Best of the Week: 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys start off giving a quick recap of week 2 of the NFL season, then FOX Sports Football Rules Analyst Dean Blandino tells you why he’s done with the Tush-Push.  And The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks embarrassment happening across the LA Sports landscape. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
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are we feeling?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm feeling okay, you know, kind of trying to recover
still obviously was it with you guys. Friday was trying
to rest up a bit as my voice is just
hanging on by a thread. So it's been a lot
of time coming. But man, what a day of football yesterday.
That was awesome. Although I'll say this, how many surprises
were there as far as the outcomes, I can think

(01:42):
of one, maybe two for the rest of them. I
feel like the games kind of went about the way
I thought they're.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Going to go.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, fair to say, yeah, no, I think that's fair.
I think there's a couple of surprises. Maybe teams that
you look at and go through through two weeks, maybe
a little bit better then and a little bit worse
than you thought. You know, Indianapolis, and you know, I
think a lot of people look at Indianapolis.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
And no, no's yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
By the way, I don't think they've punted yet this season,
Like I don't think the Colts have punted yet, Like
I don't, I mean, I don't know, like they scored
on the first ten drives of the year, did the
Indianapolis Colts, And it just it feels like, you know,

(02:30):
Shane Steichen and Daniel Jones, and you know, we can
talk to Dean Blandino coming up tomorrow about the leverage
call that was called on the Denver Broncos that led
to the penalty and the and the kick there. But
it just feels like, yeah, there's not not a lot
of people saw that coming. I don't think there's many
people that are surprised by You're.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Right by the way they have not punted the season.
They turned it over on downs, but they have not
plutted this season so far.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's amazing games that punt team just collecting checks and
not not even on the field.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
That's sweet.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
So so yeah, I mean Indianapolis is definitely surprised. The
big game from yesterday obviously, was the Super Bowl rematch
between the Chiefs and the Eagles. Philly gets it done.
They pushed their way all the way to a win.
Yet again, did that game tell you more about where

(03:25):
Philly's at or tell you more about where Kansas City
is at?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Probably more Philly.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
And the reason why I said that is Kansas City's
missing Rashie Rice exam if you're worthy. I'm not trying
to give them a pass. But when you watch that offense.
It just it feels like they have no bite. They've
got no ability really to create much in the passing game.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
And granted this is a game that it.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Wasn't some sort of offensive explosion, but I look at
Kansas City and I kind of give them a bit
of a pass.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Like they're the O Way two team right now.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I'm looking at saying, well, if there's one team that's
zero and two that's gonna make the playoffs, that's where
I put my money.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
It's it's easy, buddy.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
But I mean, look, the last time they started out
oh two was twenty fourteen, then went nine at seven.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
They missed the playoffs that year. So maybe this is
a step.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Back here for the Kansasity Chiefs, and maybe they they've
got to start thinking about rebuilding.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
But I feel like.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I probably probably gave Kansaity more of a past. Learn
more about Philly. I mean, they've won what is the
seventh stray whatever, They're seventeen and one of their ust
eighteen games something like that. Really they're they're incredible. This
is this is a team that's built to win, and
we should talk to start talking about them about repeating
because that's a real possibility.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
It just feels like they know exactly who they are,
they know what they're gonna do. They're not gonna wow
you with a bunch of numbers and all that, and
they're you know, it's Nick siriannho made the common a
couple of years ago. It's first and nine and when
they get to short yarded situations, they're gonna use play
however you feel about it, and they're going to get
a first down or they're going to score, and they're

(05:04):
just going to grind you down. And that game yesterday,
look Kelsey dropping that ball. That was a critical mistake
in that game. It felt like Kansas City was going
into the end zone to score there and then all
of a sudden, it's an interception. It's headed back the
other way. And I do wonder about Kansas City because
it feels like it feels like the past more than

(05:28):
a year, the questions about the Chiefs have been more
about offense and it has defense.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Is that fair?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
And you can go back to the super Bowl last
year and you can go, well, they got blown out
in the super Bowl. But even though it wasn't like
you know, Philly was totally dominant on offense, there was
a couple of explosive plays that DeVante Smith touchdown was
one of them, but that pick six before halftime was
it was a huge mistake. It just it feels like

(05:56):
the Kansas City concerns are more on the offensive side
of the ball, and that's been going on for a
while now. And I don't know if you chalk that
up to injuries or what, but it just feels like
this is not the same explosive offensive team that we've
seen in previous years with Patrick Mahomes and those guys.
And I don't know if it's age, I don't know

(06:17):
what it is, but it just feels like there's a
different vibe around this team than there has been a
year's past.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
So the one thing I kind of look at with
Kansas City that is always concerning is they've never really
developed a run game that's consistent. I mean, if you
want to look at the contrast, and we could look at,
you know, last year's Super Bowl, we could look at
these two teams and simply say this, Philly, when they
need to make throws, they can.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
And I know Jaylor Hurts didn't have a prolific.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Day yesterday, barely threw over one hundred yards you know,
probably with sacks, and you know it took away from that.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
But when they need to make throws, he does.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
You know, They've got Saquon, They've got aj Dillon, They've
got Hurts who could run the football too. They can
push you around up front, and they can rely on
the running game and good defense. There's never really that
style of play from Kansas City that I think they
can win with. Like that's the one thing that I
look at and say, all right with Mahomes is off
or if they're going to play, you know, a bunch

(07:17):
of different coverage types to really force the issue and
dare Kansas City to run they just don't have it. Man,
when Patch Mahomes is your leading rusher who more than
doubled with your next player running back was able to accumulate,
that's a problem. So I don't know if it's more
of a matter of missing up front with who they

(07:38):
brought in and the look at guys who are you know,
maybe a little better at protecting or just saying hey,
we're okay with.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Not being able to run the footballs effectively.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
But but I look at it yesterday as an example
of where this league's going right now. You know, we
talked about like the value of the running backs, and
you know, maybe the value of them is starting to
skyrocket again because.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
You've got so many teams who are starting.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
To pay some of these guys because they see the
value and be able to consistently run the football. Kansas
City doesn't do that. It's almost like they have it adapted.
They have it adjusted what everyone else has, or at
least so the top teams have. So that's my big concerntive.
If I'm looking at Kansas City critically, it's I don't
know if you'd say they rely on Patrick Mahomes the

(08:22):
passing game too much, but they sure as heck don't
care about running the football, and they need to start
caring about that otherwise they're gonna go nine at seven
and we sitting outside looking in like they did in
twenty fourteen.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, maybe the running back is back. You know,
all that conversation about you know, one of these guys
are going to become a factor. It's like, you know,
Green Bay's the other team you look at, and there's
no question that you know, when the weather changes and
it gets to the postseason, they'll just hand the ball
off to Josh Jacobs, like if they need to, they
can grind out games with him. But Kansas City doesn't

(08:55):
feel like they have that guy now. Patrick Mahomes did
talk afterwards their leading sure the best running back on
the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes spoke afterwards about the Kelsey turnover
in that moment in the game.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean we got the defense that we wanted.
You know, we expect him to play that zero zero
with the whole player with the safety I just got.
I think I threw put as a tad too early,
you know, just trying to put on his body low
before that whole player got there. And I think if
I can put it more on his body and not
so far out in front of him, then he can
catch it, take the hit and get in the end
zone and throw a.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Little bit low with the goal line that just like
that across the inside.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Yeah, you want to put it low, just but more
on his body. You know, whenever you're in those tight
quarters like that, you want to give it to him,
especially a bigger guy, more on his body he can
catch it. Brace for that contact. We knew the whole
player be looking for him. I mean that's one of
our big targets down there in the red zone, and
so get he was breaking to kind of make a
hit and it was just unfortunate bounced up in the
air and went right to him.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, not ideal. If you had the Chiefs plus one
and a half, that's not not a great spot to
be in. The bright side is if they're looking for
somebody to on the ball, why don't you just give
it to Josh Simmons Because that play he made chasing
down that interception was really that was really impressive. That
was really impressive. And I know Pete Prisco's coming up

(10:11):
an hour three. He was a Josh Simmons fan and
spoke highly of him afterwards. I'm sure he's going to
use that as more proof that, you know, he's always
on the right side of things. But yeah, I don't know, man,
It just it doesn't feel like the same the same
team that we've seen in previous years. And maybe this

(10:33):
is just the end of the end of the I
don't know, the dynasty, the end of the era for
the Kansas City Chiefs, and this is just more than
likely how it goes because we can point to the
Patriots and their dominance that they had for all the
years that they had it. But there was a time
there where the Patriots went about a decade between super bowls.

(10:54):
So like the exception and the rule, this this is
more like what we see from dynasties when it starts
to starts to fade away. The exception is New England
and what they did with two different times that they
were able to make championship runs and hold that thing
together for twenty years. They've been doing this for you know,
the better part of a decade, and maybe this is

(11:16):
you know, we're at the point to where you know,
it starts to starts to fade away a little bit here,
I think.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I think the other thing you have to acknowledge is
I've said this before, and I'm not sure it landed
the way I wanted it to, at least when when
var was with us. The AFC West is a much
more difficult division than the AFCAST. For as great as it
was a run for the Patriots, if we're being honest,
you know, the Bills hadn't gotten Josh Allen yet really,

(11:42):
at least not into his prime.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
You know, the Dolphins were not really competitive. You look
at the Jets.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
The Jets were, you know, outside of that run with
Mangini for a small a short period of time, even
with you know, Rex Ryan, I guess you could say too,
weren't overly competitive, like that was a division that they
were able to dominate partly because it was an EPT.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
You look at the s AFC West.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
They've got a Denver Broncos team that thinks, you know,
highly effective and will be as a bright future with
Bo Nicks. So the pieces there bill to with Sean
Payton obviously, the Chargers, who already beat this Kansasity Chiefs
team in Week one in Brazil. That's a team to
look out for. It looks like a playoff team. You know,
you kind of start to go through the division, just say,
all right, even I think you'd admit the Raiders have

(12:32):
been better this year than what maybe what we thought.
So I look at the division as a whole and
just say, even if you wanted to try to compare
them to what the Patriots were, this is a much
tougher road just to win the division than what Todd Brady,
Bill Belichick had battle.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, because it was always new England was going to
have a buy in the playoffs and all they had
to do was win two games and they were back
in a super Bowl. And now you know, the Chiefs
might have to go on the road. They might have
to you know, be a wild card team to depending
on how the division goes. Yeah, it's I mean, the
AFC East was awful, Like they were really bad for
a long time. And it's almost like the Bills.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Those are the pre dildo days. Yeah, at least you know,
it was until the very end.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, that was way way back before the og of
the dildo on the field the Buffalo Bills, which by
the way, they missed their opportunity to.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
We had one since Yeah, yeah, we tumble down onto
the field.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Neon Green again, I'm assuming was the I did not
see video, but I just saw somebody tweet about it
and say, Okay, well I guess, you know, I guess
that's what we're gonna do. It was still doing. People
don't know that the joke is over and it trun its.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Core bend over end though is the throw was the
technique and it hit on the tip and it continued
to bounce a little bit.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
That's rough.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, that's a that's a rough way to go I
would imagine, you know, if you'd want to do it,
you want to throw a spiral, that would be That
would be my my assumption, Like if you were going
to throw a illdo on the field, that you would
go spiral. I know that you were very classy and
doing so. Asking Dean Blandino last week about how he
would pick it up off the field as an official,

(14:09):
which I don't think people thought Dean was going to
answer that the way that he did, but he just
rolled right with it, and uh.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Well, I also would like to point out that he
is absolutely full of crap. There's not a designated official.
Every single time we've seen one of these, it's someone
from security.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
It just so happened.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
One of the clips, unfortunately, showed a guy with his
ass crack out who was picking it up, which I
can't think of a worse Look, Oh, you can't have
your ass cracked out and you're picking up a dildo
off the field, which is That's that says way too
many things potentially be going on and people are going.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
To jump to conclusions about you as an individual if
that's the case, Like, you know, was his ass crack
hanging out intentionally or was that something that that was
by accident as he's picking up the dildo. Yeah no,
I'm with you. That's that's not a way to go.
But what is a way to go is the Filmladelphia
Eagles are now two and oho on the season. They

(15:03):
have seemingly lost in a long ass time and it
doesn't look like they're gonna slow down anytime soon. So
good game for Philly. Kansas City's got to get a
rally and try and figure things out moving forward, and
who knows, maybe they'll get healthier and we'll see Josh
Shimmons in the backfield. If they'll loot for a running game,
that might be something.

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Speaker 2 (16:00):
Right now, we welcome in Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL
college football rules analysts. You can get them on x
at Dean Blandino. Dean, good morning. How are we feeling
doing good?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Doing good?

Speaker 8 (16:11):
How you guys doing good?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Man?

Speaker 4 (16:13):
We're good. Now.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
We have it on good authority that you're sick and
tired of hearing about the tush push.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
So what's the way is that that's what's going on?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
What's the Oh my god, what's bothering you?

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Dean.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
I've gone on record. I don't love the play. Whatever
great Eagles are do it better than anybody else. They
work at it, they practice good for them. I'm just
you know, we had the game in Kansas City, obviously
Super Bowl rematch. This is like, this is the biggest
early game of the year so far, the two teams,

(16:47):
the whole deal, and we're watching, quite frankly, just the
crappiest football play. We got false starts, we got off sides,
we got all kinds of crap on this play and
no calls and it's just not I just don't like
it and finally just got set up and you know,
I just said, I'm done with the touch push guys.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
That was it.

Speaker 8 (17:08):
Tom Brady was like, Brady was like giving me the
thumbs up. He's like yeah, he goes. He's like, you
tell him go. I'm like, yeah, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
In all seriousness, it feels like, let's just go back
to the genesis of like why this play is even allowed.
So you guys did away with the whole you know,
pushing an eighty runner because you feel like you could
officiate it properly correct.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
Yeah, that's what happened back in oh five, and so
this had been illegal forever and then there and it
wasn't it right. This play didn't exist, right, This didn't
exist until the Eagles started doing it. Whenever twenty one,
it was twenty two, and so there was there was
some plays, especially near the goal line, where the runner
would get hit stacked up and you've got a big

(17:54):
pile and the linemen are pushing both. You know, defense
is pushing, offenses pushing, and it was a harder play
to officiate, and you just never the officials just didn't
call it. So and in hindsight, it was a mistake,
like my in my view, it was a mistake to
take that out and it was fine until until you

(18:16):
know that now we get this play, which is a
pretty easy play to officiate. If you took it out,
you couldn't be pretty easy to say, you okay, you
know they're they're pushing. It's a foul. And maybe look,
maybe they take it out in the off season. We'll
see and then teams do something else. You never know,
but yeah, you just you just never know what's going

(18:38):
to happen. But in hindsight, it was a mistake to
take that out.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
Dan, I gotta ask this, and I know you know
the answer to it because I've been around you when
you were in office and you were active and you
had your remote control. As I always bring up, which
I thought is super crazy cool, Why are you guys,
why why do the decision maker allow the lineman to
run a muck? And I believe what I saw on Sunday,

(19:06):
they are running way more a muck than what I've
seen in prior years. Like I saw guys literally beer
hugging guys from behind like the guy was about to
go make a play. The lineman puts his arms around
him his arms and poolsing from behind. I've seen some

(19:28):
of the most. I mean, it's it's upsetting for me
as a defender. It's upsetting to see it. How is this?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
How? How is like?

Speaker 9 (19:38):
What are the conversations with these referees in allowing these
linemen to just hold at basically any cost, any angle,
any anything, and it not get called.

Speaker 8 (19:52):
Well, yeah, no, it's a great point. I do think
in recent years there has been this push and they
won't out and say it, but to less flags, right
and and and it's been and people think, oh, you know,
that was such a great game. There was no flags,
there was no and and and it and there's less stoppages,

(20:13):
which is good. But when you have that kind of
mindset and then you know, you know you played you
know where. Okay, if they're gonna let us play today,
and that's that, you know we're gonna let them play today,
you know you can probably push the envelope and get
away with a little more. And right now, that's what's happening. Okay,
I'm not getting flag, Okay, I'm gonna try to gain

(20:35):
an advantage and and that's what's happening. And look the
gap I don't think you guys probably know better than me.
But the gap between offensive line play and offensive linemen
and and the defensive line, I don't think it's ever
been greater in terms of athleticism and everything else. And
so they're already out of they're already out of deficiency.
And now you know they're they're they're doing their best

(20:57):
to try to you know, just just even the playes.

Speaker 9 (21:00):
Go ahead, let them hold them because you're just not
as an athletic guys.

Speaker 8 (21:04):
You can't and and that, and that's not right. Right.
You said you got to call it when it's there.
You got to call it because if you don't, it's
just going to get worse and worse. And then that,
you know, and then defensive players get frustrated, and then
it turns into other stuff that you got to kind
of you got to handle one. And that's not good
for the game either.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. It's
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, two
pros and a cup of Joe on FSR. I do
want to ask you at the leveraging call that Denver
got called for that ultimately led to the rekick in
Indianapolis winning that game. So what what is the rule?

(21:43):
What was the infraction? You just you can't use the
the person on the line to propel yourself. Is that
basically sort of the gist of out the rule works.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
Yeah, you can't. You can't put either your hands your arms.
You can't push off, whether it's a teammate or or
an opponent. You can't push off to gain height to
block the kick. Now that look, I think, I think
that's if you watch it like I can see. Okay, Yeah,
by rule, that's a foul. It happens a lot and

(22:17):
doesn't get called, and that's such a big play. I
think the legal support that call I had. Teump Payton
texted me yesterday. I hadn't seen the play, but he
asked me if it was a foul, and when I
looked at it, I said, they're going to support it
because he did put his left hand down, he pushed off,
and he did propel himself. And so that is the rule. Again,

(22:37):
you don't see it called all that often, but that's
obviously a huge call in the game.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Indeed, you were with was it Tom and the Crew
this week? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (22:47):
Yeah, he was with me. He was with me?

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, straight, did you actually did you go to the
RV trailer thing? Did you guys going there?

Speaker 8 (23:01):
I haven't been in it yet. I haven't been in
it yet.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
No, but you know about it, don't you?

Speaker 8 (23:05):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 8 (23:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (23:08):
What is Q? What's he getting? What is Q into?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
He's he travels around in a like a luxury mobile.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Hole.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
Yeah, it's not every week, but there is. Yeah, and
it has like all like I would do it too
with it because it has all you know, it's like
it's like an extension of his home. He's comfortable. Yeah.
I haven't been in it yet, though, you know, I
kind of I'm a man, a man of the people,
A man of the people. I stay. We got to
stay in the four seasons, all right, I'll stay in

(23:40):
the four seasons, all right?

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yes, that sounds like a big struggle there. State of
the four seasons?

Speaker 9 (23:46):
Tang dang? What what jumped out at you this weekend?
Like when you're watching it? Obviously again I said, it's
hard to watch as a civilian once you've seen it
the way that you're going to see, whether it's a player,
whether it's doing it as a rules expert, and calls.
What what did you see this weekend that jumped off

(24:06):
the screen that was like worth committing to memory for you.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
Well, obviously look our game Chiefs Eagles. It was it
was both defenses were really dominating the game. We talked
about the Sosh push, we talked about the alignment, those
types of things. Then you watch a game like like
Dallas and the Giants and there was no defense in
the second half and it was just like a shootout
and it was it was a crazy game. I think again,

(24:30):
like we talked about last week, we're still the football
isn't isn't top notch. Yet It'll get there, you know,
Week four, Week five. You know, from an officiating perspective,
I think they're you know, they have to. They're going
to continue to emphasize the sportsmanship, ship stuff and the
and the taunting and those types of things. Ce d
Lamb in that game, right, Giants had three I haven't

(24:51):
seen that in a long time. Giants had three fouls
on one play and then Ceedee Lamb got up and
got in somebody's face and and and that offset all
of it, which is which is the right the right rule?
But so I just think those are things that players
are going to have to continue to uh you know,
make sure they they just because those penalties are big

(25:12):
in the game.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
As an official, when did you feel like you were
all right, we've got the early Are we talking like
week three, week four? You feel like everybody's starting to
kind of come into their own as.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
Far as Yeah, I think I think by week three,
week four, probably week four. Again, it's look, when I
remember when I first started at the league office, I mean,
the preseason was legit like and and so I think
it was earlier, right because they were playing four preseason games.
Your started like that. That third preseason game was like
a regular season game for for a lot of teams

(25:44):
almost you know, two and a half three quarters. So
I think now it does probably get through the first
month of the season and then teams know, Okay, this
is who we are and what we're good at and
uh and and I think it gets better from there.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I keep looking at passing interference. I feel like it's
obviously the way you're rewarded on the offense makes us
so impactful in games. But also I feel like we're
getting to a point where it just I don't know,
let's get a little touchy out there, you know what
I'm saying, Like, I feel like we're calling it or
more apt to call it than not. And I'm not

(26:20):
asking if the officials are being coach different about this.
I just feel like, are they cognizant of how much
this could turn a game or change your drive?

Speaker 8 (26:28):
But just I think they are. It's a bit right
when you get a thirty yard penalty, it's an underthrown ball.
Sometimes right, it's it's it's a big big it's a
big call, and they are coached. And I remember Maurica
talks when when John Fox when he was at the
Panthers and then at the Bears, and he used to
complain about past and appearances. He said something that always

(26:49):
stuck with me. He's like, he's like, the event to
passenger should call itself. And I kind of always thought
that was a good way of looking at it, because
you should jump out right, it should be obvious. These
are big penalties and you want to you know, we
talk about hand fighting if they're if they're jockeying for position.
You know, receivers are just as handy too, and you
can't let them get away with stuff. So but you

(27:11):
wanted to really call itself. And I like the rule
because I feel like it versus the college rule because
if you took away that, if you went to more
of a college rule. Right, these dbs are so good,
you're gonna you're gonna really hurt the deep passing game
and they're going to play really aggressively in that game
and say, okay, I'll give up the fifteen versus versus

(27:31):
a thirty yard play. And so I like where it is.
But I do think the officials have You just have
to continue to be consistent, not not called tiki tech
stuff because like you said, it's a big it's a
big penalty in the game.

Speaker 9 (27:44):
Personal opinion is Kansas City or are they on the decline?
Or you know, just sign it in person? What is
the runover?

Speaker 8 (27:54):
We talked about it yesterday and I think, look, that
defense is great. They you know you fags is incredible.
You know their defensive coordinator, Steve Spagnolo. I think, let's
see who they are when they get rushy, right. You
know zab Worthy was out, Yes, it was that on Sunday.

(28:16):
It just looked like they weren't you know, Mahomes didn't
have a ton of options, people getting open for him.
He was doing more with his legs. Obviously scored a
touchdown a rushing TV So I want to see them
at full strength on offense because that defense is going
to keep them in games. So I don't think it's
over yet. I would never count them out.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's
Fox Sports NFL College Football rules Analyst. Where do you
stand on targeting in college football? There was, you know,
we see it seemingly every week. LSU had a player ejected,
but on the broadcast I think it was Sean McDonough said, well,
you know he's he's the new change this year. He's

(28:59):
a lot to stay on the sidelines for the rest
of the game. It's like, okay, well that helps, But like,
where do you stand in general on how targeting is
handled in college football?

Speaker 8 (29:09):
Yeah, I think the rule has done its job. I
think when it first went in, you know, targeting is
two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, and the
hits that you saw then you don't see anymore. So
I think it's done its job. But I think we
got to look at the rule because the game is
evolved and players have done a great job. Coaches, everybody's
done a really good job. Now we got to look

(29:29):
at the rule. To me, I really do think the
disqualification is it's too punitive because there's different layers of targeting.
You could see, right, you can see a targeting and go, yeah, okay,
that's that's a foul by rule. And now now if
it's in the third quarter, guess what you're missing the
rest of this game in the first half of the
next game, that's such a big penalty. I think we

(29:49):
got to get to can we get Okay, there are
some hits that should be fifteen yard penalties, but not
the disqualification. I think that's the next iteration of this rule.
And I'm part of the rules committee in college football,
so so you know, we're going to look at that
and hopefully we can get the rules committee and the people,
you know, the powers that be on board with Hey,

(30:11):
these are not their penalties, but they shouldn't be disqualifications.
And I think we got to look at that that
going forward.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Did you get some Italian when you guys were in
Kansas City?

Speaker 8 (30:22):
Did see that again?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Did you get some Italian while you guys were in
Kansas City?

Speaker 5 (30:27):
Arc.

Speaker 8 (30:27):
Of course, of course we went to and I'm not
it's not going to be a great promo because I
already forgot the name of it. But they we stayed
at the Lows where the Eagles were staying, so we
got we got some big domb time, which was great
and uh, speaking of Italians, so that's yeah, that's the
Italian that I got. But we had some good food

(30:49):
and we ate. We Travis and and Patrick are part
of like they're they're involved with this restaurant that was
just opened up, opening up a.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, the fifth fifteen to eighty seven steakhouse, I believe, yep, it.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Looks to be a good spot real quick. Though. On
the Dob front, do you kind.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Of look at like his role with it the Eagles
that feel like most teams should have someone but I
feel like they do, but it's not to the extent
that Dobb's able to, you know, kind of control the sidelines,
control the team and all the stuff that goes on.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
Well everybody, you know, every team has somebody like that.
I think Dobb, who's awesome, by the way, who's I
think she's become and not And when you talk to him,
he doesn't like he just he doesn't want the spotlight.
He doesn't, but I think it finds him. And so
now that people know, you know, you have the situation

(31:44):
with the Niners where he got thrown out of the
game and with I think it was green Law, and
so now it's kind of like people recognize him and
it's almost like the camera finds him and I think
we just see him more like you saw him on
the broadcast, you know, when when Sirianni was going going
a halftime and John with the officials a little bit

(32:05):
and Dom was there. So everybody has a Dom, but
I think Dom is just more, you know, he's more known,
and at this point, I think the camera just just
tends to find him.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
He's good Penn stater.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
He is a stater.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Dean always appreciate it. Man, Thanks so much for the time.
And I felt like we kept it a little more
classy this week, more professional.

Speaker 8 (32:30):
Yeah, there was no no dildo talk, thanks guys.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
I was going to point out though there was a
dildo throat.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
I believe it was the Bengals game Brady has Brady
has like it at his home like a dildo counter,
and every time any game and for North American professional Sports.
He's going to branch out here as well. But when
a bildo was thrown, it like goes off and it's like, oh,
we got one, and we got one.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
In it's actually called the dildo doppler. He definitely keeps
looking for it, but just thoughts on that, indeed, you
lied to us the last time we had you on,
you said there was one official responsible for I haven't
seen it. One official pick one up the entire time.
It's usually some guys showed his ass crack, which is

(33:16):
also a bad to.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Pick up a dial though, But that's for another another day.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
Exactly exactly, all right, guys, time ago, all right.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
All right, there he is Dean Blandino with us here.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
All lies.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Abort mission.

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Speaker 2 (33:47):
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Speaker 5 (33:51):
He did win with intro song?

Speaker 4 (33:53):
He did?

Speaker 5 (33:53):
He did win? He did?

Speaker 9 (33:54):
All right, yeah, you did win with this intro, So
go ahead, jon what were you saying?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Four hundred pound?

Speaker 9 (34:00):
Yeah, it is for seventy five the Largest. He said
it he ain't lyingy.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
The Old P.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Petros Papadakis, Yes, he is a co host of the
pet Funny Show, which you can hear on the Largest
to five seventy l A sports a Fox College football analyst,
and you can get him on X at the Old P.
Good morning, So Hello, Hello, Hello, how we feel Petros?

(34:31):
Are the Panic Brothers out yet? For the Dodgers struggles
lines against the Phillies.

Speaker 10 (34:37):
It's pretty bad. I mean the Dodgers' bullpen is really bad.
I mean the starters are great and they go scoreless
and then the bullpen just blows it. The Phillies are
a lot like the Dodgers. They hit a lot of
home runs and they bonk those balls out of there
late in the game extras two nights ago. Last night,

(35:01):
the Dodgers blew it again in the ninth. I wouldn't
say the Panic Brothers are out. I mean, the Panic
Brothers have been out, but I would say that they
have to go to the wild Card and it's not
going to be an easy path to the World Series
if they're.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Gonna make it back, and we need the money.

Speaker 10 (35:19):
So we'll see how it plays out, but it is
interesting to watch because, I mean, people said the Dodgers
were going to win one hundred and twenty games. They
was supposed to be the greatest baseball team of all time.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Who said that? Jo who said that.

Speaker 10 (35:39):
There's a lot of articles in town and the LA
Times and stuff with the way they built the team
going into the season, and when they started, I think
they were like eight to o, nine to oh. It
looked like they weren't going to lose a game all year,
and it certainly didn't play out like that. I mean,
they'd been competitive and good and they probably will still
win the division, but we'll see what happens without that

(36:01):
bye week. Maybe it'll be good for him without the
bye week.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Who knows.

Speaker 10 (36:04):
But their bullpen is terrible, and it's hard to know
what's gonna happen with any of these guys. Tanner, Scott, Kirby, Yates,
all these guys they signed the offseason. They're getting their
boobs scooped out like Basking Robbins every time they go pitch.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
N I mean, they're really getting their tease lit, if
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, taking Otani out with
a no hitter going that lamb with you.

Speaker 10 (36:32):
Well, you know they took out Todd of glass now
the other night with a no hitter in like the
seventh Yeah, and he was like, you know, well.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
I understood why they're took me out. I've been hurt.
It's like, don't you want to pitch a no hitter? Any?
I mean, I I don't know, but whatever. I mean.
We're waiting for the playoffs.

Speaker 10 (36:52):
They all have bigger fish to fry with the great
football season underway, and we'll see what happens in the
wildcard round. We'll gear up and it all excited about it.
I don't know if they'll send me wharring out that
I have a new boss now. If the Dodgers lose
early in the playoffs, usually I have to really hore
it out, like like do a lot of BJ's shows
and things of that nature to.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Make who's your new boss?

Speaker 10 (37:17):
A guy named Brian lay Long, good man, he's fabulous.
But when our old boss Don Martin. You know, if
the Dodgers lost the doll playoffs, yeah, which they did
for a long time, Uh, then I have to put
on my silk stockings and get my leg out in
the gutter tank and make some money in the final
quarter of the business year.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
But this year I don't have to. We'll see. We'll
see what happened.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
By the way, who is that and the fine pizza?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh oh, that's the one year the Dodgers got eliminated.
You guys got are doing impromptu Uh oh yeah, that party.

Speaker 10 (37:51):
Yeah, we had to do it like a prisoner. We
got to make up one hundred and twelve twenty thousand dollar.
Y'all are going to do a Christmas party at Tarantula.
It's going to be mostly average base.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (38:02):
Well, so we'll see what happens this year. But it's
always it's not just a job, it's an adventure.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
Oh God, that is hilarious. Go go, go cue.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I was going to transition from that job to a
job that is now opened as the head coach of UCLA.
I just take me through the timing of all this, Petros,
because it feels a bit early to just kind of
throw the towel on a guy who I get it.
His opening press conference could have got any worse. But
that team did improve the second half of last year.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
They did. Why no grace given to Deshaun Foster to
start this year That's an interesting question.

Speaker 10 (38:41):
I think that UCLA was in a big, big problem
a couple of years ago. At the end of the year,
UCLA finished like seventy seven and five when they very
easily could have been you know, like ten and and
and and two, and the fan base was really really

(39:03):
frustrated and everybody wanted chip Kelly fired, and Martin Jarmond,
the ad UCLA, didn't do anything.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
He just didn't do anything.

Speaker 10 (39:15):
And chip Kelly went on to beat Boise State in
the LA Bowl and they finished with eight wins, and
nothing happened. Chip Kelly wasn't recruiting, he wasn't motivated, he
was not getting along with anybody at the university. So
at that point, if you're Martin Jarmond, you either find

(39:39):
a way to get along with your multimillion dollar head coach,
find a way to make the relationship work. Is that
as your job as the athletic director, or fire him.
And he didn't do either. He didn't fire him, he
didn't repair the relationship. Next thing, you know, chip Kelly
takes a better job that happens to be the coordinator

(40:02):
job at Ohio State, and then they go on to
win the national title. And now he's getting paid even
more to call plays for the Raiders. Three field goals
worth last.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
On Monday Night. So they Martin Jarman dropped the ball.

Speaker 10 (40:19):
With the relationship with Chip Kelly. So then what did
they do next? You know, there was timing was weird,
but he still didn't lift a finger. And they hired
DeShawn Foster. They're running back coach UCLA legend, a guy
that I played a lot of football against when I
was a kid. De'shaun Foster, great guy, Brewin, legend, good recruiter,

(40:42):
I guess, running back coach, But nobody would have hired
Deshaun Foster to even be a coordinator, let alone be
a head coach. It's just no one else, whatever you
think about Deshon Foster, no one else was going to
hire DeShawn Foster. So now Martin Jarman hires DeShawn. Deshaun
was clearly and you just mentioned the big ten thing,

(41:04):
he was clearly uncomfortable doing the job.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
He was aloof He.

Speaker 10 (41:09):
Was unhappy answering questions about anything, which is fine if
you win games. They did improve a little bit last year,
ended up losing to USC and didn't make a Bowl game.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
But you're right.

Speaker 10 (41:24):
The team looked like they wouldn't win a game to
start the year, and they did get a little better.
But this year, you know, it's one thing to have
Utah come out and beat you in game one, but
you lose back to back games to Mountain West teams
and the Rose Bowl is empty, which it always is anyway.
Now that's a real big problem. So they went ahead

(41:45):
and fired him, and they have Tim Skipper, who was
a good interim, well, a serviceable interim, knows how to
do it. He did it last year at Fresno because
Jeff Tedford's health problems caused him to step down. So
it's just been overall a very very mismanaged situation, and

(42:05):
Deshaun did himself no favors to start this season off
pissing off the very soft LA media. And you know,
if you piss off the media early in the season,
you build no equity with them, and you lose two
Mountain West games.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
They were going to pile on him, and.

Speaker 10 (42:22):
They did, so he ends up making seventeen million dollars
in a job that no one else would have hired
him to do, and now no one has any confidence
in the ad everybody wants him fired, so who's going
to hire the next head coach? Plus the fact, and
I saw this text or.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Email or whatever it is a.

Speaker 10 (42:40):
Tweet from Josh Pate, an ex post the college football.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Expert, and what he said was painfully true.

Speaker 10 (42:50):
Most of the people getting mentioned for the UCLA job
have better jobs, and most.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Of them are coordinator jobs.

Speaker 10 (42:58):
UCLA is in a tough spot, and there are solutions
for the UCLA football program, but they're dramatic solutions, and
a lot of people on the West Coast like see
this as karma because they feel like UCLA was one
of the one of the deciding factors in ruining the
Pac twelve.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
The deciding factor in ruining.

Speaker 10 (43:18):
The Pac twelve was Larry Scott, who drove the thing
into the ground for a decade plus. But there is
no doubt that UCLA is a national embarrassment and they're
supposed to be a lot better at football, or they're
pay more attention to football than they don't.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I'm sorry to follow up, but I would love to
know you know there there moved to the Big ten,
has netted the more money on the TV media rights deal,
So why have they not been able to apply that
more to sports. It seems like they don't have a collective.
They haven't done very well and being able to kind
of build that up if they're I guess alumni and

(43:54):
fan base is so robust and they can complain about
the move to the Big Ten. Why can't they stop
bitching and why can't they step up and support their
sports programs?

Speaker 10 (44:04):
Well, I mean, I think it goes first of all,
UCLA hoops is doing fine, right, Mick Cronin and men's basketball,
which they are blue blood. There's no doubt the history
of John Wooden, the Jim Herrick Championship. Mick Cronan's doing great.
He doesn't have a problem raising money for NIL and

(44:24):
he is the best, one of the best college coaches
on the West Coast in any sport. So he's been
able to transcend the athletic departments in aptitude. The football
program has not. And you're right, Brady, they have a
big earner in their football program, and yet they don't
know how to utilize it and how to capitalize on it.

(44:48):
And that's well, It's been a long time thing at UCLA.
Even when I was younger, the UCLA mantra was look
at how many championships we have in all these sports,
you know, high jump, women's volleyball, you know, all this
different stuff, which is great, But all of those sports

(45:10):
exist because of your football program.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
All of those.

Speaker 10 (45:14):
Sports exist because football makes money and funds everything else.
So show special attention to the football program. If you're
playing football at UCLA, because of the pecking order of
the world of athletics and who makes money, you should
probably feel a little bit more important than the women's
softball team, which is just the softball team, because they

(45:36):
don't play men's softball, so why don't they? And that's
always been a problem.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
There.

Speaker 10 (45:42):
The other problem, and I had a big thing on
the show yesterday about it, is their stadium. I mean
just the Rose Bowl is empty. Big stadium is.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
Not Rosel Petros. It's so I mean, credible.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Well, you're right, it's a great the parking lot that
surrounds it.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Have I ever told you this story, by the way, No, My.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Sister used to tell me she always used to go
run the Rose Bowl people. Yeah, well exactly, but I thought,
like she got inside to the stadium and ran up
the stairs and ran exactly. I didn't know this, so
I go to the Rose Bowl and I'm like trying
to get inside. They're like, yeah, no, people just run outside.
I was like, in the parking lot. Yeah yeah, people

(46:27):
people just are running outside around the stadium.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
This stupid.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I just drove forty five minutes out of my way
to go run in a parking lot.

Speaker 10 (46:36):
Well, it's not just the parking lot, it's the Historica
royos haicle.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Oh it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (46:43):
The Rose Bull is a great surface, it's a great
college football venue, but it's a terrible optical thing for UCLA,
and it's terrible for recruiting, and it's terrible for advertising,
and it's terrible for business that they just can't fill it.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
They can't fill it halfway.

Speaker 10 (46:58):
The last guy and I used to get a sixty
eight thousand fan attendance pretty regularly throughout my childhood and
all that. Terry Donahue, Bob Toledo, Jim Mora with Brett Huntley.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
I mean, they got.

Speaker 10 (47:13):
People in there, but now that ship has sailed post pandemic,
the dream of getting sixty thousand people at the Rose
Bowl is over. They're on the quarter system. As a school,
the kids, the kids need to be able to walk
over to the game agreed, and going to SOFI would

(47:33):
not solve that problem. The drive from Inglewood to Westwood
is not much better than the drive from Westwood to Pasadena.
I mean it's really not, especially once you get into
Inglewood and try to get into that stadium and they wouldn't.
It doesn't solve the problem. Now they should. I know
that they're supposed to be historically a bigger program than

(47:54):
these teams I'm about to mention, but they should follow this.
I mean, they won't do it because it's a UC
system and everybody's too stupid and everybody sucks. But they
need to follow the formula of Houston, who was swallowed up.
Their atmosphere was swallowed up and no one cared about
Houston football playing in the Astrodome. Then they move I

(48:16):
think it was to Robertson Stadium, closer to campus, case
Keenum and stuff like that. They have success, and now
they've built another on campus stadium, and obviously they've moved
up into the Big twelve and Willie Fritz is there.
And then speaking of will and they've transformed the identity
of their program with two lane played in the Superdome

(48:36):
from the seventies for like thirty plus years, swallowed up
by the Superdome. None of the kids that go to
Tulane in the Garden District in New Orleans would travel
down and go to the games in the city. None
of them. It was swallowed up. Their atmosphere was swallowed up.
They built an on campus stadium thirty thousand seats, two

(48:59):
lane out in fifteen minutes for games. Two lane football
is once again Willie Fritz showed up there, won one
hundred games. They beat USC in a Cotton Bowl, and
they just beat Duke at home in front of thirty
thousand two lane fans. Their program has been transferred to
transformed the identity of it because they built an on campus,

(49:22):
smaller stadium and created some atmosphere. UCLA has an on
campus stadium that they could redo Drake. The kids could
walk over. Now you mentioned the Rose Bowl in its
history and all that, Brady Fine. Every other year they
and they still have a contract with the Rose Bowl
to like three thousand, the year three thousand, so play

(49:46):
USC every other year at the Rose Bowl. When Ohio
State comes out here to play play in the Rose Bowl, Michigan,
Penn State, whatever, Big ten Super King comes out, then fine,
play play them the Rose Bowl, but the other five
or six home games, play them at home. Given a
shot in the arm for Westwood Village and the eateries

(50:07):
and all the stuff there that's been destroyed by the pandemic.
It used to be a thriving university community. It's not
so much anymore. And I think that would solve a
lot of their problems. But they're too stupid. I mean,
I didn't even know who they're going to hire to
be the head coach. But I do feel like an
on campus stadium like Houston has done, like Tulane has done,

(50:30):
would really and they have it there, would really solve
a lot of UCLA's problems because I just in the
modern times in Los Angeles, nobody's getting in the car
to drive to these games. And it's a terrible look
for their program that there's literally like twelve thousand people
there in one hundred thousand seat stadium. It's just it's

(50:53):
a very hard thing to overcome for them. So I
think they need to do that, and it Roy Aikman
has been saying they need to do it for years.
It's not like a new idea, but now is the
time to change the landscape, and I just don't think
they have the leadership within the athletic department to do it.
A lot of people also blame the old chancellor at UCLA,

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Gene Block, who's.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Not there anymore.

Speaker 10 (51:16):
They think of a new chancellor, Julio Frank I think
is his name, and Block, you know, kind of wasn't that.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Into sports, and it shows anyway, that's the answer. You know.

Speaker 9 (51:28):
What's curious about what you said in terms of not
being smart enough. UCLA basically says they take the players that,
uh well, would make it into USC. And that's that's
what separates the two.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
You know.

Speaker 9 (51:42):
They yeah, they don't. They don't want the guys that
can make it into USC. They want the guys that
can go to use that. I mean, that's always living
out here. That's kind of like a running joke, Like
that's like a running thing, like you guys won't take
the best athletes.

Speaker 10 (51:55):
Yes, I mean I got into Berkeley, but probably wouldn't
have got.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Into UCLA, which is crazy.

Speaker 10 (52:00):
Yeah, which is ben Berkeley. I mean, they're they're very
similar schools. But Berkeley's a pretty reputable academic institution, and
you know, it's funny how Stanford like wouldn't even look
at my transcript, and USC said it they had some
problems with it. At UCLA was like, no effing way,
that's crazy. Yeah, it is interesting. You know, that's kind

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of changed the academic part of it. I mean, Nico
Iamaliava got a couple fs at at Long Beach, Polly,
and he still ended up in college.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Right.

Speaker 9 (52:32):
And speaking of games, your alma mater is taking on
Michigan State. They're undefeated as well, but you and Oregon,
you know, USC and Oregon are out to one to
zero starts in the conference. How you feel about them
taking on the Spartans of Sparta.

Speaker 10 (52:47):
Well, I saw, I mean the Trojans versus Spartans. I
mean that is the Trojan War, that is Achilles and
the Actor and Odisayas.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
You know, that's everybody a Paris hellative.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
I thought it was a.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Od says Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:04):
I thought it was Odecio. But I defer to you, obviously,
but I thought it was Well.

Speaker 10 (53:09):
I mean people mispronounced it, okay, I mean it's not
I wouldn't really call it a mispronunciation. I mean people
call it the Oracle at Delphi. It's Delphie, you know whatever.
But yeah, I saw Michigan State to open and I
love that head coach Jonathan Smith. Uh, it looks as
if Aidan Chiles is playing like he was the number

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one quarterback in the transfer portal two seasons ago. He
is really athletic, effortlessly flicks the ball out there. They
have a beautiful wide receiver in Nick marsh the big,
strong wide receiver Detroit kid. He's a great athlete, you know,
draft pick type of receiver. And they've they've transferred in

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some other wide out so that he's not completely double
bracketed or whatever throughout the game. So and they have
a good looking tight end, Jack Velling. They have two
serviceable backs, a big one Tullus who runs that big
stretch zone that Jonathan Smith likes. They've improved a lot
on the offensive line, defensively, pass rush, secondary. I don't

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know if they're that good, but they're going to play
a lot of different guys and platoon and try to
figure it out. This will be a big test for
USC because Jonathan Smith knows about the West Coast, he
knows about USC, he knows how to coach in that stadium.
He beat them there with Oregon State for the first
time in decades. He went down there and beat him

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with tight ends and with superior play calling and good balance.
So I believe Michigan State will come with that. USC's
look okay, I mean Perdue moved the ball a lot.
I think it'll be a shootout type of game. But
USC's look great with a couple of wide receivers. Jacobe
Lane and Lemon look spectacle acular, and the quarterback looks

(55:03):
pretty good. But this will be a big test, and
I wouldn't be surprised if the Spartans.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Don't win it.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Petros, I want to transition. The NFL rams are two
and oh, charges are two and oh. If you had
to place money right now on which one of those
teams making it in the playoffs making a deep run,
which one would it be.

Speaker 10 (55:20):
I mean, I think they both look like they could
right at this point. I mean, the quarterback's playing well,
justin Herbert looks great and but you know that.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Yeah, but there's gotta be one.

Speaker 10 (55:30):
That's like the thing about Khalil Mack just like his
arm just fell off, right.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (55:35):
And then and ray Sean Slater did an interview with
us during camp and then like literally hours later, his
leg fell off. It's hard to not feel bad about that.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
You know.

Speaker 10 (55:45):
You're like, hey, congrats on the contract we got ah.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Yeah, so sorry, Are you the musher?

Speaker 4 (55:52):
You the bad luck? Yeah? Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (55:55):
I mean every Dodger believer we talked to, the guy
goes out there and gets his chest scooped out, you know.
But so, I mean, their best defensive player and arguably
their best offensive player are.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Both out for the year. It looks like or for
a law.

Speaker 10 (56:12):
I don't know what what they said about Khalil Mack,
but that didn't look good. So that's that's not a
great thing for the Chargers. But Harbaugh is a good
coach everywhere he's gone. Suddenly the team has balanced, Suddenly
they they seem to be motivated in a different way.
And even though McVeigh is just insufferable to listen to,
for me, sounds like a guy doing an imitation at

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John Gruden, he's a really good coach and he.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Just toards Planter Fasciatis.

Speaker 10 (56:40):
Yeah, having to have a little bit of a limp,
you know, kind of a swagy lip guy.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Shut up.

Speaker 10 (56:48):
But he's a good coach man and the Rams and
they look really good. And Stafford, you know it look
turns out that he doesn't need a bachiotomy.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
His back is okay. So uh, that's a really good question.

Speaker 10 (57:01):
I mean, I would say the Rams are more proven
under McVeigh to make a deep playoff run. The next
time the Chargers make a d off deep playoff run
in my lifetime will be the first, I mean ever
since they played in the Super Bowl against Steve Young.
I mean, that's a last time the as Yeah, I
mean that's the last time. I really the Chargers have

(57:21):
really threatened. I mean, Philip Rivers and Ladanian maybe so
the Chargers are the ones.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
It's more like Missouri show me.

Speaker 10 (57:29):
But but the Rams, they they they've had sustained success
under McVeigh and Stafford and his annoying wife. And it's
hard to pook My friend Pooka Nakua out of by
U via Washington and committed to USC. So I'm sad
to say it's probably the Ramaalama ding Dongs Patra.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Speaking of the Rams, I'm a rambassador. Are you h
Are you calling a game this weekend? I am, Yeah,
it's Colorado State UTSA.

Speaker 10 (57:59):
I'm not good enough to call the game every weekend,
but I'm good enough to call.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
A game this weekend.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
Who do you got?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Colorado State? U TSA.

Speaker 10 (58:06):
U t s A has got the best, the number
one or the leading rusher in the country.

Speaker 9 (58:11):
You got us.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
He's not as good as he once was.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Are you going to get to see your favorite mascot
up close?

Speaker 5 (58:16):
He's as good as he's going to be.

Speaker 10 (58:18):
He's more machine than man now twisted and Ethan Yeah.
Robert Henry Junior, Yeah, Bob Henry out of Mississippi. Yeah,
he's Uh, this guy's already he's averaging ten yards of carry.
Uh only five nine, but like a big stride. And
all the mccowns have come through this coach. Jeff Trailer

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at ut essays, Yeah, UTSA is really interesting. They have
Owen McCown, whose son of I believe he's Josh's son.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
So he's the.

Speaker 10 (58:47):
Quarterback and uh uh I love j Norvell. I've always
loved Jay and he's a great guy in his uh.
His quarterbacks Crowler Fowler Nicolosi is a guy who got
in a fight with Shadour last year. He's one of
the better quarterbacks in the Mountain West.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
And your favorite mascot up close and personal at Colorado State.

Speaker 10 (59:07):
Oh yeah, Cam the ram with his big hairy balls. Kim,
what have you ever seen Cam the rams ball sack?

Speaker 4 (59:15):
No ja Oh, you could not believe it.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
It's auffel Bag.

Speaker 10 (59:19):
He's just out of the mountains, coming out of the
Rocky Mountains, just ready for return up the sack tang.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Oh my god, I've learned something. I'm today years old.
When I learned this, I knew this.

Speaker 10 (59:32):
I remember doing a Colorado Colorado the what do they
call it, the Rocky Mountain showdown at mile High and
Ralphie the buffalo who is a female because they can't
a male buffalo. They could just bare I mean they
can barely hold the woman back. And Ralphie does the run,
which is one of the great things in college football

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and probably totally inhumane, but and and a little bit safer,
a little safer at mile High because it's got a
thicker sideline than than fulsome field.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
It's pretty tight corners at fulsom field. When they run
that buffalo.

Speaker 10 (01:00:10):
Uh, but they run the buffalo and then you know,
Colorado State literally has like a goat and they're like,
you know, that's you know, like running with his belt,
you know, and uh saw a pitcher saw them picture,

(01:00:34):
you know, and they call them Cam the Ram because
Colorado State used to be something different, Colorado A and M.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
So cam c am you got that.

Speaker 10 (01:00:48):
I got a statue of it. It's like you you
can't sit there. You can't have like a castrated goat.
You know, you got to have its balls.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
You ain't come and.

Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
Especially since the other school in the state has like
a female mascot.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Really flaunted like the.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Ram and the Beavers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
This giant ball by the way, on uh old Bobby Henry,
he ran well versus am like everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
It's not like I know he's stay in the car word.
But he's a stud.

Speaker 10 (01:01:22):
No, he's gashing everybody for long, long runs. Uh he's
a home you know, it's one thing. And he's a
physical back and you know he gets his five yards.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
When you need him.

Speaker 10 (01:01:31):
But uh, he's he's you know, he's a home run
hitting back, which is really what kind of stood out
to me last year with Ashton Genty.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
You know, he he was getting down the field and
he had a plan when he was down the field.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
But but yes, uh is a home run hitter he is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Well, I've just provided a photo to you boys that's
more realistic the one LeVar sense not really.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Oh god, oh my gosh, kid Petros, we uh, we
appreciate it and we'll do it again next week.

Speaker 5 (01:02:03):
There he is.