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Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, conferences continue to pick away at the Pac-12. Realistic expectations for Jordan Love in Green Bay, reaction to the elimination of USWNT in the Women’s World Cup, and a Carson Wentz update on “ICYMI.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Monday edition, we will talk about what the hell
happened to the Pac twelve, all the ins and outs
and why it fell apart and melted down before our
very eyes and ears. We're also going to talk about
several quarterbacks getting criticism for their performances in training camp
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and why the hell we even care about it. We're
gonna have a discussion about one of the great calls
and the history of sports, and it wasn't even for
the right sport. Plus, we're gonna have another edition of
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how was it? How was your final weekend without football
for months and months and months?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Brady Quinn?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It was boring, honestly, I was.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I was.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I think at one point I found professional pillow fighting.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I saw that on TV.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Apparently.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I didn't realize that until this past weekend. Watch about
ten seconds of that. There was there was a boxing
on right, there's a boxing match. I was texting with
you about that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
It was just basically hanging out with the fam, you know,
trying to spend as much time as possible with the
fan before yeah, before we start out to travel and
really just basically be glued down to a couch watching
football every Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, I mean listen, if they're not really interested in
football or seeing a bunch of sports or anything going on,
just you know, hang out with the Back twelve. You
know that's usually where Wow, all right, can we just
jump right into this flease?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, can we pour some out for first?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
For yeah? That is that is true.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You know, whatever you got, poured out little something for
the PAC twelve formerly part of the Power five, which
we're now going to be calling the Power four because
that is an absolute disaster.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So who's left.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's Washington State, it's cal Stanford, and Oregon State.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
That's what we got.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's what we got. Yeah, that's what we're working with.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
What DF man.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I figured this was going to happen, but I didn't
know this was going to happen this quick.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, but take into account this.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Once Colorado moved and made that first jump, what then
became an issue or what was pressing it was two things.
The TV rights media deal, which we can go in
through the economics of it. I don't want to get
too specific on the numbers because this is only based
on a report, but I'll do my best to try
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to paint a picture as to why the Pac twelve
schools didn't like what they were offered and the TV
rights media deal. Okay, so that's the first thing. Everyone
was looking for stability financially, and they found it either
in the Big twelve or the Big Ten. That's the
first thing. The second thing was you do have to
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take into account recruiting. You just have to how can
you in any sport, forget football, any other any other sport,
how can you recruit? How can you talk to families?
How can you talk to kids when you don't know
where they're going to be traveling to, what conference are
going to be playing in? All the things that play
a part in all that. And so that I think
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also really sped this thing up where once Colorado moved,
it then kind of forced Arizona Arizona State Utah, which
which made sense regionally for where Colorado is and probably
what the Big twelve footprint was looking for. And if
you're looking at this, you know the size of the
schools and what was most attractive to Brett Yormark, they're
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the Big twelve commissioner. He's looking at those four and say,
these four makes sense, and so they go make an
offer that financially was gave them more stability than the
PAC twelve did.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And I think, even though, the interesting thing that I
was just.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Reading about this this morning, a lot of people feel like, well, man,
these schools, the travel, Oh my gosh, I don't know
what to do with all the traveling, flying all the
time of these athletes Arizona for example. All right, and
there's there's a few different examples that basically what they
were going to play this year, how much they were
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going to travel this year, they would have had to
have driven, okay, nine hundred and fourteen miles on average.
That's the Pac twelve, Okay, to go to any of
their games. Total flying time, I think, if I'm looking
at if I'm reading this right somewhere around you know,
thirteen hours fifty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So this is for Pack twelve schools.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Had the Pack twelve stayed intact, and their average flight
time of air travels like.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Two hours fifty two minutes.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Okay, you compare that to the Big twelve all right,
it doesn't really change a whole lot. It's I think
the average is eleven hundred miles if they're going to drive,
and the flights if you look at the Big twelve
now as a whole, so instead of two hours of
fifty two minutes on average, they go to three hours
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twenty seven minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I mean you're talking about the difference of nine hundred
and fourteen miles to eleven hundred and forty miles in driving. Yeah,
and then three hours you know, basically three and a
half hours in flights to almost three hours of flights
you had.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
The Pack twelve anyway, So there's a bit of a
misconception too.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think, just from a travel perspective, how much more
of a burden it will be for those schools that
have decided to move to the Pack TWLVE and the
Big twelve. Now the for Oregon and Washington going the
Big ten, USC and UCLA, Yeah, much more difficult, you know.
I mean you're talking about much further travel as compared
to what they had in the Pac twelve for the
Big twelve. That was also one of the selling points
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I think for Arizona, Arizona State Colorado, Utah. It's not
as big of a transition for them, at least from
a logistics standpoint. Outside of you know, you get some
longer trips like Morgantown, places like that, which again the
convents will be very smart about how they go about
handling that.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's just I mean, so what their go to now
is what travel. That's the problem. This is why it's unfair, man.
There's been opportunity after opportunity for somebody to come up
with a better plan in the PAC twelve, and they
waited around and waited around and kept kicking the can
down the road, and these teams had to jump. They
looked around whatever the streaming deal is to what what
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is it tiered to where if you hit a certain
amount of subscribers, then the the you know, how much
you get in return continues to go up.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And they want to go over it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I mean, listen, you go over it because it's so.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's not that complicated.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
But this is actually what makes it kind of easy
once you kind of break it down. So base payment
from Apple to be their streaming service was twenty three
million per team. That's at least what was reported by
Bartsiley okay. And then if if school's got one point
seven million subscribers, and this is how I read the report, okay,
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so obviously each school is my understanding, they could get
up to thirty one point seven million per year, okay,
which would make them competitive with the Big twelve. It
would make them competitive with even the pat twelve teams
that left to go to the Big ten and took
a pro rated amount because they weren't getting as much.
They will in the future, but not initially, so that
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in that world they would be competitive. And I think
at one point I said, oh, they can make up
the fifty million if they got five million subscribers. I
believe that's what the report said. So take into account
this the MLS, which, by the way, did you see
Messy last night?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I listened.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm just not impressed. I refuse to be impressed by
Goldie mess I mean, that's what I mean. Look lost,
he probably he probably cheated, and I'll find some way
in which he cheated and I'll get to the bottom
of that. I've got some people looking into that for me,
you know, I got.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Pull Well, we'll actually go we'll have some soccer talk today.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But the reason why we're bringing up now is Apple
has the you know, the season passed the exclusive rights
with with the MLS, and they just now got over
a million subscribers as of late in July, and a
lot of that had to do with MESSI coming right.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Fans are excited they sign up.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But the league, Okay, the league, which is twenty nine
teams just got and I think they played with thirty
four games something like that. They just got over a
million subscribers, and three hundred thousand of those subscribers actually
come from season ticket holders that got that subscription with
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their season tickets. So you're talking about an entire league
of what twenty nine teams I think lee that are
in the MLS just now got over one million, and
you're tasking schools in the PAC twelve of trying to
each get over a million. At least that's how I
read it. Or one point, it's seven, it's even closer
and closer to two. I think they looked at the
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model and there's two things they looked at and said, well,
for starters, no chance, like we can't. We can't reach
these numbers to be competitive. And the other thing is
if you look at the difference between linear TV, which,
let's be real, it offers you still the national platform.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, okay, if you're not.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I mean, look as even though things are moving towards streaming,
they're not there yet. Okay, Like the NFL network had
twenty or excuse me, seventy five million subscribers back in
twenty thirteen. They now had a report they have fifty
to fifty five something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, so clearly it's one or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's moving in that direction, but we're not there yet.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And so what what you can't get with streaming is
you don't get the national platform. You're not going to
be a part of the college football playoff, that sort
of conversation because no one's being able to see your teams.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And you know Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Which always is is a battle for West Coast teams,
that's out there too. So you've got this this this
offer from Apple that's basically saying to the schools, we're
gonna pay you, but if you want to get paid more,
you have to go out and earn it. You have
to get the subscribers for us. That's not how it
works at linear TV. Linear TV says we are going
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to pay you for your rights, and then we're gonna
go out and we're gonna be the ones that find
a way of recouping and making money off that by
by finding advertisers. Right, we're gonna we're gonna pump up
whatever our ratings are as best as we can to
sell to advertisers for commercials or or however else else
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in game. We we produce this and we create ways
of making money.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
They're like saying to the schools, Hey, we're just gonna
pay you up front and so you get this. You
don't have to worry about trying to go out and
and and get more subscribers or uh, you know, stressing
about how much you'll exactly make. And that's what the
Big twelve, that's what the Big ten provides, not only
stability financially, but guaranteeing them X amount for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Whereas Apple it's like, yeah, well, yeah, if you.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Guys want to work hard get a one point seven
million subscribers, this is what you can make. And I
don't think any school wants to sign up for that.
And I don't think any school wants to do that.
And feel like they're going to be a part of
the national conversation because they're not.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It's almost like these schools when it's like walking into
a car dealership and you tell the guy, all right, listen,
this is what i'm looking for. This is the rate,
this is the price, this is what I'm willing to
put down, and he says, okay, let me go talk
with my manager and see what I can do. And
he comes back and it's like, oh, that's not quite there,
what about this? Sorry, well, let me go talk to
him again. And then he went and talked to the
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manager and came out and brought something that just had
had was nowhere close to what you were looking for.
And all these teams just said, yeah, we're good, We're
going to go across the street. Thank you though, and
just left because they don't like they're waiting around, And
all the Pac twelve rolled out was a bag of crap.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well, it's I don't know if it's a fair comparison.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I think to make it a little more fair to
what's happened is it would be like bringing in like
a flying car where we're not there yet.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Maybe one day we will be.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But you're like hold on, I don't want this. What
does this does? How do you fill this up? How
does it work? It's kind of more like that, because
again it's not that streaming can't be effective.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It can be. I mean just again look at the.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Growth and numbers since you know, Enter Miami's Gottenlinel Messi,
but they're not there yet as a whole. And the
interesting thing about it too is if you look at
Apple and what they've done baseline offer in any sports leagues,
whether it's the MLS, which they're paying two point five
billion over a ten year deal, so two hundred fifty
million per year, or even what they had for the
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PAC twelve for ten teams twenty three million per team
per year two hundred and thirty million, they're all in
kind of the ballpark. Like Apple's basically saying in the
streaming market, like, hey, this is what's you're worth, Like,
this is your value, whether it's from gambling, from advertising,
or however, you know, we can go about making money.
This is what we believe the value of this sport
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is worth roughly about a quarter of a billion dollars
a year. That's what Apple is trying to basically set
or say, what you know, setting the market kind of interesting,
but we're just not there yet. Pat Twell Schools saw it,
and unfortunately, because of the lack of leadership from Larry
Scott to the university presence now to George or Cleavecoff,
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you know, they just they had never really figured out
a way of going to linear TV and beating out
Brett or Mark who got his deal done before then,
and then finding a competitive offer.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Limousine Larry, he did it. Limousine Larry did it again.
And and the PAC twelve is forever change. It is
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the NFL is being judged and they're not being judged fairly.
And it's a starting quarterback in the NFL we'll tell
you who that is next.
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Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah I Go, Brady, Uh huh oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Swivel, swivel.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
a little over twenty minutes from now, we are going
to talk about one quarterback in the NFL representing three
different teams. A lot going on there, a lot of
multitasking it again, we'll get into that for you here
in a little over twenty minute from now. So, Jordan
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Love has started one game in his NFL career.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
One game.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That one game was during the COVID season against the
Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium, which, from my understanding
that was also a team that went on to go
to a Super Bowl that year, and Arrowhead Stadium is
from my understanding, a very difficult place to play. But
that's the one start he's had in his NFL career.
And he's played, he's had spot duty and other portions
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of his career. But apparently now we're going to go
ahead and start judging Jordan Love as if he's got
a wealth of experience in the NFL. There's reports out
talking about his performance at Family Night for the Green
Bay Packers that there was a quote unquote mixed bag.
Some other people have been critical saying it's not going
to work out for him. Can the guy get a
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little bit of a grace period? Is that not allowed?
Is Jordan Love not allowed to have a little bit
of some leeway here? Understanding he's taken over a team
that wasn't even a playoff team from a year ago.
He's taken over for a living legend. I just did
this idea that people expect He's just going to walk
right in and the Packers knew what they were doing
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and they know he's going to have success right from
the jump.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Let's just go ahead and slow down a.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Little bit here.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And they're going to gloating right now, Well, they're just
they're going to open up the season against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
As a Bears fan, are you gloating right now?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I'm a Bear talking to you. Yes, And I don't
know what you're not happy about it. Yeah, I don't
know what you're referring to.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It feels like you're really you know, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It bothers me that the expectation is if you're drafted,
you must perform right away as soon as you get
your opportunity. There's a lot going on there. He took
over for a legend.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
There is, and I think, look, a lot of people
probably said that about Aaron Rodgers. You know, hey, lot
going on there. He took over for a legend and
their first season didn't go well. Right, there are six
and ten football team. You know, he threw I think,
I don't know, thirteen interceptions something like that, which now
when you look back at it, I think the only
other time over is like what fourteen years during that
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span he threw double digit interceptions was last season, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And then I think twenty ten.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
But even then, like the numbers were pretty good, but
they weren't quite as good as what he'd consistently been.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
So it's gonna take some time.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
And I think here's the hard part for a lot
of people that you haven't been through this, Because I
remember talking to Mike Holmgren about this. During my third
year in Cleveland, I had twelve starts in three years,
and there was some good. There was probably more bad,
but there was enough where like it was something for
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him to contemplate. And his difficulty with the evaluation was twofold.
It was the coach that was there that he was
going to keep didn't like me, and so that was
the first thing against me. And the second thing was is,
you know, I could play into my fourth year, we
could see where things went, but maybe it was just
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better of have a clean slate for all art is involved.
And so they traded me away, and you know, it
was tough to deal with only because at that point
I was like, man, I'm just waiting for more of
a shot and more of an opportunity. And in the
case of Jordan Love, he's obviously when he got drafted
he had the expectation of playing, but he's playing behind
a Hall of famer, a guy who went back to
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back MVP, So I think he had a pretty good
understanding that he'd get his shot. It just wasn't a
matter of time and it wasn't gonna be anytime soon.
But the expectation on the outside is well, he's been there,
he's been he's been taking reps, he's been practicing, he's
ready to go. He's gonna go in. He just gotta
show out right away. Now, It's not that's not really
how it works. Like quarterback play is a developmental sport
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and you got to play and take those real reps
in order to get it. And it's probably next offensive
lineman the way. You know, things have changed over the
course of the offseason where there's not as many padded
practice so those guys aren't out there doing the things
they're going to be doing when it comes to game day,
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especially when they're not padded up full pads as much
for quarterbacks, you'll get hit. You really don't have a
realistic expectation of, you know, the moves you would have
to make within the pocket, the things you'd have to
do sometimes outside the pocket, and the type of throw
that you'd be able to make or not make when
you're in practice because you got a red jersey on
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or you have a you know, whatever color jersey on
where no one's supposed touch you. So as much as
all those things play a factor, they're they're not the
real development they're not the real reps and experience I'm
talking about, and I think most quarterbacks would agree. I
mean again, you can have a good feel for the
offense everything once you want to do pre snap, but
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once that ball snap, man, it's a whole different animal
and you're playing a real live game. And that's unfortunately
what he doesn't have a ton experience of right now.
So I feel for him.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Green Bay Packers fans have extremely high expectations. Bears fans
think they Bay basically won the division at this point, right.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I don't know who you guys are. I don't know
what you're referring to.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I feel like the Detroit Lions are getting all the
love in that division, and then you got Minnesota who's
just kind of.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
One thirteen games last year. No one seems to respect
for Summer. I don't really get that either, right Like,
if you look how bad they were last year defensively
against the against the pass, which more teams do, you know,
more than more often than not, If they improve a
little bit, if they just get to be like the
sixteenth seventeenth best pass defense, they're probably still they're probably
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a really good football team. They signed back to Neil Hunter.
You know they've got him, made him happy for another year.
Who's gonna be rushing off the edge. I mean, I
know we're watching Dalvin Cook move on, but I just
I look at that group and I'm like, they could
potentially win ten, eleven, twelve games. Again, it's not that
hard to think, like, maybe that's a much better football
team than we're giving him credit.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I'm just surprised they didn't roll with Dalvin Cook. Just
look at it and go, hey, ideally, yeah this year, yeah,
like why not, like give it one more run. It
feels like they're on the verge of moving on from
Kirk Cousins, Like why not. Rogers just left the division
and you already won it last year. To your point,
how many other teams outside of maybe Philly and Dallas
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and the Niners would you look at and say, okay, well,
those are definitively better teams than the Minnesota Vikings. I
just it felt like there was an opportunity there to
make a run. And if there's an injury or one
of those teams slips up, then all of a sudden
you got Kirk Cousins, who is one of the better
quarterbacks in the NFC and Minnesota's got an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
That was just surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I thought they would look at this year and say,
all right, let's let's give it one final run and
then if it doesn't work out, everybody moves on. But
I mean, maybe they're working on a deal justin Jefferson.
That was part of the motivation for wanting to move
on from Dalvin Cook. But yeah, I don't know, to
your Jordan love point, were you a good when you
passed your driver's test? Were you a good driver when
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you got your license? Because I was awful?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
No, I was.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I mean I did have an accident like early on
driving and it was one of the few I'd have
basically ever, right, which Chopper wasn't too happy about that.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yeah, well so so it's this is actually kind of neat.
It's one of the coolest things about my hometown in Dublin, Ohio.
So if you go over to Dublin, Ireland, like if
you ever get a chance to go over there, one
of the things that you see dividing up the property
lines are these like little they're probably about I don't
know three about three maybe four feet high, These kind
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of stone wall borders and they divide up the property line.
So it's not like you know, your you're you know,
picket fences or you know, you know, wired fencing or
anything like that. It's these pretty stone walls that kind
of divide up the property. And obviously in Dublin, Ohio,
uh kind of paying homage to it, but you have
a fair amount of Irish settlers. They they did something
(23:57):
very similar in our hometown. So all throughout, like the
older portion or historic portion of our town, you get
you know, these stone walls. And so it was we're
coming back from a friend's house, me and a buddy,
and I was at a stop sign and I looked
left kind of quick, and there was the stone wall,
and there was kind of some cars parked like in
the on the street, and so I kind of glanced,
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you know, quick left, looked back right, was okay there,
started to turn, stopped, saw a car coming. That car
never adjusted this path. I didn't have time to throw
in reverse and get out of the way. So actually
that car hit me. But anyway, that was one of
the first times, you know, getting in an accident. My
dad came over, was extremely pissed. My buddy basically threw
(24:40):
me under the bus to the uh the when we
you know, called.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
For the police report all that, which it was like.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I was listening to him, by the way, give the description,
you know, and when you're sixteen and yes, the passenger
the other vehicle was driving northbound on it. He was like,
you know, the way he was describing. I'm like, God, dude,
they're not gonna arrest you. But my whole point is
I was pretty good because my dad probably had me
start practicing driving when I was like fourteen.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I mean literally he would when I was fourteen, when.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
We'd be like these open spaces, he would let me
go practice driving his truck. And I was always helped
me be so much more prepared for the actual time
when I had to do it, because I was taking
a live rep, you know what I'm saying. Before I
was really ready, I was taking that live rep. And
that's honestly, I mean. Not to get off on a
tangent and go back to NFL Europe. That's what I
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missed about NFL Europe. If the NFL Europe existed during
the time with Jordan Love, he would have been over
there playing games. They would have sent him and while
Rogers was there, they would have sent him over to Europe.
He could have played for Birmingham or whoever else you
know they had a team for and he would have
gotten some of those live reps. When he came back,
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they would have a much better idea of what he was.
But he'd be much further along too, as a quarterback
taking those live reps overseas.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I just that's why I look at this and I go,
come on, man, let the guy go through some some
of this stuff, the growing pains all that, and if
they have a bad season, and you mentioned it earlier
Rogers took over, they were six and ten. It's like,
you know, this stuff's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
It does.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's not an indictment on him, but what his future
is going to be. Just get growing pains, man. I
gotten an accident to pretty early on after I got
my license. Yeah, T Bone did an intersection after our
first concert as a van. Yeah, and listen, I could
have sworn that lights green upon further review.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Might have run a red. You know, I just not out.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think about it and just sort of how everything
broke down, I might have might have run a red there.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You should have made a song about it. It could
have been like one of your your hit songs.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, well when you need one hit song to have
multiple to be able to use.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
That good point. So that could have been your hit song.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, it could have been it.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And that could have been read you know, whatever you
want to call.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
It could have been read read. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
A lot of a lot of going on there now.
When you mentioned when you by the way, T bone
Steak not a fan, I don't know why something about
it just not Yeah, just not a fan at all.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You know, No bad likes a good tea bone is Lee?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I don't know. I would assume Lee likes a good
tea bone.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Because Todd and t I see change. I love a
T bone Steak. Yeah, there you go, that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I did a good feel for Lee. I feel like
I've got a good feel for what him. You know,
he likes what Todd Baby likes to.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, it's funny you were mentioning just sort of the
partitions the the beautiful stone work there that pays homage
to Dublin, Ireland.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Really Irish though, really the Irish people, and it's almost
like a spring of just Irish folks that popped up
there at Doublin on Hunt.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
What a great point that was. Oh my god.
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Speaker 3 (28:09):
Edmund Garcia all.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Right, thanks Jonas, we will get you updated on some
action from Major League Baseball. On Sunday. We had the
Brewers losing the Pirates four to one, the Cubs getting
to play well, beating the Braves six to four, and
the Reds lost their six in a row fall into
the Nationals six to three. So Chicago has caught Cincinnati
for second place in the NL Central and both the
game and half back in Milwaukee, and the Reds and
Cubs are tied for the final wildcard spot in the
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National League. Rangers shout out to Marlin six to nothing
for a three game sweep. Miami's a half game out
of that last wildcard spot in the NL. Texas still
has a two and a half game lead on Houston
and the al Wes. The Astros did keep pace with
a nine to seven win over the Yankees. Blue Jay's
beat up on the Red Sox thirteen to one. Toronto
with the three game sweep. Mariners get a four game
series sweep with the Angels with a three to two
win in ten inning seattles, two and a half back
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of Toronto for the last wildcard spot in the America.
The Angels, meanwhile, they're winless since the trade deadline, zero
to six. Ori'll shout out the Mets two nothing Baltimore
with a three games sweep. Rays beat the Tigers ten
to six. So Baltimore is still three up on Texas
for the tops spown in the AL East. I should
say three up on Tampa Bay. The Dodgers beat the
Padres eight to two. Was the Giants losing to the
A's eight to six, so LA now with a four
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game lead on San Francisco in the NL West, and
the Twins beat the Diamondbacks five to three. That's six
losses in a row for Arizona. Walk off win from
Minnesota Guardians loose to the White Sox five three, So
Minnesota now with a four and a half game lead
on Cleveland in the Ale Central. And unlike most the
other teams in baseball, if you finished second place in
the AL Central, you're not going to get in the
playoffs because that division is so bad. So it looks
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like Minnesota moving into a pretty good spot right now.
Women's World Cup US is out very early on Sunday.
They lost five to four on penalty kicks to Sweden.
To Sweden after its scoreless one hundred and twenty minutes,
we're showing for the US in a major competition. They
were the two time defending World Cup champs. NFL Carolina
Panthers signed former Pro Bowl linebacker Justin Houston to a
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(29:58):
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Speaker 1 (30:04):
Thanks Eddie, two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. So Eddie mentioned the uh the
US women's national team.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah did you watch? Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, I saw some of it. Yeah, it's interesting because
Carly Lloyd made some you know, some comments about their
behavior following their previous game and.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
The draw vers Portugal.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, and she got buried for it.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I mean people went after but just you know, people
on the the US women's national team, people.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
In the media, the former teammates.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, well, people that just were not happy about what
she had to say and just felt like she was
going a little bit too hard in the paint. And
then but it's okay, everything was fine because Megan Rappino
must have been aiming at somebody else's net. Maybe somebody
was holding up a net in the in the crowd
and that's.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
What she was Well, I mean, you wouldn't be surprised
too if she was expecting someone to the net for
her to be able to.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Make that goal.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It's just, you know, it is it is funny how
here we are and the vibe from this team just
felt different from other teams.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
In the Let me let me just say this. They
weren't a team.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And this isn't like me trying to be critical, Like
I've watched a ton of their games, watch that ton
of them play, and the stats would back that up.
You know that they they didn't pass as often to
one another. That was one of the stats that kind
of came out from the group play. I did think this,
this most recent you know, match was the best they'd
played the entire tournament, if you will. They just couldn't finish.
(31:36):
They had no attack and obviously Megan Rapeaa was a
part of that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The PK situation was I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I mean, again, I've never played soccer at that high
of a level. I would think common sense would tell you.
And clearly the goal or objective is it to blow
it past the goal, right. It's not to miss, I
understand that, but you also have to least put it
on net, right, like if you're going to take an
opportunity or shot, like, at least give it a chance.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean hers didn't even have a shot or a chance.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And I felt like o'haro was in a tough spot
because she got subbed in Laid and was obviously part
of it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
But now too, they're goalie mayers. Is it. She's amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Not only does she have an amazing game, but to
go into and hit a PK herself and just add
to it, I mean, she gave them every opportunity to
be able to win that game.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
By the way, penalty kicks are just such a pain
in the ass. What a brutal way to lose. You
run around for hours and then it just turns into
all right, who can score and which goalie can guess?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I kind of like it though, like it adds to
a lot of suspense.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
So I had all three of my girls up early
watching it, and and reason being was this My oldest
daughter had literally played soccer the day prior and they
were doing a drill. She you know, was you know,
taking shots on the goal. Wasn't making it right. She
just turned seven this past weekend and she started she upset,
(33:01):
and so I started talking. I'm like, why are you getting upset?
And she's the type that's she tries to be a
perfections She wants to always you know, she felt embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
She wants to always do everything right.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
And she asked me after Megan Raupeedo missed her shot,
why she's smiling?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
What she said good for her?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I go sloan. I was like, you know, it's
it's a it's a good point and it's a good question.
I said. Now, the first thing I'll say to you
is she's not crying just because she missed a shot.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
But I but, I go, I have no idea why
she's smiling right now. I go, Daddy can't tell you,
because if it was me, I would be so mad
at myself. I would have a hard time keeping my
composure and and you know, so we talked a while
and had one of those moments. But you know, besides
the fact that they thought the sweeten jerseys they were
(33:51):
more attractive to the yellow colors. So at times, my
my three year old was rooting for Sweden and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
wrong team, wrong team.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
We're we're rooting for the US. Is just explaining to
them because they're like, you know, why are they crying?
Why are they so upset?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And I was trying to explain the situation to them,
but it got me to the point of it felt
like this team, which had, you know, time and time
again so much success, got maybe to the point where
some of the players weren't as focused on continually staying
on top like other things became more of the priority,
(34:27):
and ultimately that led to their worst performance in US
women's national team history. And really, you know, to what
scoreless games over the past two which has been as
bad as it was the limited amount of goals they've
scored in general. I mean, if you watched the first
game versus Vietnam, and I don't care if you're like, well,
Vietnam wasn't much of anything and they had players out.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It doesn't matter. They didn't even come close to dominating
that game as they should have.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, and like the penalty gig miss, so, Roberto Baggio
is one of the all time great Italian soccer players,
I mean, like top top of the list, like one
of the all time greats. If you just google search
Roberto Baggio, one of the first things that pops up,
if not the first, is miss penalty kick in the
World Cup. It changes the way that that guy's entire career, like,
(35:12):
he's viewed differently because of that one miss in a
penalty kick in the World Cup in ninety four against Brazil.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Never looked at the same And Meghan.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Rapeedo's just kind of smiling, Eh, whatever, we'll get him
there and then.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And that's really and by the way, it wasn't like
that one kick was what you know, ultimately led to
him that your miss. Right, there's more misses that that
hurt us, whether Smith and O'Hara. But my whole point
is to your point, that is how she will be remembered.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I feel like, well, I think there's also a lot
of people that just don't like some of the other
stuff going on with them, you know, just.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Answer she gave to like what her favorite memory was,
you know, from her time playing she retired and she's
obviously had an incredible career, and I think her response
was equal pay.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That that's going to rub a lot of people the
wrong way.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
And as a competitor, you know, you're thinking about, wait,
there wasn't a time with your teammates, you're not you
can't remember, like, you know, winning the World Cup and
having this sort of success.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And priority is that it's equal pay priorities.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
You know, well, maybe maybe that speaks to you know,
maybe that speaks to why they didn't have as much
success this year.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
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Speaker 5 (38:44):
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Speaker 3 (38:47):
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Speaker 5 (38:48):
In case you missed it from over the weekend, uh
A photo has gone viral on Instagram, that being Carson
Wentz worthly, Hey Brady, that photo being of Carson Wentz
working out anohing quite newsworthy with that. But what is
noteworthy about this photo is that Carson Wentz is working
out with an Eagles helmet, a commander's practice jersey, and
Colt shorts.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Huh Well, interesting photo there doing the impossible. You know,
he's representing three teams at the same time. Did you
have how much of your practice gear? Do you still
have a various teams?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
That's a good question. I have some.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I don't have, you know, all of it in part
because I mean, we originally began my career in the
NFL with Rebok, so you know, some of that stuff
was good, some of it was trash.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Once we were with the Nike it was a little better.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
But like the good stuff from Reebok was always I thought,
better quality than the you know, some of the stuff
from Nike, like the quality of it just fell apart.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It wasn't as good. So I would say I'd say
I got a fair amount.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, Which were you a fan when you played in Seattle?
Were you a fan of those the Seahawks like their
unis and their gear and all that stuff. It feels
like there's way too much going on with them. That's
why I like these throwbacks, bringing back the throwbacks.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Less of the the throwbacks are my preferred, but I
still thought their uniforms were pretty dope. I've gotten no
complaints about Seattle, Like everything about that place was awesome.
Like literally that that, I think, to me was the
best organization that I was a part of during my
time going to different teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Granted it took me seven years to be.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Able to get there, and you know they obviously wasn't
even with them for that season, just the off season,
but that that five months there in the off season
with them, that was one of the more enjoyable experiences.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Their uniforms was part of that.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, it's kind of wild that this is where we're
at with Carson Wentz.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
It's more surprising that there's not a team with and
I think if you look at some of the teams
who might need a backup or want to have a
veteran guy in there, well Washington would be one.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
But you can't have Washington, right, he's just there. Yeah,
they've moved on.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
That didn't work out too well. You know, Atlanta would
be another one that maybe would make some sense. But
you know, I don't know how much of it is
on him either. And maybe he doesn't want to take
a lesser contract just to be a backup. Maybe he
wants to wait for a potential injury to happen where
a starter goes down and they need a guy with
experience and so he's got leverage at that point.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
There's all sorts of different scenarios.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
But I would have thought that he would have maybe said,
let's just go ahead and find a safe spot to be.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, it's a little, uh, a little wild to see
what's happening with Carson Wentz, but we're going to get
a little wild now or too, And it's yours next.
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how was it? How was your final weekend without football
for months and months and months?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Brady Quinn?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
It was boring, honestly, I was.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I was.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I think at one point I found professional pillow fighting.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I saw that on TV.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Apparently.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I didn't realize that until this past weekend. Watch about
ten seconds of that. There was there was a boxing
on right, there's a boxing match. I was texting with
you about that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
It was just basically hanging out with the fam, you know,
trying to spend as much time as possible with the
fan before yeah, before we start out to travel and
really just basically be glued down to a couch watching
football every Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, I mean listen, if they're not really interested in
football or seeing a bunch of sports or anything going on,
just you know, hang out with the Back twelve. You
know that's usually where Wow, all right, can we just
jump right into this flease?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, can we pour some out for first?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
For yeah? That is that is true.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You know, whatever you got, poured out little something for
the PAC twelve formerly part of the Power five, which
we're now going to be calling the Power four because
that is an absolute disaster.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So who's left.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's Washington State, it's cal Stanford, and Oregon State.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
That's what we got.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
That's what we got. Yeah, that's what we're working with.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
What DF man.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I figured this was going to happen, but I didn't
know this was going to happen this quick.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, but take into account this.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Once Colorado moved and made that first jump, what then
became an issue or what was pressing it was two things.
The TV rights media deal, which we can go in
through the economics of it. I don't want to get
too specific on the numbers because this is only based
on a report, but I'll do my best to try
(03:33):
to paint a picture as to why the Pac twelve
schools didn't like what they were offered and the TV
rights media deal. Okay, so that's the first thing. Everyone
was looking for stability financially, and they found it either
in the Big twelve or the Big Ten. That's the
first thing. The second thing was you do have to
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take into account recruiting. You just have to how can
you in any sport, forget football, any other any other sport,
how can you recruit? How can you talk to families?
How can you talk to kids when you don't know
where they're going to be traveling to, what conference are
going to be playing in? All the things that play
a part in all that. And so that I think
(04:17):
also really sped this thing up where once Colorado moved,
it then kind of forced Arizona Arizona State Utah, which
which made sense regionally for where Colorado is and probably
what the Big twelve footprint was looking for. And if
you're looking at this, you know the size of the
schools and what was most attractive to Brett Yormark, they're
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the Big twelve commissioner. He's looking at those four and say,
these four makes sense, and so they go make an
offer that financially was gave them more stability than the
PAC twelve did.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And I think, even though, the interesting thing that I
was just.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Reading about this this morning, a lot of people feel like, well, man,
these schools, the travel, Oh my gosh, I don't know
what to do with all the traveling, flying all the
time of these athletes Arizona for example. All right, and
there's there's a few different examples that basically what they
were going to play this year, how much they were
(05:13):
going to travel this year, they would have had to
have driven, okay, nine hundred and fourteen miles on average.
That's the Pac twelve, Okay, to go to any of
their games. Total flying time, I think, if I'm looking
at if I'm reading this right somewhere around you know,
thirteen hours fifty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So this is for Pack twelve schools.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Had the Pack twelve stayed intact, and their average flight
time of air travels like.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Two hours fifty two minutes.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Okay, you compare that to the Big twelve all right,
it doesn't really change a whole lot. It's I think
the average is eleven hundred miles if they're going to drive,
and the flights if you look at the Big twelve
now as a whole, so instead of two hours of
fifty two minutes on average, they go to three hours
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twenty seven minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I mean you're talking about the difference of nine hundred
and fourteen miles to eleven hundred and forty miles in driving. Yeah,
and then three hours you know, basically three and a
half hours in flights to almost three hours of flights
you had.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
The Pack twelve anyway, So there's a bit of a
misconception too.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think, just from a travel perspective, how much more
of a burden it will be for those schools that
have decided to move to the Pack TWLVE and the
Big twelve. Now the for Oregon and Washington going the
Big ten, USC and UCLA, Yeah, much more difficult, you know.
I mean you're talking about much further travel as compared
to what they had in the Pac twelve for the
Big twelve. That was also one of the selling points
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I think for Arizona, Arizona State Colorado, Utah. It's not
as big of a transition for them, at least from
a logistics standpoint. Outside of you know, you get some
longer trips like Morgantown, places like that, which again the
convents will be very smart about how they go about
handling that.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's just I mean, so what their go to now
is what travel. That's the problem. This is why it's unfair, man.
There's been opportunity after opportunity for somebody to come up
with a better plan in the PAC twelve, and they
waited around and waited around and kept kicking the can
down the road, and these teams had to jump. They
looked around whatever the streaming deal is to what what
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is it tiered to where if you hit a certain
amount of subscribers, then the the you know, how much
you get in return continues to go up.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And they want to go over it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I mean, listen, you go over it because it's so.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's not that complicated.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
But this is actually what makes it kind of easy
once you kind of break it down. So base payment
from Apple to be their streaming service was twenty three
million per team. That's at least what was reported by
Bartsiley okay. And then if if school's got one point
seven million subscribers, and this is how I read the report, okay,
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so obviously each school is my understanding, they could get
up to thirty one point seven million per year, okay,
which would make them competitive with the Big twelve. It
would make them competitive with even the pat twelve teams
that left to go to the Big ten and took
a pro rated amount because they weren't getting as much.
They will in the future, but not initially, so that
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in that world they would be competitive. And I think
at one point I said, oh, they can make up
the fifty million if they got five million subscribers. I
believe that's what the report said. So take into account
this the MLS, which, by the way, did you see
Messy last night?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I listened.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm just not impressed. I refuse to be impressed by
Goldie mess I mean, that's what I mean. Look lost,
he probably he probably cheated, and I'll find some way
in which he cheated and I'll get to the bottom
of that. I've got some people looking into that for me,
you know, I got.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Pull Well, we'll actually go we'll have some soccer talk today.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
But the reason why we're bringing up now is Apple
has the you know, the season passed the exclusive rights
with with the MLS, and they just now got over
a million subscribers as of late in July, and a
lot of that had to do with MESSI coming right.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Fans are excited they sign up.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But the league, Okay, the league, which is twenty nine
teams just got and I think they played with thirty
four games something like that. They just got over a
million subscribers, and three hundred thousand of those subscribers actually
come from season ticket holders that got that subscription with
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their season tickets. So you're talking about an entire league
of what twenty nine teams I think lee that are
in the MLS just now got over one million, and
you're tasking schools in the PAC twelve of trying to
each get over a million. At least that's how I
read it. Or one point, it's seven, it's even closer
and closer to two. I think they looked at the
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model and there's two things they looked at and said, well,
for starters, no chance, like we can't. We can't reach
these numbers to be competitive. And the other thing is
if you look at the difference between linear TV, which,
let's be real, it offers you still the national platform.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, okay, if you're not.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I mean, look as even though things are moving towards streaming,
they're not there yet. Okay, Like the NFL network had
twenty or excuse me, seventy five million subscribers back in
twenty thirteen. They now had a report they have fifty
to fifty five something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, so clearly it's one or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's moving in that direction, but we're not there yet.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And so what what you can't get with streaming is
you don't get the national platform. You're not going to
be a part of the college football playoff, that sort
of conversation because no one's being able to see your teams.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And you know Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Which always is is a battle for West Coast teams,
that's out there too. So you've got this this this
offer from Apple that's basically saying to the schools, we're
gonna pay you, but if you want to get paid more,
you have to go out and earn it. You have
to get the subscribers for us. That's not how it
works at linear TV. Linear TV says we are going
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to pay you for your rights, and then we're gonna
go out and we're gonna be the ones that find
a way of recouping and making money off that by
by finding advertisers. Right, we're gonna we're gonna pump up
whatever our ratings are as best as we can to
sell to advertisers for commercials or or however else else
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in game. We we produce this and we create ways
of making money.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
They're like saying to the schools, Hey, we're just gonna
pay you up front and so you get this. You
don't have to worry about trying to go out and
and and get more subscribers or uh, you know, stressing
about how much you'll exactly make. And that's what the
Big twelve, that's what the Big ten provides, not only
stability financially, but guaranteeing them X amount for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Whereas Apple it's like, yeah, well, yeah, if you.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Guys want to work hard get a one point seven
million subscribers, this is what you can make. And I
don't think any school wants to sign up for that.
And I don't think any school wants to do that.
And feel like they're going to be a part of
the national conversation because they're not.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
It's almost like these schools when it's like walking into
a car dealership and you tell the guy, all right, listen,
this is what i'm looking for. This is the rate,
this is the price, this is what I'm willing to
put down, and he says, okay, let me go talk
with my manager and see what I can do. And
he comes back and it's like, oh, that's not quite there,
what about this? Sorry, well, let me go talk to
him again. And then he went and talked to the
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manager and came out and brought something that just had
had was nowhere close to what you were looking for.
And all these teams just said, yeah, we're good, We're
going to go across the street. Thank you though, and
just left because they don't like they're waiting around, And
all the Pac twelve rolled out was a bag of crap.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well, it's I don't know if it's a fair comparison.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I think to make it a little more fair to
what's happened is it would be like bringing in like
a flying car where we're not there yet.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Maybe one day we will be.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But you're like hold on, I don't want this. What
does this does? How do you fill this up? How
does it work? It's kind of more like that, because
again it's not that streaming can't be effective.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It can be. I mean just again look at the.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Growth and numbers since you know, Enter Miami's Gottenlinel Messi,
but they're not there yet as a whole. And the
interesting thing about it too is if you look at
Apple and what they've done baseline offer in any sports leagues,
whether it's the MLS, which they're paying two point five
billion over a ten year deal, so two hundred fifty
million per year, or even what they had for the
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PAC twelve for ten teams twenty three million per team
per year two hundred and thirty million, they're all in
kind of the ballpark. Like Apple's basically saying in the
streaming market, like, hey, this is what's you're worth, Like,
this is your value, whether it's from gambling, from advertising,
or however, you know, we can go about making money.
This is what we believe the value of this sport
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is worth roughly about a quarter of a billion dollars
a year. That's what Apple is trying to basically set
or say, what you know, setting the market kind of interesting,
but we're just not there yet. Pat Twell Schools saw it,
and unfortunately, because of the lack of leadership from Larry
Scott to the university presence now to George or Cleavecoff,
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you know, they just they had never really figured out
a way of going to linear TV and beating out
Brett or Mark who got his deal done before then,
and then finding a competitive offer.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Limousine Larry, he did it. Limousine Larry did it again.
And and the PAC twelve is forever change. It is
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And it's a starting quarterback in the NFL we'll tell
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Speaker 2 (15:33):
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Speaker 1 (15:37):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
a little over twenty minutes from now, we are going
to talk about one quarterback in the NFL representing three
different teams. A lot going on there, a lot of
multitasking it again, we'll get into that for you here
in a little over twenty minute from now. So, Jordan
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Love has started one game in his NFL career.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
One game.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That one game was during the COVID season against the
Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium, which, from my understanding
that was also a team that went on to go
to a Super Bowl that year, and Arrowhead Stadium is
from my understanding, a very difficult place to play. But
that's the one start he's had in his NFL career.
And he's played, he's had spot duty and other portions
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of his career. But apparently now we're going to go
ahead and start judging Jordan Love as if he's got
a wealth of experience in the NFL. There's reports out
talking about his performance at Family Night for the Green
Bay Packers that there was a quote unquote mixed bag.
Some other people have been critical saying it's not going
to work out for him. Can the guy get a
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little bit of a grace period? Is that not allowed?
Is Jordan Love not allowed to have a little bit
of some leeway here? Understanding he's taken over a team
that wasn't even a playoff team from a year ago.
He's taken over for a living legend. I just did
this idea that people expect He's just going to walk
right in and the Packers knew what they were doing
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and they know he's going to have success right from
the jump.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Let's just go ahead and slow down a.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Little bit here.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And they're going to gloating right now, Well, they're just
they're going to open up the season against the Bears.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
As a Bears fan, are you gloating right now?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I'm a Bear talking to you. Yes, And I don't
know what you're not happy about it. Yeah, I don't
know what you're referring to.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It feels like you're really you know, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It bothers me that the expectation is if you're drafted,
you must perform right away as soon as you get
your opportunity. There's a lot going on there. He took
over for a legend.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
There is, and I think, look, a lot of people
probably said that about Aaron Rodgers. You know, hey, lot
going on there. He took over for a legend and
their first season didn't go well. Right, there are six
and ten football team. You know, he threw I think,
I don't know, thirteen interceptions something like that, which now
when you look back at it, I think the only
other time over is like what fourteen years during that
(18:00):
span he threw double digit interceptions was last season, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And then I think twenty ten.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
But even then, like the numbers were pretty good, but
they weren't quite as good as what he'd consistently been.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
So it's gonna take some time.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
And I think here's the hard part for a lot
of people that you haven't been through this, Because I
remember talking to Mike Holmgren about this. During my third
year in Cleveland, I had twelve starts in three years,
and there was some good. There was probably more bad,
but there was enough where like it was something for
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him to contemplate. And his difficulty with the evaluation was twofold.
It was the coach that was there that he was
going to keep didn't like me, and so that was
the first thing against me. And the second thing was is,
you know, I could play into my fourth year, we
could see where things went, but maybe it was just
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better of have a clean slate for all art is involved.
And so they traded me away, and you know, it
was tough to deal with only because at that point
I was like, man, I'm just waiting for more of
a shot and more of an opportunity. And in the
case of Jordan Love, he's obviously when he got drafted
he had the expectation of playing, but he's playing behind
a Hall of famer, a guy who went back to
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back MVP, So I think he had a pretty good
understanding that he'd get his shot. It just wasn't a
matter of time and it wasn't gonna be anytime soon.
But the expectation on the outside is well, he's been there,
he's been he's been taking reps, he's been practicing, he's
ready to go. He's gonna go in. He just gotta
show out right away. Now, It's not that's not really
how it works. Like quarterback play is a developmental sport
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and you got to play and take those real reps
in order to get it. And it's probably next offensive
lineman the way. You know, things have changed over the
course of the offseason where there's not as many padded
practice so those guys aren't out there doing the things
they're going to be doing when it comes to game day,
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especially when they're not padded up full pads as much
for quarterbacks, you'll get hit. You really don't have a
realistic expectation of, you know, the moves you would have
to make within the pocket, the things you'd have to
do sometimes outside the pocket, and the type of throw
that you'd be able to make or not make when
you're in practice because you got a red jersey on
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or you have a you know, whatever color jersey on
where no one's supposed touch you. So as much as
all those things play a factor, they're they're not the
real development they're not the real reps and experience I'm
talking about, and I think most quarterbacks would agree. I
mean again, you can have a good feel for the
offense everything once you want to do pre snap, but
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once that ball snap, man, it's a whole different animal
and you're playing a real live game. And that's unfortunately
what he doesn't have a ton experience of right now.
So I feel for him.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Green Bay Packers fans have extremely high expectations. Bears fans
think they Bay basically won the division at this point, right.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I don't know who you guys are. I don't know
what you're referring to.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I feel like the Detroit Lions are getting all the
love in that division, and then you got Minnesota who's
just kind of.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
One thirteen games last year. No one seems to respect
for Summer. I don't really get that either, right Like,
if you look how bad they were last year defensively
against the against the pass, which more teams do, you know,
more than more often than not, If they improve a
little bit, if they just get to be like the
sixteenth seventeenth best pass defense, they're probably still they're probably
(21:33):
a really good football team. They signed back to Neil Hunter.
You know they've got him, made him happy for another year.
Who's gonna be rushing off the edge. I mean, I
know we're watching Dalvin Cook move on, but I just
I look at that group and I'm like, they could
potentially win ten, eleven, twelve games. Again, it's not that
hard to think, like, maybe that's a much better football
team than we're giving him credit.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I'm just surprised they didn't roll with Dalvin Cook. Just
look at it and go, hey, ideally, yeah this year, yeah,
like why not, like give it one more run. It
feels like they're on the verge of moving on from
Kirk Cousins, Like why not. Rogers just left the division
and you already won it last year. To your point,
how many other teams outside of maybe Philly and Dallas
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and the Niners would you look at and say, okay, well,
those are definitively better teams than the Minnesota Vikings. I
just it felt like there was an opportunity there to
make a run. And if there's an injury or one
of those teams slips up, then all of a sudden
you got Kirk Cousins, who is one of the better
quarterbacks in the NFC and Minnesota's got an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
That was just surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I thought they would look at this year and say,
all right, let's let's give it one final run and
then if it doesn't work out, everybody moves on. But
I mean, maybe they're working on a deal justin Jefferson.
That was part of the motivation for wanting to move
on from Dalvin Cook. But yeah, I don't know, to
your Jordan love point, were you a good when you
passed your driver's test? Were you a good driver when
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you got your license? Because I was awful?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
No, I was.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I mean I did have an accident like early on
driving and it was one of the few I'd have
basically ever, right, which Chopper wasn't too happy about that.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Ye.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yeah, well so so it's this is actually kind of neat.
It's one of the coolest things about my hometown in Dublin, Ohio.
So if you go over to Dublin, Ireland, like if
you ever get a chance to go over there, one
of the things that you see dividing up the property
lines are these like little they're probably about I don't
know three about three maybe four feet high, These kind
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of stone wall borders and they divide up the property line.
So it's not like you know, your you're you know,
picket fences or you know, you know, wired fencing or
anything like that. It's these pretty stone walls that kind
of divide up the property. And obviously in Dublin, Ohio,
uh kind of paying homage to it, but you have
a fair amount of Irish settlers. They they did something
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very similar in our hometown. So all throughout, like the
older portion or historic portion of our town, you get
you know, these stone walls. And so it was we're
coming back from a friend's house, me and a buddy,
and I was at a stop sign and I looked
left kind of quick, and there was the stone wall,
and there was kind of some cars parked like in
the on the street, and so I kind of glanced,
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you know, quick left, looked back right, was okay there,
started to turn, stopped, saw a car coming. That car
never adjusted this path. I didn't have time to throw
in reverse and get out of the way. So actually
that car hit me. But anyway, that was one of
the first times, you know, getting in an accident. My
dad came over, was extremely pissed. My buddy basically threw
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me under the bus to the uh the when we
you know, called.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
For the police report all that, which it was like.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I was listening to him, by the way, give the description,
you know, and when you're sixteen and yes, the passenger
the other vehicle was driving northbound on it. He was like,
you know, the way he was describing. I'm like, God, dude,
they're not gonna arrest you. But my whole point is
I was pretty good because my dad probably had me
start practicing driving when I was like fourteen.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
I mean literally he would when I was fourteen, when.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
We'd be like these open spaces, he would let me
go practice driving his truck. And I was always helped
me be so much more prepared for the actual time
when I had to do it, because I was taking
a live rep, you know what I'm saying. Before I
was really ready, I was taking that live rep. And
that's honestly, I mean. Not to get off on a
tangent and go back to NFL Europe. That's what I
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missed about NFL Europe. If the NFL Europe existed during
the time with Jordan Love, he would have been over
there playing games. They would have sent him and while
Rogers was there, they would have sent him over to Europe.
He could have played for Birmingham or whoever else you
know they had a team for and he would have
gotten some of those live reps. When he came back,
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they would have a much better idea of what he was.
But he'd be much further along too, as a quarterback
taking those live reps overseas.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I just that's why I look at this and I go,
come on, man, let the guy go through some some
of this stuff, the growing pains all that, and if
they have a bad season, and you mentioned it earlier
Rogers took over, they were six and ten. It's like,
you know, this stuff's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
It does.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's not an indictment on him, but what his future
is going to be. Just get growing pains, man. I
gotten an accident to pretty early on after I got
my license. Yeah, T Bone did an intersection after our
first concert as a van. Yeah, and listen, I could
have sworn that lights green upon further review.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Might have run a red. You know, I just not out.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I think about it and just sort of how everything
broke down, I might have might have run a red there.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You should have made a song about it. It could
have been like one of your your hit songs.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, well when you need one hit song to have
multiple to be able to use.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
That good point. So that could have been your hit song.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, it could have been it.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And that could have been read you know, whatever you
want to call.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
It could have been read read. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
A lot of a lot of going on there now.
When you mentioned when you by the way, T bone
Steak not a fan, I don't know why something about
it just not Yeah, just not a fan at all.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
You know, No bad likes a good tea bone is Lee?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I don't know. I would assume Lee likes a good
tea bone.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Because Todd and t I see change. I love a
T bone Steak. Yeah, there you go, that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I did a good feel for Lee. I feel like
I've got a good feel for what him. You know,
he likes what Todd Baby likes to.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, it's funny you were mentioning just sort of the
partitions the the beautiful stone work there that pays homage
to Dublin, Ireland.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Really Irish though, really the Irish people, and it's almost
like a spring of just Irish folks that popped up
there at Doublin on Hunt.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
What a great point that was. Oh my god.
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Speaker 3 (28:09):
Edmund Garcia all.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Right, thanks Jonas, we will get you updated on some
action from Major League Baseball. On Sunday. We had the
Brewers losing the Pirates four to one, the Cubs getting
to play well, beating the Braves six to four, and
the Reds lost their six in a row fall into
the Nationals six to three. So Chicago has caught Cincinnati
for second place in the NL Central and both the
game and half back in Milwaukee, and the Reds and
Cubs are tied for the final wildcard spot in the
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National League. Rangers shout out to Marlin six to nothing
for a three game sweep. Miami's a half game out
of that last wildcard spot in the NL. Texas still
has a two and a half game lead on Houston
and the al Wes. The Astros did keep pace with
a nine to seven win over the Yankees. Blue Jay's
beat up on the Red Sox thirteen to one. Toronto
with the three game sweep. Mariners get a four game
series sweep with the Angels with a three to two
win in ten inning seattles, two and a half back
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of Toronto for the last wildcard spot in the America.
The Angels, meanwhile, they're winless since the trade deadline, zero
to six. Ori'll shout out the Mets two nothing Baltimore
with a three games sweep. Rays beat the Tigers ten
to six. So Baltimore is still three up on Texas
for the tops spown in the AL East. I should
say three up on Tampa Bay. The Dodgers beat the
Padres eight to two. Was the Giants losing to the
A's eight to six, so LA now with a four
(29:15):
game lead on San Francisco in the NL West, and
the Twins beat the Diamondbacks five to three. That's six
losses in a row for Arizona. Walk off win from
Minnesota Guardians loose to the White Sox five three, So
Minnesota now with a four and a half game lead
on Cleveland in the Ale Central. And unlike most the
other teams in baseball, if you finished second place in
the AL Central, you're not going to get in the
playoffs because that division is so bad. So it looks
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like Minnesota moving into a pretty good spot right now.
Women's World Cup US is out very early on Sunday.
They lost five to four on penalty kicks to Sweden.
To Sweden after its scoreless one hundred and twenty minutes,
we're showing for the US in a major competition. They
were the two time defending World Cup champs. NFL Carolina
Panthers signed former Pro Bowl linebacker Justin Houston to a
one year deal worth up to seven million dollars, six
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million reportedly guaranteed. Now back to Brady Quinn and Jonas
Knox the Tirack dot Com. Fox Sports Radio Studio.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Thanks Eddie, two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. So Eddie mentioned the uh the
US women's national team.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah did you watch? Uh?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, I saw some of it. Yeah, it's interesting because
Carly Lloyd made some you know, some comments about their
behavior following their previous game and.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
The draw vers Portugal.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, and she got buried for it.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I mean people went after but just you know, people
on the the US women's national team, people.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
In the media, the former teammates.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, well, people that just were not happy about what
she had to say and just felt like she was
going a little bit too hard in the paint. And
then but it's okay, everything was fine because Megan Rappino
must have been aiming at somebody else's net. Maybe somebody
was holding up a net in the in the crowd
and that's.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
What she was Well, I mean, you wouldn't be surprised
too if she was expecting someone to the net for
her to be able to.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Make that goal.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It's just, you know, it is it is funny how
here we are and the vibe from this team just
felt different from other teams.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
In the Let me let me just say this. They
weren't a team.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And this isn't like me trying to be critical, Like
I've watched a ton of their games, watch that ton
of them play, and the stats would back that up.
You know that they they didn't pass as often to
one another. That was one of the stats that kind
of came out from the group play. I did think this,
this most recent you know, match was the best they'd
played the entire tournament, if you will. They just couldn't finish.
(31:36):
They had no attack and obviously Megan Rapeaa was a
part of that.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The PK situation was I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I mean, again, I've never played soccer at that high
of a level. I would think common sense would tell you.
And clearly the goal or objective is it to blow
it past the goal, right. It's not to miss, I
understand that, but you also have to least put it
on net, right, like if you're going to take an
opportunity or shot, like, at least give it a chance.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean hers didn't even have a shot or a chance.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And I felt like o'haro was in a tough spot
because she got subbed in Laid and was obviously part
of it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
But now too, they're goalie mayers. Is it. She's amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Not only does she have an amazing game, but to
go into and hit a PK herself and just add
to it, I mean, she gave them every opportunity to
be able to win that game.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
By the way, penalty kicks are just such a pain
in the ass. What a brutal way to lose. You
run around for hours and then it just turns into
all right, who can score and which goalie can guess?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I kind of like it though, like it adds to
a lot of suspense.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
So I had all three of my girls up early
watching it, and and reason being was this My oldest
daughter had literally played soccer the day prior and they
were doing a drill. She you know, was you know,
taking shots on the goal. Wasn't making it right. She
just turned seven this past weekend and she started she upset,
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and so I started talking. I'm like, why are you getting upset?
And she's the type that's she tries to be a
perfections She wants to always you know, she felt embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
She wants to always do everything right.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
And she asked me after Megan Raupeedo missed her shot,
why she's smiling?
Speaker 3 (33:15):
What she said good for her?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And I go sloan. I was like, you know, it's
it's a it's a good point and it's a good question.
I said. Now, the first thing I'll say to you
is she's not crying just because she missed a shot.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
But I but, I go, I have no idea why
she's smiling right now. I go, Daddy can't tell you,
because if it was me, I would be so mad
at myself. I would have a hard time keeping my
composure and and you know, so we talked a while
and had one of those moments. But you know, besides
the fact that they thought the sweeten jerseys they were
(33:51):
more attractive to the yellow colors. So at times, my
my three year old was rooting for Sweden and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no,
wrong team, wrong team.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
We're we're rooting for the US. Is just explaining to
them because they're like, you know, why are they crying?
Why are they so upset?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And I was trying to explain the situation to them,
but it got me to the point of it felt
like this team, which had, you know, time and time
again so much success, got maybe to the point where
some of the players weren't as focused on continually staying
on top like other things became more of the priority,
(34:27):
and ultimately that led to their worst performance in US
women's national team history. And really, you know, to what
scoreless games over the past two which has been as
bad as it was the limited amount of goals they've
scored in general. I mean, if you watched the first
game versus Vietnam, and I don't care if you're like, well,
Vietnam wasn't much of anything and they had players out.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It doesn't matter. They didn't even come close to dominating
that game as they should have.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Yeah, and like the penalty gig miss, so, Roberto Baggio
is one of the all time great Italian soccer players,
I mean, like top top of the list, like one
of the all time greats. If you just google search
Roberto Baggio, one of the first things that pops up,
if not the first, is miss penalty kick in the
World Cup. It changes the way that that guy's entire career, like,
(35:12):
he's viewed differently because of that one miss in a
penalty kick in the World Cup in ninety four against Brazil.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Never looked at the same And Meghan.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Rapeedo's just kind of smiling, Eh, whatever, we'll get him
there and then.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
And that's really and by the way, it wasn't like
that one kick was what you know, ultimately led to
him that your miss. Right, there's more misses that that
hurt us, whether Smith and O'Hara. But my whole point
is to your point, that is how she will be remembered.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I feel like, well, I think there's also a lot
of people that just don't like some of the other
stuff going on with them, you know, just.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Answer she gave to like what her favorite memory was,
you know, from her time playing she retired and she's
obviously had an incredible career, and I think her response
was equal pay.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
That that's going to rub a lot of people the
wrong way.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
And as a competitor, you know, you're thinking about, wait,
there wasn't a time with your teammates, you're not you
can't remember, like, you know, winning the World Cup and
having this sort of success.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
And priority is that it's equal pay priorities.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
You know, well, maybe maybe that speaks to you know,
maybe that speaks to why they didn't have as much
success this year.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
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Speaker 5 (38:44):
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Speaker 3 (38:47):
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Speaker 5 (38:48):
In case you missed it from over the weekend, uh
A photo has gone viral on Instagram, that being Carson
Wentz worthly, Hey Brady, that photo being of Carson Wentz
working out anohing quite newsworthy with that. But what is
noteworthy about this photo is that Carson Wentz is working
out with an Eagles helmet, a commander's practice jersey, and
Colt shorts.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Huh Well, interesting photo there doing the impossible. You know,
he's representing three teams at the same time. Did you
have how much of your practice gear? Do you still
have a various teams?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
That's a good question. I have some.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I don't have, you know, all of it in part
because I mean, we originally began my career in the
NFL with Rebok, so you know, some of that stuff
was good, some of it was trash.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Once we were with the Nike it was a little better.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
But like the good stuff from Reebok was always I thought,
better quality than the you know, some of the stuff
from Nike, like the quality of it just fell apart.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It wasn't as good. So I would say I'd say
I got a fair amount.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, Which were you a fan when you played in Seattle?
Were you a fan of those the Seahawks like their
unis and their gear and all that stuff. It feels
like there's way too much going on with them. That's
why I like these throwbacks, bringing back the throwbacks.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Less of the the throwbacks are my preferred, but I
still thought their uniforms were pretty dope. I've gotten no
complaints about Seattle, Like everything about that place was awesome.
Like literally that that, I think, to me was the
best organization that I was a part of during my
time going to different teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Granted it took me seven years to be.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Able to get there, and you know they obviously wasn't
even with them for that season, just the off season,
but that that five months there in the off season
with them, that was one of the more enjoyable experiences.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Their uniforms was part of that.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, it's kind of wild that this is where we're
at with Carson Wentz.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
It's more surprising that there's not a team with and
I think if you look at some of the teams
who might need a backup or want to have a
veteran guy in there, well Washington would be one.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
But you can't have Washington, right, he's just there. Yeah,
they've moved on.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
That didn't work out too well. You know, Atlanta would
be another one that maybe would make some sense. But
you know, I don't know how much of it is
on him either. And maybe he doesn't want to take
a lesser contract just to be a backup. Maybe he
wants to wait for a potential injury to happen where
a starter goes down and they need a guy with
experience and so he's got leverage at that point.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
There's all sorts of different scenarios.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
But I would have thought that he would have maybe said,
let's just go ahead and find a safe spot to be.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, it's a little, uh, a little wild to see
what's happening with Carson Wentz, but we're going to get
a little wild now or too, And it's yours next.
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