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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Tuesday edition, we look back on Monday
and Night football. It was an upset but a big
time win for Jake Browning and the Cincinnati Bengals, and
what does it mean for Jacksonville moving forward? With Trevor
Lawrence's injury, the AFC South and the number one seed
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in the AFC playoff picture just got that much more interesting.
We will discuss. We're also going to get the very
latest on the injury to Kenny Pickett and the Pittsburgh
Steelers plan at quarterback. We're going to talk about the
bizarre situation in New York with the Jets and Zach Wilson.
None of it makes any sense. We've got transfer portal madness,
we've got the Heisman Trophy finalists which have been announced,
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(02:06):
Jake Browning was slanging it last night and the Cincinnati
Bengals are back to five hundred and a big win. Yeah,
that was impressive man.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And Evan McPherson gets it done late, but just to
see Jake Browning step in there and play the way
he did. Obviously, the Trevor Lawrence injury, which we can
get into, is a big deal, but it did feel
like regardless of the injury, Cincinnati was competitive throughout and
it felt like the right team won that game last night,
(02:36):
if I'm being honest just watching the game in total,
even though Tyler Boyd playing quarterback at that spot probably
wasn't the most ideal play call in the world, it
did feel like the right team won considering how they
played the entire game.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Yeah, brought him was phenomenal, I mean, in particular in
the first half, and I just we're getting to a
point where we don't leave any hits. It's like we
don't leave any chance or hope for backups or teams
with backups to come and win games.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
I mean, that's the reality.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Of if you look at like the Florida State situation,
that's an essence what the College Football Playoff Committee did,
and even in the NFL. I mean, we'll get into
a conversation about the Jets and that scenario and everything else,
Like it's just crazy how we feel like if the
starter can't go, oh, well, there goes the season, and.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I don't know, there's something that bothers me about it.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I mean, in one way, I understand the importance of
a quarterback as much as anyone else, but I also
understand the importance of the team around them, and I
feel like that's an element that we just continually miss
out on. It's a good Cincinnati Bengals roster. If you
have a quarterback who can distribute the football like Jake
Browning did last night, you're going to have an opportunity
in any game you play because they're so talented, then
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they have enough playmakers. So I just it was cool
to see that that game be as competitive as it
was because it didn't look like that. And I was thinking, man,
this is like an opportunity for Jacksonville to take a
stranglehold of that number one overall see in the AFC
and it's anything but Man, this is gonna be a fun,
fun playoff race down the rest of the way to
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see not only who's in, but what the city looks
like as well.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
I think what you're saying, and I don't want to
put words in your mouth, obviously, but football has always
been considered the ultimate team sport, and when one goes down,
the mantra has always been what Q next?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Guy up? I mean, that's always been what it's been.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
And uh, you know, and we always joke about it,
but riverside is a real thing. No matter what the
position is, riverside it's a real thing.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
And and so I mean, hell, that's how we do
it here, right, Yeah, this one of us goes down,
what happens riverside?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Man? And the show keeps.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Riverside that thing.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Hey, listen, I've never heard the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe show not go on air because one
of us wasn't on, not one time. So the show
does go on and you got to perform. And so
going into the game, you're looking at Cincinnati. I'm looking
at Cincinnati like their defense is still their defense, and
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their offensive weapons are still their offensive weapons. So even
though they've been struggling on offense as of late, there's
still the potential there that they can figure it out
and pull it together. I Mean, at some point you
got to realize backups are pretty much scout team players.
So they're getting good reps, they're just not getting they're
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not getting the starting offense reps, they're doing scout team reps,
so they're throwing the ball against better guys in practice
than most likely what the starters are. The starters are
working on timing, they're working on reads a situational football,
but the backups they're going against the defense and they're
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throwing the ball against the defense and they're giving the
defense looks. So you gotta get a guy acclimated enough
to speed on being a starting quarterback in the league.
That's just how it is. You don't have one hundred
players on your roster, so it works differently. And I
think you saw last night that there is you know,
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they're adjusting to life without you know, Joe Burrow and
there as the quarterback. And although I didn't think it
was a pretty win, you know, it wasn't the prettiest
of wins, but they were super competitive and they put
points on the board.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And while it wasn't you know, kind of I guess.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
I wouldn't say you would be overwhelmed by the way
they put those points on the board. Nonetheless, they were
able to make some plays, got the tight end involved,
you know, Jamar made some some made his his presence
felt in the game last evening. So, like you said, again,
a backup quarterback should have the opportunity to live their
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underdog story, just like any other player that might be
the starter at some point probably had an underdog story
of their own. So I don't understand why the narrative
has become you know, the starter guy is gone.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Now you're you're you know it's done.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Oh we have a bunch of front runners in America, Johnson?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Is that what it makes me sick? To be honest
with you. Listen, Cincinnati's the ultimate underdog story. They hadn't
won a road Monday night football game since nineteen ninety
and they weren't going to lose with those sweet ass
white helmets. You rock those sweet ass white helmets on
national television. You deserve to win the game. Jake Browning
deserves some respect and some love, and he's going to
get it. And he talked about what he learned following
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his first start, that awful game against the Pittsburgh Steelers
last week.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
So weird put up.
Speaker 8 (07:59):
There in your first start, you're kind of excited to
get another crack at it where you feel like I
had a better week. I kind of knew you I
had some was able to reflect on going through a
week of it, which I can watch Joe or whoever
I've been behind do it a million times, is different
once it's you, and so I was able to kind
of reflect them what was my week like.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
And what I need to improve.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
And it was the first time in a live pocket
for a little while, and first time in a regular
season game for my whole career. So learned a lot
from the Pittsburgh game and was really able to focus
on some of those things throughout the week of practice.
But I think the main thing is just having those
reps and having another week of it, and we were
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able to put up points.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Who to thunk it even a backup, you know, you
give them an opportunity to have a second crack at it.
Maybe it'll look a little better in the first time,
you know, especially when you're not playing the Steelers. You know,
who who'd have thought that would that's the way that
they would have gone but Stellers, Yeah, the Steelers, Steelers.
But yeah, I mean Cincinnati still alive. Man sitting at
six and six, just kind of hanging out there, and
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who knows if Jake Brown can play this the way
he played. I mean, I would say, is their quarterback
situation in Cincinnati better than the one in Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
I've thought that. I thought Flacco looked pretty good man he.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Early on, then it kind of faded. I think it's
better for this reason. I mean, it's one backup who's
been there, and it's you're not rotating a bunch of
different guys. Like when dtr comes back healthy for Cleveland,
I don't know that Flaca is gonna be the.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Guy still, that's true.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
So that's the problem is to kind of Levar's earlier point, like,
you've got a guy who's been getting reps he's been
seeing in that room, who's been preparing as the backup
the whole season. I mean, if they're if they are
getting offensive reps, it's been Jake Browning, so he's been
prepared for this moment. Heeds he needs the real live
game reps. You know, you listen to people sometime talk
(10:02):
about and I work with Hope, someone who says you
are what you are. The problem is most these guys
haven't got an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
No, it's not.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Most of these guys haven't gotten an opportunity to determine
what they are and most of these guys, with the
more reps they get, become a better version of their self.
I mean, you think that as people and human beings too, right,
you'd like to think that, And that's where you get
this like dumb thought that like, oh these guys are
they are with their now some of these guys just
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haven't got that opportunity to showcase what they are. And
that's what you're getting now with Jake Browning, he's a
very successful quarterback during his time in high school, a
very successful quarterback during his time in college, and he's
been a backup so far in the league. Well, this
is his opportunity and we'll see what that looks like.
There's other backups right now, Gardner Minshew to be name
one who's got his team in a position how to
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go to the playoffs. And the playoffs started today. A
lot of people want to write them off. People run
off teams where Josh Jobs is leading them now. I
don't know if Dobbs will lead Minnesota this week, but
we've seen countless, you know, catless things like this happen.
You know, Jordan Love didn't get his opportunity to till
this season. He looks like he's gonna be a good
franchise starting quarterback for them so far.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
So there's all those things.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
That are kind of at play here, and it's just
kind of interesting that for some reason we tend to
write things off when the starter goes out, like we're like,
we're a bunch of front runners, and we don't believe
that there's anyone who could step.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
In and do the job.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Plus you could do a lot worse than Jamar Chase
and t Higgins.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
And that's the reality of it is. You have to
look at what's around them. M Yes, three twelve, go ahead, Jonas,
Why are you get so quiet?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
You got quiet? I mean, can you drive? Like what
you're doing?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
The green right here? You go, like LeVar, he takes
a break.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
The light is green, Jonas Knox, you are listening to
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That's Jonas knock that's Brady Quinn. I'm LeVar Arrington. We
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Show agenda today, and you know what you know, I'll
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stop me if you heard this before. The Pittsburgh Steelers
and Kenny Pickett have an injury issue. Kenny Pickett who
went down with the ankle injury on it during Sunday's game.
He is going to miss some time. He had the
old tight rope surgery. That's an old bike chain surgery, right, Brady.
They throw a little bike chain in your ankle to
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a hey, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Think it's a little WG forty a little bit of
a bike chain.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
They wrap around there and then they kind of duct
tape it in there together.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Nice. Yeah. So that's what the is there for Kenny
Pickett in Pittsburgh. And so Mike Tomlin yesterday spoke about
the decision to have the surgery, which obviously means Picket
will miss some time, and also whether he feels that
this is a chronic issue for the Steelers quarterback.
Speaker 10 (15:14):
Kenny has a high ankle sprain. He had it surgically
repaired this morning in an effort to accelerate the healing process.
Don't have a lot of information on the status of
that yet, just rest assured that he is out this week.
He was managing that ankle prior to yesterday. I think
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it was listed on the injury report every day last week,
and so it got aggravated and we just did what
was necessary in terms of addressing it. I don't know
that we're viewing it as something that's chronic, particularly with
something like an ankle injury, and so we're just dealing
with this on a case by case basis as we
sit here right now.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So now Mitch Trubisky will take over as he's starting
quarterback and.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
That sign though, yeah, they did.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
We are.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Old trace Mac.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
That's that's right.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
What do you mean last time you were good.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
At I mean, you know what I mean? I mean,
you know what I mean. That came out the wrong way. Wait,
hold on, hold on, hold on, because we've been good.
We've we've been really good.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
That's the last time we won the Big ten?
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Is let me throw that my bad top ten team.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I don't think fans in Boulder would trade places with
you right now.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Yeah, that's not what I meant. That's not That's not
what I meant. I meant that's the last time we
won the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, Mac though, Yeah, back in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He's going to play his best football there. He's gonna
end up playing.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Watch Mason Rudolph's going to be the backup to Mitch
tru Whisky. But it does feel like a little bit
of a common theme here with Pickett, Like he's just
a lot of time like during the course of his career,
and there was the concussions. You now he's got the
ankle injury. I think I saw the number that you know,
this is the seventh time Trubisky has been brought in
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to replace Picket due to injury in like twenty six games.
Like it just it feels like this is an ongoing
issue there with Kenny Pickett and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I
know Mike Tomlins saying, you know, they don't look at
the ankles a chronic issue, but just overall health wise,
he's been banged up a lot there in Pittsburgh since
he's gotten there.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
I think it really makes it difficult to evaluate him
on his rookie deal as a starting quarterback for multiple reasons.
I mean, you've got the injuries, that's part of it,
and then you've had the Matt Canada effect, which is
not a good one. And the times we've seen this
offense with Picket without Matt Canada calling plays, it's been good.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
It's been much better. There's much more productive. So that's
the hard part is you.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Know, this is a team that's trying to make a
decision on this young man moving forward, and it's hard
to do that because unfortunately they had him with a
play caller who wouldn't really allow him to be the
quarterback that he could be. And now injuries have kept
them from that as well. So it's Trubisky time and
the Steelers are still in the playoff hunt, so there's
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a ton to.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Play for every single week.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I don't know that Pikett will be able to come
back for probably another three weeks. He might he might
be able to be able to get back sometime in
that timeframe. But you know, two a tongue of my
Lowe when he was in college, had the surgery. I
think he came back in like two three weeks whatever
it was. To come back and play LSU back when
Joe Burrow was there, if you remember that, he did
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not look healthy though. And I've seen other players get
the surgery and try to come back in a couple
of weeks time, and usually it's it's pretty apparent they're
still adjusting and still trying to rehab and get better.
So hopefully he's able to come back sooner than later,
but I wouldn't expect it, probably for the next three games.
And this is obviously a big time stretch for the Steelers,
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at least in regards to making a playoff hunt.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Dr Biskey isn't the answer. We've known that, damn.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
It's It's interesting because we just had a conversation about
backups being able to step in and do what they
need to do. But he's had the opportunity to show
that he can or he can't, and I just I
don't think that there's a real confidence level in that
that he would be able to get them through. I mean,
look at what the results were of this past you know, Sunday.
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But I will also add this to the scenario. It's
kind of sad that that picket would go down when
he did, because they did seem to open up the playbook.
It did seem to be a different feel to to
how they were approaching calling the game with Kenny Pickett,
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and so with him being out, it does I think
it definitely jeopardizes their season. And the question is how
much damage is there that's done to the sea while
he's out. You know, they get the Patriots. That's not
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that that won't be a bad, you know, a bad outing.
I'm sure they'll they'll be able to take that one.
You got, you got, you got the Colts. The Colts
are playing pretty well.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Their last month of the season is not easy.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Yeah, it's it's it's not it's not a horrible it's
not horrible. I mean, the Bengals showed you that they're
still the Bengals, right, and and then the Seahawks are
like they're a fringe team. These are all and then
they got the Ravens and that's that's gonna be the
tough one, the toughest one of them all. But it's
it's one of those things that their defense can can
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hold them up like they've done anyway. But if the
defense can hold them up and they can muster you know,
some points, enough points to.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Be able to win.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Yeah, right, because it's so close to mustard, and I
hate mustard side of it, like must You know, I'm
just serious about that. Every time you like, someone says mustard,
I'm like, oh, I thought they were gonna say mustard.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I hate mustard.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
If they can mustard enough points?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Is the guy on clue? Is it Klonel mustard or mustard?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I never played Clue?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Really, you never played Clue.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That's a great game, is it really?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, it's mustard, it is mustard. It's mustard. Then that's
why he's got a mustard colored soup. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Well, I think it would be appropriate to say if
they can mustard some points and get some wins, because
I mean, it would be hind mustard. So I would
assume that that would be a I know what you're
doing now, I know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Pretty you don't like any mustard? What about like spicy mustard?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
You know what's the worst about People are gonna judge
me for this?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Is is it?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
The North Carolina barbecue sauce has mustard in it?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, so that's what I do with my barbecue.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Really, come on, man, that's Carolina barbecue.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I could tell right away to see when people are like, oh,
it's a Carolina, I'm like, Nope, give me some of that, Casey,
give me some of that Texas barbecue, Bama.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
It's too acid. There's something there's something about that tanginess
and the barbecue sauce I don't like.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I love it. That's that's my that's my joint. That's
part of my recipe, LaVar.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
If I ever get out there for one of your
throwdowns when you're cooking, please just do not make barbecue
sauce with mustard ediforming.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well, you'll be happy to know that. I do have
somebodies that don't want any sauce on.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
It at all.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
So I do make some that are Yeah, I do
make some that are totally naked. And you can do
it how you want to do it. So just so
you know, it's really good. It's really good. Damn, it's
really good.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's good. It's good without the mustard, it's good with
the mustard.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
But I will say the Steelers aren't good without the picket,
and then or I mean, yeah, they're not good without
the picket, but they are good with the picket, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Are you gonnaive to a stit update on what's happened in
the in season tournament, and so cares about that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I will say this though, don't look now, but Mike
Tomlins above five hundred or five hundred and above record,
I feel like it's in jeopardy because I think their
only winnable game the rest of the way is this
game on Thursday against New England. I don't think they're
winning at Indianapolis. I don't think they're beating Cincinnati at home.
With the way Jake Browning played, I.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Mean the first one of ten wins.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It is true. And then at Seattle at Baltimore to
close up the year, we could be looking at eight
and nine.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Did you see the stat?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Maybe you can correct me on this if I'm wrong
that New England's the first team to lose three straight
games holding opponents to ten points or less. Wow, it's
crazy if you think how bad offensive you have to be.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You know, I mean, look, they'll be in the market
for a QB. You know, maybe Drake may or Caleb
Williams is a solution there. You know, maybe that's uh,
maybe that's the plan there in Foxborough. What do we
got Lee, Yeah, that is correct. I think since nineteen
thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Ooh, nineteenth, damn yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
I mean when you're throwing stats that involve that long ago,
I literally go back and think about, like, think about
how different the world was, Like, think about how different
things were in nineteen thirty eight compared to twenty twenty three,
and like how much football's changed since then. Yet no
one's ever accomplished that task since then.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh god, So yesterday, when we first talked about that
game Steelers Patriots, we mentioned it and I looked at
the point total. It was at thirty four and a half.
I think it's dropped down to thirty and a half
in like twenty four hours.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Take the under take.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
So the Steelers not only look like Iowa and uniform,
but they're looking like them offensively now as well too.
That's good, all right, So thirty and a half. You're
not tempted to just take the over just because is
it so low? Or do you have to go all
in on on these offenses being awful? Like at some point,
under man, I wonder what the team to If you
(25:11):
had to guess right now, would you guys say the
over under is for for the Patriots team total points
in that game. If you had a guess, right now,
team total and a half. Okay, let me just go
ahead and uh, we'll find this here, vamp for me,
just kind of discuss some more mustard, any sort of bar.
What about Brad Muster? Remember him, former running back for
(25:33):
the Bears. Didn't he play at Stanford back in the day.
I think he was a Stanford cardinal, Brad Muster. Believe
he was Muster Mustard Muster. All right, let's see we
have got all right, so team total touchdowns for the
Patriots at a half, We've got let's see blah blah
(25:54):
blah blah blah. Yeah, still efforting. I'll find this. I
will get all this information.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
For you can't found it.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Var.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
I just say, that's what I love about Johnnas. He
was literally on live radio asking question he.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Does because I thought I thought it was the opposite
of Colombo, you know, I thought that was like Columbo's stick.
I'm seeing ten and a half appears to be the number.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
All right, ten and half to get number though that
makes sense?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, it is two pros and a cup of joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, it is LeVar Arrington Brady
Quinn Jonas Knox with you, by the way, your guys'
thoughts on the transfer portal and the craziness. What was
the number yesterday? I think over a thousand people entered
the transfer I didn't.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
See a thousand. I saw like five hundred at one point.
Maybe at the end of the day. It led into
that I would generally just say this man, well, no,
someone there's long term effects here, like down the road,
I'm saying ten twenty years down the road where we're
gonna see a lot of young people who bounced around
different schools in search of either you know, money or
(26:56):
trying to find an opportunity to play sports and then
come completely throwing their education to the wayside. And I
have no idea how that's going to impact them down
the road. As far as getting a job, their career,
all those things, I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And that's that's my concern is.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I'm not saying that we need to like we're protecting
young people from themselves, but it kind of feels like
that a little bit, like at some point you don't
allow young people to do certain things at certain ages
because you don't feel like they're fully able to comprehend
and understand what's at stake, and humanity tends to always
(27:35):
struggle with, you know, doing what they want now instead
of what they want most and being disciplined enough to
you know, hold on to whatever it is for what
they want most down the road. So I just I
look at this more kind of from a thirty thousand
foot view and just wonder what this all looks like
in the future, because outside of a few top players,
(27:59):
a lot of these players end up kind of shuffling
around and ends up not working out. I mean, take,
for example, the quarterback and Notre Dame Tyler Buckner, who
used to be there, transferred to Bama last year. Get
to start doesn't work out. He's in the portal. He's
in the portal for lacrosse. He's literally now going to
switch sports, transfer somewhere else from Alabama for lacrosse, giving
(28:23):
up on football. Now that might come with a great
degree from a different school where he was at one
point maybe recruited for lacrosse. But I mean, I just
I worry for young people because they're being empowered right
now to do this stuff. And it's great in one aspect,
(28:44):
but I don't feel like we've provided them enough of
a support system in most cases, and I don't know
that they come from a background that has enough of
a support system to make sound decisions or decisions that
take into account what they want now but also what
they want most.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
In the future. If that makes sense, It makes a
lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
And it is.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
It is a very concerning commentary and narrative that's developing
with this transfer portal. It really is. Because it is
it's it's a mad dash for a pipe dream, and
I hate to put it that way, but that's what
it is. And a lot of these guys will be
(29:29):
disappointed in what it is that that they're doing.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
It's it's it's wild this time of the year. My
cell phone does not stop. This is this.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Is It's like every other moment, I'm getting a text
message from a family that that I've I've been been
with for a really long time, of a family that
I've met, a kid that I've met, and every bodies
looking for somebody to help them find the next landing space.
(30:05):
And my answer is always the same. And people really
need to pay attention and take heat to this word.
The grass is not always greener on the other side. Well,
what does that mean? What does that mean? As Q
just mentioned, get your education, get your education, and I
(30:26):
would urge, I would urge you. If you do not
have a landing place before you enter that transfer portal,
you have taken and made a terrible, terrible mistake. If
you do not have an idea or know that you
(30:47):
are wanted before you enter that transfer portal, you are
making a terrible mistake. One, you're taking away your opportunity
to continue in education and getting a what would be
perceived as a free education. You're you're free of bills
(31:07):
and owing for going to school. And two, you still
have a chance. You still have a chance. You are
on this team, and whether it looks like you will
never play for them or not, you still have a chance,
which is better than the chance you'd have enterning it
into the portal and not having a team, a coach,
(31:31):
and an idea of where it is that you're going
to go. It's a transfer portal. You go in there
to transfer. You don't go in there as a free
agent market. You go in there to transfer because, for
what it's worth, that is indeed more likely the place
(31:51):
where coaches are going to look for players that they've
already recruited, which means they already have a relationship with
these guys. So not looking for you. If you don't
have that dialogue, that relationship prior to going into college,
it's a bad decision. And what I'm finding and seeing
with a lot of these kids is that they are
(32:14):
sitting at home. That's the horrible part of this story
that needs to probably at some point get reported. A
lot of these kids are sitting at home because they
do not find a landing place for leaving the school.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That they're at. And that's reality.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
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Speaker 11 (33:46):
Good morning, everybody more to join us. Morning the bar,
Morning Brady, guys.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
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Speaker 11 (33:55):
That's right, Hey, hey LaVar, you were just talking about
your phone buzzing off the hook the last few days. Well,
you are in the same company as what it only
Hey Brady, You're in the same company as it only
Nick Saban, who says, after his phone number was leaked
to the public after the college football playoff rankings were announced,
(34:18):
that he's gotten more than two hundred and fifty calls
from anonymous FSU fans calling him every name in the book.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
What a group.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I mean, look, I understand their frustration. I understand how
upset they are.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I really do.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
It's not his fault, you know. I mean, he did
what he's coached and paid to do. I mean, I
just I don't know. It stinks that people are like
that sometimes. I mean, look, even Kyle McCord, we talked
about it yesterday. He ended up putting his name in
the transfer portal. You should see some of the reactions
from Ohio State fans. You know, a kid who's only
(34:55):
lost one game as a starter, played banged up for
a portion of the sea, and yet people are just
it's brutal.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Nowadays social media.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
I think it's an awful social science experiments happening in
society right now.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Did just expose what we already know?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Didn't Jordan Travis suffer that injury against North Alabama? Thank
you Dad? Yes, So it's the entire state Alabama Florida
State fans probably can't stand right now, like all of
them hate their guys. It's too bad, and I feel
bad for Nick Saban and who who's Like, isn't it
a crime that you just leak somebody's phone number? Like,
(35:33):
that's not a crime.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I don't crime.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
It should be, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
What a scumbag move? Well what else we got, lee, guys?
Speaker 11 (35:43):
In case you missed this, a YouTuber was sentenced Monday
to six months in federal prison for obstruction of justice
after he deliberately crashed his single propeller plane in order
to bolster his social media presence. Trevor Daniel Jacob, thirty
years old, out of Lompoc, was on his way to
uh Mammoth Lakes flying his plane, and he later posted
a video on YouTube called I crashed my airplane. But
(36:06):
in the video you see him clearly jumping out of
the single propeller plane, even though he had told authorities
two days after the crash that it was engine failure
and that was the reason why he needed to bail
out of the plane. He was facing up to twenty
years in prison, but as settled now for six months.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
All right, Case number two for why social media will
be the bane of our existence as humans.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Well, I mean this is the kind of stupid stuff
that goes on.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
What a loser.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Well yeah, all for social media following.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
I mean, thank god there's no one else injured in
all this as he I mean, the whole thing was
staged and planned. I saw the video. You could tell
he was preparing the plane for some sort of you know,
crash or controlled crash, but either way, just so stupid.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Have you guys ever seen like behind the scenes of
a social media influencer when they're getting ready to shoot videos.
It's almost embarrassing. And Lee, you know who I'm talking about.
We don't need to air this out on the air,
but watching them go through the theatrics to get into character,
to pretend like what they're doing is in real time,
(37:10):
and I'm almost embarrassed for him that that's that's a
real gig and they make a fortune. I'd love to
know what this guy made on jumping out of a plane.
By the way, Lee, it's long poke And the only
reason I know that's the correct pronunciation is because they
beat us two years in a row in the playoffs.
My high school football career.
Speaker 11 (37:27):
I've heard it both ways my whole life, and I
never realized.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
That it was a.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Well, knock them out. I didn't play my problem. So
basically they basically yeah, they and there was no payday
at the end of this thing. Like social media influencers
make millions upon millions of dollars. And I almost wonder
if he's like, you know what, six months in federal prison.
What do you think the conversation?
Speaker 6 (37:53):
What the problem is by the way, with you saying
that is that's not true. There's like a select few
that do. It's not all of them. There's a ton
of competition.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Think about it.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
The barriers to entry to becoming a social media influence
are having a phone, and then from there it's doing
one thing that makes you go viral so you gain
a following, and then from there it's just continue to
try to find whatever works to build that following. Like
it's it's not true that all influencers are gonna be
making millions. There's only a select, a select few. And
(38:23):
that's the problem is you perpetuate like other people that
all these people can go out and be influencers to
make millions.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
That's not what they're making.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Like half the times they're like by a jet that's
on a runway that they're making look like they're flying somewhere.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Are you trying to What are you blaming me for this?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You're part of the problem. Damn you guys perpetuate these lies.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I only have like twelve followers on Instagram? What did
I do?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
You perpetuate these lies?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Do you think he when they're having conversations, he's next
to the guy in the same cell as him.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
He should have you should have compared the influencers behind
the scenes and the same thing you solve from the
film industry. Oh wow, Yeah, that's the type of fake
and preparedness there, you know, to get ready for death.
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Steelers plan at quarterback. We're going to talk about the
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out the Cincinnati Bengals point dogs on the road and
(02:06):
Jake Browning was slanging it last night and the Cincinnati
Bengals are back to five hundred and a big win. Yeah,
that was impressive man.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And Evan McPherson gets it done late, but just to
see Jake Browning step in there and play the way
he did. Obviously, the Trevor Lawrence injury, which we can
get into, is a big deal, but it did feel
like regardless of the injury, Cincinnati was competitive throughout and
it felt like the right team won that game last night,
(02:36):
if I'm being honest just watching the game in total,
even though Tyler Boyd playing quarterback at that spot probably
wasn't the most ideal play call in the world, it
did feel like the right team won considering how they
played the entire game.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Yeah, brought him was phenomenal, I mean, in particular in
the first half, and I just we're getting to a
point where we don't leave any hits. It's like we
don't leave any chance or hope for backups or teams
with backups to come and win games.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
I mean, that's the reality.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Of if you look at like the Florida State situation,
that's an essence what the College Football Playoff Committee did,
and even in the NFL. I mean, we'll get into
a conversation about the Jets and that scenario and everything else,
Like it's just crazy how we feel like if the
starter can't go, oh, well, there goes the season, and.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I don't know, there's something that bothers me about it.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I mean, in one way, I understand the importance of
a quarterback as much as anyone else, but I also
understand the importance of the team around them, and I
feel like that's an element that we just continually miss
out on. It's a good Cincinnati Bengals roster. If you
have a quarterback who can distribute the football like Jake
Browning did last night, you're going to have an opportunity
in any game you play because they're so talented, then
(03:54):
they have enough playmakers. So I just it was cool
to see that that game be as competitive as it
was because it didn't look like that. And I was thinking, man,
this is like an opportunity for Jacksonville to take a
stranglehold of that number one overall see in the AFC
and it's anything but Man, this is gonna be a fun,
fun playoff race down the rest of the way to
(04:15):
see not only who's in, but what the city looks
like as well.
Speaker 7 (04:20):
I think what you're saying, and I don't want to
put words in your mouth, obviously, but football has always
been considered the ultimate team sport, and when one goes down,
the mantra has always been what Q next?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Guy up? I mean, that's always been what it's been.
Speaker 7 (04:37):
And uh, you know, and we always joke about it,
but riverside is a real thing. No matter what the
position is, riverside it's a real thing.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
And and so I mean, hell, that's how we do
it here, right, Yeah, this one of us goes down,
what happens riverside?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Man? And the show keeps.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Riverside that thing.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
Hey, listen, I've never heard the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe show not go on air because one
of us wasn't on, not one time. So the show
does go on and you got to perform. And so
going into the game, you're looking at Cincinnati. I'm looking
at Cincinnati like their defense is still their defense, and
(05:22):
their offensive weapons are still their offensive weapons. So even
though they've been struggling on offense as of late, there's
still the potential there that they can figure it out
and pull it together. I Mean, at some point you
got to realize backups are pretty much scout team players.
So they're getting good reps, they're just not getting they're
(05:45):
not getting the starting offense reps, they're doing scout team reps,
so they're throwing the ball against better guys in practice
than most likely what the starters are. The starters are
working on timing, they're working on reads a situational football,
but the backups they're going against the defense and they're
(06:07):
throwing the ball against the defense and they're giving the
defense looks. So you gotta get a guy acclimated enough
to speed on being a starting quarterback in the league.
That's just how it is. You don't have one hundred
players on your roster, so it works differently. And I
think you saw last night that there is you know,
(06:30):
they're adjusting to life without you know, Joe Burrow and
there as the quarterback. And although I didn't think it
was a pretty win, you know, it wasn't the prettiest
of wins, but they were super competitive and they put
points on the board.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And while it wasn't you know, kind of I guess.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
I wouldn't say you would be overwhelmed by the way
they put those points on the board. Nonetheless, they were
able to make some plays, got the tight end involved,
you know, Jamar made some some made his his presence
felt in the game last evening. So, like you said, again,
a backup quarterback should have the opportunity to live their
(07:13):
underdog story, just like any other player that might be
the starter at some point probably had an underdog story
of their own. So I don't understand why the narrative
has become you know, the starter guy is gone.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Now you're you're you know it's done.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Oh we have a bunch of front runners in America, Johnson?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Is that what it makes me sick? To be honest
with you. Listen, Cincinnati's the ultimate underdog story. They hadn't
won a road Monday night football game since nineteen ninety
and they weren't going to lose with those sweet ass
white helmets. You rock those sweet ass white helmets on
national television. You deserve to win the game. Jake Browning
deserves some respect and some love, and he's going to
get it. And he talked about what he learned following
(07:54):
his first start, that awful game against the Pittsburgh Steelers
last week.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
So weird put up.
Speaker 8 (07:59):
There in your first start, you're kind of excited to
get another crack at it where you feel like I
had a better week. I kind of knew you I
had some was able to reflect on going through a
week of it, which I can watch Joe or whoever
I've been behind do it a million times, is different
once it's you, and so I was able to kind
of reflect them what was my week like.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
And what I need to improve.
Speaker 8 (08:22):
And it was the first time in a live pocket
for a little while, and first time in a regular
season game for my whole career. So learned a lot
from the Pittsburgh game and was really able to focus
on some of those things throughout the week of practice.
But I think the main thing is just having those
reps and having another week of it, and we were
(08:42):
able to put up points.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Who to thunk it even a backup, you know, you
give them an opportunity to have a second crack at it.
Maybe it'll look a little better in the first time,
you know, especially when you're not playing the Steelers. You know,
who who'd have thought that would that's the way that
they would have gone but Stellers, Yeah, the Steelers, Steelers.
But yeah, I mean Cincinnati still alive. Man sitting at
six and six, just kind of hanging out there, and
(09:05):
who knows if Jake Brown can play this the way
he played. I mean, I would say, is their quarterback
situation in Cincinnati better than the one in Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
I've thought that. I thought Flacco looked pretty good man he.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Early on, then it kind of faded. I think it's
better for this reason. I mean, it's one backup who's
been there, and it's you're not rotating a bunch of
different guys. Like when dtr comes back healthy for Cleveland,
I don't know that Flaca is gonna be the.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Guy still, that's true.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
So that's the problem is to kind of Levar's earlier point, like,
you've got a guy who's been getting reps he's been
seeing in that room, who's been preparing as the backup
the whole season. I mean, if they're if they are
getting offensive reps, it's been Jake Browning, so he's been
prepared for this moment. Heeds he needs the real live
game reps. You know, you listen to people sometime talk
(10:02):
about and I work with Hope, someone who says you
are what you are. The problem is most these guys
haven't got an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
No, it's not.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Most of these guys haven't gotten an opportunity to determine
what they are and most of these guys, with the
more reps they get, become a better version of their self.
I mean, you think that as people and human beings too, right,
you'd like to think that, And that's where you get
this like dumb thought that like, oh these guys are
they are with their now some of these guys just
(10:35):
haven't got that opportunity to showcase what they are. And
that's what you're getting now with Jake Browning, he's a
very successful quarterback during his time in high school, a
very successful quarterback during his time in college, and he's
been a backup so far in the league. Well, this
is his opportunity and we'll see what that looks like.
There's other backups right now, Gardner Minshew to be name
one who's got his team in a position how to
(10:55):
go to the playoffs. And the playoffs started today. A
lot of people want to write them off. People run
off teams where Josh Jobs is leading them now. I
don't know if Dobbs will lead Minnesota this week, but
we've seen countless, you know, catless things like this happen.
You know, Jordan Love didn't get his opportunity to till
this season. He looks like he's gonna be a good
franchise starting quarterback for them so far.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
So there's all those things.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
That are kind of at play here, and it's just
kind of interesting that for some reason we tend to
write things off when the starter goes out, like we're like,
we're a bunch of front runners, and we don't believe
that there's anyone who could step.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
In and do the job.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Plus you could do a lot worse than Jamar Chase
and t Higgins.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
And that's the reality of it is. You have to
look at what's around them. M Yes, three twelve, go ahead, Jonas,
Why are you get so quiet?
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
You got quiet? I mean, can you drive? Like what
you're doing?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
The green right here? You go, like LeVar, he takes
a break.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
The light is green, Jonas Knox, you are listening to
two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
That's Jonas knock that's Brady Quinn. I'm LeVar Arrington. We
got a lot on the.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
Show agenda today, and you know what you know, I'll
give it to Jonas right now to tell you because
he loves giving great teases before we go to the Brady.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
There you go, I'll tell you go here it is
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox. So we
do have the usuals coming up. Later on we get
another edition of incase you missed it. We've also got
some would you rather an hour two of the program,
We're going to close up shop with you and you out.
It's all yours, a three hour extravaganz on a Tuesday morning.
But we do have a team in the NFL who's
(12:33):
got a problem at quarterback. Get in line. But apparently
this one's gonna last at least a couple of weeks,
and we'll tell you who that is right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
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Speaker 9 (12:54):
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Speaker 7 (13:25):
Come on, Jonas, come on, Jonas, you can do it.
You can do it, Jonas, come on.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I don't get it, I really know.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
I mean, it's a bit, it's definitely well, let's just
roll with it.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's it's all two pros, two pros and a cup
of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, I was admiring
the classics. You know, it's good to hear the classics
from Mark here another this fancy modern day Christmas garbage
that people like to throw out there during this time
of year. Just the classics, the good old stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Gave me the chance to just keep messing with you though.
That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Who is that bit? Was that bing Crosby?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Of course that was Bing Crosby.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Andy Williams Bing Crosby. Same thing. Well, listen coming up
here a little over twenty minutes from now from the
Tired Classics though tig dot com Studios. A real dirty
move in the world of football. Just a real dirty
move by an entire fan base in the world of football.
And we'll give you the details on that again a
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little over twenty minutes from now here on FSR. So
stop me if you heard this before. The Pittsburgh Steelers
and Kenny Pickett have an injury issue. Kenny Pickett who
went down with the ankle injury on it during Sunday's game.
He is going to miss some time. He had the
old tight rope surgery. That's an old bike chain surgery, right, Brady.
They throw a little bike chain in your ankle to
(14:50):
a hey, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Think it's a little WG forty a little bit of
a bike chain.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
They wrap around there and then they kind of duct
tape it in there together.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Nice. Yeah. So that's what the is there for Kenny
Pickett in Pittsburgh. And so Mike Tomlin yesterday spoke about
the decision to have the surgery, which obviously means Picket
will miss some time, and also whether he feels that
this is a chronic issue for the Steelers quarterback.
Speaker 10 (15:14):
Kenny has a high ankle sprain. He had it surgically
repaired this morning in an effort to accelerate the healing process.
Don't have a lot of information on the status of
that yet, just rest assured that he is out this week.
He was managing that ankle prior to yesterday. I think
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it was listed on the injury report every day last week,
and so it got aggravated and we just did what
was necessary in terms of addressing it. I don't know
that we're viewing it as something that's chronic, particularly with
something like an ankle injury, and so we're just dealing
with this on a case by case basis as we
sit here right now.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So now Mitch Trubisky will take over as he's starting
quarterback and.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
That sign though, yeah, they did.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
We are.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Old trace Mac.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
That's that's right.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
What do you mean last time you were good.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
At I mean, you know what I mean? I mean,
you know what I mean. That came out the wrong way. Wait,
hold on, hold on, hold on, because we've been good.
We've we've been really good.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
That's the last time we won the Big ten?
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Is let me throw that my bad top ten team.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I don't think fans in Boulder would trade places with
you right now.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Yeah, that's not what I meant. That's not That's not
what I meant. I meant that's the last time we
won the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, Mac though, Yeah, back in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He's going to play his best football there. He's gonna
end up playing.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Watch Mason Rudolph's going to be the backup to Mitch
tru Whisky. But it does feel like a little bit
of a common theme here with Pickett, Like he's just
a lot of time like during the course of his career,
and there was the concussions. You now he's got the
ankle injury. I think I saw the number that you know,
this is the seventh time Trubisky has been brought in
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to replace Picket due to injury in like twenty six games.
Like it just it feels like this is an ongoing
issue there with Kenny Pickett and the Pittsburgh Steelers. I
know Mike Tomlins saying, you know, they don't look at
the ankles a chronic issue, but just overall health wise,
he's been banged up a lot there in Pittsburgh since
he's gotten there.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
I think it really makes it difficult to evaluate him
on his rookie deal as a starting quarterback for multiple reasons.
I mean, you've got the injuries, that's part of it,
and then you've had the Matt Canada effect, which is
not a good one. And the times we've seen this
offense with Picket without Matt Canada calling plays, it's been good.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
It's been much better. There's much more productive. So that's
the hard part is you.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Know, this is a team that's trying to make a
decision on this young man moving forward, and it's hard
to do that because unfortunately they had him with a
play caller who wouldn't really allow him to be the
quarterback that he could be. And now injuries have kept
them from that as well. So it's Trubisky time and
the Steelers are still in the playoff hunt, so there's
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a ton to.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Play for every single week.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I don't know that Pikett will be able to come
back for probably another three weeks. He might he might
be able to be able to get back sometime in
that timeframe. But you know, two a tongue of my
Lowe when he was in college, had the surgery. I
think he came back in like two three weeks whatever
it was. To come back and play LSU back when
Joe Burrow was there, if you remember that, he did
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not look healthy though. And I've seen other players get
the surgery and try to come back in a couple
of weeks time, and usually it's it's pretty apparent they're
still adjusting and still trying to rehab and get better.
So hopefully he's able to come back sooner than later,
but I wouldn't expect it, probably for the next three games.
And this is obviously a big time stretch for the Steelers,
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at least in regards to making a playoff hunt.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Dr Biskey isn't the answer. We've known that, damn.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
It's It's interesting because we just had a conversation about
backups being able to step in and do what they
need to do. But he's had the opportunity to show
that he can or he can't, and I just I
don't think that there's a real confidence level in that
that he would be able to get them through. I mean,
look at what the results were of this past you know, Sunday.
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But I will also add this to the scenario. It's
kind of sad that that picket would go down when
he did, because they did seem to open up the playbook.
It did seem to be a different feel to to
how they were approaching calling the game with Kenny Pickett,
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and so with him being out, it does I think
it definitely jeopardizes their season. And the question is how
much damage is there that's done to the sea while
he's out. You know, they get the Patriots. That's not
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that that won't be a bad, you know, a bad outing.
I'm sure they'll they'll be able to take that one.
You got, you got, you got the Colts. The Colts
are playing pretty well.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Their last month of the season is not easy.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Yeah, it's it's it's not it's not a horrible it's
not horrible. I mean, the Bengals showed you that they're
still the Bengals, right, and and then the Seahawks are
like they're a fringe team. These are all and then
they got the Ravens and that's that's gonna be the
tough one, the toughest one of them all. But it's
it's one of those things that their defense can can
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hold them up like they've done anyway. But if the
defense can hold them up and they can muster you know,
some points, enough points to.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Be able to win.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Yeah, right, because it's so close to mustard, and I
hate mustard side of it, like must You know, I'm
just serious about that. Every time you like, someone says mustard,
I'm like, oh, I thought they were gonna say mustard.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I hate mustard.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
If they can mustard enough points?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Is the guy on clue? Is it Klonel mustard or mustard?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I never played Clue?
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Really, you never played Clue.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That's a great game, is it really?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, it's mustard, it is mustard. It's mustard. Then that's
why he's got a mustard colored soup. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Well, I think it would be appropriate to say if
they can mustard some points and get some wins, because
I mean, it would be hind mustard. So I would
assume that that would be a I know what you're
doing now, I know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Pretty you don't like any mustard? What about like spicy mustard?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
You know what's the worst about People are gonna judge
me for this?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Is is it?
Speaker 5 (21:47):
The North Carolina barbecue sauce has mustard in it?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, so that's what I do with my barbecue.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Really, come on, man, that's Carolina barbecue.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
I could tell right away to see when people are like, oh,
it's a Carolina, I'm like, Nope, give me some of that, Casey,
give me some of that Texas barbecue, Bama.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
It's too acid. There's something there's something about that tanginess
and the barbecue sauce I don't like.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I love it. That's that's my that's my joint. That's
part of my recipe, LaVar.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
If I ever get out there for one of your
throwdowns when you're cooking, please just do not make barbecue
sauce with mustard ediforming.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well, you'll be happy to know that. I do have
somebodies that don't want any sauce on.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
It at all.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
So I do make some that are Yeah, I do
make some that are totally naked. And you can do
it how you want to do it. So just so
you know, it's really good. It's really good. Damn, it's
really good.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It's good. It's good without the mustard, it's good with
the mustard.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
But I will say the Steelers aren't good without the picket,
and then or I mean, yeah, they're not good without
the picket, but they are good with the picket, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Are you gonnaive to a stit update on what's happened in
the in season tournament, and so cares about that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I will say this though, don't look now, but Mike
Tomlins above five hundred or five hundred and above record,
I feel like it's in jeopardy because I think their
only winnable game the rest of the way is this
game on Thursday against New England. I don't think they're
winning at Indianapolis. I don't think they're beating Cincinnati at home.
With the way Jake Browning played, I.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Mean the first one of ten wins.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It is true. And then at Seattle at Baltimore to
close up the year, we could be looking at eight
and nine.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Did you see the stat?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Maybe you can correct me on this if I'm wrong
that New England's the first team to lose three straight
games holding opponents to ten points or less. Wow, it's
crazy if you think how bad offensive you have to be.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
You know, I mean, look, they'll be in the market
for a QB. You know, maybe Drake may or Caleb
Williams is a solution there. You know, maybe that's uh,
maybe that's the plan there in Foxborough. What do we
got Lee, Yeah, that is correct. I think since nineteen
thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Ooh, nineteenth, damn yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
I mean when you're throwing stats that involve that long ago,
I literally go back and think about, like, think about
how different the world was, Like, think about how different
things were in nineteen thirty eight compared to twenty twenty three,
and like how much football's changed since then. Yet no
one's ever accomplished that task since then.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Oh god, So yesterday, when we first talked about that
game Steelers Patriots, we mentioned it and I looked at
the point total. It was at thirty four and a half.
I think it's dropped down to thirty and a half
in like twenty four hours.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Take the under take.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
So the Steelers not only look like Iowa and uniform,
but they're looking like them offensively now as well too.
That's good, all right, So thirty and a half. You're
not tempted to just take the over just because is
it so low? Or do you have to go all
in on on these offenses being awful? Like at some point,
under man, I wonder what the team to If you
(25:11):
had to guess right now, would you guys say the
over under is for for the Patriots team total points
in that game. If you had a guess, right now,
team total and a half. Okay, let me just go
ahead and uh, we'll find this here, vamp for me,
just kind of discuss some more mustard, any sort of bar.
What about Brad Muster? Remember him, former running back for
(25:33):
the Bears. Didn't he play at Stanford back in the day.
I think he was a Stanford cardinal, Brad Muster. Believe
he was Muster Mustard Muster. All right, let's see we
have got all right, so team total touchdowns for the
Patriots at a half, We've got let's see blah blah
(25:54):
blah blah blah. Yeah, still efforting. I'll find this. I
will get all this information.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
For you can't found it.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Var.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
I just say, that's what I love about Johnnas. He
was literally on live radio asking question he.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Does because I thought I thought it was the opposite
of Colombo, you know, I thought that was like Columbo's stick.
I'm seeing ten and a half appears to be the number.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
All right, ten and half to get number though that
makes sense?
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, it is two pros and a cup of joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, it is LeVar Arrington Brady
Quinn Jonas Knox with you, by the way, your guys'
thoughts on the transfer portal and the craziness. What was
the number yesterday? I think over a thousand people entered
the transfer I didn't.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
See a thousand. I saw like five hundred at one point.
Maybe at the end of the day. It led into
that I would generally just say this man, well, no,
someone there's long term effects here, like down the road,
I'm saying ten twenty years down the road where we're
gonna see a lot of young people who bounced around
different schools in search of either you know, money or
(26:56):
trying to find an opportunity to play sports and then
come completely throwing their education to the wayside. And I
have no idea how that's going to impact them down
the road. As far as getting a job, their career,
all those things, I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And that's that's my concern is.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
I'm not saying that we need to like we're protecting
young people from themselves, but it kind of feels like
that a little bit, like at some point you don't
allow young people to do certain things at certain ages
because you don't feel like they're fully able to comprehend
and understand what's at stake, and humanity tends to always
(27:35):
struggle with, you know, doing what they want now instead
of what they want most and being disciplined enough to
you know, hold on to whatever it is for what
they want most down the road. So I just I
look at this more kind of from a thirty thousand
foot view and just wonder what this all looks like
in the future, because outside of a few top players,
(27:59):
a lot of these players end up kind of shuffling
around and ends up not working out. I mean, take,
for example, the quarterback and Notre Dame Tyler Buckner, who
used to be there, transferred to Bama last year. Get
to start doesn't work out. He's in the portal. He's
in the portal for lacrosse. He's literally now going to
switch sports, transfer somewhere else from Alabama for lacrosse, giving
(28:23):
up on football. Now that might come with a great
degree from a different school where he was at one
point maybe recruited for lacrosse. But I mean, I just
I worry for young people because they're being empowered right
now to do this stuff. And it's great in one aspect,
(28:44):
but I don't feel like we've provided them enough of
a support system in most cases, and I don't know
that they come from a background that has enough of
a support system to make sound decisions or decisions that
take into account what they want now but also what
they want most.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
In the future. If that makes sense, It makes a
lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
And it is.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
It is a very concerning commentary and narrative that's developing
with this transfer portal. It really is. Because it is
it's it's a mad dash for a pipe dream, and
I hate to put it that way, but that's what
it is. And a lot of these guys will be
(29:29):
disappointed in what it is that that they're doing.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
It's it's it's wild this time of the year. My
cell phone does not stop. This is this.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Is It's like every other moment, I'm getting a text
message from a family that that I've I've been been
with for a really long time, of a family that
I've met, a kid that I've met, and every bodies
looking for somebody to help them find the next landing space.
(30:05):
And my answer is always the same. And people really
need to pay attention and take heat to this word.
The grass is not always greener on the other side. Well,
what does that mean? What does that mean? As Q
just mentioned, get your education, get your education, and I
(30:26):
would urge, I would urge you. If you do not
have a landing place before you enter that transfer portal,
you have taken and made a terrible, terrible mistake. If
you do not have an idea or know that you
(30:47):
are wanted before you enter that transfer portal, you are
making a terrible mistake. One, you're taking away your opportunity
to continue in education and getting a what would be
perceived as a free education. You're you're free of bills
(31:07):
and owing for going to school. And two, you still
have a chance. You still have a chance. You are
on this team, and whether it looks like you will
never play for them or not, you still have a chance,
which is better than the chance you'd have enterning it
into the portal and not having a team, a coach,
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and an idea of where it is that you're going
to go. It's a transfer portal. You go in there
to transfer. You don't go in there as a free
agent market. You go in there to transfer because, for
what it's worth, that is indeed more likely the place
(31:51):
where coaches are going to look for players that they've
already recruited, which means they already have a relationship with
these guys. So not looking for you. If you don't
have that dialogue, that relationship prior to going into college,
it's a bad decision. And what I'm finding and seeing
with a lot of these kids is that they are
(32:14):
sitting at home. That's the horrible part of this story
that needs to probably at some point get reported. A
lot of these kids are sitting at home because they
do not find a landing place for leaving the school.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That they're at. And that's reality.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks with you.
All Right, it's coming up next here from the tire
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Speaker 2 (32:47):
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Speaker 1 (32:58):
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Speaker 5 (33:36):
Good thing.
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The guys are here to bring you in case you
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Speaker 1 (33:41):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
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Speaker 11 (33:46):
Good morning, everybody more to join us. Morning the bar,
Morning Brady, guys.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
In case you miss.
Speaker 11 (33:55):
That's right, Hey, hey LaVar, you were just talking about
your phone buzzing off the hook the last few days. Well,
you are in the same company as what it only
Hey Brady, You're in the same company as it only
Nick Saban, who says, after his phone number was leaked
to the public after the college football playoff rankings were announced,
(34:18):
that he's gotten more than two hundred and fifty calls
from anonymous FSU fans calling him every name in the book.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
What a group.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
I mean, look, I understand their frustration. I understand how
upset they are.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I really do.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
It's not his fault, you know. I mean, he did
what he's coached and paid to do. I mean, I
just I don't know. It stinks that people are like
that sometimes. I mean, look, even Kyle McCord, we talked
about it yesterday. He ended up putting his name in
the transfer portal. You should see some of the reactions
from Ohio State fans. You know, a kid who's only
(34:55):
lost one game as a starter, played banged up for
a portion of the sea, and yet people are just
it's brutal.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Nowadays social media.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
I think it's an awful social science experiments happening in
society right now.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Did just expose what we already know?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Didn't Jordan Travis suffer that injury against North Alabama? Thank
you Dad? Yes, So it's the entire state Alabama Florida
State fans probably can't stand right now, like all of
them hate their guys. It's too bad, and I feel
bad for Nick Saban and who who's Like, isn't it
a crime that you just leak somebody's phone number? Like,
(35:33):
that's not a crime.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I don't crime.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
It should be, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
What a scumbag move? Well what else we got, lee, guys?
Speaker 11 (35:43):
In case you missed this, a YouTuber was sentenced Monday
to six months in federal prison for obstruction of justice
after he deliberately crashed his single propeller plane in order
to bolster his social media presence. Trevor Daniel Jacob, thirty
years old, out of Lompoc, was on his way to
uh Mammoth Lakes flying his plane, and he later posted
a video on YouTube called I crashed my airplane. But
(36:06):
in the video you see him clearly jumping out of
the single propeller plane, even though he had told authorities
two days after the crash that it was engine failure
and that was the reason why he needed to bail
out of the plane. He was facing up to twenty
years in prison, but as settled now for six months.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
All right, Case number two for why social media will
be the bane of our existence as humans.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Well, I mean this is the kind of stupid stuff
that goes on.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
What a loser.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Well yeah, all for social media following.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
I mean, thank god there's no one else injured in
all this as he I mean, the whole thing was
staged and planned. I saw the video. You could tell
he was preparing the plane for some sort of you know,
crash or controlled crash, but either way, just so stupid.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Have you guys ever seen like behind the scenes of
a social media influencer when they're getting ready to shoot videos.
It's almost embarrassing. And Lee, you know who I'm talking about.
We don't need to air this out on the air,
but watching them go through the theatrics to get into character,
to pretend like what they're doing is in real time,
(37:10):
and I'm almost embarrassed for him that that's that's a
real gig and they make a fortune. I'd love to
know what this guy made on jumping out of a plane.
By the way, Lee, it's long poke And the only
reason I know that's the correct pronunciation is because they
beat us two years in a row in the playoffs.
My high school football career.
Speaker 11 (37:27):
I've heard it both ways my whole life, and I
never realized.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
That it was a.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Well, knock them out. I didn't play my problem. So
basically they basically yeah, they and there was no payday
at the end of this thing. Like social media influencers
make millions upon millions of dollars. And I almost wonder
if he's like, you know what, six months in federal prison.
What do you think the conversation?
Speaker 6 (37:53):
What the problem is by the way, with you saying
that is that's not true. There's like a select few
that do. It's not all of them. There's a ton
of competition.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Think about it.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
The barriers to entry to becoming a social media influence
are having a phone, and then from there it's doing
one thing that makes you go viral so you gain
a following, and then from there it's just continue to
try to find whatever works to build that following. Like
it's it's not true that all influencers are gonna be
making millions. There's only a select, a select few. And
(38:23):
that's the problem is you perpetuate like other people that
all these people can go out and be influencers to
make millions.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
That's not what they're making.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Like half the times they're like by a jet that's
on a runway that they're making look like they're flying somewhere.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Are you trying to What are you blaming me for this?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You're part of the problem. Damn you guys perpetuate these lies.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I only have like twelve followers on Instagram? What did
I do?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
You perpetuate these lies?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Do you think he when they're having conversations, he's next
to the guy in the same cell as him.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
He should have you should have compared the influencers behind
the scenes and the same thing you solve from the
film industry. Oh wow, Yeah, that's the type of fake
and preparedness there, you know, to get ready for death.
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