July 5, 2025 • 59 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox fill-in for The Herd and the Lakers bring in Deandre Ayton, but is it enough to keep LeBron in LA? The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks Lauren Sanchez's roster, Clayton Kershaw going after 3,000 K's, Michael Douglas in Romancing the Stone and more! Everything is on the table in the Browns QB room. And the guys also celebrate the 4th of July!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple, Joe
with LaVar arrings and rating win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It is the Herd Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for Colin. You can listen to this show
as always on the iHeartRadio app and you can find
us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country as
we take you all the way up until noon Eastern
time or excuse me, at three o'clock Eastern time noon
(00:34):
Pacific here on FSR. So we open up the show
talking about the feel good moment in Los Angeles with
Clayton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand and then the reality
of waking up and realizing you're also probably a Laker fan,
which sucks, but again, you know, is what it is.
That being said, we now turn over to somebody else
(00:55):
in the world of football who knows a thing or
two about dysfunction. That would be none other than Nebraska
head coach Matt Ruhle, your former teammate at at Penn State.
Lebar you guys are amen, Yeah, you guys are real
nice to him.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
In practice. I'm sure we had a good time with Matt.
Matt was a special teams guy. He was a special
situations person. Yeah, it's super super intelligent football player. Again,
I credit him with a lot of things that I
learned as a freshman. How you know, I knew how
to study film to a certain degree. I knew how
(01:29):
to take notes to a certain degree. In high school,
I had a pretty good, good program I had came from.
But when I got to college, I realized very quickly
how much of the educational part of football was involved
in terms of the studying, being able to know what
to look for, you know, being able to break down
(01:49):
what it is that the offense is doing and how
you need to apply that to you and your information
and your notes. Matt, Matt Ruhle did an excellent job
of sitting with me and us learning that. You know,
my freshman year there was his last year there, but
it turns out it translated into him being a really,
really fine football coach as well through through the years.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So he was talking with Greg McElroy on the Always
College Football podcast and he says that the experience in
the NFL probably makes him more ready for what the
new experience of college football is like.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I think the biggest certain thing you learn when you're
in the NFL is really evaluation, you know, like the
four collegeable So yeah, I think he's the player's offer
was taken.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You get the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's all they're all good players, you know, it's just
a what's the financial value were put on this person
and put on this position? And you're in the NFL
a good free agency and the NBC teams walking away
from the lead players because of their contract situation.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So that was Matt Rule talking about the contractual similarities
now all of a sudden between the NFL and college football,
and it is it does I do wonder if him
having that time there in the league makes him more
ready for it from that standpoint to where it's now
not just your typical well do you want to go recruiting?
(03:14):
Now the money aspect being brought into it maybe makes
those conversations and how he evaluates players and what they
can and can't do, Maybe it makes that a little
bit more I guess a little bit more accustomed to him,
just based on that time he had in Carolina in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean, I would assume that that would be the
reason why Bill Belichick went to North Carolina. Is that
we are stepping into a brave new world of what
the NFL represents. I mean, excuse me, what college football represents.
And you do have to figure out what the value
is on the position, you know, on the skill level,
(03:51):
on the influence. There are a lot of elements that
are now in play. I would say it's it's probably
a little bit more complex and a little bit more
complicated than just looking at it from the scope of
what happens in the NFL. Other than you having to
figure out how much to pay and evaluating based off
of what the pay would be versus evaluating if I
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want to give this guy a scholarship, if we want
him to play on the field as a starter in
one of the offensive or defensive groups versus special teams.
It's just very different. I think the reason why it
would be more complex, Jonas is from the standpoint of
the transfer portal is what really to me makes it
(04:36):
very interesting. We just had the conversation too long ago,
not too long ago, about the suing. Now we have
one university sue another university based upon taking what is
in Miami took a player from Wisconsin. Wisconsin, Okay, they
felt like the player owed them whatever it is he
(05:00):
owed them based off of the contract that he signed.
So until elements like that get cleared up, where the
legalities of what's taking place at the college level and
how that works and who you're you know, I guess
basically who your rights belong to. Now, yes, you do
have an advantage over most likely college coaches because they
(05:23):
don't understand most likely you know, salary caps and free
agency and how that all works. But there's still a
learning curve that's there because of the lack of structure
and the lack of established rules on what the engagements are.
What's a do, what's a don't? You know, what's breaking
(05:45):
the rule, what isn't. There is a lot of gray
area that still exists at the college level, and I
think that it makes it very difficult for coaches and
administrators like athletic directors. You know, you're talking about twenty
million dollars I believe that they get yearly. But that's
for all sports. It's not just for one sport. So
now you got to figure out a salary cap, but
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you got to figure out what that salary cap represents
for all of your sports. I think Pence has like
something like eight hundred plus student athletes in their school.
So there's a lot that has to be figured out.
But now you start to break it down by sport,
and obviously you're hiring gms, you're hiring head of staffs
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that are now you're now structuring the football programs more
like proteins. And I would say that's probably where Matt
Rule is probably talking about, outside of just evaluation, having
maybe somewhat of an advantage in terms of how he
runs its team.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And I would also say, based on his time in
the NFL with Carolina, at least he's got a pretty
good example of how not to do things because that
place was a complete clown show. And what he went
through at Carolina or where he David Tepper brings him in,
there was some interest from the Giants. Matt Ruhle gets
a seven year deal from the Panthers. Then all of
(07:06):
a sudden, all the conversations, the whispers start to start
up that David Tepper is getting involved, he's meddling into
things he's want to And Matt Rule even said before
the season before he was fired, Listen, I signed a
seven year deal. I was told by David Tepp basically
put David Tepper on blasts like, hey, I was told
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by the owner that I'm going to be given a
significant amount of time to get this thing sorted out.
I'm working with that understanding going into all this, and then,
you know, however long it was later than he was gone.
I wonder if Matt Ruhle goes back to college with
a better understanding of the salary cap, the structure, but
also a better understanding of whatever I do. I don't
(07:50):
want it to turn into what I came from in
the NFL, like he's got he's got to be. I
would imagine he draws from that experience of exhibit A,
how things could go sideways if you let it get
out of control above you.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, you know what's interesting point to that is is
that when it's the pros, people have no problem doing
coverage and scrutinizing the dysfunction of ownership or of the
front office. It almost seems as though that's what's going
to eventually take shape and take hold at the college level.
(08:26):
Probably you've never really heard like all the dysfunction of
the president of the university, ad of the university, or
all those different things. So you'd have to assume, and
this brave new world of nil and how things are
being handled at the college level, that if you're dealing
with a dysfunctional organization university front office, ads, administrators, whatever
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it may be, if you're dealing with that type of dysfunction,
I wonder will that become prevalent and will that create
more pressure on the universities and how they're not only
hiring their athletic directors, but ultimately how they're hiring the
presidents and the people that administratively are running the school.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's also it's almost like now that money's involved, uh, oh,
open season on everybody. Oh like that now now that
we know that people are getting paid, players admitted, Now
that we know all of that, everybody's going to be
held to the same standard that you've seen from a
professional level.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You could play that this is an academic institution game.
All you want, you're gonna find your academic institution as
out on the street looking for a job. You got
to figure it out because that is that has been
the cash cow for these universities for many, many moons.
And if you mess that up now because you don't
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you know, it's always been really easy to minimize. Even
like when I play for Joe Paterno, Joe minimized athletics.
He minimized athletes because it was more about being a student.
It was more about education. It's like, who cares. We
play the game, we win the game, we lose the game.
(10:08):
But they got class on Monday.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They got to turn in their their their papers.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
They gotta get good grades. Like it was always about academics.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
You use.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Made a mistake. Okay, hey, hey, I'll.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Put you on the bus that I brought your heir on.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Shout It matter anyway. But but here's my point. The
point is is that you cannot hide behind the moniker
of this is a place in an institution of higher
learning and education. You can't have behind it. You certainly
have to have it. The prestige of going to a
(10:49):
fine college and the institution of learning higher learning is
very attractive. But make no mistake about it, you will
not be any in any position as a head of school,
president of the school board of trustees, whatever it is.
You are not in a place where you can minimize
athletics and try to suppress what athletics represents to what
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the the earning capacity of what it represents to the
university and in some cases to the state. You can't
minimize it now because it is now being turned into
a very very pro like approach, and now people are
going to be in a very very quick rush, a
(11:35):
quick movement to try to figure out what the solutions are,
what are what are even the positions the appointment of
new jobs that have to be created in order to
be able to handle this. You're going to have to
have capologists. You're gonna have to have gms, You're gonna
have to You're gonna have to have scouts, like and
they already have scouts.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Michael Lombardi's Michael Lombardi's, Belichick's GM College.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
There's a lot, There's a lot. There is a lot here,
and hearing what Matt Ruhle has to say, it's just
the tip of the iceberg in terms of all of
the conversations that are going to continue to come up
and become like, what what are the main topics of
conversations as it applies to this new world of what
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sports represent at the college level.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Do you mean to tell me as we sit here
right now on the third of July twenty twenty five,
that the term student athlete no longer means the same thing.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
No, it doesn't. It doesn't because you don't have to
everybody that understands going to college and playing the game
that was a that was a politically correct way of
expressing what you were as a scholarship player. You had
to say it, I am a student athlete. And while
(12:59):
it is still not a pay for play model in college,
it is still not pay for play. The one term
that they have to get used to, and it's going
to have to be embraced, and it's going to lead
to a whole lot of different things, organizing unions and
having union reps and maybe it leads to collective bargaining
(13:22):
agreements and all kinds of stuff like that. Is employee
is employee, And that's what's going to be interesting. How
quickly does the college level get to the place where
it is comfortable saying that these are employees, Meaning if
(13:43):
they are employees, you're talking about retirement, you're talking about insurance,
you're taking all the things that come along with being
an employee. They are going to have to figure for
and they're going to have to have the resources and
the funds to put towards those things. Once it becomes
a real thing that college athletes are not student athletes
(14:08):
just student athletes. They are students, They are athletes, and
they are employees. Once you get those three put together
and the understanding of.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
That is really realized, realized to speak for a living,
Once the realization of that comes to fruition, there is.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Going to be so many people. Lawyers, you know, financial planners,
you name it. There's going to be so there's even
private private family offices, investors, major investors. They are now
looking at the college space the same way that they
are looking at the pro space. There are people that
are actually trying to purchase the rights of the school.
(14:52):
It's outside of the leer fields and the play flies
and stuff like that. There are actually private equity groups
that are trying to purchase schools. In other words, what
it is that the sports represents. They're trying to purchase
the rights to that so that they can use that
as a place to place their money. This is a
(15:12):
very deep rabbit hole that has been created, and I
don't see the bottom of it. I don't see the
bottom of it just yet. It's still just black. It's
just darkness. You don't see the bottom, like, oh, there's
the floor of this nil there's the floor of this
new new college college world. You don't see it yet.
There's still so much more to be defined. I mean,
(15:34):
what does that look like for liability? You know what
type of lawsuits are going to come from? You know
the athletes that are playing, like, what type of rights
do they have? How does this impact Title nine? Like
with women's involvement and them having fair opportunity to be
treated equally? How do all of these things happen? Do
you stay with the NCAAA. How strong does the NCAAA stay.
(15:56):
There are a lot of different conversations, a lot of
different lanes of different roads where all of these things
have to be discussed and have to be flushed out
and established, and it isn't going to be anytime soon,
and these athletes are tasked with trying to navigate it
as athletes to a new space, and so are the coaches,
and so are the administrators of these schools.
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(17:27):
what Pete?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Is this the other Jello? Oh that's one.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
There's only one Jello.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
There's only one Jello. Hey, but I'll tell you what
there isn't just one of I was today years old
when I realized, who, Jeff Bezo's just just married.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Oh right man?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, can you give me because you you're a LA guy,
can you give me some color on this? Bro?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Because it is sports related? Oh yeah, marriage is sports relate.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Make sure to add some color on it.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
There to be a comed there used to be a
comedian in uh in Gotham City who had a wife
and I think a pregnant wife or something, and was
struggling and went into a life of crime and fell
into a vat of chemicals. And that comedian came out
with green hair and and a weird white face. And
(18:21):
now they're known as the Joker. The Joker, and she
married Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Uh, thank you Jonas.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
Uh she uh she worked Miss and discriminate though well,
Miss sin Chez worked at Channel eleven, which is which
one is that kt TV out here, which is the
Fox affiliate.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
So uh, she.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Worked at the Fox affiliate which is not where all
the Fox people like me work, uh, which is down
the street, which is the Fox lot, the movie lot
which they actually sold along a few years ago to
ESPN and a bunch of other people. They don't own
it anymore, but they rent their sports building on the
(19:12):
Fox lot, So if that makes any sense, the twentieth
century Fox Lot is really no longer owned by Fox.
But that's where we all work. KTTV is on Bundy,
which everybody knows from the OJ trial, a little ways
over in Brentwood, West LA. And that's where Fox eleven is.
(19:35):
She Sanchez worked there as a news lady, and I
believe that I don't know, I just like to or Lopez.
She she she worked there at KTTV, and she was married,
even though it's not listed. She was married to a
(19:57):
famous old KTTV's foot soldier, reporter and really good play
by play guy who was a USC played by play
guy for SC basketball and he was an Angels play
by play guy. And he passed away, uh kind of suddenly,
but he was. She was married to Rory Marcus for
a little while.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Was she really uh huh?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
And then she uh yeah, Bryan Thompson, Yeah, she was
married to him. It was like the Kim, that black
dude that Kim Kardashian was married to. First that everybody, yeah, yeah,
everybody acts like ray J was the first dude to
date her. But uh so after that, she dated Anthony Miller,
(20:40):
the wide receiver from the Chargers and Denver, Yes, and
then and then she dated Tony Gonzalez and had a
baby with him, and then she dated like Derek Fisher. Yeah,
and I mean she'd been around uh and uh and
(21:00):
then Bezos snatched her up. But she doesn't look the
same that she as she used to, and neither does he.
You know, he looks like this way different. He looks
like a sperm that lifted weights. So is it like
a swall little sperm.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Is it fair to say that she she's got power
to all fields? Basically looking at her resume here, well, I.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Would, I mean to me, it still seems like she's
she's one tool.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Player because Rory Marcus looks different than Anthony.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Yeah, well Rory would be Yeah, that was you know,
the black guy that Kardashian. But uh, let's see if
I got any wrong. She got Tony Gonzalez, that was
her two thousand, had Anthony Miller, Then she was with
Derek Fisher.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, and uh, Henry Simmons, I feel like Simmons, whoever
they been looking super good looking. Due played like a
police officer on on television.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
And well then she married another random white Patrick White.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Sound then she yeah, she went back to the other side,
and then she came back. You know, well she stays, yeah,
you're right. She she she hits Hoppo, So yeah, she's
not Yeah, she's not.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Taco Yeah, real slock hit.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And she don't go and she don't stay a certain
like skin color either, Like she goes light skinned, dark
skinning brown.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You know what, bring it, everybody up top.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I mean, she's United Nations. This is what the American dream,
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I'm happy for her. Well, she's got a lot of.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Friends who are like people at Fox, like the kind
of people the kind of person that sued Cowhard or.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Who was who did that Lady Sue and Sharp.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of those type of people were
like people that work at Fox wardrobe people stuff like that.
And then you know Carrissa is very close with them,
who does a lot of work with Amazon. So it
was there was there was some people that I knew
there there were. If I was there, there would have
been people to say it with.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Can I ask you a question of follow up to this.
What is it? What is it with La people sharing
one another? Like I've never like maybe I haven't liked Hell.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I don't know. I'm from here. Don't nobody cheer for me?
They don't share you. They don't cheer me, show me
or share me or cheer me.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, share not chair not cheer leading.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Sharing.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Sharing is caring, Like a lot of people share each
other's people out here, Like, I get it. It's a
weird culture of that in La I have.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Yeah, I used to know Maoi pretty well, just from
a home there that my in laws owned, so we
would stay, you know, out of the hotel areas and stuff,
and you end up talking to people and you get
to know people that live there, and they don't they
talk about women there, that there's just not that many
women and that there's.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Not really that many people on the island.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
And I always think of a Hawaiian island, especially Maui,
as like a movie set. And sadly it was very
very prevalent when they had the disastrous fire there in Lahina.
But I always think of those places as kind of
a movie set, like it's beautiful, there's all these buildings
(24:19):
that it seems like there's all this stuff, these stores,
these restaurants, but there really are no resources, and if
you push on it, it like falls over.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It's it's false, it's not real.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
And you learn that when something bad happens, like an
individual disaster where somebody gets hurt catastrophically, and if you
can't survive a metavac to Honolulu, you're gonna die. This
is a long way to answer your question, but I
think it's prevalence.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's all right what people feel the relevance of this.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
What people say in Maui is you don't really get
your a relationship with a girl.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
You get your.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
Turn because you know, there's really not that many people there.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
You know. It's kind of like you know that old joke,
it's your night in the barrel.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And so it's about eligible date.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
I don't I think lascause there are a ton of
people in La Yeah, there are people here, there are,
but there's only a certain amount of people that think
that they're as cool as these idiot marginal TV stars
that you will share.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And God forbid, and God forbid one of those women
who gets meta backed, you know, then oh.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Yeah, they're never gonna survive the Medovac to Honolulu. But
they're just that it's a little tiny pond and they
just jumped from lily Pad to lily Pad without really
going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Who's in the pond? Is it like they know where
to go? Like, like, how do you like? This is
an impressive.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
There's a sign outside of the pond and it says
c AA.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I mean that's seriously, you know it's it's.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
They meet through agencies.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, it's agency bs.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
It's people who have you been to these parties that
you guys go to the Sleeper Bowl?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yeah, but you guys go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Right, Yeah. I don't go to the parties.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
But you see all the TV people walking around the
space and they all act like they are seriously like
at the at the GA seven conference, like they are
signing global law into I mean, they really do act
(26:34):
like they're doing something important.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And they only stay in their own space too, by
the way, like you'll see them moving around, but they
only acknowledge one another.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Well, yeah, it's like being at those parties whenever. And
this happens to be at the Fox Seminar every year,
and I've been going to the Fox Seminar probably longer
than anybody else that's worked there, because I've worked there
for so long, but I mean other than Howie Long
and Terry Bradshaw people like that. But everybody that you
talk to, it feels like, at least me, they're always
(27:04):
looking over your shoulder for somebody cooler to show up,
you know, And that's that's kind of like the vibe
of these people. But not everybody's happy with the bezosweating.
I mean, there was massive protests, I don't know if massive,
but noticeable, noticeable protest in Venice where people were unhappy.
They don't love their tourists there, but I don't really
(27:26):
know what they have if they don't have tourists, just
a bunch of stinking brackish water, and uh, it grows
and then I mean, can you imagine it's literally it's thousands, Yeah,
it's thousands and thousands of years of rotting city on
(27:47):
disgusting water. But anyway, the people, the people in Venice
weren't happy. Charlis Throne took a shot at them from
the Universal Lot at some party, and Katie Kurrk called
it tacky, and so did others like Bethany Frankel and
people that weren't invited.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Does she count?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I'm sorry, does who does count?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Franklo?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I mean, I'm just saying there's some pushbacks.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Skinnybadka now Petros, I am wondering, Kitty Girl, Margarita Arguer?
Will you be tonight is a big night for the
Why what did I miss? Clayton Kershaw will go three
thousand strikeout against the awful White Sox leader Dodger Stadium.
Will you be live on location for that event later on?
Speaker 5 (28:34):
No?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
No, we inquired about being there and then we're not
going to be there, but.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Usually we are there for events like this.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
But either way, Yeah, the Kershaw thing is happening tonight.
He's had a long career.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Kershaw. Excuse me, hold on.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Bless you? Sorry, bless you? No worries? Do you take
do you take martial arts class?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
You?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yea?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Y yogi? Yogi? You're a dishonor k We were talking
about Kershaw.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Kershaw reminds me a little bit of Kobe in town,
you know, And I don't think people can really grasp
I mean, you could look at the numbers and all that,
and the playoffs were.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
A whole different rigamarole.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
But Kershaw has had a heck of a career and
he was so dominant when he was in his prime
as a pitcher. The Dodgers took a trip to Australia.
Remember when they played in Australia. We all remembered Korea
and Japan, but like seven, eight, nine years ago, they
played in Australia and to start out the season, and
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the long flight and the flight home ruined Kershaw's back
to where he needed to have back surgery. And he's
never had elbow surgery. Imagine that. I mean, this guy's
been pitched for twenty years. Most guys by the time
they're twenty years old have to Tommy Johns now a
major league pitchers. This guy has never had one. But
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he did end up having back surgery. But he reminds
me a little bit of Kobe in that he was
so dominant in his.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Time and.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Literally not very friendly with the LA media and just
you know, just not a cup cuddly warm guy. And
you got the the and I don't blame him, but
you know, he's from Texas and you get got the
idea that he was just didn't want to be here,
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you know, like Los Angeles was not a great fit
for him. But of course it's been a dream career
and he's had the whole thing here and him and
his wife Allen have learned to adapt to the area
during the season and all that. But it does remind
me of Kobe because like the last three or four years,
as his career has just sort of unmercifully come to
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an end, and he keeps going and he's not throwing
ninety five ninety six anymore. He's throwing eighty nine and
he's still striking people out and he's still got a
lot of savvy up there. He's the oldest looking thirty
seven year old or whatever in the history of the world.
I mean, he looks like Greg Oden or DeAndre Ayton there.
He's got the old man look, deep crevices in his face.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, the sweat marks on his hat.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
Yeah, he's wearing it and he and now he's like
all friendly and doing interviews and he's everybody's bff. And
it's like, to me, it's a little bit like Kobe.
It's like, remember how you act in the last sixteen years,
you know, and all of a sudden, now that you're
on your way out, it's like, hey, I love y'all.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It's like, no, you don't.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
But anyway, he's had a hell of a career and
he's had a terrible, terrible time of it in the playoffs. Also,
there's been a lot of ups and downs, and he
is he is an eye and he would have gotten
it looked like he would have gotten into his three
thousand strikeout and uh wherever they were, Colorado, but they
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pulled him and when he had three left with only uh,
not that many pitches, so they could set the stage
for what otherwise might not be a very well attended
game tonight in uh at Dodger Stadium against the White Sox.
So there'll be a coronation tonight unless he just goes
out there and gets his boob scooped out.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
But that's probably I don't think that. I mean, the
White Sox aren't very good. Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Now you mentioned the plane ride. Is that is that
the story that everyone's going with that the plane ride
from Australia hurt his back? Yes, that's a real How.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Are you saying that he was eaten by a dingo?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So I'm just like, how do you like sitting on
a plane. It's not like they're taking.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
The plane ride. I mean the guid and was never hurt.
He never had any issues.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
And the long plane ride he slept weird and his
back got weird and then he probably pushed it on
the bad back and made it worse or something.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
I don't know, like it's not my back. I got
enough problem.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Were they taking the romancing the Stone plane? Like what
are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Like that romancing the Stone?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
It feels like they leave me alone, the travel in
luxury and he wouldn't have to worry about back pain.
I've never flown to Australia, so I don't know exactly.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
You should book your favorite guy, David Vasse Dodger reporter,
because he is the guy behind the Kershaw's back was
ruined on the Australian plane.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Hey, Kershaw's the reason David Massey attacks me on the air. Okay,
because David Massay has got trauma from back then and
he takes it out on me.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
So you know what, You're right.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
He has a lot of trauma for being bullied by
baseball players over the years.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I don't know what's going on. Are we almost are
we wrapping up the the era of being nailed by
the King Petros is it? Is it winding down here
with Lebron or what's.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Romancing the Stone?
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Romancing the Stone?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Was that a how did they slip that into the
culture and nobody really took a good look at it.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
But romance in the Stone?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
What is the stone that's being romance?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
It's like a jewel that they were all at.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Oh, of course it is. And then there was a
who's the main character in that movie?
Speaker 8 (34:15):
Michael Douglas, Kathleen Turner and Danny DeVito.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Danny DeVito, no further than that first name. I already
know what Romancing the Stone is when that first guy
is in the movie.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
That a reference to cocaine.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
No, Michael Douglas, he's horned up.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
I don't think there's any better like angry pissed off
cocaine a hole give it up main character than Michael Douglas.
Just one angry on cocaine all pro not liked, you know,
just in black.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Rain running around Japan getting pissed.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Off taking it.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
The sequel to Jewel of the Nile was or was
Romancing the Stone was Jewel of the remember that, And
the song was by Billy Ocean Romance in the Stone.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
That never leave me alone taking it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
You get that look in this, You get that facial
expression that looking in I mean, look.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
We all remember, we all remember.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
The scene in Basic Instinct where he ripped off poor
Jeanie triple horns g string taking it.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
But uh, anyway.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Lebron James, all right, okay, there we go back to
the point.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I think what happened.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Uh, And I'm not the only one to say this.
My radio partners the first one to mention it, and
it made sense to me. Was it just feels like
they offer the Lebron people tried to get ahead of
the new ownership and get a new deal and get
some more years on his deal, and they told him no.
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So then Lebron had to release that really weird statement
through shams to uh to the what wasn't about the
Oh just yeah, the Lakers know that this is important
and we've got to keep an eye on the right.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
It's an amazing thing.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Like basically, Lebron saying I have my contract is crippling
to any franchise.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Uh, and no one will take it.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
So I'm going to use this contract to cripple you,
but I'm also going to hold you accountable for your
bad roster that exists because of my bad contract, So
it it could be winding down. But I do think
we're going to have another year of struggling with the King.
But I don't think that the uh.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I don't think that he is the Lakers priority anymore.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
And I think that was very very obvious to everybody
when he was.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
When Luka donct showed up.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
So when that trade happened, I think it was pretty
obvious to everybody that the Lakers are are are a
Luca team and no longer a Lebron team. So everything
else that you hear out of the Lebron people are
like the death spasms of his relevance in the city,
which I hope is ending.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
So is did It's just still moving.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a death rattle.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
But I don't think uh, I don't think they can
get rid of them, right, I mean without getting in
all the NBA loophole bs that everybody sits there.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
And what does that mean for Brownie?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
That's a great question, you know, what does it mean
for Brownie? You know?
Speaker 8 (37:38):
And what does it mean? Oh, Eddie Grant sings Romance
in the Stone. I'm sorry, guys, all right, corrections and retractions.
Do you guys know who Eddie Grant is? Electric Avenue?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I do I know who that we're going a.
Speaker 8 (37:52):
Rock down to kind of a one hit wonder reggae
stared and then but it's funny any He opened a
studio somewhere in the Bahamas or somewhere in the Caribbean,
not Jamaica. He opened a studio, a recording studio where
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a lot of really famous albums ended up being recorded.
Eddie Grant, he's the guy that sang the Romance in
the Stone song, which I don't ever believe made it
into the actual movie. It was only in the trailer.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Huh, Patris, you got any special plans from fourth of July?
It's Friday, so you're gonna get all banged up and
light off some piccolo petz with the neighbors or what?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (38:37):
I mean?
Speaker 8 (38:37):
I liked San Pedro is a is a where a
town I grew up in and around is is pretty
good for fireworks, where like everybody on the street has
their own mortars and stuff, and it's like Vietnam, you know,
like block by block it gets really and San Pedro's
that way, Wilmington's that way. Harbor cities that way La
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Meta is that way, you know, all the way up
through the city and then all the way up through
the gateway cities between Orange County and La like Paramount
and Compton and Downy and Cerritos and Lamarada. I mean
they all, I mean, every single block has their own
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iron dome.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
In Israel, you know.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
They just I mean it's it's fireworks are illegal and
everybody has file. It's you know, it's like Jamaica, guns
are illegal and everybody's got a gun.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
So it is, yeah, a chopper, uh and uh.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
And so it's it's fun in that regard because you
get to higher ground, so to speak, and you just
watch the city explode. But it's also like that when
the Dodgers win. Yeah, an electric avenue, no doubt about it.
And you know every year somebody loses a hand, like
the Dodger guy.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Did you know?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
So that got earlier? Give it the way.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Petro's always a good time here on this Wednesday morning.
Well there it is the coast of the Petros and
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and the family. Appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Romance in the stunt.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Oh my gosh, this is ridiculously bad. Great song, I mean,
but it sounds like the type of music Kirk Douglas
will be getting.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Just coked up taking what he wants.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Kirk Douglas, Kirk Douglas.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Kirk's the dad.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Which one is it?
Speaker 8 (40:46):
Mark's the dad with the dimple from Spartacus. Yeah, Michael Douglas,
coked up rapist?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
You should it?
Speaker 8 (40:54):
Not me?
Speaker 5 (40:56):
All right?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Petrusse will do Toget next week.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Alone.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
That's how you stick the.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Landing, I mean, he stuck it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Happy for the July It is the Dan Patrick Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas knocks in
for DP and the guys. Now you can hear LaVar
and I and Brady Quinn weekday mornings before The Dan
Patrick Show on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific, but with Brady
Quinn not here. LaVar Arrington and I do a show
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called Black and Drack because LaVar's LeVar, and I'm really pale.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So you play it with hold give better explanation than that. Well,
your your vampire and I'm a black man. That's correct.
So there's my quota. So there's people that think I
say my escape color every day. So there's my color.
And I call Jonas Dracula, Dracula's kid, Dracula's brother cousin.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Because LeVar LeVar claims that he saw me walk in
public one time and he was hunting and I turned
my head around in one hundred and eighty degrees looking
for something to sink my teeth in.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I'm just pale.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I've seen it, but I've seen it. It was the outfit.
You totally fit all of the stereotypes of a if
it was a stereotype of a vampire in real life,
you fit the building in that man. You scared me,
and that's the part, that's the part of the story
that you left out, Like I was sitting on my
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balcony like far enough. Well, far enough away for you
not to be able to determine exactly my my location
on my balcony.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
And then you know what was the most insulting piece
of it all is that I start walking back towards
the hotel and I've didn't turn around, and LaVar it
was walking backwards. LaVar started putting garlic inside a paintball
gun and firing it out. Oh bruh, the balcony at me.
I wouldn't have been wrong.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
You startled me so when you turned and was looking
around for bodies, and then your eyes went up and
met my eyes.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I see it's crazy. I see LaVar later. He's got
a flask on him, Like, what do you got in there?
Speaker 3 (43:25):
He's a holy water player.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm not taking any chances with you. Hell, your weird ass.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Weird ass. By the way, it is why you'd be
so awake in the morning, man. I always tried to
figure out why you're so awake in the morning. Bro,
I have slept in the seventeen hundred. That's your time
to shine. It's still dark out.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
It has been a already an eventful fourth of July
for somebody. Now, that's somebody we don't know. We just
know it's the somebody who's responsible for the pair of
panties that were laying in the courtyard.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
I mean, why somebody got lucky there's a pair of
in front of the studio and this this day and age,
this climate. Let me say, maybe somebody was unlucky. I
don't know, somebody might have got caught up or somebody
they got caught up in the rapture of love. As
Anita Baker.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Would, I would just say, that feels like something you
would want on you at all times unless things went
a certain way and and all of a sudden you realize, yeah,
you know you don't need that. You know, maybe you
want to get rid of the evidence. But me, but
here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
If it went down like that and you left your
panties like right then and there in the courtyard of
this office building, don't like, I know, it's the fourth
of July, but we're here. There's some people that's all
the security goes shit. I mean, wouldn't somebody clean them up,
like when somebody just you know, scoop and score them
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into the trash can or something. They just sitting right
there for everybody to see, just some yellow panties. And
by the way, not to nitpick here, but it is
fourth of July. You've got three colors to choose from today.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yellow yellow wasn't on the menu. That's not on the menu,
So get it together next time. If you're going to
celebrate Fourth of July with a pair of panties in
the courtyard in front of the studio, red white or
blue that's it or green class hat.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
We are in La Great Point.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
That's what.
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should be all right. So we've got conflicting reports here.
Mary Kaycabin of Cleveland dot com says that Kenny Pickett
will have the advantage in the Browns quarterback battle, writing
Thursday that Picket's superpower will be his mobility. That will
enable the Browns to be creative and unpredictable in Stefanski's offense. Specifically,
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Kavit said that Stefanski will give Picket more of an
opportunity to run the keepers, run pass options, and other
plays that rely on his strengths. Now the athletic Zach
Jackson added that Flaco Joe Flacco is the favorite to
emerge from a complicated four man quarterback competition and win
the starting job out of week one. All right, guess
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what everything's on the table in Cleveland? Okay, this idea
that like, one guy's got the advantage, No, the other
guy's got the advantage. Aren't they all kind of in
the same spot. It's a team that nobody really expects
a whole lot from. You're probably a stopgap quarterback because
of all the picks you acquired for next year in
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the trade with Jacksonville. So this site idea that, well,
Flacco's got the advantage, Kenny Pickett's got the advantage.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Who's to say Dylan Gabriel and Shore Sanders don't have
the advantage? Everything they don't. Everything should be on the
table though, in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
I'll say this, everything in theory. What you're saying is correct.
But you have a forty year old Joe Flacco who
has a body of work, and it's no, it's really
in a way, it's really no different than Aaron Rodgers.
Both have one super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Granted, people, Oh, I'm outraged. Aaron Rodgers has all of
these these MVP awards and dah da dah he's a
first ballot Hall of Famer. You're right, but not today.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
You know what he is today.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
You know what he is today? Said a guy over
forty that's going into what could perceivably be his last
year of football and he has one super Bowl championship
kind of sounds the same to me. I mean, Joe
Flacco forty, he's got a Super Bowl, did really well,
so he has a body of work to stand on.
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Kenny Pickett is still sitting on a limited resume. He
didn't do horribly bad in Pittsburgh. There were elements that
could have been working against him in Pittsburgh, and it's
led to him having an early departure from maybe possibly
being what the Steelers could have used or needed as
a you know, starting quarterback. He was a winning record
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quarterback when he departed Pittsburgh for Philly, gets an opportunity
to learn from from that staff in Philadelphia. He claims, Oh,
by the way, not as a starter, but he too
has a super Bowl ring on his resume as well.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Got playing time in that super Bowl. Okay, that counts.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
You have two super Bowl winning quarterbacks on your roster.
I believe those are the Those are if you're saying
everything's on the table for consumption, those are the main courses.
Those are the one that's the turkey you brought out.
That's the ham you brought out. It's the fourth of July.
That's the ribs that you brought through. Like, that's those
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two right there. Now as it applies to Dylan Gabriel
and Shador Sanders, I just honestly believe, and especially now
that we've seen the coverage of Shador Sanders seemingly kind
of cool off. The overwhelming amount of coverage on him.
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I think was placing a target on Stefanski in this
Cleveland Browns team. But that has kind of it's tailed
off a little bit, and now it looks as though
you're getting into what it's really going to be going
into the training camp season, and I think that it's
a reality to say that they're not factors in getting
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on the field. In fact, the biggest the biggest win
for Gabriel and for Sanders would be able to make
the active roster or possibly get on the practice squad
and see what happens from there. Does another team try
to claim your rights or whatever it may be, It
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may end up putting you in a different situation on
a different team. But that's the reality for these these
rookies that that is tremendous. That is a tremendous hill
to climb to go from the fifth round to starter.
It is a tremendous climb to go from third round
to starter. When you have two guys that are in
front of you that are veterans, and one has a
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lot of potential. He's not he's not he's not counted
out as being just a bust of a draft for
the Steelers. He still has some potential and he's young.
The other is older, and you feel a little bit
of comfort knowing that if it doesn't work with this
younger guy, that could potentially be what we need. We
have Joe Flacco to put in that can steady and
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write the ship probably be a great influence on the
locker room. So Jonas, I think that it's really not
everything's on the table. If you're looking at the two rookies,
you're probably looking at it. There's your corn, right, there's
your corn on the cob, there's your macaroni and cheese,
whatever it may be. They're side dishes, but they are
far from the main dish in this course.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
My thought on it is this, I think everything should
be on the table because it's the Browns and the
situation they're in. They should not be closed minded to
any option at quarterback. And you know, you made some
comments a few weeks back about listen, just make suit
or the starter, like at this point, just make them
the starter, and you know you got pushback on that
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and some blowback, and my thought was, well why not,
Like why is everything just a surefire bet that it's
going to be Flacco or it's gonna be Kenny Pickett.
Open this thing up and whoever plays the best, you're
gonna get the opportunity to be any politics. There shouldn't
be any contractual obligation added into the mix. Kenny Tanny
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Pickett's not on a long term deal, neither is Joe
Flacco and Dylan Gabriel and shad Or Sanders are mid
round draft picks. So I look at I go, everything
should be open for discussion when it comes to this.
Nobody's opinion or theory should be considered crazy. Everything should
be under open for discussion. I think it'll be Flacco
because I don't think Kevin Stefanski's got the wiggle room
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to be able to survive another bad year and then
come back next But he.
Speaker 3 (52:33):
Has the wiggle room That just throws the door Sanders
in as I think.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I think Kevin Stefanski is looking at this going, dude,
I need to go with what's going to save my job.
I personally feel like that's gonna be Joe Flacco. But
I don't think Stefanski's in a position to be like,
oh no, no, no, no, no no, I've got time or
I've got this. I can I can kind of, you know,
play with this or experiment with that. If I'm Kevin Stefanski,
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I'm like, look, I know what this organization has. They've
got multiple first round draft picks next year. Next year
is a much better that's the opinion from the experts.
Much better quarterback draft class. But I've got to produce
at some point now or else I'm not going to
be here next year. And if I'm Stefanski, he's got
to take a look at everything everything to figure out
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what is what is my best path to try and
keep my gig. I think it's going to be Flacco.
But this idea that like, well, no, it's it's this
and so and so's got the advantage and that person's
got the advantage. Dude, you have no idea. Until you
get to training camping into games, you have no.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Clue the real the real measurement here is it's very
difficult to be able to see if a rookie that's
never played is ready. You can get an indicator of
their their AQ by how they pick up the playbook,
how they handle their reads on the field, how they
even give the play call, how they command the the
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team you know, and how they approach the play. But
until you're in a game, a real game, not even
a preseason game, a real game where they can hit
you and everything matters and everything counts. This is not
for scrimmage for play, This is not for s's and giggles.
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This is real bullets in the chamber that are coming
at you now in those games, there are only two
guys that have those types of reps under their belts.
There are only two guys that have that type of
film on their resume, and it's not those rookies. So
if everything that you're saying is to remain and hold
true that this is his time to do it, or
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get off of the esser and move on and let
somebody else get on the pot, then he is not.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
To me.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
That is not a wise and a prudent move to
put in a third rounder or a fifth rounder to start.
I just don't see it. And there's no reason to
have had Picket or or Flacco on the roster if
that's what you were going to do, because you may
lose your job by the end of the third, fourth week,
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fifth week. You may lose your job depending on how
badly or how poorly they look. That's the potential of
what you face. Now. Granted, if you did it and
it works out, that's different. That's different. You look like
a genius. Nobody has anything to say, oh my gosh,
we said this all along, boom boom boom, But who
is that? Which rookie is that? I don't even think
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we know which rookie that is. Like you said, there's
been reports like that, have been conflicting reports on who's
actually having the most impact as a rookie on the
mini camps and the OTAs that have taken place. So
to me, right now, the most feasible approach to this,
if I'm Stefanski in the Cleveland Browns, is to go
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with the guy that you know is going to give
you the best opportunity to when that sounds cliche but
in a redundant but that's what it is. I think
that's Joe Flacco. If they're giving it to Kenny Pickett
based off of where they are right now, I wouldn't
say it's totally egregious. All I would say is is
that he's not going to have a whole lot of
(56:16):
time if he doesn't get in there and show that
he can get it done and they can make things
work very quickly, very early. I would not be surprised
if it's shifted to Flaco as quickly as possible. If
Flaco doesn't get it done, he stays in. Listen, he
stays in as the starting quarterback, and they're going to
try to figure it out for the duration of the season,
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and the only way Pickett comes back in is if
Flaco gets hurt and can't continue on and then only
then will that show or give any relevance to those
rookies as to what they may do. Again, I still
believe this is a boom or bus proposition with Shador Sanders.
If you're not really working to get him into that
(57:00):
rotation of playing, I don't really see that they have
the value that it holds value to hold four quarterbacks.
One of those one of those draft picks face getting
released from that team, and I'm telling you, fifth round
pick versus third round pick, it's a no brainer that
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it's the fifth round pick. Take the names out of it.
It's a no brainer that if you're going to release
a quarterback on your team when you could when you're
generally only carrying two to three quarterbacks at that position,
there's a strong possibility that Gabriel ends up on the
practice squad and Shador Sanders ends up going elsewhere, becoming
(57:45):
a free agent through release.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
I mean, sometimes when I'm betting on horses, because I
don't know what the hell I'm doing, I'll just bet
like four horses to win and be like, you know,
I mean something's got to hit. You know, it's like
ten to twelve horse fields. Something's gotta hit.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Do that would Roulette?
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Oh yeah, you bet the inside and it'll.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Beat the hell out of you trying to come up
with what you think what strategy is going to win.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Here's what's great about this. You can I think you
can bet on the brown starting quarterback. I would literally
place a bet on all four because I think anything
could happen. I really did, like they're they're in such
a spine.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
I've done that in Roulette and it landed on Green.
Took all my mind. I think Lee was with me.
I put all this cash down on evens, odds, Black Rid.
That bit's hit Green. Oh yeah? Would I would never
gamble again too, I mean I put it all out there.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, I'd be looking ashtrays, I'd be I'd be jumping
in the Blagio fountain like it'd be.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
That's terrible. You want to know the point. You want
to know the ultimate point of that story. Maybe these
quarterbacks are red and black and evens and odds. You
don't have any Green on your team. Maybe your Green
is rehabbing.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Or maybe you're green.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
Maybe your green is rehabbing. Maybe he's sitting there and
in the wings, he's getting healthy. Everybody's talking about all
these quarterbacks right here. What are you going to do
with her? These guys? He steady rehabbing, getting healthy, and
then he comes back like Superman in a in a
moment of glory and is now made whole with his
(59:29):
big contract and lives up to all of the expectations
he had coming in.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
The NFL's most expensive mentor.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
That would be an amazing That would be an amazing
storyline that developed. I tell you that
Is the best of two pros and a couple, Joe
with LaVar arrings and rating win and Jonas Knox on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It is the Herd Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for Colin. You can listen to this show
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(00:34):
Pacific here on FSR. So we open up the show
talking about the feel good moment in Los Angeles with
Clayton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand and then the reality
of waking up and realizing you're also probably a Laker fan,
which sucks, but again, you know, is what it is.
That being said, we now turn over to somebody else
(00:55):
in the world of football who knows a thing or
two about dysfunction. That would be none other than Nebraska
head coach Matt Ruhle, your former teammate at at Penn State.
Lebar you guys are amen, Yeah, you guys are real
nice to him.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
In practice. I'm sure we had a good time with Matt.
Matt was a special teams guy. He was a special
situations person. Yeah, it's super super intelligent football player. Again,
I credit him with a lot of things that I
learned as a freshman. How you know, I knew how
to study film to a certain degree. I knew how
(01:29):
to take notes to a certain degree. In high school,
I had a pretty good, good program I had came from.
But when I got to college, I realized very quickly
how much of the educational part of football was involved
in terms of the studying, being able to know what
to look for, you know, being able to break down
(01:49):
what it is that the offense is doing and how
you need to apply that to you and your information
and your notes. Matt, Matt Ruhle did an excellent job
of sitting with me and us learning that. You know,
my freshman year there was his last year there, but
it turns out it translated into him being a really,
really fine football coach as well through through the years.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So he was talking with Greg McElroy on the Always
College Football podcast and he says that the experience in
the NFL probably makes him more ready for what the
new experience of college football is like.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
I think the biggest certain thing you learn when you're
in the NFL is really evaluation, you know, like the
four collegeable So yeah, I think he's the player's offer
was taken.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You get the NFL.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's all they're all good players, you know, it's just
a what's the financial value were put on this person
and put on this position? And you're in the NFL
a good free agency and the NBC teams walking away
from the lead players because of their contract situation.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
So that was Matt Rule talking about the contractual similarities
now all of a sudden between the NFL and college football,
and it is it does I do wonder if him
having that time there in the league makes him more
ready for it from that standpoint to where it's now
not just your typical well do you want to go recruiting?
(03:14):
Now the money aspect being brought into it maybe makes
those conversations and how he evaluates players and what they
can and can't do, Maybe it makes that a little
bit more I guess a little bit more accustomed to him,
just based on that time he had in Carolina in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I mean, I would assume that that would be the
reason why Bill Belichick went to North Carolina. Is that
we are stepping into a brave new world of what
the NFL represents. I mean, excuse me, what college football represents.
And you do have to figure out what the value
is on the position, you know, on the skill level,
(03:51):
on the influence. There are a lot of elements that
are now in play. I would say it's it's probably
a little bit more complex and a little bit more
complicated than just looking at it from the scope of
what happens in the NFL. Other than you having to
figure out how much to pay and evaluating based off
of what the pay would be versus evaluating if I
(04:14):
want to give this guy a scholarship, if we want
him to play on the field as a starter in
one of the offensive or defensive groups versus special teams.
It's just very different. I think the reason why it
would be more complex, Jonas is from the standpoint of
the transfer portal is what really to me makes it
(04:36):
very interesting. We just had the conversation too long ago,
not too long ago, about the suing. Now we have
one university sue another university based upon taking what is
in Miami took a player from Wisconsin. Wisconsin, Okay, they
felt like the player owed them whatever it is he
(05:00):
owed them based off of the contract that he signed.
So until elements like that get cleared up, where the
legalities of what's taking place at the college level and
how that works and who you're you know, I guess
basically who your rights belong to. Now, yes, you do
have an advantage over most likely college coaches because they
(05:23):
don't understand most likely you know, salary caps and free
agency and how that all works. But there's still a
learning curve that's there because of the lack of structure
and the lack of established rules on what the engagements are.
What's a do, what's a don't? You know, what's breaking
(05:45):
the rule, what isn't. There is a lot of gray
area that still exists at the college level, and I
think that it makes it very difficult for coaches and
administrators like athletic directors. You know, you're talking about twenty
million dollars I believe that they get yearly. But that's
for all sports. It's not just for one sport. So
now you got to figure out a salary cap, but
(06:06):
you got to figure out what that salary cap represents
for all of your sports. I think Pence has like
something like eight hundred plus student athletes in their school.
So there's a lot that has to be figured out.
But now you start to break it down by sport,
and obviously you're hiring gms, you're hiring head of staffs
(06:27):
that are now you're now structuring the football programs more
like proteins. And I would say that's probably where Matt
Rule is probably talking about, outside of just evaluation, having
maybe somewhat of an advantage in terms of how he
runs its team.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And I would also say, based on his time in
the NFL with Carolina, at least he's got a pretty
good example of how not to do things because that
place was a complete clown show. And what he went
through at Carolina or where he David Tepper brings him in,
there was some interest from the Giants. Matt Ruhle gets
a seven year deal from the Panthers. Then all of
(07:06):
a sudden, all the conversations, the whispers start to start
up that David Tepper is getting involved, he's meddling into
things he's want to And Matt Rule even said before
the season before he was fired, Listen, I signed a
seven year deal. I was told by David Tepp basically
put David Tepper on blasts like, hey, I was told
(07:27):
by the owner that I'm going to be given a
significant amount of time to get this thing sorted out.
I'm working with that understanding going into all this, and then,
you know, however long it was later than he was gone.
I wonder if Matt Ruhle goes back to college with
a better understanding of the salary cap, the structure, but
also a better understanding of whatever I do. I don't
(07:50):
want it to turn into what I came from in
the NFL, like he's got he's got to be. I
would imagine he draws from that experience of exhibit A,
how things could go sideways if you let it get
out of control above you.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, you know what's interesting point to that is is
that when it's the pros, people have no problem doing
coverage and scrutinizing the dysfunction of ownership or of the
front office. It almost seems as though that's what's going
to eventually take shape and take hold at the college level.
(08:26):
Probably you've never really heard like all the dysfunction of
the president of the university, ad of the university, or
all those different things. So you'd have to assume, and
this brave new world of nil and how things are
being handled at the college level, that if you're dealing
with a dysfunctional organization university front office, ads, administrators, whatever
(08:50):
it may be, if you're dealing with that type of dysfunction,
I wonder will that become prevalent and will that create
more pressure on the universities and how they're not only
hiring their athletic directors, but ultimately how they're hiring the
presidents and the people that administratively are running the school.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's also it's almost like now that money's involved, uh, oh,
open season on everybody. Oh like that now now that
we know that people are getting paid, players admitted, Now
that we know all of that, everybody's going to be
held to the same standard that you've seen from a
professional level.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You could play that this is an academic institution game.
All you want, you're gonna find your academic institution as
out on the street looking for a job. You got
to figure it out because that is that has been
the cash cow for these universities for many, many moons.
And if you mess that up now because you don't
(09:48):
you know, it's always been really easy to minimize. Even
like when I play for Joe Paterno, Joe minimized athletics.
He minimized athletes because it was more about being a student.
It was more about education. It's like, who cares. We
play the game, we win the game, we lose the game.
(10:08):
But they got class on Monday.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
They got to turn in their their their papers.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
They gotta get good grades. Like it was always about academics.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
You use.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Made a mistake. Okay, hey, hey, I'll.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Put you on the bus that I brought your heir on.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Shout It matter anyway. But but here's my point. The
point is is that you cannot hide behind the moniker
of this is a place in an institution of higher
learning and education. You can't have behind it. You certainly
have to have it. The prestige of going to a
(10:49):
fine college and the institution of learning higher learning is
very attractive. But make no mistake about it, you will
not be any in any position as a head of school,
president of the school board of trustees, whatever it is.
You are not in a place where you can minimize
athletics and try to suppress what athletics represents to what
(11:13):
the the earning capacity of what it represents to the
university and in some cases to the state. You can't
minimize it now because it is now being turned into
a very very pro like approach, and now people are
going to be in a very very quick rush, a
(11:35):
quick movement to try to figure out what the solutions are,
what are what are even the positions the appointment of
new jobs that have to be created in order to
be able to handle this. You're going to have to
have capologists. You're gonna have to have gms, You're gonna
have to You're gonna have to have scouts, like and
they already have scouts.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Michael Lombardi's Michael Lombardi's, Belichick's GM College.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
There's a lot, There's a lot. There is a lot here,
and hearing what Matt Ruhle has to say, it's just
the tip of the iceberg in terms of all of
the conversations that are going to continue to come up
and become like, what what are the main topics of
conversations as it applies to this new world of what
(12:23):
sports represent at the college level.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Do you mean to tell me as we sit here
right now on the third of July twenty twenty five,
that the term student athlete no longer means the same thing.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
No, it doesn't. It doesn't because you don't have to
everybody that understands going to college and playing the game
that was a that was a politically correct way of
expressing what you were as a scholarship player. You had
to say it, I am a student athlete. And while
(12:59):
it is still not a pay for play model in college,
it is still not pay for play. The one term
that they have to get used to, and it's going
to have to be embraced, and it's going to lead
to a whole lot of different things, organizing unions and
having union reps and maybe it leads to collective bargaining
(13:22):
agreements and all kinds of stuff like that. Is employee
is employee, And that's what's going to be interesting. How
quickly does the college level get to the place where
it is comfortable saying that these are employees, Meaning if
(13:43):
they are employees, you're talking about retirement, you're talking about insurance,
you're taking all the things that come along with being
an employee. They are going to have to figure for
and they're going to have to have the resources and
the funds to put towards those things. Once it becomes
a real thing that college athletes are not student athletes
(14:08):
just student athletes. They are students, They are athletes, and
they are employees. Once you get those three put together
and the understanding of.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
That is really realized, realized to speak for a living,
Once the realization of that comes to fruition, there is.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Going to be so many people. Lawyers, you know, financial planners,
you name it. There's going to be so there's even
private private family offices, investors, major investors. They are now
looking at the college space the same way that they
are looking at the pro space. There are people that
are actually trying to purchase the rights of the school.
(14:52):
It's outside of the leer fields and the play flies
and stuff like that. There are actually private equity groups
that are trying to purchase schools. In other words, what
it is that the sports represents. They're trying to purchase
the rights to that so that they can use that
as a place to place their money. This is a
(15:12):
very deep rabbit hole that has been created, and I
don't see the bottom of it. I don't see the
bottom of it just yet. It's still just black. It's
just darkness. You don't see the bottom, like, oh, there's
the floor of this nil there's the floor of this
new new college college world. You don't see it yet.
There's still so much more to be defined. I mean,
(15:34):
what does that look like for liability? You know what
type of lawsuits are going to come from? You know
the athletes that are playing, like, what type of rights
do they have? How does this impact Title nine? Like
with women's involvement and them having fair opportunity to be
treated equally? How do all of these things happen? Do
you stay with the NCAAA. How strong does the NCAAA stay.
(15:56):
There are a lot of different conversations, a lot of
different lanes of different roads where all of these things
have to be discussed and have to be flushed out
and established, and it isn't going to be anytime soon,
and these athletes are tasked with trying to navigate it
as athletes to a new space, and so are the coaches,
and so are the administrators of these schools.
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Speaker 2 (17:01):
It is that time. There's a tradition on this show,
and that tradition is none other than Petros papadaikis the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports
Fox College Football Analyst and find him on X at
the Old p Petros Good morning, Good morning, Hello Skirt,
(17:27):
what Pete?
Speaker 5 (17:28):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Is this the other Jello? Oh that's one.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
There's only one Jello.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
There's only one Jello. Hey, but I'll tell you what
there isn't just one of I was today years old
when I realized, who, Jeff Bezo's just just married.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Oh right man?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, can you give me because you you're a LA guy,
can you give me some color on this? Bro?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Because it is sports related? Oh yeah, marriage is sports relate.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Make sure to add some color on it.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
There to be a comed there used to be a
comedian in uh in Gotham City who had a wife
and I think a pregnant wife or something, and was
struggling and went into a life of crime and fell
into a vat of chemicals. And that comedian came out
with green hair and and a weird white face. And
(18:21):
now they're known as the Joker. The Joker, and she
married Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Uh, thank you Jonas.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
Uh she uh she worked Miss and discriminate though well,
Miss sin Chez worked at Channel eleven, which is which
one is that kt TV out here, which is the
Fox affiliate.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
So uh, she.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Worked at the Fox affiliate which is not where all
the Fox people like me work, uh, which is down
the street, which is the Fox lot, the movie lot
which they actually sold along a few years ago to
ESPN and a bunch of other people. They don't own
it anymore, but they rent their sports building on the
(19:12):
Fox lot, So if that makes any sense, the twentieth
century Fox Lot is really no longer owned by Fox.
But that's where we all work. KTTV is on Bundy,
which everybody knows from the OJ trial, a little ways
over in Brentwood, West LA. And that's where Fox eleven is.
(19:35):
She Sanchez worked there as a news lady, and I
believe that I don't know, I just like to or Lopez.
She she she worked there at KTTV, and she was married,
even though it's not listed. She was married to a
(19:57):
famous old KTTV's foot soldier, reporter and really good play
by play guy who was a USC played by play
guy for SC basketball and he was an Angels play
by play guy. And he passed away, uh kind of suddenly,
but he was. She was married to Rory Marcus for
a little while.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Was she really uh huh?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
And then she uh yeah, Bryan Thompson, Yeah, she was
married to him. It was like the Kim, that black
dude that Kim Kardashian was married to. First that everybody, yeah, yeah,
everybody acts like ray J was the first dude to
date her. But uh so after that, she dated Anthony Miller,
(20:40):
the wide receiver from the Chargers and Denver, Yes, and
then and then she dated Tony Gonzalez and had a
baby with him, and then she dated like Derek Fisher. Yeah,
and I mean she'd been around uh and uh and
(21:00):
then Bezos snatched her up. But she doesn't look the
same that she as she used to, and neither does he.
You know, he looks like this way different. He looks
like a sperm that lifted weights. So is it like
a swall little sperm.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Is it fair to say that she she's got power
to all fields? Basically looking at her resume here, well, I.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Would, I mean to me, it still seems like she's
she's one tool.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Player because Rory Marcus looks different than Anthony.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
Yeah, well Rory would be Yeah, that was you know,
the black guy that Kardashian. But uh, let's see if
I got any wrong. She got Tony Gonzalez, that was
her two thousand, had Anthony Miller, Then she was with
Derek Fisher.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, and uh, Henry Simmons, I feel like Simmons, whoever
they been looking super good looking. Due played like a
police officer on on television.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
And well then she married another random white Patrick White.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Sound then she yeah, she went back to the other side,
and then she came back. You know, well she stays, yeah,
you're right. She she she hits Hoppo, So yeah, she's
not Yeah, she's not.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Taco Yeah, real slock hit.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And she don't go and she don't stay a certain
like skin color either, Like she goes light skinned, dark
skinning brown.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You know what, bring it, everybody up top.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I mean, she's United Nations. This is what the American dream,
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I'm happy for her. Well, she's got a lot of.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Friends who are like people at Fox, like the kind
of people the kind of person that sued Cowhard or.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Who was who did that Lady Sue and Sharp.
Speaker 8 (22:39):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of those type of people were
like people that work at Fox wardrobe people stuff like that.
And then you know Carrissa is very close with them,
who does a lot of work with Amazon. So it
was there was there was some people that I knew
there there were. If I was there, there would have
been people to say it with.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Can I ask you a question of follow up to this.
What is it? What is it with La people sharing
one another? Like I've never like maybe I haven't liked Hell.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I don't know. I'm from here. Don't nobody cheer for me?
They don't share you. They don't cheer me, show me
or share me or cheer me.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, share not chair not cheer leading.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Sharing.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Sharing is caring, Like a lot of people share each
other's people out here, Like, I get it. It's a
weird culture of that in La I have.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Yeah, I used to know Maoi pretty well, just from
a home there that my in laws owned, so we
would stay, you know, out of the hotel areas and stuff,
and you end up talking to people and you get
to know people that live there, and they don't they
talk about women there, that there's just not that many
women and that there's.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Not really that many people on the island.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
And I always think of a Hawaiian island, especially Maui,
as like a movie set. And sadly it was very
very prevalent when they had the disastrous fire there in Lahina.
But I always think of those places as kind of
a movie set, like it's beautiful, there's all these buildings
(24:19):
that it seems like there's all this stuff, these stores,
these restaurants, but there really are no resources, and if
you push on it, it like falls over.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It's it's false, it's not real.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
And you learn that when something bad happens, like an
individual disaster where somebody gets hurt catastrophically, and if you
can't survive a metavac to Honolulu, you're gonna die. This
is a long way to answer your question, but I
think it's prevalence.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
It's all right what people feel the relevance of this.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
What people say in Maui is you don't really get
your a relationship with a girl.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
You get your.
Speaker 8 (24:57):
Turn because you know, there's really not that many people there.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
You know. It's kind of like you know that old joke,
it's your night in the barrel.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And so it's about eligible date.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
I don't I think lascause there are a ton of
people in La Yeah, there are people here, there are,
but there's only a certain amount of people that think
that they're as cool as these idiot marginal TV stars
that you will share.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
And God forbid, and God forbid one of those women
who gets meta backed, you know, then oh.
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Yeah, they're never gonna survive the Medovac to Honolulu. But
they're just that it's a little tiny pond and they
just jumped from lily Pad to lily Pad without really
going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Who's in the pond? Is it like they know where
to go? Like, like, how do you like? This is
an impressive.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
There's a sign outside of the pond and it says
c AA.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I mean that's seriously, you know it's it's.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
They meet through agencies.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, it's agency bs.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
It's people who have you been to these parties that
you guys go to the Sleeper Bowl?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Yeah, but you guys go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Right, Yeah. I don't go to the parties.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
But you see all the TV people walking around the
space and they all act like they are seriously like
at the at the GA seven conference, like they are
signing global law into I mean, they really do act
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like they're doing something important.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
And they only stay in their own space too, by
the way, like you'll see them moving around, but they
only acknowledge one another.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Well, yeah, it's like being at those parties whenever. And
this happens to be at the Fox Seminar every year,
and I've been going to the Fox Seminar probably longer
than anybody else that's worked there, because I've worked there
for so long, but I mean other than Howie Long
and Terry Bradshaw people like that. But everybody that you
talk to, it feels like, at least me, they're always
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looking over your shoulder for somebody cooler to show up,
you know, And that's that's kind of like the vibe
of these people. But not everybody's happy with the bezosweating.
I mean, there was massive protests, I don't know if massive,
but noticeable, noticeable protest in Venice where people were unhappy.
They don't love their tourists there, but I don't really
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know what they have if they don't have tourists, just
a bunch of stinking brackish water, and uh, it grows
and then I mean, can you imagine it's literally it's thousands, Yeah,
it's thousands and thousands of years of rotting city on
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disgusting water. But anyway, the people, the people in Venice
weren't happy. Charlis Throne took a shot at them from
the Universal Lot at some party, and Katie Kurrk called
it tacky, and so did others like Bethany Frankel and
people that weren't invited.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Does she count?
Speaker 5 (28:04):
I'm sorry, does who does count?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Franklo?
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I mean, I'm just saying there's some pushbacks.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Skinnybadka now Petros, I am wondering, Kitty Girl, Margarita Arguer?
Will you be tonight is a big night for the
Why what did I miss? Clayton Kershaw will go three
thousand strikeout against the awful White Sox leader Dodger Stadium.
Will you be live on location for that event later on?
Speaker 5 (28:34):
No?
Speaker 8 (28:35):
No, we inquired about being there and then we're not
going to be there, but.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Usually we are there for events like this.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
But either way, Yeah, the Kershaw thing is happening tonight.
He's had a long career.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Kershaw. Excuse me, hold on.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Bless you? Sorry, bless you? No worries? Do you take
do you take martial arts class?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
You?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yea?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Y yogi? Yogi? You're a dishonor k We were talking
about Kershaw.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Kershaw reminds me a little bit of Kobe in town,
you know, And I don't think people can really grasp
I mean, you could look at the numbers and all that,
and the playoffs were.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
A whole different rigamarole.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
But Kershaw has had a heck of a career and
he was so dominant when he was in his prime
as a pitcher. The Dodgers took a trip to Australia.
Remember when they played in Australia. We all remembered Korea
and Japan, but like seven, eight, nine years ago, they
played in Australia and to start out the season, and
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the long flight and the flight home ruined Kershaw's back
to where he needed to have back surgery. And he's
never had elbow surgery. Imagine that. I mean, this guy's
been pitched for twenty years. Most guys by the time
they're twenty years old have to Tommy Johns now a
major league pitchers. This guy has never had one. But
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he did end up having back surgery. But he reminds
me a little bit of Kobe in that he was
so dominant in his.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Time and.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Literally not very friendly with the LA media and just
you know, just not a cup cuddly warm guy. And
you got the the and I don't blame him, but
you know, he's from Texas and you get got the
idea that he was just didn't want to be here,
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you know, like Los Angeles was not a great fit
for him. But of course it's been a dream career
and he's had the whole thing here and him and
his wife Allen have learned to adapt to the area
during the season and all that. But it does remind
me of Kobe because like the last three or four years,
as his career has just sort of unmercifully come to
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an end, and he keeps going and he's not throwing
ninety five ninety six anymore. He's throwing eighty nine and
he's still striking people out and he's still got a
lot of savvy up there. He's the oldest looking thirty
seven year old or whatever in the history of the world.
I mean, he looks like Greg Oden or DeAndre Ayton there.
He's got the old man look, deep crevices in his face.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, the sweat marks on his hat.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
Yeah, he's wearing it and he and now he's like
all friendly and doing interviews and he's everybody's bff. And
it's like, to me, it's a little bit like Kobe.
It's like, remember how you act in the last sixteen years,
you know, and all of a sudden, now that you're
on your way out, it's like, hey, I love y'all.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
It's like, no, you don't.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
But anyway, he's had a hell of a career and
he's had a terrible, terrible time of it in the playoffs. Also,
there's been a lot of ups and downs, and he
is he is an eye and he would have gotten
it looked like he would have gotten into his three
thousand strikeout and uh wherever they were, Colorado, but they
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pulled him and when he had three left with only uh,
not that many pitches, so they could set the stage
for what otherwise might not be a very well attended
game tonight in uh at Dodger Stadium against the White Sox.
So there'll be a coronation tonight unless he just goes
out there and gets his boob scooped out.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
But that's probably I don't think that. I mean, the
White Sox aren't very good. Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Now you mentioned the plane ride. Is that is that
the story that everyone's going with that the plane ride
from Australia hurt his back? Yes, that's a real How.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Are you saying that he was eaten by a dingo?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
So I'm just like, how do you like sitting on
a plane. It's not like they're taking.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
The plane ride. I mean the guid and was never hurt.
He never had any issues.
Speaker 8 (32:53):
And the long plane ride he slept weird and his
back got weird and then he probably pushed it on
the bad back and made it worse or something.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
I don't know, like it's not my back. I got
enough problem.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Were they taking the romancing the Stone plane? Like what
are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Like that romancing the Stone?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
It feels like they leave me alone, the travel in
luxury and he wouldn't have to worry about back pain.
I've never flown to Australia, so I don't know exactly.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
You should book your favorite guy, David Vasse Dodger reporter,
because he is the guy behind the Kershaw's back was
ruined on the Australian plane.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Hey, Kershaw's the reason David Massey attacks me on the air. Okay,
because David Massay has got trauma from back then and
he takes it out on me.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
So you know what, You're right.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
He has a lot of trauma for being bullied by
baseball players over the years.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I don't know what's going on. Are we almost are
we wrapping up the the era of being nailed by
the King Petros is it? Is it winding down here
with Lebron or what's.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Romancing the Stone?
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Romancing the Stone?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Was that a how did they slip that into the
culture and nobody really took a good look at it.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
But romance in the Stone?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
What is the stone that's being romance?
Speaker 5 (34:09):
It's like a jewel that they were all at.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Oh, of course it is. And then there was a
who's the main character in that movie?
Speaker 8 (34:15):
Michael Douglas, Kathleen Turner and Danny DeVito.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Danny DeVito, no further than that first name. I already
know what Romancing the Stone is when that first guy
is in the movie.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
That a reference to cocaine.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
No, Michael Douglas, he's horned up.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
I don't think there's any better like angry pissed off
cocaine a hole give it up main character than Michael Douglas.
Just one angry on cocaine all pro not liked, you know,
just in black.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Rain running around Japan getting pissed.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Off taking it.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
The sequel to Jewel of the Nile was or was
Romancing the Stone was Jewel of the remember that, And
the song was by Billy Ocean Romance in the Stone.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
That never leave me alone taking it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
You get that look in this, You get that facial
expression that looking in I mean, look.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
We all remember, we all remember.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
The scene in Basic Instinct where he ripped off poor
Jeanie triple horns g string taking it.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
But uh, anyway.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Lebron James, all right, okay, there we go back to
the point.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I think what happened.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Uh, And I'm not the only one to say this.
My radio partners the first one to mention it, and
it made sense to me. Was it just feels like
they offer the Lebron people tried to get ahead of
the new ownership and get a new deal and get
some more years on his deal, and they told him no.
(35:54):
So then Lebron had to release that really weird statement
through shams to uh to the what wasn't about the
Oh just yeah, the Lakers know that this is important
and we've got to keep an eye on the right.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
It's an amazing thing.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Like basically, Lebron saying I have my contract is crippling
to any franchise.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Uh, and no one will take it.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
So I'm going to use this contract to cripple you,
but I'm also going to hold you accountable for your
bad roster that exists because of my bad contract, So
it it could be winding down. But I do think
we're going to have another year of struggling with the King.
But I don't think that the uh.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I don't think that he is the Lakers priority anymore.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
And I think that was very very obvious to everybody
when he was.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
When Luka donct showed up.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
So when that trade happened, I think it was pretty
obvious to everybody that the Lakers are are are a
Luca team and no longer a Lebron team. So everything
else that you hear out of the Lebron people are
like the death spasms of his relevance in the city,
which I hope is ending.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
So is did It's just still moving.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a death rattle.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
But I don't think uh, I don't think they can
get rid of them, right, I mean without getting in
all the NBA loophole bs that everybody sits there.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
And what does that mean for Brownie?
Speaker 5 (37:32):
That's a great question, you know, what does it mean
for Brownie? You know?
Speaker 8 (37:38):
And what does it mean? Oh, Eddie Grant sings Romance
in the Stone. I'm sorry, guys, all right, corrections and retractions.
Do you guys know who Eddie Grant is? Electric Avenue?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
I do I know who that we're going a.
Speaker 8 (37:52):
Rock down to kind of a one hit wonder reggae
stared and then but it's funny any He opened a
studio somewhere in the Bahamas or somewhere in the Caribbean,
not Jamaica. He opened a studio, a recording studio where
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a lot of really famous albums ended up being recorded.
Eddie Grant, he's the guy that sang the Romance in
the Stone song, which I don't ever believe made it
into the actual movie. It was only in the trailer.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Huh, Patris, you got any special plans from fourth of July?
It's Friday, so you're gonna get all banged up and
light off some piccolo petz with the neighbors or what?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (38:37):
I mean?
Speaker 8 (38:37):
I liked San Pedro is a is a where a
town I grew up in and around is is pretty
good for fireworks, where like everybody on the street has
their own mortars and stuff, and it's like Vietnam, you know,
like block by block it gets really and San Pedro's
that way, Wilmington's that way. Harbor cities that way La
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Meta is that way, you know, all the way up
through the city and then all the way up through
the gateway cities between Orange County and La like Paramount
and Compton and Downy and Cerritos and Lamarada. I mean
they all, I mean, every single block has their own
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iron dome.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
In Israel, you know.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
They just I mean it's it's fireworks are illegal and
everybody has file. It's you know, it's like Jamaica, guns
are illegal and everybody's got a gun.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
So it is, yeah, a chopper, uh and uh.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
And so it's it's fun in that regard because you
get to higher ground, so to speak, and you just
watch the city explode. But it's also like that when
the Dodgers win. Yeah, an electric avenue, no doubt about it.
And you know every year somebody loses a hand, like
the Dodger guy.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Did you know?
Speaker 3 (39:59):
So that got earlier? Give it the way.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Petro's always a good time here on this Wednesday morning.
Well there it is the coast of the Petros and
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and the family. Appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Romance in the stunt.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Oh my gosh, this is ridiculously bad. Great song, I mean,
but it sounds like the type of music Kirk Douglas
will be getting.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Just coked up taking what he wants.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Kirk Douglas, Kirk Douglas.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Kirk's the dad.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Which one is it?
Speaker 8 (40:46):
Mark's the dad with the dimple from Spartacus. Yeah, Michael Douglas,
coked up rapist?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
You should it?
Speaker 8 (40:54):
Not me?
Speaker 5 (40:56):
All right?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Petrusse will do Toget next week.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Alone.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
That's how you stick the.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Landing, I mean, he stuck it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Happy for the July It is the Dan Patrick Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas knocks in
for DP and the guys. Now you can hear LaVar
and I and Brady Quinn weekday mornings before The Dan
Patrick Show on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific, but with Brady
Quinn not here. LaVar Arrington and I do a show
(41:40):
called Black and Drack because LaVar's LeVar, and I'm really pale.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So you play it with hold give better explanation than that. Well,
your your vampire and I'm a black man. That's correct.
So there's my quota. So there's people that think I
say my escape color every day. So there's my color.
And I call Jonas Dracula, Dracula's kid, Dracula's brother cousin.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Because LeVar LeVar claims that he saw me walk in
public one time and he was hunting and I turned
my head around in one hundred and eighty degrees looking
for something to sink my teeth in.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I'm just pale.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I've seen it, but I've seen it. It was the outfit.
You totally fit all of the stereotypes of a if
it was a stereotype of a vampire in real life,
you fit the building in that man. You scared me,
and that's the part, that's the part of the story
that you left out, Like I was sitting on my
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balcony like far enough. Well, far enough away for you
not to be able to determine exactly my my location
on my balcony.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
And then you know what was the most insulting piece
of it all is that I start walking back towards
the hotel and I've didn't turn around, and LaVar it
was walking backwards. LaVar started putting garlic inside a paintball
gun and firing it out. Oh bruh, the balcony at me.
I wouldn't have been wrong.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
You startled me so when you turned and was looking
around for bodies, and then your eyes went up and
met my eyes.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I see it's crazy. I see LaVar later. He's got
a flask on him, Like, what do you got in there?
Speaker 3 (43:25):
He's a holy water player.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I'm not taking any chances with you. Hell, your weird ass.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Weird ass. By the way, it is why you'd be
so awake in the morning, man. I always tried to
figure out why you're so awake in the morning. Bro,
I have slept in the seventeen hundred. That's your time
to shine. It's still dark out.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
It has been a already an eventful fourth of July
for somebody. Now, that's somebody we don't know. We just
know it's the somebody who's responsible for the pair of
panties that were laying in the courtyard.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
I mean, why somebody got lucky there's a pair of
in front of the studio and this this day and age,
this climate. Let me say, maybe somebody was unlucky. I
don't know, somebody might have got caught up or somebody
they got caught up in the rapture of love. As
Anita Baker.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Would, I would just say, that feels like something you
would want on you at all times unless things went
a certain way and and all of a sudden you realize, yeah,
you know you don't need that. You know, maybe you
want to get rid of the evidence. But me, but
here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
If it went down like that and you left your
panties like right then and there in the courtyard of
this office building, don't like, I know, it's the fourth
of July, but we're here. There's some people that's all
the security goes shit. I mean, wouldn't somebody clean them up,
like when somebody just you know, scoop and score them
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into the trash can or something. They just sitting right
there for everybody to see, just some yellow panties. And
by the way, not to nitpick here, but it is
fourth of July. You've got three colors to choose from today.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yellow yellow wasn't on the menu. That's not on the menu,
So get it together next time. If you're going to
celebrate Fourth of July with a pair of panties in
the courtyard in front of the studio, red white or
blue that's it or green class hat.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
We are in La Great Point.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
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should be all right. So we've got conflicting reports here.
Mary Kaycabin of Cleveland dot com says that Kenny Pickett
will have the advantage in the Browns quarterback battle, writing
Thursday that Picket's superpower will be his mobility. That will
enable the Browns to be creative and unpredictable in Stefanski's offense. Specifically,
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Kavit said that Stefanski will give Picket more of an
opportunity to run the keepers, run pass options, and other
plays that rely on his strengths. Now the athletic Zach
Jackson added that Flaco Joe Flacco is the favorite to
emerge from a complicated four man quarterback competition and win
the starting job out of week one. All right, guess
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what everything's on the table in Cleveland? Okay, this idea
that like, one guy's got the advantage, No, the other
guy's got the advantage. Aren't they all kind of in
the same spot. It's a team that nobody really expects
a whole lot from. You're probably a stopgap quarterback because
of all the picks you acquired for next year in
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the trade with Jacksonville. So this site idea that, well,
Flacco's got the advantage, Kenny Pickett's got the advantage.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Who's to say Dylan Gabriel and Shore Sanders don't have
the advantage? Everything they don't. Everything should be on the
table though, in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
I'll say this, everything in theory. What you're saying is correct.
But you have a forty year old Joe Flacco who
has a body of work, and it's no, it's really
in a way, it's really no different than Aaron Rodgers.
Both have one super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Granted, people, Oh, I'm outraged. Aaron Rodgers has all of
these these MVP awards and dah da dah he's a
first ballot Hall of Famer. You're right, but not today.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
You know what he is today.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
You know what he is today? Said a guy over
forty that's going into what could perceivably be his last
year of football and he has one super Bowl championship
kind of sounds the same to me. I mean, Joe
Flacco forty, he's got a Super Bowl, did really well,
so he has a body of work to stand on.
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Kenny Pickett is still sitting on a limited resume. He
didn't do horribly bad in Pittsburgh. There were elements that
could have been working against him in Pittsburgh, and it's
led to him having an early departure from maybe possibly
being what the Steelers could have used or needed as
a you know, starting quarterback. He was a winning record
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quarterback when he departed Pittsburgh for Philly, gets an opportunity
to learn from from that staff in Philadelphia. He claims, Oh,
by the way, not as a starter, but he too
has a super Bowl ring on his resume as well.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Got playing time in that super Bowl. Okay, that counts.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
You have two super Bowl winning quarterbacks on your roster.
I believe those are the Those are if you're saying
everything's on the table for consumption, those are the main courses.
Those are the one that's the turkey you brought out.
That's the ham you brought out. It's the fourth of July.
That's the ribs that you brought through. Like, that's those
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two right there. Now as it applies to Dylan Gabriel
and Shador Sanders, I just honestly believe, and especially now
that we've seen the coverage of Shador Sanders seemingly kind
of cool off. The overwhelming amount of coverage on him.
(49:34):
I think was placing a target on Stefanski in this
Cleveland Browns team. But that has kind of it's tailed
off a little bit, and now it looks as though
you're getting into what it's really going to be going
into the training camp season, and I think that it's
a reality to say that they're not factors in getting
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on the field. In fact, the biggest the biggest win
for Gabriel and for Sanders would be able to make
the active roster or possibly get on the practice squad
and see what happens from there. Does another team try
to claim your rights or whatever it may be, It
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may end up putting you in a different situation on
a different team. But that's the reality for these these
rookies that that is tremendous. That is a tremendous hill
to climb to go from the fifth round to starter.
It is a tremendous climb to go from third round
to starter. When you have two guys that are in
front of you that are veterans, and one has a
(50:40):
lot of potential. He's not he's not he's not counted
out as being just a bust of a draft for
the Steelers. He still has some potential and he's young.
The other is older, and you feel a little bit
of comfort knowing that if it doesn't work with this
younger guy, that could potentially be what we need. We
have Joe Flacco to put in that can steady and
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write the ship probably be a great influence on the
locker room. So Jonas, I think that it's really not
everything's on the table. If you're looking at the two rookies,
you're probably looking at it. There's your corn, right, there's
your corn on the cob, there's your macaroni and cheese,
whatever it may be. They're side dishes, but they are
far from the main dish in this course.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
My thought on it is this, I think everything should
be on the table because it's the Browns and the
situation they're in. They should not be closed minded to
any option at quarterback. And you know, you made some
comments a few weeks back about listen, just make suit
or the starter, like at this point, just make them
the starter, and you know you got pushback on that
(51:45):
and some blowback, and my thought was, well why not,
Like why is everything just a surefire bet that it's
going to be Flacco or it's gonna be Kenny Pickett.
Open this thing up and whoever plays the best, you're
gonna get the opportunity to be any politics. There shouldn't
be any contractual obligation added into the mix. Kenny Tanny
(52:06):
Pickett's not on a long term deal, neither is Joe
Flacco and Dylan Gabriel and shad Or Sanders are mid
round draft picks. So I look at I go, everything
should be open for discussion when it comes to this.
Nobody's opinion or theory should be considered crazy. Everything should
be under open for discussion. I think it'll be Flacco
because I don't think Kevin Stefanski's got the wiggle room
(52:29):
to be able to survive another bad year and then
come back next But he.
Speaker 3 (52:33):
Has the wiggle room That just throws the door Sanders
in as I think.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
I think Kevin Stefanski is looking at this going, dude,
I need to go with what's going to save my job.
I personally feel like that's gonna be Joe Flacco. But
I don't think Stefanski's in a position to be like,
oh no, no, no, no, no no, I've got time or
I've got this. I can I can kind of, you know,
play with this or experiment with that. If I'm Kevin Stefanski,
(52:58):
I'm like, look, I know what this organization has. They've
got multiple first round draft picks next year. Next year
is a much better that's the opinion from the experts.
Much better quarterback draft class. But I've got to produce
at some point now or else I'm not going to
be here next year. And if I'm Stefanski, he's got
to take a look at everything everything to figure out
(53:21):
what is what is my best path to try and
keep my gig. I think it's going to be Flacco.
But this idea that like, well, no, it's it's this
and so and so's got the advantage and that person's
got the advantage. Dude, you have no idea. Until you
get to training camping into games, you have no.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Clue the real the real measurement here is it's very
difficult to be able to see if a rookie that's
never played is ready. You can get an indicator of
their their AQ by how they pick up the playbook,
how they handle their reads on the field, how they
even give the play call, how they command the the
(54:00):
team you know, and how they approach the play. But
until you're in a game, a real game, not even
a preseason game, a real game where they can hit
you and everything matters and everything counts. This is not
for scrimmage for play, This is not for s's and giggles.
(54:20):
This is real bullets in the chamber that are coming
at you now in those games, there are only two
guys that have those types of reps under their belts.
There are only two guys that have that type of
film on their resume, and it's not those rookies. So
if everything that you're saying is to remain and hold
true that this is his time to do it, or
(54:42):
get off of the esser and move on and let
somebody else get on the pot, then he is not.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
To me.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
That is not a wise and a prudent move to
put in a third rounder or a fifth rounder to start.
I just don't see it. And there's no reason to
have had Picket or or Flacco on the roster if
that's what you were going to do, because you may
lose your job by the end of the third, fourth week,
(55:11):
fifth week. You may lose your job depending on how
badly or how poorly they look. That's the potential of
what you face. Now. Granted, if you did it and
it works out, that's different. That's different. You look like
a genius. Nobody has anything to say, oh my gosh,
we said this all along, boom boom boom, But who
is that? Which rookie is that? I don't even think
(55:33):
we know which rookie that is. Like you said, there's
been reports like that, have been conflicting reports on who's
actually having the most impact as a rookie on the
mini camps and the OTAs that have taken place. So
to me, right now, the most feasible approach to this,
if I'm Stefanski in the Cleveland Browns, is to go
(55:54):
with the guy that you know is going to give
you the best opportunity to when that sounds cliche but
in a redundant but that's what it is. I think
that's Joe Flacco. If they're giving it to Kenny Pickett
based off of where they are right now, I wouldn't
say it's totally egregious. All I would say is is
that he's not going to have a whole lot of
(56:16):
time if he doesn't get in there and show that
he can get it done and they can make things
work very quickly, very early. I would not be surprised
if it's shifted to Flaco as quickly as possible. If
Flaco doesn't get it done, he stays in. Listen, he
stays in as the starting quarterback, and they're going to
try to figure it out for the duration of the season,
(56:39):
and the only way Pickett comes back in is if
Flaco gets hurt and can't continue on and then only
then will that show or give any relevance to those
rookies as to what they may do. Again, I still
believe this is a boom or bus proposition with Shador Sanders.
If you're not really working to get him into that
(57:00):
rotation of playing, I don't really see that they have
the value that it holds value to hold four quarterbacks.
One of those one of those draft picks face getting
released from that team, and I'm telling you, fifth round
pick versus third round pick, it's a no brainer that
(57:21):
it's the fifth round pick. Take the names out of it.
It's a no brainer that if you're going to release
a quarterback on your team when you could when you're
generally only carrying two to three quarterbacks at that position,
there's a strong possibility that Gabriel ends up on the
practice squad and Shador Sanders ends up going elsewhere, becoming
(57:45):
a free agent through release.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
I mean, sometimes when I'm betting on horses, because I
don't know what the hell I'm doing, I'll just bet
like four horses to win and be like, you know,
I mean something's got to hit. You know, it's like
ten to twelve horse fields. Something's gotta hit.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
Do that would Roulette?
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Oh yeah, you bet the inside and it'll.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Beat the hell out of you trying to come up
with what you think what strategy is going to win.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Here's what's great about this. You can I think you
can bet on the brown starting quarterback. I would literally
place a bet on all four because I think anything
could happen. I really did, like they're they're in such
a spine.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
I've done that in Roulette and it landed on Green.
Took all my mind. I think Lee was with me.
I put all this cash down on evens, odds, Black Rid.
That bit's hit Green. Oh yeah? Would I would never
gamble again too, I mean I put it all out there.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, I'd be looking ashtrays, I'd be I'd be jumping
in the Blagio fountain like it'd be.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
That's terrible. You want to know the point. You want
to know the ultimate point of that story. Maybe these
quarterbacks are red and black and evens and odds. You
don't have any Green on your team. Maybe your Green
is rehabbing.
Speaker 2 (59:02):
Or maybe you're green.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
Maybe your green is rehabbing. Maybe he's sitting there and
in the wings, he's getting healthy. Everybody's talking about all
these quarterbacks right here. What are you going to do
with her? These guys? He steady rehabbing, getting healthy, and
then he comes back like Superman in a in a
moment of glory and is now made whole with his
(59:29):
big contract and lives up to all of the expectations
he had coming in.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
The NFL's most expensive mentor.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
That would be an amazing That would be an amazing
storyline that developed. I tell you that
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