May 24, 2025 • 49 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Niners finally reward Brock with a huge contract. The Old P, Petros Papadakis fights for the tradition of USC vs Notre Dame. Plus, the Wheel of the Indy 500.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe when Lamar Aarings had rating win and Jonas Knotts
on five fours radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It was a lot to get to in the world
of sports. It was a busy weekend. But I feel
like we must give congratulations in order many people this morning,
but most notably congratulations to somebody who got rich over
the weekend. This is a story we've been monitoring, wondering
when this is going to happen. Micah Parsons, You're up next.
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But Rock Party got paid, got paid in a big
way by the San Francisco forty nine ers. We were
awaiting when is this going to get done? As speculation was,
are they, you know, on the same page. But the details,
at least that are reported now five years, two hundred
and sixty five million dollars, one hundred and eighty one
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million dollars in guarantee he's and so away we go
with what the contract actually means as opposed to what
the numbers are that are being reported.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, so there's not a ton of details being reported yet. However,
it is an extension onto what he was going to
make this year. So the contract actually expires in twenty thirty.
He would become a free agent in twenty thirty one.
So for all you San Francisco forty nine ers fans,
you got your guy, brock Perty He's your quarterback for
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the foreseeable future. And if you're not excited about that,
well you're stuck with him. But look, he's played well,
he's done a good job in Kyle Shanahan's system, has
had pretty much every quarterback that's played in Kyle shanahan
system besides Trey Lance. It's a five year, two hundred
sixty five million dollar extension, although when you include twenty
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twenty five, it really turns into kind of a six
year deal. He is going to be slated to make
the new money averages fifty three million per year. One
hundred and eighty one of that is in total guarantees. Now,
again we don't have all the details, but given that
again and it's an extension onto the contract that he's
currently planned out this year, the average is really closer
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to forty four million per year, and they'll be able
to spread out whatever that signing bonus is once that's
once it's filed, once that's announced, over the duration of
the contract so not overly punitive. I think the people
out there who are concerned that he's going to break
the bank and hamstring the San Francisco forty nine ers
from being able to sign other guys because they've had
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such a talented roster. I don't think it falls in
that category. I always I don't think it's going to
fall into that category. So it's kind of the best
of both worlds. Perty gets his payday, the Shanahan Shanahan
and John Lynch get their guy for the foreseeable future,
and there's still enough cap space to go around to
spend on some of the talented players on that roster.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, my first my first go at it was okay,
it's it does average over fifty million, like he's a
fifty million a year guy, But like you said, Q,
upon further review, it is in the forties, not in
the fifties per year.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
It's a it's a.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Franchise friendly contract, but it's also a player friendly contract.
I think that that's something that should exist more often.
You know, there should be a win for both sides
in these types of scenarios, and that's what it sounds.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Like what took place.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's interesting because it does look as though Kyle Shanahan
and we could even say John Lynch in this case,
have attached their wagons to Brock party. They're they're they're
putting their money down on the table and saying that
if we're going to win, it's going to be winning
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with with Brock Purty as our quarterback. Now, I know
we everybody will continue to reference what Puka Nakua said
in terms of however much they invest in Brock Purdy
means that the window of opportunity may be closing for
the forty nine ers. Well, I'll say this, I believe
before you even do a deal with Brock Purty, the
window of opportunity is closing on this particular team.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Damn damn, yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And because again I don't think it addresses all of
the question marks that text, well, I don't know that
that's a sticks pick, but but thank you. I'll say
this again, there are too many question marks.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
The too many question marks are.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Really based off of three individual players collectively.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Like I think that the defense.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You know, obviously they've had some some losses on that side,
losing green Law even though they didn't have him last year.
I think it played a part in why that defense
wasn't as dynamic as it could be. I thought him
and Warner together were a great tandem at the linebacker position.
But my biggest questions and concerns are, again, it stems
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from do you have a healthy Trump Williams? And do
you have a motivated Trent Williams? Do you have a
healthy Christian McCaffrey. Can he stay healthy during the course
of the season. Do you have a healthy Brandon Ayyuk?
And can Ayuk come back and be the player he
needs to be? Those are my biggest question marks and
that should be the biggest concerns. And to me, honestly,
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if you don't have those guys, if you don't have
those those players.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
On your team, do you have Do you.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Have the players to step in and be more for
this forty nine team than what they had this year?
And I won't sit there and say it's a definitive no,
But what I will say is is that it's too
much of a question mark in my eyes to actually
feel as though if that were to play out the
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way that it did this past year, can you hold
brock Party accountable for not having his best weapons and
his best players. They lose obviously Deebo Samuel. They still
have Kittle, which is a which is a big deal,
but can you get it done with with the other
guys that are on this on this roster and I
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feel like that to me says that it's still a
window that's closing, even though you may have a quarterback
that once this window for this particular personnel group may close,
you may start a rebuild. But it sounds as though
they're comfortable with starting a personnel rebuild fellas with Rock
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Party as their quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So it was reported yesterday from NBC Sports Bay Area
that they are close to finalizing a deal for Fred.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Warner, so they're looking to lock him up long term
as well.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Too, so they could you know, in one off season
Kittle gets taken care of Rock Party, Fred Warner, you
still have your nucleus there. I'm assuming they're not going
to have as bad of luck as they did last
year where all the injuries took place, everything went on.
Yet a guy gets shot in downtown in broad daylight.
(07:19):
I'm assuming that wouldn't happen again, but who knows. It
just seems like San Francisco, I mean it seems like
I've seen any but that walk there at two thirty
is gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But it's like bags of homeless people.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I don't know, little homeless hopscotch you know, to
start your day. But it does feel like, you know,
anything that could go wrong for that team went wrong
last year, so maybe you know law of averages kicks
in and it's not going to go as poorly this
time around. I don't know that the windows completely closed.
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I would still say I kind of like the rams
chances in that division, and I don't have no.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Idea what to expect from Seattle in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I think I don't have no idea. I feel like
Arizona's building something right. I mean, they improved, they've gotten better.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
When Kyler Mary is on the field with that team,
they're a better team. If he's able to stay on
the field and not leave due to injuries. It's it's
a They're a competitive team, they really are. But the
rest of them, again, I think, obviously I say question
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marks for the Niners, and I agree with you here,
Jonas is that they are they are a question mark.
Seattle is a question mark. And again I highlighted the
forty nine ers being the question mark. I think the
biggest win this offseason for a team was probably Matthew
Stafford getting retained by by the Rams. And it's a
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pretty decent team. They lose Cup, but Pookin Nakua seems
poised to be able to make a run at it
and being the guy. I mean, you have to see
if he can stay healthy as well. He's dealt with
little little injuries as well that have have kept him
off the field. Their defense, I think will be pretty
pretty significant. They'll take a pretty significant jump in the
(09:20):
right direction this year. I think the Rams are the
team to be in the West. I don't understand why
they have the forty nine ers as as the odds
betting favor to win that division.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The Niners schedules pretty manageable. Like they've got some real
bad teams on the schedule. You know, no, no offense
to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
No, there you go.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
You know, I'm just saying no offense.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
When do they pay the Bears?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
When do they play that team with the quarterback doesn
want to be there?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
You know that's Week seventeen.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
They've got the Bears that will be featured on Sunday
Night football.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
That'll probably get Cravi spoon. Okay, that'll probably get fly.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So you know, just maybe things are looking on the
up and up. Now all of a sudden, brock Purty
gets paid. By the way, speaking of Kaya Williams, doesn't
this kind of justify their reasoning with you know, we'd
like to go somewhere where we feel like we could
really flourish and shine because Brock Party was taken last
in the draft, ends up in a great situation and
(10:21):
just made generational wealth. Like this just goes to show
you it's all about development. It's all about where you
land and where you end up. And if you end
up in an awful situation, you don't get to live
to see what this looks like for Brock Party moving forward.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well you may, you may, but just be different circumstances,
that's all. Ye I don't know about that. I mean,
there's like a jackpot, like a winning ticket.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
San Francisco would be one of the spots La Rams
whoever's going to replace Matt Stafford, that's a big spot
ben Sean mcvay's system. There's a number of places. But yeah, no,
it's when he got drafted last overall. I mean, look,
he's earned it. He's done everything that they've asked him
to do. He's showed up in big moments. He's been tough.
That's part of it too, though, like he had to
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do his part, but he was he was given every
opportunity to succeed because of the organization that he's in
and obviously the way they're able to help players develop players.
It's not just Brock Purty. I mean, look at some
other guys who are in their system. You know, they're
able to maximize their talent ability. You know, if Deebo Samuel,
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you know, hadn't gone to San Francisco, would he have
become the type of player that Kyle Shanahan, you know,
helped him become within a system or he used him
in such a variety of ways to play to a
skill set. You make the same, you know statement about
Kyle Yuschek. There's not a lot of teams that know
how to utilize a fullback in the run game, but
Kyle Shanahan does, Kittle McCaffrey. I mean, you keep going
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on down the line. All these guys are talented enough
and good enough to go to demonstrate, you know, they
their true ability. But if you're not in a system
with a play caller who's creative enough and understands how
to put them in a position to succeed, none that's
going to work. So I mean, credits all, you know,
all those around it. But it's huge, huge for Rock Party.
(12:11):
I will ask this though, because LeVar said it is
the window. Then done for you? Jonas?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
With San Francisco, No, I would say no, just because
I don't know who you look at in the NFC
and go outside of Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Oh yeah, that's a team you gotta worry about.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Right, So this is why I asked this question. If
your San Francisco hypothetically speak, this is a complete hypothetical, okay,
but let's just say they played in the AFC. If
you stack up and compare Party to the other quarterbacks
in AFC, I kind of wonder, like, is he getting
this deal? Are they doing this? Like does it look
(12:52):
the same?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
No, it might, Jonas, come on, it only might because
if he's doing what he's doing in San France, if
he were having the same results with a team in
the AFC, you got to try to keep pace.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Let alone win it all.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You got to try to keep pace. I mean, if
you think about it, Lamar Jackson is trying.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
To keep pace.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
As good as he's been is a phenomenon. As he's been,
he's trying to keep pace. Joe Burrow trying to keep
pace came close closer than Lamar but didn't get it.
Hasn't gotten there. Josh Allen, same exact thing. You're trying
to keep pacing the AFC. That's how competitive the AFC
has been, and need I say, maybe as dominant as
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Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs have been during
this course of time.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
So I don't think.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
It will be a foregone conclusion that he doesn't get
compensated in the same way if he's getting the same
results with a different team in the AFC. You got
to try to keep pace. That doesn't mean you're going
In fact, Purdy has made it further than those names
that I've mentioned outside of Joe Burrow think about it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, but I would also say the path there is
much more difficult than it is in the NFC to
where if you get to a super Bowl, I'm pretty
played great in that super Bowl, and you know you
talk to Steve Spagnolo said afterwards, he was fantastic, Like, yeah,
he did in that one off situation against Patrick Mahomes,
he was awesome. But if he had off, Yeah, but
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if he had to go through you know, Buffalo or
Baltimore or Cincinnati, who the hell knows if he ends
up there, Like, you know, that's a that's a whole
different story than having to deal with some of the
teams you go.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
But then you got to say, the question itself is hypothetical, right,
if we're making it a hypothetical, I'm assuming all things
giving given in the hypothetical that he's having the same
type of seasons that he's having in San Francisco. That's
what I that's what I would take from it.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think the difference is like the talent of the
other quarterbacks you're going up against.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's just yeah, it's different. I mean you can, Okay,
I'll ask this, who's the most talented quarterback in that division?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Joe Burrow in the NFC, Kyler Murray is the most talented.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Okay, there you got your name, Stafford, you guys, you
guys could debate all you want. But so, even with
this contract, he's the third best in the division.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
M hmm, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Jaylen Milroe. Damn yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So look, I just think he's he benefits from being
with the Niners. It's no hate, it's no you know,
you don't get to pick where you go. Even though
Caleb Williams tried. It's but he ended up in a
great spot.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
It is it is. I will say this, and I
know what, You're going to slide down in there like nobody.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know, I'm saying, you don't get to pick your spot.
Caleb Williams ended up in a great know what I'm saying.
Rock Party ended up in a great spot. Caleb Williams,
you know, he tried to pick a spot. It didn't work.
But I still think that I'm not certain that Trey
Lance really got a legitimate shot to be the guy.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
There with the Niners.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
He must have been bad, like in practice when they
saw him practice, when they saw him play, they must
have been like, who to f.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Scouted this dude? Instead, we should draft him. He really
didn't get much of a chance. Really, well, he just
got let go from his last team.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, well, think about this, how many teams could give
up what they gave up to trade up to take
him and then be able to overcome that.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
It's pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
That's what's crazy about is that typically divides an organization.
It tears down an organization and probably makes it difficult
for John Lynch the general manager, and Kyle Shannon to
work together, or whoever's within the scouting department to work together.
It didn't it didn't do anything. It literally had almost
no impact whatsoever outside of that organization not being able
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to draft around brock perty or put more talented players
on that roster.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Which, by the way, Trey Lance is probably somewhere sitting
in the corner or a shower, sitting on the floor,
curled up in a fetal position, upset.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I know, I would be. I would be. You had everything,
you had.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
All the odds, like think about how you've had, You
had all the odds stacked in your favor to be
in the same situation, if not better, because you were
a high draft pick, which means you would have commanded
a higher, a bigger contract, and you didn't get it
done in San Francisco with John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
And as with the Chargers, you know, yeah, well maybe.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
He's a professional backup and they say, that's the best position.
You know, everybody I know that's been a quarterback, they say,
if you got to transition to a position, that's the
best position in sport. It's the backup quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, you become an insurance agent.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, you're basically selling teams insurance. Like, hey, something goes wrong,
I'm here for you.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
I'm here for you. I'm here to.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Make sure you guys get through that game and get
through the next few until you know your car gets repaired,
and then I'll then I'll be back there just kind
of waiting to come back in to save the day again.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Damn, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I love that for I love that for every quarterback
that's out there backing up the guy that's starting.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
You know, Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
But then there, I mean, there's then there's some who
are like, I don't want to play. Yeah, it's this
team is terrible. I go into this team, I'm gonna
get taken out like they're gonna it's not gonna work
out well for me.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yes, I'm a little scary. How do you get out
of that?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well, I just depend it's on the type of savviness
that that veteran backup as some cases they just see
latch on like a parasite to the starter, and they
hope they can survive through the coaching changes, the general
managers changes. There's those guys out there, some on TV.
There's other guys out there who they h you know,
(19:14):
they'll just kind of wiggle the way out and find
their way to another organization. They just they figure it
out and they know how, they know how to talk
to to the guys to get somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
So not a bad gig's crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
It's more political with quarterbacks if we try it that,
they'd be like LaVar, get the half out of my
face and get out there and play some football, buddy.
We need some tackles, we need some I n T s,
and we certainly need some sacks from you.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's sound that sounded like a front office executive. Can
you give me someone from the coaching staff that says
that to you?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Well, well, hoss, why do all coaches have like Southern accents?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Like sounds better when they're a coach and they have
a Southern accent, It just does.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Well, Hoss, I'm gonna need you to get out there.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I'm gonna need you to make me a play. B
A A baby, B A A winning doubt, B A A.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yes, sir, let's go do it. That's all you need, Yes, sir? Now,
are you wondering what B A A means? Jonas, she
got it? Do you do you know what the acronym
is now? B an athlete, b A A baby, winning doubt,
(20:27):
B A A.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
B A A house?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, thanks, coach?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
What just what exactly did you say when when the
three receiver goes to the flat and the two receiver
goes down the seam and we're in cover to what
what exactly B A A?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Wait? Wait?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Wait some coverage there?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Do I just sit in the hook? Do you want
me to carry? Do you want me to carry the seam?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Like?
Speaker 7 (20:54):
What?
Speaker 5 (20:56):
B A A baby?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
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Speaker 2 (21:11):
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and one Wednesday tradition that will not go by by
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is the co host of The Petroffs and Money Show.
But you can hear on the Blowtorch a five seventy
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Speaker 6 (21:30):
Analyst and our good buddy Pee. What's happening?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I'm not much just here in the morning. I'm like Bretch.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Oh, I like Brady.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
I mean I don't understand, Like if my stuff doesn't work,
I go crazy and like I would desperately find some
other way.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know, what happened?
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Where is he? H?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
You're can you walk into you walk us through what
happened here?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I would prefer not to, but.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Yeah, we were using of course you would certain kind
of uh technology that just wasn't fitting in the City
of the Comics.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Let's say you talking to Petros right now, so it's
going to be very interesting.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Well, not that anybodys unit, not that anybody who's listening
understands what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
But he didn't have his Comrax special.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
It's it's something you buy that turns a phone line
into a radio line.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yes, yes, and com Rexes are great.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Unfortunately Ethernet, they're very hard to find these days.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Unfortunately, where he was staying was not compatible with a
com rex, so we were using a Lucy app uh,
and the Lucy just was not working where he was staying.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Now today we'll.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Call the hotel in advance to find out if they
were friendly to do radio.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Oh yes, we did, of course.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Perhaps a separate room with an Ethernet cable.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Oh, that's a Perhaps a studio.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
That's that was all the Fox Fox Radio studio.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
iHeart media studio.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
You know you like what we did in Houston.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
You know, I don't know you know.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
You No, I'm just saying, you know, these things have
happened to.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Me in the past.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Yeah, and very very very very triggering to everybody. Well,
you can't get on the air. It's a great frustration.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
So it's like there's a great Greek saying about impotence
that that applies. It's called now that the now that
the ocean has turned to yogurt. I've lost my spoon.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I don't understand that one.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I like that. Maybe you should think hard.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
How could you not understand that?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
And it out loud before he thought about it, which is.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Back up two steps and rub your temples, all right, So.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Here, Well, I wanted I wanted to ask you about
this because I mean, it's a.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Whole no to an ass thing. And Brady's playing a
slot at the Golden Nugget.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, and look, I don't know if he's doing Double
Dolphins right now or if he found another machine that
works better.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
But I was curious, you know, with Double Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
One of the great slot machines in the history of
a You know, the themes of.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
The slot machines have changed so much. Yeah, you know,
they used to be just like super racial with like
a giant like Fu Manchu looking guy.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
They still have those, yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
They do, but now it's like The Ellen Show, right,
But I don't want to play a slot with the
weird ass Allen Show. What are they gonna do? Put
me in a cult?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
They an NFL slot machine now, too, don't bet it
like an NFL theme one makes sense.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Pitches.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I was wondering because I.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
All, the slot at Antonio Brown shoots at you.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
What.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Bang bang? And if you could get like an empty clip,
you won you know.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
What I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Like pictures like you land on five hundred on the
wheel and Tyreek Hill get you pregnant?
Speaker 7 (24:59):
It's great?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Oh wow? Is like coins. They represent the babies coming out.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Without accusation.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yes, wheel of Watson, will of Rowe, bounty of but.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
So Petro's I did.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Speaking of the NFL, Jim Harbaugh is a huge Petros
Papadakas fan. I mean, he would you talk about ball
washing like? He's a huge fan. So what is the backstory?
Because you guys, I haven't heard him. I haven't heard
him speak as highly of someone and celebrate someone like
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he has of you, other than justin Herbert a year ago.
What's the backstory there? You know what I said after
talk to Harbaugh?
Speaker 7 (25:58):
What's that got a towel?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Oh wow? No needed it?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Well, he would always need it. I watch a lot
of sack when anybody comes on the show, we show a.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Lot of It was awesome to hear, though.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
I've had a lot of I've had a lot of
different run ins or interactions over the years with with
coach Harbob, and I'm sure I've talked to you guys
about it. But sometimes I see him and we don't
have the same kind of interaction, you know what I mean.
But every maybe two or three times we talk about
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the old times and go down a road like that.
I met him when he was at usd SO, and
then I called a ton of those games when he
was building Stanford up. And uh then when I was
training to Marco Murray for that one season, we even
went to the Big House and called a game out
there before he just took over and had that dominant
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couple of seasons. Uh So I know him in that regard.
I watched him build Stanford football up, which was a
modern day football miracle. It really was what he did
at Stanford. How he did it at Stanford is the
stuff that people will talk about for a long time,
not just Stanford types. So I think it reminds him
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of a time that maybe was a little more simple,
or a time when he was coming up. Has had
a young family and all that, so maybe that's why.
But yeah, I always love seeing Jim Harbaugh. It's always
interesting to talk to him, and he's I mean, there's
a lot of great characters in football, and there's a
lot of great characters who have had a lot of success,
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and he's probably at the top of that list.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Can I just sorry to interrupt, bar, but I just
want to ask this when.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You mentioned the Stanford stuff, what was it about that
turnaround that felt different from maybe others that we've seen or.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Other Well, I mean, if you have familiar with Stanford football,
I mean, they just wouldn't have guys like Richard Sherman
on the team. They just wouldn't be able to get
him in. I'm sure Richard had really good grades and
all that, but maybe he's not the best example, but
to me, he's a shining example. He started out as
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a receiver there and they ended up moving him to
corner and ultimately that's kind of Stanford's problem.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean, they can recruit.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
They have the toughest they have the toughest admissions process
of any active FBS college football entity, meaning you really.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Can't get anybody in there.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
They can get and they can get tight ends, they
can get O line, they can get quarterbacks, they can
get linebackers, running backs, fullbacks, they have wide receivers, no problem.
They have trouble getting corners and a little bit like BYU,
they have some trouble with d line and that's kind
of been the long time rub on recruiting there. They
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just can't get a lot of these guys in when
I was younger. They had Nigerian guys, a bunch of them,
because those are the type of guys they could get in.
They had Babatunde, Oscehanowo, remember oj Attagway, Levartway.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Saint Louis ram I think loved him as a player.
So Harbaugh came and he had he had some kind
of experience at Stanford. He was raised for part of
his life in Palo Alto. His father had coached there,
and he understood the place. And it is really one
of the most foreign places that plays big time college football.
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It makes Duke and Vanderbilt and Northwestern look like Michigan football.
I mean, that's how odd Stanford football is, and it
really is. It's just a it's not for everybody. And
I went to his very first camp at Stanford and
watched them doing rills that you wouldn't do with a
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high school football team because you'd get people hurt. And
watching him turn the team into what they called the
whole intellectual brutality thing and make it like like they
were bring back the power play in football, block down.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Kick out, lead, the fullback through kind of thing.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
This was unprecedented and to do it at Stanford and
run USC basically run Pete Carroll out of the Pac
ten at the time by putting fifty five on him
in the coliseum I think in two thousand and nine,
where they.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Didn't even want to.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I mean, they wouldn't they stop tackling the power play US.
He gave up a Pete Carroll coach defense on the
floor of the coliseum. And the next year Pete Carroll
was gone and that was the what's your deal game?
What's your refferend deal? And you know, why'd you go
for two? Because I couldn't go for three? You know?
It was uh, it was so so Uh. That's that's
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kind of the crux of our relationship there, and I
recognized it. I loved Toby Gerhart. I loved Owen Mari Sick. Yeah,
I would love that player. Watched them play in high school.
Owen Mari Sick. They had a fullback who went both ways. Uh,
they had all those great tight ends like fleaner and
you know, go on and on and they had they
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were just fun to watch so uh and it was
interesting to watch them do battle with USC and their
time and uh, the chip Kelly organ teams it's a
great time in the in the PAC ten conference. So
I think that our memories go back to that. Sorry
if it's a long.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Answer, No, it's good. No, it's perfect. You know, it's radio.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
You're right.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
You know, I find myself in real life, like somebody
asked me a question, and I start from like Genesis,
you know, in the beginning God, you know, they're like
and then it's like, after five minutes, I realized it's like, look,
in real life, you.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Know, it's my job to fill time. I should really
wrap this up. You know, you gotta paint the picture,
you know, I get it. Yeah, you know, lazy, lazy
people do TV.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You know, you know people who want to work, they
do radio because you got to paint the whole.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
TV is good because you can get real hot take
going these days.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Oh yeah, you got to say something super quick, like
talk about somebody's girlfriend. Yeah, how important are they talk
about somebody's wife? How?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
What is your wife? What?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
What?
Speaker 5 (32:31):
What raises your wife? You know this talk about it.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
It's just funny that it took so long for people
to bring up the other side of the coin on
talking about racial relations.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
That's why you got a baby with a white woman.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
There you go, you know, there you go.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
There's always a way to have a comeback in these
types of medium forms.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
If you got a white bastard, run.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
God.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
If I die, then my child will be a bastard,
which is not accurate by Scarface and the Ghetto Boys
song my mind. He says, if I die, then my
child will be a bastard. And that's not the case.
If your child was born out of wedlock, then he's
a bastard, whether you're alive or not. But I don't
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believe the star of it. Yeah, and I do not
believe that Scarface has any bastards looking at it. Look
from the ghetto.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I just know that he never did any rhymes that
had another rapper come out and have to say I
did some digging and saw that. Well that's that's what
you have going on. But hey, to each his own.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
I don't see you sitting alone in your four cornered
room staring at candles. What is it?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, my mind's playing tricks on me.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
You know, my favorite mind is playing tricks on me.
Is the guy? The guy I don't think he made
it as long in the band. The Ghetto Boys got
the second verse guy, the guy that goes I'm mainly funny.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I d.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Everybody know. It's like, I'm a stupid web star.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
I thought he had Kane, but it was Gold and
the floor.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
But something right, He's stupid, dude.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Do you uh, who do you think out of the
l A team since we were you know, so heavy
on horrball? Which McVeigh or harball? Which one has the
better season this year? To Rams or or the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
That's a great question, you know.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Uh, the Chargers had such a great turnaround and then
they they performed in the playoffs kind of like they
have the previous years, which was shocking, I think to
people who support them. Uh, I love Justin Herbert and
I want to see him thrive. I think he's a
great kid and a really impressive player. And I saw
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in college and he's one of those guys who are like, yeah,
I could see that guy being really good in the NFL.
He's six six and he can move and he throws
the ball beautifully. He's got a great attitude. So it's
good to know that, you know, you feel right about
a quarterback. Every once in a while, they actually end up.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Being pretty good.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Mcveigh's great. You know, it's hard. He's really annoying to me.
Listening to him talk is like going to Tony Robbins seminar.
But he's a great coach. He understands offense, he's a
great play caller. At that level, you can have a
guy who's calling plays as the head coach and still
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actually win championships. I don't think it's ever happened in
college football, maybe not since Steve Spurrier. But you got
McVeigh calling his own plays, you got Andy Reid calling
his own plays, and they're the best of the best.
He's right up there with those guys and a very
exciting coach. Uh his hair is all gelled up. It's annoying.
(36:03):
Listening to him talk is annoying, but you cannot argue
with what they've done. Who has a better season? Gosh,
I hope it's the Chargers, just because I'm associated with him,
and my radio partner gets so mad if they lose that.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Uh oh, does Matt take it to heart when they lose?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I believe he takes it a little personal.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
You know, when you're with the team and you're on
the plane, you know you want him to win because
everybody's sad if they're you know what I'm saying, So
then you become emotionally involved. I signed everybody, not everybody,
you know me, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
It'd be a lot of loud ass laughers on losing
plane sometimes, and then there's that.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
One guy that stands up and goes, why the laughing.
We had some set tripping on some plays if they
were too if the flight was too long, we'd have
some guys get punched in the head.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Every once in a while, the player.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Is that John rob.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Somebody can just go too far.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Joan has touched on the Notre Dame USC thing.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, it's it's it's I brought up the idea of
like that transfer portal brouh. It's like it's up there
for USC, like people are getting the hell out of Dodge.
Seemingly it looks like at USC, well.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Let's let's talk on man, let's discuss at LeVar. I mean,
what's the but like, you're a Penn State guy, you're
a Penn State legend, obviously have great feelings about Penn State,
and you're wow, you know that your son's playing there.
I mean, you're one of the greatest defenders that ever
put on that uniform. What you're saying a lot because
there's a lot of people that have worn that uniform.
So what is the buzz about Penn State this this
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off season? Uh, it's that that quarterback's coming.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Back, right, Yeah, and the running backs are coming back.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
And they're gonna come Pete again for a Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Title, right and possibly national Right?
Speaker 7 (38:04):
So what is the buzz?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:07):
And if you can, if you're going to win the
Big Ten title, obviously you're going to be involved in
that too.
Speaker 9 (38:13):
What is the buzz about my alma mater this offse
and they're just in the world.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Oh that Uh, they don't want to play It seems
like they don't want to play Notre Dame, Right.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
That's the conversation. The buzz is that, like the positive buzz,
because because we don't want to play Notre Dame or
posturing in.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That way is not positive in my opinion.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
The positive buzz is that they have hired a GM
who is securing verbals for a freshman class.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
In twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Oka.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
That is the but there's not No one is talking
about the quarterback they have Mayava because they I don't
know why they would. Nobody's talking about who's coming in
or who's coming out for twenty twenty five. USC's buzz
this offseason is exactly what you said. We're trying to
wriggle out a Notre Dame and hey, look at this
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recruiting class that may or may not show up in
twenty twenty six. That is disgusting and sad. I don't
care what Colin Cowherd, who went to Eastern Washington thinks
about what USC should do because he went to a
couple rich guy, wealthy USC parties when he lived in
Manhattan Beach and now lives in Chicago. I don't need
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anybody from outside the USC world, grounded in the USC
traditions to tell me what USC should or shouldn't be doing.
I don't want to hear about how the backyard Brawl
isn't played anymore, or Bedlam or Texas Texas A and
M went away, or Oklahoma Nebraska. USC Notre Dame has
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been played for one hundred plus years. The only time
they ever took off was World War Two. It has
nothing to do with conference realignment, which is why that's
not an argument if USSE is too soft that a
new Big Ten schedule makes it so they can't play
Notre Dame, then maybe they should leave the Big Ten
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for God's sakes. And here's another question or statement from me.
If you can't beat Maryland or Minnesota, the hell are
you worried about who's on your schedule?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Anyway?
Speaker 7 (40:30):
You ain't competing for a national championship. You're not competing
for a Big Ten championship. And if you're scared a
Notre Dame, you can't compete for a national championship either.
None of these things make any sense. And if it's
Lincoln Riley who's behind it, and it seems like it,
the only reason he's still there is because of his
(40:52):
huge buyout. Here's a coach that's not embraced us these
traditions at all, has been beyond dis ap pointing ever
since his first year. And let's not forget him. Their
first year they lost the Cotton Bowl to Tulane with
Caleb Williams at quarterback healthy, So what are we looking at.
We're looking at a guy who doesn't want to be
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an sc or at least doesn't want to be an
sc the way us he is, who's not doing well
and this guy gets to say whether or not or
has an influence on whether or not US he plays
this giant hard schedule or not, or against Notre Dame
that they've done for one hundred years. You have no
say in it. Who cares what Lincoln Riley says. If
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it wasn't for his buyout, he'd be gone. He should
be gone anyway. So that's an interesting part of it.
But ultimately I do think US he's just posturing. I
think they'll sign for twenty twenty six. They'll wait to
see what the college Football playoff expansion is. But if
you're USC, wouldn't you rather have Notre Dame on your
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resume as opposed to Georgia Southern or something.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
So at the end of the.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Year, if you lose, you're going. It's a good you know,
it's right. It's just for business.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
It's the most gets made thing I've ever heard in
my life. And no one in like when USC lost
like thirteen straight years or didn't win for thirteen straight
years when I was a kid, it was very frustrating,
but nobody sat there and said, well, we shouldn't play anymore,
we can't beat these guys, or when Pete Carroll was dominating.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Imagine in those days.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
We still got to do Ohio State still got to
do Michigan. Be right, that's I don't run away from it. Well,
that's what you try to figure it out. That's who
you are, that's what you know. I mean, you're USC football.
You're supposed to be a blue blood. You don't remain
a blue blood by saying, well, we don't want to
play Notre Dame anymore, we got to play Rutgers.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
Shut your effing mouth, like I just I cannot, I
cannot believe it, but I do think, uh, you know,
when there's more playoff expansion, they'll probably sign a longer deal.
But if they missed one year, it's a travesty. And
I don't want to hear Colin cow and tell me
about what modern college football is like and how you
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can go buy a high school player and it's not
like it used to be. That has nothing to do
with USC playing Notre Dame. And if you should never
even talk about USC football, if you don't understand what
the rivalry is and why it should remain.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Like it, just at some point, if you don't have
at least a little tradition, then what is it Like it's.
Speaker 7 (43:22):
Basically, yeah, why let's just change the colors?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Like, look, I like Mike Gundy, but Mike gundy stance on, well,
you know, we're not playing Bedlam anymore because of them.
It's like, no, you probably could have figured out a
way to make that still work.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
But that's it feels like it was petty.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And it just feels like if you start eliminating the traditions,
like I'm willing to acknowledge, Hey, things have changed. There's
an expanded playoff, the transfer portal, nil, all that start.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
But if you, guys, if you leave a conference and
then okay, there's a conversation to be had. But USC
and Notre Dame have never been in the same conference.
That's what it's about. So none of these modern college
football stumbling blocks exist. They can play every year. That's
why Notre Dame. Notre Dame wants to play every year.
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They should play every year. They've played every year other
than World War Two. This ain't I know, the transfer
portal and nil, and we're in a crazy chaotic time
in college football, but I don't think it compares to
World War Two. We got to keep playing.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, true, it's odd, but uh, Petros, we appreciate it
as always.
Speaker 7 (44:27):
It's not odd, it's soft and it's bitch man.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Damn take that share, right, like did.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
USC when they were when they were competing for a title,
where you would lose one game in the BCS era
and it would be all over where they like, ah, gosh,
you know, we're so good. We don't want to play
Notre Dame anymore because it might hurt us. Shut up, Like,
if you don't want to play Notre Dame, go play
in Fresno, Like, shut up anyway, Go to Hawaii.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
Yeah, go to Hawaii, all right?
Speaker 7 (45:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Playing for why? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:04):
Get him on ex at the Old pe.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
He is Petros Papadegas, the co host of the Petros
and Money Show, which you can hear on the Blowtorch
Am five to seven e LA Sports, Fox College Football
analysts and our good buddy Petros.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
Thank you, we'll do it again next week.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
There he is, the great Petros Papadegas with us here
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It was a lot to get to in the world
of sports. It was a busy weekend. But I feel
like we must give congratulations in order many people this morning,
but most notably congratulations to somebody who got rich over
the weekend. This is a story we've been monitoring, wondering
when this is going to happen. Micah Parsons, You're up next.
(00:37):
But Rock Party got paid, got paid in a big
way by the San Francisco forty nine ers. We were
awaiting when is this going to get done? As speculation was,
are they, you know, on the same page. But the details,
at least that are reported now five years, two hundred
and sixty five million dollars, one hundred and eighty one
(00:58):
million dollars in guarantee he's and so away we go
with what the contract actually means as opposed to what
the numbers are that are being reported.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, so there's not a ton of details being reported yet. However,
it is an extension onto what he was going to
make this year. So the contract actually expires in twenty thirty.
He would become a free agent in twenty thirty one.
So for all you San Francisco forty nine ers fans,
you got your guy, brock Perty He's your quarterback for
(01:29):
the foreseeable future. And if you're not excited about that,
well you're stuck with him. But look, he's played well,
he's done a good job in Kyle Shanahan's system, has
had pretty much every quarterback that's played in Kyle shanahan
system besides Trey Lance. It's a five year, two hundred
sixty five million dollar extension, although when you include twenty
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twenty five, it really turns into kind of a six
year deal. He is going to be slated to make
the new money averages fifty three million per year. One
hundred and eighty one of that is in total guarantees. Now,
again we don't have all the details, but given that
again and it's an extension onto the contract that he's
currently planned out this year, the average is really closer
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to forty four million per year, and they'll be able
to spread out whatever that signing bonus is once that's
once it's filed, once that's announced, over the duration of
the contract so not overly punitive. I think the people
out there who are concerned that he's going to break
the bank and hamstring the San Francisco forty nine ers
from being able to sign other guys because they've had
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such a talented roster. I don't think it falls in
that category. I always I don't think it's going to
fall into that category. So it's kind of the best
of both worlds. Perty gets his payday, the Shanahan Shanahan
and John Lynch get their guy for the foreseeable future,
and there's still enough cap space to go around to
spend on some of the talented players on that roster.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, my first my first go at it was okay,
it's it does average over fifty million, like he's a
fifty million a year guy, But like you said, Q,
upon further review, it is in the forties, not in
the fifties per year.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
It's a it's a.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Franchise friendly contract, but it's also a player friendly contract.
I think that that's something that should exist more often.
You know, there should be a win for both sides
in these types of scenarios, and that's what it sounds.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Like what took place.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's interesting because it does look as though Kyle Shanahan
and we could even say John Lynch in this case,
have attached their wagons to Brock party. They're they're they're
putting their money down on the table and saying that
if we're going to win, it's going to be winning
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with with Brock Purty as our quarterback. Now, I know
we everybody will continue to reference what Puka Nakua said
in terms of however much they invest in Brock Purdy
means that the window of opportunity may be closing for
the forty nine ers. Well, I'll say this, I believe
before you even do a deal with Brock Purty, the
window of opportunity is closing on this particular team.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Damn damn, yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And because again I don't think it addresses all of
the question marks that text, well, I don't know that
that's a sticks pick, but but thank you. I'll say
this again, there are too many question marks.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
The too many question marks are.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Really based off of three individual players collectively.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Like I think that the defense.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
You know, obviously they've had some some losses on that side,
losing green Law even though they didn't have him last year.
I think it played a part in why that defense
wasn't as dynamic as it could be. I thought him
and Warner together were a great tandem at the linebacker position.
But my biggest questions and concerns are, again, it stems
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from do you have a healthy Trump Williams? And do
you have a motivated Trent Williams? Do you have a
healthy Christian McCaffrey. Can he stay healthy during the course
of the season. Do you have a healthy Brandon Ayyuk?
And can Ayuk come back and be the player he
needs to be? Those are my biggest question marks and
that should be the biggest concerns. And to me, honestly,
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if you don't have those guys, if you don't have
those those players.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
On your team, do you have Do you.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Have the players to step in and be more for
this forty nine team than what they had this year?
And I won't sit there and say it's a definitive no,
But what I will say is is that it's too
much of a question mark in my eyes to actually
feel as though if that were to play out the
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way that it did this past year, can you hold
brock Party accountable for not having his best weapons and
his best players. They lose obviously Deebo Samuel. They still
have Kittle, which is a which is a big deal,
but can you get it done with with the other
guys that are on this on this roster and I
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feel like that to me says that it's still a
window that's closing, even though you may have a quarterback
that once this window for this particular personnel group may close,
you may start a rebuild. But it sounds as though
they're comfortable with starting a personnel rebuild fellas with Rock
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Party as their quarterback.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So it was reported yesterday from NBC Sports Bay Area
that they are close to finalizing a deal for Fred.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Warner, so they're looking to lock him up long term
as well.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Too, so they could you know, in one off season
Kittle gets taken care of Rock Party, Fred Warner, you
still have your nucleus there. I'm assuming they're not going
to have as bad of luck as they did last
year where all the injuries took place, everything went on.
Yet a guy gets shot in downtown in broad daylight.
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I'm assuming that wouldn't happen again, but who knows. It
just seems like San Francisco, I mean it seems like
I've seen any but that walk there at two thirty
is gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But it's like bags of homeless people.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I don't know, little homeless hopscotch you know, to
start your day. But it does feel like, you know,
anything that could go wrong for that team went wrong
last year, so maybe you know law of averages kicks
in and it's not going to go as poorly this
time around. I don't know that the windows completely closed.
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I would still say I kind of like the rams
chances in that division, and I don't have no.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Idea what to expect from Seattle in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I think I don't have no idea. I feel like
Arizona's building something right. I mean, they improved, they've gotten better.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
When Kyler Mary is on the field with that team,
they're a better team. If he's able to stay on
the field and not leave due to injuries. It's it's
a They're a competitive team, they really are. But the
rest of them, again, I think, obviously I say question
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marks for the Niners, and I agree with you here,
Jonas is that they are they are a question mark.
Seattle is a question mark. And again I highlighted the
forty nine ers being the question mark. I think the
biggest win this offseason for a team was probably Matthew
Stafford getting retained by by the Rams. And it's a
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pretty decent team. They lose Cup, but Pookin Nakua seems
poised to be able to make a run at it
and being the guy. I mean, you have to see
if he can stay healthy as well. He's dealt with
little little injuries as well that have have kept him
off the field. Their defense, I think will be pretty
pretty significant. They'll take a pretty significant jump in the
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right direction this year. I think the Rams are the
team to be in the West. I don't understand why
they have the forty nine ers as as the odds
betting favor to win that division.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
The Niners schedules pretty manageable. Like they've got some real
bad teams on the schedule. You know, no, no offense
to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
No, there you go.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
You know, I'm just saying no offense.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
When do they pay the Bears?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
When do they play that team with the quarterback doesn
want to be there?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
You know that's Week seventeen.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
They've got the Bears that will be featured on Sunday
Night football.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
That'll probably get Cravi spoon. Okay, that'll probably get fly.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So you know, just maybe things are looking on the
up and up. Now all of a sudden, brock Purty
gets paid. By the way, speaking of Kaya Williams, doesn't
this kind of justify their reasoning with you know, we'd
like to go somewhere where we feel like we could
really flourish and shine because Brock Party was taken last
in the draft, ends up in a great situation and
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just made generational wealth. Like this just goes to show
you it's all about development. It's all about where you
land and where you end up. And if you end
up in an awful situation, you don't get to live
to see what this looks like for Brock Party moving forward.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Well you may, you may, but just be different circumstances,
that's all. Ye I don't know about that. I mean,
there's like a jackpot, like a winning ticket.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
San Francisco would be one of the spots La Rams
whoever's going to replace Matt Stafford, that's a big spot
ben Sean mcvay's system. There's a number of places. But yeah, no,
it's when he got drafted last overall. I mean, look,
he's earned it. He's done everything that they've asked him
to do. He's showed up in big moments. He's been tough.
That's part of it too, though, like he had to
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do his part, but he was he was given every
opportunity to succeed because of the organization that he's in
and obviously the way they're able to help players develop players.
It's not just Brock Purty. I mean, look at some
other guys who are in their system. You know, they're
able to maximize their talent ability. You know, if Deebo Samuel,
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you know, hadn't gone to San Francisco, would he have
become the type of player that Kyle Shanahan, you know,
helped him become within a system or he used him
in such a variety of ways to play to a
skill set. You make the same, you know statement about
Kyle Yuschek. There's not a lot of teams that know
how to utilize a fullback in the run game, but
Kyle Shanahan does, Kittle McCaffrey. I mean, you keep going
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on down the line. All these guys are talented enough
and good enough to go to demonstrate, you know, they
their true ability. But if you're not in a system
with a play caller who's creative enough and understands how
to put them in a position to succeed, none that's
going to work. So I mean, credits all, you know,
all those around it. But it's huge, huge for Rock Party.
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I will ask this though, because LeVar said it is
the window. Then done for you? Jonas?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
With San Francisco, No, I would say no, just because
I don't know who you look at in the NFC
and go outside of Philadelphia.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Oh yeah, that's a team you gotta worry about.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Right, So this is why I asked this question. If
your San Francisco hypothetically speak, this is a complete hypothetical, okay,
but let's just say they played in the AFC. If
you stack up and compare Party to the other quarterbacks
in AFC, I kind of wonder, like, is he getting
this deal? Are they doing this? Like does it look
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the same?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
No, it might, Jonas, come on, it only might because
if he's doing what he's doing in San France, if
he were having the same results with a team in
the AFC, you got to try to keep pace.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Let alone win it all.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
You got to try to keep pace. I mean, if
you think about it, Lamar Jackson is trying.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
To keep pace.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
As good as he's been is a phenomenon. As he's been,
he's trying to keep pace. Joe Burrow trying to keep
pace came close closer than Lamar but didn't get it.
Hasn't gotten there. Josh Allen, same exact thing. You're trying
to keep pacing the AFC. That's how competitive the AFC
has been, and need I say, maybe as dominant as
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Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs have been during
this course of time.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
So I don't think.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
It will be a foregone conclusion that he doesn't get
compensated in the same way if he's getting the same
results with a different team in the AFC. You got
to try to keep pace. That doesn't mean you're going
In fact, Purdy has made it further than those names
that I've mentioned outside of Joe Burrow think about it.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, but I would also say the path there is
much more difficult than it is in the NFC to
where if you get to a super Bowl, I'm pretty
played great in that super Bowl, and you know you
talk to Steve Spagnolo said afterwards, he was fantastic, Like, yeah,
he did in that one off situation against Patrick Mahomes,
he was awesome. But if he had off, Yeah, but
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if he had to go through you know, Buffalo or
Baltimore or Cincinnati, who the hell knows if he ends
up there, Like, you know, that's a that's a whole
different story than having to deal with some of the
teams you go.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
But then you got to say, the question itself is hypothetical, right,
if we're making it a hypothetical, I'm assuming all things
giving given in the hypothetical that he's having the same
type of seasons that he's having in San Francisco. That's
what I that's what I would take from it.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I think the difference is like the talent of the
other quarterbacks you're going up against.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's just yeah, it's different. I mean you can, Okay,
I'll ask this, who's the most talented quarterback in that division?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Joe Burrow in the NFC, Kyler Murray is the most talented.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Okay, there you got your name, Stafford, you guys, you
guys could debate all you want. But so, even with
this contract, he's the third best in the division.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
M hmm, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Jaylen Milroe. Damn yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So look, I just think he's he benefits from being
with the Niners. It's no hate, it's no you know,
you don't get to pick where you go. Even though
Caleb Williams tried. It's but he ended up in a
great spot.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
It is it is. I will say this, and I
know what, You're going to slide down in there like nobody.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know, I'm saying, you don't get to pick your spot.
Caleb Williams ended up in a great know what I'm saying.
Rock Party ended up in a great spot. Caleb Williams,
you know, he tried to pick a spot. It didn't work.
But I still think that I'm not certain that Trey
Lance really got a legitimate shot to be the guy.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
There with the Niners.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
He must have been bad, like in practice when they
saw him practice, when they saw him play, they must
have been like, who to f.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Scouted this dude? Instead, we should draft him. He really
didn't get much of a chance. Really, well, he just
got let go from his last team.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah, well, think about this, how many teams could give
up what they gave up to trade up to take
him and then be able to overcome that.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
It's pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
That's what's crazy about is that typically divides an organization.
It tears down an organization and probably makes it difficult
for John Lynch the general manager, and Kyle Shannon to
work together, or whoever's within the scouting department to work together.
It didn't it didn't do anything. It literally had almost
no impact whatsoever outside of that organization not being able
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to draft around brock perty or put more talented players
on that roster.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Which, by the way, Trey Lance is probably somewhere sitting
in the corner or a shower, sitting on the floor,
curled up in a fetal position, upset.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I know, I would be. I would be. You had everything,
you had.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
All the odds, like think about how you've had, You
had all the odds stacked in your favor to be
in the same situation, if not better, because you were
a high draft pick, which means you would have commanded
a higher, a bigger contract, and you didn't get it
done in San Francisco with John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
And as with the Chargers, you know, yeah, well maybe.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
He's a professional backup and they say, that's the best position.
You know, everybody I know that's been a quarterback, they say,
if you got to transition to a position, that's the
best position in sport. It's the backup quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, you become an insurance agent.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, you're basically selling teams insurance. Like, hey, something goes wrong,
I'm here for you.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
I'm here for you. I'm here to.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Make sure you guys get through that game and get
through the next few until you know your car gets repaired,
and then I'll then I'll be back there just kind
of waiting to come back in to save the day again.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Damn, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
I love that for I love that for every quarterback
that's out there backing up the guy that's starting.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
You know, Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
But then there, I mean, there's then there's some who
are like, I don't want to play. Yeah, it's this
team is terrible. I go into this team, I'm gonna
get taken out like they're gonna it's not gonna work
out well for me.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yes, I'm a little scary. How do you get out
of that?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well, I just depend it's on the type of savviness
that that veteran backup as some cases they just see
latch on like a parasite to the starter, and they
hope they can survive through the coaching changes, the general
managers changes. There's those guys out there, some on TV.
There's other guys out there who they h you know,
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they'll just kind of wiggle the way out and find
their way to another organization. They just they figure it
out and they know how, they know how to talk
to to the guys to get somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
So not a bad gig's crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
It's more political with quarterbacks if we try it that,
they'd be like LaVar, get the half out of my
face and get out there and play some football, buddy.
We need some tackles, we need some I n T s,
and we certainly need some sacks from you.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's sound that sounded like a front office executive. Can
you give me someone from the coaching staff that says
that to you?
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Well, well, hoss, why do all coaches have like Southern accents?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Like sounds better when they're a coach and they have
a Southern accent, It just does.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Well, Hoss, I'm gonna need you to get out there.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I'm gonna need you to make me a play. B
A A baby, B A A winning doubt, B A A.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Yes, sir, let's go do it. That's all you need, Yes, sir? Now,
are you wondering what B A A means? Jonas, she
got it? Do you do you know what the acronym
is now? B an athlete, b A A baby, winning doubt,
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B A A.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
B A A house?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yeah, thanks, coach?
Speaker 4 (20:35):
What just what exactly did you say when when the
three receiver goes to the flat and the two receiver
goes down the seam and we're in cover to what
what exactly B A A?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Wait? Wait?
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Wait some coverage there?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Do I just sit in the hook? Do you want
me to carry? Do you want me to carry the seam?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Like?
Speaker 7 (20:54):
What?
Speaker 5 (20:56):
B A A baby?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two in a
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Speaker 2 (21:11):
We've got traditions to a pold here on this show,
and one Wednesday tradition that will not go by by
anytime soon. Is the one and only Petros Papadakis. He
is the co host of The Petroffs and Money Show.
But you can hear on the Blowtorch a five seventy
LA sports Fox college football.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Analyst and our good buddy Pee. What's happening?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I'm not much just here in the morning. I'm like Bretch.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Oh, I like Brady.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
I mean I don't understand, Like if my stuff doesn't work,
I go crazy and like I would desperately find some
other way.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know, what happened?
Speaker 5 (21:51):
Where is he? H?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (21:53):
You're can you walk into you walk us through what
happened here?
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I would prefer not to, but.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Yeah, we were using of course you would certain kind
of uh technology that just wasn't fitting in the City
of the Comics.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Let's say you talking to Petros right now, so it's
going to be very interesting.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Well, not that anybodys unit, not that anybody who's listening
understands what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
But he didn't have his Comrax special.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
It's it's something you buy that turns a phone line
into a radio line.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Yes, yes, and com Rexes are great.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Unfortunately Ethernet, they're very hard to find these days.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Unfortunately, where he was staying was not compatible with a
com rex, so we were using a Lucy app uh,
and the Lucy just was not working where he was staying.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Now today we'll.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Call the hotel in advance to find out if they
were friendly to do radio.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Oh yes, we did, of course.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
Perhaps a separate room with an Ethernet cable.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Oh, that's a Perhaps a studio.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
That's that was all the Fox Fox Radio studio.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
iHeart media studio.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
You know you like what we did in Houston.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
You know, I don't know you know.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
You No, I'm just saying, you know, these things have
happened to.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Me in the past.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Yeah, and very very very very triggering to everybody. Well,
you can't get on the air. It's a great frustration.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
So it's like there's a great Greek saying about impotence
that that applies. It's called now that the now that
the ocean has turned to yogurt. I've lost my spoon.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I don't understand that one.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I like that. Maybe you should think hard.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
How could you not understand that?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
And it out loud before he thought about it, which is.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Back up two steps and rub your temples, all right, So.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Here, Well, I wanted I wanted to ask you about
this because I mean, it's a.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Whole no to an ass thing. And Brady's playing a
slot at the Golden Nugget.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, and look, I don't know if he's doing Double
Dolphins right now or if he found another machine that
works better.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
But I was curious, you know, with Double Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
One of the great slot machines in the history of
a You know, the themes of.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
The slot machines have changed so much. Yeah, you know,
they used to be just like super racial with like
a giant like Fu Manchu looking guy.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
They still have those, yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
They do, but now it's like The Ellen Show, right,
But I don't want to play a slot with the
weird ass Allen Show. What are they gonna do? Put
me in a cult?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
They an NFL slot machine now, too, don't bet it
like an NFL theme one makes sense.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Pitches.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I was wondering because I.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
All, the slot at Antonio Brown shoots at you.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
What.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Bang bang? And if you could get like an empty clip,
you won you know.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
What I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Like pictures like you land on five hundred on the
wheel and Tyreek Hill get you pregnant?
Speaker 7 (24:59):
It's great?
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Oh wow? Is like coins. They represent the babies coming out.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Without accusation.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yes, wheel of Watson, will of Rowe, bounty of but.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
So Petro's I did.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Speaking of the NFL, Jim Harbaugh is a huge Petros
Papadakas fan. I mean, he would you talk about ball
washing like? He's a huge fan. So what is the backstory?
Because you guys, I haven't heard him. I haven't heard
him speak as highly of someone and celebrate someone like
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he has of you, other than justin Herbert a year ago.
What's the backstory there? You know what I said after
talk to Harbaugh?
Speaker 7 (25:58):
What's that got a towel?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Oh wow? No needed it?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Well, he would always need it. I watch a lot
of sack when anybody comes on the show, we show a.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
Lot of It was awesome to hear, though.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
I've had a lot of I've had a lot of
different run ins or interactions over the years with with
coach Harbob, and I'm sure I've talked to you guys
about it. But sometimes I see him and we don't
have the same kind of interaction, you know what I mean.
But every maybe two or three times we talk about
(26:34):
the old times and go down a road like that.
I met him when he was at usd SO, and
then I called a ton of those games when he
was building Stanford up. And uh then when I was
training to Marco Murray for that one season, we even
went to the Big House and called a game out
there before he just took over and had that dominant
(26:56):
couple of seasons. Uh So I know him in that regard.
I watched him build Stanford football up, which was a
modern day football miracle. It really was what he did
at Stanford. How he did it at Stanford is the
stuff that people will talk about for a long time,
not just Stanford types. So I think it reminds him
(27:17):
of a time that maybe was a little more simple,
or a time when he was coming up. Has had
a young family and all that, so maybe that's why.
But yeah, I always love seeing Jim Harbaugh. It's always
interesting to talk to him, and he's I mean, there's
a lot of great characters in football, and there's a
lot of great characters who have had a lot of success,
(27:40):
and he's probably at the top of that list.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Can I just sorry to interrupt, bar, but I just
want to ask this when.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You mentioned the Stanford stuff, what was it about that
turnaround that felt different from maybe others that we've seen or.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Other Well, I mean, if you have familiar with Stanford football,
I mean, they just wouldn't have guys like Richard Sherman
on the team. They just wouldn't be able to get
him in. I'm sure Richard had really good grades and
all that, but maybe he's not the best example, but
to me, he's a shining example. He started out as
(28:15):
a receiver there and they ended up moving him to
corner and ultimately that's kind of Stanford's problem.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean, they can recruit.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
They have the toughest they have the toughest admissions process
of any active FBS college football entity, meaning you really.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Can't get anybody in there.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
They can get and they can get tight ends, they
can get O line, they can get quarterbacks, they can
get linebackers, running backs, fullbacks, they have wide receivers, no problem.
They have trouble getting corners and a little bit like BYU,
they have some trouble with d line and that's kind
of been the long time rub on recruiting there. They
(29:01):
just can't get a lot of these guys in when
I was younger. They had Nigerian guys, a bunch of them,
because those are the type of guys they could get in.
They had Babatunde, Oscehanowo, remember oj Attagway, Levartway.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Saint Louis ram I think loved him as a player.
So Harbaugh came and he had he had some kind
of experience at Stanford. He was raised for part of
his life in Palo Alto. His father had coached there,
and he understood the place. And it is really one
of the most foreign places that plays big time college football.
(29:41):
It makes Duke and Vanderbilt and Northwestern look like Michigan football.
I mean, that's how odd Stanford football is, and it
really is. It's just a it's not for everybody. And
I went to his very first camp at Stanford and
watched them doing rills that you wouldn't do with a
(30:02):
high school football team because you'd get people hurt. And
watching him turn the team into what they called the
whole intellectual brutality thing and make it like like they
were bring back the power play in football, block down.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Kick out, lead, the fullback through kind of thing.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
This was unprecedented and to do it at Stanford and
run USC basically run Pete Carroll out of the Pac
ten at the time by putting fifty five on him
in the coliseum I think in two thousand and nine,
where they.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Didn't even want to.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
I mean, they wouldn't they stop tackling the power play US.
He gave up a Pete Carroll coach defense on the
floor of the coliseum. And the next year Pete Carroll
was gone and that was the what's your deal game?
What's your refferend deal? And you know, why'd you go
for two? Because I couldn't go for three? You know?
It was uh, it was so so Uh. That's that's
(31:05):
kind of the crux of our relationship there, and I
recognized it. I loved Toby Gerhart. I loved Owen Mari Sick. Yeah,
I would love that player. Watched them play in high school.
Owen Mari Sick. They had a fullback who went both ways. Uh,
they had all those great tight ends like fleaner and
you know, go on and on and they had they
(31:27):
were just fun to watch so uh and it was
interesting to watch them do battle with USC and their
time and uh, the chip Kelly organ teams it's a
great time in the in the PAC ten conference. So
I think that our memories go back to that. Sorry
if it's a long.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Answer, No, it's good. No, it's perfect. You know, it's radio.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
You're right.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
You know, I find myself in real life, like somebody
asked me a question, and I start from like Genesis,
you know, in the beginning God, you know, they're like
and then it's like, after five minutes, I realized it's like, look,
in real life, you.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Know, it's my job to fill time. I should really
wrap this up. You know, you gotta paint the picture,
you know, I get it. Yeah, you know, lazy, lazy
people do TV.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
You know, you know people who want to work, they
do radio because you got to paint the whole.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
TV is good because you can get real hot take
going these days.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Oh yeah, you got to say something super quick, like
talk about somebody's girlfriend. Yeah, how important are they talk
about somebody's wife? How?
Speaker 5 (32:29):
What is your wife? What?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
What?
Speaker 5 (32:31):
What raises your wife? You know this talk about it.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
It's just funny that it took so long for people
to bring up the other side of the coin on
talking about racial relations.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
That's why you got a baby with a white woman.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
There you go, you know, there you go.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
There's always a way to have a comeback in these
types of medium forms.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
If you got a white bastard, run.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
God.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
If I die, then my child will be a bastard,
which is not accurate by Scarface and the Ghetto Boys
song my mind. He says, if I die, then my
child will be a bastard. And that's not the case.
If your child was born out of wedlock, then he's
a bastard, whether you're alive or not. But I don't
(33:19):
believe the star of it. Yeah, and I do not
believe that Scarface has any bastards looking at it. Look
from the ghetto.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I just know that he never did any rhymes that
had another rapper come out and have to say I
did some digging and saw that. Well that's that's what
you have going on. But hey, to each his own.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
I don't see you sitting alone in your four cornered
room staring at candles. What is it?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, my mind's playing tricks on me.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
You know, my favorite mind is playing tricks on me.
Is the guy? The guy I don't think he made
it as long in the band. The Ghetto Boys got
the second verse guy, the guy that goes I'm mainly funny.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I d.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Everybody know. It's like, I'm a stupid web star.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
I thought he had Kane, but it was Gold and
the floor.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
But something right, He's stupid, dude.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Do you uh, who do you think out of the
l A team since we were you know, so heavy
on horrball? Which McVeigh or harball? Which one has the
better season this year? To Rams or or the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
That's a great question, you know.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Uh, the Chargers had such a great turnaround and then
they they performed in the playoffs kind of like they
have the previous years, which was shocking, I think to
people who support them. Uh, I love Justin Herbert and
I want to see him thrive. I think he's a
great kid and a really impressive player. And I saw
(35:00):
in college and he's one of those guys who are like, yeah,
I could see that guy being really good in the NFL.
He's six six and he can move and he throws
the ball beautifully. He's got a great attitude. So it's
good to know that, you know, you feel right about
a quarterback. Every once in a while, they actually end up.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Being pretty good.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Mcveigh's great. You know, it's hard. He's really annoying to me.
Listening to him talk is like going to Tony Robbins seminar.
But he's a great coach. He understands offense, he's a
great play caller. At that level, you can have a
guy who's calling plays as the head coach and still
(35:40):
actually win championships. I don't think it's ever happened in
college football, maybe not since Steve Spurrier. But you got
McVeigh calling his own plays, you got Andy Reid calling
his own plays, and they're the best of the best.
He's right up there with those guys and a very
exciting coach. Uh his hair is all gelled up. It's annoying.
(36:03):
Listening to him talk is annoying, but you cannot argue
with what they've done. Who has a better season? Gosh,
I hope it's the Chargers, just because I'm associated with him,
and my radio partner gets so mad if they lose that.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Uh oh, does Matt take it to heart when they lose?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I believe he takes it a little personal.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
You know, when you're with the team and you're on
the plane, you know you want him to win because
everybody's sad if they're you know what I'm saying, So
then you become emotionally involved. I signed everybody, not everybody,
you know me, I don't care.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
It'd be a lot of loud ass laughers on losing
plane sometimes, and then there's that.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
One guy that stands up and goes, why the laughing.
We had some set tripping on some plays if they
were too if the flight was too long, we'd have
some guys get punched in the head.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Every once in a while, the player.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Is that John rob.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Somebody can just go too far.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Joan has touched on the Notre Dame USC thing.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, it's it's it's I brought up the idea of
like that transfer portal brouh. It's like it's up there
for USC, like people are getting the hell out of Dodge.
Seemingly it looks like at USC, well.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Let's let's talk on man, let's discuss at LeVar. I mean,
what's the but like, you're a Penn State guy, you're
a Penn State legend, obviously have great feelings about Penn State,
and you're wow, you know that your son's playing there.
I mean, you're one of the greatest defenders that ever
put on that uniform. What you're saying a lot because
there's a lot of people that have worn that uniform.
So what is the buzz about Penn State this this
(37:52):
off season? Uh, it's that that quarterback's coming.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Back, right, Yeah, and the running backs are coming back.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
And they're gonna come Pete again for a Big Ten.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Title, right and possibly national Right?
Speaker 7 (38:04):
So what is the buzz?
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (38:07):
And if you can, if you're going to win the
Big Ten title, obviously you're going to be involved in
that too.
Speaker 9 (38:13):
What is the buzz about my alma mater this offse
and they're just in the world.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Oh that Uh, they don't want to play It seems
like they don't want to play Notre Dame, Right.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
That's the conversation. The buzz is that, like the positive buzz,
because because we don't want to play Notre Dame or
posturing in.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That way is not positive in my opinion.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
The positive buzz is that they have hired a GM
who is securing verbals for a freshman class.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
In twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Oka.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
That is the but there's not No one is talking
about the quarterback they have Mayava because they I don't
know why they would. Nobody's talking about who's coming in
or who's coming out for twenty twenty five. USC's buzz
this offseason is exactly what you said. We're trying to
wriggle out a Notre Dame and hey, look at this
(39:10):
recruiting class that may or may not show up in
twenty twenty six. That is disgusting and sad. I don't
care what Colin Cowherd, who went to Eastern Washington thinks
about what USC should do because he went to a
couple rich guy, wealthy USC parties when he lived in
Manhattan Beach and now lives in Chicago. I don't need
(39:34):
anybody from outside the USC world, grounded in the USC
traditions to tell me what USC should or shouldn't be doing.
I don't want to hear about how the backyard Brawl
isn't played anymore, or Bedlam or Texas Texas A and
M went away, or Oklahoma Nebraska. USC Notre Dame has
(39:54):
been played for one hundred plus years. The only time
they ever took off was World War Two. It has
nothing to do with conference realignment, which is why that's
not an argument if USSE is too soft that a
new Big Ten schedule makes it so they can't play
Notre Dame, then maybe they should leave the Big Ten
(40:16):
for God's sakes. And here's another question or statement from me.
If you can't beat Maryland or Minnesota, the hell are
you worried about who's on your schedule?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Anyway?
Speaker 7 (40:30):
You ain't competing for a national championship. You're not competing
for a Big Ten championship. And if you're scared a
Notre Dame, you can't compete for a national championship either.
None of these things make any sense. And if it's
Lincoln Riley who's behind it, and it seems like it,
the only reason he's still there is because of his
(40:52):
huge buyout. Here's a coach that's not embraced us these
traditions at all, has been beyond dis ap pointing ever
since his first year. And let's not forget him. Their
first year they lost the Cotton Bowl to Tulane with
Caleb Williams at quarterback healthy, So what are we looking at.
We're looking at a guy who doesn't want to be
(41:12):
an sc or at least doesn't want to be an
sc the way us he is, who's not doing well
and this guy gets to say whether or not or
has an influence on whether or not US he plays
this giant hard schedule or not, or against Notre Dame
that they've done for one hundred years. You have no
say in it. Who cares what Lincoln Riley says. If
(41:33):
it wasn't for his buyout, he'd be gone. He should
be gone anyway. So that's an interesting part of it.
But ultimately I do think US he's just posturing. I
think they'll sign for twenty twenty six. They'll wait to
see what the college Football playoff expansion is. But if
you're USC, wouldn't you rather have Notre Dame on your
(41:54):
resume as opposed to Georgia Southern or something.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
So at the end of the.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Year, if you lose, you're going. It's a good you know,
it's right. It's just for business.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
It's the most gets made thing I've ever heard in
my life. And no one in like when USC lost
like thirteen straight years or didn't win for thirteen straight
years when I was a kid, it was very frustrating,
but nobody sat there and said, well, we shouldn't play anymore,
we can't beat these guys, or when Pete Carroll was dominating.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
Imagine in those days.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
We still got to do Ohio State still got to
do Michigan. Be right, that's I don't run away from it. Well,
that's what you try to figure it out. That's who
you are, that's what you know. I mean, you're USC football.
You're supposed to be a blue blood. You don't remain
a blue blood by saying, well, we don't want to
play Notre Dame anymore, we got to play Rutgers.
Speaker 7 (42:42):
Shut your effing mouth, like I just I cannot, I
cannot believe it, but I do think, uh, you know,
when there's more playoff expansion, they'll probably sign a longer deal.
But if they missed one year, it's a travesty. And
I don't want to hear Colin cow and tell me
about what modern college football is like and how you
(43:03):
can go buy a high school player and it's not
like it used to be. That has nothing to do
with USC playing Notre Dame. And if you should never
even talk about USC football, if you don't understand what
the rivalry is and why it should remain.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Like it, just at some point, if you don't have
at least a little tradition, then what is it Like it's.
Speaker 7 (43:22):
Basically, yeah, why let's just change the colors?
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Like, look, I like Mike Gundy, but Mike gundy stance on, well,
you know, we're not playing Bedlam anymore because of them.
It's like, no, you probably could have figured out a
way to make that still work.
Speaker 6 (43:34):
But that's it feels like it was petty.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And it just feels like if you start eliminating the traditions,
like I'm willing to acknowledge, Hey, things have changed. There's
an expanded playoff, the transfer portal, nil, all that start.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
But if you, guys, if you leave a conference and
then okay, there's a conversation to be had. But USC
and Notre Dame have never been in the same conference.
That's what it's about. So none of these modern college
football stumbling blocks exist. They can play every year. That's
why Notre Dame. Notre Dame wants to play every year.
(44:07):
They should play every year. They've played every year other
than World War Two. This ain't I know, the transfer
portal and nil, and we're in a crazy chaotic time
in college football, but I don't think it compares to
World War Two. We got to keep playing.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, true, it's odd, but uh, Petros, we appreciate it
as always.
Speaker 7 (44:27):
It's not odd, it's soft and it's bitch man.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Damn take that share, right, like did.
Speaker 7 (44:35):
USC when they were when they were competing for a title,
where you would lose one game in the BCS era
and it would be all over where they like, ah, gosh,
you know, we're so good. We don't want to play
Notre Dame anymore because it might hurt us. Shut up, Like,
if you don't want to play Notre Dame, go play
in Fresno, Like, shut up anyway, Go to Hawaii.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
Yeah, go to Hawaii, all right?
Speaker 7 (45:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (45:00):
Playing for why? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (45:04):
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Speaker 6 (45:15):
Thank you, we'll do it again next week.
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Speaker 7 (45:56):
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Speaker 6 (46:03):
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Speaker 5 (46:06):
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Speaker 4 (46:07):
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