August 11, 2025 • 40 mins
Monday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian and Geoff recap a weekend of preseason football including Shedeur Sanders' impressive NFL debut. Travis Hunter plays both ways, we see a 70-yard FG. Ichiro Suzuki is honored by the Mariners and Diana Taurasi is under fire for comments about pay.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Hold on, Welcome in here.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian though in for the crew
today and fired up. I'll tell you what, Jeff, you
and I are.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're ball addicts over here, right we are certified ballaholics,
and ball meaning football is right around the corner in
terms of it, meaning like counting for real. Right now.
We got a little little or dervs ride, a little salad,
little preseason action to tide us over, But the real
stuff is right around the corner, my friend. That's a
beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I was thinking yesterday about how much fun I had
watching football this week and how we won't get it
I think until Saturday. Again. I don't think there's any
weekday games in the preseason this week, and so it
made me really sad. I very much enjoyed, Like yesterday,
I wasn't watching the games hardcore, especially the second game.
I just was watching the end of the golf yesterday
and watching baseball and cooking dinner like it just on
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the background. I had baseball on my iPad and flipping
back between the end of the FedEx Jude Championship with
Tommy Fleetwood again just can't get home. The poor guy
can't win a tournament. But it was nice to just
be like, oh, you know what, I'm gonna listen to
the fourth quarter of a football game while I make dinner.
That was just very enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, it's very cool. And it's funny too, because I
felt like that too. The NFL did a very good
job of spacing the preseason games out. Yes, they're like, hey,
here's a couple on Thursday, here's a couple of Friday,
here's a bunch on Saturday, here's two more on Sunday.
And by the time the Sunday games rolled around, the
last one was the Saints at the Chargers. And even
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though Tyler Shuck, who's the second round pick. He could
be a week one starter for the Saints. There's just
no juice, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, it's also the stadium. They're playing in a dead
stadium in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, that's part of it too, But man, I mean
you compare it to Shador Sanders. Chadour is the guy
that is the limelight guy right now. He's the lightning
rod for opinions to be shared far and wide, and
he had a really good debut. It's funny. We talked
about this a little bit yesterday on Countdown Jeff, But
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if you look at Shadoor Sanders and pretty much anybody
else in the draft, Tyler Shock second round pick might
be a week one starter. Cam Ward number one overall
pick going to be a week one starter, and they're
like the oh, by the way stories Compared to Shaduur Sanders,
we all know falls to the fifth round, but he
started the first preseason game, played really well, and it's
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just been opinion city all things should Doure Sanders and
every other rookie quarterback is like, you know, page page B,
page D whatever type news in comparison, it's wild.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, think think about this that Shadur Sanders and the
Browns were playing at the same time as cam Ward
was playing, right, Yeah, and what game was the national
television game?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It's the Browns.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
The Browns game was.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I know, number the.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Number one pick in the draft, Kim wore I think
he's the least talked about number one pick we've ever
seen in our lifetime. I don't think there's even a
close second. Yeah, he's picked first overall. Now, part of
it is where he went. I mean, the Titans are
not a popular team in America. I'd argue like this
just at the South in general, like that division is
just not a popular division for us to talk about
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in our in just the lexicon in the NFL. But
it's still kind of crazy. He was the first pick
in the draft and Shadur was in the fifth round,
and I get the storyline of Shadur is a lot
different and that's why he is looked upon that. Plus
he was playing, and it was right they build him
playing most of the game and he did. So, you know,
Kim Warden, I think played just two drives. He looked
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better I think on the first drive to mean the
second drive than the first drive. So you know there
was some improvement there, but it just he he is
one of those guys in Sanders that it's just much
must watch television for right now.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, And that's the wild thing is if Shadure was
drafted by the Titans, they would be talked about like crazy. Still, yeah,
I agree with you. I'm not disagreeing with you. The
Titans they just don't get a whole lot of national love.
They're not one of those, you know, go to type teams.
But man if Shadur went there, they all of a sudden,
you know what I mean. And the Browns. We don't
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just talk about the Browns left and right nationally either,
but we do now because of Chaudeur. And it was
a good debut, right. His stats, if you're into that
sort of thing, fourteen for twenty three for one hundred
and thirty eight yards, two touchdown passes, also had four
rushes for nineteen yards. And look, I thought there was
a tweet from Lebron that I actually agreed with Jeff
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where he essentially said, I'm paraphrasing He's like, and don't
give me that it's just preseason type stuff, because if
he's stunk it up, everybody would make a big deal
out of it, and there's some truth to that, and
I think for Shadeur in particular, there's a lot more
pressure on him than most quarterbacks making their first start
in the preseason because he knows as well as anybody
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that we're looking at every single throw and all the
critics are just waiting to pounce on any mistake. And
he played pretty well. You got to give him his
flowers for that first preseason start.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Okay, so let's talk about the preseason and I'll get
to Sanders all tying together, Brian, Okay, yeah, so the preseason.
I know it's not a judged like this by everyone,
but I could just talk about myself, Okay, the way
I look at the preseason, and I'm not someone you
work with me for a while now, I'm not someone
that gets very high or very low in either direction.
(06:17):
It's not my personality. I'm just I'm not I'm not
gonna overreact. I'm not gonna, you know, throw out things
that I don't believe because look, this started with the
discourse was so gross, right, it was the Browns are
setting up standards to fail by playing him, and it
was very lazy and this is where the analysis starts. Right,
it was lazy because they they the people on TV
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that wanted this to be this this he was said
to fail, like they expect him to play poorly. Right,
they expected him to play poorly. They're just funny that
the people that support him the most expect him to
play poorly and then in order to get in front
of that to the Browns were sabotaging him because they
weren't They weren't giving him enough practice reps, so they
weren't doing it the right way. Guys, the preseason, this
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is the way the preseason works. You have a depth chart.
You play according to the depth chart. When someone's out,
the next person plays. Standers was the next person up
to play. Joe Flacco was too old to play, Kenny
Pickett and Dylan Gabriel were too beat up, I guess
to play. But I'll tell you what. Gabriel has been practicing.
I'm sure he wish you would have played, because now
he's probably getting passing in the depth chart, right and
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Sanders now Hopson Sanders have been practicing with the group
of players he was playing with. Sanators didn't get first
team reps. Why would he He's not the starting quarterback, Brian,
he's the backup. Of course he gets backup reps right now, Well,
he was play have earned him the opportunity for more
reps with the Ones, probably, and we don't know that
until we see practice today, right. So it starts in
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a place of like of laziness and and and being
disingenuous with those takes, because guess what, the same people
that have those takes were the same people that were
so effusive with their praise, like they didn't say earlier
he was gonna suck right like it's it's just it's
all for show. Okay. I don't operate like that. Okay,
So the way I look at is this is my
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my standard is this does it look like it should?
So let me explain what it comes to, just the
easy way to explain this, and they'll get the sanders
in a second. So the Cincinnati Bengals, their first team,
played two drives against the Eagles backups. Okay, their offense,
the Bengals offense went boom boom, boom boom boom down
the field, two touchdowns. Check the check the box looks
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like it should, so it should it?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
The Ones are playing the twos that should happen. On
the flip side, the Bengals defense got gashed by the
Eagles backup offense. Red flag is up? Right? Why is
that happening again? So if you play that center all
through the NFL during this week, you know yesterday your Dolphins,
some your Dolphins, you're the first string offensive line got
stuffed multiple times on the goal line. That is a
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red flag that should not happen against the Bears backups
like that to me is so doesn't look like it should. Right.
If it does, you just check the box and you
move it along. Sanders is a fifth round pick, okay,
who we know is more talented than a fifth round pick.
He was playing with backups against mostly backups, the Pantas
Brothers starters, some Seluck stars a little bit, and he
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looked like a player who we already know is better
than the folks he's playing with, and they played that way,
so it looked like it should in my mind, that's
what it should look like for a player that we
all think he'd be a starting quarterback but fell for
reasons that maybe outside of actual football in the field.
So that's his performance was just that it was a
box check for week one. Now in week two, I
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don't even know they're playing. Maybe he gets reps with
the ones, or maybe gets reps with you know, against
the one defense the entire for entire multiple drives in
a row. Then we'll judge him off that. But the
same people that got on on on TV on the
radio and told us that he was being screwed by
the Browns were the same people who got up there
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and praise his performance, even though that they really were
admitting early on that they thought he would fail. So like,
I just I'm just tired of, like, well, seeing of
these people that are using his situation, which by the way,
is no different than any other fifth round pick. Yeah,
that happened. I saw people you know, well he's a
fifth round pick. Yeah he was. That's over with now.
Now now it's time to judge him based on his
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performance on the field.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, they're at Philly next week in the preseason, so.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, Philly won't play their starters, but Philly does a
good job of just being ready to play these preseason games.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah yeah, So we'll see if Chadur will definitely get
playing time. We'll see, you know, if he's the starter again.
How they're gonna divide everything up. That's my whole thing
with the being set up to fail. It's all how
you say things, and that's just too much. That's overkill.
If you said something like, hey man, he's in a
rough spot. He's not getting a ton of reps. This
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is not ideal. Okay, that's fine, but when you take
it to the he's being set up to fail. That's
what RG three tweeted last week, Shaduur Sanders is being
set up to fail in Cleveland, all right. Stephen A.
Smith said that on first take, Sanders is being set
up to fail. Lewis Riddick didn't exactly say that and
actually clarified it the morning of that preseason game on Friday.
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Jeff his comments on Get Up where Chaduur is skating
uphill right, and he talked about not getting a ton
of reps.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But it's so the problem with this is Lewis knows better,
Like out of all people like Stephen A. Whatever, man,
he's gonna have a Lewis knows better he wasn't getting.
He was getting the same amount of reps everyone else
was getting. And Lewis knows that. He knows how practice goes.
Sanders was getting the same amount of reps as everyone
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else in that quarterback room. He wasn't getting less reps.
And then they decided, like, you haven't been practicing at all,
go play. He was getting the same amount of reps
everyone else was getting because that's the way practice works
in the preseason. Well, they frustrates me. It's just nonsense, Like, yeah,
the people that know how this works are the ones
that are just saying that the nonsense stuff just to
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make headlines.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Right, Well, that's the thing of if you really break down,
he's being set up to fail that it never made
any sense whatsoever. Is if Cleveland is gonna be happy
if he fails, what are they gained by that? What
do they gain by him failing? They gain absolutely nothing.
Do you think that after Shadur played very well all
things considered against the Panthers, do you think that the
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Browns like quietly were like, ah, horrid, man, we're hoping
that he failed, Like they're upset that he played well.
It makes no sense at all when you really break
it down. It was just it was a silly take.
And I also think this, I get that there were
a lack of reps. I understand. I understand your point too, Jeff,
where you're saying they're being you know, split up among
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all these other dudes. But yeah, there was a lack
of reps. But that's not the only thing to consider.
Let's not make the Panthers backup defense out to be
like the eighty.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Inga of reps with When you say lack of reps,
what do you mean lack of reps.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Like lack of first team reps. Not out there with
the first team.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But the first team didn't play.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Okay, fine, but he's still not out there with the
first team.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And because he's the fifth, because he's the four string quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
How many how many teams have five dudes splitting reps
at quarterback? How many teams? They're probably the only team
that has that matter, has four quarterbacks five They there too.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's not humbly because everyone was hurt. They'll release only
at some point because I only pick it's practicing, right,
he's he's been out. No, Sanders is getting the amount
of reps he should in the preseason in practice. People
are upset because it's not with the first team. Well,
of course not, he's not the starting quarterback. The starting
quarterback is Joe Flacco. That's what Joe Flacco gets first
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team reps. He's the starting quarterback. Like, it's not I
don't get this discussion about lack of reps. It's the
Browns are doing exactly what everyone else does in a
quarterback competition. They're giving everyone reps to you know, you know,
equal to what position on the depth chart they are.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, I mean, I I just I don't. I don't see.
And that's the thing, Like there was a practice. I'd
have to get the screenshot. Now, all five of these
dudes split up reps. They posted their stats like it's
a regular season game.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And I agree that it's it's insane that they have
five quarterbacks in the roster. Like I will agree with that,
Like that's not that's not giving enough reps to everyone.
But Santa's just getting the reps.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Here we go, Here you go, here you go, here
you go. So it's August sixth, So what last Wednesday?
I think, Okay, this is ridiculous, but we're really breaking
it down here. So here's the attempts and completions per
quarterback Flacco on this training camp practice last Wednesday. Flaco
eight for thirteen, Sanders four for seven, Picket five for seven,
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Gabriel said, and for eight, Huntly two for five. What
other team has five other dudes getting reps in practice
and point them out to me. I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
So, so if we want to talk about their quarterback
competition and how many and how still it is, I'm
absolutely for that discussion. But he's not getting any less
reps than Gabriel is. And here's the thing. I think
we all agree that he's better than doing Gabriel. I
certainly think he might be doing Gabriel. Yeah, but he
was drafted in in you know, he was drafted in
in the UH in the third round, and sans A
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drafted in the fifth round. Like, you can't just give
reps to standards ahead of Gabriel, now, I would argue
you can. Now after what happened like like like I like,
I think Gabriel probably feels like, shoot, I probably trut
have tried to play because he's you know, he might
he might lose that job pretty quickly as a backup
quarterback after what happened, you know, in in the game
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on Friday night. So but they're they're getting he's getting
the reps he should be getting now this week. I'm
very curious to see him where he is in the
depth chart. It would be probably not fair to Gabriel
to change the depth chart very much because he hasn't
a chance to play yet. But that's sort of the NFL, though,
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like you get hurt. Like there's interesting is you know,
the common is a common thing where people say, like, well,
you can't lose your job injury. Oh no, you can.
You can always use your job injury. But so I
think that that maybe, you know, he might lose some
reps to that because of how well you know, Sanders played,
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But I would think probably not yet, but Gabriel. If
Gabriel does not play well against the Eagles, like that's it,
this is over for backup quarter. But I've said all along,
I think I'm still going to be right on this.
You know, there's a competition between Flacco and Kenny Pickett.
The winner is the starter and the loser will be released,
which we can he pick it. And there's obviously a
competition between Gabriel and Standards to see who the backup
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is going to be. And I think I think Standard
we'll win that job. I just think Santa it's better
than Gabriel. I mean, he's my guy at Oregon, but
I just think Sanders is better.
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Speaker 4 (19:37):
The Mets row up I think five to one two.
Another bad loss for them.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, nine straight wins for the Brewers, seven straight losses
for the Mets. So there you go it. Hap Baseball
is so weird. Sometimes there are these teams. Obviously, the
Mets are gonna win at some point again, but while
they're in this funk, they're a team. Whatever they do,
they cannot win for a period of time. And that's
where the Mets are right now.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Man.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
They cannot get it done.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Just can't.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Travis Hunter, I'm curious what your thoughts are on Travis Hunter. So,
the two way player for the Jaguars number two overall pick,
played both ways in the preseason game against the Steelers.
He had ten snaps on offense eight snaps on defense.
What do you see this season for Travis Hunter, Like
in terms of I'm gonna use a dirty word here.
(20:25):
It's gets you all crazy. Reps, Jeff, You're like, you're like,
foe your dog off the leash when I say reps here.
But I'm curious what type of workload do you see
from Travis Hunter as the season progressive progresses? How do
they break it down offensively and defensively? In your mind?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Oh? Man, I jeez, do you watch you watch that
game in all the Day the Jaguars steel? Yeah, yeah,
you's tired. He looked playing both sides of the way.
He was breathing heavy. He was like, it's just a
lot of work, man, Yeah, to do both. I would
you rather have Travis Hunter be the best at one
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position and then maybe play a little bit of the
other present or haven't be like just good at two positions? Like,
there's just not an you just there's a reason why
this hasn't been done at the level they're trying to
do before NFL history, And of course you know, new talent,
new players can change the way you do things, but
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there's a reason why it has not been done before.
It is physically taxing to play one position at a
high level. Let alone two positions at a high level.
And when you when you end up trying to do this,
I think you minimize the ability for him to be
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good at at one position. Right, he can be a
great corner or great wide receiver, in my opinion, he
can't be great at both. And is it worth making
him less good essentially at two positions to have him
play both? He is he easy? That is he that
important of a player for you to have to play both.
The easiest way is always to have him be a
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full time corner and then fill in an offense as
he did. The other way around is ridiculous to me.
And if I was an offensive coach playing against him
and I saw him come on defense after he played offense,
gets where the ball is going?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, right to him?
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Right, Guess what I'm doing. I'm sending the off I'm
running a screen pass, and I'm sending the offensive lineman
out to go block him.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, that's yeah, It's kind of leeds into your point.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Here is DeVante Adams new Rams receiver. He was on
the Pivot podcast and I thought it was interesting the
way he put it as well. And again, this is
not like hating on the guy, it's not right, like
we're not saying what he can't do, or he's just
being realistic about how taxing it would be to play
both ways at as close to a full time basis
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as possible. Here's Fonte Adams.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
I don't even think it's possible to do for real,
not at a high level and then going there. It's
hard enough to go cover a punt and then and
then be on you.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Know one side, you know, and I didn't. I haven't
done it.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I'm not acting like I'm gonna kick off or punt,
but I can see the dudes, and I know you
know you you got your guys, and you see the
yardage of my yardage over the over the game versus
somebody that starts on the offense and then plays special
teams as well, Like, that's just a lot of mileage, man,
And I don't know how long. I'm not even concerned
so much if he can do it over the course
of a game or a season. It's more like how
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long is his career gonna be if he's playing that
many snaps, because you just all you're doing is doubling
your risk for injury one, And I don't wish any
of that on him. I hope that he can play
an injury free season and go ball out, but I
mean it's just the reality. The more you're on the field, Yeah,
I mean, it's already one hundred percent injury guarantee. You know,
once you get out there playing both sides and now
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you gotta tackle, you gotta you gotta tackle Derrick Henry
with that frame.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Right Like that's that's asking a ton, Jeff, and I
hadn't thought about it until this morning, really, but I
think I think he's gonna be an asset. I think
Travis Hunter is a very talented special player, but this
does like class half empty. This lends itself to the
Jags not finding a rhythm. Like think about if they
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I think they're gonna start him out on offense primarily,
that's what they're gonna try to do. They're gonna try
to get Trevor Lawrence, you know, another weapon and get
him really jump started. And I think they're gonna find,
like you know, it's probably better, like you just said,
to have him as a full time corner and sort
of moonlight as an offensive guy. So if he starts
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off being a starter on offense, I always listed on
the depth chart. If he starts off being a starter
offensively and then they sort of flip that around and
he's a starter defensively and gets a little bit of
time on offense. That lends itself to the offense being like, okay,
you don't have Trevor Travis Hunter anymore now now to
who you know what I mean, Like it could be
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a little bit funky to find out his exact role
in all the moving parts around that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, I just physically don't know how he can do
both and then mentally, right, so you know, in college,
we really dig down to what he did in college,
he played man coverage on defense, and he basically lined
up on one side of the field on offense for
a game. Right, it just sort of right. It never
motioned in doing it, just like lined up on one
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side and just ran routes from that side, and it
was like a route tree was extensive. It wasn't a
route tree that was crazy. And defensive defensively, he's such
a good corner, you know, just just go out and
go to the guy in front of you, Right, It's
not very hard. That's not the way the NFL is.
So you know, these playbooks. Let's just say you have
a paper playbook still, okay, and everyone's on iPads now,
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but you know, college playbook would be fifty pages and
NFL playbooks one hundre fifty pages, So he has to
learn both of those to play offense and defense to
like that again, Like that's why I think, just generally speaking,
it's just way too much for him to do, and
it's unfair to him to have to make him have
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to do all this, and unfair to your your point,
unfair to the team and sort of how you prepare
each week to have him have to do this. So
I'm in agreement with basically everyone who's ever played who
has the same thoughts on this, Like it's not it's
not something that benefits everyone. It just it just doesn't.
So I'm curious how long this experiment lasts with him
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doing as much as possible and look and look, they
can still be trying to figure out the best path forward,
which is certainly fair to say, hey man, like we're
just using the preseason as we should for reps to
figure it out. But they gotta figure out pretty soon
because you know, I've got two preseason games left and
the record season starts, Brian, Like, it's not like it's
it's pretty much time to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, we're right here. It's crazy what he did at
Colorado last year. He averaged one hundred and thirteen point
nine snaps per game. Let's just credit fourteen. One hundred
and fourteen snaps per game is insanity. But this is
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
You can't do the NFL. It would just ruin. He
would be ruined. His body would break down, he would
get hurt, he wouldn't be as efficient as you need
him to be those in those big moments. That's why
I think again, like you just you want I think
to me, you want the best of him on one
side of the ball, and that does feel like the
best of him on one side of the ball is
going to end up being on offense.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, I think sometimes, you know, we always talk about
Miami in September. Jacksonville isn't exactly you know, like Green
Bay or something like that. It's taxing on your body
to play like a one pm Eastern game.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Done it. I played a week one in Jacksonville before
one pm start. Very very warm, Brian, very warm.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Man, incredibly warm. How about his teammate, though, Cam Little.
Some wild and crazy stuff that happened over the weekend.
Cam Little hitting a seventy yard field goal. That is insanity, Jeff.
That would have been the record by four yards. Justin
Tucker has the official record, but just because this was
in preseason, it's not an official record. If it were
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in the regular season, it would have beaten it by
four yards. And he had distance despair. I can't believe
he made that look so easy. He kicked it from
his own forty yard line. Didn't even look right.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Kicking has become too easy. It's not a gripe of
mind having the sport. I think to knowledge, it's become
too easy. It was never supposed to be this easy.
And I'm curious this year with the new kickoff rules
and the landing zone all this stuff. Like I do
think there's a chance that we just get more points
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this year if you can start the ball to thirty five.
Now after a touchback or forty I think at the
ball like doesn't hit the ground or some or hits
the ground too early. I mean, you're you're twenty five,
twenty yards away from a fifty seven yard field goal,
which feels like nearly automatic. Now it's kind of crazy,
like that's where I've gotten to where that those those
type of you know, kicks feel like something that can
be easily. I do wonder if it changes the way
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like you live wager end of games, Like you know,
the team is down three with fifty seconds left. If
they get the ball to thirty five, it's not very
hard to get to the fifty, I mean to forty
yard line to get a decent, decent chance at fifty
seven yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
It wasn't that long ago that, say, like a fifty
five yard field goal was like whoa fifty five? And
if you got near sixty, we're talking like, man, you're
a couple of yards away from the record. You know,
that was like sixty yard field goal. For him to
hit his seventy yard field goal is crazy. Even the
Justin Tucker field goal, the record breaker. It hit the
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crossbar and trickled over.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Right, and it was also inside in a dome like perfect. Yeah,
you know conditions. I mean, Jacksonville just could do enough
though unfortunately to actually like you know, cover the first half.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
But that's what you're focused on. What a way to
win a bet? If he hit a seventy yarder. You're like,
all right, you're almost like, you know, rolling your eyes.
I just need him to hit a seventy yarder and
I can cash this bet. And he hit it, that
would have been a great way.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
To win it. I never unfortunate that way. Never, it
never happens.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, it's the way. It's the way you lose one, right, Like,
all right, I just have to dodge him hitting it.
He he just hit a seventy yarder. I can't believe. Yeah,
normally goes the other way. Uh, this will probably make
you feel old, Jeff. How about former Yankees closer Mariano Rivera.
He tore his achilles during the Yankees Old Timers Day
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game on Saturday? That like, how did we get here?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Where?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Mariano Rivera, the greatest closer of all time? Exceptional athlete,
He's tearing his achilles during the Old Timers Day game?
How are we even here?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Man?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
This is crazy. We got to suspend time for a second.
It's going by too fast.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
So does everyone Does everyone do old Timers games?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I don't believe so, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Who is that a thing that like Yankees fans want
to go to? Are they just show up to the
show Ye Stadium to watch that. I just didn't know
that was a thing that everyone does.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, some do. Some check it out and you see
the former like Andy Pettitt was playing, Willie Randolph was playing.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I know, I know the play I'm talking about. Like
our fans there like.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Do they Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like there's some
show up and they're like, oh I get to see
Andy Pettitt. The'll they'll show up and hang out for
a little bit. Sure.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's not like, oh, drop everything you're doing like capacity crowd.
But it's just one of the fun things that they do. Yeah,
this is depending on your definition of fun.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
You don't play basketball anymore. It's just like that if
I were myself again, my wife would divorce me. I
probably all the injuries in the NFL, and like I
would get so fat if I was. I had achilles
injury for you know, for you know, six months and
couldn't couldn't move it all. It's just this is not
worth it to me to do those type of things anymore.
So I feel bad for him because I mean he's
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gonna it's not it's not a fun injury. I mean,
you're now you're not way bearing for months at a time,
and it's gonna be you're gonna be just kind of
sitting there and like doing nothing. So I feel bad
that it ended up being the case. He also before
he got hurt, he like ripped a double off.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
But if they was on Andy Pettitt, Yeah, Yeah, he's
an awesome athlete. He is, and uh they thought a
lot of people would say he was the best outfielder
in the American League, Like he would just shag fly
balls and he's a tremendous athlete. He actually I think
he tore his a cl you know, shagging fly balls. Yeah,
before his final season. He had to come back from
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a torn a cl before his final year because I
think he got hurt in Kansas City doing that.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, I very much have enjoyed this eachy row like
run he's on right now. Where Yeah, he obviously, you know,
made the Hall of Fame and he had a Mariner's
I don't inducted in the Hall of Fame. The Meris
Hall of Fame, but they aducted he got to like,
you know, go on the honored him on the field
the other day. Yeah, dude is funny man.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
He is very funny.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And he was in full uniform throwing out the first pitch.
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I saw? Well, no, I saw the video of him
and Randy Johnson playing catch in the hallway. Oh wow, yeah,
in the clubhouse hallway. I mean, dude obviously loves baseball.
I think I think his career is underappreciated. Like he
had three thousand American hits and like fifteen hundred hits
in the Japanese League. Like he had a crazy career
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of success in both leagues and you know, obviously doesn't count,
but like he had more hits than Pete Rose, I believe, right, first.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Year all together.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, which is an insane thing to even like sort
of throw out there. Yeah, I had more hits and
Pete Rose. They don't always count, but like I just
did you know he was? He was MVP and Rookie
the Year in the same year he missed by a vote.
Obviously famous that year for rookie the year was yeah,
for rookie the year, he asked, you know, he obviously
missed Hall of Fame with one vote. They need to
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make Hall of Fame votes public by the way, because
that person has to be shamed obviously. Sure, the way
Baseball does their voting, there's no excuse for him eachro
not to win, not to be any of these players.
Like the way they do their voting. You vote for,
you get a ballot, You get to vote for ten players.
How's Etro not one of the ten players you would
vote for.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I'm that ballot.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
That's even worse, you know, it's even worse, you know,
to not put him in the top ten. This was
real fast. This was his Hall of Fame induction speech.
This is just gold right here. And to the Miami Molltains.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
When you guys colled to offer me a contract for
twenty fifteen, I have never heard all of your team.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Never heard of the Miami Marlins, you know. And then
he had, of course some very nice things to say
about the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Do you think he was being serious?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Absolutely? I do you think he was a kid around?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Well? Do you think they had they just changed from
Florida to Miami.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I'm not sure. I don't know what the timeline was,
uh with that they offered him.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
You know, he had played baseball that long, hadn't heard
of the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
I absolutely believe it could have been the case where
he's like, I never heard of you guys. You know
it's each row. You know, he's paid attention to whatever
he's paying attention to. You think, like the Miami Marlins
are you know in his news feed or something for me?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
You know he played them.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Ever, well, it's interesting like the where he was in
his career and you know all that. I don't know.
I just take him by his word. I call bs
on each row. How dare you?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm just saying I'd find that to be pretty like.
I don't know. I think it was more of a
joke maybe, but I I mean, look Cravy, I hadn't
heard of him before. Good. But again, guy loves ball.
We thought all the time about like loving ball.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
He's a ball he loves the ball man, he does.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
So, uh, he got to the Mariners in one and
you know, went to the Yankees in twenty twelve and
then went to the Marlins in twenty fifteen. So yeah, hey,
maybe maybe you're onto something over there. He was forty
one years old when he went to the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah. See, I I think it's a fun of those
fun stories that I think he's just was more of
a joke. Stir.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Maybe you're true. Maybe that's a way to take all
the fun out of I. You know, you just what
are you gonna tell me about Santa?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Not?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You know, I don't want to know about all these things.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, I want to go what about Santa?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I want to live blindly, you know, thinking these things.
I can't go down that road. Jeff, there my little kids.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I'm going to say, I don't know what you mean
about that. That's right, there's one okay. The other thing
I also like about this is like he obviously speaks
very good English. Right, It's a little broken, but it's
it's very good. And I just find it so fascinating
how players who play in the big leads for that
long obviously speak great English but sort of pretend they
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don't to the media.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah right, sure, yeah, some do. I remember I was I.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Was showing the story of other day in the radio
as a some of the Mets, and I went to
see the Mets. I was watching Mets Giants fears, but
actually was twenty fifteen at City Field. I went for
the Giants, I mean the Giants football team. I was
watching the Giants baseball team and I met Bartola Coloone
was there and we just want to say hi. We
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were there watching batting practice and he said he said
he's speaking in English, and I was like, buddy, you've
been the big least fifteen years. I just say, you
don't want to talk to us, like, yeah, yeah, I'm
going inside. But he's like, I'll speaking English.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, it's hard to buy.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Really, I don't buy that, buddy.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
All right, coming up next, Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No, filling in
for the crew. Is this athlete entitled? Or is she
saying exactly what you and I would say in the
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you know, sponsored by the Home Depot. All right, Jeff,
So we'll go quick on this one. There's a new
docu series out called Tarassi that's right about the former
basketball player Diana Tarassi. It's now out on Prime Video
if you want to check it out. But there's a
little excerpt from this and she's talking about having to
go overseas to play in Russia because she wasn't making
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any money playing in the WNBA. This has gotten quite
the reaction, so listen carefully because some people have had
some very critical things to say about it. Here's Diana.
Speaker 8 (38:57):
I'm the best player in the world and I have
to go to a communist country to get paid like
a capitalist. One time I came back and I was like, man,
my parents have just gotten older and I've missed a
big part of it. We weren't making that much money,
so generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year.
Now we have to come back home and get paid
nothing to play in a harder league in worse conditions
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against the best competition in the world. The janitor at
arena made more than me.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Okay, so briefly, Jason Whitlock, he tweeted out, when you're
the best at something that has little real value, clueless,
so clueless and entitled. And then our own Doug Gottlieb,
he said, Diana Tarossi sounds arrogant, obnoxious, bitter and petty.
Other than that sounded great according to Doug, I guess, but.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Jeff, you tell me. I think it's easy from your
position to look at Diana and say, man, what's all
this very bitter are you telling me? If you're in
the exact same position, you aren't thinking and possibly saying
the same things. You're the best at what you do,
and you got to go over to Russia to make
a buck and you're getting paid nothing. If playing in
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the WNBA, you wouldn't think the same thing. I would.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I just think when you look at just any other job,
if you were the best in the in our country
at that job, you're not making seventy thousand dollars right
like that. That's where her anger comes from. Right now now,
the janitor comment, that's what fired everyone up. That That's
what made people angry. I think if she left that out,
that would have been a problem, you know, because you're
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basically talking down about someone else's profession, right, and that
that is where I think people had the most anger
about it. But I looked at it and the fact
is like, you're in our country, if you were the
best at your job, you're making more than what she
was making.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Hold on, Welcome in here.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian though in for the crew
today and fired up. I'll tell you what, Jeff, you
and I are.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
We're ball addicts over here, right we are certified ballaholics,
and ball meaning football is right around the corner in
terms of it, meaning like counting for real. Right now.
We got a little little or dervs ride, a little salad,
little preseason action to tide us over, But the real
stuff is right around the corner, my friend. That's a
beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I was thinking yesterday about how much fun I had
watching football this week and how we won't get it
I think until Saturday. Again. I don't think there's any
weekday games in the preseason this week, and so it
made me really sad. I very much enjoyed, Like yesterday,
I wasn't watching the games hardcore, especially the second game.
I just was watching the end of the golf yesterday
and watching baseball and cooking dinner like it just on
(01:30):
the background. I had baseball on my iPad and flipping
back between the end of the FedEx Jude Championship with
Tommy Fleetwood again just can't get home. The poor guy
can't win a tournament. But it was nice to just
be like, oh, you know what, I'm gonna listen to
the fourth quarter of a football game while I make dinner.
That was just very enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, it's very cool. And it's funny too, because I
felt like that too. The NFL did a very good
job of spacing the preseason games out. Yes, they're like, hey,
here's a couple on Thursday, here's a couple of Friday,
here's a bunch on Saturday, here's two more on Sunday.
And by the time the Sunday games rolled around, the
last one was the Saints at the Chargers. And even
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though Tyler Shuck, who's the second round pick. He could
be a week one starter for the Saints. There's just
no juice, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, it's also the stadium. They're playing in a dead
stadium in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, that's part of it too, But man, I mean
you compare it to Shador Sanders. Chadour is the guy
that is the limelight guy right now. He's the lightning
rod for opinions to be shared far and wide, and
he had a really good debut. It's funny. We talked
about this a little bit yesterday on Countdown Jeff, But
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if you look at Shadoor Sanders and pretty much anybody
else in the draft, Tyler Shock second round pick might
be a week one starter. Cam Ward number one overall
pick going to be a week one starter, and they're
like the oh, by the way stories Compared to Shaduur Sanders,
we all know falls to the fifth round, but he
started the first preseason game, played really well, and it's
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just been opinion city all things should Doure Sanders and
every other rookie quarterback is like, you know, page page B,
page D whatever type news in comparison, it's wild.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, think think about this that Shadur Sanders and the
Browns were playing at the same time as cam Ward
was playing, right, Yeah, and what game was the national
television game?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It's the Browns.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
The Browns game was.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I know, number the.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Number one pick in the draft, Kim wore I think
he's the least talked about number one pick we've ever
seen in our lifetime. I don't think there's even a
close second. Yeah, he's picked first overall. Now, part of
it is where he went. I mean, the Titans are
not a popular team in America. I'd argue like this
just at the South in general, like that division is
just not a popular division for us to talk about
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in our in just the lexicon in the NFL. But
it's still kind of crazy. He was the first pick
in the draft and Shadur was in the fifth round,
and I get the storyline of Shadur is a lot
different and that's why he is looked upon that. Plus
he was playing, and it was right they build him
playing most of the game and he did. So, you know,
Kim Warden, I think played just two drives. He looked
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better I think on the first drive to mean the
second drive than the first drive. So you know there
was some improvement there, but it just he he is
one of those guys in Sanders that it's just much
must watch television for right now.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, And that's the wild thing is if Shadure was
drafted by the Titans, they would be talked about like crazy. Still, yeah,
I agree with you. I'm not disagreeing with you. The
Titans they just don't get a whole lot of national love.
They're not one of those, you know, go to type teams.
But man if Shadur went there, they all of a sudden,
you know what I mean. And the Browns. We don't
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just talk about the Browns left and right nationally either,
but we do now because of Chaudeur. And it was
a good debut, right. His stats, if you're into that
sort of thing, fourteen for twenty three for one hundred
and thirty eight yards, two touchdown passes, also had four
rushes for nineteen yards. And look, I thought there was
a tweet from Lebron that I actually agreed with Jeff
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where he essentially said, I'm paraphrasing He's like, and don't
give me that it's just preseason type stuff, because if
he's stunk it up, everybody would make a big deal
out of it, and there's some truth to that, and
I think for Shadeur in particular, there's a lot more
pressure on him than most quarterbacks making their first start
in the preseason because he knows as well as anybody
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that we're looking at every single throw and all the
critics are just waiting to pounce on any mistake. And
he played pretty well. You got to give him his
flowers for that first preseason start.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Okay, so let's talk about the preseason and I'll get
to Sanders all tying together, Brian, Okay, yeah, so the preseason.
I know it's not a judged like this by everyone,
but I could just talk about myself, Okay, the way
I look at the preseason, and I'm not someone you
work with me for a while now, I'm not someone
that gets very high or very low in either direction.
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It's not my personality. I'm just I'm not I'm not
gonna overreact. I'm not gonna, you know, throw out things
that I don't believe because look, this started with the
discourse was so gross, right, it was the Browns are
setting up standards to fail by playing him, and it
was very lazy and this is where the analysis starts. Right,
it was lazy because they they the people on TV
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that wanted this to be this this he was said
to fail, like they expect him to play poorly. Right,
they expected him to play poorly. They're just funny that
the people that support him the most expect him to
play poorly and then in order to get in front
of that to the Browns were sabotaging him because they
weren't They weren't giving him enough practice reps, so they
weren't doing it the right way. Guys, the preseason, this
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is the way the preseason works. You have a depth chart.
You play according to the depth chart. When someone's out,
the next person plays. Standers was the next person up
to play. Joe Flacco was too old to play, Kenny
Pickett and Dylan Gabriel were too beat up, I guess
to play. But I'll tell you what. Gabriel has been practicing.
I'm sure he wish you would have played, because now
he's probably getting passing in the depth chart, right and
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Sanders now Hopson Sanders have been practicing with the group
of players he was playing with. Sanators didn't get first
team reps. Why would he He's not the starting quarterback, Brian,
he's the backup. Of course he gets backup reps right now, Well,
he was play have earned him the opportunity for more
reps with the Ones, probably, and we don't know that
until we see practice today, right. So it starts in
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a place of like of laziness and and and being
disingenuous with those takes, because guess what, the same people
that have those takes were the same people that were
so effusive with their praise, like they didn't say earlier
he was gonna suck right like it's it's just it's
all for show. Okay. I don't operate like that. Okay,
So the way I look at is this is my
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my standard is this does it look like it should?
So let me explain what it comes to, just the
easy way to explain this, and they'll get the sanders
in a second. So the Cincinnati Bengals, their first team,
played two drives against the Eagles backups. Okay, their offense,
the Bengals offense went boom boom, boom boom boom down
the field, two touchdowns. Check the check the box looks
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like it should, so it should it?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
The Ones are playing the twos that should happen. On
the flip side, the Bengals defense got gashed by the
Eagles backup offense. Red flag is up? Right? Why is
that happening again? So if you play that center all
through the NFL during this week, you know yesterday your Dolphins,
some your Dolphins, you're the first string offensive line got
stuffed multiple times on the goal line. That is a
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red flag that should not happen against the Bears backups
like that to me is so doesn't look like it should. Right.
If it does, you just check the box and you
move it along. Sanders is a fifth round pick, okay,
who we know is more talented than a fifth round pick.
He was playing with backups against mostly backups, the Pantas
Brothers starters, some Seluck stars a little bit, and he
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looked like a player who we already know is better
than the folks he's playing with, and they played that way,
so it looked like it should in my mind, that's
what it should look like for a player that we
all think he'd be a starting quarterback but fell for
reasons that maybe outside of actual football in the field.
So that's his performance was just that it was a
box check for week one. Now in week two, I
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don't even know they're playing. Maybe he gets reps with
the ones, or maybe gets reps with you know, against
the one defense the entire for entire multiple drives in
a row. Then we'll judge him off that. But the
same people that got on on on TV on the
radio and told us that he was being screwed by
the Browns were the same people who got up there
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and praise his performance, even though that they really were
admitting early on that they thought he would fail. So like,
I just I'm just tired of, like, well, seeing of
these people that are using his situation, which by the way,
is no different than any other fifth round pick. Yeah,
that happened. I saw people you know, well he's a
fifth round pick. Yeah he was. That's over with now.
Now now it's time to judge him based on his
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performance on the field.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, they're at Philly next week in the preseason, so.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, Philly won't play their starters, but Philly does a
good job of just being ready to play these preseason games.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah yeah, So we'll see if Chadur will definitely get
playing time. We'll see, you know, if he's the starter again.
How they're gonna divide everything up. That's my whole thing
with the being set up to fail. It's all how
you say things, and that's just too much. That's overkill.
If you said something like, hey man, he's in a
rough spot. He's not getting a ton of reps. This
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is not ideal. Okay, that's fine, but when you take
it to the he's being set up to fail. That's
what RG three tweeted last week, Shaduur Sanders is being
set up to fail in Cleveland, all right. Stephen A.
Smith said that on first take, Sanders is being set
up to fail. Lewis Riddick didn't exactly say that and
actually clarified it the morning of that preseason game on Friday.
(11:18):
Jeff his comments on Get Up where Chaduur is skating
uphill right, and he talked about not getting a ton
of reps.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
But it's so the problem with this is Lewis knows better,
Like out of all people like Stephen A. Whatever, man,
he's gonna have a Lewis knows better he wasn't getting.
He was getting the same amount of reps everyone else
was getting. And Lewis knows that. He knows how practice goes.
Sanders was getting the same amount of reps as everyone
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else in that quarterback room. He wasn't getting less reps.
And then they decided, like, you haven't been practicing at all,
go play. He was getting the same amount of reps
everyone else was getting because that's the way practice works
in the preseason. Well, they frustrates me. It's just nonsense, Like, yeah,
the people that know how this works are the ones
that are just saying that the nonsense stuff just to
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make headlines.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Right, Well, that's the thing of if you really break down,
he's being set up to fail that it never made
any sense whatsoever. Is if Cleveland is gonna be happy
if he fails, what are they gained by that? What
do they gain by him failing? They gain absolutely nothing.
Do you think that after Shadur played very well all
things considered against the Panthers, do you think that the
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Browns like quietly were like, ah, horrid, man, we're hoping
that he failed, Like they're upset that he played well.
It makes no sense at all when you really break
it down. It was just it was a silly take.
And I also think this, I get that there were
a lack of reps. I understand. I understand your point too, Jeff,
where you're saying they're being you know, split up among
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all these other dudes. But yeah, there was a lack
of reps. But that's not the only thing to consider.
Let's not make the Panthers backup defense out to be
like the eighty.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Inga of reps with When you say lack of reps,
what do you mean lack of reps.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Like lack of first team reps. Not out there with
the first team.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
But the first team didn't play.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Okay, fine, but he's still not out there with the
first team.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And because he's the fifth, because he's the four string quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
How many how many teams have five dudes splitting reps
at quarterback? How many teams? They're probably the only team
that has that matter, has four quarterbacks five They there too.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
It's not humbly because everyone was hurt. They'll release only
at some point because I only pick it's practicing, right,
he's he's been out. No, Sanders is getting the amount
of reps he should in the preseason in practice. People
are upset because it's not with the first team. Well,
of course not, he's not the starting quarterback. The starting
quarterback is Joe Flacco. That's what Joe Flacco gets first
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team reps. He's the starting quarterback. Like, it's not I
don't get this discussion about lack of reps. It's the
Browns are doing exactly what everyone else does in a
quarterback competition. They're giving everyone reps to you know, you know,
equal to what position on the depth chart they are.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, I mean, I I just I don't. I don't see.
And that's the thing, Like there was a practice. I'd
have to get the screenshot. Now, all five of these
dudes split up reps. They posted their stats like it's
a regular season game.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And I agree that it's it's insane that they have
five quarterbacks in the roster. Like I will agree with that,
Like that's not that's not giving enough reps to everyone.
But Santa's just getting the reps.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Here we go, Here you go, here you go, here
you go. So it's August sixth, So what last Wednesday?
I think, Okay, this is ridiculous, but we're really breaking
it down here. So here's the attempts and completions per
quarterback Flacco on this training camp practice last Wednesday. Flaco
eight for thirteen, Sanders four for seven, Picket five for seven,
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Gabriel said, and for eight, Huntly two for five. What
other team has five other dudes getting reps in practice
and point them out to me. I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
So, so if we want to talk about their quarterback
competition and how many and how still it is, I'm
absolutely for that discussion. But he's not getting any less
reps than Gabriel is. And here's the thing. I think
we all agree that he's better than doing Gabriel. I
certainly think he might be doing Gabriel. Yeah, but he
was drafted in in you know, he was drafted in
in the UH in the third round, and sans A
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drafted in the fifth round. Like, you can't just give
reps to standards ahead of Gabriel, now, I would argue
you can. Now after what happened like like like I like,
I think Gabriel probably feels like, shoot, I probably trut
have tried to play because he's you know, he might
he might lose that job pretty quickly as a backup
quarterback after what happened, you know, in in the game
(15:53):
on Friday night. So but they're they're getting he's getting
the reps he should be getting now this week. I'm
very curious to see him where he is in the
depth chart. It would be probably not fair to Gabriel
to change the depth chart very much because he hasn't
a chance to play yet. But that's sort of the NFL, though,
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like you get hurt. Like there's interesting is you know,
the common is a common thing where people say, like, well,
you can't lose your job injury. Oh no, you can.
You can always use your job injury. But so I
think that that maybe, you know, he might lose some
reps to that because of how well you know, Sanders played,
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But I would think probably not yet, but Gabriel. If
Gabriel does not play well against the Eagles, like that's it,
this is over for backup quarter. But I've said all along,
I think I'm still going to be right on this.
You know, there's a competition between Flacco and Kenny Pickett.
The winner is the starter and the loser will be released,
which we can he pick it. And there's obviously a
competition between Gabriel and Standards to see who the backup
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is going to be. And I think I think Standard
we'll win that job. I just think Santa it's better
than Gabriel. I mean, he's my guy at Oregon, but
I just think Sanders is better.
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and then he gave up the walkoff homer right there.
That you just heard, Jeff craziness right there.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
The Mets row up I think five to one two.
Another bad loss for them.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah, nine straight wins for the Brewers, seven straight losses
for the Mets. So there you go it. Hap Baseball
is so weird. Sometimes there are these teams. Obviously, the
Mets are gonna win at some point again, but while
they're in this funk, they're a team. Whatever they do,
they cannot win for a period of time. And that's
where the Mets are right now.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Man.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
They cannot get it done.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Just can't.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Travis Hunter, I'm curious what your thoughts are on Travis Hunter. So,
the two way player for the Jaguars number two overall pick,
played both ways in the preseason game against the Steelers.
He had ten snaps on offense eight snaps on defense.
What do you see this season for Travis Hunter, Like
in terms of I'm gonna use a dirty word here.
(20:25):
It's gets you all crazy. Reps, Jeff, You're like, you're like,
foe your dog off the leash when I say reps here.
But I'm curious what type of workload do you see
from Travis Hunter as the season progressive progresses? How do
they break it down offensively and defensively? In your mind?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Oh? Man, I jeez, do you watch you watch that
game in all the Day the Jaguars steel? Yeah, yeah,
you's tired. He looked playing both sides of the way.
He was breathing heavy. He was like, it's just a
lot of work, man, Yeah, to do both. I would
you rather have Travis Hunter be the best at one
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position and then maybe play a little bit of the
other present or haven't be like just good at two positions? Like,
there's just not an you just there's a reason why
this hasn't been done at the level they're trying to
do before NFL history, And of course you know, new talent,
new players can change the way you do things, but
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there's a reason why it has not been done before.
It is physically taxing to play one position at a
high level. Let alone two positions at a high level.
And when you when you end up trying to do this,
I think you minimize the ability for him to be
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good at at one position. Right, he can be a
great corner or great wide receiver, in my opinion, he
can't be great at both. And is it worth making
him less good essentially at two positions to have him
play both? He is he easy? That is he that
important of a player for you to have to play both.
The easiest way is always to have him be a
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full time corner and then fill in an offense as
he did. The other way around is ridiculous to me.
And if I was an offensive coach playing against him
and I saw him come on defense after he played offense,
gets where the ball is going?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, right to him?
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Right, Guess what I'm doing. I'm sending the off I'm
running a screen pass, and I'm sending the offensive lineman
out to go block him.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, that's yeah, It's kind of leeds into your point.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Here is DeVante Adams new Rams receiver. He was on
the Pivot podcast and I thought it was interesting the
way he put it as well. And again, this is
not like hating on the guy, it's not right, like
we're not saying what he can't do, or he's just
being realistic about how taxing it would be to play
both ways at as close to a full time basis
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as possible. Here's Fonte Adams.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
I don't even think it's possible to do for real,
not at a high level and then going there. It's
hard enough to go cover a punt and then and
then be on you.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Know one side, you know, and I didn't. I haven't
done it.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I'm not acting like I'm gonna kick off or punt,
but I can see the dudes, and I know you
know you you got your guys, and you see the
yardage of my yardage over the over the game versus
somebody that starts on the offense and then plays special
teams as well, Like, that's just a lot of mileage, man,
And I don't know how long. I'm not even concerned
so much if he can do it over the course
of a game or a season. It's more like how
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long is his career gonna be if he's playing that
many snaps, because you just all you're doing is doubling
your risk for injury one, And I don't wish any
of that on him. I hope that he can play
an injury free season and go ball out, but I
mean it's just the reality. The more you're on the field, Yeah,
I mean, it's already one hundred percent injury guarantee. You know,
once you get out there playing both sides and now
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you gotta tackle, you gotta you gotta tackle Derrick Henry
with that frame.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Right Like that's that's asking a ton, Jeff, and I
hadn't thought about it until this morning, really, but I
think I think he's gonna be an asset. I think
Travis Hunter is a very talented special player, but this
does like class half empty. This lends itself to the
Jags not finding a rhythm. Like think about if they
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I think they're gonna start him out on offense primarily,
that's what they're gonna try to do. They're gonna try
to get Trevor Lawrence, you know, another weapon and get
him really jump started. And I think they're gonna find,
like you know, it's probably better, like you just said,
to have him as a full time corner and sort
of moonlight as an offensive guy. So if he starts
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off being a starter on offense, I always listed on
the depth chart. If he starts off being a starter
offensively and then they sort of flip that around and
he's a starter defensively and gets a little bit of
time on offense. That lends itself to the offense being like, okay,
you don't have Trevor Travis Hunter anymore now now to
who you know what I mean, Like it could be
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a little bit funky to find out his exact role
in all the moving parts around that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, I just physically don't know how he can do
both and then mentally, right, so you know, in college,
we really dig down to what he did in college,
he played man coverage on defense, and he basically lined
up on one side of the field on offense for
a game. Right, it just sort of right. It never
motioned in doing it, just like lined up on one
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side and just ran routes from that side, and it
was like a route tree was extensive. It wasn't a
route tree that was crazy. And defensive defensively, he's such
a good corner, you know, just just go out and
go to the guy in front of you, Right, It's
not very hard. That's not the way the NFL is.
So you know, these playbooks. Let's just say you have
a paper playbook still, okay, and everyone's on iPads now,
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but you know, college playbook would be fifty pages and
NFL playbooks one hundre fifty pages, So he has to
learn both of those to play offense and defense to
like that again, Like that's why I think, just generally speaking,
it's just way too much for him to do, and
it's unfair to him to have to make him have
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to do all this, and unfair to your your point,
unfair to the team and sort of how you prepare
each week to have him have to do this. So
I'm in agreement with basically everyone who's ever played who
has the same thoughts on this, Like it's not it's
not something that benefits everyone. It just it just doesn't.
So I'm curious how long this experiment lasts with him
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doing as much as possible and look and look, they
can still be trying to figure out the best path forward,
which is certainly fair to say, hey man, like we're
just using the preseason as we should for reps to
figure it out. But they gotta figure out pretty soon
because you know, I've got two preseason games left and
the record season starts, Brian, Like, it's not like it's
it's pretty much time to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, we're right here. It's crazy what he did at
Colorado last year. He averaged one hundred and thirteen point
nine snaps per game. Let's just credit fourteen. One hundred
and fourteen snaps per game is insanity. But this is
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
You can't do the NFL. It would just ruin. He
would be ruined. His body would break down, he would
get hurt, he wouldn't be as efficient as you need
him to be those in those big moments. That's why
I think again, like you just you want I think
to me, you want the best of him on one
side of the ball, and that does feel like the
best of him on one side of the ball is
going to end up being on offense.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, I think sometimes, you know, we always talk about
Miami in September. Jacksonville isn't exactly you know, like Green
Bay or something like that. It's taxing on your body
to play like a one pm Eastern game.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Done it. I played a week one in Jacksonville before
one pm start. Very very warm, Brian, very warm.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Man, incredibly warm. How about his teammate, though, Cam Little.
Some wild and crazy stuff that happened over the weekend.
Cam Little hitting a seventy yard field goal. That is insanity, Jeff.
That would have been the record by four yards. Justin
Tucker has the official record, but just because this was
in preseason, it's not an official record. If it were
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in the regular season, it would have beaten it by
four yards. And he had distance despair. I can't believe
he made that look so easy. He kicked it from
his own forty yard line. Didn't even look right.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Kicking has become too easy. It's not a gripe of
mind having the sport. I think to knowledge, it's become
too easy. It was never supposed to be this easy.
And I'm curious this year with the new kickoff rules
and the landing zone all this stuff. Like I do
think there's a chance that we just get more points
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this year if you can start the ball to thirty five.
Now after a touchback or forty I think at the
ball like doesn't hit the ground or some or hits
the ground too early. I mean, you're you're twenty five,
twenty yards away from a fifty seven yard field goal,
which feels like nearly automatic. Now it's kind of crazy,
like that's where I've gotten to where that those those
type of you know, kicks feel like something that can
be easily. I do wonder if it changes the way
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like you live wager end of games, Like you know,
the team is down three with fifty seconds left. If
they get the ball to thirty five, it's not very
hard to get to the fifty, I mean to forty
yard line to get a decent, decent chance at fifty
seven yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
It wasn't that long ago that, say, like a fifty
five yard field goal was like whoa fifty five? And
if you got near sixty, we're talking like, man, you're
a couple of yards away from the record. You know,
that was like sixty yard field goal. For him to
hit his seventy yard field goal is crazy. Even the
Justin Tucker field goal, the record breaker. It hit the
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crossbar and trickled over.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Right, and it was also inside in a dome like perfect. Yeah,
you know conditions. I mean, Jacksonville just could do enough
though unfortunately to actually like you know, cover the first half.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
But that's what you're focused on. What a way to
win a bet? If he hit a seventy yarder. You're like,
all right, you're almost like, you know, rolling your eyes.
I just need him to hit a seventy yarder and
I can cash this bet. And he hit it, that
would have been a great way.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
To win it. I never unfortunate that way. Never, it
never happens.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, it's the way. It's the way you lose one, right, Like,
all right, I just have to dodge him hitting it.
He he just hit a seventy yarder. I can't believe. Yeah,
normally goes the other way. Uh, this will probably make
you feel old, Jeff. How about former Yankees closer Mariano Rivera.
He tore his achilles during the Yankees Old Timers Day
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game on Saturday? That like, how did we get here?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Where?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Mariano Rivera, the greatest closer of all time? Exceptional athlete,
He's tearing his achilles during the Old Timers Day game?
How are we even here?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Man?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
This is crazy. We got to suspend time for a second.
It's going by too fast.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
So does everyone Does everyone do old Timers games?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I don't believe so, I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Who is that a thing that like Yankees fans want
to go to? Are they just show up to the
show Ye Stadium to watch that. I just didn't know
that was a thing that everyone does.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, some do. Some check it out and you see
the former like Andy Pettitt was playing, Willie Randolph was playing.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I know, I know the play I'm talking about. Like
our fans there like.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Do they Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like there's some
show up and they're like, oh I get to see
Andy Pettitt. The'll they'll show up and hang out for
a little bit. Sure.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's not like, oh, drop everything you're doing like capacity crowd.
But it's just one of the fun things that they do. Yeah,
this is depending on your definition of fun.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
You don't play basketball anymore. It's just like that if
I were myself again, my wife would divorce me. I
probably all the injuries in the NFL, and like I
would get so fat if I was. I had achilles
injury for you know, for you know, six months and
couldn't couldn't move it all. It's just this is not
worth it to me to do those type of things anymore.
So I feel bad for him because I mean he's
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gonna it's not it's not a fun injury. I mean,
you're now you're not way bearing for months at a time,
and it's gonna be you're gonna be just kind of
sitting there and like doing nothing. So I feel bad
that it ended up being the case. He also before
he got hurt, he like ripped a double off.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
But if they was on Andy Pettitt, Yeah, Yeah, he's
an awesome athlete. He is, and uh they thought a
lot of people would say he was the best outfielder
in the American League, Like he would just shag fly
balls and he's a tremendous athlete. He actually I think
he tore his a cl you know, shagging fly balls. Yeah,
before his final season. He had to come back from
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a torn a cl before his final year because I
think he got hurt in Kansas City doing that.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Yeah, I very much have enjoyed this eachy row like
run he's on right now. Where Yeah, he obviously, you know,
made the Hall of Fame and he had a Mariner's
I don't inducted in the Hall of Fame. The Meris
Hall of Fame, but they aducted he got to like,
you know, go on the honored him on the field
the other day. Yeah, dude is funny man.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
He is very funny.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And he was in full uniform throwing out the first pitch.
Did you see that?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I saw? Well, no, I saw the video of him
and Randy Johnson playing catch in the hallway. Oh wow, yeah,
in the clubhouse hallway. I mean, dude obviously loves baseball.
I think I think his career is underappreciated. Like he
had three thousand American hits and like fifteen hundred hits
in the Japanese League. Like he had a crazy career
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of success in both leagues and you know, obviously doesn't count,
but like he had more hits than Pete Rose, I believe, right, first.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Year all together.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, which is an insane thing to even like sort
of throw out there. Yeah, I had more hits and
Pete Rose. They don't always count, but like I just
did you know he was? He was MVP and Rookie
the Year in the same year he missed by a vote.
Obviously famous that year for rookie the year was yeah,
for rookie the year, he asked, you know, he obviously
missed Hall of Fame with one vote. They need to
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make Hall of Fame votes public by the way, because
that person has to be shamed obviously. Sure, the way
Baseball does their voting, there's no excuse for him eachro
not to win, not to be any of these players.
Like the way they do their voting. You vote for,
you get a ballot, You get to vote for ten players.
How's Etro not one of the ten players you would
vote for.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
I'm that ballot.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
That's even worse, you know, it's even worse, you know,
to not put him in the top ten. This was
real fast. This was his Hall of Fame induction speech.
This is just gold right here. And to the Miami Molltains.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
When you guys colled to offer me a contract for
twenty fifteen, I have never heard all of your team.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Never heard of the Miami Marlins, you know. And then
he had, of course some very nice things to say
about the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Do you think he was being serious?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Absolutely? I do you think he was a kid around?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Well? Do you think they had they just changed from
Florida to Miami.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I'm not sure. I don't know what the timeline was,
uh with that they offered him.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
You know, he had played baseball that long, hadn't heard
of the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
I absolutely believe it could have been the case where
he's like, I never heard of you guys. You know
it's each row. You know, he's paid attention to whatever
he's paying attention to. You think, like the Miami Marlins
are you know in his news feed or something for me?
Speaker 4 (35:27):
You know he played them.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Ever, well, it's interesting like the where he was in
his career and you know all that. I don't know.
I just take him by his word. I call bs
on each row. How dare you?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm just saying I'd find that to be pretty like.
I don't know. I think it was more of a
joke maybe, but I I mean, look Cravy, I hadn't
heard of him before. Good. But again, guy loves ball.
We thought all the time about like loving ball.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
He's a ball he loves the ball man, he does.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
So, uh, he got to the Mariners in one and
you know, went to the Yankees in twenty twelve and
then went to the Marlins in twenty fifteen. So yeah, hey,
maybe maybe you're onto something over there. He was forty
one years old when he went to the Miami Marlins.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Yeah. See, I I think it's a fun of those
fun stories that I think he's just was more of
a joke. Stir.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Maybe you're true. Maybe that's a way to take all
the fun out of I. You know, you just what
are you gonna tell me about Santa?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Not?
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You know, I don't want to know about all these things.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, I want to go what about Santa?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I want to live blindly, you know, thinking these things.
I can't go down that road. Jeff, there my little kids.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
I'm going to say, I don't know what you mean
about that. That's right, there's one okay. The other thing
I also like about this is like he obviously speaks
very good English. Right, It's a little broken, but it's
it's very good. And I just find it so fascinating
how players who play in the big leads for that
long obviously speak great English but sort of pretend they
(36:52):
don't to the media.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah right, sure, yeah, some do. I remember I was I.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Was showing the story of other day in the radio
as a some of the Mets, and I went to
see the Mets. I was watching Mets Giants fears, but
actually was twenty fifteen at City Field. I went for
the Giants, I mean the Giants football team. I was
watching the Giants baseball team and I met Bartola Coloone
was there and we just want to say hi. We
(37:18):
were there watching batting practice and he said he said
he's speaking in English, and I was like, buddy, you've
been the big least fifteen years. I just say, you
don't want to talk to us, like, yeah, yeah, I'm
going inside. But he's like, I'll speaking English.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, it's hard to buy.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Really, I don't buy that, buddy.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
All right, coming up next, Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No, filling in
for the crew. Is this athlete entitled? Or is she
saying exactly what you and I would say in the
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you know, sponsored by the Home Depot. All right, Jeff,
So we'll go quick on this one. There's a new
docu series out called Tarassi that's right about the former
basketball player Diana Tarassi. It's now out on Prime Video
if you want to check it out. But there's a
little excerpt from this and she's talking about having to
go overseas to play in Russia because she wasn't making
(38:48):
any money playing in the WNBA. This has gotten quite
the reaction, so listen carefully because some people have had
some very critical things to say about it. Here's Diana.
Speaker 8 (38:57):
I'm the best player in the world and I have
to go to a communist country to get paid like
a capitalist. One time I came back and I was like, man,
my parents have just gotten older and I've missed a
big part of it. We weren't making that much money,
so generational wealth was coming from going to Russia every year.
Now we have to come back home and get paid
nothing to play in a harder league in worse conditions
(39:19):
against the best competition in the world. The janitor at
arena made more than me.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Okay, so briefly, Jason Whitlock, he tweeted out, when you're
the best at something that has little real value, clueless,
so clueless and entitled. And then our own Doug Gottlieb,
he said, Diana Tarossi sounds arrogant, obnoxious, bitter and petty.
Other than that sounded great according to Doug, I guess, but.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Jeff, you tell me. I think it's easy from your
position to look at Diana and say, man, what's all
this very bitter are you telling me? If you're in
the exact same position, you aren't thinking and possibly saying
the same things. You're the best at what you do,
and you got to go over to Russia to make
a buck and you're getting paid nothing. If playing in
(40:09):
the WNBA, you wouldn't think the same thing. I would.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
I just think when you look at just any other job,
if you were the best in the in our country
at that job, you're not making seventy thousand dollars right
like that. That's where her anger comes from. Right now now,
the janitor comment, that's what fired everyone up. That That's
what made people angry. I think if she left that out,
that would have been a problem, you know, because you're
(40:36):
basically talking down about someone else's profession, right, and that
that is where I think people had the most anger
about it. But I looked at it and the fact
is like, you're in our country, if you were the
best at your job, you're making more than what she
was making.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Right, Yeah,
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