July 5, 2024 • 41 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian Noe and Jason Martin are filling in for the guys! They open Hour 1 filling us in on the world of competitive eating after another wild 4th of July, then they get into the Warriors landing Buddy Hield in a sign-and-trade with the 76ers. How well will Hield fill the "Klay Thompson role"? Finally, they close out the hour discussing Texas and Oklahoma officially being welcomed into the SEC!
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
Man, you talk about an absolute sham championship.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
We will get to that momentarily. Good morning everybody.
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Happy day after the fourth was your fourth?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Good? Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's really hot where I am here in Nashville. It's
like somewhere between one oh five and one ten. Goodre
dex yesterday. So like we were, we we did we
decided not to actually endeavor to the pool because it also.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Meant being outside. Yeah. Wow, So we actually just stayed
in because of how hot it was. But outside of that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, it was a pretty good day. I was yours
pretty good. Yeah, it's uh, we're no mad's over here.
So in Champagne, Illinois as we speak, and it was
a little cooler than normal, and uh, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We made it out.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We went to fireworks. It's at the University of Illinois.
Last year it was a great display. This year it
was freaking brutal, but it was free. It's free, so
all right, Yeah, is this real slow? I've made it
to fireworks a couple of times in Nashville, and man,
they go crazy. There was one year felt like it
(02:09):
was the Grand Finale for about twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It was crazy. They go all out over there. Yeah.
My dog is terrified.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Still hasn't been able to hasn't been able to go
outside since yesterday afternoon, just like paralyzed. Tried to take
her out three times last night. She was not having
any of it. She would go out there and she's
kind of look at me like, no, I don't know
what that is. And I tried to dissuade her, and
then I realized, wait, I'm talking to a dog, and
(02:38):
the whole thing kind of falls apart on me there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But yeah, they do it pretty big here. I will
admit though that I haven't.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Gone to any of the festivities, but you can just
kind of look in the sky and see a lot
of fireworks around here. So even when we were driving
home from the in laws yesterday, bam, fireworks all the
way home. It's like, there you go, there's your fireworks
for the year.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So Jason, we had a sham champion. Oh yeah, absolute sham.
Brian Finley mentioned it in his update. He just was
this is just outrageous over here, Patrick BERTOLETTI, huh. At
the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest, he got fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now listen, listen to the announcement.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Listen to the sadness in the voice of the announcer
who does an amazing job every year at the hot
dog eating contest over there sponsored by Nathan's.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Check this out.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Fifty eight Nathan's famous hot dog hand bot.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He did a very good job faking it, but he
knows in his heart fifty eight is nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And this was actually Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
He was in his own hot dog eating contest yesterday,
and this is how the final announcement centered on that
one one.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
More time give it up with you, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Joey Johs Chestnut.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It's the new chant, right. It used to be Jerry Reed,
Jerry Reed. Now it's Joey, Joey Chestnut. Jason. He ate
fifty seven hot dogs in about five and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's almost more than.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The fifty eight Patrick Bertoletti he's scarfed down in ten minutes.
Joey had almost as many hot dogs eating eating in
half the time. So this is a sham champion known
as Patrick Bertoletti over here winning without Joey Chestnut, who
we know is the goat in competitive eating.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Don't even know, Well, I see, I don't know if
the people that were going to watch didn't watch because
Joey Chestnut wasn't in it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Because if you're.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Watching that, I don't really know. I don't know a
lot of people that were you planning their day around it,
but you would at least how many because you already
knew he was gonna win year after year and he oh,
he ate sixty eight this year. All right, wow, that's disgusting,
and then you would just move on with the rest
of your day. But the only way that this gets
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salvaged is if there was the grand plan in advance,
set up by Nathan's and whatever company or whatever here
to create a new challenger for Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Because nobody can challenge the guy.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
So you create a guy because Joey chest Nut's not
in it, and then you sell tickets to a Joey
chestnutt versus Bartoletti, you know, Rumble in the Jungle later
in the year, and you end up getting two events
for the price of one.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Because really this is a one day thing.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Maybe you get a second day out of it, unless
you have some grand scheme like this.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yes, this is this is.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
The Rockets winning the championship while Michael Jordan was playing baseball.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's right there, you go, that's a good one. And
yes this was Joey Chestnut. He signed with a rival
company and so he was not allowed to compete at
the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. And that's why we
have our sham champion over here. So I was thinking
of sham champions throughout the years. Jason you mentioned a
(06:05):
good one right there with MJ not in the NBA
in the mid nineties and the champions that happened, you know,
asterisks as far as that goes.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I thought of this and not that long ago, just
about five years ago. This is how it sounded.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Basketball has come full circle in Canada. It was invented
by a Canadian. The first NBA game wasn't Toronto, and
now an NBA championship. You're twenty nineteen NBA champions, the
Toronto Raptors.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
We all know that was a sham.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, you had the Warrior wh I was outstanding,
he was Kawhi was fantastic, But you had Kevin Durant
for twelve minutes of that entire series, and you had
Klay Thompson. Remember he missed Game three, he had the
hamstring issue, and then he tore his ACL in Game six.
There is and this is crazy, like sports, you never know,
(07:03):
they keep you guessing. There is no way the Raptors
win a championship if you have even kd for half
the series, you know, and Clay doesn't go down in
Game six. I hate saying that because injuries are part
of sports, but that was that was a sham championship
by the Raptors. And I don't like saying that because
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to your point, Kawhi was so special, but that is
the truth.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. We will never know,
just because it never played out. But certainly when you
were watching them kind of at full strength, you were
looking at a Raptors team thinking, yeah, probably not not
against this team, but hey, look a lot of people
think it was a sham that Durant was there in
the first place. M yeah, you would go even further back.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, it's uh, that's so weird right at that time
with KD going over there and not getting any credit
for the championships he won. But we've got the at
least I do the imaginary asterisk. When he only played
twelve minutes in that final series against the Raptors, we
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know if he's out there, there's no way Toronto wins.
It was a hot knife through butter the two years
they beat Cleveland and what Kawhi is that powerful where
they still would have won.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I don't buy that for a second.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, he may have been the best player in the
world at that point in time, certainly the argument was there,
But in terms of a team, was he going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Better than that Warriors team? I have my doubts.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
How about any any Super Bowls throughout the years? Anything
else that comes to mind?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
See, I don't know, I'm sure there has been. I'm
trying to think.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I mean, the Jets obviously would have won last year's
Super Bowl had another Hackers going down in the first
game of the season.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh you know, I got one in terms of not
necessarily a Super Bowl champ being but a Super Bowl
competing team, the Rams making it to the Super Bowl
when there was not pass interference called against the Saints.
That was absolutely a sham that the Rams got there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I think that would be one.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
The opposite of a sham would be Nick Foles showing
up and winning a Super Bowl m for Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That would be the opposite of a sham championship.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Because that was they were supposed to be, you know,
dun done as soon as Wentz went down in that
game against the Rams, and well, what we didn't know
at the time was the Carson Wentz experiment was about
to implode for good and Nick Foles was going to
somehow lead the Eagles to beat Tom Brady in a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
How crazy is if someone would have told you that day,
right when Carson Wentz tore his ACL and Philly held
on to win that game. By the way, I was
betting on that game. I remember that very well. And yea,
if someone had told me that day, hey, look here's
the deal. Carson Wentz, he tore his ACL, and just
when you're like, oh, there goes their season, someone said, no, Actually,
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Nick Foles is going to be Super Bowl MVP. And
when Carson Wentz returns from injury, he's gonna be freaking
terrible and he's gonna be a journeyman. He's gonna be
out of the league in a couple of years. I
would have never believed it, but that's exactly how it
went down.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, I mean, I thought everything seemed to be really good,
and you know, he was definitely on the cusp of
being one of those guys that was being talked about
early in his career, and boy, when it fell, it
just just kept on falling and they still managed to
somehow win. Would you call it a sham, No, that's mean.
(10:45):
I'm not really a mean person. Would you call no,
I'm gonna do it anyway. Yeah, did you call it
a sham that Peyton wonted Peyton.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Manning's Super bowls? Hmm? Came against Rex Grossman.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No, I wouldn't go that far, but I liked thought
at the thought right there? How crazy is it? Because
that was I'm trying to think of the score, like
twenty seven, twenty nine to seventeen. Devin Hester returns the
opening kick and that was seven of the bears seventeen
points that day. Right, they didn't do anything offensively that game.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And actually the second of Peyton Manning's championships, I know
this one well, was a Denver Broncos fan came kind
of in spite of Peyton. That's right, it did. How
weird is that too?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And I'm looking at this when the Rams lost to
the Patriots in Super Bowl fifty three, like that was
the sham the Rams even getting there. But that was
in twenty nineteen. Also, that was February of twenty nineteen,
and then just a couple of months later the Raptors
had their sham championship.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So that was twenty nineteen year in jail. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Think about that Super Bowl if it was Patriots Saints.
That's not thirteen if it's Patriots Saints instead of Patriots Rams.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That year was the COVID NBA Bubble Championship asterisk.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I do think so, because the travel, the wear and tear,
it's just different. Everybody was dealing with the same circumstances.
So I don't go full fledged asterisk on that one,
but it was It's just so unique. Nothing else was
even close to that in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, so I got derailed because I looked up and
saw competitive eating highlights happening. I was watching Bertoletti for
just a second. Maybe it's just biased because it's not
like I really remember any highlights from an eating contest
or anything, but I'm watching them. I'm like, oh yeah,
like chestnuts destroying you, Like I'm watching it like I'm
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breaking down a highlight. It's just your speed, your pace
is just so off compared to what it needs to be.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And then on the women's side.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Pseudo she won by like seventeen eighteen hot dogs or
something like that. Why do we even have a field
If one person goes fifty one and breaks the record
and the nearest is thirty five like, what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, it's like old school tiger Woods. Yeah exactly, I'm
just dominant, just like pebble beach. Uso had just walked
away with that thing. She has been crushing it for
a long time, pseudo. She's done a great job. By
the way, it wasn't just competitive eating yesterday, it was
competitive drinking as well. Did you see this Eric Badlands booker,
(13:34):
our guy, He's been in this for a long time.
He drank a gallon of lemonade in twenty one seconds.
I saw that, and I'm like, wow, how do you
drink anything in twenty one seconds?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
A gallon?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
A gallon? Just give it a shot. How long do
you think it would take you to drink a gallon
of anything? So let's just call it lemonade. It takes
me a day and a half to drink a gallon
of lemonade twenty one seconds.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean I could drink it in an afternoon. Yeah,
we'll give you what like five hours.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, I'm not gonna like continually drink it, but like
if I drink a cup every hour and a half
or so, I'd still get it done in a day.
It could easily be done, especially if I'm a kid, right, Like,
if you give me a gallon of kool Aid or
a gallon of echdo cooler high see from back in
the day, Oh man, I would just slam it until
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you stop giving it to me, so you could do it.
But as I've gotten older, it's harder to drink anything
in mass quantities.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, I would always go green kool Aid myself. I'd
go green. That was my drink of choice there with
all the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches I ate as
a younger kid.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Green green kool a. You're talking, what flavor was that? Lime? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, I always said green, green kool Aid. Give me
some green kool Aid.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's funny, like I had so many glasses of green
kool Aid and I haven't had it. I don't know
the last time I've had it. It's had to be
at least ten fifteen, maybe longer that many years. How
can you drink it like daily or I don't know
a lot of it pictures and then haven't had it
for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's kind of weird, isn't it. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Sugar free kool aid back to like even probably five
years ago, I would have that from time to time.
I pretty much knocked it out. Now it's not really
not really a thought now, but it was. It was
there for a time. But right most adults aren't just
crushing crushing kool aid.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They've probably moved on to crystal light.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, it's funny because the spoon used to stand up
straight because of the sugar. And then I was like, okay, almost,
but it needs more sugar, you know what I mean?
Like how much was in the green kool aid way
back when we got a lot to do today? Right
around the corner we got out with the old in
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and we'll see which teams are on the on the
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Speaker 2 (17:15):
So we've got Klay Thompson. He's out.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
He's no longer in Golden State, Jason. He's over there
with the Dallas Mavericks because of a sign in trade
and the Warriors. They have basically replaced Clay with Buddy Healed.
They made a deal with the Sixers sign and trade
they get Buddy Healed over there, So I think it's
disrespectful to say the new splash brother, but in an.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Effort, in effect, that's what it is is.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Buddy Healed is not the newer and improved version of
Klay Thompson. But I mean he will put him up there,
he'll let him fire. If you look at three pointers
since twenty sixteen seventeen, Steph Curry has over twenty one hundred,
Buddy Heald has over nineteen hundred made three point So
they're one two in the NBA and made three pointers
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since twenty sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Look, man, I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I get why the Warriors wanted to move on and
go in a different direction, but what they've done so
far this offseason, they're not any better than where they were.
So I get that you have to move on and
try it surround Steph Curry with more talent, but they've
yet to do that so far.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Here.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, I mean what Healed has three seasons in his
career of forty plus percent from three. He is a
guy that shoots it well from out there, third most
in a league average just a couple of years ago,
hitting four a game. He and maybe he'll even have
more of a green light because they value the three
balls so much in Golden State. But you're right, it
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doesn't like. It doesn't make it better, it makes them
a little younger. That felt about coming off the Actually,
I do know he didn't like coming off the bench.
He did not like having some of his minutes cut.
He didn't like not being in the starting lineup a
couple of times. Even though he said, I've looked at
Manu Genobili, I was wrong. I can be Manu. I
don't think he ever wanted to be. I think that
we know his defense is not what it was. He's
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not second team All NBA defense anymore since the injury.
He's just not quite the same player. Still valuable, but
he's valuable in certain roles. And I think that's where
you get to Dallas. And I can't remember who I
saw made the comparison, but it struck me immediately. He's like, oh, yeah,
that's exactly what this is. It does feel a lot
like Ray Allen when he made that move to Miami,
(19:31):
where he just went down there and he was still
a big piece for them, but it was just different. Well,
now Clay can go be a spot up three point shooter,
which at this point in his career, that's probably his
best bet. Plus he's going to a team that just
made it to the NBA Finals and certainly is going
to be right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
There in the mix to be a contender next year.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see Clay over there,
of course with the Luca and Kyrie Irving, and we
know he can knockdown threes. But I think you also
have to keep this in take this into account, is
what was the compensation, right, Like what did it take
in this sign and trade deal where the Warriors they're
going to receive two second round picks in return for
(20:17):
Klay Thompson and the but the Buddy Healed trade the Sixers,
they're going to receive a second round pick from the
Dallas Mavericks in twenty thirty one.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Like that, it's a second.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Round pick in twenty thirty one. That was the compensation
for Buddy Healed. So bottom line is I don't expect
either of those players, Buddy Healed with the Warriors or
even Clay with Dallas to be big impact players. Some
might push back and say I could see Clay hitting
big shots in big moments Yeah, maybe, But I think
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it's kind of like a reminder. It's a tap on
the shoulder of hey, hey, Klay Thompson has done some
great things in his past with the Warriors. But going forward,
if you're expecting just big impact, even in a you know,
like a role player, that type of role, I just
I don't see it being this huge boom.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Do you see that?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Because I like Ray Allen, he was not this huge
impact player, but he made the biggest shot that we'll
all remember from the corner to keep them alive against
the Spurs.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Could Clay do something like that, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Maybe, but remember he got dealt for two second round picks.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, certainly, I don't know what his you know what's
gonna go down there. But you can also look at
that and say, look, they've got Luca, they've got Kyrie,
some of the pieces that they acquired the trade deadliner,
guys that came in and made an impact. You had Washington,
You can step out and make threes. That's a team
that really likes to shoot the three ball. Klay Thompson
fits into that mix. He creates spacing problems for them
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because he is somebody you have to account for out there.
I think it just I think it's gonna enable him
to just kind of go play basketball. Maybe he needed
to change of scenery. I wouldn't I certainly am with
you when it comes to I wouldn't expect any kind
of like superstar turn or anything from Clay Tops at
this point. His peak is way in the rear view.
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But I do think he can be a helpful piece.
I'm still surprised to some degree. I'm not like, if
you're making the basketball decision, you made the right one,
but I'm still kind of surprising. And he didn't end
up in that ceremonial Lakers uniform with his dad's history
and him being from that city and everything else.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I was. I had thought for at least a year
that that's where he was going to go just to
finish his career.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
And you know, have that time. But it just shows
you right there he does still care to some degree
about winning a title, and maybe maybe he also cares
about the tax rate well.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And he turned down more money because it was reportedly
the Lakers were thinking about a four year, eighty million
dollars deal somewhere in that range, and he got three years,
fifty million dollars with Dallas, so it's you know, one
less year, thirty million dollars less money at least reportedly,
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and he just thought Dallas was a better spot to
compete for a championship.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
That he's absolutely right about that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I just think this too, And I like how you
said that Jason a helpful piece.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I think that's what he can be.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
But I still I go back and the point I'm
trying to make is I think he's.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
More name than game.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I agree with you, right right, because I still remember
in the play in tournament against Sacramento, the last game
he played for Golden State, he was oh for ten,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
She's not even close to the same player he once was.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So I think there's just this this impact in the
minds of a lot of NBA fans where it's like, oh,
it's Klay Thompson. There still is an ooh factor because
of what he's done in the past.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
But man, I'm just not expecting anything big going forward.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Could he hit a couple of clutch shots, Yeah he could,
and that could be his impact. Like how you said it, helpful, peace,
But I just think he's more name than game at
this point. But you mentioned the name. I have to
I can't gloss over this. His dad, Michael Thompson. So
you they are are my sons with Luka Doncic and
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Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And they were just in the finals. I'm excited about this.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
This is actually what he had to say on Sirius
xm NBA Radio, not excited about his son going to Dallas.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I'm really disappointed. I was hoping, hoping as you can,
you can assess that I would he would be a Laker.
And it was close. It came down to the Lakers
and the MAVs, but the MAVs went out. But you
know me, I was hoping and praying he'd finished his
career with the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I respect the honesty right there, just like yeah, I
told him, like go to LA and then he made
his decision on his own went to Dallas. But I'm
really disappointed. I love that dad.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
It's like he should be in purple and gold right now.
But whatever, what do I know? You know, I love
that reaction.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I mean, he's he's a son that had options to
go somewhere other than where his father is, unlike somebody
else that's on the Lakers it's true.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah he did.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
And maybe that's part of it, right, Like, I mean,
Klay Thompson doesn't have to go there. I thought he's
gonna go there just because of, you know, just what
it would mean and him growing up watching his father
and all of those things.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I felt like that was going to carry a lot
of weight.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
But ultimately, I mean, he's made, he's made his name
and his Hall of Fame case in Golden State, and
now he's gonna go somewhere else as one of those
veteran guys that can come in and potentially help a
team that already is ready made to go win a
championship or pretty close to win a championship right now.
(25:48):
And good for him, Like he's just gonna go ahead
and carve his own path. We're gonna know who Klay
Thompson is, not because of Michael Thompson, but because of
Clay Man.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I had a flashback to Jason with Michael Thompson just
to a dose of honesty saying I'm disappointed my son Clote.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I love that he says.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I love that he wanted that, that he cared enough
to want that and would actually just come out and
say it. Because it's not really a harmful thing to say.
He's like, man, I'm bummed. I was hoping I was
gonna get to call some of my son's games.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, well this happened years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
You know when college football players when they're in high
school and they're announcing what college they're going to go to.
I love the reaction of a mother. Now we have
to set it up where it was. Land In Collins.
He's still in the NFL. He's an NFL safety, but
at the time he chose Alabama to do it justice,
you need the build up.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
This is how it sounded on ESPN.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
LSU or Alabama the number one safety in the country.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Land In College will play his ball where it's a
tough decision. Oh, I got both schools here, but I'm
gonna go roll with Tyroe.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Ooh, Alabama gets the number one.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Safety in the country and in Colin. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So it's a great moment, right this and his family's there.
Everyone's like, all right, yeah, I think I recall this. Yes,
I need to go find the video, but I think
I recall this.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
That's right. Everybody except mom.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, this is the Michael Thompson like comments from mom.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
There was not a lot of joy here. Can I
ask why I feel LSU is a better place for
him to be.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Yeah, l number one, Go Tigers.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That is it? Okay? Mom? Yeah he did fine, But
that is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I love the honesty and it's a complete, complete selfish moment,
but I love the honesty where he signs with Bama.
He's going there, LSU Tigers number one, Go Tigers.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That is commitment right there.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Good for her too, like something. Look, man, we do
it different in this part of the country. Like sec
ties might be greater than family ties. If you it's
the wrong school, that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, I know it's my son, but we're talking LSU here.
How's he gonna choose Alabama? Good lord, I'll tell you what.
We choose Brian Finley every time, and we're happy he's
here with us on the day after the fourth Brian
Fenley with the latest.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
What is going on? Be fendly, J Mart and b No.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
It has been a while and it is a nice reunion. Gosh,
it's been a while since I've worked on a show
with you too, And you used to.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Work with me every single week for a couple of years,
and like I was sick about this, Like two weeks ago,
did Fendlely leaf? Because I haven't heard him so long,
I was like, it is Finley gone? And like then, nope,
there you are.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I'm here still light days a week.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
Yeah, I pop in and out and it's it lasts
longer than Chip Kelly. Oh gosh, I'll tell you what.
Finally somebody UCLA who wants to recruit. That's that's for sure.
But you guys were talking about a variety of different things.
We got to the Major League eating in a moment.
But Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott was seen recently wearing a
walking boom photo of that was servicing he was on vacation.
(29:04):
And don't fret though, because it was just, according to ESPN,
a minor foot sprain. He will be ready to go
with no limitations at the start of training. Camlets now
go to Major League eating and yeah, the Patrick Bertoletti
wins an Athens hot dog eating contest as he shoved
down fifty eight hot dogs and buns. He did it
(29:24):
in ten minutes and eating legend Joey Chestnut. There's no
other way to describe him. In eating legend and in
a separate fundraising event yesterday, he went for fifty seven
hot dogs in five minutes. So if we do the math,
there one hot dog less in half the time. He
barked afterwards. Quote runners have to run, fighters have to fight,
(29:46):
Eaters have to.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Eat close quote.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
Incredible quote that just resonates with all of us.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Micky Pseudo wins the women's title.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
By the way, if you're interested in that hot dog
eating contest, and it was Eric Badle book or the
fifty five year old. He's also a rapper and comedian.
Put a lot of training into his lemonaded chugging. He
set a record by slobbering down a gallon of lemonade
in twenty one minutes Major League Baseball twenty one second,
twenty one second.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Twenty one minute.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I honestly think I could probably get you think so
if you maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, I could do it
twenty one seconds.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
No, yeah, no, twenty one seconds is insane.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
It's right, It is definitely insane. And I wonder how
much he didn't drink anything before that event.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'd be curious to know. I wouldn't drink anything for
three weeks if I hit that in twenty one second, Yeah,
that's a good point. Diamondbacks.
Speaker 9 (30:41):
They closed line the Dodgers nine to three, Christian Walker
two home runs the Royals. They come up short ten
to eight against the Rays. Also wins for the Mariners, Giants,
and Padres. And lastly, Argentina survives Ecuador four to two
in penalty kicks after the one to one tide they
wanted to penalty kicks and Argentina advances to the semis
(31:04):
of the Copa America quarterfinals.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
With that, let's bounce it back over to j mart.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
And b No.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
All right, thank you, b Fendley. It is two bros
and a cup of joe. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian though.
We're in for the crew here today, and Jason, we
were talking about sham championships, right, Brian Finley was just
talking about the hot dog eating contest and how you
know there was no Joey chestnutt at the Nathan's Hot
Dog Eating Contest because he signed with the rival organization.
(31:37):
So you had the quote unquote champion eat fifty eight
hot dogs in almost half the time Joey in a
separate contest eight fifty seven. So this is a sham
champion known as Patrick bert Lettie. Sorry, it sounds hardy reality.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
If you're Patrick Burtle. But whatever do you Valery Bertinellie, Like.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Do you do you even do an interview with that
point in Tom or you just you just kind of
slink off.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I know it feels like take your belt and you're like, look,
I understand who I am and who I'm not.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, you just have to apologize the whole time. It's
just I'm sorry. You know, we all know who the
champion is and it's a shame he's not here, right,
You almost like stare at the floor. Yes, I will
take this belt, even though I know it's astrisk city
over here. But we were talking about sham championships. A
couple of people checked in on X the KC car hauler.
(32:31):
He wrote the Patriots super Bowl, The Patriots appearance in
Super Bowl fifty three is a sham. Still mad at
d Ford?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Now I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
It's diehard chief. It's not a sham that they went
and won it. But I get it right. D Ford
was offside negated an interception thrown by Tom Brady on
the road in the AFC title game against Kansas City.
Think how differently things would have gone down, and how
we would remember Tom Brad if d Ford wasn't offside.
(33:02):
It's crazy how much changed there.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, that's a good one. That was another one of
was that the overtime one.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, that was the overtime game where.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I again got to put out my worst thing in
sports being you know, whoever wins a coin toss or
not always going to the super Bowl in that moment
because neither defense was stopping whoever won the coin toss.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Man, things have changed so much since then. Think how
much Kansas City has had to do with the overtime
rules being altered, because it was just a couple of
years later where Casey was on the winning end, right, like,
they got the ball and they scored a touchdown against
the Bills, and now both teams are guaranteed a possession.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
A lot has changed.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
How about this from Perito to twenty seventeen Astros biggest sham?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
That is a great call, right.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Man, That's that's a sham for a different reason. That's
like Lance Armstrong sham.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But yeah, yeah, banging on trash cans, cheating the whole scam.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, that's a great USA Russia basketball. Oh man? That
what year was that I can't remember, but.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
It was Doug Collins was on the team. Yeah, and
I think Hank Ibo was the head coach for the US.
I've watched the documentary on it, and I mean, obviously
I wasn't alive during that time for him to have
seen it, but woo boy, you want to talk about
the fix.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Being in Oh dude, it was crazy what happened there.
And I love that Team USA never went there to
get their silver medals. It looks like it was seventy two. Yeah,
I believe that was all right about right around that time. Yeah,
that's wild right there.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
No doubt all.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
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So it was official on July one, just a couple
of days ago, Jason. Where Texas and Oklahoma, Yeah, they
became official members of the SEC. And of course in
college football, that's where you and I hone in on, right.
(35:46):
I think these are two smaller fish in a big
pond right now. Man, I look at Oklahoma's schedule, Jason,
and it's pretty rough. So you get Tennessee, they won
nine games last season. We're at LSU. LSU won ten games.
Oklahoma is at Old Miss at Missouri. Both those teams
(36:06):
won eleven games last season. And then you get Texas
and Alabama, you get them at home. Both those teams
won twelve games last season. That is a tough schedule
for Oklahoma, a little more manageable for Texas. But they're
at Michigan who won it all, and they're tougher games.
You get Oklahoma and you also get Georgia. It's to me,
(36:29):
it's good luck in the SEC, because we all know
life is very, very difficult in that conference.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Those teams had a hard time in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Getting to the College Football Playoff winning championships. They got
to the playoff a couple of times, never won a
championship in that era. I think their work is more
than cut out for themselves joining the SEC. How do
you go from big fish, small pond in the Big
Twelve not winning it all, and now you're supposed to
win it all in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I don't see that happening at all.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Well, look, Texas had a great year last year. They're
in position to have another good year. But then you
what you're saying is right. It's kind of like before
I had kids, I would talk to parents, friends and
things like that, and.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
They'd just be like, man, you just don't understand until
you have a kid.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You just don't get it. Like it's just it's different.
You can't prepare for it. It's not you can't take
a class to get ready for it. It's like until
you're up at two am and your daughter won't go
to sleep, and you're on viumes and all of these.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Kinds of things.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
And now the same kind of stories means that you
just don't know what's coming when they become a teenager.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Because my oldest is three right.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Now, it's kind of the same thing. It's like, man,
you know college football. I know you've seen a couple
of these teams in the postseason and things like that,
but till you figure out how hard it is every
Saturday when you're playing on the road at Ole Miss
and you're playing down in the swamp and you're playing
in Knoxville and all this, it's just different and you
(38:02):
can't prepare for it. So I think that's what it is.
Oklahoma just gave Venables an extension, which I was kind
of surprised by. Texas I think is more ready for this,
even though you would have thought it would have been Oklahoma.
But sark really had a good year last year, and
I do feel like they're gonna walk in and they're
they're a good, really good football team. I just want
(38:24):
to know whether or not they're cool with fairly regularly
being a three lost kind of team because that's just
how it rolls in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Even I mean, George is not gonna tell you they
walk through everybody like it's easy. Bama's not gonna tell
you they walk through everybody like it's easy. None of
those champions had it easy, even if they were better
than everybody else. Those are wars in the South East
and in the Southeast, and it's it ain't gonna get
any easier like what they just had.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
It's going to feel like they went from the miners
to the majors in a lot of ways. Even if
you want to argue, and you might be right from
a competitive standpoint in terms of the that.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You would see.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I mean, the Big Twelve over the last couple of
years has been pretty good, Like it was fun to watch,
and there were a lot of teams in the mixture
at TCU elevating their play and all this, but it's
just different, like you just don't know until you get
to the SEC. It's the same story as you don't
know until you have kids. You just don't know until
you actually start this thing. So they're gonna learn, and
(39:22):
it's there will be a learning curve involved.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
If I we just look at Texas's schedule and we
both agree it's more manageable than oklahoma schedule this year.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And they're better. Yeah, and they're better.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
But the thing is, it's not just the top teams
that you face. It's not just well, you got Oklahoma
and you get Georgia. It's the NFL talent on these
lesser teams that is still there. If you look at
Texas's schedule, just their last four games, hosting Florida at Arkansas,
(39:56):
you host Kentucky at Texas, A and M. Like, none
of those teams won more than seven games last season.
Florida was five and seven. But the talent that you
have where you're at, like while we've got Florida this
week and then we're at Arkansas, it's manageable. But the
talent that you're up against, that's what's tough about the SEC.
(40:17):
It's not just the top teams that are obviously difficult
to get around and get passed. It's these lesser teams
that still have a lot of talent. They're just up
against it, going up against the rest of the conference.
I think that's what makes life a lot more difficult
in the SEC for Texas and Oklahoma. It's the middling
teams that are still really good. They're a lot better
(40:41):
than we think they are, just because their record isn't
as good. But those are tough outs and some of
those atmospheres. It is not a lay up at all.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
I mean, you kind of went from the old NBA
East to the NBA West.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah. Right, that's a good way to put it. I
like that right there, all right.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Coming up next, Jason is in control, steer in the
ship next hour.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Very excited to see where we go. Let's all find out.
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Man, you talk about an absolute sham championship.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
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Happy day after the fourth was your fourth?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Good? Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's really hot where I am here in Nashville. It's
like somewhere between one oh five and one ten. Goodre
dex yesterday. So like we were, we we did we
decided not to actually endeavor to the pool because it also.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Meant being outside. Yeah. Wow, So we actually just stayed
in because of how hot it was. But outside of that.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, it was a pretty good day. I was yours
pretty good. Yeah, it's uh, we're no mad's over here.
So in Champagne, Illinois as we speak, and it was
a little cooler than normal, and uh, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We made it out.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
We went to fireworks. It's at the University of Illinois.
Last year it was a great display. This year it
was freaking brutal, but it was free. It's free, so
all right, Yeah, is this real slow? I've made it
to fireworks a couple of times in Nashville, and man,
they go crazy. There was one year felt like it
(02:09):
was the Grand Finale for about twenty minutes.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It was crazy. They go all out over there. Yeah.
My dog is terrified.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Still hasn't been able to hasn't been able to go
outside since yesterday afternoon, just like paralyzed. Tried to take
her out three times last night. She was not having
any of it. She would go out there and she's
kind of look at me like, no, I don't know
what that is. And I tried to dissuade her, and
then I realized, wait, I'm talking to a dog, and
(02:38):
the whole thing kind of falls apart on me there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But yeah, they do it pretty big here. I will
admit though that I haven't.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Gone to any of the festivities, but you can just
kind of look in the sky and see a lot
of fireworks around here. So even when we were driving
home from the in laws yesterday, bam, fireworks all the
way home. It's like, there you go, there's your fireworks
for the year.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So Jason, we had a sham champion. Oh yeah, absolute sham.
Brian Finley mentioned it in his update. He just was
this is just outrageous over here, Patrick BERTOLETTI, huh. At
the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest, he got fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now listen, listen to the announcement.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Listen to the sadness in the voice of the announcer
who does an amazing job every year at the hot
dog eating contest over there sponsored by Nathan's.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Check this out.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Fifty eight Nathan's famous hot dog hand bot.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He did a very good job faking it, but he
knows in his heart fifty eight is nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And this was actually Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
He was in his own hot dog eating contest yesterday,
and this is how the final announcement centered on that
one one.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
More time give it up with you, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Joey Johs Chestnut.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It's the new chant, right. It used to be Jerry Reed,
Jerry Reed. Now it's Joey, Joey Chestnut. Jason. He ate
fifty seven hot dogs in about five and a half minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's almost more than.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The fifty eight Patrick Bertoletti he's scarfed down in ten minutes.
Joey had almost as many hot dogs eating eating in
half the time. So this is a sham champion known
as Patrick Bertoletti over here winning without Joey Chestnut, who
we know is the goat in competitive eating.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Don't even know, Well, I see, I don't know if
the people that were going to watch didn't watch because
Joey Chestnut wasn't in it.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Because if you're.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Watching that, I don't really know. I don't know a
lot of people that were you planning their day around it,
but you would at least how many because you already
knew he was gonna win year after year and he oh,
he ate sixty eight this year. All right, wow, that's disgusting,
and then you would just move on with the rest
of your day. But the only way that this gets
(05:05):
salvaged is if there was the grand plan in advance,
set up by Nathan's and whatever company or whatever here
to create a new challenger for Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Because nobody can challenge the guy.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
So you create a guy because Joey chest Nut's not
in it, and then you sell tickets to a Joey
chestnutt versus Bartoletti, you know, Rumble in the Jungle later
in the year, and you end up getting two events
for the price of one.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Because really this is a one day thing.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Maybe you get a second day out of it, unless
you have some grand scheme like this.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yes, this is this is.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
The Rockets winning the championship while Michael Jordan was playing baseball.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's right there, you go, that's a good one. And
yes this was Joey Chestnut. He signed with a rival
company and so he was not allowed to compete at
the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. And that's why we
have our sham champion over here. So I was thinking
of sham champions throughout the years. Jason you mentioned a
(06:05):
good one right there with MJ not in the NBA
in the mid nineties and the champions that happened, you know,
asterisks as far as that goes.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I thought of this and not that long ago, just
about five years ago. This is how it sounded.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Basketball has come full circle in Canada. It was invented
by a Canadian. The first NBA game wasn't Toronto, and
now an NBA championship. You're twenty nineteen NBA champions, the
Toronto Raptors.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
We all know that was a sham.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, you had the Warrior wh I was outstanding,
he was Kawhi was fantastic, But you had Kevin Durant
for twelve minutes of that entire series, and you had
Klay Thompson. Remember he missed Game three, he had the
hamstring issue, and then he tore his ACL in Game six.
There is and this is crazy, like sports, you never know,
(07:03):
they keep you guessing. There is no way the Raptors
win a championship if you have even kd for half
the series, you know, and Clay doesn't go down in
Game six. I hate saying that because injuries are part
of sports, but that was that was a sham championship
by the Raptors. And I don't like saying that because
(07:24):
to your point, Kawhi was so special, but that is
the truth.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're right. We will never know,
just because it never played out. But certainly when you
were watching them kind of at full strength, you were
looking at a Raptors team thinking, yeah, probably not not
against this team, but hey, look a lot of people
think it was a sham that Durant was there in
the first place. M yeah, you would go even further back.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
That's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, it's uh, that's so weird right at that time
with KD going over there and not getting any credit
for the championships he won. But we've got the at
least I do the imaginary asterisk. When he only played
twelve minutes in that final series against the Raptors, we
(08:12):
know if he's out there, there's no way Toronto wins.
It was a hot knife through butter the two years
they beat Cleveland and what Kawhi is that powerful where
they still would have won.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I don't buy that for a second.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, he may have been the best player in the
world at that point in time, certainly the argument was there,
But in terms of a team, was he going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Better than that Warriors team? I have my doubts.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
How about any any Super Bowls throughout the years? Anything
else that comes to mind?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
See, I don't know, I'm sure there has been. I'm
trying to think.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I mean, the Jets obviously would have won last year's
Super Bowl had another Hackers going down in the first
game of the season.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh you know, I got one in terms of not
necessarily a Super Bowl champ being but a Super Bowl
competing team, the Rams making it to the Super Bowl
when there was not pass interference called against the Saints.
That was absolutely a sham that the Rams got there.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, I think that would be one.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
The opposite of a sham would be Nick Foles showing
up and winning a Super Bowl m for Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That would be the opposite of a sham championship.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Because that was they were supposed to be, you know,
dun done as soon as Wentz went down in that
game against the Rams, and well, what we didn't know
at the time was the Carson Wentz experiment was about
to implode for good and Nick Foles was going to
somehow lead the Eagles to beat Tom Brady in a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
How crazy is if someone would have told you that day,
right when Carson Wentz tore his ACL and Philly held
on to win that game. By the way, I was
betting on that game. I remember that very well. And yea,
if someone had told me that day, hey, look here's
the deal. Carson Wentz, he tore his ACL, and just
when you're like, oh, there goes their season, someone said, no, Actually,
(10:09):
Nick Foles is going to be Super Bowl MVP. And
when Carson Wentz returns from injury, he's gonna be freaking
terrible and he's gonna be a journeyman. He's gonna be
out of the league in a couple of years. I
would have never believed it, but that's exactly how it
went down.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, I mean, I thought everything seemed to be really good,
and you know, he was definitely on the cusp of
being one of those guys that was being talked about
early in his career, and boy, when it fell, it
just just kept on falling and they still managed to
somehow win. Would you call it a sham, No, that's mean.
(10:45):
I'm not really a mean person. Would you call no,
I'm gonna do it anyway. Yeah, did you call it
a sham that Peyton wonted Peyton.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Manning's Super bowls? Hmm? Came against Rex Grossman.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No, I wouldn't go that far, but I liked thought
at the thought right there? How crazy is it? Because
that was I'm trying to think of the score, like
twenty seven, twenty nine to seventeen. Devin Hester returns the
opening kick and that was seven of the bears seventeen
points that day. Right, they didn't do anything offensively that game.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And actually the second of Peyton Manning's championships, I know
this one well, was a Denver Broncos fan came kind
of in spite of Peyton. That's right, it did. How
weird is that too?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And I'm looking at this when the Rams lost to
the Patriots in Super Bowl fifty three, like that was
the sham the Rams even getting there. But that was
in twenty nineteen. Also, that was February of twenty nineteen,
and then just a couple of months later the Raptors
had their sham championship.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So that was twenty nineteen year in jail. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Think about that Super Bowl if it was Patriots Saints.
That's not thirteen if it's Patriots Saints instead of Patriots Rams.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
That year was the COVID NBA Bubble Championship asterisk.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I do think so, because the travel, the wear and tear,
it's just different. Everybody was dealing with the same circumstances.
So I don't go full fledged asterisk on that one,
but it was It's just so unique. Nothing else was
even close to that in the history of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, so I got derailed because I looked up and
saw competitive eating highlights happening. I was watching Bertoletti for
just a second. Maybe it's just biased because it's not
like I really remember any highlights from an eating contest
or anything, but I'm watching them. I'm like, oh yeah,
like chestnuts destroying you, Like I'm watching it like I'm
(12:50):
breaking down a highlight. It's just your speed, your pace
is just so off compared to what it needs to be.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And then on the women's side.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Pseudo she won by like seventeen eighteen hot dogs or
something like that. Why do we even have a field
If one person goes fifty one and breaks the record
and the nearest is thirty five like, what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, it's like old school tiger Woods. Yeah exactly, I'm
just dominant, just like pebble beach. Uso had just walked
away with that thing. She has been crushing it for
a long time, pseudo. She's done a great job. By
the way, it wasn't just competitive eating yesterday, it was
competitive drinking as well. Did you see this Eric Badlands booker,
(13:34):
our guy, He's been in this for a long time.
He drank a gallon of lemonade in twenty one seconds.
I saw that, and I'm like, wow, how do you
drink anything in twenty one seconds?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
A gallon?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
A gallon? Just give it a shot. How long do
you think it would take you to drink a gallon
of anything? So let's just call it lemonade. It takes
me a day and a half to drink a gallon
of lemonade twenty one seconds.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean I could drink it in an afternoon. Yeah,
we'll give you what like five hours.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, I'm not gonna like continually drink it, but like
if I drink a cup every hour and a half
or so, I'd still get it done in a day.
It could easily be done, especially if I'm a kid, right, Like,
if you give me a gallon of kool Aid or
a gallon of echdo cooler high see from back in
the day, Oh man, I would just slam it until
(14:25):
you stop giving it to me, so you could do it.
But as I've gotten older, it's harder to drink anything
in mass quantities.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, I would always go green kool Aid myself. I'd
go green. That was my drink of choice there with
all the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches I ate as
a younger kid.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Green green kool a. You're talking, what flavor was that? Lime? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, I always said green, green kool Aid. Give me
some green kool Aid.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's funny, like I had so many glasses of green
kool Aid and I haven't had it. I don't know
the last time I've had it. It's had to be
at least ten fifteen, maybe longer that many years. How
can you drink it like daily or I don't know
a lot of it pictures and then haven't had it
for fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's kind of weird, isn't it. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Sugar free kool aid back to like even probably five
years ago, I would have that from time to time.
I pretty much knocked it out. Now it's not really
not really a thought now, but it was. It was
there for a time. But right most adults aren't just
crushing crushing kool aid.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They've probably moved on to crystal light.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, it's funny because the spoon used to stand up
straight because of the sugar. And then I was like, okay, almost,
but it needs more sugar, you know what I mean?
Like how much was in the green kool aid way
back when we got a lot to do today? Right
around the corner we got out with the old in
(15:56):
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and we'll see which teams are on the on the
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Speaker 3 (17:09):
We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe
here live from the Tyreck dot Com Studios.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So we've got Klay Thompson. He's out.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
He's no longer in Golden State, Jason. He's over there
with the Dallas Mavericks because of a sign in trade
and the Warriors. They have basically replaced Clay with Buddy Healed.
They made a deal with the Sixers sign and trade
they get Buddy Healed over there, So I think it's
disrespectful to say the new splash brother, but in an.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Effort, in effect, that's what it is is.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Buddy Healed is not the newer and improved version of
Klay Thompson. But I mean he will put him up there,
he'll let him fire. If you look at three pointers
since twenty sixteen seventeen, Steph Curry has over twenty one hundred,
Buddy Heald has over nineteen hundred made three point So
they're one two in the NBA and made three pointers
(18:04):
since twenty sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Look, man, I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I get why the Warriors wanted to move on and
go in a different direction, but what they've done so
far this offseason, they're not any better than where they were.
So I get that you have to move on and
try it surround Steph Curry with more talent, but they've
yet to do that so far.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Here.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, I mean what Healed has three seasons in his
career of forty plus percent from three. He is a
guy that shoots it well from out there, third most
in a league average just a couple of years ago,
hitting four a game. He and maybe he'll even have
more of a green light because they value the three
balls so much in Golden State. But you're right, it
(18:47):
doesn't like. It doesn't make it better, it makes them
a little younger. That felt about coming off the Actually,
I do know he didn't like coming off the bench.
He did not like having some of his minutes cut.
He didn't like not being in the starting lineup a
couple of times. Even though he said, I've looked at
Manu Genobili, I was wrong. I can be Manu. I
don't think he ever wanted to be. I think that
we know his defense is not what it was. He's
(19:09):
not second team All NBA defense anymore since the injury.
He's just not quite the same player. Still valuable, but
he's valuable in certain roles. And I think that's where
you get to Dallas. And I can't remember who I
saw made the comparison, but it struck me immediately. He's like, oh, yeah,
that's exactly what this is. It does feel a lot
like Ray Allen when he made that move to Miami,
(19:31):
where he just went down there and he was still
a big piece for them, but it was just different. Well,
now Clay can go be a spot up three point shooter,
which at this point in his career, that's probably his
best bet. Plus he's going to a team that just
made it to the NBA Finals and certainly is going
to be right.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
There in the mix to be a contender next year.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see Clay over there,
of course with the Luca and Kyrie Irving, and we
know he can knockdown threes. But I think you also
have to keep this in take this into account, is
what was the compensation, right, Like what did it take
in this sign and trade deal where the Warriors they're
going to receive two second round picks in return for
(20:17):
Klay Thompson and the but the Buddy Healed trade the Sixers,
they're going to receive a second round pick from the
Dallas Mavericks in twenty thirty one.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Like that, it's a second.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Round pick in twenty thirty one. That was the compensation
for Buddy Healed. So bottom line is I don't expect
either of those players, Buddy Healed with the Warriors or
even Clay with Dallas to be big impact players. Some
might push back and say I could see Clay hitting
big shots in big moments Yeah, maybe, But I think
(20:51):
it's kind of like a reminder. It's a tap on
the shoulder of hey, hey, Klay Thompson has done some
great things in his past with the Warriors. But going forward,
if you're expecting just big impact, even in a you know,
like a role player, that type of role, I just
I don't see it being this huge boom.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Do you see that?
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Because I like Ray Allen, he was not this huge
impact player, but he made the biggest shot that we'll
all remember from the corner to keep them alive against
the Spurs.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Could Clay do something like that, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Maybe, but remember he got dealt for two second round picks.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, certainly, I don't know what his you know what's
gonna go down there. But you can also look at
that and say, look, they've got Luca, they've got Kyrie,
some of the pieces that they acquired the trade deadliner,
guys that came in and made an impact. You had Washington,
You can step out and make threes. That's a team
that really likes to shoot the three ball. Klay Thompson
fits into that mix. He creates spacing problems for them
(21:54):
because he is somebody you have to account for out there.
I think it just I think it's gonna enable him
to just kind of go play basketball. Maybe he needed
to change of scenery. I wouldn't I certainly am with
you when it comes to I wouldn't expect any kind
of like superstar turn or anything from Clay Tops at
this point. His peak is way in the rear view.
(22:16):
But I do think he can be a helpful piece.
I'm still surprised to some degree. I'm not like, if
you're making the basketball decision, you made the right one,
but I'm still kind of surprising. And he didn't end
up in that ceremonial Lakers uniform with his dad's history
and him being from that city and everything else.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I was. I had thought for at least a year
that that's where he was going to go just to
finish his career.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
And you know, have that time. But it just shows
you right there he does still care to some degree
about winning a title, and maybe maybe he also cares
about the tax rate well.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And he turned down more money because it was reportedly
the Lakers were thinking about a four year, eighty million
dollars deal somewhere in that range, and he got three years,
fifty million dollars with Dallas, so it's you know, one
less year, thirty million dollars less money at least reportedly,
(23:13):
and he just thought Dallas was a better spot to
compete for a championship.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
That he's absolutely right about that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I just think this too, And I like how you
said that Jason a helpful piece.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I think that's what he can be.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
But I still I go back and the point I'm
trying to make is I think he's.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
More name than game.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I agree with you, right right, because I still remember
in the play in tournament against Sacramento, the last game
he played for Golden State, he was oh for ten,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
She's not even close to the same player he once was.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So I think there's just this this impact in the
minds of a lot of NBA fans where it's like, oh,
it's Klay Thompson. There still is an ooh factor because
of what he's done in the past.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
But man, I'm just not expecting anything big going forward.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Could he hit a couple of clutch shots, Yeah he could,
and that could be his impact. Like how you said it, helpful, peace,
But I just think he's more name than game at
this point. But you mentioned the name. I have to
I can't gloss over this. His dad, Michael Thompson. So
you they are are my sons with Luka Doncic and
(24:20):
Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And they were just in the finals. I'm excited about this.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
This is actually what he had to say on Sirius
xm NBA Radio, not excited about his son going to Dallas.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I'm really disappointed. I was hoping, hoping as you can,
you can assess that I would he would be a Laker.
And it was close. It came down to the Lakers
and the MAVs, but the MAVs went out. But you
know me, I was hoping and praying he'd finished his
career with the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I respect the honesty right there, just like yeah, I
told him, like go to LA and then he made
his decision on his own went to Dallas. But I'm
really disappointed. I love that dad.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
It's like he should be in purple and gold right now.
But whatever, what do I know? You know, I love
that reaction.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I mean, he's he's a son that had options to
go somewhere other than where his father is, unlike somebody
else that's on the Lakers it's true.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, yeah he did.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
And maybe that's part of it, right, Like, I mean,
Klay Thompson doesn't have to go there. I thought he's
gonna go there just because of, you know, just what
it would mean and him growing up watching his father
and all of those things.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I felt like that was going to carry a lot
of weight.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
But ultimately, I mean, he's made, he's made his name
and his Hall of Fame case in Golden State, and
now he's gonna go somewhere else as one of those
veteran guys that can come in and potentially help a
team that already is ready made to go win a
championship or pretty close to win a championship right now.
(25:48):
And good for him, Like he's just gonna go ahead
and carve his own path. We're gonna know who Klay
Thompson is, not because of Michael Thompson, but because of
Clay Man.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I had a flashback to Jason with Michael Thompson just
to a dose of honesty saying I'm disappointed my son Clote.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I love that he says.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I love that he wanted that, that he cared enough
to want that and would actually just come out and
say it. Because it's not really a harmful thing to say.
He's like, man, I'm bummed. I was hoping I was
gonna get to call some of my son's games.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, well this happened years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
You know when college football players when they're in high
school and they're announcing what college they're going to go to.
I love the reaction of a mother. Now we have
to set it up where it was. Land In Collins.
He's still in the NFL. He's an NFL safety, but
at the time he chose Alabama to do it justice,
you need the build up.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
This is how it sounded on ESPN.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
LSU or Alabama the number one safety in the country.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Land In College will play his ball where it's a
tough decision. Oh, I got both schools here, but I'm
gonna go roll with Tyroe.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Ooh, Alabama gets the number one.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Safety in the country and in Colin. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
So it's a great moment, right this and his family's there.
Everyone's like, all right, yeah, I think I recall this. Yes,
I need to go find the video, but I think
I recall this.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
That's right. Everybody except mom.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, this is the Michael Thompson like comments from mom.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
There was not a lot of joy here. Can I
ask why I feel LSU is a better place for
him to be.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Yeah, l number one, Go Tigers.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
That is it? Okay? Mom? Yeah he did fine, But
that is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I love the honesty and it's a complete, complete selfish moment,
but I love the honesty where he signs with Bama.
He's going there, LSU Tigers number one, Go Tigers.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That is commitment right there.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Good for her too, like something. Look, man, we do
it different in this part of the country. Like sec
ties might be greater than family ties. If you it's
the wrong school, that's right.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, I know it's my son, but we're talking LSU here.
How's he gonna choose Alabama? Good lord, I'll tell you what.
We choose Brian Finley every time, and we're happy he's
here with us on the day after the fourth Brian
Fenley with the latest.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
What is going on? Be fendly, J Mart and b No.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
It has been a while and it is a nice reunion. Gosh,
it's been a while since I've worked on a show
with you too, And you used to.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
Work with me every single week for a couple of years,
and like I was sick about this, Like two weeks ago,
did Fendlely leaf? Because I haven't heard him so long,
I was like, it is Finley gone? And like then, nope,
there you are.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I'm here still light days a week.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
Yeah, I pop in and out and it's it lasts
longer than Chip Kelly. Oh gosh, I'll tell you what.
Finally somebody UCLA who wants to recruit. That's that's for sure.
But you guys were talking about a variety of different things.
We got to the Major League eating in a moment.
But Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott was seen recently wearing a
walking boom photo of that was servicing he was on vacation.
(29:04):
And don't fret though, because it was just, according to ESPN,
a minor foot sprain. He will be ready to go
with no limitations at the start of training. Camlets now
go to Major League eating and yeah, the Patrick Bertoletti
wins an Athens hot dog eating contest as he shoved
down fifty eight hot dogs and buns. He did it
(29:24):
in ten minutes and eating legend Joey Chestnut. There's no
other way to describe him. In eating legend and in
a separate fundraising event yesterday, he went for fifty seven
hot dogs in five minutes. So if we do the math,
there one hot dog less in half the time. He
barked afterwards. Quote runners have to run, fighters have to fight,
(29:46):
Eaters have to.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Eat close quote.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
Incredible quote that just resonates with all of us.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Micky Pseudo wins the women's title.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
By the way, if you're interested in that hot dog
eating contest, and it was Eric Badle book or the
fifty five year old. He's also a rapper and comedian.
Put a lot of training into his lemonaded chugging. He
set a record by slobbering down a gallon of lemonade
in twenty one minutes Major League Baseball twenty one second,
twenty one second.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Twenty one minute.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I honestly think I could probably get you think so
if you maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, I could do it
twenty one seconds.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
No, yeah, no, twenty one seconds is insane.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
It's right, It is definitely insane. And I wonder how
much he didn't drink anything before that event.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'd be curious to know. I wouldn't drink anything for
three weeks if I hit that in twenty one second, Yeah,
that's a good point. Diamondbacks.
Speaker 9 (30:41):
They closed line the Dodgers nine to three, Christian Walker
two home runs the Royals. They come up short ten
to eight against the Rays. Also wins for the Mariners, Giants,
and Padres. And lastly, Argentina survives Ecuador four to two
in penalty kicks after the one to one tide they
wanted to penalty kicks and Argentina advances to the semis
(31:04):
of the Copa America quarterfinals.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
With that, let's bounce it back over to j mart.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
And b No.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
All right, thank you, b Fendley. It is two bros
and a cup of joe. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian though.
We're in for the crew here today, and Jason, we
were talking about sham championships, right, Brian Finley was just
talking about the hot dog eating contest and how you
know there was no Joey chestnutt at the Nathan's Hot
Dog Eating Contest because he signed with the rival organization.
(31:37):
So you had the quote unquote champion eat fifty eight
hot dogs in almost half the time Joey in a
separate contest eight fifty seven. So this is a sham
champion known as Patrick bert Lettie. Sorry, it sounds hardy reality.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
If you're Patrick Burtle. But whatever do you Valery Bertinellie, Like.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Do you do you even do an interview with that
point in Tom or you just you just kind of
slink off.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
I know it feels like take your belt and you're like, look,
I understand who I am and who I'm not.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, you just have to apologize the whole time. It's
just I'm sorry. You know, we all know who the
champion is and it's a shame he's not here, right,
You almost like stare at the floor. Yes, I will
take this belt, even though I know it's astrisk city
over here. But we were talking about sham championships. A
couple of people checked in on X the KC car hauler.
(32:31):
He wrote the Patriots super Bowl, The Patriots appearance in
Super Bowl fifty three is a sham. Still mad at
d Ford?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Now I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
It's diehard chief. It's not a sham that they went
and won it. But I get it right. D Ford
was offside negated an interception thrown by Tom Brady on
the road in the AFC title game against Kansas City.
Think how differently things would have gone down, and how
we would remember Tom Brad if d Ford wasn't offside.
(33:02):
It's crazy how much changed there.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Yeah, that's a good one. That was another one of
was that the overtime one.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, that was the overtime game where.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I again got to put out my worst thing in
sports being you know, whoever wins a coin toss or
not always going to the super Bowl in that moment
because neither defense was stopping whoever won the coin toss.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Man, things have changed so much since then. Think how
much Kansas City has had to do with the overtime
rules being altered, because it was just a couple of
years later where Casey was on the winning end, right, like,
they got the ball and they scored a touchdown against
the Bills, and now both teams are guaranteed a possession.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
A lot has changed.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
How about this from Perito to twenty seventeen Astros biggest sham?
Speaker 2 (33:49):
That is a great call, right.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Man, That's that's a sham for a different reason. That's
like Lance Armstrong sham.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But yeah, yeah, banging on trash cans, cheating the whole scam.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, that's a great USA Russia basketball. Oh man? That
what year was that I can't remember, but.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
It was Doug Collins was on the team. Yeah, and
I think Hank Ibo was the head coach for the US.
I've watched the documentary on it, and I mean, obviously
I wasn't alive during that time for him to have
seen it, but woo boy, you want to talk about
the fix.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Being in Oh dude, it was crazy what happened there.
And I love that Team USA never went there to
get their silver medals. It looks like it was seventy two. Yeah,
I believe that was all right about right around that time. Yeah,
that's wild right there.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
No doubt all.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
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see the show posted right after we get off the air.
So it was official on July one, just a couple
of days ago, Jason. Where Texas and Oklahoma, Yeah, they
became official members of the SEC. And of course in
college football, that's where you and I hone in on, right.
(35:46):
I think these are two smaller fish in a big
pond right now. Man, I look at Oklahoma's schedule, Jason,
and it's pretty rough. So you get Tennessee, they won
nine games last season. We're at LSU. LSU won ten games.
Oklahoma is at Old Miss at Missouri. Both those teams
(36:06):
won eleven games last season. And then you get Texas
and Alabama, you get them at home. Both those teams
won twelve games last season. That is a tough schedule
for Oklahoma, a little more manageable for Texas. But they're
at Michigan who won it all, and they're tougher games.
You get Oklahoma and you also get Georgia. It's to me,
(36:29):
it's good luck in the SEC, because we all know
life is very, very difficult in that conference.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Those teams had a hard time in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Getting to the College Football Playoff winning championships. They got
to the playoff a couple of times, never won a
championship in that era. I think their work is more
than cut out for themselves joining the SEC. How do
you go from big fish, small pond in the Big
Twelve not winning it all, and now you're supposed to
win it all in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I don't see that happening at all.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Well, look, Texas had a great year last year. They're
in position to have another good year. But then you
what you're saying is right. It's kind of like before
I had kids, I would talk to parents, friends and
things like that, and.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
They'd just be like, man, you just don't understand until
you have a kid.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You just don't get it. Like it's just it's different.
You can't prepare for it. It's not you can't take
a class to get ready for it. It's like until
you're up at two am and your daughter won't go
to sleep, and you're on viumes and all of these.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Kinds of things.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
And now the same kind of stories means that you
just don't know what's coming when they become a teenager.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Because my oldest is three right.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Now, it's kind of the same thing. It's like, man,
you know college football. I know you've seen a couple
of these teams in the postseason and things like that,
but till you figure out how hard it is every
Saturday when you're playing on the road at Ole Miss
and you're playing down in the swamp and you're playing
in Knoxville and all this, it's just different and you
(38:02):
can't prepare for it. So I think that's what it is.
Oklahoma just gave Venables an extension, which I was kind
of surprised by. Texas I think is more ready for this,
even though you would have thought it would have been Oklahoma.
But sark really had a good year last year, and
I do feel like they're gonna walk in and they're
they're a good, really good football team. I just want
(38:24):
to know whether or not they're cool with fairly regularly
being a three lost kind of team because that's just
how it rolls in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Even I mean, George is not gonna tell you they
walk through everybody like it's easy. Bama's not gonna tell
you they walk through everybody like it's easy. None of
those champions had it easy, even if they were better
than everybody else. Those are wars in the South East
and in the Southeast, and it's it ain't gonna get
any easier like what they just had.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
It's going to feel like they went from the miners
to the majors in a lot of ways. Even if
you want to argue, and you might be right from
a competitive standpoint in terms of the that.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You would see.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
I mean, the Big Twelve over the last couple of
years has been pretty good, Like it was fun to watch,
and there were a lot of teams in the mixture
at TCU elevating their play and all this, but it's
just different, like you just don't know until you get
to the SEC. It's the same story as you don't
know until you have kids. You just don't know until
you actually start this thing. So they're gonna learn, and
(39:22):
it's there will be a learning curve involved.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
If I we just look at Texas's schedule and we
both agree it's more manageable than oklahoma schedule this year.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And they're better. Yeah, and they're better.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
But the thing is, it's not just the top teams
that you face. It's not just well, you got Oklahoma
and you get Georgia. It's the NFL talent on these
lesser teams that is still there. If you look at
Texas's schedule, just their last four games, hosting Florida at Arkansas,
(39:56):
you host Kentucky at Texas, A and M. Like, none
of those teams won more than seven games last season.
Florida was five and seven. But the talent that you
have where you're at, like while we've got Florida this
week and then we're at Arkansas, it's manageable. But the
talent that you're up against, that's what's tough about the SEC.
(40:17):
It's not just the top teams that are obviously difficult
to get around and get passed. It's these lesser teams
that still have a lot of talent. They're just up
against it, going up against the rest of the conference.
I think that's what makes life a lot more difficult
in the SEC for Texas and Oklahoma. It's the middling
teams that are still really good. They're a lot better
(40:41):
than we think they are, just because their record isn't
as good. But those are tough outs and some of
those atmospheres. It is not a lay up at all.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
I mean, you kind of went from the old NBA
East to the NBA West.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah. Right, that's a good way to put it. I
like that right there, all right.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Coming up next, Jason is in control, steer in the
ship next hour.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Very excited to see where we go. Let's all find out.
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