February 14, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz fill in for the guys and talk about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets going there separate ways and possible landing spots for Aaron Rodgers + Kellan Moore being announced the Saints head coach.
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Speaker 4 (00:58):
Good morning to you, Jeff Schwartz.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I'll tell you what, man, I don't know how you're
gonna make it through this show, and I don't know
through this year. That might be a little too far,
But how about the jets On the eve of Valentine's
Day yesterday saying Aaron Rodgers. We're moving on. Man, we
can't do this anymore. They go their separate ways on
Valentine's Day, Eve, Huh what ting right there?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
It really is upsetting and it really takes away from
the day. I mean, I think that, you know, you
want to have a day of love and celebration today,
you know, and unfortunately we can't do that. Now we
can actually celebrate that Aaron Rodgers is no longer employed
by the Jets. I think the Jets fans are celebrating
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this this morning, right, They're super pumped that they don't
have Aaron Rodgers, the quarterbaber. That has been a disaster,
and Brian looked this was going to happen. It's just
Aaron Glenn was hired. It was gonna happen. When when
when Robert Sala was fired. I don't know about you.
I don't know what you thought. I guess when Aaron
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Rodgers was traded. I don't know if we were doing
radio that's spring together. But I thought it wouldn't be
as fruitful as they hoped it would be. I'm not
sure I thought it'd be as bad as it was.
I mean, this has been all time disaster. Trade for
the Jets. There's no other way around it. He gets
hurt on the first series of the first game in
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twenty twenty three, and then last year was a dumpster fire.
And even I think the people that thought it would
go poorly never thought I'd go this bad. People thought
it was it would go well or too optimistic in life,
and they need to kind of take it down a second.
But I just never thought it would be this bad.
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And I think that moving forward, the most interesting part
to me is is Aaron Rodgers done the Jets parts? Boring?
To me? I other find another quarterback or whatever. I mean.
The Jets have been a relevant for twelve years now.
I don't. To me, that's not the fun story here.
I think Aaron Glenn will be fine as a coach.
I love this introjunctory press conference. But then again, the
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coaches who have the best press conference to start seemed
to be the ones that always stink, are the ones
that we think, like, oh, what a what a weird
press conference? DIXIIRONI had? I mean super Bowl champion? Right?
Dan Campbell's by the kneecaps always don't the lines to
make them better? Right? So press conference means nothing to me,
But to me, what happens to Aaron Rodgers Now he's
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most fasting. Sorry by way my voice. I you know,
when you spend six days in New Orleans, you come
back with sickness most often. That's just I think that's
a natural rule for traveling somewhere like that for six days. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You mentioned the Aaron Glenn introductory press conference, and this
is probably the most memorable part. Here's a here's Aaron Glenn,
former Jets player now current Jets head coach.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Here you go, put your seat bus on to get
ready for the right Listen.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
There are going to be some challenges, but what challenges
becomes opportunity gets opportunity.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
But here's what I do know.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
We're the freaking New York Jets. We're billfit the.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I love the freaking New York Jets. We're built for
this bleep over here.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I feel like if you're a Jets fan, you probably
you probably love that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, yeah, I mean what fan base doesn't love someone
saying we're built for this.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Huh uh?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But man, this this Jets fan base, they've been through it.
How many years we're talking about fourteen years since they've
been in the playoffs. It's the longest trout. Yeah, Like
I get it, Jeff. Where if you're you're the new
guy in town. Yeah, and that's Aaron Glenn. Look, it's
hard to be known as all right, we got the
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new he's the sheriff. Now you know, we got our
new head coach in town. If Aaron Rodgers is your
quarterback and he's sort of playing by his own rules, right, like,
that doesn't match.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No. No, Look, when you have a new coach, you
typically will pair the new coach, oftentimes with the new
general manager, right. That happens often, and then they want
their own quarterback. So if you notice, and I know
the story came out yesterday, it's not it's not accurate,
But there was a story that Trevor Lawrence for Jacksonville
was was being shopped, which seems impossible when you think
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about because they don't even have a general manager. So
I'm not sure how they can shop a quarterback. But
it makes sense in the in the in the essence
that most often coaches want their own guys at quarterback,
and that includes Aaron Rodgers not being there because they
want their own voice, they want their own message, and
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there's No, there's no emotional attachment to having a guy
aaronger roster, especially when he's not good. Right Like, if
in the to me we were to retire, of course
you would keep Mahomes, But Aaron Rodgers wasn't good last year,
and there's no reason to keep a guy like that,
who is as outspoken as he is if he's not
going to help you win football games. So they want
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their own guys. So just from like that base level,
this made sense for them to want to get rid
of Aaron Rodgers. Then you add on to it sort
of the noise around him, because he's a noisy player.
He's on you know, he's on media, and some of
the I mean, are we gonna call them conspiracy theories?
I don't know what I'm gonna call it that alternative
methods of thinking about life. You know, you some people
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believe in that stuf. I don't want I don't want
to you know, I don't want to come here this
morning and say that. You know that you can't believe
what you want on this on this day of love.
But they are alternative methods to life. Okay, when all
those things are all together at once, you know, and
he's not good, you're gonna get rid of them, So
then you get rid of Rodgers. Is not a surprise
at all. I did find interesting that it came out
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before they were looking to fire him, essentially right, that
there was no McAfee allowed. Yeah, which is a a
way to sort of regain the narrative and set some
boundaries for your franchise. It's hard, I think when you're
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a new coach and you're trying to set the culture
for your team and your quarterback is on a national
program every Tuesday talking about your team and sort of
the message is coming from his mouth, not from the
team's mouth. That makes sense. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong
with Eron Rodgers doing that. I mean, lots of players
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have their own podcasts. But look, man, I've made this argument.
I don't know if to you, I think we should
have less players with podcasts. I think sometimes that it
really hurts not the image is the wrong word, but
like there are some of these players say things that
I think are just better kept to themselves while they're
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playing football, and I think the podcast that some of
these guys do are a detriment to not their image,
but just their team. It's okay, just to like not
have anything to say while you're playing, like you don't
have to have a podcast. And that's what the Jets
are telling Rodgers, like, hey man, let's keep everything in house.
Let's we're gonna reset the message. It's gonna be our message.
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And I didn't see much outrage for it. I think
people just don't like Aaron Rodgers on the internet. But
I did financing that that leaked out well before they
were gonna cut him, which I think we all thought
was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Anyways, Well, yeah, and it just it shows you how
much it is regressed. You know, it's just not it's
not one of these deals where who cares if he's
putting up these huge numbers if he's going on the
Pat McAfee show. Do you think the Jets or anything
would really care if he's putting up you know, these
numbers are very productive.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
There's just no way. But now that there's a new
regime and it's like.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Hey, how about less trips to Egypt right before the
season and uh, less mcaffee season.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
So they want him to to take you know, you know,
beat all the mandatory things. I'm gonna tell you, I
know we covered this, Like I say at the time
that I didn't know how it manifests itself, but I
thought missing mandatory mini camp was not great time. I
(09:18):
believe I said that, right, And the pushback I got
was for those who don't don't remember or at the
end of at the end of the off season program
for the NFL, which is voluntary and most guys go,
there's a mandatory mini camp. Right. It's the same weekend
every single season for every single team, and it's the
one mandatory event you have to be at. And it's
sort of like a dress rehearsal for trading camp. Right,
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it's all the playbook quickly again and you know, no
pads or on. I mean, it's low key. It's most
you know, most teams cancel the final day of a
mini camp. But the fact is is that it's like
a mandatory thing, right. You know it's coming and everyone,
no matter what your officers sort of program is for yourself,
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everyone's there. It's mandatory, like you just show up. Your
retire team's there for two or three days and you
get to work in and you get ready for trading camp.
And Rogers didn't show up. He was in Egypt for
whatever thing he was doing. And you know, I get
I said at the time, I thought that that's not really,
in my opinion, a great way to show that you're
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a leader of a team when you can't show up
to a mandatory event. And the pushback I got was, well,
he was at other stuff. I don't I don't care, Brian,
because the thing that he had to be at he
wasn't at. So like, yeah, he was at the other
stuff that was voluntary, but the one thing on your
calendar you had to be at, he chose to be
in Egypt doing whatever he does. And that to me
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just kind of stood out as like a selfish move right,
And again I didn't know how it manifest itself, Like
I didn't know that it would end up basically being
a disaster this season. But I think part of that, again,
that one event him not showing up is sort of
the idea that he's just not fully in. It's not
fully committed because the one thing you had to be
at he wasn't at. And whatever excuse you want to get,
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he gave the team notice, who cares he wasn't with
his teammates in the time that they expect him to
be there, and I know they said it was fine,
but it's it's not fine, Brian, I think, and I
think it ended up just kind of showing itself this
season with his play and they just it's not all in, right,
it's not all in with the Jets, And you know
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the Jets cutting him was a pretty easy decision.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, Well, now you spin it forward to what now
is there a team that is.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
We could use some Aaron Rodgers going forward here?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Is that the Raiders?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But my thing is why would Aaron Rodgers say yes
to the Raiders?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Like it would just be for money and maybe notoriety
to not retire and go on a show here or there,
and it's better for him if he's an active quarterback
instead of retired that. I mean, where do you think
the Raiders are going with Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback?
They're going nowhere? And he would know that. So what
happens from here on out is very interesting to me.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
It is I wonder if if RFK has a spot
for him and is a his cabinet. I don't know
if he gets a cabinet as a new job, but
you hang out with with with with RFK. I don't
look Rogers at a point in his career where he's
probably not an option as a veteran backup somewhere like
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no one's going to bring them to mentor anyone, right,
I don't know. So you got to think that he
wants to start, And the question is, of course, like
where would that be? Who really had who really gives
an opportunity for him a start? And that makes sense, right,
that to make sense, and the Raiders have come to
mind right as maybe a team that makes sense for him.
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But to your point, it's the question is like why,
I'll give you a why. I think I have a
why for this. Pete Carroll is their new coach, and
they might not draft the quarterback this season. It's not
a great quarterback year. And I can make the case
that the Raiders are so void of talent that just
they need good football players and four going a quarter
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four going quarterback this year in lieu of just a
good football player to make their roster better might be
the best way to treat the draft, Brian, And so
that leaves them without a quarterback. I mean, you can
roll back it, don't Connell, if you'd like, I guess,
but I'm not sure that that's really like a smart option.
So Aaron Rodgers, you bring them in for a season.
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Pete Carroll's a little wacky too, you know, both whacky together,
and you know it's kind of like what wacky dudes
and whatnot. And you have a year where just Rogers
is a veteran on your team. It's a one year deal.
He's better than nothing, right, He's better than no quarterback
on the roster, And that's how this goes for him.
Like that, I can see that sort of being a
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justification for one year for Rogers with with Pete character
sort of needing somebody to just be an adult. I
mean if we would call that in the room, you know,
and just having an option better than a no Connell,
which Rogers is by the way, I mean we wight
not think Rogers any could. So that's the case for
him there. That's the only team, like, that's the only
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team you know, Minnesota, no right, Minnesota needs to play.
McCarthy us has come up before.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
What do you think about that? Little Tomlin and Rogers?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
That doesn't feel like a good personality fit.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I'm not gonna lie there.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, I mean, I guess Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. We thought about
Pittsburgh when at some point they have to just go
for it and they need to go get themselves a
quarterback like something of the future, just make a move,
stops being in the middle of everything. So I don't
know what Pittsburgh feels like. Not not a great option, Brian.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Uh, it doesn't to me either, But no, I could
see them. It would be the ultimate indictment on the
quarterbacks that they have. Because listen, you might not be
a big Russell Wilson fan, and I get it, but
Russell Wilson has many more years than Aaron Rodgers does.
And if they're just like, yeah, let's just let's take
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the one year over the multiple years, that would tell
you all you need to know about how they feel
about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Wells is not good. It's it's you know, fans have
a hard time just being like, yeah, that player is
not good anymore. And Russell Wilson is not good and
it's okay, just like it's okay to say that he's fine.
I mean, is he the worst quarterback in the NFL? Nope,
He's not good anymore. Right, And Rogers I mean I
think I think Rogers is better. I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Wow, that's that's even damning for Rogers too, you know, I.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Would say Rogers, it's just there's just so many other
thing with Rogers, it's just you know, so many sort
of feels like other things that take up his mind,
which again, dude, players have. It's it's okay to outside interest,
but again, players have podcasts. I mean, one of the
best players in the world is dating Taylor Swift. I mean,
you can have other interests outside of football, but it
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seems like again those interest if they interfere with you know,
your job, that's where again, teams don't like those things,
so that that will play a role in determining I
think who wants Aaron Rodgers Man.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
We got a lot to do on this show, Jeff,
I'm looking forward to it. We have a a Valentine's
Day theme. Oh that applies directly to the sports world.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
How could we overlook love on a day like today?
We we can't can't do that at all, So that
will be uh highlighted here today. Absolutely, yes, I know
when I think that's right, When I think big love guy,
I immediately think Jeff Schwartz right, how.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
If it was a day of Hater eight That's where.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I shine, Absolutely the opposite.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Of Valentine's Day. That's why I'm I am shine right there.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, we will get to the Valentine's Day theme in
the next hour, but coming up next on Two Pros
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can you imagine Miles Garrett stud a pass rusher for
the Cleveland Browns?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
There are a.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Couple of possible destinations he's seeking a trade, and ESPN's
Bill Barnwell one of his suggestions is the Detroit Lions.
Can you can you imagine if the Lions had Miles
Garrett and Aiden Hutchinson rushing the quarterback? That I would
look if I don't have a dog in the fight.
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You know, man, I'm a Dolphins fan, so I'd be
okay with the Lions a team in the NFC having
that much firepower. That would be a monstrous get for
a team like the Lions, right, And doesn't that fit
the whole bite your kneecaps? Dan Campbell approached that would
be a beautiful marriage if that were to take place.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
What do you think about that? Garrett to the Lions?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
That would be great for the Lions. Obviously do they
have I guess I have thing to read Bill Barno's article. Now,
obviously he knows the money situation for them, so that
was something that I'm sure he considered, you know, for
four Miles Garrett. I mean to have him and Huntington
together would would definitely make the Lions a pretty formidable defense,
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even if you have a couple of injuries. You know, boom,
here's here's you know, you have another pass rusher, right,
You're not gonna probably lose both those guys at some point.
Here's Bill's article. You know, I have a funny Bill's
the best. By the way, I I'm not very good
at at research. I know what I want, but there's
(19:53):
for a long time I didn't know how to use
the Pro Football Reference like search, gamefinder thing, whether you
look for stats. So I'd send Bill a message, Hey Bill,
can you looks up for me? And he would he
would be so kind of do it for me and
give me the numbers I could. I just couldn't do it. Yeah,
I just I don't know if you I don't know
if you ever tried to look? Are you stats guy?
I can't. I'm not good at finding I know what
I want to find, I'm not good at finding it. Ever.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I'll do like just the basic type searches, but if
there's some like crazy in depth you school, I might
not know how to do that.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Now. There's AI tools, by the way, they're fantastic to
search stuff. You just type in whatever you want, just
pulls it up. It's fantastic. But nonetheless, Bill's the best.
I uh, I have another team in mind for Miles Garrett.
You're competing for the team. Sure, I the Washington Commanders
should call and beg for Miles Garrett. The Commanders are
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defensive players away from being actually competitive, you know against
the Eagles that the Eagles feel about the Eagles, guys,
this is something that it's important to talk about because
when it comes to how to beat them, right, it's
hard when they had better players than you. And that's
what it comes down to. They have better players than
everyone else, even the Chiefs, right. We talked about that
(21:10):
heading that game. We said, we said for a while,
like it's the Chiefs don't have better football players, but
they had Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, and the better football
players are in Philly. You have to start bringing in
a plethora of players if you're Washington to keep up
with Philly. I tweeted this yesterday at Jeff Schwartz. The
last four drafts for the Eagles, rounds of one through three, Ready, Quinnion,
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Mitchell Cooper, de Jan Hunt too, who almost punched the
official yesterday or Sunday when he was so excited. He's
a pass rusher for them, Jayalen Carr, Nolan Smith, Tyler Steen,
Jordan Davis, Cam Jergens to Kobe Dean, Devonte Smith, Lanny Dickerson,
and Milton Williams. I mean, that's like eleven home runs.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And it's funny like most of those guys on that
list did something good, are really good against the Chiefs,
right right, and and.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
So that's what you're up against if you're Washington. So
you need a Miles Garrett in the worst way to
keep up because you're you're not gonna get there. It'd
take three or four drafts to get to get there, right,
And so I think that again, this is why you
just need as many good players as possible, and Miles
Garrett certainly fits that bill of getting good football player,
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you know, in the building. So I do think that
it's really really necessary for them to just start building
the best roster they can, and that includes a pass
rusher to help with what we know offensively, you have
the quarterback like you have the quarterback. We know that
now you have to find obviously the next, the next,
and the next you know is maybe Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, and that's the thing too, is it just makes
me think everything we're talking about with Miles Garrett, we've
talked about with Saquon Barkley, you matched say, who was
a really really solid running back with a much better roster.
So it's like, imagine if you did that Miles Garrett
and where he's at right now in Cleveland. And I'm
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not telling you they have no talent, but they don't
have Lions talent on that roster. If you put him
on a Lions roster, wow, you could you could see
the defensive equivalent of like a Saquon Barkley thing what
he did this past season with the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
So my running back take is actually, you know, quite
simple now. So you know, for years I was under
the depression. You know that running backs quote unquote don't matter, right,
That's what I'll say, Like that, right, of course they matter.
But when you look at Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry
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and Christian mccaffreys and these guys, it feels like if
your roster is pretty set, right, Brian the running back
can make a huge addition to that roster, right where
because everyone's like, well the Giants have kept Barkley, No,
not really, that they're not a Barkley away from being good.
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The Eagles offense was a Barkley away, right. I'd even
argue the Chiefs offense is now it's time for exposive
running back, like it's time like you're you're you need
you need that type of player, right And if you're so,
if you are, if you are again, you are a
running back away for being good, then that's a huge addition.
If you're not, then the back doesn't matter. I mean,
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Barkley might have been good on the Giants, he's not
that good, right, he needs other pieces around him to
be really good. And it took the it took it
took the the Eagles offense to a different stratosphere. Man.
So if you're again, if you're, if you're that that offense, great,
Barkley makes you incredibly better. But if you're not, then
Barkley doesn't do much for you in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, and it was it was between uh, like the
Bears were in the mix. Can you you imagine if
you went to the Bears this past season.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, that would have done anything you do.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's like, at least for the twenty twenty four season.
That's like the Giants of the Midwest roster wise, you know,
like you don't have an old line in Chicago that's
even close to the Eagles O line. So yeah, you're
supporting cast matters. It's almost like we only talk about
that with quarterbacks, but listen, if you're a running back,
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comparing like what he did with the Eagles to the Bears,
there's no comparison whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Just it's just like again like the a team. And
it's one of the if you told me the Chiefs
held Saquonto fifty five yards to be like, the Chiefs
won that game and instead Jalen Hurts played incredible and
they want, you know, in that go back to that game.
I know it's now almost a week a week ago.
One of the things that as we sort of watch
a film and sort of you know, you know and
(25:53):
get everything you know thought through in this game. I'll
tell you what, Brian. The thing the Chiefs do so
well is they win all the big moments, and this game,
the Eagles won all the big moments and they went.
Every single moment was won by the Eagles, every one
on one, and it was It was very, very impressive,
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and the prey today they'll celebrate that. But it was
a butt kicking, obviously, But besides that, the winning of
every big moment is so impressive by Philly. They were
so prepared, they were so ready to play. They took
the Chiefs out of what they wanted to do. They
made Travis Kelsey and I think he's old anyways, look old.
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They made Mahomes look skittish out coach, I mean everything
that you It was a pure domination and that sometimes
happens in sports. We don't have to think. It doesn't
have to be a referendum on Mahomes' career and he
has to retire. Those things are ridiculous, but the fact
is the Eagles just gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I was stunned. And you when you watch back the film,
you're like, okay, I mean, yeah, Eagles had better players
we talked about all week, but I didn't think it'd
be like this And this was just a buck kicking, man.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
It really was.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And I still can't believe, uh that Kansas City shot
themselves in the foot as many times every they did.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It was just not chief slack at all.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
No, even like they you know a many Hugh jumps
off side on third down like things like that, where
it's like they never do that. And then of course
I I didn't make as much money as I as
I probably should in the game because I decided to
not follow our friend Bill Krackenberger's advice and take mahomes
under six and a half rush attempts.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Otherwise I would have had a much better day. You know,
you know what, I ended up being down, Bryan half
a unit. To have a thirty wages in Super Bowl's
pretty good, I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
But they're like being at the crabs table for nine
hours and you broke even you know, that's not bad.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
It's not bad. You you will wager swung the day
for me, it would have it would have been a
it would have been a profitable day. I would have
made maybe a unit union and a half. I had
under two and a half players to attempt to pass. Yeah,
it was minus two thirty eight, So I laid a
(28:18):
little bit of juice, okay, and you know, you put
two units on that one. If that hits, then I
I'm up a couple of units. It did not hit
because Kenny Pickett fear pass on fourth down in the
fourth quarter of a blowout. I'm still baffled by that
decision by the Eagles there. Otherwise, I'm I had a
(28:41):
good day, buddy.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Man, and that helped me out a ton, because one
of my bets that looked dead, absolutely dead, was both
teams score at least twenty points. The Chiefs had zero
points near the end of the third quarter. So Kenny Pickett, oh, yeah,
that fourth down in completion, that screwed your bet up.
(29:02):
I was like, good, we need a chance here with
the Chiefs. And then ma Homes threw the bomb for
a touchdown and I got there. So if Kenny Pickett
completed that ball, oh we both go down. Well, at
least he didn't complete it well.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
So it's funny because the completion by Mahomes hit three
wagers for me.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Oh really, yeah, okay, I had.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
One Homes Mahomes overpassing uh huh yards the over yards.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, that hit because the attempt sure didn't get there.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
He ended up with like he was ended up being
like a couple past attempts short but again, I mean
he got sacks many times. I had uh over the
over in that game. Hit on that one, right, I
had uh. And then I had second half highest scoring half.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, I think that one hit before that, because I'll
never forget it was the So it was the Juju
Smith Schuster offensive pass interference right where he was running
across the four major. Yeah, and he just kind of
threw a shoulder to the Eagles dB and they called
it because I was on the over as well, and
(30:18):
I was sweating it because that backed him up ten yards.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, you're right because it would have been it
was that was there was forty fourteen was already.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
The over, right, right, So yeah, they got home because
they got in the end zone on that drive, and
if they didn't, I'm like, this isn't going to get
home because of an offensive pass interference play. But yeah,
so they hit the over on that drive before. So
you hit a couple on the momb.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I hit Mahomes over though in highest scoring half, second
half on that final the final touchdown though. So that's
the way gambling works.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Hey, look, by the way, you know this.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
So Bill Barnwell's column about Miles Garrett trade desk Nation.
So we mentioned two of them, the Lions, the Commanders.
The one we didn't mention that he threw out there
the Philadelphia Eagles. Kenoy, you imagine the Eagles trading for
Miles Garrett with what we just saw in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Right, But knowing how A Roseman, there's no doubt he's
gonna call I mean, Howie Roseman. Look there there is
there's basically two ways to be an aggressive Well, I'll
set back. There's two ways to basically be to do
your salary cap right, you have to spend, right, there's
a four, there's a there's a ceiling in the NFL.
(31:37):
But you can structure contracts two different ways. I think
you're big contracts, right, Brian. The first way is you
have a cap number and you pay that cap number
and that's the end of it. Right. Or if you're
more aggressive and you have and you want to spend
some of your cash, right, what do you do? You
(32:00):
pay your players and bonuses? Right, You convert their salary
to bonus. You pay them in the cash, and that
lowers your cap hit. Right, And the Eagles always do that.
They pay their players in cash and they lower the
cap number. And allows them to get a lot of
the football players. That's just that's the truth of what
they do. And you have to be willing, though, to
(32:22):
spend that cash, right, instead of keeping that money, poorting
that money and paying the players it will every other
week like you do during the regular season. So you know,
for example, let's say Jalen Hurts is making ten million dollars.
Obviously that's not true, but ten million dollars. You can
pay him that ten million dollars over the season, right,
or you give him a nine million dollar bonus in
March and you in salary cap hit to spread out
(32:45):
over five years, right, But you have to be you
have to spend the cash. The Eagles spend the cash.
That's one reason why they're so good is they're willing
to spend that money. In front the Bengals, by the way,
or not, I know, Joe Burrow is like begging them
to spend the money, like that's what you have to
do to be successful. But I don't have to pay
Patrick Willmans a ton of Money's captainets they're sixty six
million dollars. It's not gonna be that way, right, They'll
give them the cut that in half with the bonus
(33:07):
and whatnot. But you have to be willing to do that,
and the Eagles are willing to do that, and that's
how they're able to maximize their roster. And so I
think if you're Hollie Roseman, you're certainly looking at you're
gonna lose. I think Josh WIT's a free agent, You're
gonna lose him. You're gonna lose Milton Williams most likely,
who's also a free agent. So you know, you adding
(33:29):
Miles Garrett to that team when you really your interior
rushes is is sort of the best part of your
past Rush. I could see it happening.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
There's no doubt they would be Oh my gosh, a
d line featuring Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, and Miles Garrett
maybe Nolan's Smith on the other end, Like.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Would that surprise you if they if they know to play.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
For at No, No, it's why they win.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
They've been now to eight they've been to to in
the last years. They've been to three Super Bowls. They
won two of them, including you know, an upset and
being the Patriots and then like and they beat the Chiefs,
uh and they lost by three in the other game.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, I know, Hey, he's gonna make the call.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Like you said, he's gonna kick the tires on this
possibly happening, and that would be just start with the Division,
the Commanders and the Cowboys. If the Eagles got Miles Garrett,
You're like, good, lord man, We're.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
All going up against this, all right.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
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Thankfully or not thankfully depending on your perspective. No duvall
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sound bites, nothing like that from Kellen.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Moore, thankfully for yourself.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Oh yeah, Duvall or the follow up? All here we go, right,
like you nailed at that time, you know, stuck the landing.
There we go. He can cross that off the list.
Got that done.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Here's my question. There were seven head coach hirings in
this latest go around, right, so what would you say
is the best gig? What would you say is the
worst gig at least for twenty twenty five, right for
the next season. If you want to go beyond that, great,
But I'll just start with the AFC. Okay, We'll try
(36:17):
to break it down. So you give you all seven.
It's just gonna sound like wow, wow wow. The Patriots,
the Jets, Jags, and Raiders. Those are the four new
yeah head coach gigs in the AFC? What do you
think about any of those?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
So, I the team that gets Drake may probably is
the leader vote for that one. So that's a Patriots obviously,
because like you know, you obviously need a quarterback to win,
and you know, Drake May looks like he's a quarterback
you can win with and the other ones just don't
have that right now, So fair enough, I will say
New England Patriots. And we know, like again sort of
(36:54):
like the willingness to spend to win. I feel like
Robert Kraft would be that guy, and you know he
would I was available, and so that feels like that.
That's my answer for that one.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Okay, fair enough. How about the best of the NFC.
You've got the Cowboys with the new head coach, the
Bears and the Saints with new head coaches.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
What do you like out of that one?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Jeez? I mean, I guess the Bears, Gequila Williams, Yeah,
it would be the that would feel like the easy one,
right yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Okay, So if it's between the Bears and the Patriots,
how do you break the tie between those two?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Best gig for the new head coach?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
So I think part of it is with the Patriots
you have a couple of things. You have an organization
that is used to winning, right, which is important an
organization that I think will spend to win the thing.
With the Bears, it's so hard. Is like they just
(37:50):
have not had the success right the Patriots have had
and they've been a team that you know, I mean,
they've never had a four thousand yeard pastor in the
history of their pro of their of their of their franchise.
But you have Kleb Williams. You have a better roster
at the moment. I look, I think part of it
is you have to after year one of rookies, right,
(38:11):
Drake Man and kill Williams, I think you still are
allowed to go on your draft priors who I had.
Caleb Williams is a better player than Drake may Calla
Williams played in that situation last season. So I think
I still take the Bears for that reason. Yeah, because
I I unless look, if Ben Johnson can't fix then
there's no fixing to be had with k Williams. So
(38:34):
I would still lean Bears with my draft priors. After
this season, I feel like draft priors disappear. So that's
I take Chicago. Who would you take?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, I would go Chicago to one of the you know,
like one of the factors. That's down the list, but
still there is Look at we was talking about the Steelers,
like the standard is the standard. Compare the Patriots standard
of winning to the bear standard of winning, you know
what I mean? So for the new head coach, that's
(39:08):
something else that is at play there. I think that
right now I get the better quarterback in Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Time will tell if that's true or not.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
And then I also get yeah, this can play to
your benefit if you're the new head coach.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Right just being a playoff team is like acceptable.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yeah, you're like, we're in the playoffs, babe, let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Like Patriots are not feeling that they not only want
to get to the playoffs, they want to do major
damage because that's what they're used to.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
How about this? How about the worst gig though, Jeff?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
A lot of people think it's the Saints with Kellen Moore,
they're in salary cap.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Hell, it probably is.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
But Jacksonville's close, Jacksonville's rough beat Carroll taking over the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
You're the same division as Mahome. Yeah, the Chargers in the.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Months have I think a lot of runway in Vegas,
Like you can you have a lot of time to
fix it, and you have your cap space and and
draft picks. Jacksonville's sort of and they have Trevor Lawrence,
who knows if he's any good. I mean, you're kind
of stuck with Trevor Lawrence, so that feels like a
(40:12):
tough spot to me. And you have a perennial loser,
and so the ers, I guess too.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
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Speaker 4 (00:58):
Good morning to you, Jeff Schwartz.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I'll tell you what, man, I don't know how you're
gonna make it through this show, and I don't know
through this year. That might be a little too far,
But how about the jets On the eve of Valentine's
Day yesterday saying Aaron Rodgers. We're moving on. Man, we
can't do this anymore. They go their separate ways on
Valentine's Day, Eve, Huh what ting right there?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
It really is upsetting and it really takes away from
the day. I mean, I think that, you know, you
want to have a day of love and celebration today,
you know, and unfortunately we can't do that. Now we
can actually celebrate that Aaron Rodgers is no longer employed
by the Jets. I think the Jets fans are celebrating
(01:44):
this this morning, right, They're super pumped that they don't
have Aaron Rodgers, the quarterbaber. That has been a disaster,
and Brian looked this was going to happen. It's just
Aaron Glenn was hired. It was gonna happen. When when
when Robert Sala was fired. I don't know about you.
I don't know what you thought. I guess when Aaron
(02:04):
Rodgers was traded. I don't know if we were doing
radio that's spring together. But I thought it wouldn't be
as fruitful as they hoped it would be. I'm not
sure I thought it'd be as bad as it was.
I mean, this has been all time disaster. Trade for
the Jets. There's no other way around it. He gets
hurt on the first series of the first game in
(02:28):
twenty twenty three, and then last year was a dumpster fire.
And even I think the people that thought it would
go poorly never thought I'd go this bad. People thought
it was it would go well or too optimistic in life,
and they need to kind of take it down a second.
But I just never thought it would be this bad.
(02:49):
And I think that moving forward, the most interesting part
to me is is Aaron Rodgers done the Jets parts? Boring?
To me? I other find another quarterback or whatever. I mean.
The Jets have been a relevant for twelve years now.
I don't. To me, that's not the fun story here.
I think Aaron Glenn will be fine as a coach.
I love this introjunctory press conference. But then again, the
(03:09):
coaches who have the best press conference to start seemed
to be the ones that always stink, are the ones
that we think, like, oh, what a what a weird
press conference? DIXIIRONI had? I mean super Bowl champion? Right?
Dan Campbell's by the kneecaps always don't the lines to
make them better? Right? So press conference means nothing to me,
But to me, what happens to Aaron Rodgers Now he's
(03:32):
most fasting. Sorry by way my voice. I you know,
when you spend six days in New Orleans, you come
back with sickness most often. That's just I think that's
a natural rule for traveling somewhere like that for six days. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You mentioned the Aaron Glenn introductory press conference, and this
is probably the most memorable part. Here's a here's Aaron Glenn,
former Jets player now current Jets head coach.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Here you go, put your seat bus on to get
ready for the right Listen.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
There are going to be some challenges, but what challenges
becomes opportunity gets opportunity.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
But here's what I do know.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
We're the freaking New York Jets. We're billfit the.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I love the freaking New York Jets. We're built for
this bleep over here.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I feel like if you're a Jets fan, you probably
you probably love that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Well, yeah, I mean what fan base doesn't love someone
saying we're built for this.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Huh uh?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
But man, this this Jets fan base, they've been through it.
How many years we're talking about fourteen years since they've
been in the playoffs. It's the longest trout. Yeah, Like
I get it, Jeff. Where if you're you're the new
guy in town. Yeah, and that's Aaron Glenn. Look, it's
hard to be known as all right, we got the
(04:45):
new he's the sheriff. Now you know, we got our
new head coach in town. If Aaron Rodgers is your
quarterback and he's sort of playing by his own rules, right, like,
that doesn't match.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No. No, Look, when you have a new coach, you
typically will pair the new coach, oftentimes with the new
general manager, right. That happens often, and then they want
their own quarterback. So if you notice, and I know
the story came out yesterday, it's not it's not accurate,
But there was a story that Trevor Lawrence for Jacksonville
was was being shopped, which seems impossible when you think
(05:18):
about because they don't even have a general manager. So
I'm not sure how they can shop a quarterback. But
it makes sense in the in the in the essence
that most often coaches want their own guys at quarterback,
and that includes Aaron Rodgers not being there because they
want their own voice, they want their own message, and
(05:39):
there's No, there's no emotional attachment to having a guy
aaronger roster, especially when he's not good. Right Like, if
in the to me we were to retire, of course
you would keep Mahomes, But Aaron Rodgers wasn't good last year,
and there's no reason to keep a guy like that,
who is as outspoken as he is if he's not
going to help you win football games. So they want
(06:00):
their own guys. So just from like that base level,
this made sense for them to want to get rid
of Aaron Rodgers. Then you add on to it sort
of the noise around him, because he's a noisy player.
He's on you know, he's on media, and some of
the I mean, are we gonna call them conspiracy theories?
I don't know what I'm gonna call it that alternative
methods of thinking about life. You know, you some people
(06:24):
believe in that stuf. I don't want I don't want
to you know, I don't want to come here this
morning and say that. You know that you can't believe
what you want on this on this day of love.
But they are alternative methods to life. Okay, when all
those things are all together at once, you know, and
he's not good, you're gonna get rid of them, So
then you get rid of Rodgers. Is not a surprise
at all. I did find interesting that it came out
(06:46):
before they were looking to fire him, essentially right, that
there was no McAfee allowed. Yeah, which is a a
way to sort of regain the narrative and set some
boundaries for your franchise. It's hard, I think when you're
(07:07):
a new coach and you're trying to set the culture
for your team and your quarterback is on a national
program every Tuesday talking about your team and sort of
the message is coming from his mouth, not from the
team's mouth. That makes sense. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong
with Eron Rodgers doing that. I mean, lots of players
(07:29):
have their own podcasts. But look, man, I've made this argument.
I don't know if to you, I think we should
have less players with podcasts. I think sometimes that it
really hurts not the image is the wrong word, but
like there are some of these players say things that
I think are just better kept to themselves while they're
(07:49):
playing football, and I think the podcast that some of
these guys do are a detriment to not their image,
but just their team. It's okay, just to like not
have anything to say while you're playing, like you don't
have to have a podcast. And that's what the Jets
are telling Rodgers, like, hey man, let's keep everything in house.
Let's we're gonna reset the message. It's gonna be our message.
(08:14):
And I didn't see much outrage for it. I think
people just don't like Aaron Rodgers on the internet. But
I did financing that that leaked out well before they
were gonna cut him, which I think we all thought
was gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Anyways, Well, yeah, and it just it shows you how
much it is regressed. You know, it's just not it's
not one of these deals where who cares if he's
putting up these huge numbers if he's going on the
Pat McAfee show. Do you think the Jets or anything
would really care if he's putting up you know, these
numbers are very productive.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
There's just no way. But now that there's a new
regime and it's like.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Hey, how about less trips to Egypt right before the
season and uh, less mcaffee season.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
So they want him to to take you know, you know,
beat all the mandatory things. I'm gonna tell you, I
know we covered this, Like I say at the time
that I didn't know how it manifests itself, but I
thought missing mandatory mini camp was not great time. I
(09:18):
believe I said that, right, And the pushback I got
was for those who don't don't remember or at the
end of at the end of the off season program
for the NFL, which is voluntary and most guys go,
there's a mandatory mini camp. Right. It's the same weekend
every single season for every single team, and it's the
one mandatory event you have to be at. And it's
sort of like a dress rehearsal for trading camp. Right,
(09:42):
it's all the playbook quickly again and you know, no
pads or on. I mean, it's low key. It's most
you know, most teams cancel the final day of a
mini camp. But the fact is is that it's like
a mandatory thing, right. You know it's coming and everyone,
no matter what your officers sort of program is for yourself,
(10:02):
everyone's there. It's mandatory, like you just show up. Your
retire team's there for two or three days and you
get to work in and you get ready for trading camp.
And Rogers didn't show up. He was in Egypt for
whatever thing he was doing. And you know, I get
I said at the time, I thought that that's not really,
in my opinion, a great way to show that you're
(10:23):
a leader of a team when you can't show up
to a mandatory event. And the pushback I got was, well,
he was at other stuff. I don't I don't care, Brian,
because the thing that he had to be at he
wasn't at. So like, yeah, he was at the other
stuff that was voluntary, but the one thing on your
calendar you had to be at, he chose to be
in Egypt doing whatever he does. And that to me
(10:45):
just kind of stood out as like a selfish move right,
And again I didn't know how it manifest itself, Like
I didn't know that it would end up basically being
a disaster this season. But I think part of that, again,
that one event him not showing up is sort of
the idea that he's just not fully in. It's not
fully committed because the one thing you had to be
at he wasn't at. And whatever excuse you want to get,
(11:08):
he gave the team notice, who cares he wasn't with
his teammates in the time that they expect him to
be there, and I know they said it was fine,
but it's it's not fine, Brian, I think, and I
think it ended up just kind of showing itself this
season with his play and they just it's not all in, right,
it's not all in with the Jets, And you know
(11:28):
the Jets cutting him was a pretty easy decision.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, Well, now you spin it forward to what now
is there a team that is.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
We could use some Aaron Rodgers going forward here?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Is that the Raiders?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But my thing is why would Aaron Rodgers say yes
to the Raiders?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Why?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Like it would just be for money and maybe notoriety
to not retire and go on a show here or there,
and it's better for him if he's an active quarterback
instead of retired that. I mean, where do you think
the Raiders are going with Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback?
They're going nowhere? And he would know that. So what
happens from here on out is very interesting to me.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
It is I wonder if if RFK has a spot
for him and is a his cabinet. I don't know
if he gets a cabinet as a new job, but
you hang out with with with with RFK. I don't
look Rogers at a point in his career where he's
probably not an option as a veteran backup somewhere like
(12:32):
no one's going to bring them to mentor anyone, right,
I don't know. So you got to think that he
wants to start, And the question is, of course, like
where would that be? Who really had who really gives
an opportunity for him a start? And that makes sense, right,
that to make sense, and the Raiders have come to
mind right as maybe a team that makes sense for him.
(12:56):
But to your point, it's the question is like why,
I'll give you a why. I think I have a
why for this. Pete Carroll is their new coach, and
they might not draft the quarterback this season. It's not
a great quarterback year. And I can make the case
that the Raiders are so void of talent that just
they need good football players and four going a quarter
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four going quarterback this year in lieu of just a
good football player to make their roster better might be
the best way to treat the draft, Brian, And so
that leaves them without a quarterback. I mean, you can
roll back it, don't Connell, if you'd like, I guess,
but I'm not sure that that's really like a smart option.
So Aaron Rodgers, you bring them in for a season.
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Pete Carroll's a little wacky too, you know, both whacky together,
and you know it's kind of like what wacky dudes
and whatnot. And you have a year where just Rogers
is a veteran on your team. It's a one year deal.
He's better than nothing, right, He's better than no quarterback
on the roster, And that's how this goes for him.
Like that, I can see that sort of being a
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justification for one year for Rogers with with Pete character
sort of needing somebody to just be an adult. I
mean if we would call that in the room, you know,
and just having an option better than a no Connell,
which Rogers is by the way, I mean we wight
not think Rogers any could. So that's the case for
him there. That's the only team, like, that's the only
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team you know, Minnesota, no right, Minnesota needs to play.
McCarthy us has come up before.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
What do you think about that? Little Tomlin and Rogers?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
That doesn't feel like a good personality fit.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I'm not gonna lie there.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, I mean, I guess Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. We thought about
Pittsburgh when at some point they have to just go
for it and they need to go get themselves a
quarterback like something of the future, just make a move,
stops being in the middle of everything. So I don't
know what Pittsburgh feels like. Not not a great option, Brian.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Uh, it doesn't to me either, But no, I could
see them. It would be the ultimate indictment on the
quarterbacks that they have. Because listen, you might not be
a big Russell Wilson fan, and I get it, but
Russell Wilson has many more years than Aaron Rodgers does.
And if they're just like, yeah, let's just let's take
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the one year over the multiple years, that would tell
you all you need to know about how they feel
about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Wells is not good. It's it's you know, fans have
a hard time just being like, yeah, that player is
not good anymore. And Russell Wilson is not good and
it's okay, just like it's okay to say that he's fine.
I mean, is he the worst quarterback in the NFL? Nope,
He's not good anymore. Right, And Rogers I mean I
think I think Rogers is better. I really don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Wow, that's that's even damning for Rogers too, you know, I.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Would say Rogers, it's just there's just so many other
thing with Rogers, it's just you know, so many sort
of feels like other things that take up his mind,
which again, dude, players have. It's it's okay to outside interest,
but again, players have podcasts. I mean, one of the
best players in the world is dating Taylor Swift. I mean,
you can have other interests outside of football, but it
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seems like again those interest if they interfere with you know,
your job, that's where again, teams don't like those things,
so that that will play a role in determining I
think who wants Aaron Rodgers Man.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
We got a lot to do on this show, Jeff,
I'm looking forward to it. We have a a Valentine's
Day theme. Oh that applies directly to the sports world.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
How could we overlook love on a day like today?
We we can't can't do that at all, So that
will be uh highlighted here today. Absolutely, yes, I know
when I think that's right, When I think big love guy,
I immediately think Jeff Schwartz right, how.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
If it was a day of Hater eight That's where.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I shine, Absolutely the opposite.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Of Valentine's Day. That's why I'm I am shine right there.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, we will get to the Valentine's Day theme in
the next hour, but coming up next on Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe Live from the tyrack dot
Com Studios. Can you imagine if this team gets this player.
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can you imagine Miles Garrett stud a pass rusher for
the Cleveland Browns?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
There are a.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Couple of possible destinations he's seeking a trade, and ESPN's
Bill Barnwell one of his suggestions is the Detroit Lions.
Can you can you imagine if the Lions had Miles
Garrett and Aiden Hutchinson rushing the quarterback? That I would
look if I don't have a dog in the fight.
(18:46):
You know, man, I'm a Dolphins fan, so I'd be
okay with the Lions a team in the NFC having
that much firepower. That would be a monstrous get for
a team like the Lions, right, And doesn't that fit
the whole bite your kneecaps? Dan Campbell approached that would
be a beautiful marriage if that were to take place.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
What do you think about that? Garrett to the Lions?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
That would be great for the Lions. Obviously do they
have I guess I have thing to read Bill Barno's article. Now,
obviously he knows the money situation for them, so that
was something that I'm sure he considered, you know, for
four Miles Garrett. I mean to have him and Huntington
together would would definitely make the Lions a pretty formidable defense,
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even if you have a couple of injuries. You know, boom,
here's here's you know, you have another pass rusher, right,
You're not gonna probably lose both those guys at some point.
Here's Bill's article. You know, I have a funny Bill's
the best. By the way, I I'm not very good
at at research. I know what I want, but there's
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for a long time I didn't know how to use
the Pro Football Reference like search, gamefinder thing, whether you
look for stats. So I'd send Bill a message, Hey Bill,
can you looks up for me? And he would he
would be so kind of do it for me and
give me the numbers I could. I just couldn't do it. Yeah,
I just I don't know if you I don't know
if you ever tried to look? Are you stats guy?
I can't. I'm not good at finding I know what
I want to find, I'm not good at finding it. Ever.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I'll do like just the basic type searches, but if
there's some like crazy in depth you school, I might
not know how to do that.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Now. There's AI tools, by the way, they're fantastic to
search stuff. You just type in whatever you want, just
pulls it up. It's fantastic. But nonetheless, Bill's the best.
I uh, I have another team in mind for Miles Garrett.
You're competing for the team. Sure, I the Washington Commanders
should call and beg for Miles Garrett. The Commanders are
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defensive players away from being actually competitive, you know against
the Eagles that the Eagles feel about the Eagles, guys,
this is something that it's important to talk about because
when it comes to how to beat them, right, it's
hard when they had better players than you. And that's
what it comes down to. They have better players than
everyone else, even the Chiefs, right. We talked about that
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heading that game. We said, we said for a while,
like it's the Chiefs don't have better football players, but
they had Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, and the better football
players are in Philly. You have to start bringing in
a plethora of players if you're Washington to keep up
with Philly. I tweeted this yesterday at Jeff Schwartz. The
last four drafts for the Eagles, rounds of one through three, Ready, Quinnion,
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Mitchell Cooper, de Jan Hunt too, who almost punched the
official yesterday or Sunday when he was so excited. He's
a pass rusher for them, Jayalen Carr, Nolan Smith, Tyler Steen,
Jordan Davis, Cam Jergens to Kobe Dean, Devonte Smith, Lanny Dickerson,
and Milton Williams. I mean, that's like eleven home runs.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
And it's funny like most of those guys on that
list did something good, are really good against the Chiefs,
right right, and and.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
So that's what you're up against if you're Washington. So
you need a Miles Garrett in the worst way to
keep up because you're you're not gonna get there. It'd
take three or four drafts to get to get there, right,
And so I think that again, this is why you
just need as many good players as possible, and Miles
Garrett certainly fits that bill of getting good football player,
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you know, in the building. So I do think that
it's really really necessary for them to just start building
the best roster they can, and that includes a pass
rusher to help with what we know offensively, you have
the quarterback like you have the quarterback. We know that
now you have to find obviously the next, the next,
and the next you know is maybe Miles Garrett.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Well, and that's the thing too, is it just makes
me think everything we're talking about with Miles Garrett, we've
talked about with Saquon Barkley, you matched say, who was
a really really solid running back with a much better roster.
So it's like, imagine if you did that Miles Garrett
and where he's at right now in Cleveland. And I'm
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not telling you they have no talent, but they don't
have Lions talent on that roster. If you put him
on a Lions roster, wow, you could you could see
the defensive equivalent of like a Saquon Barkley thing what
he did this past season with the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
So my running back take is actually, you know, quite
simple now. So you know, for years I was under
the depression. You know that running backs quote unquote don't matter, right,
That's what I'll say, Like that, right, of course they matter.
But when you look at Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry
(23:52):
and Christian mccaffreys and these guys, it feels like if
your roster is pretty set, right, Brian the running back
can make a huge addition to that roster, right where
because everyone's like, well the Giants have kept Barkley, No,
not really, that they're not a Barkley away from being good.
(24:12):
The Eagles offense was a Barkley away, right. I'd even
argue the Chiefs offense is now it's time for exposive
running back, like it's time like you're you're you need
you need that type of player, right And if you're so,
if you are, if you are again, you are a
running back away for being good, then that's a huge addition.
If you're not, then the back doesn't matter. I mean,
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Barkley might have been good on the Giants, he's not
that good, right, he needs other pieces around him to
be really good. And it took the it took it
took the the Eagles offense to a different stratosphere. Man.
So if you're again, if you're, if you're that that offense, great,
Barkley makes you incredibly better. But if you're not, then
Barkley doesn't do much for you in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, and it was it was between uh, like the
Bears were in the mix. Can you you imagine if
you went to the Bears this past season.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, that would have done anything you do.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's like, at least for the twenty twenty four season.
That's like the Giants of the Midwest roster wise, you know,
like you don't have an old line in Chicago that's
even close to the Eagles O line. So yeah, you're
supporting cast matters. It's almost like we only talk about
that with quarterbacks, but listen, if you're a running back,
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comparing like what he did with the Eagles to the Bears,
there's no comparison whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Just it's just like again like the a team. And
it's one of the if you told me the Chiefs
held Saquonto fifty five yards to be like, the Chiefs
won that game and instead Jalen Hurts played incredible and
they want, you know, in that go back to that game.
I know it's now almost a week a week ago.
One of the things that as we sort of watch
a film and sort of you know, you know and
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get everything you know thought through in this game. I'll
tell you what, Brian. The thing the Chiefs do so
well is they win all the big moments, and this game,
the Eagles won all the big moments and they went.
Every single moment was won by the Eagles, every one
on one, and it was It was very, very impressive,
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and the prey today they'll celebrate that. But it was
a butt kicking, obviously, But besides that, the winning of
every big moment is so impressive by Philly. They were
so prepared, they were so ready to play. They took
the Chiefs out of what they wanted to do. They
made Travis Kelsey and I think he's old anyways, look old.
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They made Mahomes look skittish out coach, I mean everything
that you It was a pure domination and that sometimes
happens in sports. We don't have to think. It doesn't
have to be a referendum on Mahomes' career and he
has to retire. Those things are ridiculous, but the fact
is the Eagles just gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I was stunned. And you when you watch back the film,
you're like, okay, I mean, yeah, Eagles had better players
we talked about all week, but I didn't think it'd
be like this And this was just a buck kicking, man.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
It really was.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
And I still can't believe, uh that Kansas City shot
themselves in the foot as many times every they did.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It was just not chief slack at all.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
No, even like they you know a many Hugh jumps
off side on third down like things like that, where
it's like they never do that. And then of course
I I didn't make as much money as I as
I probably should in the game because I decided to
not follow our friend Bill Krackenberger's advice and take mahomes
under six and a half rush attempts.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Oh okay, yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Otherwise I would have had a much better day. You know,
you know what, I ended up being down, Bryan half
a unit. To have a thirty wages in Super Bowl's
pretty good, I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
But they're like being at the crabs table for nine
hours and you broke even you know, that's not bad.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
It's not bad. You you will wager swung the day
for me, it would have it would have been a
it would have been a profitable day. I would have
made maybe a unit union and a half. I had
under two and a half players to attempt to pass. Yeah,
it was minus two thirty eight, So I laid a
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little bit of juice, okay, and you know, you put
two units on that one. If that hits, then I
I'm up a couple of units. It did not hit
because Kenny Pickett fear pass on fourth down in the
fourth quarter of a blowout. I'm still baffled by that
decision by the Eagles there. Otherwise, I'm I had a
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good day, buddy.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Man, and that helped me out a ton, because one
of my bets that looked dead, absolutely dead, was both
teams score at least twenty points. The Chiefs had zero
points near the end of the third quarter. So Kenny Pickett, oh, yeah,
that fourth down in completion, that screwed your bet up.
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I was like, good, we need a chance here with
the Chiefs. And then ma Homes threw the bomb for
a touchdown and I got there. So if Kenny Pickett
completed that ball, oh we both go down. Well, at
least he didn't complete it well.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
So it's funny because the completion by Mahomes hit three
wagers for me.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Oh really, yeah, okay, I had.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
One Homes Mahomes overpassing uh huh yards the over yards.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, that hit because the attempt sure didn't get there.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
He ended up with like he was ended up being
like a couple past attempts short but again, I mean
he got sacks many times. I had uh over the
over in that game. Hit on that one, right, I
had uh. And then I had second half highest scoring half.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, I think that one hit before that, because I'll
never forget it was the So it was the Juju
Smith Schuster offensive pass interference right where he was running
across the four major. Yeah, and he just kind of
threw a shoulder to the Eagles dB and they called
it because I was on the over as well, and
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I was sweating it because that backed him up ten yards.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, yeah, you're right because it would have been it
was that was there was forty fourteen was already.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
The over, right, right, So yeah, they got home because
they got in the end zone on that drive, and
if they didn't, I'm like, this isn't going to get
home because of an offensive pass interference play. But yeah,
so they hit the over on that drive before. So
you hit a couple on the momb.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I hit Mahomes over though in highest scoring half, second
half on that final the final touchdown though. So that's
the way gambling works.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Hey, look, by the way, you know this.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
So Bill Barnwell's column about Miles Garrett trade desk Nation.
So we mentioned two of them, the Lions, the Commanders.
The one we didn't mention that he threw out there
the Philadelphia Eagles. Kenoy, you imagine the Eagles trading for
Miles Garrett with what we just saw in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Right, But knowing how A Roseman, there's no doubt he's
gonna call I mean, Howie Roseman. Look there there is
there's basically two ways to be an aggressive Well, I'll
set back. There's two ways to basically be to do
your salary cap right, you have to spend, right, there's
a four, there's a there's a ceiling in the NFL.
(31:37):
But you can structure contracts two different ways. I think
you're big contracts, right, Brian. The first way is you
have a cap number and you pay that cap number
and that's the end of it. Right. Or if you're
more aggressive and you have and you want to spend
some of your cash, right, what do you do? You
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pay your players and bonuses? Right, You convert their salary
to bonus. You pay them in the cash, and that
lowers your cap hit. Right, And the Eagles always do that.
They pay their players in cash and they lower the
cap number. And allows them to get a lot of
the football players. That's just that's the truth of what
they do. And you have to be willing, though, to
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spend that cash, right, instead of keeping that money, poorting
that money and paying the players it will every other
week like you do during the regular season. So you know,
for example, let's say Jalen Hurts is making ten million dollars.
Obviously that's not true, but ten million dollars. You can
pay him that ten million dollars over the season, right,
or you give him a nine million dollar bonus in
March and you in salary cap hit to spread out
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over five years, right, But you have to be you
have to spend the cash. The Eagles spend the cash.
That's one reason why they're so good is they're willing
to spend that money. In front the Bengals, by the way,
or not, I know, Joe Burrow is like begging them
to spend the money, like that's what you have to
do to be successful. But I don't have to pay
Patrick Willmans a ton of Money's captainets they're sixty six
million dollars. It's not gonna be that way, right, They'll
give them the cut that in half with the bonus
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and whatnot. But you have to be willing to do that,
and the Eagles are willing to do that, and that's
how they're able to maximize their roster. And so I
think if you're Hollie Roseman, you're certainly looking at you're
gonna lose. I think Josh WIT's a free agent, You're
gonna lose him. You're gonna lose Milton Williams most likely,
who's also a free agent. So you know, you adding
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Miles Garrett to that team when you really your interior
rushes is is sort of the best part of your
past Rush. I could see it happening.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
There's no doubt they would be Oh my gosh, a
d line featuring Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, and Miles Garrett
maybe Nolan's Smith on the other end, Like.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Would that surprise you if they if they know to play.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
For at No, No, it's why they win.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
They've been now to eight they've been to to in
the last years. They've been to three Super Bowls. They
won two of them, including you know, an upset and
being the Patriots and then like and they beat the Chiefs,
uh and they lost by three in the other game.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, I know, Hey, he's gonna make the call.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Like you said, he's gonna kick the tires on this
possibly happening, and that would be just start with the Division,
the Commanders and the Cowboys. If the Eagles got Miles Garrett,
You're like, good, lord man, We're.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
All going up against this, all right.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
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Kellen Moore was introduced as the new Saints head coach yesterday,
Thankfully or not thankfully depending on your perspective. No duvall
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sound bites, nothing like that from Kellen.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Moore, thankfully for yourself.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Oh yeah, Duvall or the follow up? All here we go, right,
like you nailed at that time, you know, stuck the landing.
There we go. He can cross that off the list.
Got that done.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Here's my question. There were seven head coach hirings in
this latest go around, right, so what would you say
is the best gig? What would you say is the
worst gig at least for twenty twenty five, right for
the next season. If you want to go beyond that, great,
But I'll just start with the AFC. Okay, We'll try
(36:17):
to break it down. So you give you all seven.
It's just gonna sound like wow, wow wow. The Patriots,
the Jets, Jags, and Raiders. Those are the four new
yeah head coach gigs in the AFC? What do you
think about any of those?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
So, I the team that gets Drake may probably is
the leader vote for that one. So that's a Patriots obviously,
because like you know, you obviously need a quarterback to win,
and you know, Drake May looks like he's a quarterback
you can win with and the other ones just don't
have that right now, So fair enough, I will say
New England Patriots. And we know, like again sort of
(36:54):
like the willingness to spend to win. I feel like
Robert Kraft would be that guy, and you know he
would I was available, and so that feels like that.
That's my answer for that one.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Okay, fair enough. How about the best of the NFC.
You've got the Cowboys with the new head coach, the
Bears and the Saints with new head coaches.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
What do you like out of that one?
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Jeez? I mean, I guess the Bears, Gequila Williams, Yeah,
it would be the that would feel like the easy one,
right yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Okay, So if it's between the Bears and the Patriots,
how do you break the tie between those two?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Best gig for the new head coach?
Speaker 5 (37:30):
So I think part of it is with the Patriots
you have a couple of things. You have an organization
that is used to winning, right, which is important an
organization that I think will spend to win the thing.
With the Bears, it's so hard. Is like they just
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have not had the success right the Patriots have had
and they've been a team that you know, I mean,
they've never had a four thousand yeard pastor in the
history of their pro of their of their of their franchise.
But you have Kleb Williams. You have a better roster
at the moment. I look, I think part of it
is you have to after year one of rookies, right,
(38:11):
Drake Man and kill Williams, I think you still are
allowed to go on your draft priors who I had.
Caleb Williams is a better player than Drake may Calla
Williams played in that situation last season. So I think
I still take the Bears for that reason. Yeah, because
I I unless look, if Ben Johnson can't fix then
there's no fixing to be had with k Williams. So
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I would still lean Bears with my draft priors. After
this season, I feel like draft priors disappear. So that's
I take Chicago. Who would you take?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, I would go Chicago to one of the you know,
like one of the factors. That's down the list, but
still there is Look at we was talking about the Steelers,
like the standard is the standard. Compare the Patriots standard
of winning to the bear standard of winning, you know
what I mean? So for the new head coach, that's
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something else that is at play there. I think that
right now I get the better quarterback in Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Time will tell if that's true or not.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
And then I also get yeah, this can play to
your benefit if you're the new head coach.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
Right just being a playoff team is like acceptable.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yeah, you're like, we're in the playoffs, babe, let's go.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Like Patriots are not feeling that they not only want
to get to the playoffs, they want to do major
damage because that's what they're used to.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
How about this? How about the worst gig though, Jeff?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
A lot of people think it's the Saints with Kellen Moore,
they're in salary cap.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Hell, it probably is.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
But Jacksonville's close, Jacksonville's rough beat Carroll taking over the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
You're the same division as Mahome. Yeah, the Chargers in the.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Months have I think a lot of runway in Vegas,
Like you can you have a lot of time to
fix it, and you have your cap space and and
draft picks. Jacksonville's sort of and they have Trevor Lawrence,
who knows if he's any good. I mean, you're kind
of stuck with Trevor Lawrence, so that feels like a
(40:12):
tough spot to me. And you have a perennial loser,
and so the ers, I guess too.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
We got some crazy rumors to get to and the
face
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