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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Wednesday edition, we're gonna get an understanding
as to why the Carolina Panthers did what they did
in the draft and with their head coach Frank Reich
or former head coach. You'll hear from the owner, David Tepper.
We're also going to get an update on the Minnesota
Vikings because apparently everything that happened on Monday Night football
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is Josh Dobbs's fault. We'll explain it's an end of
an era in the NBA when it comes to Mark
Cuban and the Dallas Mavericks. We're also gonna have a
fun conversation about the Big Ten Championship game. Some of
us are trying to be a little bit more positive
than others. Plus, we're gonna have our midweek awards, the
Old p Petros, Popadaka stops by, and we got the
BQ News. It's all yours coming up next here, Two
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Speaker 1 (02:13):
I know, I forgot to email Lee back full disclosure.
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It's my fault. Yeah, I was gonna say I actually
I heard that song. I was like, oh, Jonash's song
sounds like just like his other ones. Yeah, absolute trash awesome.
You couldn't for the difference, No, because they all saw
the exact same. I think it was a little truth
in the day.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I mean, I think I'm gonna roll with a banger
from the mid nineties, Like That's what I'm gonna do here.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And it doesn't matter, man, I'm going to try to
reach out to video and be like, hey, do you
think there's a chance I could just take Jonaph's spot? Damn,
It's just it's such bad music, man, Listen.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm not going to sit here and be judged about.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
My Why is Jonas's song the first song to go
every day? I don't want it to be, you know why,
because it's his show.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I'll just be telling people they don't get this, you know,
Jonas knox Is Kaiser, so say, I mean, it's just
he's verbal kit to everyone out there, but when you
get down to the brass.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Tacks there, you go, yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So I got a limp.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I mean, well, you know, you played a game the
right way to make sure everybody thinks that you're this passive,
aggressive little dude.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
You know, right right, I hear you, man, But you're
like the dude. It's all that's right, That's right.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
That's all part of the plan. I mean, it's probably
a better plan than what David Tepper has in Carolina.
That's your ship, because man. He had a fun little
press conference yesterday following the firing of Frank Reich, which
we talked about on the show yesterday as well too,
and well, I mean listen, he explained, Look, they were
falling short in all aspects, that's why they needed to
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move on from Frank Reich. But he also was asked
about some reports that Frank Reich actually wanted c J.
Stroud with the number one pick, and David Tepper responded
to that and explain just what the process was like
and deciding on their young quarterback Bryce Young. No pun
intended over c J. Stroud. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Originally we were.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Going to go to the number two picked him, and
we thought we would get CJ. Because we thought the
Texans were going to pick Bryce, and listen, we preferred Bryce.
He was our number one pick. We had a lot
of conviction. But in answer to your questions, it's just
not the way the process was done. The process was
done the way the process was done. And again, even
though if there was a process with five people in
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the room and the way the votes came in, it
was Frank was the first choice, I always could veto
that choice. And even if it was Bryce and the
votes came in unanimously, in this particular case, I could
have vetoed that choice. I'm just going to say that
I supported both choices. I supported the coaches, I supported
the scouts, their unanimous opinion supported Frank Reich. So whatever's good, bad,
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are and different is ultimately because the buck stops here,
and I take full responsibility for everything. But that's the
way the process runs. As far as Bryce Young is concerned,
we are totally confident in that pick. Okay, I think
the people that made that pick first, you know, would
be totally confident in that and and for me, I'm
totally confident in Green with that pick.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Well, I'm not totally so unrelatable. I'm not totally.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Confident in the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
After hearing more, wait so old on the south of LeVar.
Why do you say that? I mean because you heard
it too. I just he's just unrelatable. I mean you're listening.
I'm listening to him, and my ears are bleeding, like
they just started to bleed, like like, patch him up.
I don't want to hear it. It sounds disingenuous. It
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sounds pompous, It sounds arrogant, it sounds, uh, dismissive, and
it almost has a sense of air like maybe Billions
has got me messed up, man, because no, I'm listening
to him and he sounds like Prince, you know.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
He sounds like he sounds like Prince, you know. And
and I'm just sitting here listening and it's like, you're
so disingenuous, dude, Like I have the right to veto Like, bro,
we know you're the owner.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
You're the owner. Yeah, we all know what.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You have, the powers, we see everything, you know, God,
you take it, you take it.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I mean, I would handle this very similar to if
I was an attorney. If I was an attorney, I
would handle it probably in this manner. One of the
first things you do when I guess if you know
it depends on which side you're on. But if you're
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deposing someone or you got someone on the standard, what
you're trying to do is take away their credibility if
they're working against you. So in this instance, I think
how you'd take away David Tepper's credibility is why should
we believe that he has to say he just fired
the past two head coaches, and he probably said a
lot of things that he said he meant back then
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to Matt Ruhle, who didn't even make it three full years,
and to Frank Reich, he didn't even make it a
full year. So like, let's just start there, Like why
would we take anything he says about the process with
any truth whatsoever? And on top of that, what else
is he gonna say in regards to the decision, whether
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it actually was Bryce showing or not. It's not like
David Tepper owes us to be honest, and it's not
like he's going to be honest if it was CJ. Stroud,
because how's that gonna look? Hey, we just fired our
head coach. But the reality is we actually wanted the
other guy. But you know, our former head coach wanted
this guy and that's why. You know, it's just it's
a whole mess right now. Let me be honest with
you guys. I mean, it's like, what are you gonna say?
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So I sit back and just think, Yeah, we could
play the sound. I just there's not gonna be any
validity to it because only the people who are in
that room truly know how it went and who was
in on it. I go back to do you remember
last year when the Pro Days were happening. Do you
remember there was some sound when Josh McCown like had
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said something to CJ. Stroud like you know, we're gonna
this or we're gonna that, And it sounded like Josh
McCown really wanted to, you know, go with them. Yeah,
do you remember that?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And the betting odds swung They swung.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Huge, and that was like somewhere in the ballpark of
the combat all that, right, Yeah, And then it took
it till like almost right before the draft, where they
swung back the other way. That was an eye opener
for me, thinking, Huh, I wonder if there's a disconnect
here between the front office and the coaching staff, between
the coaching staff and the owner, between the owner and
everyone else. I mean, this is the first time happened
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to Washington when the now Commanders draft at RG three,
which seemed like it was the owner's pick. Shanah Hans
apparently wanted Kirk Cousins having got drafted the same year.
Like you can go down the line on some different scenarios.
Usually this stuff, you know, ends up working itself out,
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but I don't know in this case, man, It's just
I don't know why you believe anything. David Tepper would.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Say the biggest mistake they made was including DJ Moore
in this trade. That's the biggest mistake they made. Guys
got seventy catches in over one thousand yards and not
exactly the most fluid offense in the NFL where you've
had a starting quarterback get injured. He was catching passes
from Tyson Bagent for a handful of games. You mean
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to tell me that if you were to pull Frank
Reich aside and said, hey, Frank, you know, if you
could do it all over again, would you have preferred
to keep DJ Moore and maybe include another draft pick?
The answer would be yes. They don't have anything around
Bryce Young And I think that was the biggest whiff
of all this is that they included a legitimate Pro
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Bowl weapon that would have been a really nice compliment
to a young quarterback who needs all the help he
can get, and instead they added that piece.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
In That sounds great, but you could have just added
another receiver to it that caliber. I mean, let's be honest.
You could have done it before the trade deadline. You
could done it in a free agency. I mean they
signed a bunch of guys too, so like, I know
what you're saying, it sounds good, but like they could
have replaced Stephen dj Moore with finding someone similar to
DJ Moore. So I just I don't know. I mean,
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that wasn't the biggest mistake that they paid all this.
I mean it was a mistake or part of it
because they didn't replace him with someone who was his caliber. Like, yes,
you brought in Thelid theland has been great for them, Yeah,
but they didn't replace them with someone who could be
a number one who could you know, threaten to feel
deep and all that which they could have went out
and looked for other you know, guys are the players.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It's a mess.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I feel bad for Brece Young, Like I come away
less confident that that he's going to have a real
opportunity there to succeed based on whatever the hell you
call that yesterday and just the Frank Reich's got to go.
H you know, I Buck stops here, so on and
so forth, and I just wonder is this and we
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were talking about it yesterday. Of course somebody is going
to take the job, But I mean, how attractive is
this of a job now to where if you're a
coach and you've got options out there, It's like, man,
do I really want to go somewhere where this guy's
this impulsive like that, I'm gonna have options.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
You're you're definitely going to weigh out the options. Yeah,
I mean, I'll put it this way.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I still take it to throw my name out there,
to put my name of the hat in the ring.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Oh can I go?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah? Sure, I mean, Frank, we'll get you out there.
You will be a coach, You'll be there somewhere. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
LaVar will be called the defense will be great. Oh geez,
that's fine, the radio before you know it.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
The old arts bast. At least we'll get a nice payouts.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Do you think Ben Johnson should take this job if offered.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean, look, it all comes down to money, right, yeah, LaVar,
If he offered you fifteen million or more per year,
it's gonna be hard for you to be like, yeah,
I'm gonna go ahead and take.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
That, especially if you may not have that opportunity somewhere else.
It's just it just comes down, like you said, Jonas,
if you have options, then you you weigh out the
opportunities that are presented to you through those options. If
you really want to be a head coach, chances are
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you're going to have to take over a team that
isn't good. You know why you're going to take over
a team that isn't good because the team that isn't
good just fired their coach and now there's a coach
in vacancy. You're not going to generally have a great
opportunity to take over as a coach in the National
Football League of a really, really fine team that's just
(13:05):
a Mike Tomlin. That's that's timing that's timing. You know,
you get to take over the Steelers after Bill Cower.
You didn't get rid of Bill Cower because Bill Cower
couldn't coach and this was a horrible team. You got Bill.
You know, it was time. It was just it was
a transitional time. So when you take over a really,
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really good franchise, that's going to be so far and
few in between, you know. And so to me, if
you're getting the opportunity to take over a team as
a head coach, yes, you entertain it, and if you
get the opportunity to take it, I would assume more
more guys than not would take the opportunity, even though
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you know you only get a limited amount of times
to mess up being a head coach in the national.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Football I mean, there were some stuff out there that
Greg Olsen was interested.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I saw that in that article. I saw that there.
I thought that was interesting. You got I mean, how
you guys think he would do? I mean, greg Olsen
would be able to go in there. Whoever goes in
there has to tell this owner to shut the f up,
like and go sit in the corner and be an owner,
Like it's okay for you to be the owner and
not be Jerry Jones. Everybody's not going to be Jerry Jones.
(14:20):
I'm sorry if you're trying. Like if you thought in
your mind you did that interview and you walked away
and you looked in the mirror after you were done,
you were like, yeah, take that, Jerry, you you were
grossly mistaking. Jerry Jones is one of the most brilliant
men in terms of how he handles himself and how
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he handles the media. Whether knowingly at all times or not,
doesn't really matter. He has been a brilliant dude and
how he does things in the media.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Everybody be able to do that. Here's the thing about
David Tepper that I think you have to know and
understand to I think maybe get a sense for why
he's turned over Matt rules so quickly and Frank right
so quickly. It's his background, Like you have to look
at you know, for example, he worked at Goldman Sachs
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as a credit analyst, and what he was responsible for was,
you know, basically bankruptcys and special situations and so in
that what a lot of times what happens is, you know,
you're trying to trying to fix an issue right, like
something's already been burnt to the ground, like a business
has gone defunct, it's bankrupt, they don't have any money.
(15:38):
Or there's other special situations or workouts as you call them. Right,
you've got a loan or something's going on, someone's not
able to pay it, and you're gonna try to structure
it to fix it, or you just you know, take
it over, or take over that company, build that company
back up, sell it off. Right. You know, that was
his background, and he's he's been a fixer in that
(15:59):
sense in the financial world. And I think he looks
at his intelligence, his experience and says, if I was
able to do that at Goldman Sachs and APPLELUSA Management
and be one of the titans in the finance world,
and oh, by the way, I bought a minority Steak
and the Steelers, and I've seen how that family organization
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has run it. I can do this in the NFL,
like I can fix this. I can look at the numbers,
I can look at the data and the analytics, and
I can fix this. And I can turn it over
and over and over. Then I'll keep turning over until
we find the right guy, and I'll just do it fast.
Like the problem with that is, like you forget it
is a people person business. Like what I hate about
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that is, in no way, shape or form, does that
really care about the development of the people who are
in that building, in particular a young quarterback. And so
my concern is more of his perspective and background. Does
a really jel or met with what it takes to
be successful in football? We know it helps make money,
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we know it helps other companies in various industries, but
does it actually help a football team grow and succeed
and achieve and understand how that works in that sort
of environment. I don't know. I mean, again, I don't
I like bet against smart people, but there's a lot
of smart owners who own football franchise in the NFL
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that aren't competitive each year, and instead they're just trying
to run a business and they're just trying to make
a profit. Now no one's to tell you that, but
there's only probably about ten or twelve like every year
they can kind of bank on. And that's just the
reality of it. So I just I think it's as
background as much as anything has led to how he's
handled this.
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Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up twenty minutes from now from the tire Rack dot
Com Studios. We've got ourselves a surprising change in the
world of sports that came out yesterday. We will get
into the details on that for you again twenty minutes
from now here on FSR. But there could be a
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surprising change in Minnesota and our friends listening on the
Allahan of the Twin Cities. That would be the yallow Horn. Rather,
why I say, Yallahan, what the hell's wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I thought you were going to talk about the nd
season tournament? Were not going to talk about that this morning?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Oh god, no, I don't have my unicycle. You know
that big doubledare fest. The NBA rolls out with a
bunch of goofy courts and goes, hey, look at us, look.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
At this cool differently. It's not the same. It's not
the regular season. It's different. Have you seen the courts
didn't look anything.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It's just so good.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You create something that made it look different. It just
had to hit differently to make you feel like there's
something that's steakcare. Having a different place, a different environment.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Having some good basketball. I heard that works. Jesus Christ
like it's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Look at this. We get.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Hey, we redesigned our menu. You have the food still
so that I don't worry.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
About gentlemen, how are you scorning?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I got a ten nine after three? Damn bye okay, Jid.
But the situation in Minnesota is this. Josh Dobbs just
got there like an hour and a half ago, and
apparently his job is already in jeopardy because the Vikings
reportedly are going to spend the bye week deciding on
which quarterback is going to be the best. I guess
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pastor of the football to one Justin Jefferson that will
know how to utilize him the best. This was Kevin
O'Connell yesterday discussing the plan at QB with returning Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Anytime you can infuse the best receiver in football back
into your offense, there's going to be ways to not
only get Justin going and make sure he has a critical,
critical impact. And the quarterback position absolutely plays into that.
Justin depending on the type of coverage that we're playing against,
having the ability to clearly win one on ones, understands
(21:51):
how to win versus double teams, where double teams are
coming from, how those double teams may open up some
windows and matchups for some of the other guys on
our offense. We're going to make sure that you know,
whoever's playing quarterback is aware and understands the intent behind
plays where either Justin is the primary or based upon
coverage based upon the defensive look, you know how to
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quickly and efficiently get to the right place to go
with the football.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And NFL is a cold world.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Uh well, that's not really complicated, right, you know, like
it was a whole lot, a whole lot of Yeah,
we're just getting the ball to Justin Jefferson. We want
to have the guy they could do it the best. Yeah, right,
could simplify. Here's why you have to complicate it because
you want to seem like it's complex and you want
to see him like, well, hey, you know, we want
to go with this guy because he's been here and
he knows the system, and you know, it's a complex
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thing when you have to get the ball in Justin
Jefferson and you guys like the reality is they traded
for Nick Mollins. If he's healthy and ready to go,
they probably feel better about his ability throwing the football,
even though I'd argue, like, I don't know how you
can watch what Josh Dobbs has done and not say, yeah,
I mean we should consider him too, even though he
(23:01):
just got here. He's smart, he's been able to lose
use multiple systems. I look, I know the Bears game
looked bad. How many of those those four interceptions were
tipped three three of them and then the other one
go through Edison's hands.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Ah, god, it might have I forget.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
The first one. Addison should have caught it. Yeah, like
he should have caught it. Like they were saying that
he might have been early, you know, Dobbs might have
been early.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
No, that is the NFL perfect. He should have caught it.
So three of the four were for sure tipped, which
at that point, like as a quarterback, like, what do
you want to do if the ball gets tipped at
the light of script, It's like, oh gosh, that guy,
this get him out of there. It's okay, Well is
it his fault? Like he throws in and it hits
a wide receiver perfectly. It's volleyball set up, like LaVar
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gets to watch with his daughter on the weekends, Like
he's watched all these nice bumps and sets, like that's
what it looked like on Monday night. I'm just like,
what do you want him to do outside of that?
You know, you guys, damn near one in Denver it
was a tight game, played well, and you want it
in Atlanta, New Orleans and he played well, Like I
think the interesting thing about this move is if they
do move away from Dobbs. I'll be curious to see
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if it's Mullen's or Jared Hall if either of them
can use their legs well enough like he has, which
has saved them in some instances in the game, whether
Justin Jefferson comes back or not. But I could promise
you this all right. Kevin O'Connell's one of the best
play callers in the NFL. Probably doesn't always get the
credit for it, but if you knew the importance that
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he puts on Justin Jefferson, and granted he should, Justin
Jefferson is one of the best players in the league,
but importance in the sense of how every single team
plays them and then how that impacts his play calling
and that impacts their game planning each week. If you
could understand that from that perspective, you then would understand
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and say, well, he wants a guy to come in
and run the place how he thinks they're supposed to
would be run. Like when you're a great play caller,
what sometimes probably gets frustrating is like, hey, the play
was there. If the guy doesn't see it, he takes off,
he runs, gets the first down, and everyone's clapping, But
He's like, Ah, could have thrown for a twenty yard
you know, game instead of we got a first down.
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But you, like you time and time watch that again
on film, but you finally just go, all right, we
just we need to make a change here because we're
leaving some opportunities. We're leaving some yards out there on
the field. I mean, that's an essence. If they make
the switch, what they're gonna point to and say, And
it's fine. If that's the case, they win games. But
this is a team that's still in the playoff hunt,
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and I think this is a critical decision for what
happens for this team moving forward, whether or not they
can remain in the playoff hunt or if they fall
off and become a team that is just looking towards
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
What would you guys do, because I'd go with Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Let me ask you guys this, and that's a good question, Jonas,
and I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you what my answer is,
but I want to I want to ask you guys
this before we answer that. Do you feel like this
is a pressure cooker for your coach? Do you feel
like the coach is responding because it's a pressure cooker.
I mean, if you're not going well, when you get
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your best receiver back, does this mean that your your
push is not getting pushed, but it's heating up.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
No.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I think what the job he's done has been pretty
commendable considering Look, I mean, yeah, they did start off poorly,
but you know, without Justin Jefferson and Kirk Cousins, you know,
they were they were what five and two or whatever
it was, Like he's they've they've gotten themselves back into
playoff contention. So I feel like he's done a pretty
good job.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
By the way, like last year they were what eleven
to zero and one score games or something like that. Yeah,
they're five and five this year, Like that's more of
the average, like not, I mean, we've never seen that
in the NFL. Last year, we've never seen what they
were able to do to get the thirteen wins, and
everyone knew they referred back to that average at some point,
and so now we're here and to Jonas's point, like
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they've overcome so much with the injuries where you had
you're literally your best receiver or the best receiver one
of them, top two if you would have. Don't think
he's won, you know it, gets injured for a good
portion of the season. Cousins is playing at an MVP level.
Like literally, Jonas, look up right now, where is Kirk
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Cousins who hasn't played it. I don't know how many weeks?
What five now? Go look up and go look up
and see where he ranks for yards Still, I bet
he's in the top forty five. But my point is, like,
you lost both those guys and you've been five and
two since. It's absurd, like they've done a hell of
a job overcoming adversity. So I don't think there's anyway
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whos in the hot seat. I just think I'm telling you, man,
like some of these play callers, if things aren't being
run exactly how they won, they will try to find
someone who will because they feel like they're that good
of a play caller and they're leaving stuff out there
on the field.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And also, I do find it a little bit comical
that Josh Dobbs is on the hot seat because of
a turnover problem three of which you don't maybe put
totally on him from the other night when this team
was fumbling the football at an alarming rate before he
got there.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Oh, I witnessed that Week three. I was just like,
what the hell is happened?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
So I'm curious how many of those guys also got
benched in favor of somebody else because the turnovers were
such a problem.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Actually, actually, I mean you want to say this direct
relation to it, but when cam' akers stuff didn't work
out in LA where they where to go to Minnesota, Yeah,
and he was with a bunch of those guys and
he was drafted there. And so to that point, like
Maison to having fubble issues, Oh, just SAMs, cam't aker
showed up, he gets injured. Have they been able to
overcome that? Like it's it's really it's been a remarkable
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season for them so far. But were you able to
find the passing leaders in regards to work Cousins still.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Ranks, still efforting?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Are you waiting lead to do this already? Have the answer?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I was looking up the turnover totals in the NFL
because I'm gay to see.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
How Kirk Cousins right now, okay, right now, he's only
played eight games. All right, there's other guys in the league.
You've played twelve eleven. He is top twenty in passing
if you did touchdowns? Mind you all right? Touchdown passes again?
Has it played? Only played eight games? Kirkcuzins is still
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tenth in the league right now. It's nuts like he
was having probably low key one of the better years
and he got no attention for it at all, and
he might have won the MVP if he stayed on
that pace.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Let me ask you a question right now, would you
like the Patriots chances the rest of the season better
with Kirk Cousins injured or healthy Mac Jones?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
What?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I don't understand that that doesn't even make sense. If
Kirkcuzzins is injured, he's not there.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, but like say you just roll ab out there,
put him in shotgun and give him a crutch and
just say, all right, figure it out just from the
shotgun stance and then, or would you rather roll with
Mac Jones completely healthy in New England the rest of them?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
I mean, if I'm being honest, I'm gonna take my
chances with Kirk Huts.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, I think with Lebar in that case, I feel bad.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Saying that insulting.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I'd rather take incomplete than the.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Latter, really, yeah, just incomplete? The just no no completions
to the other team, which would be the problem. Yeah,
I don't. Look, I hope I would like to see
Minnesota make the playoffs with Josh Dobbs a quarterback because
I think it's the appropriate ending to what he's done
so far this year.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, it would be. I want that for him, like
I want him to be rewarded that way.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah, But I mean otherwise he's gonna end up, you know,
making a spaceship or walking on the Moon or Mars
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I mean, I don't have any problems with where Josh
Dobbs will end up landing. I just don't think that
it makes sense to hold him fully accountable for some
of the mishaps that took place in this last game.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
That was what I would say.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, well, Josh Dobbs, like has he spoken about like
like which part of the set that was designed to
fake the moon landing the first time? Like which part?
Like did was he a part of?
Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's what you really you really believe that, Like was.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It the lighting or did he like together like the
fake space background, Like which which part of that?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
So you're one of those dudes that don't believe that
people really have gone.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Into space, just that that's one that likes. I find
myself questioning it. I do. I'm not gonna lie every
time I hear an astronaut talk.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
About being in space. I don't know why. I just
find it hard to believe that you can get out
of the stratosphere and then get back into it.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
You want to get people lit up on social media,
just say that the Earth is flat or that the
moon landing was faked.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Well, that's true. Irving has still not been forgiven forgiven.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
That's your whole goal by saying that, is that what
you're looking to do is get people to just send
me tweets at you so you can retweet them.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I mean, I find it to be a.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Ta big Q wory is that we're not like we
don't get we don't go viral all the time like
we should. It's interesting. I almost feel like we do
too much of a solid show. We're not we're not
provocative enough, and our our clickbait takes for for us
to become like this, this mainstream type of of.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Consumed show, where you know that's's issue with us is
that there's not enough clickbait.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I mean, maybe we need to start doing more clar
I think you're on an island there.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
In my case, man hey, let me uh, let me
let me go to step, let me go step further.
Say this is that the goal? Though? Is that what
people want to go viral? Like, I don't see many
things that go viral. I'm like, oh, that's a good point. Yeah,
that's yeah. It's like it's like, this is divisive. You
gotta pick a side. Oh gosh, what side of my own?
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But that's usually how society is working right now, which
seems like it's more manipulative than anything else. Like I
don't think it's very genuine and it's disingenuous. That's about
entertaining and get.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Like and good for listeners and honest and yeah, and
genuine from like some divisive like this thing that Jonas
wants to go viral with his flat earth or whatever
the hell?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh you just said.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I'm will to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
But is it?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
But is it in theory, is it possible that the
Earth could be flat?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I don't know. I hope be honestly, I don't care,
like just I don't want to fall off a cliff when.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
To be certain, look at this way, LeVar Jonas is
not going anywhere outside of Thousand Oaks. It doesn't really matter.
That is true.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
That's not true. I got to Sherman Oaks every morning.
That's not true.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Well, but the studio changes, right, Brady, But you've been
to Sherman Oaks. When Jonas goes to Sherman Oaks, his
fangs are still out.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
It's it's there's the man who I don't know who.
You're right, I know you're all over that, Douglas. I
was just here to support you. That's why we do
this show. See that. Hold on now, hold on now,
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we're here a little bit of time that had to
have been a memory for you. At some point, something happened,
something happened to that song. I'm just saying. I'm just
because that I could picture it now.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
My mom told me to keep my my my privates
in my pants Jesus and said, listen to the song
from Houdini, and he tells you everything. They tell you
everything that you need to know about being out past
a certain hour, so make sure you're home. That was
the That was the speech my mom gave me when
I started driving.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
And by the way, was the original Harry Houdini was
the Italian.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Gotta be right, Harry, some of the magician bean.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, didn't he die in a water box because he
couldn't get out of.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
The bunch in the stomach? Oh yeah, you did say
this powerful abs. You got punched in the stomach and
he choked, Yeah to death. Yeah, just like internal bleeding.
You know, somebody sucker punched him, like some seventeen.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Year old that can actually happen. Are believing that, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's what it says on Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Like swallow a kino was stuck in there and then
it got punched and it had like rupshured internal Hey, Sam,
be awesome. Punch the stomach and a guy drops dead.
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Speaker 3 (36:21):
Good thing.
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The guys are here to bring you in case you
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Speaker 1 (36:26):
For that we turn it over to our executive producer,
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Speaker 9 (36:31):
Good Morning, everybody is one of Jones Morning, Brady.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
One of LeVar guys, in case you missed it, Dallas.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
One of LaVar guys.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
In case you missed it.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
Mavericks owner Mark Cubans selling a significant steak in the
team to the Addlson family based out of Las Vegas.
Miriam Addelson reportedly sold two billion dollars worth of the
Las Vegas Sands stock to make the purchase, but the
report says what's stock of the Las Vegas Sands?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
That oh, the Sands Hotel in Casino.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
Correct, you know, and resort that is correct. But it
is also reported that Cuban will retain operational control of
the team. He had bought the team for two hundred
and eighty five million back in two thousand. Out is
being valuad a three point five billion dollars Hey, Brady, Hey,
what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
Does he not own the majority stake of that team anymore?
Did he get an out of it? Like was out
there being a whole lot of discussion.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
He going, he's out, but he's still running all that.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
That is correct, But I say, and I also think
he's no longer going to be doing Shark Tank, So
that was part.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Of like, so I would think that he would do
more Shark Tank. So maybe this is him he's got
more investment dollars.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, maybe he's just kind of stake and taking a
step back at this point in his life, like screw it. Well,
a lot of my money, A lot of.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
People make that same claim they did years ago, that
this is a move so he could make a presidential run.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Look, he's sixty five. Us at some point, don't you
want to have some some fun in life? And maybe
that is what he feels like he's at. Maybe if
he wants to get into politics and you know, go
try to help our country like awesome more. Look, we
need good people to try to help lead our country
in that way. There's nothing wrong with that if that's
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what he wants to do. But maybe he just wants
to have fun. Man, he's sixty five.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
He's made a lot of Fittsburgh, you know, Yeah, from
the burg I'm Mount lebo Cut. You used to deliver newspapers.
Now now he's now he's a big roller, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
He just wants to ensure life, you know, more life,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Now, that's an owner that came from a different lifestyle
that went into the league and well did.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
It the right way if you ask me, Yeah, I'm
a little little biased.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Yeah, guys, in case you missed it, first, we're going
to see in the bull season an edible mascot. Reportedly
the Pop Charts Bowl winners of pop Charts Bowl will
celebrate by devouring the mascot after the game.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
What do you mean edibles, I mean pop tarts.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I think that might be an interesting way to watch
the game, if you get half in the edible of
a pop tart.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Now, what flavor?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
What flavor pop tart? If it's not strawberry, you can
kiss my ass.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Brown, cinnamon, sugar, maple, brown sugar. Yeah you know, I
mean those are solidary strawberry.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Straight up. It's got to be heated up.