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Speaker 1 (01:28):
I just don't really know what the hell's going on
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Time you need Samanthacid something because you're your tummy's filming
some type of way.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I just I assumed we were over the Baltimore Ravens
doing Baltimore Ravens things, and then yesterday happening against Cleveland.
I assumed that Jacksonville was a legitimate contender in the AFC,
and then yesterday happened to San Francisco between them and
the Niners. I just very confused by most notably those
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two games and how those went down.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Very Who's great in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I don't know. I really don't know. I'm not sure
because everybody feels flawed.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
What it feels like on any given week, any team
can maybe almost beat any team, which I mean, that's
a good thing, that's what the NFL wants. But I
feel like in prior years, by this point in time
in the season, you had teams who were getting on
a run.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
They displayed kind of who they are.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And look, maybe the Niners are that team after that
three game skid. Now healthy, they look like they're could
be dominant, being able to get a win like that
versus Jacksonville. Maybe they're that team. It's hard to tell,
but I usually feel like at this point in time
the season, we've got one or two teams where like, yeah,
those two teams look like they might be scoring off
in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
A dominant team in the National Football League. I mean,
I don't know, Man, is it the forty nine It
can't We just said the forty nine ers can't be it.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
But they did look really good. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
The Niners were. That game wasn't close.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
And can we say Minnesota they had a bounce back game?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, I mean, there's still you know, feels like there's
some question marks there and they've got some some injuries.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But like the Niners game. We were talking last week.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We were like, okay, you're seeing the line and it
says Niners minus three, and it's like they just lost
three straight games. Jacksonville feels like they've found a little something.
They've been on a little bit of a roll. And
then you just got the impression early on in that game,
Oh it's over, Like Jacksonville had no answers, And I
don't know what. Does Doug Peterson just not like Travis
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at ten junior?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Does he just not like him?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Like I don't I don't know that. And like the
offense just feels disjointed. It feels like they're stressing to,
you know, take shots deep when they you know, could
just methodically work the ball down the field. It seems
like Calvin Ridley, I don't know why he's not more
involved in various ways. I mean, I know their offensive
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line at times struggled, and yesterday it surely did versus
the pass rush. But that's understandable. You know, San Francisco
is some of the best personnel. I guess you'd say
the five weeks prior because they were in a five
game winning streak, that wasn't an issue. But I don't know, man,
it's tough to put your finger on what it is.
You know, you feel like sometimes Trevor Lawrence presses too much,
he misses some throws.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I just I guess I'll put it this way.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I go back to last year and I look at
Kansas City, for example, who won the super Bowl. Between
Week seven and the super Bowl, they lost one game,
one game, and that was at Cincinnati.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
That was it. Like, we have not had that.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Sort of team this season. And again, maybe it's a
good thing for the NFL. Maybe it makes for a
really interesting postseason. But I also think for like the
gamblers out there, the betters, it's been really difficult. I
feel like I feel like for some of the top
teams it's been it's been difficult. I mean the way
some of those games ended, and in particular the fourth quarter.
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I mean, you mentioned Baltimore. I mean LaVar, I think
you said it last week.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I mean you insistent.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Well, and it's crazy to me only because they're up
to scores and you know, you got Todd Monkin in there.
I know he likes to throw it around and there
was like, what eight nine minutes left something like that.
When the ball gets tipped up, Greg Newsom gets it
for a pick six and then and then like all
of them momentum, no excuse me, all of the mo
mediums shifted towards Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
You're going, well, why don't.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
They just try to run the ball a little bit
more like they were successful doing it, and you kind
of need to run some of the clock out up
to scores and backed up, like wouldn't make sense just
to kind of run play a little more conservative.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Nope, remember what we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I asked you, I said, what's that feeling like when
the ball pops up in the air and you're kind
of Lamar Jackson's face when that ball went up in
the air was.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Like, dude, do you have no idea so that when
that happens, that ball it feels like time stops.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
It literally does.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
It feels like time stops and everyone else is moving,
but like time has somehow stopped. I remember, I remember
that happened to Derek Anderson when we were there back
at nine.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
He hit a ball get tipped up like that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
It was up in the air forever and I remember
they showed a replay on the Jumbo trom and after
he threw it, he kind of stood there very stoically
after the ball got tipped, just watching it, like, I mean,
obviously it was gonna get picked off at that point
because it was like a hot air balloon slowly landing,
and I was just like, my reaction would be, like
start running towards the ball because you're probably gonna have
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to make a tackle.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
He was just standing there watching it, and I remember
like it when he came over, he was.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Like, yeah, I think it was like I might have
been the third one of the half form in that case.
And I remember he was like, yeah, he's like that one.
He's like, I just thought it can't be a third one,
could it.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
It could be another one this half.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's just so it just seems like the most helpless
feeling in the world. Although listen, we do have to
give credit Deshaun Watson go did that thing out.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Yesterday, got it out.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
He was he was playing a little banged up look
like you know what, an ankle injury something like that.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, and he was he's gutting it out.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
M M.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Maybe it's the Eagles I'd say it's between the Eagles
and the Chiefs that are the best teams in the
National Football League. And I know the Eagles didn't play,
but don't you got to look at the Eagles and
the Chiefs who say that those are the best teams.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Is that because that was your Super Bowl pick?
Speaker 5 (07:29):
It is?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Those were my picks? Yeah, well Shockey, it's all right,
they are my picks. But wouldn't we say that those
are probably the best two teams in the National Football.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I agree with you are I think they are.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I mean, obviously by record you say Philly is right now,
but you know, I think you'd say in the AFC,
there's no one. I would say, Look, if you had
to bet money on some of the AFC, you're betting.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
On Kansas City. Yeah, they're They're the most consistent.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
They have Mahomes, their defense has been better, like they'll
figure out a way winning the game. And Phillies that
other team that I think their personal They've been dominant
at times and now everyone's got their weaknesses. But those
are the best two teams in the NFL. It's just
even Kansas City hasn't been consistent. They have not I
Philly is the only one that's got the best record.
But you know, you see at times you're like, I
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don't know if they'll be able to get you know,
it will make this happen if they can.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I'll tell you who isn't the best team in the
National Football League. It's the New York Giants. The New
York Giants are who I mean, what is the what
are the New York.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Giants right now?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
They're an awful football team.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Look, they're playing with the third string rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And then what's that quarterback's name?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Tommy DeVito.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
That was the best article that came out this weekend,
was talking about how he's still living at home with
the parents. The mom's doing the laundry and making them
his chicken cutlets. Like I'm just like, this is great.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
It's from It's perfect.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Why that's perfect?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It lives like ten to fifteen minutes away. It's a
it's a pretty cool story. It's just it's an unfortunate
situation to being at a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Would you guys have lived with your parents if it
was that convenient for you early on in your career?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, yeah, why not?
Speaker 5 (09:19):
I mean you're in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Now, dude, Like, there's a lot of personal reasons why
you do not want to be living with your parents.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
At that age. What do you agree with that? Mom?
Pretty simple?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Jonas Mom, what were you doing at that age dating
your teddy bear?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I mean, I mean, look, and whether or not my
teddy bear had an air valve or not, that's under
your business.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Okay, it still has that when you got that inflatable
loving lamb.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, it's I use it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It doubles up as it's a partner at night, and
then I use it so I can drive in the
carpool lanes.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, that must have been your experience, because otherwise I
have no idea why after college someone will want to
move back in with their parents unless they absolutely had.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
To, Unless they had to, He's saving a bunch of money,
there is that.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
I mean, you guys don't want to tell you about
the Bengals, like, you know, they look like they were
living at home with mom.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Oh geez, yeah, that's I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Could say with everyone of the Bengals, that was just
a CJ. Stroud takeover.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Like I said, he he won.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
The Offensive Rookie of the Year already. He might be
putting his hat in the MVP race right now.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, they were. CJ. Stroud was awesome. Baltimore still pisses
me off.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I don't get it, Like there's just I just come
away from yesterday going what the f man?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
And to your point, Brady, if you're.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Gambling on this for a living, god speed, because I
don't know. I don't know how anybody does it this year.
None of it makes sense. None of it adds up.
Like I don't know what the numbers are now, but
I know the the the totals on a lot of
these games. The under was hitting at a historic clip
earlier in the year. But it just feels like you're
go into each week and and they're they're trying to
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bait you into taking line here, like okay, take this one,
take that one. Like Baltimore, I thought, Okay, they got
to know something. It's a rivalry game, and they're a
six point favorite again for the second week in a row.
They blew out Seattle last week, this is going to
be an opportunity for them to do it again. And
then that happened. And then on the Seattle subject, they
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had no business winning against Washington based on how that
game went. I was hoping they were going to lose
at one point because I can't figure out if Seattle's
even a good team or not. They were a six
point favorite, and then Washington and Sam Howell's just dealing
down the stretch and they end up surviving on a
field goal. Like, none of it makes sense. So thoughts
and prayers to degenerate gamblers out there, and who knows,
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maybe that's Calvin Ridley's problem too.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Can I ask this question?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
So after we have Monday Night football tonight, we can
do a preview some point later on. But so I
have to do my picks each week against Pete Prisco,
and I'm up on him on the year by like
four picks.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I'm over five hundred. He's still sub five hundred.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah, screw you, Pete.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
So we do a best bet, and his best bet
happens to also be.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
The same Monday night football game, so he's he's laying
the points with the Bills tonight. Now the issue is
we're both on the same side, but we count our
best bet as a separate second bet. So he's got
two bets still open and I only have one, even
though obviously the two will cance each other ou because
we're on the same side, but he still gets that
best bet to then even out the week, I should
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probably root for the Broncos in this case, right, like
like like even though it would it would be a
loss for me, it'd be a greater loss for him.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Right, I mean, how COMPULLI very competitive?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yes, yes, Like it's been I think maybe three weeks
since Pete has been in Picks, and so it's a
been tight. But like it's always fun to just kind
of turn the knife a little more.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, that's how this works. It's like what bar is
doing to us each week Picks.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
No, No, it's just hard to keep track of because
Lee has no idea how to time that I have to.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Lee. I don't know. I just you know, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
It would have been like it had been like, no, LeVar,
that's when you were being passive aggressive, and you'd be like, no, Lee,
that's Jonas, Like Levar's never passive aggressive.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
He did pull it out though, whoa positive.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
I mean, he did pull the audio up, so he
you know, he proved himself last week that he had
an era. But I just an error, and I you know,
the the interesting thing about that is is that how
how how did you have that so conveniently placed but
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yet conveniently mess it up?
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I was confused.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I want to see the look on Lee's face when
he listened back to it, because again, there's times I
just I really enjoyed Lee as a human being and
his overall reactions to anything. So I'd be curious to
see if he was like, oh, huh, yeah, he didn't
say that. You know, Lee, what if I ever said that?
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Well?
Speaker 8 (14:01):
No, yeah, I realized it as I as I read it,
I was like, well, that doesn't sound right.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Oops, Like you said we were having a great time.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
So yeah you were, Lee. How was your weekend? Did
you have some good bets out there or anything? Uh?
Speaker 7 (14:14):
No, good bets.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
I'm still addicted to kind of figuring out this horse
betting thing I got.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
I'm having fun with that.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Are you still is that still got his claws sunk in?
Speaker 8 (14:24):
I'm like watching a horse racism? But I you know,
I had an open bar wedding this weekend.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
That was fun.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
Oh wow, invited at the last second, so I'm like, hell, yeah,
let's go.
Speaker 6 (14:36):
I had an open bar weekend after our game too.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Did how that how'd that radio call go? Because I
felt like, you're not going to get turned up when
I when I saw you.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
It was as difficult a job to do, maybe ever
for me because I had to remain neutral, right, I
had to be very very subjective and and what it
is that I was doing, and it was hard to
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maintain a neutral feeling.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
It was hard to be.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
An analyst of a team that you love so much,
but I did, and you know, the things that I
talked about it was just, you know, it was it
was just another.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Poor showing from our offense. I mean, the defense.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
We have a championship caliber defense and it's just sad
that it it got overshadowed by poor play on offense.
And I had to say I had to say things
like that, and it was it was tough.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
It was tough to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, listen, you're you're a good man for it. Let's
say a difficult task.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
And uh, I'll say this pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
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Speaker 5 (18:33):
Ooh, so it's gone down.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't see how the hell anybody else is even
in the conversation for comeback Player of the Year with
what this guy has done. And the Minnesota Vikings are back.
Bravo to the organization. Somehow they've done it. I don't
know how, but somehow they've done it even without Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The Minnesota Vikings another win yesterday, got a little dicey
towards the end, but Josh Dobbs completely outplayed the Derek
Carr in that game and it wasn't even close.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They say car on Jamis Winston, which, by the way,
when Winston came in, Winston looks like maybe they should
let Winston just be the quarterback the rest of the season.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I'll I'll leave it. Yeah he was.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
He helped give them at least a shot in in
that game. But I look at it this way. This
team now is on a five game winning streak and
you you mentioned it. No Justin Jefferson, no Kirk Cousins.
Who it's funny we bring up the MVP race. If
kirk Cousins had remained healthy, he was on track to
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be in that conversation for the MVP. He was playing phenomenal.
And then also cam Akers like you kind of forget
like he's out for the season as well, you know,
they traded for him. I thought he was adding a
nice impact in the backfield. But this is a team
that I think you have to give Kevin O'Connell and
his staff in that locker room a ton of credit
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for the way they've been able to endure persevere through
as about as much adversity as a team would be
able to face in the course of a season.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
It's fun to watch Man and I come away every time.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Josh Thobbs must be sneaky fast because no one ever
gets an angle on him, Like as soon as he
breaks containing in the pocket, guys try to like run
down hill at him, he just runs around him.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
And I'm like, dude, is this just a deceptively long
strides Like I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
But it doesn't seem like anyone ever gets an angle
on every single game he's taken off and running for
a touchdown, first down, doing something it's it's fun.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
To watch though. What he's doing is the best story
to me in the NFL this season. How about I mean,
do you give any credit to the Vikings defense?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
I mean they've been much improved improved. Brian Flores is
done a great job with them as well.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Yes, that's I think he's been really aggressive. I think
it's it's definitely a second a second story to looking
at what's going on.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
With Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
But you definitely have to be excited if you're a
Minnesota fan that Josh Dobbs is able to do the
things that he's able to do for this team. And
you're right, I mean, he does look like he's kind
of slippery, almost like Lamar Jackson esque, you know, with
with how he moves around, but his confidence seems to
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be super high, and it just it makes you wonder, like,
how how much of a factor or how much of
of of a team can the Vikings be moving forward?
They kind of look like, I mean, what they're at
six wins now, are they? I mean are they a
wild card team. I mean, I don't think they're going
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to win the North over over the lines. I think
the Lions are are going to walk away with it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But they They've still got two matchups with Detroit, so
this could really play out the final three weeks.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Of the year.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
They're not going to beat Detroit twice though, Okay, they're
not going to beat them twice.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Not putting anything fast them.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I don't know, man, I don't. I don't see them
beating Detroit twice unless something were to happen to somebody
that's of importance to to Detroit. Now, like we said,
I mean, Justin Jefferson will be back at some point.
I'm assuming it's cam Akers down for the year. Yeah,
he's out for the Yeah, he's out for the year.
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I mean, obviously, if you get your best receiver back,
that that should be you know, that should make them
a little bit more better than what they have been.
But I don't see them being I don't I don't
see them winning the North.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You think they can win to North Jonas, I think
it's a possibility.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Yeah, I mean, look, they're still in it.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
There's still very much I mean, I said at the
beginning of the year when I got a chance to
call their game is as bad as their start was?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
What oh and three? And was it won in one
and four?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I think at one point, yeah, they they still had
only played one visual game. And that's why those divisional
games are so meaningful. It still keeps, you know, teams
in the hunt. And again, this has just been a
team that's been able to fight through adversity, kind of
take a one week at a time, one game at
a time, and uh, it's it's been fun to fun
to watch like they are to me one of the
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more fun teams to see, Like who's gonna step up,
Who's gonna make plays for us this week? Because even
I mean this pass game, they didn't have kJ Osbourne,
you know, he was out for that matchup, so it
was more of just Addison and Hockinson and Brandon Palace
steps up and ty Chandler and just the different pieces
and players on that team. They are the true essence
of like a team, the way they've been able to
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kind of piece it all together to make it all work.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And just from a story standpoint, if you're looking for
interesting in the playoffs, there's no more interesting story than
this one, like if they are a wild card team,
if they win the division, like based on what we've
got in the NFC, Like the NFC feels very top heavy,
like you know who the top teams are, and then
everybody else is kind of okay, Well, we'll see what
we got and if you can get Minnesota in there.
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And just to give Josh Dobbs, after what two weeks
before the season, he's on the Browns, then he gets
to Arizona, he gets them. They're only one of the season,
you know, until Kyler Murray does what he does yesterday.
And then now he's on the Minnesota Vikings too. If
you were to told tell him two weeks before the season,
he's in Cleveland getting ready to back up to Sean Watson.
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By the way, you're gonna take the Vikings to the playoffs.
Nobody believes that, Nobody buys it. I think it's a
tremendous story, and I'm hoping Minnesota pulls it off. I'm
hoping they get it done because I think it'd be
fun to watch how that thing works and to see
who they match up with in the first round. And
justin Jefferson and Hackinson and those guys. Yeah, come on, there's.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
The alternative is like, who else would you rather see?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I mean, you look at the NFC South right now,
it seems like it's just a muddy picture. Obviously, the
Saints are not what they thought we thought they were.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know, the I'm not sure what the make of
the Bucks. You know, those nice wins. Weak. But I
look good, Yeah, I looked good yesterday.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I'm telling you, I'm and I'll say this right now.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And I don't care if if we're not supposed to
do this, because we've got to be professional. I'm rooting
for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to win that division because
New Orleans stinks. I'm tired of not being able to
figure out New Orleans either. I'm tired of not being
able to figure out.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Why they're the most frustrating team. I don't get it
their rosters.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
The Chargers are the most frustrating to me. I don't
get them. They're they're okay. So there those are our
top two teams in each conference. It's fair to say, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, Saints and Chargers.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yes, yeah, like the most frustrating teams in the NFL.
That and I do wonder like not that maybe the
Saints would move on from Dennis Allen. But I look
at the Brandon Stalley situation and the way that game
worked out yesterday and just think, I wonder if the
owners just going, you know what, we can't put our
finger on what exactly it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Is, so let's just get another coach. You know.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
It's like someone's gonna tape the let's just move on
from our head coach. I really do feel like there's
some ownership groups that that's what happens with this, I mean,
and that's the position that they're probably in half for
the season.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
He's a defensive coach, and they couldn't stop the Lions,
Like it was almost like the Chargers just were always
one possession behind.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Den Johnson. Dude, he's putting on a clinic.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
He'll get hired. Really, he'll get hired, right.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
I don't think there's any doubt. I don't think there's
any doubt about that.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
He's he's been one of the best offensive minds, and
I think he just probably wants the right opportunity because
he knows what he's got in Detroit has been probably
a ton of fun, you know, based on how well
they've been able to play together.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
I like Detroit.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I know, I know Minnesota is a great story, but
I like Detroit. I mean, they they didn't do well
the week before, but looking at them and how they
do things, I mean, I'm I think I'm a fan
of Detroit.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I'm a believer in Detroit.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah, and there's a lot of like you guys said,
there's a lot of parody, you know that's going on
in the National Football League, and you know, you're you're
seeing teams that maybe shouldn't lose, you know, lose games,
teams that probably shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Win games win games.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I mean I looked at that that Dallas game yesterday
and was like, I was kind of confused, Like, I know,
I know New York is bad, but you would anticipate
that they would have played them much harder than what
they did. And I think it's more so because of
Dallas less because of the Giants. I don't know. I
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don't want to like the Dallas Cowboys, I really don't.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
But you know that game was was never really even close,
even when the scoreboard looked.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Like it was close.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
It was funny about that too, is Dak throws that
early pick and I'm thinking oh man. I mean, look,
h yeah, the Giants aren't going to win this game.
But you know the seventeen points spread, I mean that
could be a fact there here. It's literally over before
halftime and with with nothing to worry about, do what
you gotta do. Like Dallas alone scored over the total
(28:10):
for the game. Like that is how bad the Giants are.
They are so bad. And I don't know that anybody
there is maybe going to lose their job, but I
would I would venture to guess that there's got to
be some conversations after the year to where they're like, hey, dude,
like you were coach of the Year a year ago,
what happened? No?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I mean they're they're pretty banged up, and when you're
down to your third string quarterback, it's it's not gonna
look pretty. I think that the interesting things morgan to
be what happens with Daniel Jones because he's torn as
acl That recovery now is about a twelve month process,
maybe a little less for a quarterback. You know, I
don't know the exact timeline of Kyler Murray, and he
obviously looked great and almost back to one hundred percent
(28:52):
that the play he made down the stretch was awesome nominal.
I mean, like, if you had any doubts about his recovery,
you're like, yeah, I guess he's fine. That not many
guys can reverse field like that, run back twenty yards,
then run four another thirty for the first down. But
your concern is how fast would you be able to
come back? They've got him under contract really for you know,
(29:13):
definitely the following season, so next year where you can't
really move on without taking a big hit, but you
could be in position to take a top quarterback in
next year's draft. So how do you go about managing that?
Do you wait another year or do you say, well,
we're in you know, close proximity, let's just go take
that guy now. And maybe Daniel Jones is in there
(29:34):
for a few games, or depending on how he plays,
maybe longer than that. But we don't know his recovery,
so who knows how that's going to go, or maybe
they just start the rookie and Daniel Jones is an
expensive insurance policy. But that's what the Giants are facing
right now, is the very real potential of being in
this running for the Caleb Williams, Drake May sweepstakes or
whoever that third quarterback is, which would be interesting to
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see how they go about evaluating that. Like Jayden Daniels
for LSU, the things he's done the past, you know,
five six games, he might be throwing his hat in
the ring for that third quarterback in this year's draft.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out.
We've also got the Giants who right now, as it stands,
are projected to pick second in the draft. They would
pick right now second in the draft, so it could
be a conversation that they could have.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I mean, right now, if it's if it's either Caleb
Williams or Drake May, you'd have to pull.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
Trigger right have to.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You got to, You got to make the move.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Did you see Drake May this weekend?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
By the way, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
I didn't see him.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Well, dude, go back and watch the highlights from that game.
If you get a chance that dude has been carrying
his team to get wins and make plays, it is.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
He's He's fun to watch too.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Like we get to see Caleb Williams in primetime a
bit more because he's the Ranney Heisman Trophy winner but
Drake May. When when people are like, hey, these are
the top two quarterbacks, then it's kind of like the
next group that's real. There's there's good separation between him
and Drake May can make some throws and that make
some plays too.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So coming up next here, we are going to discuss
the potential of something happening in the NFL that none
of you thought was even possible, including us.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
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Speaker 3 (31:14):
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Speaker 2 (31:25):
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Speaker 1 (31:31):
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Speaker 2 (31:33):
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Speaker 1 (31:43):
Over the weekend.
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Speaker 3 (32:03):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing. The guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer, Lee.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Lap Good Morning, everybody, Morning Jones, Morning Brady, Morning Love.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Baring guys, in case you missed it.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
During Sunday Night Football last night, Melissa Stark reported that
she had talked to Aaron Rodgers and he revealed that
his goal is to return in mid December.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
How about that mid December?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Mid December and he away, So he tours Achilles in
early September and he's going to be back in a month.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It's incredible, man, I mean, science, modern technology, the way
these things appen.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Hay Lee, everybody.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Pretty incredible to think though.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Uh I was thinking about this as well too.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
We were talking about this last week, Brady, tell me
if you think I'm nuts, because you know Rogers loose here. Okay,
But in this sense, I think there's two reasons why
he would want to come back. One would be at
the chance to make the playoffs, which after last night
probably not. But the other would be just to prove
(33:23):
people wrong because he's heard so much about his methods,
his his pathway to get healthy and whether it's you know,
the immunized crap or him you know, crawling underground and
doing whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Like I think part of this. I think part of this.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Is him wanting to show everybody, listen, I got my
own methods. You guys have run your mouth and laughed
at me for a couple of years. Now look at this.
I ruptured my achilles in September and I'm playing before Christmas.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Like, I think that's part of his motivation as well, too.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I mean, like, I think any player who's a competitor
once to get back out there in the field as
soon as possible. A lot went into this team, A
lot went into you know, him being there and the
off season, the hype around it. I'm sure there's just
a desire to like, hey man, I want to get.
I want to start playing for this team. But maybe
this is a this is foreshadow of what we can
be in twenty twenty four. Create some excitement. But yeah,
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maybe maybe they proved some doubter is wrong.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
Guys, more from this game. In case you missed it,
Antonio Pierce was rolling up to the game in a
video that went viral. It is sixty four Chevy and
Paula Candy Apple red, not cherry red, but candy Apple red.
Sixty four Chevy and Paula. I know you guys might
have missed it, but I think LeVar has actually seen
this one before.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Yeah, I've actually seen it in person.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
We were at one point we were in competition on
getting the fly is you know, old school car you know,
so I'm very familiar with his his red. His it
was it's not candy app What type of red is it?
Speaker 7 (35:00):
They say, Candy Apple red.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I don't know that it's candy Apple, man, I don't
know that that's candy Apple. But it's definitely red, definitely red.
And his rims, you know, his spinners, his Dayton's are red,
like the insides of them are red too. So it's
a pretty it's a pretty sweet car cherry.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Pretty sweet. Yeah, man, I guess it's a don't don't.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
It just doesn't hit me as a cherry red. But
I guess maybe it is. I don't know cherry cherry,
just it's more red, you know what I mean, like
cherry red or candy apple red. It seems like sounds
a little darker to me, you know, like on more
darker cherry side. His is more of a like a
red red.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yes, prefer dark cherries or like regular cherries if the
lighter color ones.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
I like the darker cherries. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Do they make seedless cherries. That'd be great if they did,
because that's the problem. You bite into a cherry and
there's a seed in the middle of it next to you.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I know Lee loves darker cherries too.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
That is that is confirmed?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
That's true. Yeah, yeah, I love dark cherries.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
We've seen his algorithm. Definitely.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
What are the.
Speaker 8 (36:15):
What are the cherries that they put in uh like
drinks that you're like, don't they say you're not supposed
to eat those?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Ah the bar? Yeah, really they're sitting out for.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
People eat those all the time. But I think it's
for what Jonah said.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
I think it's something about the chemicals that they're that
they sit in.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
They're not supposed to be eating those. I mean they're basically.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
It's kind of like barnuts. You know about barnuts. Yeah,
barnuts man very very dirty.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
By the way, did covid ruin barnuts?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Oh yeah, those are coming back. I mean at least
like communal barnuts. You know where everyone's putting their hands in.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You know what place has great bar nuts, And I
hope we can get out there one time to lodge
the logit Tory pines.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
They've got like you roll up there and they hand.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You like this this little bowl and they pour them
out for you, and it's just it's tremendous. And they've
got like it's like almost like the uh, the trail
mix minus the raisins and the M and m's and
that crap.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
It's like the good stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
There's like nothing better than like a salty snack like
that with a beer, you know, like something Yeah that
works out.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Well, well that's you got to get on an airplane
for those. Get your bar nuts. They even warm them
up for you.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
On the airplane. They warm up your nuts.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Oh yeah, they do.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
They warm them nuts warm them up real good, make
them nice and crunchy, damn and warm.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
So so the the dye is called red forty in
these Uh oh?
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Is that the same thing in like mountain dew?
Speaker 8 (37:41):
I don't know about the mountain dew, but this is
what I was thinking about, is that they have small
amounts of benzitine, which is a carcinogen.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
What but do that?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
But I'm not gonna but you know what, screw? Can
I get two of those? Of my Shirtley Temple? You
know I want you know, I'm not drinking today. I
want to be a little healthier.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Okay, what else we got?
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Anyone ever tie it up for that? You ever see
anybody tie it up with?
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Which I tell him, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, all right, moving home alone?
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Yeah, exactly, guys.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
In case you missed it, New Orleans Saints wide receiver
Michael Thomas was arrested for a violent altercation that involved
brick throwing with a construction worker who was working on
a house in his neighborhood.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Got in a yelling match and that led to brick throwing.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
He was later that's old school, that's that's late eighties,
early nineties.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Attup a brick out of the guy's pile and threw
it at his windshield.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Bricking they call it bricking day Got bricked.