like little little bulb light balls. Yeah, string lights. Right, yeah,
you have that out back?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Now if there are any color other than white, did
they not work?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Oh no, but that's like a big thing.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
What do you mean in the backyard? Yeah, adds to
the abbiance. Man, it's nice.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
It does. It does.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
It's like a lot of partying goes. You can put
that anywhere. I think it's yelping and yelling. What do
you get?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, we trying to say now, Okay, were trying to say, Now.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Let me guess, like a little little uh sombreros lying
around and is that what you're getting at here?
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Something like that a more authentic variation though, Yeah, one
more time, Jonas, that one wasn't bad. Now, I wasn't
bad with the lights though. You gotta for some reason,
you gotta have what I hear them yelps, you gotta
have the lights, man. I'm just I've witnessed this with
my own two Yeah. So that's uh, that's how it
(45:09):
is out here, all right. You know what else is
out here? What a team that shouldn't be thinking about
trading Cooper Cup on the season? Ye play like this.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
That offense for the Rams looks completely different with Poka
Nakua and Cooper Cup out there. They could make some
noise in that division. I swear like, I don't. I
do not think it's over. I don't think it's over yet.
And that was an interesting game. Do we want to
address the missed face mask or.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
It was a miss? It was a miss, I mean,
and that possibly could have been a part of the
game going a different direction. Possibly, I don't know, you
never know. It was a mess though it was a
miss call.
Speaker 5 (45:53):
And watching the Vikings offense and Sam Darnold, was there
a part of you It's like I could see this.
I could see why they want to trade for Stafford.
I mean, Stafford played well. I don't think Darnold played bad.
I don't think he played bad at all. Actually, I
thought I thought it was a pretty balanced game. I
thought there was.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
I thought there was a lot of offense without a
ton of finishing drives, is what I thought it was.
I mean, I thought the defenses played well. I thought
it was like a balanced game. I actually enjoyed watching
that game because I thought it was two good teams
playing against one another. That's that's what I thought. And listen,
but Sam, Sam or Matthew Stafford, he was he was
(46:32):
he was dealing, man, he was dealing. Bro.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
It's crazy to think that three and four and two
and five are like life.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
Changing this season for this team. If they would have
lost last night, I think you're saying, like, that's a rap.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Yeah, two and five, Yeah, that's so hard. That's hard
to climb out of that hole. That's a hard one.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
And they look like not only do they get that
that much need it when but they look good like
the The the question I asked soon as the game
was over is can they stay healthy? That's that's three
and three and four? Yeah, three, Yeah, you're right, Yeah,
you're right. Okay, it's that's going to be the biggest question.
(47:18):
Ken Matthew Stafford stay healthy. Ken Nakua stay healthy, Ken
Cupps stay healthy? Can they stay healthy?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Oh, line's gonna get healthier. They're getting a couple of
guys back by I saw week ten. So that's that's why.
You know, we were talking about, you know, Cooper Cup
could be traded and all that, and Sean McVay said,
you know, none of that is true. I think, you know,
it probably changed, especially after last night. But I just
looked at it. I go, they're not that far off.
And if you just go back to this season, Look,
(47:46):
they probably should have beaten Detroit. They had the lead
late and it was a missed completion on third down.
Otherwise that game would have been iced. And we're having
a whole nother conversation about the team, and so I
just look at it. I go, Sam Francisco's got problems.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
They're not healthy.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
It just seems like they're a little bit snake bit
this year. I don't buy into Seattle and who the
hell knows of Arizona, Like the Rams seem like a
legitimate threat in the division. And the idea that you're
gonna move on from Cooper Cup and you know, bring
back a second round pick, why not go for it.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
If you're looking like it not looking happen not the
way they look last night, you can't you can't disrupt
that what you saw last night. Maybe if it goes
the way like you just said, and they lose another
game and they're two and five, maybe you start entertaining
things because maybe it is time to start wondering if
you're punting on the season or not. But the way
(48:41):
they played last night, I just can't see why you
would do anything to disrupt that. Because you making a
statement argument for the NFC West being wide open, you
can make the discussion point for the whole NFC being
wide open because that's one of the top teams. If
we were saying what's the top ten. In fact, I
(49:02):
think we did say Minnesota was the top team in
the NFC last week. I think that was just last
week we had that conversation Troit, Detroit, Detroit We didn't
say Detroit though, we said Minnesota. Well, we said Detroit
and Minnesota at the time, we said because Detroit had
just beat Minnesota. But okay, so maybe it was the
week before because the week before Minnesota will undefeated.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
Correct, And in all fairness to Jonas, he did throw
in Chicago and then Lee said green Bay.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
So there was all those teams show.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Well, I mean, I think you could throw Green Bay
into the conversation of being a good team not the
best team. Everybody shirt can throw Chicago in there. He
definitely Chicago. Definitely ain't throwing Chicago in there.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I mean, Jonas wants to put it in there, but.
Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yeah, yeah you do.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Sorright.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
See that's a professional. I let it breeze so we
could fit it and have that for later.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
All right, that is okay? Did you even that?
Speaker 5 (49:55):
You didn't take that down at least not even the yet.
Coop's probably still is always still there. It for Coop,
Coop fold fold, be comfortable with whatever whatever show is fold.
All right, but let's wait for the next hand. We've
we've now morphed into two producers. I was telling I
(50:17):
was telling something.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
About you the other day. I forget how the TAPA
came up, but I said yeah.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
I was like, I was like, that's actually one of
the producers used to be an actor who's on Liar Hire.
And then they're asking like wait, what is it? Yeah,
and they're like, how's he doing. I was like, it's
doing great. I was like, he does a great job
on the sticks were buying the scenes and all that.
It looks exactly the same way. I was like, I
think he does pretty good gambling too.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah, is it a World Series of Poker tournament every year?
Speaker 3 (50:44):
I mean, Coop doesn't reach out enough. So that's all
I get. I get like Tea leaves here and there
about his you know whatever poker explained.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
I'd be wanting to give Coop hugs because I just
remembered a kid from Liar Coo.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
He's li Coops, Like Coop's one of the smart ones
that got out of Hollywood, and was like.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
You guys are way too weird for me.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
I'm gonna go do radio, Like I do appreciate Coop's
sense of humor, Like that's why I wish you actually
on the show.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
It's still like hero show. Coop sitting back there like
he's at Award show. Hey, like we're doing a tribute
to Coop. He's about to get his award. Go on, stay, Well,
there's a lot of positive things being said about me
and they're not necessarily all true. Like we know that
if it was better at gambling, I probably wouldn't be here.
(51:31):
That's fair, Yeah, that is fair.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, if you were, if you were Chris Moneymaker, you
wouldn't be sitting at that right right, But listen, you're.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Better than me.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Same thing with Joe, same thing as Jonas Jones. Probably
wouldn't be sitting here either. No, I'd be here. Would
you be here if you were winning?
Speaker 3 (51:48):
That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
You probably do it from home, you know, No, not
trycast it. No, do your Knox locks from home?
Speaker 2 (51:55):
Well, I'd be listening to do it at home. And
so you can get that the light the door kicked
down because is uh, you know, somebody's looking for a
monster truck.
Speaker 4 (52:02):
I'll pass. That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
But Sean McVay, by the way, did address the speculation
about Cooper Cup being on the trade block. Here was
his response afterwards.
Speaker 9 (52:14):
There's a lot of information. Here's what I'll tell you.
Teams reached out. Some of the things that I've seen
out there, they're just not true. You know, We've addressed
that with those individuals. Teams have called.
Speaker 3 (52:25):
About him and and really we we let him know
what the dialogue was there.
Speaker 9 (52:30):
And then there's a lot of stuff out there where
there's not a lot of accountability to the reports, and
that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Do you think the performance tonight makes you guys more
apt to keep to possibly entertain off there.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think about those things.
Speaker 5 (52:43):
I think about coaching our team.
Speaker 9 (52:45):
You know, I think a lot of the things that
were out there speculation was exactly what that was speculation.
We're an inside out organization. I'm really glad to have
Cooper Cup back with us, and that's what I expect
to stay that way.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah, Sean, you guys lost last night. It's probably his
last game as a RAM. Let's be honest here, all right,
trade deadlines right around the corner, like you know, to
Brady's point, whole different conversation, recordwise, where this team is
at based on that performance last.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
Night, you cannot just cannot ask the question, am you ask?
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (53:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (53:17):
Am I seeing things when I see these motions and
they're heading towards the line of scrimmage, Like I almost
feel like they're starting to be like Canada foot like
Canadian football. Are you guys seeing that, Like, hey, let's
let's widen those feels. Isn't that supposed to be? You
(53:39):
can't be moving towards the ball when the ball is
being snapped, right, Yeah, I mean like hedging or you
know what I mean, Like if you start hitting, like
even in a in a motion going out, you got
to keep straight or be going backwards. You can't be
going towards the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
You're not supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (53:59):
But I think a lot of it's almost like the
tackles when you see them kick and it feels simultaneous
to win the ball is actually being snapped. I mean,
Lane Johnson is one of the best to do it.
There's a few others too that I see do it.
They get a huge jump on it. It's almost like
that where I'm like, I don't know, man, that feels
like like in that case, those probably should be a
(54:20):
false start or they were probably you know, hedging enough
where you could make that call. But that's part of
the advantage I think when they're going away from the ball,
I don't know that officials view it as as big
of an advantage, but like as when you're going in
towards the ball, it feels like it's a little different,
like they tend to call that more often. Does that
(54:40):
make sense, Yeah, And I think the reason is because
they become an immediate threat to get the football. But
it just feels like any time the more going in
towards to the formation, and maybe since the formation is
there itself, so it's easy to see because those lions,
but when they're going out, I feel like they don't
see it quite as well. But I'm with you, it's
I don't mind it, like I think it looks cool.
Like I personally love all the all the shifts too,
(55:02):
when teams try to make them look like motion, but
they're actual shifts and a lot of the rational behind
it not to.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Try and you know, shoehorn them into the opening segment here.
But you watch those two teams last night and then
he watched the Jets on offense, there is a noticeable
difference between.
Speaker 5 (55:17):
Dude, I've been saying this forever to you guys, like
that was an issue in Green Bay. It looks like
what la Floor wanted to do in the offense and
what Aaron Rodgers wants to do in the offense, and
there's just there's a huge difference. Like remember when Peyton played,
remember those last year is in Denver. You know they
didn't like a lot of movement out around you. So
here's why I'll.
Speaker 3 (55:37):
Put it simple.
Speaker 5 (55:37):
If you have a young, inexperienced quarterback, you can make
things really simple on him. The hard thing is calling
the plays because when you add those shifts and motions
into the play call, it makes it a lot longer
and you have to make sure Evel's lined up correctly.
But once they're lined up correctly, even pre and post shift,
like you could catch defenses off guard and then really
a lot of what you're doing with the reds for
(55:58):
like any pass play, make it what they call more
just a pure progression. I mean you're just going one, two, three,
four five right, five eligible guys you work through that
progression if one's not open, two two, two to three,
three to four, et cetera. That's how they get an
advantage on defenses and they make it look simple. But
when you get guys who are more used to audibling
and changing protections and changing things. They don't want all
(56:20):
that movement because they don't want the defense moving. They
want the defense to try to be right where they're
at and use their cadence. And then once the defense
they feel like they've got to jump on what they're
trying to run, then they want to get into that play.
Like Peyton was like that, Aaron's like that now. And
that's the hard thing is like you don't give yourself
the opportunity to allow your coaching staff to help you
put your offense in a better position for a better play.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, there's just a noticeable difference between the two. By
the way, I did want to mention this to you
guys before we got you know, to break here to
open the show.
Speaker 4 (56:51):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (56:57):
Come on, Senor night, Singer night, Singer night. Come on,
let's do it.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
We do it?
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Come on, do it, do it, do it.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
We got Monzi, we got Monzi, We got Moni, we
got Mozi. Let's do what do what do?
Speaker 5 (57:15):
What?
Speaker 6 (57:16):
Do?
Speaker 1 (57:16):
What? Do?
Speaker 3 (57:16):
What?
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Do?
Speaker 2 (57:17):
What?
Speaker 5 (57:17):
Do?
Speaker 1 (57:17):
What? Do?
Speaker 6 (57:18):
What's what?
Speaker 3 (57:19):
Bride? Do it?
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Like you want to let's do it, Let's do it,
Let's do it, alright, Alright, alright, alright, let's do it
even though Eddie Garcia isn't here. Let's do it Friday anyway,
Friday night in the football, Friday, whoa football Friday?
Speaker 5 (57:39):
Rock sock?
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Do it?
Speaker 5 (57:42):
Yeah, spike it, do it?
Speaker 3 (57:45):
Slid Yeah?
Speaker 4 (57:47):
Come on, do the do the do the things. Do
some football
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