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January 1, 2026 41 mins

On this Thursday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup of Joe, Brian Noe and Geoff Schwartz fill in for the guys as they react to the Ohio State Buckeyes losing to the Miami Hurricanes in the College Football Playoffs. Plus, the guys also debate about the College Football playoff format and future ideas and more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome in the ball buffet, in full working order here
in twenty twenty six. Happy New Year, Hope twenty twenty
six is off to a fantastic start. And I'll tell
you what we have ball on the brain, mister Jeff Schwartz.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'll tell you this first though, before we get to
Miami's manly wins. Is a physical win.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:53):
New Year to you. Former offensive lineman for the Ducks
in the NFL for eight years. Had to maybe he
didn't have a dog in the fight last night, but
the offensive lineman in you had to love what you
saw from Miami Hurricanes.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Especially late in that game.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Some big runs and they score a touchdown to go
up ten and put the game away. The old linement
in you you can't turn your nose on that. I
don't care if you had heavy money on Ohio state
that He's just like, I can't help but love Miami
in this spot right here, right. You had to love
that last night.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
It was great. I made a only couple of wagers.
I made a correct score wager zero to zero and
in the first quarter, So that was nice. And then
I took Carson back to that interception, which did happened.
He play a really good football game the other way,
j Sandfield of interceptions. I can just imagine if they
penned Mario crystal Ball, Miami's head coach, at some point
in that final drive, he might have had ten pants, right.

(01:45):
I mean, that's how excited he was to win that game.
Riding the football. I mean, that's what Mario Cristaball does, right,
And in Mario this year, it has done a great
job sort of finally finally blending what he loves with
a little bit of more modern football. Right where you
saw that big third and four, We're gonna run a
screen pass right wide, receive a fun screen right like

(02:07):
those and if you notice on that play, you know,
they'll HOIU State defense element all fall flat on their
face because like they are so geared up to stop
the run, and those little things this year have been
into the difference. But this this game reinforced so many
things that I feel about college football. And look, I
know it's one game. It doesn't really it may or

(02:29):
may not matter today or next year. But it changed
the way I feel about a lot. Reinforced some feelings
I've had about college football the last couple of years,
and one of them that I think is really important
is that for playoff caliber teams, Brian, it feels a
lot more like we have to view their season the

(02:51):
way we view NFL teams, where it's not about how
you play in September and October, and that matters, right,
because you can only get in the playoffs if you
play well, but that the goals is to peak at
the end of the season. Right. Think about Miami season.
Think about where they're at now. They had played good
football for five weeks until they got in the playoffs, right,

(03:13):
and then just they survived if anything, as A and
M and they had their feet under them last night
and they came out roaring last night, right, I mean
they came out like full like just they were so
much more physical and they played so much faster and
they were ready to go in that game from the
first snap, and the Ohio State was not. So I
think that for playoff caliber teams, whether it's Ohio State

(03:36):
or Miami or Indiana now or Bama or Georgia or
even Texas to some extent, Notre Dame like, yes, you
have to win and lose that. You know, you have
to win enough to get in the postseason. But in
the NFL, we don't view losses in September October like
we don't care at all, Like we're not we don't
preview back in September they lost as we never say

(03:58):
that about any any player might be the reason that
cost them a playoff spot because they lose too many
games or cost them a like for the Rams, for example,
they don't have the one seed because they lost the Panthers.
You know, like we would talk about and that we're
We're never like, well that team lost several weeks ago
that if therefore that No, we never view it that way, right, Brian.
We always view it by how the team is playing.

(04:20):
And this is act the moment and college football don't.
We've never done that. I think we have to change
that now. I think it's time to start looking at
at teams that are playoff caliber, not everyone's playoff caliber. Right,
So we can't just be for everyone, but we look
at it through the lens of what are they doing
now and handicapped games based off of that rather than
the entire team. Because Ohio State had a great season

(04:41):
right the test of season, but one thing that a
lot of people talked about was, hey, guys, like they
might not play many good teams this year. Right, And
and that's my second point is that they we're getting
a point two where like the schedule, because these big
conferences have so many teams, you might have a year
you just don't play anyone. Texas, A and m had

(05:01):
this problem or they didn't play anybody, right, and they
played Miami finally got smoked. Ohio State played essentially two
and a half worthy teams. They'd beat Texas by seven.
I think Texas might beat them. It'd be different now,
of course, right, they played Michigan, who can't throw the
ball with a truefessional quarterback, and they played Indiana and

(05:22):
Miami for whatever you want they played there to day
like that's some tough I see games. It's just how
dose they just didn't really get tested all season and
you see the result of that last night. So schedule,
but more importantly, how do you feel about my viewing
in the lens of an NFL schedule?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Well, yeah, it makes sense. The first thing it makes
me think of is when Tom Brady won that first
Super Bowl with Tampa. Right, they weren't playing great football
all season long, but they won their final four regular
season games and they rode right into the playoffs and
won four playoff games. And it's like, it would be
silly to view whatever the record was, like nine and

(06:01):
eight or something. I'd have to go back and look
what their exact record was, but it wasn't anything sparkling.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
They might have had a.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Tie, well there were wildcard team, remember.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Their wildcard team, And it was just like, you know,
if you would have looked at their one loss record,
you'd be like, this team is not impressive at all.
But if you looked at them peaking at the right time,
you probably viewed them differently. And maybe there's some truth
to that. With Miami, where it was funny during the
game last night. They were like, hey, at one time
in this season, they were the number two team in

(06:30):
the country, and there were a lot of people saying, hey,
Miami might be the best team in college football here right,
like they've got NFL talent, real dudes in the trenches.
And then they lost two of three and we're like, yeah,
forget that, and we never recalibrated, We never revisited that, like, hey,
maybe they are what we thought they were in a
good way earlier in the season. It's just, you know,
Carson Beck bad. Carson Beck showed up and threw four

(06:53):
picks against Louisville, and we're just like, out of side,
out of mind. We didn't think of Miami like that again.
But to your point, they're playing their best football when
it matters most. And at least last night they were
that team that we thought, hey, maybe they are the
best team in college football.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
I tweeted out when they started the season well and
I thought they were the best team in the country.
And then after they lost to SMU all takes exposed
just like crushed me for that take, right, I thought,
go back and ask them how that takes going.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
It's not over yet, right, Like That's the thing is
like we're still playing football here.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
We still have a twelve team playoff.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
If they sneak into this thing, they've got real talent
and can make some noise. Now, I think this is, uh,
you know, a boys to men's situation, like the you know,
the end of the road, you know that whole. I
think we've come to the end of the road. I
think the Dogs win today, and I think the Dogs
win next time they play. So I don't think Miami
wins another game. But that was an outstanding performance last night.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
And I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
The bigger picture for me, Jeff is, you watch some
of these teams just take on the personality of their
head coach. We see this with Georgia, right Like Georgia's
personality is Kirby Smart's personality.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Georgia is a.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Team that just at sixty minutes, man, they are going
to battle you. They might look to like the Tennessee
game on the road. It looked bad for them. They're
trailing and they're just coming after you, and they're just
all right, next play, next play. Okay, we know we're trailing,
but let's see if we can make something happen. The
next play, Oh, we hit a guy, you know, hitting
getting a Willie Mays catch in the corner of the

(08:32):
end zone. Like all that helps, All right, let's try
to get a stop. We get to stop. They end
up winning that game. That's they just battle you. That's
a gritty team. And Kirby Smart is that guy you
go back to. I was just thinking this morning, remember
that great Rose Bowl performance against.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oklahoma and Georgia. Way was it came for the ed Ages. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, it was something that that was when they had
Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle at running back and that
one two combo and when Georgia won that game, Kirby
Smart is running on the field and he's like boom
and effort, like he's I'm like, he's Georgia. Georgia is him,
Like that's their personality is his personality And you saw

(09:16):
that last night with Miami. Like we can talk all
we want about Mario Christball and he's had some head
scratching moves over the years, going back to his days
at Oregon, how he misused some of his quarterbacks, like
Justin Herbert who's now an NFL stud. He was so
careful with Justin Herbert and then when they had the
game won against Georgia Tech, they just needed to kneel

(09:37):
on the football and he's like, let's.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Keep running it, and they fumbled and lost the game.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like he's had some ridiculous like head coaching decisions before,
but last night, that was about physicality, that was about violence.
He was preaching that and that is what they did.
I want to share just a little snippet. This was
after the first quarter on ESPN So good that.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I could just picture you watching this.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
And you're like, oh, yes, that is why I want
to hear from Mario well and I and he despises
his interviews, and this was an incredible Mario interaction.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
So good. Check this out on ESPN. ABC.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Coach, how would you describe the impact of a key Messador.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
And Ruben Bain Every single game they show.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Up full throttle all the.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Time to affect the line of scripts, the affect the quarterback.
We gotta do a better job. We're starting to do
some good things up front the trench, and we just
gotta be more physical and more violent.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
At the end there, you can we need more physicality,
more violence, and that's what they did. Man, that was
their whole whole approach. That's his whole approach. That's what
he is to a t and that's what they.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Were last night.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
They took the personality of Mario Christopaul and that's exactly
what they had to do to win that game.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Well, in the interview too, I think they asked him
something like yeah, like the second question they asked him,
and he just like looked he dead pained the guy
like yes, and it was like that. I was like
that the end of it. Look obviously very very happy
for Mario in this Miami program, right, Like they this
is why he was hired, right, former player had won

(11:12):
a championship there. He was hired for his physcality and
for his program building. It takes time, right, It's this
fourth year that's about when you should start seeing some
of these results. You know. They if you can rush
the passer, you're in every game. Man. An interception they
had was just a brilliant, like film study interception, right,
and that changed the entire game because Ohio State was

(11:34):
sort of not they were playing okay, they were driving
down the field and then you throw a really bad
interception and just deflated the entire team. Right now, people
are going to talk about this and we should bring
it up. The teams off of buy in the playoff
now are zero to five. Yeah, now it's fair. We
got we got to go back to last year. What

(11:55):
the scenario was exactly the right, This is what I
mentioned on social media last year. Three of the teams,
so two of the teams were big underdogs. Those don't count, Okay, that.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Was Boise State and Arizona State. Right that It was
the dumb set. It was the It was the NFL
playoff format. Basically, like they said, if you win your
conference in college football, you get a bye.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, and so like you had.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
The number nine team was the three seed, the number
twelve team was the four seed. Okay, like that matters, Okay,
and we'll get to the NFL because that's exactly what
the NFL still has but college football. After one year,
they were like, this is dumb. We're changing it, right,
but that directly impacts how those teams with the first
round by fared in the second round last season for.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Sure, Right, but now we have another team off of
Boye who didn't play well in Ohio States, and not
only didn't play well like didn't look at themselves for
entire half. I mean, like like the hitting, like the
physicality that Ohio State do. Their defense is so physical
and there was some big hits early on, but the
trench play Matt they got. They have not been pushed

(13:02):
around that the entire sea and they play good office
squads not pushed around that all season. And offensively just
no rhythm whatsoever. It took them a half to gain,
which is really what it does, right if you're off
for a month, it takes about a half to get
into rhythm. And I thought that made played a big difference.
It is rich so because Oregon fans last year obviously
played Ohio State in the Rose Bowl off a month rest,
and we said like, hey, you know, I mean, you know,

(13:23):
Oregon probably would have lost, but it makes I think
we kind of made a difference. Oregon didn't playing it
for a month at Ohio State fans just like mocked
us endlessly. Now or like the bye, the bye, and
I do and I do wonder like today when you
start talking about the Oregon Tech Texas Tech game, this
game that's a close game right by spread. Organ coaches

(13:43):
this week have talked a lot about this year's schedule
being so much better than last year for them, where
they got to have a home playoff game against James Madison,
they got to a tune up game essentially call what
is a tune up game? Right? And how how much
better they're prepared for this game today because of the

(14:05):
schedule and the difference in it this year where they
got to play a game, they got to practice a
little differently, got prepared a little bit differently. And how
how that is made this they think their preparation for
tech Tech that much better. And if tech Tech comes
out slow today, I do wonder if people start talking
about like, yeah, the adviser done well.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I mean, it's one of those things until it changes.
This is what we know, you know, as far as
where we are right now, these teams that had a
first round by they are zero to five in the
second round. And there was a little bit to that
last night, right like right away, you know, Miami is
taking it to Ohio State. Ohio State is not crisp.

(14:46):
They're not executing well. They got shut out in the
first half. Right, Like, if if Ohio State plays the
first round, if they have a first round game, maybe
they look a lot better last night. Like they did
look little bit sluggish. They did look a little bit
uh just not crisp. They just were not on point.
And this was the part, the part that you were

(15:07):
talking about, Jeff, you like this better. At the end
of the first quarter with Chrystal ball.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
What what why are you equipped to win the rock fight?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was just like, all right, coach cool, thanks back
up to you guys.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
It was like the wrong question asked Mario. It was
very It was very It was more its face, I
guess face what is what? What are you asking me?
Why are we why are you asking me this question? Yeah,
those those interviews continue to be very worth our time.
But uh, look it was such a good win for
the program for Mario last night. You know, I didy

(15:42):
win a championship last season. But Ohio State fans are
taking this. They're taking it hard rough. I mean, look,
they were the favorite to win the championship again this season.
You have a year when you have all these offensive
all these offensive weapons, right and Tates and you have
and you have Smith and Saying, and you figure that
those will carry you did last year to a championship.
Your defense, you're the defense this year. Might be more

(16:06):
talent than the defense they had last season. It's like,
it's a dude, I watched the Indiana offense or so,
how's the defensive buddy the house? The defensive linemen were
terrorizing Indiana's offense live. It's good offensive line that did
not look at the same Ohio State defensive line last night.
Part of it was not even Notre Dame. Notre dame.
I mean, Miami had the ability to run right at them,

(16:29):
which a lot of teams don't. And I think that's
just a physicality check. And how's they just a lot
of teams just can't run the ball right at them.
They weren't used to that feeling of double teams and
running the ball vertically right at the right in their face.
And they just never really, it never got better throughout
the game. They just never were comfortable as a defensive
line the entire game.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Man, you would have thought you wouldn't have even recognized
me yesterday. You know, I am like screaming, I'm going nuts,
like rootings for Miami. It really wasn't rooting for Miami
as much as it was rooting for myself, to be right.
I don't know about you Jeff, But I root for
me to be right.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's what that's what.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I was so right about Ohio State being overrated, Like
you give Miami full credit for that win. Okay, they
played a great game last night. They're so physical. We
know what they did against Ohio State. But the way
Ohio State has been talked about this season was never correct.
Like Ohio State was talked about in such glowing terms like.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh my gosh, Ohio State. Their defense, how do you
even think about scoring on them? They're just all unbelievable,
and it's.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Like they haven't played anybody. They beat Texas by seven
at home. They barely beat Texas, a team that gets
clowned seemingly by everybody all season long, and then we
turn around and it's like, well, Ohio State beat them.
It's like they beat Texas by seven at home, all right,
that's one of arch Manning's like only handful of starts
in college football at the time.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And then they got beaten by Indiana in the Big
Ten championship game. That's it. That's the resume.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
The rest of it is Wisconsin and this team in
this run of the mill Big that's it. Like they
have great, great talent, but they were never that juggernaut
team that many made them out to be. And that's
not to say I think they suck. You know, people
struggle with overrated. All overrated means is their reputation is
greater than the reality, and that's exactly what they were

(18:32):
all season long.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Their reputation was oh, Ohio State, Oh my gosh, this
dam And it's like the reality wasn't that.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
They were not that same squad this season, And I
think a lot of it was tied to last season
where they wanted all they got hot at the right time,
and even if you look at that, I'm not taking
anything away from last season, but as it applies to
this season, right yet, you were all world against Tennessee,
a flawed team in the first round. You blew the

(19:01):
doors off the Ducks, which was very impressive. But then
you survive against Quinn Viewers and Texas. That's a close game.
You survived. He held on for dear life against Notre Dame,
like it was that enough for you to get the
benefit of the doubt all across the board this season, No,
it wasn't. So I thought they were ripe for the
picking and it was sweet to see that come to

(19:22):
fruition last night. That was a that was a beautiful
display for yours truly. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Jeff I had said this week. I thought the game
would be UH close, Butjase would win. On my podcast,
I mean to do it with Chris Filika the Bear,
and he's a Miami grad and he's been pretty right
about Miami this year, and he came on like boastfully,
it was like, Miami's gonna win this game, and people

(19:48):
people crushed him on social media, and of course they
never came back to say you were right.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
That's weird how that works.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Yeah, right, like you make you make a prediction and
ends up being right. Look, Miami, I think I don't think.
I know, you know, physicality wins football games. And me
Carson back through for like one hundred and thirty yards,
like it was.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
It just ran it man fifty that's all you need.
You're good.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
That turnover makes such a big difference, right it was
in Ohio State failed in the red zone a couple
of times, which was their problem against against uh in
the enda too was poor red zone. You know, they
failed in the red zone, and they failed in the
red zone again sight, they had a miss field goal
that the interception like those are things you can't do
in playoff games and you're looking looking forward today like
Texas Tech is one of the worst teams in the

(20:31):
red zone in the country. They can't. They can't score touchdowns.
That that matters, and you have to be able to
score touchdowns when you get them. You if you'll go
every now and then, it's fine, But you can't have
a seven point swing like that. You can't throw an
interception that least is Miami seven points when you're in
your own red.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Zone, right, no doubt about that.

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You're just fired up right there, you know.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
I think that that flight home yesterday must have been
just the best. I'm a text. I know their offensive
line coach very well. I'm gonna I wonder if he's
awake right now. I bet he's awakeste I bet they're
all ways.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
They might not have gone to sleep. Man, that was
compliments of Hurricanes Radio Network. But man, you think about
that pick six and really what it meant for the
second half, Like, imagine, scenario is flipped, it's turned around.
If you know, imagine if Ohio State not only avoids
the pick six but puts points on the board on
that drive.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
You know, we're talking to like a seven to three
game at worst. You know.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
So that was a massive play, as it turns out,
in the second half and in that game, and you.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Never know what happens.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
If I thought watching that play live, because I can't
remember who was putting heat on the quarterback. It might
have been Bain Junior, I'm not sure, but one of
the the DNS kind of jumped it and it looked
like it was going to be a negative play and
it would have been their second negative play forced in
a row. And then the dB just jumped it, and

(25:46):
I'm like, oh, that's a bad idea for saying to
throw that ball.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
And sure enough, well it was a design. It was
like a wide receiver screen like it was designed to
throw the ball. So that's why the ball got thrown
because that that was like, that was the play. It
was like an r P O screen type of thing.
And so that to me is like a film study interception, right,
like seeing that on film and he was ready to go.
So look that game again, I mean, you know it

(26:12):
is it boiled down to the physicality, right, and one
team just beat up the other team in the trenches.
And that's Look, there are many reasons to win football games.
One of them is just beating up your opponents. And
that's like there's and I look, I loved it last night,
you know, I think also to you know, I know, Brian,
you want your Irish in the in the in the

(26:33):
in the postseason. But I have a feeling the playoff
committee was like see see see we got it right now.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Now they're not going to feel as good when Bama
gets crushed today, but you know that was that was
a w for them last night.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
The thing that's very simple, if you have a playoff,
you have to include all the teams that can win
and the already was a team that could have won
the championship this season.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Absolutely, you can't include.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
You cannot have two G five teams in and take
the spot from Notre Dame. You know. The argument is
is always, well, the tournament has thirty one at large
as thirty one eight teams, right, thirty one on a
mat qualifiers, that's ay from.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
A college football has got twelve spots, that's it, right.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
But the difference, Brian, is that in tournam everyone could
win a championship is in the tournament already, Like there's
no they're all in, that's right. So yeah, so the
spot you're taking is from an eleven seed ranked thirteenth
ACC member. You're like, they don't write, they don't be
in the tournament. Notre Dame was a team that could
win a championship and they were out of the tournament.

(27:38):
And so that's everyone's complaints, right.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So that's the question. It leads to, do you eliminate
all G five's?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Is that what you would like to see is that
the short syndicate official model going forward?

Speaker 4 (27:50):
I don't know, because I think you could have this
year if you would have had eleven eleven teams in,
which would have been including Notre Dame and two Lane.
There's no argument to be made from anybody like like that.
Vanner Bill can argue, sure, and and and know Texas
we want to be in, but like you really don't
have a great argument.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
And so I don't lose to Florida. You've got three
losses like hit the road.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Man, right, yeah, And so that would have been I
think the best solution or the best answer just would
have been, okay, keep it at keep it as it is,
but that you just have one G five team. And
to be fair, looked, last year, Boise State was a
top fifteen team the entire season. Remember they went to
Oregon and lost by three and organ two special team
touchdowns to to win that game. Jam you and two

(28:34):
Lane were not top five teams all season, I mean
tough fifteens all season. Like so to me, like that's
just a big difference, right. And so when you have
a situation where you leave out a noted aim team
that could win a champion and they were the fourth
best odds the legitimate good team. Are they gonna win?
I don't know, but they weren't even in the dance.
They weren't even in the dance, and so I'm sure
the committee was happy that the Miami won last night

(28:55):
because they can prove the CE see we got it right.
But in the end they they didn't they get it right.
Iris should have been in over JMU. That would have
been the answer, and it didn't happen. Hopefully it correct
itself heading in the next season.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
You know, it's funny because just for a second, with
Notre Dame being promised a playoff spot if they're in
the top twelve, if they're just ranked in the top twelve,
they're promised a playoff spot, and I think it's garbage.
As me from I'm from South Bend, I lead Notre
Dame football.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's such garbage.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Any automatic spots, they earn your spot, whether it's the
Big Ten, you shouldn't be promised four spots or the
SEC promised four spots.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
No matter what.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Maybe there's a year where you don't have a fourth
team that deserves it, you shouldn't be promised anything. Same
thing goes for Notre Dame. If you're in the top
twelve this season, that shouldn't be promised. But the point
I'm trying to make is we only look at that
from one angle where it's like, hey, why would you
schedule Notre Dame going forward? If you're USC? For instance? Right, Okay,

(30:00):
Notre Dame at the end of the season. USC is
ranked number eleven, Notre Dame is ranked number twelve. Notre
Dame's automatically in. That could mean you're out, right, so
why would your schedule them? That's a good argument, but
that's the only way it gets looked at. The other
way is what you're talking about for this year, it
would mean no JMU, right, I mean Notre Dame is
in there, and well, I guess they still technically would

(30:24):
have gotten in, just based on the way the setup is,
it would have meant no Miami.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
How crazy is that?

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Based on what we saw last night, no Miami would
have been there, and that's the head to head win
and they're phased out. If you have Bama in, then
Miami is out. If Notre Dame is automatically in, that's
crazy too.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
So the automatic qualifier discussion with the big tem proposal
White they have four aqs for sec A Big ten, right,
that's their proposal for like the twenty fourteen playoff ORMs
whatever it is. And their argument, Brian, is that if
you have auto that qualifiers, that means that your conference

(31:04):
is essentially deciding who goes your conference play is not
the committee, right, So if you do if you do
it that way, like you say, the four Big ten teams,
the four six teams, it takes the decision out of
the committee's hands. It just and looks at conference record
and conference results. So I understand from that perspective of
we just want the conference results to matter more than
what the committee thinks for every team. So I get that.

(31:26):
But your point about in a given year there might
be six Big ten teams or some of these teams
that that that deserve to go. Look, in the end,
though I've said the same thing all the time, the
playoff is about finding a champion. We don't need teams
twelve through sixteen even in this is they're not winning
a championship. And if you expand it, fine, you're expanding

(31:48):
it because you just want the revenue from more playoff games.
You're not expanding it to actually look fuck, okay, look
bowl game results don't matter. I think we love talking.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
Oh, the Big Ten is in the SEC states, so
many yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
It doesn't mean anything. But like watching Vandy who had
most of most of their whole team yestery, their tight
end was out, Like they're not a playoff team. No,
like they're a playoff team. Texas is not a playoff team,
even they're playing better. I'm like, I'm not disagree with that.
It's just not a playoff team. And so the expanding
is only is only to either be nice however gets

(32:26):
in it's a participation tournament or for revenue, right, or
maybe people don't think the balls matter. I'll tell you what, man,
as the Bulls have gotten better. Right at this time
of the year, we have better teams playing bowl games.
Guess what the competition has been better. Brian Like, yes,
Southern miss And and law Tech. I'm sorry those two
schools are bringing you guys up, Like, yeah, that ball
game is not gonna be good. It's two seven to

(32:46):
five teams, but.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Like they're going after each other's next, you know, like
they are, but it's not good football.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I tweet this out the other day at Jeff Schwartz.
When you I don't watch a ton of Sun Belt
football or America in football. I watched, I used to
watch you know, Memphis and North Texas like some of
the better teams. There's a reason why the team is
seven and five. If you watch their seven and five
bowl game, you know, like like you can you see
why they're seven and five, Like, oh, that makes sense.
But the better, the better teams are starting to play

(33:16):
in bowl games and it's a good football game because
they're good football teams like Georgia Tech, and and and
and BAU was a great bowl game TCU USC. They're
so value I'm used so value in bowl games. Yeah,
if you can get through sort of the beginning of
the bowl season and they're going away now that being
wrapped into a bigger playoff. But I'm not one of
the people the things we need to explain the playoffs.

(33:37):
Twelve is good. If we just put noted a man
like you should have, then you would have had the
eleven best teams in the country playing, and that would
have solved all the all the problems with should we
expand should we not expand? Now the buye is you
we'll see how the team's playing off off of buy
I wonder if that gets eradicated to where we go
to sixteen teams and no buys right, But it does
feel like they're gonna have to be that big of

(33:58):
adjustment if you just let note name in the post
using in the first place.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Well, that's the thing is if it's if it's up
to me, if college football, if the committee they're like, hey, Brian,
you get any ideas for what the format should look like,
I've got, I'd be like, yeah, I do. I have
a couple ideas that you should implement this immediately.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I would keep it at twelve teams. I think it's
the right number.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Now they're gonna do what you just said right there, Jeff,
They're going to move it to sixteen teams.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
It means more money, more revenue, more this more that
they're not going to turn their nose on more. That's
just what they do. I would keep it at twelve.
I think it's the right number. You have a quality field.
The regular season means a lot, you know, there's a
lot writing on these games. You're not you know, opening
it up a little bit more and watering it down
just a little bit more. I think twelve is the

(34:44):
right number. Now, what I also would do, I would
never have automatic spots. You're not guaranteed anything Big ten.
You're not guaranteed anything. SEC You're not guaranteed anything.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
You earn it right, Like no automatic spots. And the
last thing I would do. It's something that your coach
Dan Landing was talking about it Oregon. I give him
a lot of credit. I've been talking about this for
a long time. All home games except the championship game.
Just like the NFL, everybody plays a home game until
we get to the super Bowl. College football should do
the same thing. Everything should be a home game until

(35:17):
we get to the championship game. I'd have it at
the Rose Bowl every single year. Oh what about the
Orange Bowl? Screw the Orange Bowl? What about the Fiesta?
I don't care about the Fiesta. To get it out
of here. It's not good for college football, are you
telling me? Like, as great as the atmosphere was last night,
it's way better if that's in the shoe and Miami
goes in there and takes them down in their own crip.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
That is way better for college football.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
The whole thing feels like kind of sterile, right, Like,
it doesn't feel like it's it feels again, it feels
more NFL, right where you have these neutrals. It feels
like Super Bowls, right, like neutral site game. Yeah, it
doesn't kind of have the feel I think of to
your point of of like a home like you should
if you're the two seed, you should have a home
playoff game like you has the NFL. You be like, uh, Patriots,

(36:02):
sorry you went for you the two to give.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Thee You're in the f tempe Real, what come on?

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Dan Lanning also suggested yesterday that college football should play
on only Saturdays and the season should basically the playoffs
would just be in the month of December, which is
guess what the NFL does their playoffs in five weeks
The culgeable does not.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's including a bye week, right, yeah, sure, and.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
They collag football plays their their last regus the week
at Fasgiving and then they have championship weekend and then
they don't play for twenty five days twenty six days
for the teams off a bye to wonder if that's
something that that's considered sort of or look, you start
the season earlier, earlier, should and you give yourself a
little bit of breathing room because you know again like and.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
That helps the transfer window.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
We got the portal opening tomorrow until the sixteenth.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah tomorrow, Yes, yeah, you've got You've got.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Free agency during your playoff run. It's so dumb, like
they would never have NFL free agency during the NFL point.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Does not have a starter, But we have like a
significant backup on our defense for one of our safety
in the border today not playing like that's actually like
out of all the losses, Like that's a pretty big
deal for us. We don't have most people have a
backup safety, like we're gonna play a true freshman. I
think today playing us first STAPs of the season is
our backup safety. Not great?

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, uh all right, coming up next, Now, we did
have miked up footage a few years ago. Remember Sam
Darnold with the Jets where he's like I'm seeing ghosts.
That was a big deal. There was something that a
college football player said yesterday. It's not the same message,
but the impact is I think pretty significant. We'll share
that with you. Coming up, he's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian No.

(37:49):
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(38:36):
Russell Westbrook. Yesterday when I was watching the cheese It Bowl.
We had the Citrus Bowl going on. Texas beat Michigan
by two touchdowns. They won forty one to twenty seven.
That's right, Lorena, delicious cheese its. But Russell Westbrook bet
in the NBA for a long time.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
I love chees its. I totally forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, very smart woman right there. How can you not?

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Russell Westbrook once said, I've been blessed with the unique
ability be to not give a f right.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Oh, and that's what I that's what I.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Remembered yesterday seeing Arch manning on the bench and they
just showed him on camera and he goes, I'm just
gonna stop giving an f right.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I'm not gonna stop giving a bleep.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
And that was great, Jeff, because look, it's not like
he's saying I'm going to throw five interceptions. What do
I care. What he's saying is, I'm not gonna put
handcuffs on myself. You know, I'm not gonna like think, oh,
if I throw this ball, it might get intercepted or
something bad might have. That's what he's saying. He's like,
I'm not gonna worry about what could go wrong. I'm

(39:38):
gonna play free. That's what he's saying. And he played
really well through for over two hundred and twenty yards,
rushed for one hundred and fifty five yards and two touchdowns.
That was a really good performance by Arch. But that's
what he's saying. He's like, I'm not gonna put handcuffs
on myself. I'm gonna play free. And you could see
it yesterday in that Bowl game.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
If Arch decided to go out to the NFL, he'd
be a top five pick in this draft.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Absolutely he would.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
And people have to come a gross with that because
Cisco Mendoza's going one. Dante mor is not declared. I
hope he comes back. I mean I think he should,
but there's no guaranteed hes going to and Mendoza comes
out of the Jets draft to him like he I mean, Mendoza,
if Art comes out of the Jets, he's joined the
top five. He just he is, and he has all
the physical gifts. He started to slow this year, a

(40:24):
lot of pressure on him, and he played much better
down the stretch, and he'll go into next season as
the Heisman favorite, as a favorite to go number one
overall again like he might have been this year if
he actually came out, and he'll The improvement we saw
last year or this year was super impressive, and you
have to give credit to him for sticking with it.
And I'm glad he said I saw that too, mouthing
that like that was good for him. I think he

(40:46):
needs the attitude.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yeah, And that's the thing, man, is we care so impatient,
you know, like, oh yeah, give it time, give it
a little bit of time, you know. I hear all
these people talking about Shador Sanders and look at the
advanced stats and it's like, give it a little bit
of time.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Like he's an NFL rookie, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Like the same thing with arch and College where that
first started against Ohio State. They only scored seven points
and it's like, oh my gosh, this guy's supposed to
be the second Cubig and he's.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
A heights been favorite.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
It's like guys settled down, like wipe the foam away
from your mouth, Like just give it a little bit
of time and see what it looks like.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
It does takes a little bit of time. I'll tell
you what time is on our side. When we look
at these college football playoff games. We've got three of them.
I know Jeff has one circled in particular. We will
get to that one coming up next
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