Brady With a Star

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Welcome in podcast listeners. Hope all of you had a
fantastic Thursday so far. We talked about NFL uh decision
Doc versus Brady. Trust me, it's a fun conversation. Also,
we had college football signing Day officially done. Who finished
in the top ten. Will discuss more over the NBA
trade deadline, moving closer andre A Guadala on the move,

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what else might happen. We'll talk to Chris Mannix. We'll
talk with frank Is Sola and Dr David Chow on
the health between Patrick Mahomes, but also how healthy is
too are going to be and how high could he
go in the draft. We'll discuss all that and more.
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you are having a fantastic Thursday wherever you may be
across this great country or this great world. There are
a lot of moving stories as we get ready for
the NBA trade deadline, which will officially arrive at three
o'clock Eastern today, so roughly what nine hours until that happens.

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And in the meantime, we have got deals happening. Andre
Iguadala has not played for the entire season with the
Memphis Grizzlies, but the Grizzlies agree to trade him to
the Miami Heat, who are trying to make a run
in the Eastern Conference, and Iguadala agrees to a two year,
thirty million dollar extension. As a part of that trade,

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Justice Winslow will be traded from the Heat to the
Memphis Grizzlies. Winslow still young but averaging eleven points, six rebounds,
and four assists. UH. There is also another deal that
is in the works between Miami, Memphis and Oklahoma City
UH that would involve Danilo Gallinari as well. So there

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are multiple different directions UH in which things are moving.
But the Heat trying to make a move to at
least challenge the Bucks in the Eastern Conference by adding
the long time Golden State player who has not played
ever for the Memphis Grizzly. So that is one trade
that is taking place. Also. UH. In addition to UH

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to that, we've got the Sixers getting Robinson and Burke's
from the Warriors. Uh. The Warriors are absolutely awful, but
the Sixers feel like they need to make a move
to be competitive in the East as well. They add
Glenn Robinson the third and Alec Burke's uh and UH.
As a result, Golden State gets a second round pick

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in one and two. And the goal there with the
Warriors is to continue uh to uh to make moves
to try to set up for next year. UH. They
they they lost some of their tax bill. Um and
UH that is UH that is interesting to see how

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exactly all of that will shake out. So I don't
know I'm gonna bring in the crew. I haven't been
aggressively following this, but now that we're about nine hours away, UH,
have you guys, is there anybody that's on the trading
block that is going to fundamentally alter the trajectory of
this season? Any expectations there? As the trade deadline inches

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closer and closer Danny g No. But the one player
in Los Angeles that we've been tracking here is Kyle Kuzma,
because of course the Lakers have in kind of testing
the waters, and Marcus Morris is the one guy that
the Lakers and Clippers are both interested in. Yeah, so
that is at least a story. And there was some

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talk that Iguadala was potentially going to go to l A,
either the Clippers or the Lakers, right so him ending
up in Miami basically cancels that out as a as
a possibility. And I think the storyline is right now
in the Eastern Conference again, with nine hours until the
trade deadline, the Bucks right now are a huge favorite,

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even money to win the Eastern Conference. So whether you're
the Celtics, seventies six ers, the Heat, whoever you are
in the East, if you're trying to make a move,
that at least is is on the horizon. Now. There
has been talked that the Rockets are trying to clear
up room to be able to make a run and
potentially add someone else, right, but there's no expectation that's

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going to happen in the next nine hours, correct, And
we still don't know the details on what exactly the
Rockets are doing. It's all speculation at this point. All right,
Dub anything that you're paying attention to as the trade
deadline is nine hours away? Well, there have been rumblings
with my San Antonio Spurs regarding exploring scenarios for Demarduros
and and LaMarcus Aldridge. But according to WoDES and other

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sources that, uh, the Spurs are asking for quite a lot,
so I would not expect that if they moved either
of those guys. It's basically the Spurs saying we gotta
just go back and rebuild entirely right correct, and and
for the for the opposite team to get get one
of those guys, if they're contender, that could be you know,
a big different story, right, because those two guys are

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pretty good players. What about you, Eddie? Are you paying
attention to this at all as we come up on
that the trade deadline? Well, I mean I am paying
attention to it because it's part of my job. I'm
not gonna lie to you that I'm you know, on
pins and needles waiting to see where anybody goes. But
I would say there's one name that it's you know
somewhat intriguing you out there. I don't know what he
has to offer anymore, but dear of Rows obviously is

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a big name, and he's played decently this year, and
maybe he's a guy that could be moved. Yeah, So
that is I would say the big storyline in general
is as we moved closer and closer to the NBA
trade deadline, not as much drama as there has been
in past years, but in the NBA you never know.
UH players have so much power, and also teams and
owners and UH coaches seem to bail or dive in.

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You're never really sure who's trying to win a championship
or who's trying to advance in the playoffs, and who's
sort of looking at the cards that they have and
about to fold. So we will have some sense in
nine hours exactly how set up we are coming down
the stretch. If you're curious and you're just starting to
pay attention to other sports as we come out of
UH the NFL bunker, which I think there are a

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lot of you out there that are kind of in
UH in that universe. Um, when you look at the
Eastern Conference, like I said, the Bucks are now minus
one fifty to uh to win to win the Eastern Conference,
seventy Sixers and the Celtics are substantial underdogs, as are
the Raptors the Heat at nine to one, So even

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with the Egguadala trade, there's not a lot of expectation
that that is going to turn into a a big success.
And also right now, the top three are pretty big favorites.
The Lakers are plus two eighties, so the Lakers right
now are the favorite to win the NBA title. Milwaukee
Bucks three twenty so little over three to one, and

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the Clippers are a little over three to one as well.
And then the Rockets are kind of floating around out
there at nine to one, seventy Sixers at ten to one,
the Nuggets eighteen to one, Jazz eighteen to one, Celtics
eighteen to one. Uh So those would be the top eight,
all inside of the twenty to one number. As we

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move closer and closer, there's it's kind of an interesting angle.
You can get California versus the entire MBA on Fox
bet right now, uh will California win the NBA title?
Uh minus one three? And obviously the Clippers and the
Lakers are are that angle right now when you look

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at that. Uh, I guess you could also get the
Kings and the Warriors, but I think the Warriors are
almost eliminated. A speaking of the Warriors, I was going
to mention to you not to leave the Bay Area out.
The Timberwolves still want D'Angelo Russell, so that trade would
involve multiple teams and could possibly send Andrew Wiggins to
the Warriors, and the Warriors are I mean, I haven't

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heard the latest on Clay Thompson, but it would be
a huge surprise at this point if they decided to
bring him back at all this year, right, I mean,
it seems like they're just taking a you know, a
gap year and just gonna be awful for a year
and then next year when Steph comes back, healthy, Clay
comes back, healthy Draymond, and then they'll try and figure
out what moves they can make. They could end up

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before all is said and done, with the number one
overall pick and uh and have a lot of assets
to be able to piece together to try to go
get a player that puts them back in the mix
to win a championship. That has to be their thought
process at this point in time. And if they keep
d Angelo Russell, uh, it's probably just to be able
to pair him with the number one pick. And we'll
talk with Chris Mannox about this in a little bit.

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He has scheduled to join us an hour one, as
is Frank Is Sola UH to break down everything that's
going on in the world of of the n b
A as we come up on the trade deadline. So
that is our story. We'll talk a little bit about
the Kansas City Chiefs having their parade. Travis Kelsey had
some funny quotes. Great snag on beer drinking by Patrick

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Mahomes tweeted that link out earlier. UH, so we will
discuss all that. By the way, big upset in college basketball.
Vanderbilt had not won a game in like twenty six
straight uh SEC contest and then last night they went
out and they beat l s U, who was the
best team in the SEC. UH And that is a

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pretty wild result if you're a college basketball fan. One
of the wildest results UH so far this season to
have a team that had not won a single game
in conference in a year and a half then come
out and beat the team that is in first place
in the conference. Top twenty five. L s u uh,
that was pretty wild. Be sure to catch live editions
about Kicked the coverage with Clay Travis weekdays at six

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am Eastern three am Pacific. Joined now by Frank I
Sola at the Frank Sola on Twitter. You can find
him there. Frank, appreciate you joining us. The Yankees are
a substantial favorite in the American League, partly because the
Boston Red Sox are selling off their talent Mookie Betts
and the David Price to the Dodgers. Am I the

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only person who was stunned that the Red Sox don't
think they have enough money to be able to pay
these guys. It's amazing, right they have, you know, one
of the most loyal fan bases in all of sports.
It's hard to get tickets to those games. I mean,
if you're a fan of that team, you've been incredibly well,
you buy everything that they have, You want to go
to games. How can they not have that? It's crazy.

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I mean their cable TV pack, which has to be
you know, I mean all of the England watches those games.
This is a weird. They have to be so upset
right now with ownership. Maybe John Henry is more worried
about Liverpool right now. The name is about the Red Stock.
I just I don't remember. And it's interesting. It's a
hundred year anniversary about almost exactly of the decision to
sell Babe Ruth to the New York Yankees, and obviously

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that changed everything. I'm actually reading a book about Babe
Ruth now, which is really really entertaining about how he
kind of changed the fabric of the way we cover
sports in America. But the hundred year university, like that
makes sense back then when Major League Baseball teams very
often we're struggling financially. But I don't remember the last
time that we had a situation where and about like

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a legitimate m v P and Mookie Betts, a team
just says, yeah, we're not gonna be able to afford him,
and they basically give him away. And there are certain
teams too in baseball. The Yankees are clearly one of them,
Chicago Cubs that could take on these big salaries. It's
interesting that the Red that the Red Sox traded them
to one of those teams, which is the Dodgers, who
you know the I guess they think they're gonna out

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hit everybody, which has kind of always been, you know,
an issue that the Yankees have had that they get.
I get it. They did at David Price. It's just
strange that the Red Sox are going into a season
where they're giving away essentially, you know, their star player.
It to me, it makes no sense. And again, if
you're a fan of that team, and I let's listen
from the Yankee standpoint, the Yankees and the Red Sox

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played each other, it seems like about fifty times and
every game take about four and a half hours to play.
I think it's going to take a little bit away
this season of kind of what they had going because
you know, you figured, especially with what's going on in
Houston right now, that you know, maybe the Yankees and
the Red Sox would be the two teams that would
be battling out to be the best team in the
American League. What in the world's going on with the Mats.
We had a decision by multi billionaire Steve Cohen. It

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appeared to buy the team three things seemed to be
trending in a good direction there and then he at
the last minute, it seems like he's just decided to
walk away what have you picked up about what is
occurring there? You know, it's amazing about the Mets. It's
like there are three teams in New York who all
seem to always be stuck in the same thing. It's
the Mets, the Jets, and the nixt. Now the Mets

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have one, you know, all three of them, you know,
one in ninety nine right around there. So they always
seem to be linked by that. But they always seem
to be linked by dysfunction, poor ownership. And you know,
this is a guy, Steve Cohen, who the fans were
getting excited about because he was going to invest a
lot of money into the team. And the one thing
about the Wilpons and everything that happened with the with

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the scandal that they were involved in the Ponzis team,
is that they operate like there were a small market team.
You're the New York Mets, and the Mets type one
of these stand bases play that when the team is good,
the fans will show up. If you don't put it
to their credit, if you don't put out a good
enough product and they think you're trying to cut corners,
that will stop showing up for games. So the met

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fan base had been so excited about the prospects of
this sale potentially going through. Now it's like a punch
to the gut for them with the the events of
the last couple of days. Are you paying attention to
the NBA trade deadline coming up at three o'clock Eastern, Yeah,
you know, it's it's it's amazing how many, uh you
have different players already getting moved. How about on what
you would you make of Andre Gudala, the guy sits

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out its season. Did you see the tweet from c.
J McCollum say he referred He said that Andrea Gudala
is a legend because you sat You've been sitting home,
you got to promote your books, spend time with your family,
and then you've got a contract extension on top and
you get to go to a better team. Yeah. It

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just kills me sometimes with the players, Like a week ago,
they're talking about Momba mentality, and now we have an
NBA player referring to other players a legend for getting
to sit out for the season and just collect money
and get an extension. It's it's it's strange sometimes the
way the players look at things. But I'll tell you
what about it. Gudala. You know he's not that young.
And I get why Pat Rowley is doing it because

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you look at the ross and they have nobody with
the NBA Finals experience. The only guy has been really
deep into the playoffs has been Jimmy Butler, So I
get that's why he's doing it. But we'll see anything.
I has not played since last June. I understand it
keeps himself in great shape, but not playing since last
June can't be good. Patrick Mahomes obviously now the face
of the NFL, having won his first Super Bowl and

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Super Bowl m v P at the age of twenty four.
We had a big debate about this on the show
on Monday and Tuesday, but we didn't get a chance
to talk to you. If you had to set an
over under for how many Super Bowls Patrick Mahomes will
play in in his career, what do you think the
number should be playing? Is an interesting one. You know,
I'm gonna say if what would be my numb but

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what was your number? Yeah? I said, I'm up to
four and a half now, and I know like Elway
played in five, Peyton Manning played in four, Brady's obviously
off the charts having played in nine. But I look
at this so when I break it down, I look
at the division first, And obviously a big part of
why the Patriots have been so successful is because the
rest of their division stinks. And if you can win

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your division, you know what a minimum you get to
host a home playoff game, and you have a pretty
good chance of being able to get one of those buys, right,
And so if I look at the a f C
West right now, I think the Raiders are gonna be
bad and we don't really buy into the fact that
Derek Carr is their guy, So I don't think they're
gonna be a legitimate contender in the years ahead. I
don't believe in right now the Chargers, who don't have

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a quarterback and are probably gonna have to go draft one.
And it remains to be seen how good Drew Lock
is gonna be with the Broncos. So I think you
can make an argument. I think it's a decent argument
that right now the Chiefs are better against their division
than anybody else. So, uh, my number I think is five,
and I think you'll win three, And that obviously means

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he'd go three in two in the Super Bowl, and
that's a it's a big prediction because basically I'm put
him on John Elways level. Elway went two in three,
but I think Patrick Mahomes wins three, which is an
incredibly high standard. But that's what I think right now,
and the you know, the day after their celebration, as
we continue to kind of look forward. You know, it's
funny if you think about the way the last twelve

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minutes of the Super Bowl ended. You know, um, the
FDA Nighters get the ball back, and if they could
just put together a long enough drive where they can
eat some clock and cane a defensive chance to rest
because at that point, you know, Mahomes has not played
had played great up to that point. Yeah, And that's
the thing, you know, even lass season with Tom Brady,

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tom Brady was only great when it mattered, and that
was really on that final drive, especially that completion that
he had to Gronkowski. My only concern with Mahomes, so
to me, is the best quarterback now in the league,
and to his credit, he was all. He went all
out in that game and he took some massive hits.
That would be the only thing that would concern me

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about him, and he's not the smart when he runs.
You know, he's not just like out there running, you know,
for the heck of it. He kind of you know,
when he knows he has an opening, he'll go. But
he's not the fastest guy. The only thing that would
concern me would be some of the hits that he
could take, because he took some mute hits in that game.
So I would probably put it at making it to
four and then over under I guess I'm winning. It

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would probably be about two and a half to three.
I could see he's clearly the best. I just think
there could be other factors, and one of them could
be injuries. Another one could be you know, what's gonna
happen with some of the talent they have. I still
can't believe thee the third and fifth team pass to
Turek Hill. I mean, it seems like the best. Yeah, yeah,
I thought it was the biggest player of the game.
And it's funny too, because you know, you heard so

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much about the Niners defense, they didn't really come through.
I think the big question is going to be would
you think they would have gone for the fourth and
fifteen I tend to think that they would have Yeah,
they would have been at their own thirty five. And
obviously if they would have gone forward on fourth and fifteen,
that's the game at that point in time. I tend
to think they would have punted if that ball, for instance,
had gotten dropped by Tyreek Hill, because you're still down ten,

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which means you don't need, uh, you know, two touchdowns.
Necessarily you get a touchdown a field goal to go
into overtime. But there's only you know, been six and
what seven minutes left, and that's in a scenario if
we get the drop there another and I just sat
really quick. I just let the Niners after the interception,
five place punt, they score three place punt. But the

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minute they punted the ball back, I said, man, you guys,
you're gonna be you're gonna be losing this game at
some points, are gonna watch down the field. That's exactly
what he did. Yeah. Look, I mean, Kyl Shanahan's been
outscored now in the fourth quarter of the two games
he's been in the Super Bowl forty six to nothing.
That ain't goodeable, Okay, Brady Um. A lot of talk
continuing about what Tom Brady's gonna do. Fox Bet has

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put out odds. They say minus three hundred that he
is gonna stay in New England. If he does leave,
they put the Raiders and uh the Chargers as the
two favorites. I don't buy him going to the Raiders
or Chargers for the reason I just laid out that.
I think it'sficult to get past Patrick Mahomes. I don't
think Brady wants to worry about winning a division. I

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think if Tom Brady leaves the places he should consider
our Indianapolis and the Titans. If the Titans didn't get
a deal done with Ryan Tannehill, because you could win
the a f C South, put yourself in a decent position.
I think if you were the quarterback of either of
those teams right now, do you think Brady leaves, And
if you do, think he's at least considering it, where

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you think you should go. You know. The one thing
about l A is I wonder if he's going for
a football reason, and maybe it's a situation where he thinks, well,
if I go there, I'm Tom Brady will be able
to do well. I just wonder how much lifestyle factors
into it. You know, you know how much of his
would his wife be pushing it with the baby, saying
I don't want to move Indianapolis. I don't want to
go to Vegas. I don't want to go to Tennessee Dallas.

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That's why I think if he goes, I still think
it could be l A. There's always been these whispers
out there, which, of course you would be circumventing the cap,
which you wouldn't be allowed to do on put it
on the table, would be the idea of maybe having
like part ownership once you was done. So I think
I think he's staying if he doesn't, just because you know,
it's it's weird. I remember Joe Niman finished his career

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in l A with the Rams. It was terrible. Uh.
For some reason, I could see it being the Rams.
I could see it being a big mistake if he
does it. I think the teams that you just pointed
out makes sense from a football standpoint, But I don't
know if he's necessarily only thinking about it. And you
know the way a lot of players are there, there's
like an arrogance about them. Look at the Rosson's actively
with these guys, which would probably be a mistake. What

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are you? We're talking to Frankie Sola at the Franki Sola.
He's on around the horn, he is on serious ex
m and you can read him at the athletic What
about this? And I floated this out way before anybody
else did. But as the Dallas Cowboys, it seems clear
are moving towards franchising Dak Prescott. If you're a Dallas
Cowboy fan and you're Jerry Jones and you're seventy eight
years old or whatever the heck he is, and you're

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trying to win a super Bowl with that offensive line
and with the skill position players. They have a Zekiel
Elliott obviously, but also a Marii Cooper and uh, it
seems like a good young core that is continuing to
grow in the receiver position. Wouldn't you rather have Brady
for two years than Dak at thirty million dollars a year? Especially?

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You know what, it's a it's a weird one because
I tend to agree with that because, first of all,
think about how big that would be Tom Brady playing
for the team that you Every time they're on TV,
they get these unbelievable radies, fascinating theater if he went there.
And I think their point. The one thing about that's
Dak Prescot. I think it's a lot like Jimmy Garoppolo,
who you know he I could see Dak Prescott playing

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well enough to maybe get his team to the super Bowl.
And then it's like that last twelve minutes of a
game when you needed to do something and he couldn't
come through. Where Tom Brady, you know, you think, you
know Jerry Jones was getting up there in age and
desperately wants to win one more Super Bowl. You cannot
tell me that it's not something that he would explore.
And you cannot tell me that Mike McCarthy might not

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be interested in something like that either. I mean Mike
McCarthy did have um Brett Farman, Aaron Rodgers. I mean
he's had some top shelf type of quarterbacks. I I still,
for whatever reason, don't think it's the craziest thing. And
I think to the Cowboys, why wouldn't you explore that,
Why wouldn't you look at it like in the next
two years, let's try to win one of the Super Bowls.
And we still think with our offensive line and Tom Brady,

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we can get there. Yeah. Look, I I agree with
you that Dak is Jimmy g And that's not saying
that they're awful, right, It's just that I think for
highly paid quarterbacks, those guys are very average. And the
question you have to ask yourself is if you are
going to be struggling with Dak Prescott and you think yourself, hey,
maybe we're gonna have a Kirk Cousins like situation with

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Dak down in Dallas, And what I mean by that
is you end up franchising him a couple of times
there turns into bad blood, and then ultimately free agency
happens and Dak may go somewhere else. That's what happened
with the Redskins with Kirk Cousins. And look, the Redskins
are certainly worse without Kirk Cousins, but it's not like
he's gone to Minnesota signed that contract. And every Viking

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fan who's listening to us is right now is like, oh,
we got the best deal of all time with Kirk Cousins.
He's won one playoff game for you, right, and for
I think it was eighty four million that you ended
up giving him. I'm not sure that that Viking fans
would be like, oh, that's money well spent. You haven't
been much better, if at all, than you were with
case Keenum, who took you to the the NFC Championship game. Right. So,

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I think that's the question for Cowboy fans. If you
had two years of Brady, do you feel like you
would be better off than if you have two years
of Dak? I can make an argument yes. Now after that,
you obviously would have to go back to the drawing
board and find a new quarterback. But I think that's
the tough decision that you have to make right now.
Is Dak the guy that can win you a Super
Bowl or not? We know Brady is, and I think

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sometimes with teams because they're a team that drafted Dak Prescott.
You know, he's clearly a popular player. I think his teammates,
like some people in the organization like him. You're the
you're the team that developed him. So I think there's
you know, those students were at work, but think about
some of the rest that they had this year. You know,
they went into the meadow lands and they lost the Jets.
They had some crushing, crushing games this year where they

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just didn't come through so we're actually giving him the
benefit of the doubt because we're saying that we believe
that he can get He's probably good enough for he
could win a couple of games, maybe get to the
Super Would he be the star player in the game.
That's a little hard to believe, but I mean think
about what he's done the last couple of years. You know,
the team is really in the performer and I got,
like you said, the great offensive line. They've got good
skill positions. You cannot tell me that Jerry Jones, who

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is credit now? You know, seeing him on the field
after every game and you know, having to give a
State of the Cowboys address kind of travisy and nuts,
but you know, the guy is thinking about winning a
Super Bowl every minute of every day. And with Tom
Brady out there, how can he not be thinking about that?
Good stuff. Thanks for joining us, Frankie Solo. We will
talk to you next week at the Frankie Solo on Twitter.
My man, thank you. Thanks. This is outkicked the coverage

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with Clay Travis joined now Chris Mannix at s I
Chris Mannix on Twitter, Chris, What's gonna happen? On a
scale of one to ten between now and three o'clock Eastern.
How active is the NBA trade deadline gonna be? I
think it's gonna be pretty active, especially around the fringes.

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There are a number of kind of role players that
are still in play. Um, there's a lot of intrigue
about what the Rockets are gonna do. I mean, they've
got a roster slot and about the ability to take
on almost twelve million dollars of salary and a general
manager who ranks some only the most aggressive in the league.
So that that's something that bears watching. And you know,

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what the Nicks decided to do with Marcus Morris is
probably the most interesting, largely because it could come down
to the Lakers or the Clippers, two teams that that
certainly need that kind of upgrade. So who do you
think gets him? If if do you think the Knicks
move him? And if so, who should be favored of
the Lakers? Are the Clippers? Yeah? I think the Knick's
absolutely move him. It just makes no sense them to

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hold on to a guy who's going to be a
free agent at the end of the year, especially when
they can get um, you know, real quality back and return.
Look to me, Marcus Morris always been the Clippers to
lose um. They have the ready made package. They can
deal a first round draft pick this year, the Lakers cannot.
They've got Moharkless his contract. The Lakers would have to
stack some contracts up. And I guess that the Lakers

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were willing to throw Kyle Kuzma into the mix. You
could certainly make an offer that would trump the the
Clippers offer, but that that's a lot for you know,
a potential rental in Marcus Morris. So look the Clippers
that they tried to sign Mars this pastopics. He's an
offered a three year deal in next is a forty
million dollars. They like this guy. So I just don't

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unless Kyle Kuzma goes in the deal, I don't see
them being outbid. Is he a difference maker? As the
Lakers and the Clippers seem to be staring each other
down right, as the two favorites in the Western Conference?
Does he tip the scales in favor of the Clippers
in your mind? I? Look, I think he's an upgrade.
He's a a forty plus percent three point shooter, could
play two positions, has gone on a couple of deep

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playoff runs with Boston in recent years, so I think
he's he's a factor. Uh does he address the glaring
weakness of the Clippers right now? I mean, they're they
have a rebounding problem at the moment um. Marcus Marris
doesn't really address that. I mean, so I don't know.
I don't know that he necessarily pushes them ahead of

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the Lakers, but he certainly is better than what they
have right now, So it would be it would be
a solid pick up. Again, I go back to the
three point shooting. I mean, if he's able to continue
shooting above, that's going to be a big factor. You said,
Darryl Moray is kind of the wild card here that
he's freed up some space for the Rockets. What's the
expectation about what he might be trying to do or
who he might be trying to add? I mean it's

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a good question because I don't know at this point.
I mean, look, the Oklahoma city is open for business
right now, and and they've become kind of this does
this grocery store of options out there, whether you want
to small forward. You have Gallinari who could be going
to Miami. You've got a center in Steven Adams. You've
got some some guard playing Dennis Shrewder. I mean they

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could they could look at Dennis Shrewder for sure, but
and look, Oklahoma City and and in Houston have made
deals together before. But I just don't know if that moves.
You know, the Rockets are just I don't know, they're
a strange team. I mean, they're gonna go all in
with this small ball lineup for the rest of the season,
and I mean they'll be fun to watch. They'll probably
put up some bonkers scoring numbers, but I'm not sure
that's going to be successful in the playoffs against the

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supersized teams like you know, Denver and Utah and the
Clippers and Lakers. So it's it's interesting. I mean, they
got the wing guy they wanted, Robert Covington, but I
just don't know who's out there that they're gonna be
able to acquire. Okay, what's going on right now when
you look at at all the moving parts with the
Eastern Conference? Because right now I was just reading the odds,

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the Bucks are a prohibitive favorite to win the Eastern Conference.
You've got the heat making moves, you've got seventy sixers
making moves. Uh, does anybody really have a chance to
challenge the box based on what you've seen? Well, I
mean I love what Milwaukee. Well, I'll started what Miami's doing. Um,
at this point, it's unclear if they're going to be
able to acquire Gallinari. They're trying, all sides are trying

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to make a deal work. But there's a lot of
moving parts there in Miami. Quite frank that doesn't have
a lot to offer, especially in terms of draft capital.
But you know they're making if if they're able to
get Gallinari on top big Wedala, you know, they've got
pieces like they're they're they're real good. So like I
would put them in the mix. I think they've gone
to the Milwaukee alrighty this season in one, So I

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mean that that's that's a team I'd be nervous about.
I mean, Jimmy Butler is a proven closer in this league.
So if I'm if I'm looking at the teams out
there that can win and and beat Milwaukee, I think
put Miami at the top of that list. What are
the Warriors trying to do? Uh, they're obviously basically mailing
in this season, they made a trade to the Sixers. Uh,
they still have D'Angelo Russell out there, who's at least

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a uh maybe a pawn that they could move, but
also are potentially gonna end up with the number one
overall pick. Does it make more sense for them to
stay kind of with what they've got and maybe make
trades in the off season. What do you think their
game plan is? Yeah, I mean, look, they're they're right now.
What they're trying to do and what they may be
able to pull off is get under the luxury tax

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this year, which isn't all that consequential this year, but
it protects them from the repeater tax, which is something
that could cost them north of thirty million dollars the
following year. So they're trying to get out of that
that tax hell that they could be and so they
could spend more money in the coming season. That's the
deal with the Alec Burks and the minor trades that
made along the Fringes, Willie Collie Stein and deals like that,

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So that that's sort of the priority right now. I
just don't see Russell moving before the deadline. I mean,
Minnesota is like first for D'Angelo Russell is like the
most crazy thing I've seen like Russell. Like it was
like six months ago where Russell like quite literally left
them at the altar, like he was in Minnesota and
ready this like I'm about to sign there. Then did
a pivot and went to Golden State. But that didn't

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dissuade the Timberwolves at all. They're now trying to doin
everything that they can to trade for him that that's
not going to change if they keep him into the
off season. If they wait till the off season and
they wind up with like the number one pick in
the draft, the Angelo Russell and number one pick in
the draft might get you Ben Simmons, it might get
you another superstar to put in that leak that. That's
why I think you see teams like Miami and others

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really arming up right now because you know there's an
opening for for someone who win a championship this year.
But if the Gores come back reloaded with like another
star in that mix via trade, you know a super
team could be reconstituted very quickly. What's the relationship like
between Lebron and Kuzma right now? Do you think there's
any possibility the Lakers are shopping Kuzma. Yeah, I think

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they're shopping him, and they have been. But you know, Kuzma,
like because of his relatively low or really low salary
that relative like he makes two million dollars three million
dollars right now. Because of that, he makes it very
tough to deal for a player there's a higher salary guy.
They have to act some contracts up like Avery Bradley
and and some others too to make a deal like

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that worse, I would look, I from what I understand that.
You know, what happened with Kuzma's trainer and what he
said there was problematic. Uh, but you know it's not
Lebron wants to win and if Kyle Cousm can help
him win, he's gonna go out there and do it.
All right, What else is out there in the NBA
that we should be aware of that I haven't been
smart enough to ask you as the trade deadline inches
closer and closer. No, I mean, I just think you

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look at Washington for a minute and see if they
deal Davis Burton. Boston is pretty hard after him. It's
another forty plus percent three point shooter. Uh, Philly got
their shooters. We'll see if they can crack the rotation. Uh,
you know, my like Oklahoma City continues to be the
team to watch with Steven Adams. But I think what
we saw in the last twenty four hours, last twelve
hours play that it's not gonna be the most you know,

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high profile trade deadline. It's it's certainly gonna be a
deadline when you see some fringe movement, but uh, no
big names I think will be moving the next six
seven hours. And in your mind as we come down
the stretch here, I know next week is the NBA
All Star Break. Who is the favorite in the East?
It should still be the Bucks. I imagine in your mind,
who's the favorite right now to you in the West
to match up with him in the finals. Yeah, I

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still like Milwaukee in the East until Miami shows me
something in the West. I'm like, I'm a I'm gonna
be a Clipper guy till till I'm not. I mean
the Clippers. I think you're seventeen and four with Kauai
and Paul George both playing. Uh, that's an impressive number.
And in the playoffs, as you know, like there's no
need to rest guys. You can you know, don't back
to back so that that's where where Kauai survived in
the postseason last year. So I leaned towards the Clippers,

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But man, that Hallway series with the Lakers, I think
it's gonna be a lot of fun if it plays
out that way. Do you pay give any it's credence
or attention at all to the rumors about griping on
Paul George and Kauai sitting out or do you think
that's a mountain mole hill made into a mountain. No.
I think there's some griping, but even largely because that team,
you know, it was a good team last year, played

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hard all season long. But ultimately these guys know Kauai
is on a different schedule of Paul George is on
a different type of schedule. I mean these to me,
it both can be true, right, they can be some
griping going on the locker room, but not enough to
even remotely derail the season. Like there's been no talk
outside within the Clippers organization to make a substantial move

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to get somebody's gripers out, Like it's just there. They
have no problem, you know, fixing any issues right now
outstanding stuff. Appreciate the time, my man. I know it's early.
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(35:34):
search f s R to listen live. A couple of
different things we're tracking. The NBA trade deadline officially hits
at three o'clock Eastern, that is eight hours from now.
Big trade last night, agreed to Andre Iguidala, who hasn't
even played with the Memphis Grizzlies, agreeing to go to
the Miami Heat and also agreeing to a two year,

(35:55):
thirty million dollar contract extension. It's good work if you
can get it. Lots of uncertainty still out there in
terms of other major moves that may be made. It
is worth paying attention to your phones, having your alerts
turned on if you're a hardcore NBA fan to see
what might happen there. We also had the Kansas City

(36:16):
Chiefs celebrating their first Super Bowl title in fifty years.
I believe we have some audio from Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes,
and Travis Kelsey as a part of that celebration next year,
We're coming right back here one more time, baby, one
more time. My voice is already almost gone, and y'all

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know I don't have too much already. When I became
the starter for Kansas City, the first thing I want
to do was bringing Lamar Hunt Trophy back to Kansas City,
back to this organization. And the second most important thing
I wanted to do, let's get the Lombardi Trophy for
the greatest coach of all time, Andy Root. Baby. His season,

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the adversary we deal with with the injuries. I mean,
my knee was in the side of my leg, but
we still went back and we won the Super Bowl.
Were the chance, Baby, every single touchdown, every single point
we score at Arrowhead's gonna end with the anthem, and
y'all gotta help me say right here one last time
for two thousand, nineteen, two thousand, twenty World Champions. You

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gotta fight, y'all right to fin I love you. I
don't know if you see this bell, but man, this
bell got something on It's got the heavyweight Champions of
the World. Baby, the heavyweight champions of the world. That
memorial up there, I see everybody up there in that memorial.

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Does nobody know we're representing in honor every single veteran
that with the war throws in World War One? What's good?
What's good? Right or not? Of America? Travis Kelsey shout
out to World War One veterans who I'm sure we're

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very happy. I don't think there's any still living World
War One veteran. I might be wrong, but I think
that that is correct. So that is the Kansas City
Chiefs with their big celebration in UH. In Kansas City,
massive crowds turn out to UH to celebrate the first
UH Super Bowl in fifty years. All right, speakinning of

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chasing championships. Yesterday we talked about the fact that it
was signing Day, UM and Signing Day part two as
it were, because if you're a college football fan, there
are now two signing days. There's the signing day in
December right before Christmas, and then there is the signing
day that used to be the traditional signing day, which

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is the one that we just had UH yesterday, where
it's called the late signing period. Now, so what actually
is out there? UM, I'm not a guy who sits
around and looks at individual recruits, but I do know this.
If you want your team to win a championship, basically
for the last twenty five years plus, in order to

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win a championship, what you need is top ten talent
in your recruiting classes. In fact, basically in order to
win a championship in the playoff era where you have
to win two pretty tough games, once you even get
to the playoff, you need to have top ten talent
in three of the four recruiting classes before you win

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a championship. Happened with l s You happened with Clemson,
happened with Alabama. I'm gonna have this up on out
kick later today if you're curious to check out all
that data. What I'd like to use as sort of
my jumping off point is the seven Sports Composite Index. Uh.
That is the rankings where they take all of the

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rankings from a variety of different sources and roll them
in together to tell you where exactly teams are ranking.
And so here is the top ten, and then I
will give you a few other teams outside the Georgia
Bulldogs won your recruiting National Championship this year. This is
Kirby smarts second number one class in three years. Georgia

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with the best recruiting class in the nation. Uh, Kirby
Smart just recruiting out of his mind. The Alabama Crimson Tide,
as Nick Saban has done pretty much every year since
he got to Alabama, finish his second overall, They've been
either one or two in pretty much every recruiting class
ranking since Nick Saban got there. Uh. The Clemson Tigers

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are at three. Debbo is just absolutely rolling in the talent.
Clemson dominating in the A C C. And I'll explain
that in a bit. Uh. L s U off of
the National Championship notches a number four related overall class.
Then you've got Ohio State, Texas, A and M who

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had some big additions, Jimbo Fisher's class. Uh down the stretch, Auburn, Florida, Texas,
and Tennessee is your top ten? All right? Let me
repeat the top ten in college football recruiting class rankings. Georgia, Alabama, Clemson,
l s U, Ohio State, Texas, A and M, Auburn, Florida, Texas,

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and Tennessee, Oklahoma slotted in at the eleven. Spot Oregon
is the top rated pack twelve school at twelve. Miami
does a decent job finishing at thirteen. Then you get
Michigan and Penn State. UH. In the top fifteen. Notre
Dame didn't have a lot of scholarships open, but they

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finished seventeen North Carolina under Mac Brown out nineteen Nebraska
with its best class I believe so far for Scott
Frost at UH Stanford with an incredibly strong class for
them at twenty one. Couple of the other teams of note,
I'm sorry USC Trojan fans, you guys have fallen off

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of the radar completely. I have to click load more.
You finished fifty five in the recruiting class rankings. UH.
You had a small class, but that is a that
is a real mess for for USC to finish as
far down as they did overall in UH in that

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recruiting class ranking. All right, that is UH the breakdown
in general of where people finish. And again, the reason
why it matters is if you want to compete for
a national championship. People out there who say, oh, it
doesn't matter where you're four, whether you have four or
five stars or anything else. That my friend is not
accurate in any way. UH. In order to win national

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championships over the last twenty five years, you need at
least two top ten recruiting classes, and generally speaking it's
three or four recruiting if anything is becoming more important
than it has been in the past. Now here kind
of puts into context where the top players are going.
I read to the top ten. I'm gonna do it

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one more time. Georgia, Alabama, Clemson, l s U, Ohio State, Texas,
A and M, Auburn, Florida, Texas, and Tennessee. Seven of
the top ten recruiting classes in the nation are in
the SEC. And let me give Tennessee here as an example.
Tennessee finished seventh in the SEC. That is good enough

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for ten in the nation. How would that shake out
in every other conference in the country. Tennessee would have
the second best class in the A C C behind Clemson.
They would have the second best class in the Big
Ten behind Ohio State. They would have the second best

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class in the Big Twelve behind Texas. They would have
the best class in the entirety of the Pack twelve.
They would be better than the number twelve ranked team Oregon.
So Tennessee would be second in the A C C,
they would be second in the Big twelve, they would
be first in the Pack twelve, and they would be

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second in the Big ten. They are seventh in the SEC.
That's the quality of player that they are bringing in
in the SEC. Now, again, I'm not saying that any
individual four or five star player is going to be
the best. But the reason why the SEC has had
the most players drafted in the past twelve years consecutively

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in the NFL is because they bring in the best
players and they're are some teams that can compete at
the highest level with the SEC. Ohio State, Clemson, that's
pretty much it, honestly, in terms of the talent that
top programs are bringing in. Ohio State is bringing in

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SEC level talent. Clemson is bringing in SEC level talent.
It's no surprise that they were in the playoff as
a result. There are a lot of other schools in
the SEC that are bringing in top talent. And again,
just using Tennessee as a jumping off point, they have
the seventh best team talent UH in the SEC recruiting

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class rankings. They would be the best in the Pack twelve,
the second best in the Big Twelve, second best in
the Big Ten, and second best in the a SEC.
The gap between Ohio State and the Big Ten continues
to grow. The gap between Clemson and the a c
C continues to grow in a big way. Those are
basically SEC caliber teams playing in a vastly inferior conference otherwise,

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which suggests if you're a Buckeye fan or you're a
Tiger fan, your team is going to have a very
good chance of being in the playoff mix every year,
even if, uh the other teams do not have a
very good chance of being able to beat them. Dub
I know you're a pretty big college football fan. I
know you are to Eddie. Do you guys follow the
college football recruiting rankings? I don't follow it as much

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as I used to when I was younger, but I
do keep keep tabs on it, and I you know,
I remember we having this conversation a couple of months
back about the recruiting and it is interesting and it
makes sense, but you're right with the SEC, and you know,
more specifically, I really only keep up with Auburn and
we're seventh in the country, but we're not even in
you know, the top for like top five, barely in
the SEC. So it is pretty wild to see the

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talent discrepancy in the SEC compared to the rest of
the country. What about you, Eddie. I pay attention to
it casually just to kind of be in the know
about you know, who the teams are there in the
top ten things like that. I will say, I absolutely
hate when the kids through the shell game with the
hats and teas and all the stuff. It's so dumb.
But did you see the video of the Missouri coach

(47:10):
reacting to the big recruit that he landed. That was
pretty amazing. Eli drink Woz was not expecting to get uh.
I think it was Alabama was after this guy and
a couple of other Yeah, Alabama in Texas and and
he got a major commitment there. Um And if you
look at the recruiting class rankings, maybe that's why he
was so excited, because he knows all the talent that's

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being brought in elsewhere and the idea again, I mean,
I used Tennessee as a jumping off point, but that's
the dead meaning like the average. There are fourteen teams
in the SEC, seven of them finished in the top ten.
Recruiting class rankings. So you know, you got a school
like Tennessee that felt pretty good about adding a couple
of four stars to end up in the top ten.

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But they're still behind Florida and Georgia, and they're still
behind Alabama and l s U and Texas A and
M and Auburn UM and there right smack dab at
average in the SEC. Whereas they be the best class
in the Pac twelve, second best in the Big Ten,
second best in the a SEC, second best in the
Big twelve. It's the SEC caliber of player is on

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a different level than any other conference. Uh. And that's
why you can argue, I mean, I don't even think
it's a crazy argument. You can argue it's harder to
win the SEC than it is the national championship because
if you get in the SEC, if you get into
the playoff, the SEC teams have had a tremendous amount
of success once they've gotten there. All right, When we
come back the Tom Brady question that I think a

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lot of people are asking, where is he gonna go?
I'll give you the latest odds on where Tom Brady
might end up, and we will debate if we think
he is going to leave, and if he is going
to leave where we think he should go. That will
come up next. This is outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis.

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We were talking about Tom Brady here uh and uh
Foxbet has got odds. I'm gonna pull up the most
recent futures odds here uh in the NFL and tell
you what the most recent are for Brady. Um. It's
interesting in terms of where he may go, and right
now he has favored to go to UH, favored to

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stay with the Patriots. And then you have both the
Raiders and the Chargers who have basically let it be
known that if he hits official free agency and considers leaving,
they want to be in the mix. Then you have
the Titans, the Colts, and right floating around out there
you have the Dallas Cowboys and so to me, as

(49:40):
I break down Brady's decision, I think the most likely
outcome is He's gonna stay in New England. And I
don't buy into this idea that he's going to demand
a certain dollar figure as a as a salary, because
he's made so much money over his career at this
point in time, and plus Gazel is so loaded at
is one of the biggest supermodels in the world that

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I think Brady can can be fine. Let me say
this too. I also have long bought into the conspiracy
theory that there's probably money going to Tom Brady outside
the salary cap. In other words, if you look at
how the Patriots have cheated over the years, would it
surprise anybody if Brady's for it? I don't know how

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you'd prove this. If your wife is a supermodel and
you are Robert Kraft, how could you prove that that
Giselle was getting paid too much to be a supermodel
if some of that money was coming from a Robert
Craft company. Think about that for a minute now. Some
people talk about TV twelve and whether there's a you know,

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under the table handshake deal there. But when your wife
is a superstar like Giselle is, and Giselle makes a
lot of years more money than Tom Brady as a supermodel,
how do you know where her money is coming from?
If ten million dollars that would otherwise have gone to
Tom Brady had otherwise gone to Gazelle for modeling, how

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does someone prove that? Does the NFL go in an
accounting style go over how Giselle is getting paid. In
other words, if the Patriots and Robert Craft and all
the businesses he owns have somehow figured out a way
to pay Gazelle ten million dollars extra a year for
her modeling deals, how would anybody know that? So I'm

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a conspiracy guy and that I believe Tom Brady has
taken less under the salary cap, but I think that
money has probably found its way to him anyway. And
I also have always asked what would stop a player
and a coach from having a handshake agreement that you're
gonna get to buy a part of the franchise after

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you're done at a rate that is below the market
value of the team. In other words, what would stop
Robert Craft and Tom Brady d for instance, having shook
hands and Diane and Robert Craft saying, Okay, Tom, when
you retire, I'm gonna sell you a fifty million dollar
steak in the New England Patriots. But it's only gonna

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cost you twenty million, and we'll make up the extra
thirty million that you're worth on the open market through
you buying a steak in the Patriots at a price
that's below what it would sell for on the market value.
How would you stop that from happening. I think it's
almost impossible. So I don't buy in. The reason why
I'm using this asn example is I don't buy in

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that Tom Brady is gonna be like, well, the Chargers
are offering me thirty two million dollars a year, but
the Patriots are only offering me twenty four. I'm gonna
go all the way across the country and leave the
Patriots over eight million dollars. I just don't buy that
that's gonna be the case. Now, if Brady leaves, I
can see an argument that he wants a two year
guaranteed contract and the Patriots are only offering him one year.

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I can definitely see something like that emerging as a
major story. And so Tom Brady feels like, hey, I've
got multiple years left to play. The Patriots don't believe
that I'm gonna go sign with a team that's willing
to commit multi years to me because I don't want
to have to do a year by year prove my
self contract to the New England Patriots at this point

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in time. So I believe the most likely by far
is that Brady stays with the Patriots, they go out,
they signed some new wide receivers, they sign a tight end,
they get him a lot better offensive weapons because the
defense was already really stout, and if they can go
out and make their offense better. That Mohammed Sanu trade
didn't work out. Julian Edelman is getting old. The loss
of Rob Gronkowski was fairly impactful in terms of it's uh,

(53:41):
it's it's it's substance, substantial impact on the on the
Patriots offense. So I don't think Brady is gonna leave.
That put me in the camp of Brady is gonna
come back. He's gonna play with the Patriots for at
least one more year and potentially two. But if he
were to leave, I don't get makes any sense at
all for him to go to the Chargers or to

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go to the Raiders. Why does it not make sense
for him to go to the Chargers of the Raiders,
Because that's Patrick Mahomes's division. And if you are a
smart businessman, which I believe Tom Brady is, he recognizes
that the way to win another Super Bowl title, which
is the only reason Brady is still playing at this point,
you need to win your Division. First, he doesn't want

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to come out of the wild card round like the
Patriots had to do this year. And he certainly doesn't
want to come out of the wild card round as
a five or six seed having to go on the
road for three straight weeks in order to try to
make the Super Bowl. That's what the Tennessee Titans tried
to do this year. They were the six seed. They
didn't win their division. They had to go on the
road against New England, had to go on the road

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against the Ravens, had to go on the road against
the Kansa City Chiefs. That's a really difficult road to
hoe to win three straight road games in the NFL playoffs,
Brady is going to look at the Raiders, and he's
going to look at the Chargers and say, I don't
like our chances to beat the Kansas the Chiefs in
this division, which means at best we would even if
we made the playoffs, we'd be the five or six seed.

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So I think, despite the fact that the Chargers may
want him desperately and that the Raiders may want him,
I think it makes no sense to go to the
a f C West. I think if Brady leaves New England.
He either should go to Indianapolis or Tennessee if those
jobs are open to him. Indianapolis not really sold on
Jacobe Brissette. I think they would love to have Tom Brady.

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Maybe Philip Rivers. I don't believe that the Titans want
to overpay Ryan Tannehill. So if Ryan Tannehills negotiations get contentious,
I think the Titans might be willing to say, you
know what, Tom Brady, you can hand the ball off
to Derrick Henry, you can throw it to A. J. Brown.
We got a good young offensive line. We have better
skill position talent than you do. Tom Brady. You know

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this because we just came on the road and we
beat you in New England. And the last two times
you've played against us, Tom Brady as a Patriot, we
have beaten you both of those times. So I think
there's an argument that Brady would recognize not to mention
that the Mike Vrabel connection, who's his good friend, you're
gonna be the head coach. I think that could make

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sense because I think Brady to the Colts or Brady
to the Titans makes that team the favorite to win
the a f C South, which means you get at
least one home playoff game, you can contend for the
bye week. If he's gonna leave the a c C
the a f C, then I think the play And
I heard Cowherd was talking about this yesterday. I started

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talking about it like a month ago. I think the
Dallas Cowboys can make sense. Reports are out there that
the Cowboys are gonna have to franchise Dak Prescott. That's
a sign that the Cowboys don't necessarily believe that Dak
is their long term answer at quarterback, because if they did,
they would want to sign Dac to a long term

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deal and not take the big million dollar salary Kip
cap hit all in one year. If you franchise a guy,
by and large, it means you aren't willing to commit
long term to him. And the analogy I've always used is, sorry,
as we get close to Valentine's Day, I might be
putting some guys on blast out there, But if you've

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been dating a girl for four years and you're not
ready to get married to her, you're not convinced that
she's the one now. There may be some exceptions, but
in general, if you are older than and you have
been dating a girl for four years and you haven't
given her an engagement ring. It's because you have significant

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questions about whether she's the right one for you and
you're trying to keep your options open. Sorry, ladies, that's
what's going on. Four years is plenty of time to
know if somebody is the one, and the Dallas Cowboys
have four years of starting quarterback data from Dak Prescott.
They know whether or not they believe he is the answer.

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If they are franchising him, the answer is they're not
that convinced he's the guy. And if you're not that
convinced that Dak is the guy, why not signed Tom
Brady for two years with your seventy eight year old owner,
Jerry Jones. You have an incredible offensive line. You just
signed Zeke Elliott long term. It allows you to free

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up and sign a Marii Cooper and you can let
Dak right off into the sunset and go find another destination.
Somebody else might be willing to sign him to a
long term deal. I'm not sure. I'd love to see
what the market is for Dak Prescott if he were
an unrestricted free agent. If you aren't willing to sign
him to an extension. Now, then you know and guess what,

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Dak Prescott knows that too. One reason your girl gets
mad at you when you've been dating for a long
time and she sees all her other friends getting engaged
and getting long term commitments from their boyfriends is because
in the back of her mind, she knows that you
know that you aren't sold on her too. And what
does that do to the relationship. It deteriorates it in

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a hurry. If you've ever gone on a trip with
a girl that you've been dating for a long time
and she's thinking she might get the engagement ring and
she doesn't. What happens on the flight back? It ain't
a fun flight. Something bothering you, No, no, nothing. In
her mind, she's thinking, I just thought we're going on

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an African safari. I just thought you're taking me to Europe.
I just thought we're going down to this exclusive resort
in the Caribbean. We've been dating for how long? This
is what she's thinking in her mind. I just thought
maybe you were finally gonna propose to me. That's what
Dad's gonna be thinking. Dak is gonna be sitting around

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on that airplane looking at Jerry Jones being like, what's up?
You only paid me two points seven million dollars over
the last four years. You drafted me in the fourth round.
You say, I'm your guy. Why in the world are
you franchise tagging me when I deserve to be paid
at an extremely high level. Jared Goff got a ring,

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Carson Wentz got a ring, Patrick Mahomes about to get
a ring, Russell Wilson got a ring. All those places
they were willing to commit to their quarterback. Why aren't
you committing to me. You're treating me like Kirk Cousins.
You know what happened with Kirk Cousins, double franchise tags, boom,
He's out. Redskins didn't believe in him. Cowboys don't believe

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in Dak. That's what this franchise talk is telling you.
And so if you don't believe in your quarterback, that's
gonna lead to tension. If I were Dak Prescott, I
would hold out. You know why, because Ezekiel Elliott held
out and he had a contract and he got paid.

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Zeke held out. It's still having time left on his
contract and he got a big dollar salary. Why in
the world. Would Dak Prescott show up at camp for
the Cowboys if their franchise tagging him and try to
smile and act like he's happy, He's not gonna be.
So I think if Brady's gonna leave the a f C,

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and he may not want to, because remember when when
Peyton Manning did his big Tour. I think a big
reason why he stayed at Denver and stayed in the
a f C was because he was very familiar with
all those teams. He didn't want to go over to
the NFC and suddenly have to get refamiliarized with all
the teams that he hadn't played that often. He knew
the a f C pretty well. And so if Brady

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wants to stay in the a f C, the culture,
the Titans are his best bets. If he wants to
leave the Dallas Cowboys and go to the NFC, I
think the Dallas Cowboys are the best possible fit. And
if you're a Cowboy fan, you're out there listening to
me right now, you're kind of slowly NodD in your head. Head.
I bet Jerry Jones, seventy eight years old, you go

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with Brady for two years forty three year old quarterback.
You feel like you could win the NFC, especially if
you get a Marie Cooper resigned. You'll look at the
overall talent gallops coming on. Jarman's pretty solid tight end,
young guys still developing. That offensive line is great. Ezekiel
Elliott would be the best running back that Tom Brady's

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ever played with in his career. You can argue that
a Mari Cooper would be the best young wide receiver
he's ever had. Randy Moss wasn't young. That defense is
stout when everybody's healthy, Laden vander esh is coming back
off of an injury. I can make you an argument
the Cowboys are a better team with Brady, and I

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started asking that question about a month ago. But I
do do think it gets ratcheted up to the next
level with the talk of Dak potentially getting franchised. You
buy my analysis here, Danny g Yeah, And the reason
why Colin brought it up on his show yesterday was
because he said he would rather give Brady thirty million
than Dak thirty eight million. Well, I don't think there's

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any anybody who is arguing that Dac deserves thirty eight
million is crazy. I think DAC is Jimmy Garoppolo, And
I don't mean that as a negative. I mean that
Jimmy Garoppolo is a average to good quarterback in the NFL.
Not a bad choice, right. I think Garoppolo is like
the thirteenth or fourteenth best quarterback in the NFL. I

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think we gotta give Prescott a little more credit. I
think that Dac is around the thirteenth or fourteenth best
quarterback in the NFL. I think he's Jimmy Garoppolo. I
think if he got you into into the playoffs. First
of all, he hasn't done very well once he's gotten
you into the playoffs, so let's start there. But if
he gets you into the playoffs, I think at some
point in time, you need him to make plays, and

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he's not gonna be able to do it. Just like
Jimmy Garoppolo. If the defense plays phenomenally well and they
keep you with a double digit lead and you never
really have to make that many big three oros, you'll
be fine. But I think the difference between Patrick Mahomes,
Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, A Drew Brees, all these guys
that are at the top of the quarterback rankings is

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that when you put them in a tough spot, they
don't miss the throw that Jimmy g missed in UH
late in the fourth quarter when you got a touchdown
pass that can win you the game. I've just seen
Dac missed too many throws in big points in time,
and I don't think you can give him. Look, would
I give him thirty million a year? Maybe maybe I'd
give him thirty million a year because that's about what

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i'd have to franchise tagging. But I wouldn't want to
give him a long term deal. And I don't blame
the Cowboys for franchise tagging because I think they're still
uncertain about his long range future. Man, it would be
like a bomb going off because the dominoes falling. If
Jerry Jones went after Brady, then who would go after
Dak Prescott? Do you think maybe John Gruden would go

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after Prescott? Well, I think there'll be a lot of
people who would kick the tires. I'm and I think
that you'd probably have UH and it would be interesting
to see how many that. That to me would be
the great question because one reason why you can't pay
thirty eight million dollars to Dak Prescott is I don't
think there's anybody in the NFL who would pay him
thirty eight million dollars. I'm not sure there's anybody in
the NFL who would pay him thirty million dollars. There

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might be some teams that would pay him twenty five.
I mean, I think if that would take it tires,
he would be on a revenge tour at that point,
and he'd probably be okay with taking less. Yeah, I mean,
I look, I think that everybody who has an opening
would kick the tires. But UH with the Tampai Buccaneers
certainly would the Uh would the Indianapolis Colts. Yes, I
think the Titans would have to look at it. They

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don't have a quarterback right now. I think the Charger
certainly would. Maybe the Chargers is the answer, because they're
desperate for attention, and Dak Prescott going to the Chargers
would get a lot of attention. But you know, I
mean maybe even the Bengals. You know, if you sit
around near the Bengals, you say, hey, would we rather
have Dak Prescott and take Chase Young number one overall
or potentially trade that number one pick? Or would we

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rather have Joe Burrow, Um, I think those are those
are interesting questions that would be out there. What do
you think, dub Patriots, if Tom Brady goes to the Cowboys,
they certainly have a quarterback opening. But I agree with you.
I think Tom Brady, especially at a thirty million dollar price,
I mean you look at the Cowboys roster, at least
on offense and at every single position, I would say
they're better than the Patriots have at least last year.

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Wide receiver, offensive line, tied end, running back, all across
the board. The Cowboys are the more talented team. So
to get Brady in that system with those players, I
think it'd be something that Jerry Jones is definitely thinking about.
And you're right if he made by the way, with
Mike McCarthy, who I bet Tom Brady has decent you know,
respect for more so maybe than he would have Jason Garrett.

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Oh the I don't think there's any question about that.
McCarthy is a guy that's won a Super Bowl and
he's been there and done that with two Hall of
Fame quarterbacks and Brett Farvan Aaron Rodgers, so he knows
how to handle the big names. And Tom Brady is
the biggest of all the names. So I think it's
something first of all, I want to see because it
would just be for us, you know, selfishly and for
everybody really. But yeah, I think this is something. I

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think this has more legs than than people are giving
it credit for, because I think there's a lot of
people think, hey, this is just a you know, a
fun topic to talk about on sports talk radio. But
this makes so much sense to me that I think
it's more of a reality than than most people think.
What do you think, Eddie. I gotta be honest, I
had not considered Dallas. Uh, and the possibilities, as you

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guys have touched on, is unbelievable. As it's not crazy, right,
I mean, I think initially when you say it, people
are like, oh, this is a crazy conversation. But when
I brought it up and it's funny. I think I
brought it up for the first time on Walk it
In about a month ago because cousin sal is a
big Dallas cowboy fan, and I just hit him with
that hypothetical. You know, like, you look at all the

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talent that you have on the offensive side of the ball,
are you really telling me that if you had to
invest thirty million dollars in a quarterback, you wouldn't rather
have Brady or over Dad. And Jerry Jones is just
the guy to do something at his age. At his age,
I mean, I think that factors in because his goal
is to win another Super Bowl. It's been twenty five years.
If you could get the greatest quarterback of all time

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to bring him in, I mean the question would be
based on his age. But I don't think you would
need Brady to win the games for you, right, I mean,
with their talent, it's an unbelievable thought. I I just
and I'm not a Cowboys fan, but just to have
it happen and see the dominoes fall from there would
be amazing. What do you think the OutKick audience is

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gonna say? I'm gonna put up a poll. Be sure
to catch live editions of Outkicked the coverage with Clay
Travis week days at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Couple of you are having a fantastic Thursday wherever you
may be across the country. We're coming up on seven
hours a mass stuff for me, Yes, seven hours till
the NBA trade deadline this year. But we're talking about

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what I think is a more interesting question, Tom Brady
versus Dak Prescott, if the Cowboys are actually going to
franchise Dac. We are rolling here and you know it's
a good poll question when uh this this only has
been up for five minutes already, two thousand of you
have voted. You can go vote yourself. You can find

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me on Twitter at Clay Travis, easy to find. Would
you rather have Tom Brady for next year or Dak Prescott?
Two thousand of you vote in the first five minutes
fifty two percent, Brady forty eight percent, Dak nearly a
fifty fifty breakdown in terms of what the American sports

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fan thinks of the Dallas Cowboy decision. There, what would
you guys do Dak or Brady for next year? Start
with you, Danny g Well. Roberto brought up a good
point in the studio here during the break. He was
telling me that with that franchise tag, then you could
guarantee yourself a Marii Cooper. You'd have Brady throwing to Cooper.
I think for the age of Jerry Jones, it makes sense.

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So Brad, like a lot of people roll their eyes
when I initially brought it up, But when you actually
sit down and start to work through the argument, which
is what you'd have to do if you're Jerry Jones
and everything else, Which guy gives you a better chance
to win a Super Bowl next year and maybe the
year after that? To me, it's Tom Brady. To me,
it's Tom Brady. And I don't think it's a difficult question. Now,

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if you're deciding to go with Dak, you're saying, okay,
because Dad's a lot younger, I want him. But if
your franchise tagging Dak, that means you're not really convinced
the long range future of the Cowboys is with Dak Prescott.
What about what about you, dub Which way do you go?
I'm rolling with Brady. I mean, I think he's gonna be,
you know, at worst, just as expensive as Dak Prescott.

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And you know what you're getting with Brady. You give
him a run game, you give him those weapons, and
I think it's, I mean, not a no brainer, but
it's I'd lean pretty strongly to Brady here. What about you, Eddie?
I would go Brady as well. I think we've seen
what Dak is capable of. I think he's at his
ceiling and maybe Brady is descending. I still would rather

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take my chances on winning a title with someone who's
done it before than someone I don't think we'll ever
be able to do it. What about you? What about you, Roberto?
Do you make unanimous? I don't know, man, I they're
not gonna win with Dad. I mean, I think you
can franchise Dad, but I don't. I don't know if
I think Tom Brady's done, I don't know. I think
he's finished. I don't think people using that an excuse
that he didn't have weapons in New England. Yeah, he

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didn't have the weapons. But I think he's done. Man.
They still went twelve and four, and if Julian Edelman
catches the past that he catches ninety five times out
of a hundred, they might have beaten the Titans and
gone on the road and had a chance to do
to the Ravens what the Titans did. UH votes in
right now, fifty four percent of you saying you would
rather have Brady for next season as a Dallas Cowboy

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quarterback than Dak Prescott. I'll open a phone line see
if anybody has any arguments that maybe we haven't contemplated
as we go into our three eight seven, seven nine
nine six six three six nine eight seven seven six
six three six nine, assuming our phone lines are working,
are we missing some thing in the Deck versus Brady
argument that you think we should be contemplating as a

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part of this discussion. You can weigh in eight seven seven,
three six nine. This is outkicked the coverage with Clay Travis.
The NBA trade deadline is seven hours away overnight, maybe
while some of you were sleeping. Andrea A. Guadala, who
never showed up, never played for Memphis, has been traded

(01:12:26):
to Miami and gotten a new two year, thirty million
dollar contract. It's good work if you can get it. Uh.
Talk is that the Rockets are trying to make a move,
the Warriors trying to get underneath the luxury tax move
a couple of shooters to the Philadelphia seventies six ers.
So far, nothing really major. Clint Capella to the Atlanta
Hawks is the biggest move that has happened so far,

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I would say. Andrea Guadala, obviously is a move that
the Miami Heat are making to try and make a
run at the Milwaukee Bucks, who are right now, the
prohibitive favorite in the Eastern Conference to advance to the
NBA Finals. Um the one guy that is being pursued
by both the Lakers and the Clippers, Marcus Morris out

(01:13:09):
of the New York Knicks. There is talk that that
could happen between now and four o'clock Eastern, So our sorry,
three o'clock Eastern. That is what is going on right
now in the world of the NBA. We are having
an interesting discussion in the world of the NFL, which
I will get to in a minute. But for many

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of you waking up, we had the college football Signing Day,
Part two. Want to hit you with the top ten.
We talked about this sum at the start of our
two top ten Georgia winds and National Recruiting Championship. For
the second time in three years. Alabama always up at
the top finish his second, Clemson third, l s U fourth,

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Ohio State fifth, sixth, Texas A and M seventh, Auburn eight,
Florida nine, Texas ent spot Tennessee. No other conference has
more than one team in the top ten. The SEC
has seven, the Big twelve one top ten recruiting class,

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the Big Ten one Top ten recruiting class, the a
C C one top ten recruiting class, the SEC seven,
the Pack twelve doesn't even have a top ten recruiting class.
Oregon at number twelve is the best they've got. Tennessee
finished tenth in the country, seventh in the SEC. They

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would be at tenth in the country, the best team
in the PAC twelve from recruiting class rankings, second best
in the Big twelve, second best in the a SEC,
and second best in the Big ten. That's how much
talent the SEC continues to rack up. But our poll
question this morning, Tom Brady unrestricted free agent Dak Prescott

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a free agent that could be franchise tagged uh and
I'm asking you the question has been up now for
twenty minutes. The Cowboys are considering franchising Dak Prescott instead
of franchising a guy. Would you be interested if you
were really being astute here and potentially signing Brady and

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letting Dak Prescott go. If you are seventy eight year
old owner Jerry Jones, how would you make this decision?
Would you rather have Tom Brady or Dak Prescott for
next year? Fifty four percent of you with five thousand
votes in fifty percent of you are saying you'd rather
have Tom Brady, forty percent of you are saying you'd

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rather have Dak Prescott. Now, my argument is, if the
Cowboys are going to franchise Tag Dak Prescott, ultimately me
that means they aren't sure about him in the long term,
and they want another year to look at him, to
analyze him, to try to figure out if he's the
right guy. This is a lot like being a girl

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in a relationship who wants the engagement ring and you've
been dating a guy for years and he hasn't given
you the ring yet, and I'm sorry. If you're driving
into work or school this morning and you happen to
have your girlfriend sitting next to you and you've been
dating her for four or five years and you haven't
proposed to her yet, and you're you know, thirty year older. Sorry, babe,

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he's holding out. See if you can get a better deal.
That's what the Cowboys are doing. When you franchise Tag somebody,
you're saying, Hey, you're the best I can get right now,
but I'm not really sure about you in the long range.
Unanimously on the show, everybody likes the odds of Tom
Brady with this offensive line and these weapons of winning
a title with him over winning a title with Doc

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eight seven seven three six nine. A lot of people
want to weigh in. I'm asking if we're missing anything
in our analysis. Dub who's up first? All right, we
got Eddie in Texas? Eddie, what you think? Good morning?
I don't think it's gonna happen because I don't think, uh,
Jerry Jones wants to start out with the drama of

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mccarth with the you know Brady, and then Brady comes
in and Ezekiel runs the wrong route and he choose
his ass out and goes crazy and Zechael pounds and
I think it's just way too much drama. I think
they'll just take seek and let McCarthy do his magic,
and then after one year I mean en franchising, then
they can they can go from there. I mean, I

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think this is really the best scenario. All right, I
appreciate the call. The one thing I'm gonna have to
shoot down here is the idea that Jerry Jones is
going to be opposed to drama. This dude loves drama.
He knows it's good for ratings. No other owner has
meetings with the media after every game where he sits
and answers questions that his coach then has to deal

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with that his players didn't have to deal with. How
many other times have you seen an owner address the
media as often as Jerry Jones did while Ezekiel Elliott
was holding out Jerry Joe. The idea that Jerry Jones
is not going to do something because it has too
much drama is to me crazy talk. Who's up next,
dub We got Dean in Indianapolis. Dean, what do you think? Hey,

(01:18:15):
I think you're exactly right. I just want to, uh say,
we loved your show here in Indy Clay, but I
think it's great. Bring Tom Brady and um, you know,
Dac has had his time, um the thirty eight million
or whatever he's asking right now, there's there's difficulty right
there and talking about drama. Well, hey, look at this
marketing genius that he is bringing. Brady signing for two

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years and maybe maybe three if you can get an
extra one out of him, and that puts the Cowboys
at the top of the meter on the NFC side.
I really believe that because Dak has had his opportunities.
I'm a huge Cowboy fan. But then Dad opens up
the door for Dak to go somewhere else. You got.
The cults are looking, the Chargers are looking, the Raiders

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are looking. But bring Tom Brady on. It's been too long.
He's been twenty five years, and Jerry's not gonna be
around much longer, and neither am I because I'm fifty
seven and I'm tired of Wad. Thanks for the call. Uh. Look,
if Dak Prescott were saying, hey, I want twenty five
million a year, I want a four year, hundred million

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dollar deal, twenty five million dollars a year, I'd be
tempted to do that. If I were Jerry Jones. If
Dak Prescott is saying I want to be the highest
paid quarterback in the NFL, that's crazy talk. It's absolute
balder dash, and I would say, you know what, good riddance.
I'm gonna go get Tom Brady. Who's up next? We
got Toby in Texas. Toby, what do you think? Back

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Morning Love Show? You're the first thing I listened to
it every morning. I appreciate that. I will say this week,
Cowboys fans are impatient. We're fickle and uh we we
sim to not look lost term Tom Brady deal is
completely famous. If we if Jerry was going to do
that the first year that Dad came out and he

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was read hot while Romo was hurt, Romo was good
to go back to whenever they came back to the
playoffs and came out and absolutely lit it up. And
Romo at that time had earned it. He had earned
a chance to come in with that team that he
had built, with that offensive line that he had never had,
and have a chance to go get his ring. And
Jerry went with Dak. I think that is made with Dak.

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I think that uh he he feels that that Dak
was going to uh franchise in one is a thirty
million free that's close to where he wants to be
with him, and he's gonna let it play out and
let Dak either earn it next year or he's gonna
use next year as fodder for to uh negotiate. I

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think Dak is our man, all right, I understand that,
But if you franchise tag Dac, I'm just gonna be
honest with you. If I'm advising Prescott, I tell him
not to show up at training camp, and I think
that's where the complexities began, because I think the way
that Jerry Jones handled Ezekiel Elliott sent a bad message

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to other guys who feel like they have contracts that
aren't reflecting their value. And if I'm Dak Prescott and
I'm Dak Prescott's representative, I'm gonna sit back. I'm gonna
say this all right, I'm gonna say wait a minute,
I played quarterbacks, starting quarterback for you for the Dallas
Cowboys for four years. You paid me two point seven
million dollars. Let me repeat that, you paid me two

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point seven million dollars. Skip Bayliss got paid twenty four
million dollars over the past four years to talk about
me playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. I got two
point seven million to actually play quarterback. You need to
pay me for all of the value you already got

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from the four years of me as starting quarterback act
and for the value that I'm giving you going forward. Furthermore,
while Ezekiel Elliott, who was under contract, didn't show up
to play, I've played and fulfilled all the terms of
my contract. Now I don't have a contract at all,
And unlike Ezekiel Elliott, who you were willing to make

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the highest paid running back in the league. You're gonna
try to franchise Tag me on the year when I
become a free agent. We're not going to deal with that.
I'm not showing up to training camp now. I'm not
saying he would sit out like Levian Bell did for
a year in order to try to prove a point,
or that he's gonna sit out and show up suddenly,

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you know, eight games into the season. I think Doc
would probably show up and play begrudgingly, but I think
the ill will that you would provoke among your team
leader would be substantial. So if your choices franchise Dad
or get Brady under a deal, and potentially franchise Tag

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Mariy Cooper if you need to, I don't see that
as being a very difficult decision. Well I'll go to
calls here in a sec. But you guys agree with
me that if like, take pretend that you are Dak
Prescott's agent, I'm telling him not to show up for
training camp if the Cowboys are going to franchise my guy,
because I'm saying you took care of Zeke when he

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held out Why should I show up and get a
much worse deal than Diek than Zeke got. Does that
make sense to you? Danny g As advisement. I keep
coming back to how old Jerry Jones is because he's
not getting any younger. We know that his ultimate goal
is to win one more Super Bowl before he passes away.
With that in mind, because I've been seeing a lot

(01:23:49):
of tweets coming into us saying, you guys are looking
at this wrong because long term Dak is way better. Yeah,
hold on, let me say that. Responded to that, I
don't think that's true. If you believe in Dak Prescott
long term, then you would work out a long term
deal with him. If you are franchise tagging a guy,
you don't believe in him long term, that's why you franchise.

(01:24:12):
And now you can say, well, he wants too much money,
but that's a sign that you don't believe in him
long term. Like the Chiefs are not franchise tagging Patrick Mahomes.
They could, but they believe he's their guy forever, so
they want to sign him to as long of a
deal as they can. They are a certain that he
is their guy. This the Seahawks didn't franchise Tag Wressell

(01:24:34):
Russell Wilson, they could have the the The Eagles, for
better or worse, didn't franchise Tag Carson Wentz. They could
have a franchise Tagg a guy when you're not a
believer necessarily in him. I mean when we've argued about
Dak Prescott on the show in the past, even the
last offseason. That was my argument was to get him

(01:24:54):
signed before this all happened, which is what is happening
right now. He is the team's leader. You don't want
this hovering over the team. I don't think he would
show up, dub Would you tell him to show up
if you were, if you were advising him based on
what you saw happen with the Zekiel Elliott, especially after
a Zeke because exactly what you want to hold out

(01:25:16):
you get a better contract, and he doesn't even have
a contract, so he has even better reason to be
holding out. There's no doubt about it. If I were
advising him, I'd say, hey, you're you're running may You're
running back. He held out, look what it got him,
so I would do the exact same thing. I know
he's the quarterback, but if you want to get paid,
this is what you do. It's kind of like the
formula now for the Cowboys, if you want to get

(01:25:37):
paid in your face of their franchise. What about you, Eddie? Yeah,
I'm not just the Cowboys. This is the play in
the NFL the president has been set with with other players.
It's it's the only play that he has. I think
he all right, let me get a couple more of
your calls. Who we got, Who we got going to?
Uh dub We got a couple left. They're both named
Jeff and they're both from California. But we're gonna go

(01:25:57):
to Jeff M first. All right, f M, thank you. Um.
I am a Patriot fan. I don't want Brady to leave,
but I mean it makes sense for the Cowboys. They're
not going to pay Dak. They don't want that. Yeah,
I mean if they wanted, they're going to pay him.
And he wait, like you said, four years, but he

(01:26:19):
hasn't done anything. Yeah, so yeah, I just want to
call him first time caller. Thanks thanks for the call, Jeff.
I look, I think that again, if you are a
Cowboy fan out there, who's saying, well, Dak is a
lot younger than Brady. I think you'll look at the
next two years, not the not not the next seven,
because if you believed in Dak Prescott for the next

(01:26:41):
seven years, you would sign him a long term. It's like,
the reason why the Titans just picked up the fifth
year option on Mariota and didn't sign him a long
term is they didn't believe in him yet. The reason
why the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did the same thing with
Jamis Winston is because they didn't believe him yet. They
wanted to see that fifth year and see how they did.

(01:27:03):
That's effectively the same place it seems to me the
Cowboys are in because they're not willing to pay Doc
long term. If you're not willing to pay a guy
long term, my argument would be you kind of have
a pretty good sign that he's not your guy, because
if your franchise tag a guy, what you're hoping for
is you'll see something suddenly in year five and you'll say, oh,

(01:27:25):
this is the guy. You're still looking for a reason
why to commit to him? The other Jeff, what you
got for me? Also in California, Thanky Um Jerry Jones
was always out to the biggest prize, and I think
you guys sit on something and I think if if not,
that he's not thinking about this, But I think Gal
Jones would fight on something like this. Now the flip side,

(01:27:48):
I feel truly a bit England. I mean, accomlish everything
he had. I hate when a guy waits for a
long time and then his phone dies. That sounded like
he was going to have a good take too. Yeah,
I know, maybe you can call back, but it isn't
that always. I always feel bad when we were like
the last caller we go to, He's been waiting a while,

(01:28:09):
he's gonna have a good take, and then his phone dies.
What's that the equivalent of? It's like getting a delay again,
I'm trying to think in the sports equivalent, it's like
making a like making a jumper after the clock expires,
Like you go back and you look and you're like, ah,
the ball is still on his fingertips. It's like Garoppolo
missing Emmanuel Sanders with his long pet too soon, too soon?

(01:28:31):
All right, Uh, we will take more of your calls
to close out the show on this Deck versus Brady
debate because I do think it's a good one. And again,
let me go to the poll question and see how
people are voting, because I always think it's interesting. You know,
it's a good poll question when it's relatively even, right
like there isn't one side that's just dominating. And right

(01:28:53):
now we've got seven thousand of you who have voted
in the first half hours. There's a lot of interest
in this seven dollar enough you have voted. Fifty three
percent say you'd rather have Brady as the Dallas Cowboy
quarterback next year. Forty seven percent of you say you
would rather have Dak And if you want to go
read all the arguments that people are making underneath UH

(01:29:13):
that you can certainly go check it out UM at
Clay Travis on Twitter. Go cast your vote way in
in the comments. If you want to get into debate there. Uh,
there's lots of people going back and forth in a
variety of different directions there. H So we will discuss
you guys can dive in there and break it down.
Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked the coverage

(01:29:34):
with Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern three
am Pacific. All right, we bring in now Dr David
Chow at Pro Football Doc on Twitter. UH and I
know you are a medical expert, Doc, but I want
to get your opinion on this. Cowboys are considering franchising
Dak Prescott. Tom Brady is an unrestricted free agent. He

(01:29:55):
can't be franchised. He can go anywhere in the NFL
that he wants. Our poll question is Jerry Jones seventy
eight years old. I believe if he wants to win
a Super Bowl in the short term, that appears to
be his goal. Do you think the odds are better
with Brady next season or with Doc next season? And
before you answer, it's nearly even. In our poll question,

(01:30:16):
almost ten thousand of you now have voted in the
first hour. You can vote at Clay Travis on Twitter.
Fifty three percent saying Brady, forty seven percent saying Doc.
What say you, Doc? You're saying when this next year?
Win next year? Yeah, because the talk is they're gonna
franchise Doc. So if you're franchising somebody, that means you're

(01:30:38):
only committing to them for one year. So really, the
Cowboys are trying to decide what quarterback do we commit
to for the next year? Yeah, you know, you know
who can get Tom Brady and love him, But Yeah,
you got to look at the overall scheme and in etcetera.
And as great as Brady is, if you're telling me
you're bringing over Josh Leac Daniels in this whole offense, etcetera. Uh,

(01:31:00):
I might say Brady, but I would have to lean
towards Dak just because there's a learning curve for everybody.
And you know, Tom Brady is as smart as they come,
but they're still teaching an older dog new tricks. And
I'd have to say, Doc, Uh, good answer. Interesting about it.
There's no wrong answer here because it's basically a fifty
fifty question, which is a good example. You know, when

(01:31:22):
it's a fifty question, it probably means it's a pretty
good debate. All right, let's get into a few of
these questions. Patrick Mahomes in his celebration said, Hey, my
knee was sideways. Uh, my kneecap was sideways, and we
still found a way to win a title. He's gonna
have offseason surgery. Expectation is he's going to get the
biggest contract in the history of the game. Chiefs fans

(01:31:46):
still still celebrating their Super Bowl win. But what's the
long range projectory projection? For Patrick Mahomes based on that knee, well,
you know it was reported by you, Rappaport and others
that he's very loose jointed, loose ligamented, And that makes

(01:32:06):
total sense because that's why he has a sliding shot
for an arm and can throw a ball out of
a stadium, etcetera. If you're loose jointed in your shoulder,
that's an advantage. When you're more loose jointing in your knee,
there's an advantage in that when your kneecap goes out
that you tear less structures. But when your kneecap moves
out three inches to the side, it comes back here.

(01:32:27):
Clearly things are stretched. This is why I said all
along that surgery is a consideration. I don't know that
it's been announced, etcetera yet. And the reason why is
the chance of the ligaments that were stretched that we're
already loose, aren't really going to tighten up. And if
you really look at his play, he's unbelievable. And and look,

(01:32:48):
I said from the get go he would turn in
three or four weeks. He would turn in three and
a half weeks from that Thursday game. But I don't
know that he's as dynamic, and if you look at
his play calls and what they've had him do, it's
shifted some if you really look at what's going on,
and they were smart to do that. Now is this
now a permanent shift and they're just going to be careful?

(01:33:08):
They're playing a little bit of Russian roulette. I did
talk to some other doctors that inter emily. None of
these doctors had examined Patrick Mahomes and so everyone says,
including me, that as on what his exam looks like.
And I haven't examined him, but surgery is a consideration
because I think everyone would kick themselves if his knee

(01:33:31):
kepp came out again and this time, let's say some
articulate cartilage got knocked off and there was some long
term implications. The bottom line is you gotta pay this guy.
When they're gonna pay him, I don't know, but I
don't think the medical situation changes that. Do you think
he will have surgery in the off season. I think
it's a discussion and consideration. And if he's not going

(01:33:53):
to have surgery, Like like I said, I haven't examined him.
But my worry is always big picture and long term,
because you don't want to kick yourself that here's this
fantastic young talent and if there's some bad luck and
you know, and he gets hit again or his kneecap
slides out again, that he has long term implications and

(01:34:18):
then everyone would really regret it. So I think it's
a discussion that probably has been had, but has to
be based on, uh, the findings between him and his doctor.
All Right, Another guy who obviously has major, major issues
with his injuries but seems like he's recovering is to
a tour. Was at Radio Row last week, which is

(01:34:41):
probably I think you would agree a decent sign if
they're putting him on a plane and flying him down
to Miami and having him walk around Radio Row and
talk to media everywhere. Sure he got paid some money
for that, but if there were legitimate concerns about his health,
I don't think you'd put him on an airplane, fly
him all the way to Miami and have him spend
time walking around Radio Row to do interviews as a

(01:35:01):
preliminary Is that a decent hypothesis from me? Well? Yes,
because if it were a disaster, you wouldn't have him there.
So I think all that tells you is that it's
not disaster, right, He's he's progressed the full weight bearing.
He's gotten rid of his crutch. And and I did
see him there and talk to him some there. I

(01:35:21):
didn't try and submarine him with too much other talk
of medical talk. But what a nice kid. And he
was with his parents and they were as nice as
can be. And so I was always rooting for him,
and uh, rooting for him even more. And you know,
he did talk about a little bit how painful that was.
I mean, if you really go back to it, I mean,

(01:35:42):
the kid dislocated his hip. That is one of the
most painful things that can happen, and he admitted that.
And to get him up and try and move him
to the cart, I mean he admitted he was really
dying in pain that on the attempt to move into
the cart. And then you know, the temp to use
that athletic trainer to support him. And so he is

(01:36:03):
really as tough as they come. I think the proof
is going to be when you look at the studies
going forward in terms of what he has. And look,
my suspicion right now is that as long as he
can avoid the avasi necrosis, which so far has been
said that that he's going to. His issue is then

(01:36:23):
long term arth writers in his hip, not short term
problems in his hip, long term arthwriters in his hip.
So with the state of the NFL and people drafting
through one contract and so forth, at this point, my
best guest is, I don't see how he gets through
Miami at five. Would you consider him that number one overall?
Because that's what Todd McShay said recently. He said, No,

(01:36:45):
I know Joe Burrow has been all the talk, but
he's like two is better. Yeah, you know that's above
my pay grade because of uh, you know that's a
g MS job. My job is to give my health
health status. We know Joe Burrows a percent healthy. We
know that to A is not a d percent healthy
right now. Uh And ultimately, like you're trying to balance

(01:37:08):
it out, but is his health so significant that you
would be like, hey, I wouldn't take this guy number
one overall or you're saying he'd go You think the
Dolphins at five is doable? Is theoretically the Bengals at
one doable as well? If if the question is um
TOA is a better player and where is he at

(01:37:31):
with his hip. Can we take him at number one?
I would say, silencing. I haven't examined him or any
of the imaging studies. I would say, if you're telling
me all you care about is the first contract the
five years, I'd say, yes, you could take him at one.

(01:37:51):
If you're telling me we're drafting this guy to be
with us for fifteen years, then I would lean towards no.
It's a good answer. Can you come back for the
final segment with us? Because I got a couple more
questions I want to hit you with. Sure this is
out kicked the coverage with Clay Travis. Dr. David chow
Is with us, a couple of questions for you here

(01:38:13):
as we finish off the show. And by the way,
you can go vote in our poll question. Over ten
thousand of you voted so far in the first hour.
Cowboys considering franchise, tagging Dak who would you rather have
next season as your quarterback if you were owner? Jerry Jones,
Tom Brady or Dak Prescott. Fifty three percent of you
say Tom Brady, forty seven percent of you say Dak Prescott.

(01:38:34):
Big meeting out in l A between the NFL owners
and the NFL Players Association to discuss moving to seventeen games.
How much of an injury issue do you think adding
an additional game is uh in your mind? Dr Chow, Well,
there's no question there is more of an injury issue.
But the devil is in the details. Are you gonna

(01:38:55):
go seventeen games and have the same fifty three man
roster in FLOYE six be active with seven inactives or
are you changing that too? Are you going seventeen games
and still one bye week? Or is it seventeen games
and you're adding a second bye week to mitigate some
of the injuries in the data? Are you taking away
one or two preseason games to help mitigate with that?

(01:39:16):
What's going on and the final nut to see if
this is gonna passes. Let's say someone has already signed
a sixteen million dollars a year contract. Are you now
paying him seventeen million automatically or waiting for the next contract.
So the devil's in the details at all of this,
not just the seventeen games. Personally, That's why I still
like the at a second bye week, then you have

(01:39:39):
eighteen weeks of TV, more fantasy and and dfs intrigued
in terms of what's going on. Take away one preseason game,
don't add anything and keep everything just as safe, but
have more TV football for an extra week, and that's
where the revenue is. Eagles are firing their staff on
the medical staff. This is a big move. Why they

(01:40:01):
had obviously a lot of injuries. Is this kind of
blaming the doctors for the injuries. Well, you know, I'm
not on the inside, so I can't tell you why.
And they're not firing their entire medical staff. It's it's
just some of their medical staff. And and here's the thing.
It's what's happened in Philadelphia is unprecedented. I'm not saying
who's right, who's wrong. I'm just observing it's unprecedented. It's

(01:40:23):
unprecedented to let go your head athletic trainer, your head
team orthopedist, and your head UH primary care physician over
sixty years of experience, all in one year after you
win the Super Bowl. I mean, when you should be
really happy about what happened, injuries or not. And then
you have changes for the third straight year in a row,

(01:40:45):
which is also unprecedented. And here's the thing that I
would observe from afar. Would you ever have a team
where you have a first year head coach, a first
year offensive coordinator, and a first year a key quarterback.
Probably not right. That's just not a good combination in
terms of having some balance of experience. Well, that's kind

(01:41:08):
of medically what they did. The orthopedes with a lot
of experience was gone. The medical doctor that a lot
of experience has gone, and it's a new athletic trainer.
The new guys may be very good. But you know,
would you do that on a football team, as I
just said, with the QB, the head coach and the
offensive coordinator, I don't think you ever would. All right,

(01:41:29):
let's go to the NBA for a minute, Zion. What
have you seen from him in terms of his return
so far? How comfortable are you about his health and
his pregnosis going forward. I think he's a transcendent, great talent,
but he's still in a little bit of preseason fom
he's even admitted his second hop isn't there. I mean,
his vertical is through the roof. He's only going to

(01:41:51):
get better. Uh. The other thing is where he's quote
come down to earth a little bit, is since the
last time we talked after he played, and we talked
about him in his beauties four for four, four on
three pointers and they almost set shot three pointers. I
don't think you said another one since yeah, so uh
that's uh, that's where he's come down to earth a
little bit. But he's still unbelievable and and still has

(01:42:12):
a very high ceiling. It's the long term that we do.
We just have to watch. Uh, no doubt at all.
Dr Chow. I appreciate the time. Have a good Thursday
out in the south southern California area, and we'll talk
to you again next week. Thank you. That is Dr Chow.
A lot of fiery talked this morning. Encourage you to
go download the podcast good debate about Brady versus Prescott.

(01:42:34):
I think Dr Chow was the only one who went back.
The rest of the show all thought Brady for next season.
And again, over ten thousand of you have voted in
this on the first hour. One bit of news that
you were hitting me with Danny g. There is talk
that the Rams are trying my my friend Lindsay theory
uh says that the Rams will try to shop Todd Gurley,

(01:42:56):
which is another one of these running back contract that
teams signed that they want to get try to get
out of. I just I can't imagine anybody being willing
to give up very much for Todd Gurley. Can you
Danny Gruning back who's on the tail end of his career,
who's making a ton of money. I mean, I think
this is the downside. This is what you're afraid of
if you are, for instance, the Tennessee Titans sitting around

(01:43:18):
with Jack Henry or the Dallas Cowboys who have committed
big money to to Ezekiel Elliott. It's that when a
running back's health goes unlike a quarterback who you can
get back healthy, it doesn't seem like you can ever
get a running back back healthy. And this is a
contract that's kind of hanging over the top of the Rams.
And oh, by the way, this is also the fear
when you go with a young quarterback who you have

(01:43:41):
under his rookie deal, you can make an early run,
but then when you pay him like they had to
pay Jared Goffin, like they had to pay Todd Gurley,
suddenly that value evaporates overnight. Definitely worth paying attention to.
And we feel like the Rams have not been straight
with us we just don't know about Curley's health. Yeah,
that's accurate as well. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. Go voting the poll at Clay Travis on Twitter.

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