November 9, 2024 • 45 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the NFL has a clear parity problem. NFL Columnist Pete Prisco stops by for his weekly visit. And the Ravens deliver an all-time classic win vs the Bengals on TNF.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings Brady Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So what what's your problem here, Brady with like, you know,
the the big group of mediocre, the bad football teams
in the NFL. What's you're like, you can't give a
little bit of love to some two and seven football
teams that are running rampant in the league. Like everybody's
got to be the chief?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
You mean the nine of them? Like, I mean, you're
talking about the nine of the teams that have two wins? Like,
doesn't everybody deserve a fair shot here?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Parody of of mediocrity?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Dude, geez, Like you've got You've got nearly a third
of your league with two wins right now. This is
how I described this because now that the election is
is over, we can purely strictly focus on you know,
the NFL. College football is good stuff. The NFL is
a parody problem. I kind of mentioned this a little
bit yesterday, but I want to dig a little deeper
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so people at home can really under.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Stand where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We're nine weeks in the season, okay, heading into week ten,
we have nine teams who have two wins. Okay, and
I reference a lot of the NFL dot com. If
like the playoff picture was to hit today, think about this.
There are twelve teams with a seventy seven percent chance
or better of making the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That's six on each side. Okay, six in the ANFC,
six in the NFC. That means there's only two spots
left one Ache conference. Okay, So for all the math
majors at home, that's where we're at. And now think
about that. That means you've got a number of teams,
twelve of them that have distinguished themselves as better than
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a seventy five percent chance of making in the playoffs.
And we're halfway through the season, okay, eleven teams. Eleven
teams have a ten percent chance or worse at the
halfway point of the season of making the playoffs. That
means their season is done over, go book their vacation.
Like Prisco talks about, that's a problem this league. It
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not only tries to create parody, it forces parody. Look
at the draft, for example, there's a direct correlation where
if you want to, you can kind of tank so
you can get yourself assured for a top five spot,
top ten pick. Other leagues have had to put in
measures to protect that from their teams tanking. So we're
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at the halfway point now, and this is essentially what
you have. You have twelve teams who are playoff teams
sety seven percent chance or better, okay, or what you
have eleven teams or better, eleven teams who have no
shot ten percent chances or less. That's twenty three teams
in the NFL. You have the other teams remaining another nine.
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They're just kind of in purgatory. It's like you know
they're but you know they're all kind of working to
try to make that one playoff spot. But at some
point it's gonna turn into them being somewhere in the
middle of the road, and they're gonna be in a
spot where they're not gonna able to draft a guy
if they need a quarterback or not necessarily get an
impactful player as much as you would if you were
in the top five, top ten, and they're gonna find
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themselves somewhere in the middle there. So it's kind of
an interesting thing to point out, only because the NFL
does not want you to know this. They want you
to They want you to be blind to it. They
want you to keep watching, keep driving up viewership, keep
driving up their ratings. But this is a league that's
got a serious problem because we all know when we
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watch some of these games. Yes, they're some games that
are tight, they're entertaining, But as I said a couple
of weeks ago, two, look at the double digit or
over a touchdown, you know spread, you know, spreads and favorites.
Look at look at some of the outcomes of some
of these games that are non competitive, double digit you know,
margin to victories. The league's got a development problem, and
it's got a parody in a big way right now
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as a result of that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I think it was Rogers who made the point most
recently where he said, there's there's like a group of
ten to twelve teams in the NFL that are legitimate.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
All right, they've got a shot. Well he'd consider his
team one of them. Well he did at the time.
I don't know if he considers that now he did it.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, but what what then you look at it and
you go, what about the other twenty like so so,
But we keep adding, you know, now we've got a
seven team and the seven teams make the playoffs, it's
probably going to go to eight. Like it's like, okay,
well there's a parody problem. It's like they're still adding
mediocre football, like the seven seeds this year in the
playoffs might be brutal, like those could be some bad
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football teams, but they want to try and force the issue,
and so thus you get, you know, some some really rough,
rough teams that are going to the postseason that probably
don't deserve.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Where are the Jets at on those those three lists,
the elites, the purgatories, and the no hope at all
per Geese dren purgatory?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, really, that's the best three and six team in
the history of the NFL. Don't you try and dismiss him?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Wow, I don't heard it all. Now, that's that's what
y'are going with? And Q say it, yeah, very softly
in the background, like, yeah, that's that's what y'all think.
That's a purgatory.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Above they're above the nine teams that have two wins,
their percentage chances of making the playoffs are above ten percent.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
However, they're currently at twenty.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Four percent, so if they if they win this week,
those odds will go up, sure, but the team that's
slay in that spot right now is the Broncos with
over a fifty percent chance. And by the way, the
other team that's got on the other side that's currently
slotted the seventh spot is the Packers, who have a
sixty percent chance and they're gonna buy this week.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And the Broncos just got mutilated, right, I mean, listen
like I mean, I think three win team is a
purgatory team that then it's not even a parody problem,
it's just a problem. I would like to campaign for
something here, even though the election's over. I think that
and Brady and I will be running mates on this
because we were high on the Jets before the season.
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I think there should be a separate category to Jets record,
if not for Greg's are line, because that would change
the game here, because then all of a sudden, they're
on that list of teams, and.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Then there's somebody else on every other roster that you
could try to pinpoint and use the same logic. Yeah,
let's not get know.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's the most bizarre team. Jonas will appreciate this. The
Bears right now at four and four, are one spot
back from the Packers of being that final seventh spot
at the current moment, Okay, their actual playoff odds chances
is nine percent. Even if they win this week, it's
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eleven percent. I believe that's a correlation with all the
divisional wins or games they've played.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, But it's also because people and they are only
one win better than the Jets, because this is where
the eye test like exceeds whatever the numbers are to
where people go, hey, man, they're four and four. Oh no,
but they're not good because we just watched them, And
I wonder what the thought would be.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I don't know that people determine that, like definitively, honestly,
I think people are still confused about the Bears. They're bad.
They have played, they have not played well at times,
but I don't know that the book is out that
they're bad. Look, they just hired their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
They've got weapons galore and the number one draft pick,
and they're nine games into the season and they're talking
about replacing him. This is after they just replaced the
previous guy. So their head coach is now owing to
higher off.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
They're one hell mary away from being five and three
what five and three five and three three, and this
isn't even the conversation. Yeah, I mean, that's the that's
the wild thing of sports. That swing, that one game
swing is such a differentiator, Like four and four sounds
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horrible in comparison to to five and thie.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
About the two different conversations we've had about Washington and
Chicago off that one.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Off of one play, off of one play It's great
because you could you could clearly say, oh, Washington's having
a good year at at you know, the record that
they would be at. But man, what was with that game?
They coughed up to the Bear. Yeah they gave it up.
Yeah they had it, but they gave it up. Well.
Shots out to the Bears, Shots out to Caleb Williams
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for having that game winning drive, that game saving drive. Right.
So the narratives can change from week to week. That's
that's what I will say. But if you're a two
win team or three win team, I don't care if
you lost by hell Mary, I don't care if you
got blown out. I really don't give a damn about
style points. If your record is that poor, then I mean,
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at the end of the day, what are we really
talking about you know what I mean, Like, what chanced
three wins sounds three wins and down sounds horrible to me.
I'm just being honest. Four and four. I can tolerate
four and four. I appreciate that if they win, it
goes up to eleven. Oh yeah, like that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's what I love is there's really that much of
upside there, damn it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And they got the Patriots next, so they probably should win,
and then you know everyone's gonna get back on the
hype train.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Not really, it'll still be a five to four football team,
even chance of getting in fan base one. I mean, okay, though,
if I the only one that feels this way, do
you guys when you hear this, do you not sit
there and look and go We're halfway through the season
and the rest of the regular season doesn't really matter
besides for two spots in the playoffs, Like I guess
that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Ultimately, unless you had epic meltdowns by those top tier teams.
Do you know where it really? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I mean, dude, like, let me go through the numbers.
The Chiefs have a ninety nine percent chance to make
the playoff. Bills ninety eight percent chance, Steelers eighty three,
and by the way they're with the Ravens they have
a ninety two percent chance. So either one of those
two will find their way in. It's either as a
wild card or as a division winner. The Texas of
a ninety six percent chance. The Chargers are the ones
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that it's seventy four percent if they win this week
versus the Titans, which I think we're expecting, that goes
up to eighty. You go through the NFC, the only
one that's currently in a position to win their division
that's unlikely they do so is the Cardinals. The NFC
West is the one that they're at forty six percent,
and if they beat the Jets this week could be
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fifty six. Everyone else, every single other team from the
sixth seed upwards is above eighty four percent.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I just think they're injury away. When when I saw
Patrick Mahomes like they had to help them off. It's
like these teams are like literally an injury away from
their season not being what it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know where I first kind of took notice to
how many bad teams are were in the league. If
you go to NFL Tankathon, where you can find out
who's got the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Somebody created a site called Tankathon.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, like last year, it was pretty obvious. All right,
it's gonna be Carolina. That's gonna turn it. Like you know,
you kind of had a few one or two teams, dude,
like asking you shall receive?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Do you want to hear the updated twenty five draft wards?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh, I'm staring at it right now, and I don't
know how it works, Like I'm still confused.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well, they're all the same record, but I think they
do it based on some formula.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
But this is what they're anticipating.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
New England at one, Jacksonville at two, New Orleans at three,
Carolina at four, Cleveland at five, Vegas at six, Giants
at seven, Miami at eight, Tennessee at nine. By the way,
those are all two win teams, So there you go.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, if the commanders would have got the cheetah, I
might have moved back to to to Annapolis. Really that's
not true, Yeah, that's not true. You're right. You hate
the Cold War. You're right now. I'm glad you know
me a little bro. You would have gotten off the planet.
Goo no, no, no, no, no. Act the other way
that's like what I'm gonna do this weekend. Nope, active way, nope. Yeah,
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my hands got a little cold at the game this
past weekend. I was like, oh my gosh, my hands.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
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Speaker 4 (12:28):
Right now, we welcome in the smooth operator.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He is Pete Prisco of CBS Sports and CBS Sports HQ,
senior NFL columnist. You can get him on x at
Prisco CBS. Pete, good morning, Happy trade deadline day?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah right, by the way, you love the way you
say senior, like I'm the oldest guy in the room.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
No, I think just there it's an extra special mediums.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Who's older than you? Yeah? Nobody, Well not in this room,
and that's not very them for me anymore. But hey, Pete,
how you doing today?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I'm good, I'm good. Did you put your sticker on
like everybody else will walk around with voter?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Well, first off, did you even vote?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Okay, all right, Well I don't know, we don't get
into the stuff. Usually it's just talking football, talking sports.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
By the way, the.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Sticker we could talk about come on, right, but you know, right.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Come on on the sticker you go in your rant,
the sticker bothers you that much?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Well, I mean it's you, it's your civic duty to vote.
Do you get to walk around with the sticker saying
you did it?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Agreed? Come on?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But don't you think they're kind of symbolizing to everyone
else that like, hey, I did my part?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Where are you? You know?
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah? Maybe no, I wouldn't wear the sticker.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I'm with you, Pete, Like the sticker is a bit much.
I voted. I didn't need to wear it like a
flex for some.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Re Pete, who in the CBS office down there is
gonna be wearing a sticker today?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I don't know, but I can't wait to go in
and see because I'm why are you wearing your sticker?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
JB. Eisenberg? Well?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
JB.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Eisenberg wearing a cell.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
He would not wear He would not wear a sticker.
None of you guys would wear a sticker, would you.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
God, I'm not a sticker guy. No, No, you said,
I just do I just do what I'd do you
know what I mean? Eight pete?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Is there a player is Darius Smith just got traded
obviously to the Lions. Pretty good move for Detroit there
following the Aiden Hutchinson injury. But is there a move
that you would like to see made by a team
or a player on the go that you think could
impact the rest of the season for him.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I wouldn't stop. If I were the Lions, I'll be
honest with you, I'd go get ardent Key if I could,
I'd call the Titans. Then I get two pass rushers
you're never going to replace. Look, Darry Smith can't replace
Aiden Hutchinson. But if you're only going to go, if
you're really making a push to go get the super Bowl,
go get another one. And I think arden Key could
be had. You know, you look at the Titans. They've
been selling off pieces already. So call the Titan to say,
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you know what, I'll give you a five or six
for ardent Key. Now all the sudden, you have two
guys that can rush the passer and help your team.
So if you're all in, that's what If I'm the Lions,
That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Going all in. Huh, Well, yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Got to go all in there. I mean, they got
a real chance to win the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You got to still out there. You know, what's that
Reddick is out there?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah? Is he?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I'd go get Key. I think Key's a good veteran
to have on that team. You know, he plays within
the niable style. I think he give them what they need.
I think that would be to me, That's what I would.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Do if I were lyon interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Do you see anybody in the NFC that's a legitimate
threat to the Lions because it feels like there's a
significant difference between them and the next best team.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Well, I think the Packers are when they're healthy. They
just weren't. Yes, last week was bad for them. I mean,
you know, the quarterback couldn't move the you know, didn't
have Alexander, which is big in their defense. And yeah,
I think the Packers could be, but they got to
stay healthy. They got to get their quarterback healthy. That's
the biggest problem for them right now. Elsewhere. You know,
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if you got to go to Detroit and play, you're
gonna have to keep up, and so who could keep up?
That's the question. You look at Washington, can they keep up?
Do they make a move that that's an interesting one too.
Do they make a move at the deadline to go
get somebody like a cornerback from somebody. I mean, you know,
there's there's there's all these rumblings about you know, will
the same trade laddim or do you make a move
to go get that kind of guy, because they need
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an upgrade to cornerback. But they have the offense to
score with them. The question is do they have the
defense to stop them? And that's the biggest, biggest part
of it is that can you slow them down at
their place if they're playing at home.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
You don't like Philly, you know.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I want I watch that game on tape the other day.
Look the quarterback. I worry about the quarterback a little bit.
I really do. I think he hasn't improved. And that's
the biggest concern for me in Philly. And and defense
they're good on they are good on both lines, but
they still don't wow you. And I mean they like Jacksonville,
who's an awful team and was ready to get on
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the boat to go to Bermuda back in the game,
and Jacksonvilyne a chance to go win that game late
that there's something off about the Eagles. Maybe it's the coaching,
maybe it's the quarterback. They just don't look like they're
right there with those kind of teams.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
For me, Pete don't want to ask you about Chicago.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
First off, though, where is their vacation destination that they'll
be booking tickets for soon?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well, you know, when we were at Arizona State, all
the Midwesterns came down and went to like the beaches
in Mexico, So they're probably going to the beaches in
Mexico that's where there go. Or you know, they could
also make it, they could make a decision to split
it and half of them go down to the Bahamas
and go to Mexico because they're on their way, by
the way, after what we caught.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
The laft coup, So they've they've held their plane tickets
down to their Mexico the Bahamas. But I want to
ask you this, are you concerned with just where the
direction of where this team's at. I mean, it seems
like the last few weeks they're starting to fall Apart
of the seams, there's a lot of Gunnament. It sounds like,
amongst the players and the play and everything else, what
are you seeing for Chicago right now?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Where do you think this thing's heading.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
It's not hitting in a good spot. I can tell
you that because the schedule gets really tough for them.
And I look at that team. I think when you
see in fighting and you see guys complaining about the coaches,
publicly complaining about the coaches, that doesn't happen all the
time you're asking for it, and so I think that
they have major issues. I think there's going to be
a coaching change. And quite frankly, the quarterback hasn't been
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great either. I mean, you know, he had that fourth
quarter against Washington where he did some things, but aside
from that, he hasn't been very good the last two weeks.
And so again Brady, he's back to what he's been doing,
what he did earlier in the year. This isn't usc
You can't spin around for forty two minutes behind the
line of scrimmage and hope to make a play. And
I think he's got to get away from that again
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and get back to playing football now. In fairness to him,
he had both his tackles out last week. So that
was a problem.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And we've kind of touched on that earlier about him
kind of passing up the easy one to want to
take big shots and make big plays. Is that more
concerning though? Is it that or crying in his mom's bosoms?
Which one bothered you?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Geese?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Well, I never let you know how I feel about
crying after a game. You know you never cry after
a game. I mean, come on, give me a break.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So was it the crying that bothered you or the
crying in his mom's bosoms? Which one was the worst?
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Saying A and B. I mean, I just look, you
don't cry over losing a football game. Like I've always said,
losing a football game is the worst thing that happened
in your life. You've had a hell of a damn life.
That's all I have to say about that, because there's
no reason you should be crying over losing a football
game ever, ever, in my mind, and again, to go
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up into the stands and cry after a game and
on national TV for all to see, that that bothers me.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
This is also coming though, from a man who has
admitted on National Live Radio that you did want space
we try to end a young man's ability to have
kids in the future playing high school football underneath a pile.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Uh maybe I did, by the way, In fact, maybe
I did, because I yeah, well, he stepped on my
he stepped on my hand with their old time tweets
when I was on after the play, so eye for
an eye, right, So I went.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
You grabbed this Franklin Berries is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
You're damn right. I didn't, and he screamed like with
the highest pitch voice you've ever heard on a football
feel I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Uh, Pete, what do you think is the New Orleans
Saints direction after this year? Because if you're like kind
of speculating right now on available jobs in the NFL
after the season, this one doesn't feel like it's real
high on the list. So what's what sort of candidate?
What sort of coach could they hope to obtain if
they decided to move on from Darren Rizzy as the
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interim guy if this season doesn't get turned.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Around, Well, here's the problem. Their cap is a disaster.
I mean, it's going to be a three year fix.
So whoever does take that job better get assurances they're
getting like a six or seven year contract because it
is awful. Remember they're a team that kept pushing money
out every year.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Out out out.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well, the bill is due and the bill is coming
do and the players are getting old and it's a
major problem. That job is not an attractive job at all,
and so it's a great fan base when you win,
and people forget. Back in the day when they were awful,
nobody went to those games, So it's not a good situation.
So I think that's going to either be a young
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guy who just wants an opportunitybody better get a long
term deal. He's going to have a four year deal
and get out of there in two. Or it's going
to be one of these guys that you know, old
time guys that wants another opportunity to come in there
and says, look, i'll take the retirement money, give me
five years. If you fire me in two I'll do that.
But it's not a good situation. And I thought before
the season age was becoming an issue across the board,
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but then they had all those injuries and it really
went off the rail. So it's not a great job.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Are you looking at how them letting go of Alan
you know, we heard we heard Jerry Jones say that
that he would be an idiot or a moron or
whatever it was. He isn't that, and he wouldn't fire
a coach during the season, but it seems like that's
becoming more and more of a trend in today's NFL.
Do you think that there's the possibilities that Jerry might
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have to go back on his word of basically saying
you have to be an idiot to get rid of
your coach during the season. I mean, Dallas is in
the same type of position that I mean, may be
worse if you think, than what the New Orleans Saints
are in right now.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah, and look, the Cowboys are in big trouble now.
Prescott's out, so they're not going to win games. So yeah,
I mean, but following this firing coach in the middle
of the season, ever saw anything? And the answer to
that question is no. But what it does do It
allows you to get a head start on next year
and who you might be eyeing and get the process
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going a little bit without having a guy looking over
his shoulder all the time. So I think from that standpoint, maybe,
but I don't think it changes anything for a team.
What are the New Orleans Saints going to do with
Rizzy coaching them? Are they going to do it because
the roster's depleted? Are they going to change anything in
that building? It doesn't make any sense. So no, I
don't I don't think firing a coach in season unless
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unless you want to get the process started, uh and
start looking around and see what's out there and tell
the fan base, look, we're not gonna we're not going
to tolerate this, you know, awful football, and we are
going to be better. We're going to start looking for
somebody to make the improvement. So I think in a
lot of situations, the general managers should be the one
who's fired, in large part because he's the one that
built the crappy roster.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Pete, is this because you had the Saints minus seven
and a half this weekend at Carolina?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Is that what happened?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
No? But I will complain about one. I got one
that I complain about though, the Eagles twenty two nothing
at the half? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You were I was on.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yes, Yes, that was one. I was on the right
side of the When you look at when you look
at Nick Sirianni and he's stupidity of not kicking field
goals up six to make it nine point game. Then
he kept going for it for going for two twice
he didn't kick field goals and then they converted a
fourth and twelve Jacksonville to go get the touchdown to
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cover late. Give me a break that they had no
business being in that game. When you have a team
down like that, you put him away. That's why I'm
concerned about the Eagles and so yeah, that's one. I
was on the right side of it and it went
rock real quick.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Can you have a shout out to your boy camp Scottaboo.
I mean that that dude can tote the rock man?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Can he tote the rock in the National Football League?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I think that can.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
But I feel like, but you know, he's hurt. He's
hurt this week. You know that, right, he might not
play this Yeah, and the way he plays is so violent.
He takes so many hits. I worry about that kid.
But boy, he's a tough, tough running back. I love
watching him play. And and by the way, I will
give a shout out to head coach Kenny Dillingham. And
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you know I don't do that all the time when
it comes to my album Mater. What he done with
that team is impressive. It really is. Because they don't
have the manpowered, they don't have the money that everybody
else has, and they don't have the ability to build
a roster. But he has that team competitive and if
they went out, I think they play in the Big
twelfth title game.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They need they need some help, but I believe if
they went out they would have a shot. Yes, I
believe there's like one other scenario that needs to take place.
But either way, Uh oh, Tom Jonas Hell yeah, Cam Scataboo,
I will hold a running back position. Just just want
to point that out there for you to Pete LeVar.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
By the way, it looks like he does curls every
hour of every single day. To thank Cam skataboo. Oh
my god, it is my gosh. Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports. Right, we got
a positive Pete Prisco today.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, Pete, are you doing?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I did rip the sticker, so I got that done.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Hey Pete, I have a good one.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Uh all right, guys, take.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
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Speaker 4 (26:06):
That was a damn fun football game last night. Man,
So now he's a little dueling. We just watched the MVP.
That's what we watched, Jesus Man. Lamarson's awesome. Man, He's
so good. He's so good. He's better than the Store was.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Great too, he was, but it was it was also
a combination of how great Jamar Chase is.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Like, that's an incredible one two punch. But when I.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Watched Lamar, I look there and I go, that's the
best quarterback right now.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
The way he's playing in the league.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Now, that doesn't mean that they're going to beat Kansas
City when the Chiefs take them on and versus Patch Mahomes.
But if you're looking at your MVP right now in
the season, I know there's some people who think Josh
Allen would be up there too, and he is. But
the only reason why we look at Lamar Jackson and
we don't think that he should win and win the
MVP is because of what he hasn't done in the postseason, which,
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if you think about it, I mean it's not a
postseason award. And on top of that, we never held
other quarterbacks to that standard. I mean Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning,
Like did we ever talk about for that period of
time before Manning got his second in Denver, which was
largely led by the defense.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
We never said that. We were just like, hey, if
he's deserving of it, he gets it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So I'm not sure why so many people keep trying
to hold up Lamar Jackson to this postseason standard of.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
What he's he done. He's been incredible throughout the entirety
of his career. In the regular season.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah, that was and I think kind of I was
going into the season with like, well, you know he
wanted already. It's not like he's going to do it again. No,
I mean, he's probably going to do it again. And
he's better this year, I would say, than he was
last year, and last year was the MVP. And when
you saw the game last night, you just it felt
like one of those Ravens games that we've talked about
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before to where it's like, right when you think, all right,
this is the team I'm gonna ride with, they have
a letdown a game against the Raiders, a game against
the Browns, and then the second half came out, there
was that fumble by Cincinnati and they just never looked
back and and Cincinnati couldn't get a stop on defense,
and they were just dealing from there on out.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
So that was fun. Burrow was dealing, though he was dealing.
They were playing. Now it was a game, and listen,
it's it's nice when you can see two old school
AFC opponents duel it out the way that they did.
You know that that made for points. But they put
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up points. I mean, you know, they it is whatever
you're saying. I mean, it is what I'm saying. I mean,
they did put up points. And it was interesting though
for all the good things that Joe Burrow did in
that moment of truth, it was I don't know, was
it a bad decision to throw the ball. Were there
some penalties that were left on you know, Oh my
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god in this I mean, you know, I just he
took a beating too, yeah, I mean yeah, he did
get hit. There was some blatant miss calls and in
terms of pass interferences and stuff like that. I mean,
it just seems like.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
We personal foul too personal get hit a quarterback in
the helmet like that.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, I mean, and it's funny because generally speaking, when
you see a quarterback get touched, there's a flag that
comes out. So how does that work? Right? You know?
I think they missed two hands to the face.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
There was the other one too, to where herb Street
was like, yeah, I think it might have been. And
then the more they closed in on it, like no,
there was like a legitimate grab of the face mash
that was missed that they didn't call. Yeah, he took
a beating last night. Burrow did talk about some of
the miss calls following the game afterwards. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, you're not getting those calls in that situation for
the most part.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
A couple of meet potentially late hits on the United
didn't get black as that. Do you feel like that's
the point.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I feel like I've never really gotten those calls, so
I don't really expect that.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I felt like there were a couple that were close,
but again I don't expect those.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
So just kind of wearing it the Ravens defense.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
What's he saying that birth that you said Mahomes would
have gotten him, but but he doesn't get him.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Is that what he's saying? Apparently, you know, I think
he was we can't catch a break, can't we? Well,
that might have been what mahomes.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Mahomes gets those calls.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Every Mahomes gets those calls. If you have bad breath
and you breathe on Mahomes during the course of the game,
you're getting a personal foul penalty.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
If you have one of Lee's leaky farts slips, you're
getting You're getting a call.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You're getting a call. I mean, I get it. But
I'll say this. I think this was said on the
show maybe yesterday or or the day before. There are
there are a few teams that can stand up to
the Kansas City Chiefs if Baltimore can tinues to play
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the way that they're playing. And that's a big if,
because for some strange reason, they always give us a
game where it makes you lose your confidence in what
it is that you think they can do. I'm telling you,
I thought that last night was Zach game again.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
In the first they get you every time.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
They get you every time. But Baltimore and Buffalo, and
I'm curious to see how Buffalo plays this weekend because
this almost seems like this is is heading towards like
almost like a freak train type of collision course. And
these teams, these elite teams, are showing one another how
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elite they are. You know, last night, we can look
at Cincinnati and we can call them a lot of
things based off of what they haven't been able to
get done this season, But that's still the Cincinnati Bengals
that has Joe Burrow. And I think you could see
that last night.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
You know, I was thinking when I watched the game,
I wish Cincinnati was in the NFC, one of the
most they could.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Just get the hell out of the a f C.
That team AFC North.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
North, Yeah, put them in the South, put them, put
them anywhere, but in their playoff team.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
I think it's going to be interesting coming down the
stretch to see how those three teams play, because Kansas
City is the team that we'll say is the best
team in the league, but they don't play the best football,
which is kind of a you know, is that a conundrum?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Is that a you know, kind of a you know, what,
what's what's the word you use when it's like it's
something but it's not that, But it is that like
they're the best team by record, but they're not the
best team. A calamity. No, it's not a calamity. That'd
be bad. A facade. Not a facade, Not a facade.
It's it's uh, I don't know. It's like maybe that
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might be it right there. It's a delap it's a delapism. Anyway.
I just look at this Kansasy Chiefs team and I say,
going into the ecotomy, dichotomy is a good one. That
suld be interesting. Dichotomy, that's a good one. It wasn't
the word I was looking for. Maybe it is conundrum
that I was looking for. Maybe that is the word
(33:23):
I was looking for. Yeah, it does work. It just
doesn't seem like they should be considered the best team
in the league, even though they're undefeated. But they are
the best team in the league and they're undefeated. But
I think watching Baltimore last night, and hell, even watching
the way Cincinnati played last night, I would say both
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of those teams the way they played last night could
beat the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Cincinnati, I hope they I hope they are a seven
seed because whoever's the two and how they.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Might be in trouble. Yes, Sensing might could be a sleeper,
Like they definitely could be that team that knocks off
the team that wasn't supposed to leave as early as
they were planning to leave in the playoffs. And there's Buffalo,
there's Buffalo, and there's Baltimore. And if you're asking me
who's the best team, I'll say the hottest team, I
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guess it is Baltimore, but I'm not so sure Buffalo
can't take that title as well. So it's kind of
it's I think it's shaping up to be pretty interesting
to make it out of the AFC because that's the goatlet,
and then now you got the NFC, where it's like,
what is the gatlet? In the NFC, it's the easier
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road travel, it's the easier path to get to the
final game. But is that a good thing or is
that a bad thing? Is the best team in the
NFC able to beat one of those three teams? Because
I think it's going to come down to one of
those three teams, Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo, one of those
three teams are going to the Super Bowl. Is the
best team in the NFC, which is considerably like most
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people are saying that's that's Detroit is the best team
out of the NFC going to be able to stand
up to one of those three teams. I think that's
a great It's gonna make for an interesting set up
for the Super Bowl. But I think that the playoffs
on the a f C side.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Is going to be nuts. Yeah, that's uh. I mean
it's stacked every year. This year is gonna be a
lot of fun. Now there is a there there's a uh.
You know, people are having a discussion about zero sugar
creamer is the worst too, by the way, the worst?
Why you use I grabbed it by accident. I grabbed it.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
You shouldn't even be in there. Agree doesn't have all
that stuff that causes cancer? You know, I don't know.
You know the missus uses zero sugar. She doesn't.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
You should We asked Lee to wait on this or
is he still.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
He's still not in the chair, you know, Coop coopby
hassat and let me get Yeah, come on, you're not
You're not getting the river. Come on, rivers, Coop, you
ain't getting that the same who's that? Who's the actress
that's always playing poker? Now? Is it Lily Tomlin. Is
(36:14):
that her name? What?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
What's the uh the actress? It's always playing poker. I
hope you're not asking me. No, you can't be asking
them in the back because they Jennifer Tilly. Oh, Jennifer Taylor.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
That's who it is. I love her. Yeah, the way
Cooper spotted so does he? She was in liar Liar?
Oh that's right.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Oh did you guys gamble on set. I was not
a poker player back then.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Okay, well who was she? Liar? Who's the wife? No,
she was his client. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, five pounds?
Yeah in your bra?
Speaker 7 (36:50):
Yeah right, ye zeppelins, Yeah yeah, looking poker player.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Uh interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Now, did you guys have any issue with Cincinnati going
for two at the end of that game, because I
know Pete Prisco was on fire? Oh yeah, I thought
it was the dumbest thing in the world. They had
time out, you know, even if Baltimore goes. I looked
at it, and because everyone's trying to go for it,
they're trying to compare it to what Tampa Bay did
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on Monday Night Football, and it's completely different. Tampa Bay
is like, you look at the situation and you go
they probably should have gone for two. The fact that
Kansas City got the ball back, went down and scored
was an indicator that, yeah, that was your opportunity.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You were two yards away.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The idea that Cincinnati should have just done what Tampa
Bay did because well, you know, you're not as bang like, No, you.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Couldn't stop Baltimore at all. You're two yards away from
winning the game. Go for it? Yes, like this idea
that like you're gonna leave it and you got Joe
Burrow and Jamar would you go for it?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Would you rather leave it up to a coin flip
or a two yard gain? With what your offense has
done in the game thus far, I'll take a two
yard game all day long. It just didn't work out
for him.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah. Right, there's a couple of miss That's all I
was gonna say too.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
The way that game was going, you got the sense
too that they could score. It feel like it feels
like whoever had the ball last was gonna ultimately win
even with the timeouts. So I had no issue with it.
I'm not sure why Pete get off my Lawn Prisco as.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
An issue with it, but he seemed he seems to.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Be frustrated by anything that he probably had Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Minus six two. I mean, well, let's be real about it.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
We'll get to Quinn's wins at some point, but just
I mean, look, I'm happy for one win because it
was looking like h to three for a minute.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
But can we discuss the fact that.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
With the way that game was going, I was looking
at a three and zero, everything was gonna be great
to hit the over. I'm feeling good, Baltimore's up seven,
feeling good. And then Burrow drives back down with a
chance to go ahead, and went at the two point version,
which at that point I was praying to kick the
pat just to go into overtime, and then hopefully Baltimore
won the coin toss and drives on gets touchdown, game over,
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but just with a push in that case. But is
it a bad beat if you lose by a half point?
By the way, like the Coast of Carolina app State game,
I took the over of sixty two and a half,
it hit at the under at sixty two.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, it's a bad beat. I mean that is did
you get pit of me, by the way.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Did you shop around for it or was that the best?
Was that the best line? You could find, well, I.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Would use DraftKings, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
So I'm just faithful to our show, so I don't
shop around.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I just use DraftKings.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I agree, you know, I meant like shop around you
know during the week, like maybe fine day, have better line.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
That's totally what I meant. But I just yeah, that's
a rough way to go.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And then just to see the way the game was
playing out, Yeah, you know you probably thought, and we
can get into more in depth on it. While you're
sitting there kind of sweating out yours old you know,
you've got friends over celebrating, you know, throughout three team
parlays with you know, over passing and receiving yards and
all that that came along with it. So it was
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a fun night, fun game. I still don't look at
Cincinnati and say, well that that's a make or break
for the season. Still a chance they could get that
seven seed. They're gonna have to battle that with Denver.
But I think everybody can agree no offense to Denver.
Just you know, once you step aside, let Cincinnati get
that seven seed, you know, spice up the AFC playoffs
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
We I think that'd be the most dangerous team.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
To to your earlier point, no one wants to see
Cincinnati in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, it's and then you look at just Baltimore and
or the television.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah, a little distracted here, maybe Jennifer Tilly. They got
WI shut on right now, but out of control. You
know what? A very good scene in that movie, A
few of them, as it turns out, ahead of its time.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Way maybe more real life than I mean, I always
knew that that stuff was real.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
I don't know why y'ah didn't think it was real?
By the way, didn't he the director? I don't know,
he's a Jona's more real than what people.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, didn't didn't He kind of a have an unfortunate
situation following the making of that movie.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I believe, well it was his last movie. Huang weird.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Hell, can we talk to Coop about just what I'm
sending you in the chat right now? Because I feel Coop,
how old were you when you were a port of
lie liar?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I mean that's uh hey seven seven? Okay, yeah, but
that yeah, I mean yeah, you could come through hell.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah your eyes still that's a that's a problem for
a seven year old boy, because you you know exactly
what's going on?
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Can I mean, Cooper, is this the Jennifer Tilla you remember?
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Yes, her hair was like like short and blonde in
that like it had like a pixie cut thing going on.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah, that doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. There's some anatomy
there that's hard to pass up on.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
You're not drowning if you go swimming with her, coop,
And that was basically her entire character.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
It was just that was the focal point.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
You know. I guess that's maybe kind of in every role.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
You know that she's a no, she's playing Texas hold
them on, you know, various networks.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
So good for her. All right, well, who knew that
was gonna Let's just take a break so we can
watch a little bit of this show. You know, it
is what it is, the Baltimore Ravens won Like, Yeah,
a lot going on on that Eyes White show. I
got we got a focus because we got to knock
this uh this Laver out, you know what I mean. Right,
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I'll tell you what it is real.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
It is two pros, and it is here on radio
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. So
we're gonna have the usuals coming up later on. We
do have another edition of In case you missed it.
We've got our picks against the Spread, We've got some
Lee's leftovers, and while eyes wide shut maybe going on
in the studio, it's definitely not here because we do
have some good news for you.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
This is important news.
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Football here right, football, yes, Friday.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Right to see what a thing? What a thing? What socco?
Miss old? Yes, fire hate figure bowed up? Blow it up?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Light right?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Come on, let's do it, Priddy, Let's do it, Braddy,
Come on, let's do a Praddy ride. Hey, night is
a bride fall bride?
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (44:29):
What a masks?
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Masks mask? It is a h It is a godly
This movie is so stuck. I forgot how stone cold
this movie really is.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Man stone cold movie. I mean, and they said Diddy
like rewrote the rules. By the way, how many people
back by how many?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
How many people couldn't find their car keys in their
pocket during this movie?
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Golly, Jesus, God,
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings Brady Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So what what's your problem here, Brady with like, you know,
the the big group of mediocre, the bad football teams
in the NFL. What's you're like, you can't give a
little bit of love to some two and seven football
teams that are running rampant in the league. Like everybody's
got to be the chief?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
You mean the nine of them? Like, I mean, you're
talking about the nine of the teams that have two wins? Like,
doesn't everybody deserve a fair shot here?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Parody of of mediocrity?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Dude, geez, Like you've got You've got nearly a third
of your league with two wins right now. This is
how I described this because now that the election is
is over, we can purely strictly focus on you know,
the NFL. College football is good stuff. The NFL is
a parody problem. I kind of mentioned this a little
bit yesterday, but I want to dig a little deeper
(00:58):
so people at home can really under.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Stand where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We're nine weeks in the season, okay, heading into week ten,
we have nine teams who have two wins. Okay, and
I reference a lot of the NFL dot com. If
like the playoff picture was to hit today, think about this.
There are twelve teams with a seventy seven percent chance
or better of making the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That's six on each side. Okay, six in the ANFC,
six in the NFC. That means there's only two spots
left one Ache conference. Okay, So for all the math
majors at home, that's where we're at. And now think
about that. That means you've got a number of teams,
twelve of them that have distinguished themselves as better than
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a seventy five percent chance of making in the playoffs.
And we're halfway through the season, okay, eleven teams. Eleven
teams have a ten percent chance or worse at the
halfway point of the season of making the playoffs. That
means their season is done over, go book their vacation.
Like Prisco talks about, that's a problem this league. It
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not only tries to create parody, it forces parody. Look
at the draft, for example, there's a direct correlation where
if you want to, you can kind of tank so
you can get yourself assured for a top five spot,
top ten pick. Other leagues have had to put in
measures to protect that from their teams tanking. So we're
(02:34):
at the halfway point now, and this is essentially what
you have. You have twelve teams who are playoff teams
sety seven percent chance or better, okay, or what you
have eleven teams or better, eleven teams who have no
shot ten percent chances or less. That's twenty three teams
in the NFL. You have the other teams remaining another nine.
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They're just kind of in purgatory. It's like you know
they're but you know they're all kind of working to
try to make that one playoff spot. But at some
point it's gonna turn into them being somewhere in the
middle of the road, and they're gonna be in a
spot where they're not gonna able to draft a guy
if they need a quarterback or not necessarily get an
impactful player as much as you would if you were
in the top five, top ten, and they're gonna find
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themselves somewhere in the middle there. So it's kind of
an interesting thing to point out, only because the NFL
does not want you to know this. They want you
to They want you to be blind to it. They
want you to keep watching, keep driving up viewership, keep
driving up their ratings. But this is a league that's
got a serious problem because we all know when we
(03:39):
watch some of these games. Yes, they're some games that
are tight, they're entertaining, But as I said a couple
of weeks ago, two, look at the double digit or
over a touchdown, you know spread, you know, spreads and favorites.
Look at look at some of the outcomes of some
of these games that are non competitive, double digit you know,
margin to victories. The league's got a development problem, and
it's got a parody in a big way right now
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as a result of that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I think it was Rogers who made the point most
recently where he said, there's there's like a group of
ten to twelve teams in the NFL that are legitimate.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
All right, they've got a shot. Well he'd consider his
team one of them. Well he did at the time.
I don't know if he considers that now he did it.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, but what what then you look at it and
you go, what about the other twenty like so so,
But we keep adding, you know, now we've got a
seven team and the seven teams make the playoffs, it's
probably going to go to eight. Like it's like, okay,
well there's a parody problem. It's like they're still adding
mediocre football, like the seven seeds this year in the
playoffs might be brutal, like those could be some bad
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football teams, but they want to try and force the issue,
and so thus you get, you know, some some really rough,
rough teams that are going to the postseason that probably
don't deserve.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Where are the Jets at on those those three lists,
the elites, the purgatories, and the no hope at all
per Geese dren purgatory?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, really, that's the best three and six team in
the history of the NFL. Don't you try and dismiss him?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Wow, I don't heard it all. Now, that's that's what
y'are going with? And Q say it, yeah, very softly
in the background, like, yeah, that's that's what y'all think.
That's a purgatory.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Above they're above the nine teams that have two wins,
their percentage chances of making the playoffs are above ten percent.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
However, they're currently at twenty.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Four percent, so if they if they win this week,
those odds will go up, sure, but the team that's
slay in that spot right now is the Broncos with
over a fifty percent chance. And by the way, the
other team that's got on the other side that's currently
slotted the seventh spot is the Packers, who have a
sixty percent chance and they're gonna buy this week.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And the Broncos just got mutilated, right, I mean, listen
like I mean, I think three win team is a
purgatory team that then it's not even a parody problem,
it's just a problem. I would like to campaign for
something here, even though the election's over. I think that
and Brady and I will be running mates on this
because we were high on the Jets before the season.
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I think there should be a separate category to Jets record,
if not for Greg's are line, because that would change
the game here, because then all of a sudden, they're
on that list of teams, and.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Then there's somebody else on every other roster that you
could try to pinpoint and use the same logic. Yeah,
let's not get know.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's the most bizarre team. Jonas will appreciate this. The
Bears right now at four and four, are one spot
back from the Packers of being that final seventh spot
at the current moment, Okay, their actual playoff odds chances
is nine percent. Even if they win this week, it's
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eleven percent. I believe that's a correlation with all the
divisional wins or games they've played.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, But it's also because people and they are only
one win better than the Jets, because this is where
the eye test like exceeds whatever the numbers are to
where people go, hey, man, they're four and four. Oh no,
but they're not good because we just watched them, And
I wonder what the thought would be.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I don't know that people determine that, like definitively, honestly,
I think people are still confused about the Bears. They're bad.
They have played, they have not played well at times,
but I don't know that the book is out that
they're bad. Look, they just hired their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
They've got weapons galore and the number one draft pick,
and they're nine games into the season and they're talking
about replacing him. This is after they just replaced the
previous guy. So their head coach is now owing to
higher off.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
They're one hell mary away from being five and three
what five and three five and three three, and this
isn't even the conversation. Yeah, I mean, that's the that's
the wild thing of sports. That swing, that one game
swing is such a differentiator, Like four and four sounds
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horrible in comparison to to five and thie.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
About the two different conversations we've had about Washington and
Chicago off that one.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Off of one play, off of one play It's great
because you could you could clearly say, oh, Washington's having
a good year at at you know, the record that
they would be at. But man, what was with that game?
They coughed up to the Bear. Yeah they gave it up.
Yeah they had it, but they gave it up. Well.
Shots out to the Bears, Shots out to Caleb Williams
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for having that game winning drive, that game saving drive. Right.
So the narratives can change from week to week. That's
that's what I will say. But if you're a two
win team or three win team, I don't care if
you lost by hell Mary, I don't care if you
got blown out. I really don't give a damn about
style points. If your record is that poor, then I mean,
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at the end of the day, what are we really
talking about you know what I mean, Like, what chanced
three wins sounds three wins and down sounds horrible to me.
I'm just being honest. Four and four. I can tolerate
four and four. I appreciate that if they win, it
goes up to eleven. Oh yeah, like that.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That's what I love is there's really that much of
upside there, damn it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And they got the Patriots next, so they probably should win,
and then you know everyone's gonna get back on the
hype train.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Not really, it'll still be a five to four football team,
even chance of getting in fan base one. I mean, okay, though,
if I the only one that feels this way, do
you guys when you hear this, do you not sit
there and look and go We're halfway through the season
and the rest of the regular season doesn't really matter
besides for two spots in the playoffs, Like I guess
that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Ultimately, unless you had epic meltdowns by those top tier teams.
Do you know where it really? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I mean, dude, like, let me go through the numbers.
The Chiefs have a ninety nine percent chance to make
the playoff. Bills ninety eight percent chance, Steelers eighty three,
and by the way they're with the Ravens they have
a ninety two percent chance. So either one of those
two will find their way in. It's either as a
wild card or as a division winner. The Texas of
a ninety six percent chance. The Chargers are the ones
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that it's seventy four percent if they win this week
versus the Titans, which I think we're expecting, that goes
up to eighty. You go through the NFC, the only
one that's currently in a position to win their division
that's unlikely they do so is the Cardinals. The NFC
West is the one that they're at forty six percent,
and if they beat the Jets this week could be
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fifty six. Everyone else, every single other team from the
sixth seed upwards is above eighty four percent.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I just think they're injury away. When when I saw
Patrick Mahomes like they had to help them off. It's
like these teams are like literally an injury away from
their season not being what it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know where I first kind of took notice to
how many bad teams are were in the league. If
you go to NFL Tankathon, where you can find out
who's got the number one pick.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Somebody created a site called Tankathon.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, like last year, it was pretty obvious. All right,
it's gonna be Carolina. That's gonna turn it. Like you know,
you kind of had a few one or two teams, dude,
like asking you shall receive?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Do you want to hear the updated twenty five draft wards?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Oh, I'm staring at it right now, and I don't
know how it works, Like I'm still confused.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well, they're all the same record, but I think they
do it based on some formula.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
But this is what they're anticipating.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
New England at one, Jacksonville at two, New Orleans at three,
Carolina at four, Cleveland at five, Vegas at six, Giants
at seven, Miami at eight, Tennessee at nine. By the way,
those are all two win teams, So there you go.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, if the commanders would have got the cheetah, I
might have moved back to to to Annapolis. Really that's
not true, Yeah, that's not true. You're right. You hate
the Cold War. You're right now. I'm glad you know
me a little bro. You would have gotten off the planet.
Goo no, no, no, no, no. Act the other way
that's like what I'm gonna do this weekend. Nope, active way, nope. Yeah,
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my hands got a little cold at the game this
past weekend. I was like, oh my gosh, my hands.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
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Speaker 4 (12:28):
Right now, we welcome in the smooth operator.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
He is Pete Prisco of CBS Sports and CBS Sports HQ,
senior NFL columnist. You can get him on x at
Prisco CBS. Pete, good morning, Happy trade deadline day?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah right, by the way, you love the way you
say senior, like I'm the oldest guy in the room.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
No, I think just there it's an extra special mediums.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Who's older than you? Yeah? Nobody, Well not in this room,
and that's not very them for me anymore. But hey, Pete,
how you doing today?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
I'm good, I'm good. Did you put your sticker on
like everybody else will walk around with voter?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Well, first off, did you even vote?
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Okay, all right, Well I don't know, we don't get
into the stuff. Usually it's just talking football, talking sports.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
By the way, the.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Sticker we could talk about come on, right, but you know, right.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Come on on the sticker you go in your rant,
the sticker bothers you that much?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Well, I mean it's you, it's your civic duty to vote.
Do you get to walk around with the sticker saying
you did it?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Agreed? Come on?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But don't you think they're kind of symbolizing to everyone
else that like, hey, I did my part?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Where are you? You know?
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah? Maybe no, I wouldn't wear the sticker.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I'm with you, Pete, Like the sticker is a bit much.
I voted. I didn't need to wear it like a
flex for some.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Re Pete, who in the CBS office down there is
gonna be wearing a sticker today?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I don't know, but I can't wait to go in
and see because I'm why are you wearing your sticker?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
JB. Eisenberg? Well?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
JB.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Eisenberg wearing a cell.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
He would not wear He would not wear a sticker.
None of you guys would wear a sticker, would you.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
God, I'm not a sticker guy. No, No, you said,
I just do I just do what I'd do you
know what I mean? Eight pete?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Is there a player is Darius Smith just got traded
obviously to the Lions. Pretty good move for Detroit there
following the Aiden Hutchinson injury. But is there a move
that you would like to see made by a team
or a player on the go that you think could
impact the rest of the season for him.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I wouldn't stop. If I were the Lions, I'll be
honest with you, I'd go get ardent Key if I could,
I'd call the Titans. Then I get two pass rushers
you're never going to replace. Look, Darry Smith can't replace
Aiden Hutchinson. But if you're only going to go, if
you're really making a push to go get the super Bowl,
go get another one. And I think arden Key could
be had. You know, you look at the Titans. They've
been selling off pieces already. So call the Titan to say,
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you know what, I'll give you a five or six
for ardent Key. Now all the sudden, you have two
guys that can rush the passer and help your team.
So if you're all in, that's what If I'm the Lions,
That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Going all in. Huh, Well, yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Got to go all in there. I mean, they got
a real chance to win the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You got to still out there. You know, what's that
Reddick is out there?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah? Is he?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I'd go get Key. I think Key's a good veteran
to have on that team. You know, he plays within
the niable style. I think he give them what they need.
I think that would be to me, That's what I would.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Do if I were lyon interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Do you see anybody in the NFC that's a legitimate
threat to the Lions because it feels like there's a
significant difference between them and the next best team.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Well, I think the Packers are when they're healthy. They
just weren't. Yes, last week was bad for them. I mean,
you know, the quarterback couldn't move the you know, didn't
have Alexander, which is big in their defense. And yeah,
I think the Packers could be, but they got to
stay healthy. They got to get their quarterback healthy. That's
the biggest problem for them right now. Elsewhere. You know,
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if you got to go to Detroit and play, you're
gonna have to keep up, and so who could keep up?
That's the question. You look at Washington, can they keep up?
Do they make a move that that's an interesting one too.
Do they make a move at the deadline to go
get somebody like a cornerback from somebody. I mean, you know,
there's there's there's all these rumblings about you know, will
the same trade laddim or do you make a move
to go get that kind of guy, because they need
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an upgrade to cornerback. But they have the offense to
score with them. The question is do they have the
defense to stop them? And that's the biggest, biggest part
of it is that can you slow them down at
their place if they're playing at home.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
You don't like Philly, you know.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
I want I watch that game on tape the other day.
Look the quarterback. I worry about the quarterback a little bit.
I really do. I think he hasn't improved. And that's
the biggest concern for me in Philly. And and defense
they're good on they are good on both lines, but
they still don't wow you. And I mean they like Jacksonville,
who's an awful team and was ready to get on
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the boat to go to Bermuda back in the game,
and Jacksonvilyne a chance to go win that game late
that there's something off about the Eagles. Maybe it's the coaching,
maybe it's the quarterback. They just don't look like they're
right there with those kind of teams.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
For me, Pete don't want to ask you about Chicago.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
First off, though, where is their vacation destination that they'll
be booking tickets for soon?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well, you know, when we were at Arizona State, all
the Midwesterns came down and went to like the beaches
in Mexico, So they're probably going to the beaches in
Mexico that's where there go. Or you know, they could
also make it, they could make a decision to split
it and half of them go down to the Bahamas
and go to Mexico because they're on their way, by
the way, after what we caught.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
The laft coup, So they've they've held their plane tickets
down to their Mexico the Bahamas. But I want to
ask you this, are you concerned with just where the
direction of where this team's at. I mean, it seems
like the last few weeks they're starting to fall Apart
of the seams, there's a lot of Gunnament. It sounds like,
amongst the players and the play and everything else, what
are you seeing for Chicago right now?
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Where do you think this thing's heading.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
It's not hitting in a good spot. I can tell
you that because the schedule gets really tough for them.
And I look at that team. I think when you
see in fighting and you see guys complaining about the coaches,
publicly complaining about the coaches, that doesn't happen all the
time you're asking for it, and so I think that
they have major issues. I think there's going to be
a coaching change. And quite frankly, the quarterback hasn't been
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great either. I mean, you know, he had that fourth
quarter against Washington where he did some things, but aside
from that, he hasn't been very good the last two weeks.
And so again Brady, he's back to what he's been doing,
what he did earlier in the year. This isn't usc
You can't spin around for forty two minutes behind the
line of scrimmage and hope to make a play. And
I think he's got to get away from that again
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and get back to playing football now. In fairness to him,
he had both his tackles out last week. So that
was a problem.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And we've kind of touched on that earlier about him
kind of passing up the easy one to want to
take big shots and make big plays. Is that more
concerning though? Is it that or crying in his mom's bosoms?
Which one bothered you?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Geese?
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Well, I never let you know how I feel about
crying after a game. You know you never cry after
a game. I mean, come on, give me a break.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So was it the crying that bothered you or the
crying in his mom's bosoms? Which one was the worst?
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Saying A and B. I mean, I just look, you
don't cry over losing a football game. Like I've always said,
losing a football game is the worst thing that happened
in your life. You've had a hell of a damn life.
That's all I have to say about that, because there's
no reason you should be crying over losing a football
game ever, ever, in my mind, and again, to go
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up into the stands and cry after a game and
on national TV for all to see, that that bothers me.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
This is also coming though, from a man who has
admitted on National Live Radio that you did want space
we try to end a young man's ability to have
kids in the future playing high school football underneath a pile.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Uh maybe I did, by the way, In fact, maybe
I did, because I yeah, well, he stepped on my
he stepped on my hand with their old time tweets
when I was on after the play, so eye for
an eye, right, So I went.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
You grabbed this Franklin Berries is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
You're damn right. I didn't, and he screamed like with
the highest pitch voice you've ever heard on a football
feel I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Uh, Pete, what do you think is the New Orleans
Saints direction after this year? Because if you're like kind
of speculating right now on available jobs in the NFL
after the season, this one doesn't feel like it's real
high on the list. So what's what sort of candidate?
What sort of coach could they hope to obtain if
they decided to move on from Darren Rizzy as the
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interim guy if this season doesn't get turned.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Around, Well, here's the problem. Their cap is a disaster.
I mean, it's going to be a three year fix.
So whoever does take that job better get assurances they're
getting like a six or seven year contract because it
is awful. Remember they're a team that kept pushing money
out every year.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Out out out.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Well, the bill is due and the bill is coming
do and the players are getting old and it's a
major problem. That job is not an attractive job at all,
and so it's a great fan base when you win,
and people forget. Back in the day when they were awful,
nobody went to those games, So it's not a good situation.
So I think that's going to either be a young
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guy who just wants an opportunitybody better get a long
term deal. He's going to have a four year deal
and get out of there in two. Or it's going
to be one of these guys that you know, old
time guys that wants another opportunity to come in there
and says, look, i'll take the retirement money, give me
five years. If you fire me in two I'll do that.
But it's not a good situation. And I thought before
the season age was becoming an issue across the board,
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but then they had all those injuries and it really
went off the rail. So it's not a great job.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Are you looking at how them letting go of Alan
you know, we heard we heard Jerry Jones say that
that he would be an idiot or a moron or
whatever it was. He isn't that, and he wouldn't fire
a coach during the season, but it seems like that's
becoming more and more of a trend in today's NFL.
Do you think that there's the possibilities that Jerry might
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have to go back on his word of basically saying
you have to be an idiot to get rid of
your coach during the season. I mean, Dallas is in
the same type of position that I mean, may be
worse if you think, than what the New Orleans Saints
are in right now.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah, and look, the Cowboys are in big trouble now.
Prescott's out, so they're not going to win games. So yeah,
I mean, but following this firing coach in the middle
of the season, ever saw anything? And the answer to
that question is no. But what it does do It
allows you to get a head start on next year
and who you might be eyeing and get the process
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going a little bit without having a guy looking over
his shoulder all the time. So I think from that standpoint, maybe,
but I don't think it changes anything for a team.
What are the New Orleans Saints going to do with
Rizzy coaching them? Are they going to do it because
the roster's depleted? Are they going to change anything in
that building? It doesn't make any sense. So no, I
don't I don't think firing a coach in season unless
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unless you want to get the process started, uh and
start looking around and see what's out there and tell
the fan base, look, we're not gonna we're not going
to tolerate this, you know, awful football, and we are
going to be better. We're going to start looking for
somebody to make the improvement. So I think in a
lot of situations, the general managers should be the one
who's fired, in large part because he's the one that
built the crappy roster.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Pete, is this because you had the Saints minus seven
and a half this weekend at Carolina?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Is that what happened?
Speaker 5 (23:41):
No? But I will complain about one. I got one
that I complain about though, the Eagles twenty two nothing
at the half? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You were I was on.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yes, Yes, that was one. I was on the right
side of the When you look at when you look
at Nick Sirianni and he's stupidity of not kicking field
goals up six to make it nine point game. Then
he kept going for it for going for two twice
he didn't kick field goals and then they converted a
fourth and twelve Jacksonville to go get the touchdown to
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cover late. Give me a break that they had no
business being in that game. When you have a team
down like that, you put him away. That's why I'm
concerned about the Eagles and so yeah, that's one. I
was on the right side of it and it went
rock real quick.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Can you have a shout out to your boy camp Scottaboo.
I mean that that dude can tote the rock man?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Can he tote the rock in the National Football League?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
I think that can.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
But I feel like, but you know, he's hurt. He's
hurt this week. You know that, right, he might not
play this Yeah, and the way he plays is so violent.
He takes so many hits. I worry about that kid.
But boy, he's a tough, tough running back. I love
watching him play. And and by the way, I will
give a shout out to head coach Kenny Dillingham. And
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you know I don't do that all the time when
it comes to my album Mater. What he done with
that team is impressive. It really is. Because they don't
have the manpowered, they don't have the money that everybody
else has, and they don't have the ability to build
a roster. But he has that team competitive and if
they went out, I think they play in the Big
twelfth title game.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They need they need some help, but I believe if
they went out they would have a shot. Yes, I
believe there's like one other scenario that needs to take place.
But either way, Uh oh, Tom Jonas Hell yeah, Cam Scataboo,
I will hold a running back position. Just just want
to point that out there for you to Pete LeVar.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
By the way, it looks like he does curls every
hour of every single day. To thank Cam skataboo. Oh
my god, it is my gosh. Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports. Right, we got
a positive Pete Prisco today.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, Pete, are you doing?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I did rip the sticker, so I got that done.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Hey Pete, I have a good one.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Uh all right, guys, take.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
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Speaker 4 (26:06):
That was a damn fun football game last night. Man,
So now he's a little dueling. We just watched the MVP.
That's what we watched, Jesus Man. Lamarson's awesome. Man, He's
so good. He's so good. He's better than the Store was.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Great too, he was, but it was it was also
a combination of how great Jamar Chase is.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Like, that's an incredible one two punch. But when I.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Watched Lamar, I look there and I go, that's the
best quarterback right now.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
The way he's playing in the league.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Now, that doesn't mean that they're going to beat Kansas
City when the Chiefs take them on and versus Patch Mahomes.
But if you're looking at your MVP right now in
the season, I know there's some people who think Josh
Allen would be up there too, and he is. But
the only reason why we look at Lamar Jackson and
we don't think that he should win and win the
MVP is because of what he hasn't done in the postseason, which,
(27:00):
if you think about it, I mean it's not a
postseason award. And on top of that, we never held
other quarterbacks to that standard. I mean Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning,
Like did we ever talk about for that period of
time before Manning got his second in Denver, which was
largely led by the defense.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
We never said that. We were just like, hey, if
he's deserving of it, he gets it.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So I'm not sure why so many people keep trying
to hold up Lamar Jackson to this postseason standard of.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
What he's he done. He's been incredible throughout the entirety
of his career. In the regular season.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah, that was and I think kind of I was
going into the season with like, well, you know he
wanted already. It's not like he's going to do it again. No,
I mean, he's probably going to do it again. And
he's better this year, I would say, than he was
last year, and last year was the MVP. And when
you saw the game last night, you just it felt
like one of those Ravens games that we've talked about
(27:57):
before to where it's like, right when you think, all right,
this is the team I'm gonna ride with, they have
a letdown a game against the Raiders, a game against
the Browns, and then the second half came out, there
was that fumble by Cincinnati and they just never looked
back and and Cincinnati couldn't get a stop on defense,
and they were just dealing from there on out.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
So that was fun. Burrow was dealing, though he was dealing.
They were playing. Now it was a game, and listen,
it's it's nice when you can see two old school
AFC opponents duel it out the way that they did.
You know that that made for points. But they put
(28:36):
up points. I mean, you know, they it is whatever
you're saying. I mean, it is what I'm saying. I mean,
they did put up points. And it was interesting though
for all the good things that Joe Burrow did in
that moment of truth, it was I don't know, was
it a bad decision to throw the ball. Were there
some penalties that were left on you know, Oh my
(28:59):
god in this I mean, you know, I just he
took a beating too, yeah, I mean yeah, he did
get hit. There was some blatant miss calls and in
terms of pass interferences and stuff like that. I mean,
it just seems like.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
We personal foul too personal get hit a quarterback in
the helmet like that.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, I mean, and it's funny because generally speaking, when
you see a quarterback get touched, there's a flag that
comes out. So how does that work? Right? You know?
I think they missed two hands to the face.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
There was the other one too, to where herb Street
was like, yeah, I think it might have been. And
then the more they closed in on it, like no,
there was like a legitimate grab of the face mash
that was missed that they didn't call. Yeah, he took
a beating last night. Burrow did talk about some of
the miss calls following the game afterwards. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, you're not getting those calls in that situation for
the most part.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
A couple of meet potentially late hits on the United
didn't get black as that. Do you feel like that's
the point.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I feel like I've never really gotten those calls, so
I don't really expect that.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
I felt like there were a couple that were close,
but again I don't expect those.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
So just kind of wearing it the Ravens defense.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
What's he saying that birth that you said Mahomes would
have gotten him, but but he doesn't get him.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Is that what he's saying? Apparently, you know, I think
he was we can't catch a break, can't we? Well,
that might have been what mahomes.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Mahomes gets those calls.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Every Mahomes gets those calls. If you have bad breath
and you breathe on Mahomes during the course of the game,
you're getting a personal foul penalty.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
If you have one of Lee's leaky farts slips, you're
getting You're getting a call.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You're getting a call. I mean, I get it. But
I'll say this. I think this was said on the
show maybe yesterday or or the day before. There are
there are a few teams that can stand up to
the Kansas City Chiefs if Baltimore can tinues to play
(31:01):
the way that they're playing. And that's a big if,
because for some strange reason, they always give us a
game where it makes you lose your confidence in what
it is that you think they can do. I'm telling you,
I thought that last night was Zach game again.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
In the first they get you every time.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
They get you every time. But Baltimore and Buffalo, and
I'm curious to see how Buffalo plays this weekend because
this almost seems like this is is heading towards like
almost like a freak train type of collision course. And
these teams, these elite teams, are showing one another how
(31:43):
elite they are. You know, last night, we can look
at Cincinnati and we can call them a lot of
things based off of what they haven't been able to
get done this season, But that's still the Cincinnati Bengals
that has Joe Burrow. And I think you could see
that last night.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
You know, I was thinking when I watched the game,
I wish Cincinnati was in the NFC, one of the
most they could.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Just get the hell out of the a f C.
That team AFC North.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
North, Yeah, put them in the South, put them, put
them anywhere, but in their playoff team.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
I think it's going to be interesting coming down the
stretch to see how those three teams play, because Kansas
City is the team that we'll say is the best
team in the league, but they don't play the best football,
which is kind of a you know, is that a conundrum?
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Is that a you know, kind of a you know, what,
what's what's the word you use when it's like it's
something but it's not that, But it is that like
they're the best team by record, but they're not the
best team. A calamity. No, it's not a calamity. That'd
be bad. A facade. Not a facade, Not a facade.
It's it's uh, I don't know. It's like maybe that
(33:01):
might be it right there. It's a delap it's a delapism. Anyway.
I just look at this Kansasy Chiefs team and I say,
going into the ecotomy, dichotomy is a good one. That
suld be interesting. Dichotomy, that's a good one. It wasn't
the word I was looking for. Maybe it is conundrum
that I was looking for. Maybe that is the word
(33:23):
I was looking for. Yeah, it does work. It just
doesn't seem like they should be considered the best team
in the league, even though they're undefeated. But they are
the best team in the league and they're undefeated. But
I think watching Baltimore last night, and hell, even watching
the way Cincinnati played last night, I would say both
(33:45):
of those teams the way they played last night could
beat the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Cincinnati, I hope they I hope they are a seven
seed because whoever's the two and how they.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Might be in trouble. Yes, Sensing might could be a sleeper,
Like they definitely could be that team that knocks off
the team that wasn't supposed to leave as early as
they were planning to leave in the playoffs. And there's Buffalo,
there's Buffalo, and there's Baltimore. And if you're asking me
who's the best team, I'll say the hottest team, I
(34:17):
guess it is Baltimore, but I'm not so sure Buffalo
can't take that title as well. So it's kind of
it's I think it's shaping up to be pretty interesting
to make it out of the AFC because that's the goatlet,
and then now you got the NFC, where it's like,
what is the gatlet? In the NFC, it's the easier
(34:39):
road travel, it's the easier path to get to the
final game. But is that a good thing or is
that a bad thing? Is the best team in the
NFC able to beat one of those three teams? Because
I think it's going to come down to one of
those three teams, Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo, one of those
three teams are going to the Super Bowl. Is the
best team in the NFC, which is considerably like most
(35:03):
people are saying that's that's Detroit is the best team
out of the NFC going to be able to stand
up to one of those three teams. I think that's
a great It's gonna make for an interesting set up
for the Super Bowl. But I think that the playoffs
on the a f C side.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Is going to be nuts. Yeah, that's uh. I mean
it's stacked every year. This year is gonna be a
lot of fun. Now there is a there there's a uh.
You know, people are having a discussion about zero sugar
creamer is the worst too, by the way, the worst?
Why you use I grabbed it by accident. I grabbed it.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
You shouldn't even be in there. Agree doesn't have all
that stuff that causes cancer? You know, I don't know.
You know the missus uses zero sugar. She doesn't.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
You should We asked Lee to wait on this or
is he still.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
He's still not in the chair, you know, Coop coopby
hassat and let me get Yeah, come on, you're not
You're not getting the river. Come on, rivers, Coop, you
ain't getting that the same who's that? Who's the actress
that's always playing poker? Now? Is it Lily Tomlin. Is
(36:14):
that her name? What?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
What's the uh the actress? It's always playing poker. I
hope you're not asking me. No, you can't be asking
them in the back because they Jennifer Tilly. Oh, Jennifer Taylor.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
That's who it is. I love her. Yeah, the way
Cooper spotted so does he? She was in liar Liar?
Oh that's right.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Oh did you guys gamble on set. I was not
a poker player back then.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Okay, well who was she? Liar? Who's the wife? No,
she was his client. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, five pounds?
Yeah in your bra?
Speaker 7 (36:50):
Yeah right, ye zeppelins, Yeah yeah, looking poker player.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Uh interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Now, did you guys have any issue with Cincinnati going
for two at the end of that game, because I
know Pete Prisco was on fire? Oh yeah, I thought
it was the dumbest thing in the world. They had
time out, you know, even if Baltimore goes. I looked
at it, and because everyone's trying to go for it,
they're trying to compare it to what Tampa Bay did
(37:21):
on Monday Night Football, and it's completely different. Tampa Bay
is like, you look at the situation and you go
they probably should have gone for two. The fact that
Kansas City got the ball back, went down and scored
was an indicator that, yeah, that was your opportunity.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
You were two yards away.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The idea that Cincinnati should have just done what Tampa
Bay did because well, you know, you're not as bang like, No, you.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Couldn't stop Baltimore at all. You're two yards away from
winning the game. Go for it? Yes, like this idea
that like you're gonna leave it and you got Joe
Burrow and Jamar would you go for it?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Would you rather leave it up to a coin flip
or a two yard gain? With what your offense has
done in the game thus far, I'll take a two
yard game all day long. It just didn't work out
for him.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah. Right, there's a couple of miss That's all I
was gonna say too.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
The way that game was going, you got the sense
too that they could score. It feel like it feels
like whoever had the ball last was gonna ultimately win
even with the timeouts. So I had no issue with it.
I'm not sure why Pete get off my Lawn Prisco as.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
An issue with it, but he seemed he seems to.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Be frustrated by anything that he probably had Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Minus six two. I mean, well, let's be real about it.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
We'll get to Quinn's wins at some point, but just
I mean, look, I'm happy for one win because it
was looking like h to three for a minute.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
But can we discuss the fact that.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
With the way that game was going, I was looking
at a three and zero, everything was gonna be great
to hit the over. I'm feeling good, Baltimore's up seven,
feeling good. And then Burrow drives back down with a
chance to go ahead, and went at the two point version,
which at that point I was praying to kick the
pat just to go into overtime, and then hopefully Baltimore
won the coin toss and drives on gets touchdown, game over,
(39:10):
but just with a push in that case. But is
it a bad beat if you lose by a half point?
By the way, like the Coast of Carolina app State game,
I took the over of sixty two and a half,
it hit at the under at sixty two.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, it's a bad beat. I mean that is did
you get pit of me, by the way.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Did you shop around for it or was that the best?
Was that the best line? You could find, well, I.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Would use DraftKings, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
So I'm just faithful to our show, so I don't
shop around.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I just use DraftKings.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I agree, you know, I meant like shop around you
know during the week, like maybe fine day, have better line.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
That's totally what I meant. But I just yeah, that's
a rough way to go.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And then just to see the way the game was
playing out, Yeah, you know you probably thought, and we
can get into more in depth on it. While you're
sitting there kind of sweating out yours old you know,
you've got friends over celebrating, you know, throughout three team
parlays with you know, over passing and receiving yards and
all that that came along with it. So it was
(40:10):
a fun night, fun game. I still don't look at
Cincinnati and say, well that that's a make or break
for the season. Still a chance they could get that
seven seed. They're gonna have to battle that with Denver.
But I think everybody can agree no offense to Denver.
Just you know, once you step aside, let Cincinnati get
that seven seed, you know, spice up the AFC playoffs
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
We I think that'd be the most dangerous team.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
To to your earlier point, no one wants to see
Cincinnati in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, it's and then you look at just Baltimore and
or the television.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah, a little distracted here, maybe Jennifer Tilly. They got
WI shut on right now, but out of control. You
know what? A very good scene in that movie, A
few of them, as it turns out, ahead of its time.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Way maybe more real life than I mean, I always
knew that that stuff was real.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
I don't know why y'ah didn't think it was real?
By the way, didn't he the director? I don't know,
he's a Jona's more real than what people.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, didn't didn't He kind of a have an unfortunate
situation following the making of that movie.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
I believe, well it was his last movie. Huang weird.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Hell, can we talk to Coop about just what I'm
sending you in the chat right now? Because I feel Coop,
how old were you when you were a port of
lie liar?
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I mean that's uh hey seven seven? Okay, yeah, but
that yeah, I mean yeah, you could come through hell.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah your eyes still that's a that's a problem for
a seven year old boy, because you you know exactly
what's going on?
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Can I mean, Cooper, is this the Jennifer Tilla you remember?
Speaker 6 (42:04):
Yes, her hair was like like short and blonde in
that like it had like a pixie cut thing going on.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah, that doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. There's some anatomy
there that's hard to pass up on.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
You're not drowning if you go swimming with her, coop,
And that was basically her entire character.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
It was just that was the focal point.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
You know. I guess that's maybe kind of in every role.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
You know that she's a no, she's playing Texas hold
them on, you know, various networks.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
So good for her. All right, well, who knew that
was gonna Let's just take a break so we can
watch a little bit of this show. You know, it
is what it is, the Baltimore Ravens won Like, Yeah,
a lot going on on that Eyes White show. I
got we got a focus because we got to knock
this uh this Laver out, you know what I mean. Right,
(43:04):
I'll tell you what it is real.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
It is two pros, and it is here on radio
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. So
we're gonna have the usuals coming up later on. We
do have another edition of In case you missed it.
We've got our picks against the Spread, We've got some
Lee's leftovers, and while eyes wide shut maybe going on
in the studio, it's definitely not here because we do
have some good news for you.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
This is important news.
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Football here right, football, yes, Friday.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Right to see what a thing? What a thing? What socco?
Miss old? Yes, fire hate figure bowed up? Blow it up?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Light right?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Come on, let's do it, Priddy, Let's do it, Braddy,
Come on, let's do a Praddy ride. Hey, night is
a bride fall bride?
Speaker 5 (44:25):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (44:29):
What a masks?
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Masks mask? It is a h It is a godly
This movie is so stuck. I forgot how stone cold
this movie really is.
Speaker 4 (44:40):
Man stone cold movie. I mean, and they said Diddy
like rewrote the rules. By the way, how many people
back by how many?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
How many people couldn't find their car keys in their
pocket during this movie?
Speaker 4 (45:00):
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