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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Nax with you here. Coming up on
this Wednesday edition, we look back at episode one of
Hard Knocks, an interesting representation of the New York Jets,
and apparently fine dining is a little bit rare for
some of the people on the Jets. We will discuss.
We're also going to have a conversation about one team
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in the NFL who thought they had gotten rid of
their problem and now they've got another problem and people
in the media are not happy about it. Iowa football
back in the news. Apparently shooting hot dogs will make
everybody forget that you're a degenerate gambler. We're also gonna
have a conversation about the ore tag when it comes
to the quarterback depth chart around the NFL. Somebody in
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the NFL spoke openly about the dysfunctional organization they played for. Plus,
we're gonna have our midweek awards. We got the BQ
News and the old p Petris Papadakas, it's yours coming
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The Hell's going on, Brady Quinn?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Not much, man, It's just some hard docks. Last night
you can yeah baby TV appointment television, Yeah did you watch?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I did.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I got a little bit of an issue going on
right now in studio. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, I was trying to use some hand sanitizer, big
hand sanitizer guy, And I.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Don't think like over using hand sanitizer is good for you,
is it? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
No, but I just I wanted to use just a
little bit of it, and I tried to squirt it
out and I couldn't get it to leave the bottle,
and then I twisted it the other way and it
wasn't working. I went back to the opposite side and
then it just sprayed all over my laptop. So I
got sanitizer all over my laptop. At least it's clean, right, Yeah,
first time for everything, you know. Yeah, so it could
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have used that your laptop.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That my god, it's like it's like Watson, Yeah, that's
my this is my I called this my Deshaun Watson device.
So you just leave me alone. I let that. Uh,
but hey, it's clean now. So there is that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
You can't create like artificial intelligence that way. That's not
exactly how it's created.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's not how that's how it's done. Yeah, what is it?
Boston Dynamics. Is that where they do it? Harvard Dynamics.
Where do they do that at?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, I don't know. Whatever you're doing seems pretty dynamic, But.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So Yeah, listen to Hard Knocks one episode in What
do you think, Brady Quinn, You're gonna make it for
episode two or nah?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Because I feel like I'm kinda all right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I can I make an honest envision.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I didn't even make it to episode one, so I'll
catch up on it some point.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Look, it's just it's kind of the same old, same old.
It's getting to know everybody. Early on, I thought they
were going to focus more on the Sean Payton stuff.
Rogers was kind of busting Nathaniel Hackett's balls about they
were doing the pylon game at the end of practice,
where you try and hit the pylon. I don't know
if that's something you ever partook in as a quarterback,
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but they would try and hit the pylon with the
football and then you would try and distract the other guys.
So Aaron Rodgers shouted Sean Payton when Nathaniel Hacket playing,
and they were just kind of giving each other a
hard time. But the one thing I took away from
the Nathaniel Hackett stuff, I could see why players really
like him, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm super nice, like energy.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Energetic, and it makes sense why Rogers is really supportive
of him, because that seems like a guy you would
want to play for.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Like, he seems like a fun guy.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
He's super fun, super nice, I mean, from from all accounts.
And and look, there's some guys who they get an
opportunity to be a head coach before they're ready and
it doesn't work out. There's some guys who are just
better position coaches, they're better offensive coordinators. That's that's just
that's what they are, and that's okay. There's there's nothing
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wrong with that. And those guys might get an opportunity
to be a head coach and when they do, they
might struggle. That's okay, Like failure's okay if you'll learn
from it and move on from it and you kind
of figure some things out from it, if you just
take it for what it is. You know, it's you're
never going to allow yourself to move past and get better,
but you know it's I think he's got a good
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reputation from anyone who's ever coached him as a you know,
as an OC, as a position coach, and people love him.
So it look, I saw some clips from obviously Hard Knocks.
I didn't watch the whole thing we'll see five time
to do so. But it seems like, you know, there's
a true connection between him and Aaron Rodgers. And if
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the Jets have success this year, I personally look at
it and say, it's going to be in large part
because of Nathaniel Hackett, because if Nathaniel Hackett's not there,
I don't know that they get Rogers, Like I don't
know that Aaron wants to go to the New York Jets.
I think if I think if Nathaniel Hackett was still
in Denver, they would have tried to make some sort
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of move to get Aaron Rodgers of Denver, Like like,
that's how close I feel like those two are.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, it was really playing out, and you could see
Rogers and up for him talking about their relationship, how
it started, how close they are. You know, they're not
that far apart in age obviously, and so Rogers and him,
you know, needle each other and get on each other,
and you just see sort of how the other players
have rallied around Nathaniel Hackett. So it made all the
sense in the world when you hear that. But we
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do have a little bit of a clip from Hard Knocks.
I would love for you to take a listen to
and tell me how fired up this gets you. Because
Robert Sala was speaking to the team and he wanted
to make sure that everybody's minds were in the right places.
So we've got a little something for you to get
you fired up here or maybe not fired up at
all on your Wednesday morning. So Brady Quinn a guy
who sat in rooms hearing speeches from coaches to try
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and get you motivated at it detwear for twenty something
years playing football. Here's Robert Sala talking with his team
last night, courtesy of Hard Knocks on HBO.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
The only bird, the only burden in the world that
will attack an eagle is a crow. We'll perch on
the eagles back and peck at its neck. So rather
than fight back and tearing a crow to pieces like
it can, the ego spreads its wings and it soars
as high as it possibly can. It keeps going and
going as high as it can, and the higher the
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ego flies.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
The harder it is for the crow to breathe.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Eventually, the crow suffocates, falls back down the earth and dies.
That's what happens, guys. We got a great deal of hyperondis.
We do all kinds of expectations, and with great expectations,
we know that there's going to be a whole lot
of people, a whole lot of crows, expecting us to
fall on our face.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
What are you doing to find.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
That little bit more to get as closer to being
a great team? You finish practice, not what you finished?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Meetings?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Now?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
What lifting? Now?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
What?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
And if we'd come together and we challenge ourselves to
do a little bit more every day, the crows they'll
fall by themselves.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, I've got it.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And with the music in the background now where they
pipe it in the music in the meeting room while
they will he's given the speech, because that really what
it at lo have added to it, you know, the.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Whole crow eagle comparison there I feel like that?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Or or do you want to be a crow? You
don't want to be a crow? Right? That was the
point of it.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I think so. But here's what I would say
about crows. Crows get kind of a bad rap they do.
Why don't you ask hawks about crows? Crows go after hawks.
I remember growing up we would always see that if
a hawk was in the in the area, trying to
kill one of our pigeons. We knew the crows are
going to take it. You know, they've got a little
gang going on there. So I feel like he kind
of mistressed that crows. Yeah, yeah, we had pigeons growing up.
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Why not? Not really sure, but we did.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yes, never never pictured you for a pigeon guy.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Very very smart, like we sent them away them.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, and Mike Tyson did that for a while.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
He did, and they got they got out of control.
There was too many of them, and so we said,
all right, we got to.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
They were like on drugs or something, right, Don't they
hype those things up? Sometimes?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I don't think that we did, unless they got into
if there was like a stash of meth or something
around the house somebody might have left out.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Maybe that might have been the case.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But I remember we were trying to get rid of
them one time, and so we put them in a
box in this sense, so inhumane. We put them in
a box, and we were worried about them potentially flying back,
so we marked their feathers with like a pink highlighter,
just thinking okay, well we'll see if they come back,
And we drove them out for all the way to
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Santa Barbara, which is way up north, like an hour drive.
No way, they're going to find their way back, And
they found their way all the way back in a
couple of days.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Pretty amazing birds.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
But who cares to say what was the mortal of
that story?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I don't know, not really sure, but I figured i'd
give my best Robert Sala here for hard knocks considering, I.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Think you pointed out something though, that's interesting, Like anything
a coach says under dramatic music can sell so great, badass, right,
do you know what a what an eagle does and
a crows on its back? The funny the funny thing
about that that you sam The funny thing about those
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sorts of speeches are all you're trying to do as
a coach is get one thing that the players can
take with them, like one small little note, anecdote, something
to take with them, and that is that was enough.
Like there'll be dudes, they come out of locker them.
He may I gotta be like an eagle, You'll say, Man,
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gotta be like an eagle, you know, so high above
it like that that will be the one thing they
take away from the whole crow egle thing. And it works,
and it moves forward and it gets people's attention and
it's it's cool until it's not. Like I feel like
last year there's a lot of those you know things
that Robert Sala would say and it was like, oh yeah,
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and the media loves it, right The media loves Robert
Solin rightfully. So he's a good guy and I think
he's doing you know, he's trying to do the best
job he can as a head coach to get his
team mentally figured in the right direction. But there's also
an element of there's not there's there's not always something
to be said, there is always something to be done,
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There's not always something to be said. And that's where
this team is at right now.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Who is the best coach speak you ever got? Who
is the best that he threw some dramatic music under him,
it'd be even better.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
John Fox gets the kids could give some pretty good
pregame speeches. Jeff Fisher gave some pretty good pregame speeches.
I mean his usual was player. I mean that that's
the truth. It was usually players who would give the
best pregame speech. Brian Dawkins gave some as you know,
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as a passionate speech as you'll ever find from a player,
I mean, just pouring his heart out type speech before games.
He's I mean, he's everything as a Hall of Famer
you'd hope, but like also so much more than that,
as like a man like spiritually everything else he was.
He was one of the most I don't even know
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how to describe, like being around him just supernatural, Like
he really was, Like when you'd see him after games
and how beat up he'd be, and then before the game,
the way he'd come out of the tunnel run out there,
like dude, that dude just transformed and he was barely
able to move. And you'd see it every week for
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sixteen weeks back then, and you're just like, man, that's impressive.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Now, there was a pretty good back and forth between
some Jets linemen.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
This to me, Oh, yeah, do we have this out? Yes?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
We do?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
All right, So this is Solomon Thomas talking about potentially
going to Broadway, maybe taking some of his teammates, but
wanted to make sure that they really appreciate it. And
then you had John Franklin Myers talking about maybe getting
fancy and this is how it played out last night
at HBO you know, you said you.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Don't want me to go to Broadway.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
I said that because I feel like you'd be talking
during the play and I want you to respect the performance.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Okay, how much?
Speaker 6 (13:15):
So I want to eat a Krucci board.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Or Cucci board?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
What did he call it?
Speaker 7 (13:30):
I don't know that it's coeri if I if I
believe that I have the Yeah, I want to eat.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Rucci board Cucci. I mean, that's the thing about a
locker you love though. You get a lot of guys
who you know, come from places and backgrounds that they're
not as exposed to stuff, and and like you know,
they're they're getting exposed to more things. And it's cool
that is That is one of the cooler things about
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like hanging out different teammates is like see like they
get this. You get to experience stuff with them for
the first time.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh man, you like grapes on your Carcucci board?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Or what do you the Carcucci board?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
What are you looking at? Here are you? How do
you like yours? Diced up?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You like three different kinds of crackers and maybe like
some apple slices and grapes? Like, how do you like
your carcucci? If you had if you had to break
yours down, Brady Quinn, you're a big find, oh.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Guy, Yeah, I'm not sure I'm breaking on a Carcucci board.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay, all right, well stick around. At some point during
the course of the show, we might break down our deal.
Our four is the Carcucci Hour here, so we will
break down a Carcucci.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Board coming up an hour four. That's what we do
here on this show.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. It's Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
So we're gonna have the usuals coming up later on.
We do have another edition I in case you missed it.
We've got our Midweek Awards we're gonna hand out. We're
also going to talk with the old p Petres papadakas
the BQ News. It's all yours here, a three hour
extravaganza on Fox Sports Radio. But we do have ourselves
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a battle of egos, a power struggle in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
We'll tell you who it involves. That's next.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
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Speaker 1 (15:33):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So coming up in a little over.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Twenty minutes from now, we're going to have a conversation
about one of the teams that's been in the news
for all the wrong reasons over the past several days
in the world of football. So we are going to
get into that for you again a little over twenty
minutes from now in another edition of In Case you
missed it. I mean, I could have sworn Dan Snyder
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was gone, Brady, I could have sworn everything was fine.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Now we can just focus on all the positive stuff.
It seemed like there were going to be no more issues,
no more problems, no more nothing in Washington with the
Commandos other than the fact that the team named stinks
and they probably got to make a change. And then
Ron Rivera, the head coach of the Washington Commandos, was
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talking yesterday about how some of the players there have
a little bit of an issue with the approach of
new offensive coordinator Eric b Enemy, And so here was
Rivera speaking with the media, which did not land well
with a lot of people who cover sports and a
lot of people who may or may not have a
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preconceived notion as to who Eric Benemy is.
Speaker 9 (16:54):
I had a number of guys come to me. I said,
just go talk to him. I said, understand what he's
trying to get across to you, you know, And I
think as they go and they talk and they listen
to him, it's it's been it's been enlightening for a
lot of these guys. I mean, it's a whole different approach.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You know.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
Again, you're getting a different kind of player from from
the players back in the past, especially in line of
how things are coming out of college football. So a
lot of these young guys, you know, they do struggle
with certain certain things. Eric has an approach and it's
the way he does things, and he's not gonna change
and and and because he believes in it. Jack has
his approach, you know, having been a head coach, I
think Jack has a tendency to try and figure guys
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out a little bit more as opposed to, Hey, this
is it, this is the way it's going to be.
That type of stuff where Eric, Eric hasn't had that
that experience yet.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Just when they came to you, it's just they felt
like Eric was riding them.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Too hard or well, they just were a little concerned,
all right.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So that was rono Vera talking about.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Okay, so let me start off by asking you this question,
should we be concerned? Is this a big deal?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Then why is this getting out there? Why is this discussed?
Why is this becoming public it?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
My guess would be there are some people that have
perceived that as him throwing Eric b enemy under the bus,
that be enemy already has an issue with players there
in Washington. That that's the way I've read it, which
I hear the quote. I see the quote and I go, okay, well,
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let me hear the sound. You hear the sound, and
it landed differently from me from Ron Rivera.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Well, I think it always hits different when you hear
someone's tone, right, you see, you hear the way they're
actually saying something, which you can't get lost in all
of this. It does seem like an odd time to
have this sort of conversation. I mean, we're we're just
now entering into the preseason game portion of training camp.
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What what you used to say was the toughest part
of training camp's over. It was not even really a
tough part anymore for training camp. But if if you
want to label a portion of it, that's what we
just got got through. It's just odd that this is
becoming a subject. It's it's even odd that it's being addressed.
I'm not sure why it's it's needed to be addressed.
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I'm not sure if you know the question prompted the
response to it because some players have talked about it,
or the media has witnessed that. You know, Eric Banamy
has had a reputation of being an old school coach.
He was a former player, came from an era where
coaches were a lot tougher on you. And so there's
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some coaches who have continued that approach, and some have said, like,
I can't coach anymore for that reason. And there's others
who've adapted to the type of players that they're getting
now that don't feed off of that. So it's it's
tough to know what exactly the endgame is unless you
know you would be willing to admit that Ron Rivera
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might be on the hot seat. Is it fair to
say that, yeah, and who would take over I Ron
Rivera got fired, probably Eric the Enemy, Okay, And so
then you have to wonder to yourself that if you
you don't start planning seeds that make people think that
maybe Eric b Enemy wouldn't be best suited for it.
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And maybe this is one of the reasons why, especially
with an organization that's had issues in their own way
from ownership and the workplace, et cetera. But that'd be
the other way you'd go about looking at it is
that that's coming out almost as a way of Ron
Rivera kind of putting up a shield or I guessed
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an obstacle for the new brass new ownership in Washington
to move on from him and hire Eric Beenemy as
a head coach. Since the NFL has clamored for this,
I mean they've clamored the off season for Eric Bnemy
to be hired as a head coach for quite some time.
It hasn't happened. This would be the other way it
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could potentially happen, and unfortunately it'd be at the dismay
of Ron Rivera. You know, being a head coach there
in Washington.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
If you were Eric Banemy would it bother you that
Rivera made those comments.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I mean, he's my head coach, so no, I mean
the reality is, I don't know Eric Bienimere is you know,
coaching style. I'm not sure you know how he would
take that. I mean, you have a head coach. He's
speaking on what he's being asked about, and it sounds
like Ron Rivera is really truthful. I don't know that
there's anything to you know, pick a part to.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Say, yeah, I mean, like the one thing about the enemy,
because he also spoke yesterday just about his approach and
his style. The one thing you can say about the
enemy when you hear him in this clip is that
clearly humble, been through a lot, doesn't think too highly
of himself. And if you're doubting the validity of that
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statement that we just made, will take a listen.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Yes, I am intense and I would be afraid to
the start if I didn't know him. Eric Beenemy is
who he is. Okay, Eric Beenemy knows how to adapt
and adjust. Eric Bannemy is a tough, hard nosed coach.
But also understand I'm going to be the biggest and
harshest critic, but I'm also the number one fan because
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I've got day back and I'm gonna support them at
all time.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I mean so I already know what bothered you in
this clip. So just so our listeners understand, Jonas does
not like when anyone talks a third person. It's it's
very seldom that I think most people actually do. But
immediately when we just listen to a clip from Eric
Bannity talking about Eric Biennevie that rubbed you the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I don't get it, man, I just I don't get it.
It's never landed well with me. I can't imagine ever
having a discussion with somebody and saying, you know, Jonas
Knox feels this sort of way.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And there's only one person who's been able to do
it and get away with it, and that is Ricky Henderson.
Ricky Henderson talking about himself, the third person is quite
possibly the most quotable amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, he gets a pass. He's one of those.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It's kind of like when Charles Barkley can say things
on television that nobody else can say because he's got
it's just sort of built in, it's grandfathered in.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He gets a pass.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Ricky Henderson do whatever you want to do and talk
about yourself as much as possible. But I think just
big picture, the reason why this didn't land wrong with
a lot of people is because they're really sensitive to
the Eric the enemy conversation and the discussion because nobody
wants to just say what a lot of people and
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You've talked about this as well too on the air
for a couple of years, because the conversation about him
getting an opportunity has been floated out there for years.
He's interviewed and and nobody wants to say maybe he
just didn't interview well. Like nobody wants to say it.
There's been a lot of and they want to go
race card and minority high. There's been a lot of
minority hires in the NFL since Eric Vienemy had his
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first head coaching interview. I does it not have any
sort of possibility thrown in there that maybe he just
doesn't interview well and maybe something like that doesn't land
well with a lot of people who are looking to
hire a head coach who's got his approach that already
isn't sitting well with players in Washington, so much so
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that the head coach had to talk about it before
we even get to the preseason game. Like to me,
I think that's a real possibility, and I think that
may be playing out here, but people are sensitive to
it and nobody wants to have just a real conversation
about it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Well. Look, I think there's a lot of there's a
lot of parts of the hiring process that need to
be improved in the NFL RAN bottom line. Yeah, And
I think the tough thing is there's probably a percentage
of people out there who don't interview well but can
do their job well. Right, those are two different requirements, Right,
There's a skill set that you have to be able
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to apply to any career, any job, and you might
be good at that, but you know what, you might
not be good at being able to sit in front
of someone and sell them how good you are. Now.
Based on that clip, I would think Eric Enemy could
talk very well about Eric Pienemy in front of a
in front of an owner in an interview. But that
being said, you know, there's elements to the interview process
(25:46):
that he might not excel at where you know, don't
matter but it does the hiring process, but it doesn't
matter to the actual job, right, And those are some
of the issues that I think every industry you know,
faces in regards to its hiring process. But there's also
this idea that will, hey, Eric B. Enemy has been
their offensive coordinator and no, look at all the success
that Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs and they're having. Okay, Well,
(26:10):
I guess we'll see, you know how successful Washington's offense
is this year? Right with Eric B. Enemy there, if
everyone's assuming that he's an offensive genius because of what
happened with the Chiefs, or I guess we'll see what
happens with the Chiefs, Like, are they going to take
a step back without Eric B. Enemy? I mean I
would have sat there and made the statement that you know,
(26:35):
it doesn't matter that what the Chiefs lost in Matt
Naggy and Doug Peterson, they still move forward, right, I mean,
the last time I checked Joan's tell me, did they
win a couple of Super Bowls?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah? They were okay.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And also I would have said they probably would have
taken a step back after they lost Tyreek Hill and nope.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Nope, I mean one of the Super Bowls. So like
for the people out there who want to use the accolades,
the accomplishments of Eric Enemy during his time with Kansas
City and those you know during that span. That's great,
but yeah, like there's there's two main components to that formula,
and it's Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, right, Like, those
(27:13):
are the main two components, and then everything else is
complimentary of that. But it's not what makes the chiefs
go at least not offensively speaking. So I think, look,
the hiring process could be improved. There's people who are
sensitive that. That's why they get a little bit frustrated
with Eric b Enemy not getting opportunities even though he's
been in OC that's you know, labeled OC, even though
(27:37):
it's still any Reid call in the plays and other
people are clamoring for that. Right, he'll get a shot. Now,
He'll get his opportunity, right Like, That's that's how this
is probably gonna end up working out. And I think,
to just bring it full circle, it's probably why you're
hearing Ron Rivera make some of these public comments, is
he wants to make it very well known the coaching
style and what Eric the Enemy could end up being,
(28:01):
or if there are any issues with players, like kind
of creating a little bit out of that awareness for it,
for saying like, hey man, if there are issues, then
this is something that like he might have to eventually address,
especially if you're getting out in front of it in
training camp and the season that hasn't even started yet.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It's also I think it would be pretty a realistic
possibility that Eric b enemy. Maybe he's a little bit
more frustrated at times, because when you go from Patrick
Mahomes and everything that they've already built, as you pointed
out with Andy Reid, and then he's tasked with taking
over a team that doesn't have Patrick Mahomes and doesn't
have all that success. Yeah, maybe he's getting a little
(28:41):
bit more frustrated than he normally would. And maybe that
hasn't shown in practices in Kansas City, but it is
in Washington because he's not dealing with the kind of
talent that he was dealing with, and maybe there's an
adjustment on his end. Regardless, I mean, yeah, he's going
to get his opportunity, and you know, it just depends
on how people want to take this run with it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
When it comes to Ron Rivera.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I would be surprised though it does feel like Ron
Rivera is at least going to be safe for this year,
because I can't imagine new ownership would come in and say,
you know, they've had a problem with you know, a
lot of turnover here when it comes to head coaching. Now,
I'm not even going to give him the full season.
Ron Rivera's gone and he's just gonna move on. Like
I would find it hard to believe that Ron Rivera
(29:22):
would be the first coach fired or the first coach
especially fired in season. But I don't know, I could
be reading the whole thing wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So no, I think you're right. I mean, I think
they will probably take a patient approach. It's one of
which you reevaluate after the first year. I mean, I
think any new ownership, I mean, if they're smart the
way they go about doing it, you're not going to
come in and immediately start making a ton of changes.
You're going to kind of come sit, observe, watch how
things operate, and then kind of move on from there
(29:50):
and see, you know, based on your observation, your experience,
and maybe some of your consultation, how you go about
trying to implement the changes you want to make, and
any big decisions like that that you know you kind
of get together after the season figure out, Okay, if
we're going to move on from a guy who's been
a really good head coach in the NFL, who are
you gonna get? We better have someone in mind that
(30:12):
we feel really really good about selling to our fan base.
And I've already told you my theory. I mean, like,
if Washington finds themselves in the position to draft Caleb Williams,
everyone assumes Arizona is going to be that team with
the top overall pick. But let's say it's Washington, it's
where he's from, Killboyans is from the DC area, And
(30:33):
and I could see a scenario where, you know, they
offer Lincoln Riley the job as well, and have those
two come into the NFL together. And I think if
if you're Lincoln Riley, you'd have to contemplate it. If
not simply for the fact that it is the NFL,
You've got new ownership that's bringing you in as their guy,
their head coach, and in that in that instance, you've
got your quarterback, which is our our you know, a
(30:55):
couple of big, big reasons outside of a huge payday,
that why you'd want to do that. But this are
all hypotheticals and everything else. But you could see how
that sort of thing could could align pretty quickly.
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Speaker 10 (34:15):
Good morning Jonas, Good morning Brady, guys. In case you
missed this, Iowa Hawkeyes fans have something to look forward
to this season.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Uh Hayley, Hey Brady, how's it going? Hey Sam?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
How you doing? Hey guys?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I always shand up.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
With wimmers, meats and is introducing Diviner Slinger, which is
a hot dog cannon, which is going to be introduced
this weekend.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Hold on, I can say that and getting real quick
to take to deer slinger.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Slinger and it's a hot dog cannon. It's a hot
dog cannon in the shape of a hot dog.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
It is in the shape of a huge hot dog,
I mean, and it'll be slinging them glizzies the Jones.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Hold on, so I had a glizzy in my mouth.
Here's now, Iowa has already established themselves as a state
filled with degenerate gamblers, already established themselves. Yeah, this story
has been out since May.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, about Iowa being a bunch of general gamblers.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (35:21):
I My theory I floated at Jonas is that because
Iowa was one of the first states to have a
legalized sports gambling, Uh that that's just the infrastructure to
gamble has been around longer, so they just I don't know.
This will this will come to the forefront with other universities.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
By the way, don't steer away from the fact that
while we were talking about this, he made sure to
point out all the transgression of Iowa state players and
left out you know several of the Iowamen.
Speaker 11 (35:45):
No, it was a it was a pretty much an
equal opportunity offense here from from all parties.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
He had a punter betting on the Syhawk. No, it
was a backup kicker, but then hunters.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
And by the way, he won the bets.
Speaker 11 (35:55):
He won the bet and hundred Decker is the storting
starting quarterback for Iowa State.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
He won his bet as well. Yeah, that's right, but
he bet on his.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
The American way is we really should only be you know,
upset with some of these individuals if they lost their bet,
but they won their bet. I mean, is that the
the US way?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
The American way totally agree to.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
These guys are winners. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Now, as far as this hot dog cannon goes, how
far can this thing shoot?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Because I feel like you would be better served just
having somebody throw it. Like, listen about one of these
degenerate flunky gamblers who can't play anymore. Have them passed
out hot dogs to try and make, you know, make
ends meet while they get back and figure out, you know,
how to how to you know, legalize what their activities
were as far as gambling on their own team.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I feel like, just throw those bad boys out. You
don't need a hot dog cannon.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
I am worrying that.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
I am worried that they're unveiling it during kids day
at Caneck Stadium. You know, if it's launching a little
too hard, my might hurt some kids.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Out there flying hot dog. You'll shoot your eye out.
What else?
Speaker 10 (36:57):
Got another another tradition that's uh going to be returning,
The Auburn tradition of toilet papering the Oakstomber's Corner is
going to be coming back after six years.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Finally grew that tree back after Harvey Updyke poisoned it.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I'm sorry, what is this?
Speaker 10 (37:16):
So the tradition at Auburn of toilet papering the oaks,
obviously that has gone away since the poisoning of the
Yolks tree.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And there was some fires in the last few years
that had hurt the.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Noise, all because of one bad actor or one bad
year where they poison the trees. Now we can't do
any of the tepee stuff.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Well, they had to replant some trees and it took
a few years for those two get grown in, so they.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
They were too cheap. They don't want to buy the
mature ones.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
All keep attacking like that. They went through some trauma.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I mean, that's an awful thing for somebody to do,
to poison a tree like that.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
You know, it is trauma. And so what do you do?
You try to replace those trees fully mature as fast
as possible. It just costs a little extra money. They
don't want to spend the money.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Did you guys ever go toilet papering as a kid?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Of course, Yeah, I was like one of those fun
things you did for sometimes, like it was like someone's
birthday or whatever it was. But yeah, that was like
one of those cool, like high school memories right.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
In fact, you know, it is one of those things
though where when you get older you realize it's kind
of an a hole move.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Oh, you know, it's really to the parents. That's the
problem is the parents have to clean it up pretty much.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, that's that's like that would not land well with
me now because I got egged. My car got agged
about a year ago. And did I tell you the story?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
No, But I'm so glad.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So I'm driving down there's this road to get to
my place, and it's it's sort of a dark it's
dark at night, there's not a lot of street lights,
and there's like a dog park on the right side.
So as I'm coming down, I was leaving my mom's house,
and you know, it's about like a little over a
mile away, And as I'm coming down this dark road,
all of a sudden, on my windshield, I just get
(38:55):
I thought it was gunshots. I'm like, whoa, And I
kind of swerved and I'm looking around and I couldn't
figure out what happened. I thought my windshield have been cracked,
and so I pull into my driveway and I look,
and I don't know who was throwing it or if
they had one of these weenie cannons, but they got
every inch of that windshield destroyed. There was a yeah, well,
(39:17):
and I was pissed but there but I pulled like
an old man move.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I did, but they were already gone.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
And look, I may have grabbed like a long flathead screwdriver,
thinking that was going to do anything, But then I
ended up calling the cops afterwards, Cops on. I know,
it was such a douche move, such a deep I
was so pissed, But you are such a biggest douche
move in my life.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm a share.
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