September 1, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz fill in on this Labor Day on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe! The guys discuss some of the winners and losers from an exciting week 1 of college football + Geoff explains why he’s not that excited for Bill Belichick’s UNC Coaching debut!
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Happy Monday to you, Happy Labor Day to you as
the Schwartz Syndicate and Brian Noa with you here on
a Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You're I'm licking my wounds, Jeff. Normally I'm energetic, ball
is back, let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm just I'm down to the dumps. My irish. They
toyed with my emotions last night. They have this dramatic comeback.
They tie up the score only to allow a go
ahead field goal, and the offensive line forgot how to
block the final drive and it did not work out
well whatsoever. But hey, your ducks one, that's good. They
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kicked around to nobody, but that's good. They're want to
know morning.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Not the case from my Irish though.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Here we are ducks are one to know, and I
have a cheese grader. My mom listened yesterday. Anyways, Brian,
and I will say that I appreciate mocking of the
cheese grader. My ducks did win. Good morning. I missed
you yesterday for accounting to kickoff. I'm excited that football
is back. I had your quarterback under passing last night,
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and that last sixty five yard pass was good for you,
oh man, bad for me. I thought I was on
the right, so I was pretty much on the right
side of me. Blown coverage at the end there got
over pretty easily there at the end. But look, man,
it has been a great weekend of college football. Brian,
and I'll tell you the theme for me is is
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I think we have to take a collective deep breath
when it comes to discussion of young quarterbacks, buddy, because
we get so overhyped these quarterbacks, and it is hard
to play college football as a young football player. Like
it is becoming more. I think it's being more and
(02:23):
more evident now as more young guys play, because forever
like young guys just look, I'm not at all I
turned forty next year, I'm thirty nine, Okay. When I
got to Oregon in two thousand and four, Brian all Right,
I was the third true freshman offensive linement to play
a snap in the program history in two thousand and four,
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third ever play eighty snaps that year. That's it. I
didn't even play that much, all right, Oregon. I did
go to orgon against Montana State, Oregon played, I think
in totality even like the thirst Ring got it. They
played I think at least team true freshmen in game one. Wow,
Like these teams are playing young guy. It's not just
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you look around the you know CJ. Carr in Notre Dame, right,
just a quarter position, right, Julian Sane for Ohio State
is young. Bryce Underwood is young. Dante more even for
organized Like, these guys are young. Even arch Manning, he's
not played a lot of football, right, He's he's not young,
per se, but it's not played a lot of football.
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And around the country, we just had a lot of
guys that had not played a lot of ball playing
for a lot of these teams, and even just experience
on the offensive lines for some teams. Right, Texas and
Ohio State included, and we're just seeing and I don't
know what the reason is, but maybe it's because they're
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all young together instead of just playing Jeff Schwartz play
one offensive lineman every fifteen years or you know, like
with a bunch of older guys around him. And I
think we're just seeing, which just saw this week to
my eye, and I know I'm still catch up on games.
Is when you go to a game. I went to
Oregon Montana State game, you miss a whole day of games, right,
you can't. You know, I watched texs Ohio State, but
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you know Alabama and whatnot. You know, even Alabama, like
you you started guying Ty Simpson has not played any
football whatsoever, hasn't played football. And then you have a
team like last year, right, Ohio State was super old,
right championship, Michigan two US a super old championship, all
those Georgia teams as older. Like man, I just keep
I'm like hard at this idea now after I watching
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this weekend, Brian of like veteran teams. Man, it just
matters so much in a lot of these big games
to have guys that have done it before. And I
think I don't think we talk about that enough. Their
instance is obviously where it's not true or Trevor Lawrence
with the championship is a true freshman. Sure right, he's
a special player in college football. But man Brian experience
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seemed to matter a whole heck of a lot this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It definitely matters.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I think that it's it's gone so far now where
the first part of this is, you know, I'm with you.
Where the young quarterbacks you got to give it a
little bit of time. There's just instant analysis, like you
can just microwave your you know, franchise quarterback in college
football out of the gate, you know what I mean.
It's like a TV dinner. You put it in the
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microwave and boom, here you go. You get like, you know,
year three results. As you know, a freshman or a
first year starter, it's like it might not happen, especially
depending on the opponent you face.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know, and arch Manning you mentioned him.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
He's not facing Joe Blow you know FCS cakewalk opponent here.
You know, it's it's the Ohio State defending champions on
the road. That's not the easiest assignment. So I'm saying
you got to be fair with your critique right for
these young guys, and a lot of times it's blown
out of proportion. The other part of this is that's
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gonna sound like I'm disagreeing. I'm really not. I think
it's gone so far where you look at the experience
skies versus the first year starters, and generally speaking, the
experienced guys, they have a leg up, right, They've they've
learned along the way, they have a bunch of starts
under their belt. Carson Beck he started a bunch of
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games at Georgia, right, so that was an advantage last
night against CJ. Carr, who was starting his first college game.
But I think it's gotten to a point where we're like, oh,
you've got an experienced guy. Oh, You're like yeah, if
we're running the one hundred meters dash, You're like, you know,
you're running like seventy meters. Man, you've got such a
huge head start. And that isn't always the case. You know,
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if you think back to last year, just clems.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
It by their name, just like Clemson. Just calm out,
just calm out, Just call Clemsing by name. Just say it,
because like a lot of us, like Jeff Schwartz included,
isn't it funny how after one week you're like, you
have these seven things you said in the preseason all
the time, like half are just so terribly wrong possibly
and half are like I got some things really right.
(06:59):
In a week one it's thing's really wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And no one cares about the right stuff, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Like like I was kind of alone, Like Utah is
gonna be really freaking good this season. Island like in
the Big twelve, and they looked really good at week one,
but they're like short. You said Cow was gonna steak
week one. All right, I got I had a receiver.
I get out Gambley picks on social media, shocking, right,
you've done it for five six seasons now. And I
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went to and two. I mean it happens at week one,
I started slow wide receiver Cow called.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Me out, Oh wow, really yeah, you got a receiver
keeping receipts on these yeah, receiver.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I'm like, I'm like okay, but like, yeah, I'm that
was a Clemson you just called by name, said Clemson.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, yeah, I would just throw out a couple from
last year, like Drew Aller started a ton of games
at Penn State, and he threw like a season ending
interception against Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff, horrible
decision in the final minute. Quinn, you were started a
ton of games at Exis, and he had a big,
(08:02):
you know, fumble that was scooped up for a touchdown
against Ohio State when Texas was on the doorstep of tying.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That game up.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So that's that's all I'm saying is sometimes we think like, oh,
you've got experience, You've got an experienced quarterback, check that box,
You've got a clear advantage. That's not always the case.
That's the only thing that I hesitate on.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, it's interesting dynamic because you know, you obviously want
to I think defer to the older players at times,
and I always the thing I always go go with
is like, if you're an older player and your team
older players, I want to know the why, right, like
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why are you there? So there's sort of two buckets primarily, right, Brian,
there's the bucket of like, I'm just older and not
really NFL talented, but getting good on it an il deal.
I want to stay in school because why would I
go to the NFL. I might make less of the
NFL or might not make a roster. And then there's
the I came back for a championship guy, which we've
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seen happen in Ohio State last year, happened at Washington
two years ago, and I'm staying back to win a
championship guy. Those are different older players than just returning
production to return, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I
think it's the third buckets. Sometimes it's just like, you know,
they're a true junior orin their third year and you know,
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let's fourth year red shirt junior, haven't played very much.
You just want to want to get one more year
of experience before going to the NFL. And so so
we talk about veterans in the sport. You're right, it's
not just to me, it's you have a differentiate between
are the veterans again, are they there because they're really
pro guys, they're back for one more hurrah? Are they
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just there because they're just there? Because I think sometimes
the young guys got you know, a little juice, right,
like they got a little something different. And then of
course there's guys like obviously you know Jeremia Smith and
Ohio State. No matter what they are, they're gonna be
freak shows. And I think too because of some of
the youth in the sport. You know, your Irish men
(10:12):
are gonna look so different I think week six than
they did last night, hopefully, right, you hope that offensively
obviously with car and he settled down a little bit
last night and you know, some of the offensive line stuff.
You know, you just are better by the end of
the season than you are start the season. So it
was to me just just a great week of.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
A ball man was really good.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, and I don't I think is the best team
the county. Who's the best team in the country after
Week one? I mean we're gonna have We're gonna have
rankings come out, right.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, it's probably gonna be Ohio State. But their offense,
their offense needs a lot of works.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Man. Yeah. See, here's the thing is, so I picked
Texas to win that game, and I don't know who
you picked a win.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I pick Texas.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Also, I feel like tell because that was like the
biggest public the well, it's.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
All five the most most publicized with bet MGM lost,
which didn't cover. I don't know if they all lost,
but they just didn't cover. I think they all lost.
Actually I don't. I think Indiana, oh Ida, Okay, Indiana covered,
You're right, yea barely. I actually think Indiana. I'm already
like in week two, buddy, I'm like, who am I
looking at the Indiana to me and I didn't have
a bounce back. We could get some some schmo tea.
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I might lay like thirty five for Indiana. Who knows.
So you know, all the public sides lost, which, by
the way, is a big departure from last year, right,
where like the public sides were just we're just dominating NonStop.
It's interally interesting to see like that just that just
didn't happen. So Texas man like again, I kind of
looked at Ohio State. I thought, I thought, offensively, that's
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what we get from Ohio State. You have think like
Ageain Julian Sam making this first start, right, they have
four new offensive linemen, tun new running back to new
wide receivers like tight ends are good, but sort of
in different spots this year, right, some of their tightands
left as well, and the first time off it'sive coordinator
Brian Harline. It's first time calling plays now. Ryan Day
is obviously gonna help Texas defense is really good. I
thought that's what we get from ohiouse. I thought we'd
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get more from Texas, And I know people have very
degrees on that what that more should have been from Arch.
Arch was a Heisman favorite. Wow, Yeah, it's like is
kind of nuts and Kate Klubnick was like second in
line for Heisman and that didn't go very well. So
a really really interesting weeknd have Ball. We said we
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was still a game tonight by the way that oh yeah,
one more tonight. So I don't know, but what your
big takeaway was ready of the games, but that's sort
of mine. So I think that it's just hard to
play when you're young man, and I don't think we
take any consideration enough we talk about college football.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, no, it makes sense. And the buckets that you're
talking about. Sometimes you see the hybrid guy. You know,
there's a guy that wants to come back for a
championship and it's tied to the fact that he's a
projected third or fourth round pick, you know, so you
get that experienced guy coming back to Sometimes I just
say this, and you tell me if I'm going way
too light here, because you know me, I'll go after
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you if that's what I think is the case. You know,
I'll be critical of a team or a certain player
if they stink it up.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But with Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Listen, I'm from South pand I'm a die hard Notre
Dame fan, and I don't think I'm being too soft
here because it's something that you said in week six.
I think Notre Dame's going to look a lot different
than they did last night, and I'd rather have both.
I'd rather have CJ. Carr look pretty good and Notre
Dame win. But if it's one or the other, I
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would rather that CEJ.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Carr.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It looks like Notre Dame probably has a quarterback for
a handful of years now in CJ.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Carr.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
If it's one of the two and I have to choose,
I would choose CJ.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Car looks pretty good.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They look to have a quarterback versus I want to
win the game. No matter what, I'll put it this way,
it'd be pretty hollow and I'd feel like, oh gosh,
Notre Dame one. But man, they got a disaster and
quarterback right now.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So he looked pretty good. In the second half.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
They finally took the handcuffs off of him so conservative
early on, but if they didn't win, he looks like
he's at least a legitimate starter.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So here, here's why, here's why you think that, and
I think that's the right way to look at it.
College ball playoff has forced us to think about college
football differently. If you have a team that's good enough
to be in the playoff completely, yeah, you know it
used to be obviously, like you know that loss last
night would have been like end of the.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Season, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, okay, especially with with with your with your with
your schedule the season, just that you're not at a
conference right like sometimes you know when that that you
the confienchmpionship game to get into the postseason. Correct, it's
not that last year with ACC and the Big twelve,
like you know, win that game to get in their name.
Obviously not in that situation for for that to happen.
And so it allows a little bit of grace for
these early games. Also things allows the schedule to schedule
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these early games because you know your loss is not
an inter season, so so you know you look at
in a big picture. Now, same with Orgon, where like
I I don't look at like the the result of
the score. I know we played Montana State. I look
at the process of how we won the game or
played during the game because I'm like, Okay, well, what
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do we have to do to get ready for Penn
State in five weeks? Like I was talking to someone
on the sideline before the game about months. They're like,
what do you expect today? Go, we have four weeks
to get ready to pay Penning States. That's all I
care about. YEA, like because like that, that's that's like
the sport now right work. It's a very NFL mindset. Yeah,
if I'll start this week, we have our favorite teams.
I'm a Chiefs fan. You're a Dolphins fan. You know,
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you look at this season as in the NFL like
losses suck. You don't want your team to lose. But
it's like if you're root for a good team, it's like, okay, well,
how does this affect our posties and chances? Yeah? And
that's what culled football to me, is turned into at
the top, where for you instead of dwelling on the loss,
which stings on so you want to win, it stings
to lose, especially the way you lost. You're like, oh, okay,
Car's got a chance now, you know, we get we
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get him better this year, and then we have you know,
we get him the right place by week six, and
then by week ten, and then by week twelve and
then week fourteen and the time we play us, he's
not late. Stanford game is the right the late one
this year? I think you go to Stanford late, right ya?
By the time we played Stanford, like okay, like we're
you know, is he playing the way he needs to play?
That's very different now because of the playoff. I think
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it's actually one positive of the playoff, Brian, is you
get to think like a pro sports.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Fan, no doubt. Yeah, it's funny excited flashback too. It
was an old Notre Dame Michigan game, like the first
game of the year, and Notre Dame pulled it out
at the very end, and for some reason, I remember
them showing on TV and Usher, right the Usher was
on the field and he kind of just like collapsed
into the wall, you know what I mean. He's just
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holding his head like, oh my gosh, the season's over
before it even began. And that's the way it used
to be. Yeah, And now that you have twelve teams
in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It is. It's completely different.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
So yeah, the loss is sock man, but you got
to look more of the big picture instead of just
to hear.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And now that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And last night, Brian was I for the first time
ever in my life, I have played an official contest
in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh okay, you're on the college football team.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
College football?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
And I went four and three in my first week
of my first contest week. Yeah, so I'll take I'll
take the winning record. Miami was my last leg. Sorry,
Brian oh Man, and I I'm proud of myself four
and three first week, Like I am notoriously a slow
starter in college football, and I will it's college football, man,
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or the season. I think it's so difficult. You just
don't know about these teams, dude.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You yeah, no idea And contests.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Man, it's hard because you're like four and three not bad,
and then you look at the standing how many people
went seven and oh my gosh, I wasn't so bad.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But you have to finish. Like I thought about this,
like if I went four and three every week, you'd
be like ecstatic. Right in the season, you'd be what
you'd be twelve thirteen over five hundred, right like that
would be an incredible record. You wouldn't be close to.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Winning, not even close. Yeah, exactly pretty much what it is.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
If I told you I was thirteen five hundred for
an entire season, you'd be like, Schwartz, that is a
great job.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, And then you'd be looking up at like the
top twenty five to fifty dudes who finished ahead, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's crazy, but how they do it?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I did it though, fire hundred dollar entry very nice,
and I know Crack entered a few of those as well.
Do you enter any you do contest, I'll.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Do contests from time to time, but I didn't do
anything like that. Where you guys are in this.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Year my first year. I'm I'm I'm very excited. So
uh yeah, great great starts. The weekend got well with
Eugene got a cheese grater, got it, my daughter got
a giant hat, and we are we're off and rolling.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Brian, very nice, very good.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
All right, coming up next on two Pros and a
Cup of Joe. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian. No, we're
in for the guys. We're gonna get to the biggest
of the big disappointments this weekend. Right there are a
lot of candidates. Who is the primo biggest dud of
the week. We'll compare notes. Keep it locked right here,
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Speaker 2 (20:34):
Alrighty there, Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So Jeff, who was the biggest disappointment as far as
the team goes? We've got two leading candidates here, Okay,
Texas is on the shortlist, Alabama is on the short list.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The only two answers that are acceptable from this weekend?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, if you break the tie, who are you going with?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
There? I think for maybe what I expect did versus
basically what I got, I think it's it's it's probably Alabama. Yeah,
you know, I'm a big fan of killing to board
(21:12):
their head coach. And maybe it's because I watched his
Washington team just thoroughly dominated my Ducks for many, many weeks,
and you know, they really just ended up being three times.
But I watched him for I covered them, I watched him.
I've studied his history obviously when he became a Washington coach,
(21:33):
and the success that he had over the years. I
expected big things from him this season. I just did,
and they can still happen. So to see them fall
flat the way they did, and I'll tell you what, Brian,
(21:54):
it's not the score that I think is so interesting
to me. It's that it's the way that they were losing.
I know people want to compare him to Nick Saban.
He's not Nick Saban, okay, And the team is not
going to play the same as it did with Nick Saban.
But the problem with all this is that there's just
a lot of like effort issues and there's a lot
(22:18):
of gatin your butt kicked in the trenches. And what's
interesting is Washington didn't have these problems Like Washington. His
team won the Joe Moore Award, which is the other
offensive line award. It was his his teams were physical,
his defense was played much better basically than the stats,
like every week they were good on third down, they
rushed the past decently well they had. Alabama did none
(22:41):
of those things, and it was rather shocking. Now, I
think that maybe people were too low on Florida State
after last season and in Castilanos, you know, I think
there was questions about whether or not, Like after watching
a BC was like any good, right, Like those are
those are all fair?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Right? Those are fair questions about Florida State. But Alabama,
man like just not good. They come out blazing. And
you mentioned about about football. Okay, for those who are
new to sport, welcome, I'm glad you're here. But you know,
there's a lot of times the first drive or two
is scripted. What I mean by script is you have
(23:22):
a set of plays you've practiced, you want to run
these set of plays, and that even that even goes
as far as your favorite third down play, third and two,
third and three right, then third and medium, So four
to six, third and seven to ten, and third and
eleven plus includes your first red zone calls, includes your
first goal line calls just for short yardage calls, includes
(23:42):
all those things, right, they're all including this sort of menu.
And a lot of times a first drive of a
game will look pretty good because they're scripted, like you
you know, it's all practice, right, and then what happens
after that is really a lot. So like Bama scored
the first drive of the game, Oh great, like you're
on script, and then it just all went bad. It
all went bad after that, And it happens a lot
(24:05):
in this sport. You see, like you'll see games this
weekend where an underdog comes out and scores on the
first drive of the game and it's like that's their
best seven, eight, nine plays they have and they don't
score again the rest of the game. It happens all
the time, right, And so the scripted part was good.
Came out seven points immediately, and then basically a lot
(24:26):
of nothing. And again the effort you can pushed off
the line of scrimmage as much as they were in
this game. And that's really I thought Bama's gonna have
a bounce back year. I'm not saying they can't have
a bounce back a year, but with their schedule. Man,
I don't see I just don't see it. And that's
going to concern you if you're a Bama fan.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Well, that's the thing with Bama is absolutely the more
disappointing team instead of Texas. Yes, and the first part
of this is they had a hard time running the
ball and they had a really hard time stopping the run.
That's where it starts. You know, it just goes downhill
from there. But they were getting bullied in the trenches.
And their offensive line is fantastic. They've got dudes on
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that offensive line, and they weren't running the ball nearly
as well as Florida State was running it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And you know, if you just.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Do the tail of the tape with Texas, look, man,
I know Arch Manning was disappointing. He had a terrible
game and it was a dud for Texas to lose
the way they did. Only scored seven points all afternoon long.
But at the end of the day, they lost to
Ohio State, who's the defending champs on the road. You know, like,
that's not the biggest sin in college football that you
(25:37):
can commit. Alabama lost to an unranked Florida State team
who was two and ten the year.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Before, that's way worse.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And when you look at the Kaylan de Boor thing,
like you just do like the Sark versus Kaylin de
Boor thing, there's a reason why Bama fans are freaking out.
Like partly they're nuts and their expectations are crazy, but
you're looking at Kaitlin Debor and maybe you said, all right,
I've had a whole offseason to digest year one. It
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was a huge disappointment. But let's give this guy a chance.
Let's let him get his recruits in there. Now, he's
got Ryan Grubb as his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
He's back and let's go.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And they get punched in the mouth Game one against
Florida State. Man, it's all that like let's give him
a chance goes right out the window, and you're like,
wait a minute. So they're losing to Florida State this year,
they lost to a disappointing Oklahoma team.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And Vanderbilt last year.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Like what the hell, We're used to Nick Saban living
in the penthouse here and we have to digest these
rough losses. They're not used to that at all. So
they're freaking out, I think with good reason. And like
if you just compare the opponents playing at Ohio State
versus playing at Florida State.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It's just not the same thing right now.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So yeah, absolutely Obama is the more disappointing team than Texas.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
And I think that sometimes two in week one, I
don't think I know in week one. One of the
interesting parts about week one is, yeah, you just sometimes
don't know what you're getting from the opponent. Like you
have a new quarterback in Casilanos who runs the ball right,
kind of different than than Mike Norvella has had at
Florida State. Not totally, but like Jordan Travis wasn't a
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big he could run, but he wasn't like running.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
The football right.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
You know, Dju was not doing it quite the same.
Like you're gonna get a new offense, right, You're going
to get new things, you see, and Bama just didn't
seem prepared. Yeah, sort of the problem because yeah, I'm
watching right now, like I found the play. You know. Look,
I I used to not I used to feel bad
about calling out college kids because I was like, they're
(27:45):
not getting paid. I'm not going to treat them like pros.
But now they get paid, I don't care. I mean
the reverse touchdown that that Bama had with about nine
minutes left the second quarter. There are dudes on the
backside of this play that are loafing by Alabama.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, there's one in particular. Yeah, the guy's loaf and.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Just look like it is. It is bad dude. Yeah,
and you might lose, but lose with effort. Right, he
was like and and so that to me was the
biggest problem I saw. And his biots like seventy million.
I know people keep saying he's not going Anyone tell
you what if he don't win, this year's gone. I
don't care what Bam will find the money to get
rid of them. So to me, it's that you mentioned. Look,
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Texas played Ohio State on the road. I thought that
they probably should have given more of the offense to
Arch that they didn't do it enough. I think early
on they were little. Look we saw this with Dodame
might trying to figure out what the offense needs to
be with your quarterback, and Alabama easily is disappointing in that.
In that manner, I don't think there's even Texas might
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be a second, but I don't think it's a close second.
I think it's it's really his Alabama.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
And you mentioned Castellanos. He had that quote in the
off season leading up to the game where they don't
have Nick Saban to save them and they say, and
I just don't see them stopping me.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And he backed it up right.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
A really good game rush for seventy eight yards, probably
rushed for like one hundred and fifty yards, But we
subtract the sackach for number one thing change and it's
so dumb, dumb, it's so good. Example, it was Leonora
Sellers yesterday who was fantastic running the ball, and at
one time he had this scramble on the final drive,
(29:25):
great scramble down the sideline, made a guy miss the
whole thing, and it's like, oh man, what's his rushing
total at now? And it was like something absurd. It
was like sixteen rushes for seventeen yards. A lot of
that's just the sack yardage. It's not a clear indication
of what they're doing running the ball at all. It's
the dumbest thing ever. And it screws up your bets too.
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By the way, if you're betting the over on rushing.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yard freak, I think I think with quarterbacks, it's really
hard unless you know the offensive line keep protected in
that game. Yeah, otherwise you just can't do it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You're saying this, here's here's the impression of me or
any better taking the over of a college quarterbacks. Rushing yardage. Okay,
he drops back to pass.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And the rest of the afternoon you're gonna be like,
just throw the.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Ball, just just get rint, throw it anywhere, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Just don't take the sack yardage because it's gonna screw
up your play.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Well, So the best way you're to meet it, make
and this is you don't find this every weekend, is
the rushing attempts.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Look. I took Riley Leonard a bunch of the postseason
last year and it worked out well. The attempts because
the sack counts is attempt Well, the is you're not
going to get rushing attempts in every weekend, Like that's
that's a that's very much like a you know, uh,
something that you have to basically get for big games. Correct. Yeah,
And so that that's the way to play those quarterbacks,
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is the rushing attempts over. So, but no, the less
it was a very very fun week and I've enjoyed it.
Tonight tonight we have maybe so Brian is game tonight
North Carolina TCU. Okay, Bill Belichick's first game. So they're
(31:10):
trying to make this like Deon Sanders in Colorado. Correct,
They're trying to give us that same vibe. And I'll
tell you what, man, I don't really care about the
Belichuck story.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Wow, you're out, You're out of the story.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Out. But to me, now, I was covering Colorado full time.
When Dion came to the PAC twelve. I was doing
pack to radio. It's no longer there because we don't
have a PAC twelve anymore. So maybe I was in
I was in it every day. But the way Dion
came to Colorado announced his presence right and did it
with the flair and did it with thevado and the confidence. Uh,
(31:49):
it was a lot of fun to cover. And the portal,
the way he did the portal and his son and
Travis Hunter and I disagree with some of the way
they handled it, absolutely, but but I but I am
appreciated the content we were getting from it. You know,
Belichick is going to do it Belichick's way. Absolutely, which
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is totally fine and fair, but I just don't find
it as intriguing because I think I know what I'm
getting is as well from Belichick. With Dion, the intrigue
was like, I don't I don't know what I'm getting
from Dion. I don't know what get from from Sadurago
and from Jackson State, you know, Travis Hunter, like all
these things. I feel very comfortable with getting from from
Bill Belichick tonight, And that I think is also why
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I'm just not as excited to run this sort of
back again or a new coach, a big name, Like
what are we getting from him? I don't know what
we're going to see? And the reason why I feel
like I know I'm getting from from Belichick is is
this sport, college football is a player acquisition sport. And
if you look at the last five Newland Patriots drafts
and a Bill Belichick he failed mightily a ton acquisition.
(32:57):
Are we getting how much different in North Caeria?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Like?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
What about North Carolina makes you think that this team's
gouna be any different play it wise right than we
saw in New England.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
No, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
We'll build off of that because I want to get
into the Belichick and you know, looking at college football
as a whole. Right, we'll do this around the corner.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. No, we're in for the guys,
in for two pros and a cup of Joe. Coming
up next.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Who's the biggest draw in college football?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
If you look at coaches, players, you got your short list,
what do you boil it down to, say, top three,
top five? Who are some of the names on your list.
Where's Belichick on that list? If he even is. We'll
get to that right around the corner. Hang with us
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You must be like, oh my gosh, I we're to
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Speaker 4 (35:00):
How I like to vomit because the Giants are very good.
I mean they've won a couple of games where your recently,
you know, think about sports is so funny, right, the
Giants have just been atrocious, right, They've been just one
of the worst second half teams at baseball. But now
they're like winning just enough games where it's like, well
think they're like close.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Like it's just how sports betting goes. As soon as
you think, hey, I actually have a shot to maybe
backdoor cover, that's when they're like yeah, no, actually no.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Look I think they're within five of the wildcard. Now
you're like, oh, okay, well you know got we got
back to the rocky still laugh. You're like, okay, well,
like we you know, get a few upsets, like we
got a chance here, yeah, and then you realize that
none of it matters.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It's right at that time where they're like, all right,
complete nose dive.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So I was thinking about this.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You mentioned, you know, a couple of minutes ago, Bill
Belichick making his college debut at North Carolina tonight and.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Certainly a big name. But is he a big draw?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Is he a guy that you you find interesting to
the point where you're like, man, I'm really looking forward
to seeing what he does with North Carolina tonight. If
you compare Belichick to the biggest draws, we're talking big
name recognition, it causes you to either have an opinion
or really watch their games closer than you would if
(36:18):
that coach, if that star player weren't there. If you
look at the biggest draws in college football, where would
you put Belichick among some of the biggest draws elsewhere?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Okay, so I personally don't think he's that big of
a draw, but I think that he's in the top
three for everyone else. Okay yo, ESPN is treating him
like he's Deon like that, They're like, they're giving him
the d On treatment. And so is that because there's
that level of excitement to watch a player they banking
on that, that there's that level of excitement, Like what
(36:50):
is the reason why they might know that better than
I do? Uh? But certainly, I mean, people very much
care about what he does today, and I'm gonna watch.
I'm not down the opportunity to watch. But so there, Brian,
there are people that this only feel that this is
this is the draw? Is deal? I mean, is Belichick
(37:10):
the draw in college football? Though, to me is always teams.
It's not it's not coaches, so like it's always going
to be teams over for the most part, over coaches.
So I don't know. I mean, I think the biggest
draw is still right now because they want to Chermion's
Ohio State as a brand. They think, to me, are
(37:33):
probably the biggest draw right now. I think you're a name,
You're I think your Irish are in the top five
as far as teams that people want to watch every week.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yeah, yeah, I look at it where I hear you
on teams, I break it down a little bit more
where look. I put it like this, the biggest draws
in college football, if you're looking at coaches or players,
it's got to be someone that pretty much everybody has
an opinion on. Dion Sanders is one of those guys.
Arch Manning is one of those guys right now, right,
(37:59):
Jeremiah Smith is interesting. As much of a star as he.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Is, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I mean, he's not one of those guys, right Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I think he's a guy that like must watch a
sort of a wrong word, but I want to watch
him on offense as much as I can. I don't
know if watches the right way to put it, dionis
is still super polarizing. And the reason why, and this
is actually kind of to me a little surprising about
Dion is he is a super conservative head coach. And
(38:29):
it kind of bothers me because you would think that
he would be someone who.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Is just let it all hang out kind of yeah,
And the.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Opposite is true that he calls it it's a conservative
game all the time. And it's like, dude, you're Dion
man Like, wouldn't you and of all the people that
I think would call like a field goal fourth and two,
it wouldn't be Dion. He has never turned on a
field goal. He he you know, the game management's been poor.
(39:03):
Like I, I just sort of would have thought that
he was a guy that like that was analytics, progressive,
like a going for like all that stuff, and it's
really not his style of ball and kind of frustrates me.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, it is interesting, but kind of based on how
flashy he was as a player. Yeah, and it's not
the same type of approach as a coach. He right,
it is different, but he's certainly one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
People are incredibly opinionated, like for him against him. Deon
Sanders is a lightning rod and huge for college football.
I'm wondering if Bill Belichick. I think a lot of
people like you, go back to the offseason, there are
a lot of people saying.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Why is he even in college? What does North Carolina
do it?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I think that is dumb. It's North Carolina. Why wouldn't
they say yes to Bill Belichick? That's ridiculous to me.
But the point is there are a lot of people
that had opinions one way or the other with Belichick, and.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
That's ton down quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I think they like North Carolina is such an afterthought
and the expectations are so low.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
That's the other part. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
The thing that is different between Belchick and Dion we'll
talk about on the other side. It's expectations.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, the expectations are pretty low. I mean, listen, the
expectations were low for Dion year one, and you know
they'd start off with TCU and it was the do
you believe now, Edward.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Or There's also a different rooting interest in both of
their successes, which I think makes this a pretty fun story.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
All right, coming up next.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
Happy Monday to you, Happy Labor Day to you as
the Schwartz Syndicate and Brian Noa with you here on
a Monday morning.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You're I'm licking my wounds, Jeff. Normally I'm energetic, ball
is back, let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm just I'm down to the dumps. My irish. They
toyed with my emotions last night. They have this dramatic comeback.
They tie up the score only to allow a go
ahead field goal, and the offensive line forgot how to
block the final drive and it did not work out
well whatsoever. But hey, your ducks one, that's good. They
(01:13):
kicked around to nobody, but that's good. They're want to
know morning.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Not the case from my Irish though.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Here we are ducks are one to know, and I
have a cheese grader. My mom listened yesterday. Anyways, Brian,
and I will say that I appreciate mocking of the
cheese grader. My ducks did win. Good morning. I missed
you yesterday for accounting to kickoff. I'm excited that football
is back. I had your quarterback under passing last night,
(01:41):
and that last sixty five yard pass was good for you,
oh man, bad for me. I thought I was on
the right, so I was pretty much on the right
side of me. Blown coverage at the end there got
over pretty easily there at the end. But look, man,
it has been a great weekend of college football. Brian,
and I'll tell you the theme for me is is
(02:02):
I think we have to take a collective deep breath
when it comes to discussion of young quarterbacks, buddy, because
we get so overhyped these quarterbacks, and it is hard
to play college football as a young football player. Like
it is becoming more. I think it's being more and
(02:23):
more evident now as more young guys play, because forever
like young guys just look, I'm not at all I
turned forty next year, I'm thirty nine, Okay. When I
got to Oregon in two thousand and four, Brian all Right,
I was the third true freshman offensive linement to play
a snap in the program history in two thousand and four,
(02:44):
third ever play eighty snaps that year. That's it. I
didn't even play that much, all right, Oregon. I did
go to orgon against Montana State, Oregon played, I think
in totality even like the thirst Ring got it. They
played I think at least team true freshmen in game one. Wow,
Like these teams are playing young guy. It's not just
(03:06):
you look around the you know CJ. Carr in Notre Dame, right,
just a quarter position, right, Julian Sane for Ohio State
is young. Bryce Underwood is young. Dante more even for
organized Like, these guys are young. Even arch Manning, he's
not played a lot of football, right, He's he's not young,
per se, but it's not played a lot of football.
(03:27):
And around the country, we just had a lot of
guys that had not played a lot of ball playing
for a lot of these teams, and even just experience
on the offensive lines for some teams. Right, Texas and
Ohio State included, and we're just seeing and I don't
know what the reason is, but maybe it's because they're
(03:47):
all young together instead of just playing Jeff Schwartz play
one offensive lineman every fifteen years or you know, like
with a bunch of older guys around him. And I
think we're just seeing, which just saw this week to
my eye, and I know I'm still catch up on games.
Is when you go to a game. I went to
Oregon Montana State game, you miss a whole day of games, right,
you can't. You know, I watched texs Ohio State, but
(04:09):
you know Alabama and whatnot. You know, even Alabama, like
you you started guying Ty Simpson has not played any
football whatsoever, hasn't played football. And then you have a
team like last year, right, Ohio State was super old,
right championship, Michigan two US a super old championship, all
those Georgia teams as older. Like man, I just keep
I'm like hard at this idea now after I watching
(04:31):
this weekend, Brian of like veteran teams. Man, it just
matters so much in a lot of these big games
to have guys that have done it before. And I
think I don't think we talk about that enough. Their
instance is obviously where it's not true or Trevor Lawrence
with the championship is a true freshman. Sure right, he's
a special player in college football. But man Brian experience
(04:53):
seemed to matter a whole heck of a lot this weekend.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It definitely matters.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I think that it's it's gone so far now where
the first part of this is, you know, I'm with you.
Where the young quarterbacks you got to give it a
little bit of time. There's just instant analysis, like you
can just microwave your you know, franchise quarterback in college
football out of the gate, you know what I mean.
It's like a TV dinner. You put it in the
(05:18):
microwave and boom, here you go. You get like, you know,
year three results. As you know, a freshman or a
first year starter, it's like it might not happen, especially
depending on the opponent you face.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know, and arch Manning you mentioned him.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
He's not facing Joe Blow you know FCS cakewalk opponent here.
You know, it's it's the Ohio State defending champions on
the road. That's not the easiest assignment. So I'm saying
you got to be fair with your critique right for
these young guys, and a lot of times it's blown
out of proportion. The other part of this is that's
(05:52):
gonna sound like I'm disagreeing. I'm really not. I think
it's gone so far where you look at the experience
skies versus the first year starters, and generally speaking, the
experienced guys, they have a leg up, right, They've they've
learned along the way, they have a bunch of starts
under their belt. Carson Beck he started a bunch of
(06:13):
games at Georgia, right, so that was an advantage last
night against CJ. Carr, who was starting his first college game.
But I think it's gotten to a point where we're like, oh,
you've got an experienced guy. Oh, You're like yeah, if
we're running the one hundred meters dash, You're like, you know,
you're running like seventy meters. Man, you've got such a
huge head start. And that isn't always the case. You know,
(06:36):
if you think back to last year, just clems.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
It by their name, just like Clemson. Just calm out,
just calm out, Just call Clemsing by name. Just say it,
because like a lot of us, like Jeff Schwartz included,
isn't it funny how after one week you're like, you
have these seven things you said in the preseason all
the time, like half are just so terribly wrong possibly
and half are like I got some things really right.
(06:59):
In a week one it's thing's really wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And no one cares about the right stuff, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Like like I was kind of alone, Like Utah is
gonna be really freaking good this season. Island like in
the Big twelve, and they looked really good at week one,
but they're like short. You said Cow was gonna steak
week one. All right, I got I had a receiver.
I get out Gambley picks on social media, shocking, right,
you've done it for five six seasons now. And I
(07:24):
went to and two. I mean it happens at week one,
I started slow wide receiver Cow called.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Me out, Oh wow, really yeah, you got a receiver
keeping receipts on these yeah, receiver.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I'm like, I'm like okay, but like, yeah, I'm that
was a Clemson you just called by name, said Clemson.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, yeah, I would just throw out a couple from
last year, like Drew Aller started a ton of games
at Penn State, and he threw like a season ending
interception against Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff, horrible
decision in the final minute. Quinn, you were started a
ton of games at Exis, and he had a big,
(08:02):
you know, fumble that was scooped up for a touchdown
against Ohio State when Texas was on the doorstep of tying.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That game up.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So that's that's all I'm saying is sometimes we think like, oh,
you've got experience, You've got an experienced quarterback, check that box,
You've got a clear advantage. That's not always the case.
That's the only thing that I hesitate on.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, it's interesting dynamic because you know, you obviously want
to I think defer to the older players at times,
and I always the thing I always go go with
is like, if you're an older player and your team
older players, I want to know the why, right, like
(08:45):
why are you there? So there's sort of two buckets primarily, right, Brian,
there's the bucket of like, I'm just older and not
really NFL talented, but getting good on it an il deal.
I want to stay in school because why would I
go to the NFL. I might make less of the
NFL or might not make a roster. And then there's
the I came back for a championship guy, which we've
(09:07):
seen happen in Ohio State last year, happened at Washington
two years ago, and I'm staying back to win a
championship guy. Those are different older players than just returning
production to return, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I
think it's the third buckets. Sometimes it's just like, you know,
they're a true junior orin their third year and you know,
(09:28):
let's fourth year red shirt junior, haven't played very much.
You just want to want to get one more year
of experience before going to the NFL. And so so
we talk about veterans in the sport. You're right, it's
not just to me, it's you have a differentiate between
are the veterans again, are they there because they're really
pro guys, they're back for one more hurrah? Are they
(09:50):
just there because they're just there? Because I think sometimes
the young guys got you know, a little juice, right,
like they got a little something different. And then of
course there's guys like obviously you know Jeremia Smith and
Ohio State. No matter what they are, they're gonna be
freak shows. And I think too because of some of
the youth in the sport. You know, your Irish men
(10:12):
are gonna look so different I think week six than
they did last night, hopefully, right, you hope that offensively
obviously with car and he settled down a little bit
last night and you know, some of the offensive line stuff.
You know, you just are better by the end of
the season than you are start the season. So it
was to me just just a great week of.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
A ball man was really good.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, and I don't I think is the best team
the county. Who's the best team in the country after
Week one? I mean we're gonna have We're gonna have
rankings come out, right.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, it's probably gonna be Ohio State. But their offense,
their offense needs a lot of works.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Man. Yeah. See, here's the thing is, so I picked
Texas to win that game, and I don't know who
you picked a win.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I pick Texas.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Also, I feel like tell because that was like the
biggest public the well, it's.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
All five the most most publicized with bet MGM lost,
which didn't cover. I don't know if they all lost,
but they just didn't cover. I think they all lost.
Actually I don't. I think Indiana, oh Ida, Okay, Indiana covered,
You're right, yea barely. I actually think Indiana. I'm already
like in week two, buddy, I'm like, who am I
looking at the Indiana to me and I didn't have
a bounce back. We could get some some schmo tea.
(11:17):
I might lay like thirty five for Indiana. Who knows.
So you know, all the public sides lost, which, by
the way, is a big departure from last year, right,
where like the public sides were just we're just dominating NonStop.
It's interally interesting to see like that just that just
didn't happen. So Texas man like again, I kind of
looked at Ohio State. I thought, I thought, offensively, that's
(11:39):
what we get from Ohio State. You have think like
Ageain Julian Sam making this first start, right, they have
four new offensive linemen, tun new running back to new
wide receivers like tight ends are good, but sort of
in different spots this year, right, some of their tightands
left as well, and the first time off it'sive coordinator
Brian Harline. It's first time calling plays now. Ryan Day
is obviously gonna help Texas defense is really good. I
thought that's what we get from ohiouse. I thought we'd
(12:01):
get more from Texas, And I know people have very
degrees on that what that more should have been from Arch.
Arch was a Heisman favorite. Wow, Yeah, it's like is
kind of nuts and Kate Klubnick was like second in
line for Heisman and that didn't go very well. So
a really really interesting weeknd have Ball. We said we
(12:21):
was still a game tonight by the way that oh yeah,
one more tonight. So I don't know, but what your
big takeaway was ready of the games, but that's sort
of mine. So I think that it's just hard to
play when you're young man, and I don't think we
take any consideration enough we talk about college football.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, no, it makes sense. And the buckets that you're
talking about. Sometimes you see the hybrid guy. You know,
there's a guy that wants to come back for a
championship and it's tied to the fact that he's a
projected third or fourth round pick, you know, so you
get that experienced guy coming back to Sometimes I just
say this, and you tell me if I'm going way
too light here, because you know me, I'll go after
(13:00):
you if that's what I think is the case. You know,
I'll be critical of a team or a certain player
if they stink it up.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But with Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Listen, I'm from South pand I'm a die hard Notre
Dame fan, and I don't think I'm being too soft
here because it's something that you said in week six.
I think Notre Dame's going to look a lot different
than they did last night, and I'd rather have both.
I'd rather have CJ. Carr look pretty good and Notre
Dame win. But if it's one or the other, I
(13:30):
would rather that CEJ.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Carr.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It looks like Notre Dame probably has a quarterback for
a handful of years now in CJ.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Carr.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
If it's one of the two and I have to choose,
I would choose CJ.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Car looks pretty good.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
They look to have a quarterback versus I want to
win the game. No matter what, I'll put it this way,
it'd be pretty hollow and I'd feel like, oh gosh,
Notre Dame one. But man, they got a disaster and
quarterback right now.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So he looked pretty good. In the second half.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
They finally took the handcuffs off of him so conservative
early on, but if they didn't win, he looks like
he's at least a legitimate starter.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So here, here's why, here's why you think that, and
I think that's the right way to look at it.
College ball playoff has forced us to think about college
football differently. If you have a team that's good enough
to be in the playoff completely, yeah, you know it
used to be obviously, like you know that loss last
night would have been like end of the.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Season, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, okay, especially with with with your with your with
your schedule the season, just that you're not at a
conference right like sometimes you know when that that you
the confienchmpionship game to get into the postseason. Correct, it's
not that last year with ACC and the Big twelve,
like you know, win that game to get in their name.
Obviously not in that situation for for that to happen.
And so it allows a little bit of grace for
these early games. Also things allows the schedule to schedule
(14:47):
these early games because you know your loss is not
an inter season, so so you know you look at
in a big picture. Now, same with Orgon, where like
I I don't look at like the the result of
the score. I know we played Montana State. I look
at the process of how we won the game or
played during the game because I'm like, Okay, well, what
(15:08):
do we have to do to get ready for Penn
State in five weeks? Like I was talking to someone
on the sideline before the game about months. They're like,
what do you expect today? Go, we have four weeks
to get ready to pay Penning States. That's all I
care about. YEA, like because like that, that's that's like
the sport now right work. It's a very NFL mindset. Yeah,
if I'll start this week, we have our favorite teams.
I'm a Chiefs fan. You're a Dolphins fan. You know,
(15:28):
you look at this season as in the NFL like
losses suck. You don't want your team to lose. But
it's like if you're root for a good team, it's like, okay, well,
how does this affect our posties and chances? Yeah? And
that's what culled football to me, is turned into at
the top, where for you instead of dwelling on the loss,
which stings on so you want to win, it stings
to lose, especially the way you lost. You're like, oh, okay,
Car's got a chance now, you know, we get we
(15:49):
get him better this year, and then we have you know,
we get him the right place by week six, and
then by week ten, and then by week twelve and
then week fourteen and the time we play us, he's
not late. Stanford game is the right the late one
this year? I think you go to Stanford late, right ya?
By the time we played Stanford, like okay, like we're
you know, is he playing the way he needs to play?
That's very different now because of the playoff. I think
(16:12):
it's actually one positive of the playoff, Brian, is you
get to think like a pro sports.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Fan, no doubt. Yeah, it's funny excited flashback too. It
was an old Notre Dame Michigan game, like the first
game of the year, and Notre Dame pulled it out
at the very end, and for some reason, I remember
them showing on TV and Usher, right the Usher was
on the field and he kind of just like collapsed
into the wall, you know what I mean. He's just
(16:36):
holding his head like, oh my gosh, the season's over
before it even began. And that's the way it used
to be. Yeah, And now that you have twelve teams
in the playoff.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It is. It's completely different.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
So yeah, the loss is sock man, but you got
to look more of the big picture instead of just
to hear.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And now that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
And last night, Brian was I for the first time
ever in my life, I have played an official contest
in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh okay, you're on the college football team.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
College football?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
What?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
And I went four and three in my first week
of my first contest week. Yeah, so I'll take I'll
take the winning record. Miami was my last leg. Sorry,
Brian oh Man, and I I'm proud of myself four
and three first week, Like I am notoriously a slow
starter in college football, and I will it's college football, man,
(17:25):
or the season. I think it's so difficult. You just
don't know about these teams, dude.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You yeah, no idea And contests.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Man, it's hard because you're like four and three not bad,
and then you look at the standing how many people
went seven and oh my gosh, I wasn't so bad.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But you have to finish. Like I thought about this,
like if I went four and three every week, you'd
be like ecstatic. Right in the season, you'd be what
you'd be twelve thirteen over five hundred, right like that
would be an incredible record. You wouldn't be close to.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Winning, not even close. Yeah, exactly pretty much what it is.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
If I told you I was thirteen five hundred for
an entire season, you'd be like, Schwartz, that is a
great job.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, And then you'd be looking up at like the
top twenty five to fifty dudes who finished ahead, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's crazy, but how they do it?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
I did it though, fire hundred dollar entry very nice,
and I know Crack entered a few of those as well.
Do you enter any you do contest, I'll.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Do contests from time to time, but I didn't do
anything like that. Where you guys are in this.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Year my first year. I'm I'm I'm very excited. So
uh yeah, great great starts. The weekend got well with
Eugene got a cheese grater, got it, my daughter got
a giant hat, and we are we're off and rolling.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Brian, very nice, very good.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
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Speaker 2 (20:34):
Alrighty there, Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
So Jeff, who was the biggest disappointment as far as
the team goes? We've got two leading candidates here, Okay,
Texas is on the shortlist, Alabama is on the short list.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The only two answers that are acceptable from this weekend?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, if you break the tie, who are you going with?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
There? I think for maybe what I expect did versus
basically what I got, I think it's it's it's probably Alabama. Yeah,
you know, I'm a big fan of killing to board
(21:12):
their head coach. And maybe it's because I watched his
Washington team just thoroughly dominated my Ducks for many, many weeks,
and you know, they really just ended up being three times.
But I watched him for I covered them, I watched him.
I've studied his history obviously when he became a Washington coach,
(21:33):
and the success that he had over the years. I
expected big things from him this season. I just did,
and they can still happen. So to see them fall
flat the way they did, and I'll tell you what, Brian,
(21:54):
it's not the score that I think is so interesting
to me. It's that it's the way that they were losing.
I know people want to compare him to Nick Saban.
He's not Nick Saban, okay, And the team is not
going to play the same as it did with Nick Saban.
But the problem with all this is that there's just
a lot of like effort issues and there's a lot
(22:18):
of gatin your butt kicked in the trenches. And what's
interesting is Washington didn't have these problems Like Washington. His
team won the Joe Moore Award, which is the other
offensive line award. It was his his teams were physical,
his defense was played much better basically than the stats,
like every week they were good on third down, they
rushed the past decently well they had. Alabama did none
(22:41):
of those things, and it was rather shocking. Now, I
think that maybe people were too low on Florida State
after last season and in Castilanos, you know, I think
there was questions about whether or not, Like after watching
a BC was like any good, right, Like those are
those are all fair?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Right? Those are fair questions about Florida State. But Alabama,
man like just not good. They come out blazing. And
you mentioned about about football. Okay, for those who are
new to sport, welcome, I'm glad you're here. But you know,
there's a lot of times the first drive or two
is scripted. What I mean by script is you have
(23:22):
a set of plays you've practiced, you want to run
these set of plays, and that even that even goes
as far as your favorite third down play, third and two,
third and three right, then third and medium, So four
to six, third and seven to ten, and third and
eleven plus includes your first red zone calls, includes your
first goal line calls just for short yardage calls, includes
(23:42):
all those things, right, they're all including this sort of menu.
And a lot of times a first drive of a
game will look pretty good because they're scripted, like you
you know, it's all practice, right, and then what happens
after that is really a lot. So like Bama scored
the first drive of the game, Oh great, like you're
on script, and then it just all went bad. It
all went bad after that, And it happens a lot
(24:05):
in this sport. You see, like you'll see games this
weekend where an underdog comes out and scores on the
first drive of the game and it's like that's their
best seven, eight, nine plays they have and they don't
score again the rest of the game. It happens all
the time, right, And so the scripted part was good.
Came out seven points immediately, and then basically a lot
(24:26):
of nothing. And again the effort you can pushed off
the line of scrimmage as much as they were in
this game. And that's really I thought Bama's gonna have
a bounce back year. I'm not saying they can't have
a bounce back a year, but with their schedule. Man,
I don't see I just don't see it. And that's
going to concern you if you're a Bama fan.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Well, that's the thing with Bama is absolutely the more
disappointing team instead of Texas. Yes, and the first part
of this is they had a hard time running the
ball and they had a really hard time stopping the run.
That's where it starts. You know, it just goes downhill
from there. But they were getting bullied in the trenches.
And their offensive line is fantastic. They've got dudes on
(25:07):
that offensive line, and they weren't running the ball nearly
as well as Florida State was running it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And you know, if you just.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Do the tail of the tape with Texas, look, man,
I know Arch Manning was disappointing. He had a terrible
game and it was a dud for Texas to lose
the way they did. Only scored seven points all afternoon long.
But at the end of the day, they lost to
Ohio State, who's the defending champs on the road. You know, like,
that's not the biggest sin in college football that you
(25:37):
can commit. Alabama lost to an unranked Florida State team
who was two and ten the year.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Before, that's way worse.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And when you look at the Kaylan de Boor thing,
like you just do like the Sark versus Kaylin de
Boor thing, there's a reason why Bama fans are freaking out.
Like partly they're nuts and their expectations are crazy, but
you're looking at Kaitlin Debor and maybe you said, all right,
I've had a whole offseason to digest year one. It
(26:06):
was a huge disappointment. But let's give this guy a chance.
Let's let him get his recruits in there. Now, he's
got Ryan Grubb as his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
He's back and let's go.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And they get punched in the mouth Game one against
Florida State. Man, it's all that like let's give him
a chance goes right out the window, and you're like,
wait a minute. So they're losing to Florida State this year,
they lost to a disappointing Oklahoma team.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And Vanderbilt last year.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Like what the hell, We're used to Nick Saban living
in the penthouse here and we have to digest these
rough losses. They're not used to that at all. So
they're freaking out, I think with good reason. And like
if you just compare the opponents playing at Ohio State
versus playing at Florida State.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It's just not the same thing right now.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So yeah, absolutely Obama is the more disappointing team than Texas.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
And I think that sometimes two in week one, I
don't think I know in week one. One of the
interesting parts about week one is, yeah, you just sometimes
don't know what you're getting from the opponent. Like you
have a new quarterback in Casilanos who runs the ball right,
kind of different than than Mike Norvella has had at
Florida State. Not totally, but like Jordan Travis wasn't a
(27:21):
big he could run, but he wasn't like running.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
The football right.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
You know, Dju was not doing it quite the same.
Like you're gonna get a new offense, right, You're going
to get new things, you see, and Bama just didn't
seem prepared. Yeah, sort of the problem because yeah, I'm
watching right now, like I found the play. You know. Look,
I I used to not I used to feel bad
about calling out college kids because I was like, they're
(27:45):
not getting paid. I'm not going to treat them like pros.
But now they get paid, I don't care. I mean
the reverse touchdown that that Bama had with about nine
minutes left the second quarter. There are dudes on the
backside of this play that are loafing by Alabama.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, there's one in particular. Yeah, the guy's loaf and.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Just look like it is. It is bad dude. Yeah,
and you might lose, but lose with effort. Right, he
was like and and so that to me was the
biggest problem I saw. And his biots like seventy million.
I know people keep saying he's not going Anyone tell
you what if he don't win, this year's gone. I
don't care what Bam will find the money to get
rid of them. So to me, it's that you mentioned. Look,
(28:23):
Texas played Ohio State on the road. I thought that
they probably should have given more of the offense to
Arch that they didn't do it enough. I think early
on they were little. Look we saw this with Dodame
might trying to figure out what the offense needs to
be with your quarterback, and Alabama easily is disappointing in that.
In that manner, I don't think there's even Texas might
(28:45):
be a second, but I don't think it's a close second.
I think it's it's really his Alabama.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
And you mentioned Castellanos. He had that quote in the
off season leading up to the game where they don't
have Nick Saban to save them and they say, and
I just don't see them stopping me.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And he backed it up right.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
A really good game rush for seventy eight yards, probably
rushed for like one hundred and fifty yards, But we
subtract the sackach for number one thing change and it's
so dumb, dumb, it's so good. Example, it was Leonora
Sellers yesterday who was fantastic running the ball, and at
one time he had this scramble on the final drive,
(29:25):
great scramble down the sideline, made a guy miss the
whole thing, and it's like, oh man, what's his rushing
total at now? And it was like something absurd. It
was like sixteen rushes for seventeen yards. A lot of
that's just the sack yardage. It's not a clear indication
of what they're doing running the ball at all. It's
the dumbest thing ever. And it screws up your bets too.
(29:46):
By the way, if you're betting the over on rushing.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yard freak, I think I think with quarterbacks, it's really
hard unless you know the offensive line keep protected in
that game. Yeah, otherwise you just can't do it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
You're saying this, here's here's the impression of me or
any better taking the over of a college quarterbacks. Rushing yardage. Okay,
he drops back to pass.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And the rest of the afternoon you're gonna be like,
just throw the.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Ball, just just get rint, throw it anywhere, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Just don't take the sack yardage because it's gonna screw
up your play.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Well, So the best way you're to meet it, make
and this is you don't find this every weekend, is
the rushing attempts.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Look. I took Riley Leonard a bunch of the postseason
last year and it worked out well. The attempts because
the sack counts is attempt Well, the is you're not
going to get rushing attempts in every weekend, Like that's
that's a that's very much like a you know, uh,
something that you have to basically get for big games. Correct. Yeah,
And so that that's the way to play those quarterbacks,
(30:48):
is the rushing attempts over. So, but no, the less
it was a very very fun week and I've enjoyed it.
Tonight tonight we have maybe so Brian is game tonight
North Carolina TCU. Okay, Bill Belichick's first game. So they're
(31:10):
trying to make this like Deon Sanders in Colorado. Correct,
They're trying to give us that same vibe. And I'll
tell you what, man, I don't really care about the
Belichuck story.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Wow, you're out, You're out of the story.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Out. But to me, now, I was covering Colorado full time.
When Dion came to the PAC twelve. I was doing
pack to radio. It's no longer there because we don't
have a PAC twelve anymore. So maybe I was in
I was in it every day. But the way Dion
came to Colorado announced his presence right and did it
with the flair and did it with thevado and the confidence. Uh,
(31:49):
it was a lot of fun to cover. And the portal,
the way he did the portal and his son and
Travis Hunter and I disagree with some of the way
they handled it, absolutely, but but I but I am
appreciated the content we were getting from it. You know,
Belichick is going to do it Belichick's way. Absolutely, which
(32:11):
is totally fine and fair, but I just don't find
it as intriguing because I think I know what I'm
getting is as well from Belichick. With Dion, the intrigue
was like, I don't I don't know what I'm getting
from Dion. I don't know what get from from Sadurago
and from Jackson State, you know, Travis Hunter, like all
these things. I feel very comfortable with getting from from
Bill Belichick tonight, And that I think is also why
(32:34):
I'm just not as excited to run this sort of
back again or a new coach, a big name, Like
what are we getting from him? I don't know what
we're going to see? And the reason why I feel
like I know I'm getting from from Belichick is is
this sport, college football is a player acquisition sport. And
if you look at the last five Newland Patriots drafts
and a Bill Belichick he failed mightily a ton acquisition.
(32:57):
Are we getting how much different in North Caeria?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Like?
Speaker 4 (33:00):
What about North Carolina makes you think that this team's
gouna be any different play it wise right than we
saw in New England.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
No, it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
We'll build off of that because I want to get
into the Belichick and you know, looking at college football
as a whole. Right, we'll do this around the corner.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. No, we're in for the guys,
in for two pros and a cup of Joe. Coming
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Speaker 2 (33:24):
Who's the biggest draw in college football?
Speaker 3 (33:28):
If you look at coaches, players, you got your short list,
what do you boil it down to, say, top three,
top five? Who are some of the names on your list.
Where's Belichick on that list? If he even is. We'll
get to that right around the corner. Hang with us
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You must be like, oh my gosh, I we're to
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How I like to vomit because the Giants are very good.
I mean they've won a couple of games where your recently,
you know, think about sports is so funny, right, the
Giants have just been atrocious, right, They've been just one
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they're like winning just enough games where it's like, well
think they're like close.
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you think, hey, I actually have a shot to maybe
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Look I think they're within five of the wildcard. Now
you're like, oh, okay, well you know got we got
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like we you know, get a few upsets, like we
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Speaker 3 (35:39):
It's right at that time where they're like, all right,
complete nose dive.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
All right.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So I was thinking about this.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You mentioned, you know, a couple of minutes ago, Bill
Belichick making his college debut at North Carolina tonight and.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Certainly a big name. But is he a big draw?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Is he a guy that you you find interesting to
the point where you're like, man, I'm really looking forward
to seeing what he does with North Carolina tonight. If
you compare Belichick to the biggest draws, we're talking big
name recognition, it causes you to either have an opinion
or really watch their games closer than you would if
(36:18):
that coach, if that star player weren't there. If you
look at the biggest draws in college football, where would
you put Belichick among some of the biggest draws elsewhere?
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Okay, so I personally don't think he's that big of
a draw, but I think that he's in the top
three for everyone else. Okay yo, ESPN is treating him
like he's Deon like that, They're like, they're giving him
the d On treatment. And so is that because there's
that level of excitement to watch a player they banking
on that, that there's that level of excitement, Like what
(36:50):
is the reason why they might know that better than
I do? Uh? But certainly, I mean, people very much
care about what he does today, and I'm gonna watch.
I'm not down the opportunity to watch. But so there, Brian,
there are people that this only feel that this is
this is the draw? Is deal? I mean, is Belichick
(37:10):
the draw in college football? Though, to me is always teams.
It's not it's not coaches, so like it's always going
to be teams over for the most part, over coaches.
So I don't know. I mean, I think the biggest
draw is still right now because they want to Chermion's
Ohio State as a brand. They think, to me, are
(37:33):
probably the biggest draw right now. I think you're a name,
You're I think your Irish are in the top five
as far as teams that people want to watch every week.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yeah, yeah, I look at it where I hear you
on teams, I break it down a little bit more
where look. I put it like this, the biggest draws
in college football, if you're looking at coaches or players,
it's got to be someone that pretty much everybody has
an opinion on. Dion Sanders is one of those guys.
Arch Manning is one of those guys right now, right,
(37:59):
Jeremiah Smith is interesting. As much of a star as he.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Is, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I mean, he's not one of those guys, right Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I think he's a guy that like must watch a
sort of a wrong word, but I want to watch
him on offense as much as I can. I don't
know if watches the right way to put it, dionis
is still super polarizing. And the reason why, and this
is actually kind of to me a little surprising about
Dion is he is a super conservative head coach. And
(38:29):
it kind of bothers me because you would think that
he would be someone who.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Is just let it all hang out kind of yeah,
And the.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Opposite is true that he calls it it's a conservative
game all the time. And it's like, dude, you're Dion
man Like, wouldn't you and of all the people that
I think would call like a field goal fourth and two,
it wouldn't be Dion. He has never turned on a
field goal. He he you know, the game management's been poor.
(39:03):
Like I, I just sort of would have thought that
he was a guy that like that was analytics, progressive,
like a going for like all that stuff, and it's
really not his style of ball and kind of frustrates me.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, it is interesting, but kind of based on how
flashy he was as a player. Yeah, and it's not
the same type of approach as a coach. He right,
it is different, but he's certainly one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
People are incredibly opinionated, like for him against him. Deon
Sanders is a lightning rod and huge for college football.
I'm wondering if Bill Belichick. I think a lot of
people like you, go back to the offseason, there are
a lot of people saying.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Why is he even in college? What does North Carolina
do it?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I think that is dumb. It's North Carolina. Why wouldn't
they say yes to Bill Belichick? That's ridiculous to me.
But the point is there are a lot of people
that had opinions one way or the other with Belichick, and.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
That's ton down quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I think they like North Carolina is such an afterthought
and the expectations are so low.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
That's the other part. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
The thing that is different between Belchick and Dion we'll
talk about on the other side. It's expectations.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yeah, the expectations are pretty low. I mean, listen, the
expectations were low for Dion year one, and you know
they'd start off with TCU and it was the do
you believe now, Edward.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Or There's also a different rooting interest in both of
their successes, which I think makes this a pretty fun story.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
All right, coming up next.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
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