February 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Brian Noe & Jason Martin fill in for the guys and talk about the NBA All-Star Weekend and how they feel about the new All-Star Game format, more accusers coming out against Justin Tucker, Draymond Green's delusions, and more!
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
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how are things, buddy, Our first show in the.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
New year, is that right? Maybe that's right? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Okay, that is right.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Good.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I didn't know if that was right or wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Did you watch any of the All Star Game festivities yesterday?
I was watching SNL the fifty year anniversary. I was
paying attention to the All Star Game, weird format, a
little more defense than last year when they combined for
three hundred and ninety seven points, and so they revamped
the whole All Star Game. Did you like it at all?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
No? None, not really. I mean, here's it. I'll just
say this. Look, they're trying, Adam Silver's trying to find
a way to make this thing matter. But I think
maybe the singular moment that defined it for me was
a league that right now needs some good press, some
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good headlines, just in terms of the ratings numbers and
all the things that it just is not particularly a
cool league. It doesn't feel like right now, and a
lot of the things that are being talked about are
trying to explain where it finds itself. And the most
marketable star since Michael Jordan just decided no, I'm not
gonna play. And look, I don't necessarily blame him. I
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mean he's gonna rest his foot, he's gonna rest all
this kind of stuff. But you've got your commissioner doing
you know, contortions trying to make this thing work, and
Lebron's just gonna say, nah, gonna not gonna worry about that.
So and he made that decision and it came there
you know that day. That to me kind of that
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was the microcosm, the thirty thousand foot view of it
all is just like even Lebron was just nah, you
know what, I'm still gonna take this thing off. So
I watched it via highlights and I watched some Saturday night,
but celebrated Valentine's with the wife last night, so we
went out for dinner. Because look, when you got two kids,
sometimes you can't do it on the day. So we
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had to find we had to find the right day
to do it. And unfortunately the All Star Game was
not going to deter me from a good steak last night.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
There you go, nice, you get down like medium, medium, rare, medium, medium, rare.
I go medium myself. That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, that's what the wife did, so did she? Yeah,
your company?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
How about I need to know a little bit more
t bone you go, uh, you know New York.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
This was this was a coffee cured filet Mignon. Okay,
ten outs, very nice.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Okay, I go ribbi quite often myself, but good stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, I can't go wrong with that. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I hate to be angry right away, but I've got
to be slightly angry on this one.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
J mart Is.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Look, man, a lot of the players were asked like, hey,
what did you think of the new format? Any ideas
to maybe tweak this thing going forward? And you know
what's coming. There were a number of players that would
tell Dave mcmanhamon from ESPN or some of the other
you know, reporters, They're like, you know, maybe a little
more money, you know, maybe a little bit more financial incentive.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Listen, man, this is so weak, Jason.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's just the truth where these guys are making so
much money and the nerve to be like, yeah, maybe
a little bit more money could incentivize incentivize us to
just I don't play with half care, you know what
I mean, Like nobody's expecting playoff intensity out there at all.
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It's just don't make a mockery of everything, not playing
a hint of defense, like that's the that's the baseline
of what we're hoping for. And yet there are a
lot of players that are like, yeah, maybe a little
bit more financial incentive. It trives me crazy. I love
the NBA. I love basketball. That part of it drives
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me crazy. Man. Now, it was better than last year,
But what kind of baseline is that?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Like last year was just unwatchable and it was better
this year. I believe one of the semi final games
there were six blocks, which was more than all of
last year's games.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It's a little bit better. But yeah, you watched All
Star Saturday? Do you like that? Well? I mean, I see,
I was I hosted from uh, you know, eleven Eastern,
so we basically came on right after the Dunk Contest.
So I watched that portion of it, and I knew
what had happened prior. I just look, even though the
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dunk contest is not now, I kind of watch it
to see how bad it's gonna be. But I always
watched the dunk contest, and you know, Mac McClung came
out and did his thing. He you know, punk satani
filled it came out of his came out of his
hole for for the one day a year in which
he sees than he he's the shadow wins the dunk
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contest and goes back away for another year. Right, That's
that's generally kind of what it was. But I mean,
he's fun to watch, But again, I think it's kind
of an indictment on the NBA. When Kenny Smith on
the broadcast said, let's just not have a contest, Let's
just have Mac mcclun come out here and wow us
with five dunks and call it a day, It's just like,
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that's that's pretty much what this is. Like. There's not
a contest here. None of these guys have name recognition
except mcclun just because he does that one thing and
he can sit there and practice that all year long.
And then to find out that from Vince Carter, to
find out that they all have dunk coaches now that
practice do all this, I'm like, so you're practicing dunks
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with a dunk coach during the season, and apparently they
all use the same guy. He was out there badly
trying to throw passes for them or lobs or whatever.
It was not a not a great comp petition except McClung,
who had a perfect score because that's what he does.
I mean, he had what he had five dunks and
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he was out there. It took like five minutes combined
to do those five dunks or whatever it was. And
the stat was that that's more than he's played in
the NBA this season.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Oh man, wow, that's insane right there. Yeah, but mac
McClung again, he delivers the three peace never been done before.
He is like Reggie said it. Reggie Miller was on
the broadcast. He's like he's single handedly saving the dunk
contest and he is like Stefan Castle actually did pretty well.
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That was a legitimate showdown the final two dunks of
the last round. So it was fun, you know, it
at least wasn't a colossal failure. You know, it wasn't
a total dud. But the couple of those dunks by McClung,
like the two basketballs that dunk at the same time,
was really well executed. Jumping over the Kia was fun.
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Like the landing was weird where he kind of like
nicked the side of the car and fell down, but
somehow it worked and was more memorable that way.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It actually was all right.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It was okay. I was fine with that. It's just
the name recognition. The best we can do with the
dunk contest. Now, Jason is get big names teasing us
like strippers about like John Moran, Hey, Mac might make me,
might make.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Me decide to dunk. And it's like, okay, clean, yeah,
wake me up.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
If you guys actually do it instead of just firing
off a couple of tweets, you know, that's the best
we can do as far as star power goes.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, And I think the other problem is just that's
not the NBA. I mean, you might as well have
just grabbed a Torres to Eron. Torres said this Saturday night,
and I was thinking it while watching the thing. It's
this is just grabbing an AM one mixtape guy and
having him go out there and dunk and put on
a show. And I said, I mean, we're one step
away from the Phoenix Sun's Gorilla, Like that's that's that's
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kind of what this is. Like, that's not even an
NBA player. It's supposed to be an NBA All Star Weekend.
He's a G League player. Yeah, And I mean it's
cool because you know, good on him. He's doing what
he should do and he's got an incredible skill and
he's out there showing it. Off and all, but that's
not even your league. This is All Star weekend for
the NBA, and you have somebody out there the only
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one that really you're right. I mean, Castle's first dunk
was decent. His second dunk I thought he'd kind of
pulled back on because he knew all he had to
do was finish it, because the other two guys had,
you know, tripped over their own shoelaces out there trying
to get it done, and so I thought maybe he
was going to hold something and he did, I guess,
but nobody for a split second thought there was a
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chance that anybody was gonna win. That wasn't mcclong. Yeah,
if he finished his dunks, and that's just what he does.
So you look at it all through that lens and
it's just kind of like, I mean, the NBA guys
and this this comes down to it. You talk about
the money issue when it comes to the All Star Game.
These dudes playing on fully guaranteed contracts, and one of
the biggest arguments about where this league finds itself right
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now is that these guys the money's already guaranteed, so
there's no incentive even for them to play during the season,
they can kind of sit out, they can make business
decisions for themselves and all this other kind of stuff.
And if they had half guaranteed money, maybe that would change.
So be careful what you wish for, because at some
point something does need to change, because the perception of
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the league is that you guys don't care as much
as your own fans, and that's just the thing that
can't be Like, yeah, I can't care more about your
league than you do if you play in that league
and you said you love ball, and so do I.
I've been an NBA fanm my entire life, and I
find myself criticizing the league now far more than enjoying it.
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And I think a lot of it is just I
get the sense that I care more than the guys
that are actually playing, and that's a shame, you know who.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I feel like I feel like Chris Rock. This just
popped up in my head. One of his comedy specials.
He was talking about how much he loves rap music,
and he said, like, some of this is really hard
to defend. He's like, I can't defend I got hoes
in different area codes, you know, Like he can't defend it,
Like there are certain songs that are indefensible, and that's
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how I feel about the NBA when it comes to
not the entirety of it, but certain things where load management.
That's hard to defend as an NBA fan, as someone
who like.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Sticks up for the league.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
There's so much negativity of oh it is this three
point shots?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
It's unwatchable.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I'm one of those guys and I know you are too,
that stands up for the league. But there are times
like All Star weekend where like the new format and
the lack of effort. Although it was better this year,
it's still not good. I can't sit here and say
it was good. It's hard to defend if someone is like, man,
like you just laid out, they don't care as much
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as fans do.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And that's a problem. How could someone who's making.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Two hundred and fifty three hundred plus million dollars care
less than I do I making my wage, you know,
like it should never be like that.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And that's the category.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Where As someone who sticks up for the league quite
a bit, I got nothing as far.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
If someone's like they don't care, I can't sit here like, no,
they do, they do.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean John Morant fired off a tweet after the
dunk contest kind of teasing us about maybe entering the
dunk contest. There's no way you can defend that. That's
just what it is right now.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, and again with it all guaranteed, how dare you
then say pay us more, will care more about the
All Star Game. She's like, come on, It's just it's
such a tone deaf thing to say. I understand that
you can't can't compare salaries in sports to any other occupation.
I understand that it's a completely different universe and it's
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not an apples to apples thing. But at the same time,
you guys are what you do for a living is
entertained on the floor. You were entertainers, and you're gonna
have to give it your all. You can't phone in
your performance and assume you're gonna win the Academy Award
for it. Like, you have to go out there show
the effort. Because the guy that paid to see you
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and the family that he is taking once or twice
a year maybe to go see you, he certainly put
in the effort to earn the money that made it
possible to take his family there. And then the least
you can do is care about that. The least you
can do is for that to actually feel like it matters.
And I think it is worth mentioning that the most
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interesting thing about your league in the last two years,
I would say, is a trade that many people think
might have been a conspiracy underneath, that sent Luka Doncic
to the Lakers. It's nothing that's happening on the basketball court.
Your trade deadline was far more interesting than your actual
regular season, your All Star Wars weekend, You're in season tournament,
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all of that kind of stuff. It's what took place
a couple of weeks ago, and it doesn't necessarily mean
a bunch of people are going to tune in to
watch the games. The NBA has a bit of a
problem now. Even if the All Star game format made
it a little bit more interesting last night, I don't
think that erases the larger problem that the perception of
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the league is. It's players just kind of shrug off
the sport that they play. Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
It popped in my head the first dunk contest that
Mac McClung won, Shack of course, was sitting courtside, and
you know how he films a lot of it, And
there was a little portion of it where they showed
Shack and he was talking to the people around him
and he was like he hungry.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
He was talking about Mac.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
McClung and he's stayed hungry, right like this is where
he eats is the dunk contest. But the problem is
a lot of players they haven't stayed hungry. The stars,
they haven't stayed hungry where it's just a should shrug
where they're showcasing the league. They don't look at it
that way. They look at it as like, oh my gosh,
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I have to do this. I'd rather have the free
time to go to Cabo or wherever I want to go.
They treat it like it's it's not showcasing the game
and showcasing the league. They treat it like it's this
stupid postgame interview that they'd just rather not do. They
treat it like the Greg Popovich like you know, in
game interview that he just detests, you know, and it
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comes across that way. It's just it's not good for
the league. It's not a good look whatsoever. Hey, we're
off and running. We've got Jason Martin here. I'm Priban No,
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Speaker 3 (16:04):
He's Jason Martin, I'm Brian no and for Two Pros
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You know, I don't want to go completely off the
rails here, but uh Loraina playing a little come as
you are from Nirvana and uh Man that guitar part,
Je mart If you I know you're a music guy too, Man,
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but if you start thinking about the most recognizable guitar
parts of songs, like that's gotta be on the short list,
you know what I mean? Like that is such a
recognizable intro. Waight, I'm just thinking off the top of
my head. Some you have anything on yours, Like, I'll
think of Voodoo Child from Jimmy, you know, like it's
such a definitely iconic, recognizable crazy Train.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Slash probably slash and Welcome to the Uh yeah, come
to the Jungle or November Rain. But yeah, I think that.
I think that's right. And what's funny is you're mentioning
comes you are. But I would say smells like Teen
Spirits even more recognizable than that. So I think they
they claimed to maybe two of the most iconic or
just famous, well known riffs, especially of the modern era.
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But if you went back further, I'm trying to think now,
like what might really I think Voodoo Child's a really
good poll. Yeah, that's a that's definitely up there.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I think of walk by Pantera as a very or
Inner Sandman, Inner.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Sandman, like the Inner Salmon is definitely on that list.
No question. Yeah, can I ask you guys a question?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, we do have.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Uh, you were mentioning you talking about Nirvanah came back
with Nirvana and then Brian you mentioned you were watching
the SNL fiftieth Yeah, did you watch the concert special?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Before no? Yeah, so post.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Malone performed with the you know, remaining members of Nirvana.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Sure, and I thought it was actually pretty awesome. I'll
have to check that out. I heard about so confusing.
I didn't know there were two different nights. There was
a whole like concert thing night before.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Wow. Well, I mean, music has been such an important
factor in sn O it doesn't surprise me. I didn't
know about it either, But I imagine it's on It's on Peacock.
All that stuff's probably on Peacock, So I'm gonna be
able to go back and watch all of it. That's cool. No, yeah,
you like it, Coop? Was it good?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
I mean, like I I'm a fan of post Malone
as a person. I think he's really cool, but I'm
not the biggest fan of his music.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Okay, So I when I saw.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Oh, for sure, for sure, but it's just it's.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Just not my thing.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Sure, But then when so when I saw, you know,
post Malone stands in for Kurt Cobain.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And I'm like, oh, geez, what is this gonna be?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yea, And I watched it and he kills it like,
I mean totally kind of channels the vibe of Cobain.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
I liked it a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Wow, it was day was Groll part of it.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah, yep, very cool.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I'll have to check that out, man, I didn't know
it was a couple of different nights. What'd you think
of the fifty year thing last night? How much of
it did you watch?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Jason? I didn't see, Like I said, I think it's
see any of it yet. I'm gonna watch it all
on pot com. Yeah. Yeah, uh, just because I was
gonna have to watch it and snips and everything that
was going on last night, so I didn't get a
chance to see it yet, but I'm definitely planning on
indulging in it today or tomorrow when I get the
opportunity to. I mean, I grew up on us and
now I certainly have tuned out in the last handful
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of years. Yeah, And a lot of the a lot
of where they've gone is I think they've always been there,
but I think maybe my own feelings have changed regarding
some of the content that they want to go into.
But like, I still respect so much, and I have
friends in Imparov and friends that have you know, done
sketch comedy and all this kind of stuff, and so
I am always impressed by that. And there's just a
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different world did you see Saturday Night, the film the
movie that came out handful of months ago that was
sort of like it was Jason Reitman who had directed
Juno and Up in the Air and some of that stuff.
It was basically like the first the first ever SNL.
How they got it on air, and it was basically
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taking a season's worth or a couple of seasons worth
of incidents behind closed doors and pushing them all into
that one night and making it look like it was
the biggest disaster that had ever happened, and all these
prima donnas and Chevy Chase and John Belushi quitting multiple
times and all this stuff. But it was really good.
Like I enjoyed the film a lot. If you get
an opportunity, you should check it out. But I've always
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been fascinated by that world. The Live in New York
book that the guys that also wrote the Sports Center
book years ago. Live in New York's an excellent book
if you haven't read it, just if you're interested in
that world. It's I mean, it's basically it's a verbal account.
It's a uh, it's everybody that did it commenting on
it in this state, and it's really really good. So
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I imagine the fiftieth. I'm sure they showed out pretty
well for that. Last night, it was all right, this
is all right.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I give it a B minus maybe a C plus.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
What did they waste time on that? That felt like
they could have done other stuff?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I mean like it's just it's SNL, right, Like there
are some skits that are just hilarious, and there are
other skits where you're like, yeah, this is not gonna work,
and it's gonna go on for at least another five minutes,
you know what I mean, Like they'll just have that
feeling to it. So I don't know how many sketches
they did total. Some of them are really funny, some
were good, others just kind of dragged on and were
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a total wasted time.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Well it is, that's it. Yeah, it's just basically, whatever
the joke is, they're gonna repeat that joke for five
or six minutes, and if you don't like the first joke,
I hate to tell you, but wait for the next
segment or go do something else. That's right, That's pretty
much what it is.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
How about this?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
We go from SNL to news that just keeps getting worse.
I even know, and I know I heard your teas,
and even though I didn't know exactly where we're going
to have a feeling, I know where we're going here.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, I think you know it's Raven's kicker, Justin Tucker. Yes,
we now have seven more women accusing him of sexual misconduct. So, Jason,
this is a total of sixteen therapists now from eight
different spas that have made accusations against the kicker, And
I just I don't know what you say about it
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at this point. I look at it like this, Sometimes
we look at sports as something different than real.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Life, and it's not. It's real life.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Like, what would you think if you're the partner and
you your partner's like, oh no, nothing happened. Now that
they're making this up unequivocally false, you know, and now
we get seven more accusers. At what point are you
just like, yeah, pretty hard to buy, Greg, Even if
you want to believe, how in your right mind can
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you believe everybody is just making something up out of
thin air?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
How can you actually believe that? Well? Yeah, I know
you have to. You have to get yourself to a
point where you can understand why all of these different
women are coming out to say similar things with similar accounts,
and actually in some cases some really heinous stuff. I mean, look,
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this is kind of what happened with DeShawn. It started
and then it continued to snowball and get larger and larger,
and the more that comes it doesn't mean that. It
doesn't mean because we don't know for sure whether or
not anything happened. But I remember immediately when the first
stuff started coming out, I saw a couple of comments.
It was just like, yeah, make sure you have the
(23:55):
same energy for Justin Tucker that you did for Deshaun.
Watched sure, and my reaction was this, like what you're saying,
but no one is defending this, Like this is going
to go down exactly the same way. Like we're all
on board here, man, Like if this guy, if this
guy did this, then he's going to get the same treatment,
except that he's not going to have a full guaranteed
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contract waiting for him at the end of it. So
you know that's the that's the part of it. But yeah,
your point about the partner is right, like eventually it
has to wear on you because that person, the one
that's being accused, has to almost has to prove. He
has to prove something that can't be proved. But what
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is it that all of these women have that Like
why are you going after the Ravens kicker? Like why
is that the target of some kind of you know,
right fall something or other? It does it? It? There's
there's a whole lot here and it keeps growing and
all of it looks bad. Yeah. The the part about.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Having the same energy, it's like, listen, the first thing
is we're we're talking quarterback and kicker. Okay, we just
start with that. It's not just a black white thing.
It's quarterback kicker. And now, granted this is arguably the
greatest kicker in the history of the NFL, I still
think it's ad infinitaria. I don't know why everybody says
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it's just like automatically justin Tucker. But in any event,
it's still a kicker. Like, what's gonna move the needle
more a quarterback who signed a five year, two hundred
and thirty million dollar, fully guaranteed contract, or is it
gonna be a kicker? You know, come on, it's not
the same thing, so you're not gonna have the same energy.
But as far as like how can we in our
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right minds believe that?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Absolutely, I think there are a ton of similarities. So
that aspect of it, like having the same approach or
the same thought process. Yeah, that makes sense because with
just Tucker, just like Deshaun Watson, this isn't a case
of he said, she said. This is a case of
he said, they said, and they is growing. We're up
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to sixteen therapists in the Justin Tucker situation, so around
twenty five or so with DeShawn So yeah, like there
are aspects of it where they're similar, but like to act,
like quarterbacks and kickers are on the same level.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Are you crazy? Right now?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What do you think is gonna move the needle more
in the off season? Is it a quarterback landing on
a new team or is it a kicker landing on
a new team? Like, come on, let's be realistic about this.
I mean, yeah, how big of a story it's gonna be?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean it's like this, like that
dude will just disappear and never kick again. Like that's
that's the difference. Like Deshaun Watson because of his talent
level and because of what he does for a living,
meaning playing quarterback. To your point, you're gonna try to
turn yourself into knots to make that work, not for
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a kicker. And I will ask this. I was just
thinking about this, and maybe there's nothing to this. Justin
Tucker had a terrible year. He did, like by his standards,
he was awful this past year, but really by anybody's standards,
he was just that he wasn't reliable. All of a sudden,
there were actually questions about you guys okay to kickfield
goals in the playoffs based on how Justin Tucker's kicking.
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Is there any possibility that some of this stuff was
already behind closed doors he knew about some of this,
or somebody on his team. I don't mean the Ravens,
I mean I guess I assume as a legal team
or whoever's working with him, was this already dogging them
during the season, Like at the very least, I think
it's fair to ask the question because this is a
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dude who never missed ever, and then he started missing constantly,
and then within a few weeks the season, we start
learning about all sorts of inappropriate conduct allegations that are
coming out against him. May have one may have nothing
to do with the other. But it just makes me
wonder if one does have something to do with the other. Yeah,
very well, could very well.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
It's is it possible that Justin Tucker got off to
a bad start. He is a little bit older, maybe
there was some sort of injury that he was, you know,
dealing with, and then he gets in his own head.
We've seen this with many kickers where they're just you know,
their confidence is shaken and it just snowballs. I could
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see that too, But to your point, yeah, absolutely could
have had something to do with it. But we have,
Like we just saw Mahomes be drunk in the entire
first half of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I don't know who that was.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That was some Mahomes impostor on the field wearing number fifteen.
That wasn't the Mahomes I know. So it can happen,
but it's weird that it happened as repeatedly as it
did for Justin Tucker because that guy was unbelievable until
the twenty twenty four season. It was brutal man. He
was one of the worst kickers in the league. It
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was shocking to watch. So, yeah, maybe they'll off the
field stuff had something to do with it, but hard
to say for sure. How about college hoops this weekend,
J Martin, what caught your attention to most was good stuff? Man,
it was really good. Auburn's smacked around Alabama.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
It was excellent. Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And you had Alabama didn't lead throughout the entire game.
How about that Alabama's been so so good, especially on
their home floor. Didn't even have the lead, you know,
like a ten to nine lead to nothing. They didn't
lead at all, and they shot. Alabama did five for
twenty six from three point range. They're gonna be hard
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to win in college hoops if you're doing that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yes, you're right. I mean at the half they were
down nine and then they lost by nine, Like it
looked that. It's cool that you had a one to
two matchup between Auburn and Alabama that was in a
different sport that actually had people's attention, that that mattered
on Saturday, and of course both of them are going
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to be heard from in the NCAA tournament. But you
just look at Auburn again, it's just, man, Auburn's really
good and they're one of those teams that like when
they're on, you start to wonder how you're supposed to
beat them exactly, But yeah, five for twenty six not
gonna get it done. Lamenting all the three point woes
in the NBA. Those become unwatchable games. At the very least,
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when that happens in college, you know who's gonna win
and who's gonna lose five to twenty six under twenty percent. Yeah,
and at least it wasn't five for forty six, Like
it wasn't the Hornets Bulls game, oh Man December where
they went twenty one of ninety four or whatever it was.
Can you imagine like buying tickets to that game, and
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so this is the one game you get to go
see or you don't get to go to a whole
lot of games, and you pick Bulls or you're gonna
take the Bulls Hornets. Probably gonna be a low ticket game.
Maybe you get get a piece of merchandise as supposed
to happen to pay out to see a star. And
you go there and you see, like what I did
when I was eight years old, my dad was coaching
the team, Like I can go out there and shoot
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twenty of ninety four, like I can grab a group
of guys, probably in my neighborhood right now, and we
could do something approaching that, maybe stop shooting threes. Like
I get what the analytics says, but you do have
to make some of them for those analytics to be
proven right totally, Like you can you can do. The
math doesn't work if you're not making any of the shots.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, that's the that's the prerequisite is Hey, we got
to make some of these though, you know, like I
get it, get to the free throw line, layups, threes,
you gotta make some of your threes, man, And uh yeah,
it's uh, it's just this might be a ridiculous question,
but I think it's a legitimate one because you watch
Auburn do what they did against Alabama and they obviously
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the better team. But honest question, do you feel better
going forward if you're Auburn or if you're Alabama, Because
if you're Bama, you could look at this and be like,
I'm betting heavily that we don't wait, don't do this again.
We're not five for twenty six consistently going forward, We're
still a good three point shooting team. And Auburn on
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the other side, Jeni Broome tweaked his ankle and this
could be a lingering thing. So it's just one game,
and of course you feel better in the moment if
you're Auburn than Alabama, But going forward, I don't know
that Auburn is automatically in a better spot, a better
position to do damage come March than Alabama is. You know, like,
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I think that's legitimate when you start looking forward instead
of just keeping it to Saturday in the weekend.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You know, yeah, I mean I think that's right. And
you know, the the both beauty and madness of college
basketball is created by the fact that once you do
get to March, if you have one of those days,
you're gonna get beat. Almost every time, you're gonna get beat,
and you may get beat by someone that's far lesser
in terms of an on paper opponent. It's not four
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out of seven, where it's much more difficult to actually
win if you are kind of the underneath team, because
even one bad performance, they can still come back. You
just mentioned it, right, Alabama can look at this and
feel good about it and say, yeah, well this is
not gonna happen again. Well, it better not. That's that's
the thing because it's a one and done league, which
which is one of the reasons why it is so
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much fun to watch come March. But it's also infuriating
because so many times you don't feel like maybe all
the teams that should have been there got there. But
that's why it is relentlessly watchable. But you hope if
you are going to have a game like this, you
have it on February the fifteenth, yeah, as opposed to
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March the twenty seventh or something like that. So I
think you're right. I think that you hope you got
the stinker out of the way. Remember Jalen Hurt said
a few years ago, flush it after a bad performance, Like,
let's just flush that one and move on, And that's
what you You have to be able to do that.
It's just, yeah, that was a bad one. Really wanted
to beat our rival. But any endgame, it's not gonna
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matter that much. There's a tournament to come, and then
there's an NCAA tournament following the conference tournament. Let's worry
about those and just remember we got to show up
every night or we're gonna get beat and knocked out
of this thing and not finish our goals. I will
say this too, Jason.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You talk about like bad outside shooting and the Hornets
Bulls game, which was an eye sore. This is where
gambling can be your friend. Okay, if you're on the under,
it's like the most majestic thing you've ever seen before.
You know, they're just clanging threes left and right. I
was at you would love this. As a Broncos guy.
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I was at the Colts Broncos game a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I was on the under.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
And it was like, you know that twelve six game
or whatever, it even got to overtime, it.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Had no chance of going on a game it was.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
It was beautiful, man, Like, I loved all of that
sloppy play just because I was on the unders. So
that's what I encourage, especially if you're at the game.
It know, if if it gets off to a rocky start,
you're like, oh my gosh, this is rough. Think about
the end game under, Just think about it might change
how the game the.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Game looks in your eyes going forward. Man, that's an
interesting thought. You have to uh okay, all right, yeah,
just bust out the app there, Jason. All right, under,
if you got to create if you have to create
a reason for something to become watchable. Maybe do something else,
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that's the other option.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, that's true, but if you're at the game, you're
probably gonna stick it out. You know that's fair, that's
rue that I paid two hundred plus for these tickets.
I'm gonna at least see fourth quarter, I stated to
the bitter end. But you know, if you're sticking it out,
maybe make some cash. It's gonna it's gonna change your
perception of that game, all right. He's Jason Martin. I'm
Brian Know. We're in for two Pros and a Cup
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of Joe coming up. Two strongs, two strong stances by
the same guy. Uh, just one of them makes sense?
Well that into that. We're live from the Tirack dot
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Speaker 2 (36:04):
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Speaker 4 (36:15):
He's Jason Martin. I'm Probalyan Know.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
We're in for two Pros and a Cup of Joe
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Sports Radio. Okay, so two strong stances by the same guy.
That would be Draymond Green.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think only one of these stances makes sense. So
the two stances. One, Draymond Green said that the NBA
game right now is boring. There's no substance to it.
And I'll get you his full quote here in a second.
And his other stance is, uh, Warrior's gonna win a
ring this year. They're gonna win the chip. They got
Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Look out, here's what Draymond had to say on TNT
about the Warriors' chances of winning it all.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
We're going to win the championship.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Say that one more time so that everybody hear you
my ear piece.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Because they added Jimmy Bullert at third. So I'm sorry.
I said, I think we're gonna win a championship, and
I lie, we are going to win the chump Jason, Dude. Nope,
come on man, Nope. I mean I know that you're
doing the All Star weekend in the Bay like, I
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get it, and you're not gonna go out there and
say we're gonna lose. But nobody's buying that, buddy.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
No, it's a best of seven series. You know you
gotta win four of them. You're gonna go against the
team as deep as Okay, see that's.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
My I mean, that's my squad, like come on as
well known and for whatever reason, and I love it.
I picked a team years ago that uh now is
proving me they actually care in the regular season. Yeah,
they're out there playing hard and shake Gilus. Alexander is
bawling out and he's playing hard in the All Star Game.
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But they don't look like one of those teams is
just gonna walk into the playoffs and get beat because
nobody else was trying during a regular season. But yeah,
like Steph is really good Draymond, and you say things
like the thing he said about the boring game. He
also said in that in that comedy. It's like, yo,
you know, if there are teams that you know you
should get a you should get a favorable whistle. That's
the way it used to be. You get a favorable
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whistle if you won a championships. Like, dude, you're not
gonna get favorable whistles. Like the jury is not out
on you. We know, like you're gonna get the Rashii
Wallace treatment. But worse, like, like way worse. At this point,
they're not going to not call things because you're a star,
because you've won championships, because you happen to play alongside
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Hall of famers. It's probably gonna put you in the
Hall of Fame because you played alongside Hall of famers. Like, yeah,
Draymond says a lot of things, and you want to
sound good in front of your home crowd, but I mean,
we got to be realistic here. The Warriors are not
gonna win the championship this year. They're not going to
be anywhere near the champimpionship this year.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
No, there's if they play Okac, there's a better chance
they get swept then move on. That's just that's how
good Okac is. And you look at the Warriors like
literal rotation and you're like Santo's post, like who the
hell are these guys? I watched the NBA every day
and there are dudes in their rotation room, Like where
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do they find these guys? Like they used to have depth.
They don't have depth. You have to have that to
win it all in the NBA. It's a grind. The
other part of what Draymond was saying about the league
and just the quality of the game. He was talking
about a recent game facing Lebron James right. He faced
Lebron recently, and he mentioned that he was like, every
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possession is some type of chess move. You don't get
that today in the NBA often you don't just get
that on a regular basis. It's just who can run faster,
who can hit more threes. It's no substance. I think
it's very boring. What do you think of when you
hear Draymond say those things, Jason.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
I think you've been watching your own team for the
last ten years. But the thing about it is the
Warriors are not boring. One thing. The three point thing.
I'm I'm one hundred percent in favor of. I already
said I've gone full curmudgeon. I'm forty six going on
ninety six because i want to see the three point
line completely abolished from basketball because analytics. But one thing
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that it wasn't Draymond. I think it was Damian Lillard
who was commenting on something similar. He said, Yeah, Now
they basically say, look, you either lay the ball up
or you take a three. They basically demand that you
not shoot mid range. Jumpers anymore. Yeah. In the IPA, yeah,
if you want to it, says. Steph has come out
on podcasts and said, yeah, they blame me for changing
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the games, like I didn't tell them to shoot that.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Yeah, no doubt
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Speaker 4 (01:16):
New year, is that right? Maybe that's right? Right?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Okay, that is right.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Good.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I didn't know if that was right or wrong.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Did you watch any of the All Star Game festivities yesterday?
I was watching SNL the fifty year anniversary. I was
paying attention to the All Star Game, weird format, a
little more defense than last year when they combined for
three hundred and ninety seven points, and so they revamped
the whole All Star Game. Did you like it at all?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
No? None, not really. I mean, here's it. I'll just
say this. Look, they're trying, Adam Silver's trying to find
a way to make this thing matter. But I think
maybe the singular moment that defined it for me was
a league that right now needs some good press, some
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good headlines, just in terms of the ratings numbers and
all the things that it just is not particularly a
cool league. It doesn't feel like right now, and a
lot of the things that are being talked about are
trying to explain where it finds itself. And the most
marketable star since Michael Jordan just decided no, I'm not
gonna play. And look, I don't necessarily blame him. I
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mean he's gonna rest his foot, he's gonna rest all
this kind of stuff. But you've got your commissioner doing
you know, contortions trying to make this thing work, and
Lebron's just gonna say, nah, gonna not gonna worry about that.
So and he made that decision and it came there
you know that day. That to me kind of that
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was the microcosm, the thirty thousand foot view of it
all is just like even Lebron was just nah, you
know what, I'm still gonna take this thing off. So
I watched it via highlights and I watched some Saturday night,
but celebrated Valentine's with the wife last night, so we
went out for dinner. Because look, when you got two kids,
sometimes you can't do it on the day. So we
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had to find we had to find the right day
to do it. And unfortunately the All Star Game was
not going to deter me from a good steak last night.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
There you go, nice, you get down like medium, medium, rare, medium, medium, rare.
I go medium myself. That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, that's what the wife did, so did she? Yeah,
your company?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
How about I need to know a little bit more
t bone you go, uh, you know New York.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
This was this was a coffee cured filet Mignon. Okay,
ten outs, very nice.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Okay, I go ribbi quite often myself, but good stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Yeah, I can't go wrong with that. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I hate to be angry right away, but I've got
to be slightly angry on this one.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
J mart Is.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Look, man, a lot of the players were asked like, hey,
what did you think of the new format? Any ideas
to maybe tweak this thing going forward? And you know
what's coming. There were a number of players that would
tell Dave mcmanhamon from ESPN or some of the other
you know, reporters, They're like, you know, maybe a little
more money, you know, maybe a little bit more financial incentive.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Listen, man, this is so weak, Jason.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's just the truth where these guys are making so
much money and the nerve to be like, yeah, maybe
a little bit more money could incentivize incentivize us to
just I don't play with half care, you know what
I mean, Like nobody's expecting playoff intensity out there at all.
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It's just don't make a mockery of everything, not playing
a hint of defense, like that's the that's the baseline
of what we're hoping for. And yet there are a
lot of players that are like, yeah, maybe a little
bit more financial incentive. It trives me crazy. I love
the NBA. I love basketball. That part of it drives
(05:01):
me crazy. Man. Now, it was better than last year,
But what kind of baseline is that?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Like last year was just unwatchable and it was better
this year. I believe one of the semi final games
there were six blocks, which was more than all of
last year's games.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It's a little bit better. But yeah, you watched All
Star Saturday? Do you like that? Well? I mean, I see,
I was I hosted from uh, you know, eleven Eastern,
so we basically came on right after the Dunk Contest.
So I watched that portion of it, and I knew
what had happened prior. I just look, even though the
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dunk contest is not now, I kind of watch it
to see how bad it's gonna be. But I always
watched the dunk contest, and you know, Mac McClung came
out and did his thing. He you know, punk satani
filled it came out of his came out of his
hole for for the one day a year in which
he sees than he he's the shadow wins the dunk
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contest and goes back away for another year. Right, That's
that's generally kind of what it was. But I mean,
he's fun to watch, But again, I think it's kind
of an indictment on the NBA. When Kenny Smith on
the broadcast said, let's just not have a contest, Let's
just have Mac mcclun come out here and wow us
with five dunks and call it a day, It's just like,
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that's that's pretty much what this is. Like. There's not
a contest here. None of these guys have name recognition
except mcclun just because he does that one thing and
he can sit there and practice that all year long.
And then to find out that from Vince Carter, to
find out that they all have dunk coaches now that
practice do all this, I'm like, so you're practicing dunks
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with a dunk coach during the season, and apparently they
all use the same guy. He was out there badly
trying to throw passes for them or lobs or whatever.
It was not a not a great comp petition except McClung,
who had a perfect score because that's what he does.
I mean, he had what he had five dunks and
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he was out there. It took like five minutes combined
to do those five dunks or whatever it was. And
the stat was that that's more than he's played in
the NBA this season.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Oh man, wow, that's insane right there. Yeah, but mac
McClung again, he delivers the three peace never been done before.
He is like Reggie said it. Reggie Miller was on
the broadcast. He's like he's single handedly saving the dunk
contest and he is like Stefan Castle actually did pretty well.
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That was a legitimate showdown the final two dunks of
the last round. So it was fun, you know, it
at least wasn't a colossal failure. You know, it wasn't
a total dud. But the couple of those dunks by McClung,
like the two basketballs that dunk at the same time,
was really well executed. Jumping over the Kia was fun.
(07:59):
Like the landing was weird where he kind of like
nicked the side of the car and fell down, but
somehow it worked and was more memorable that way.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It actually was all right.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
It was okay. I was fine with that. It's just
the name recognition. The best we can do with the
dunk contest. Now, Jason is get big names teasing us
like strippers about like John Moran, Hey, Mac might make me,
might make.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Me decide to dunk. And it's like, okay, clean, yeah,
wake me up.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
If you guys actually do it instead of just firing
off a couple of tweets, you know, that's the best
we can do as far as star power goes.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, And I think the other problem is just that's
not the NBA. I mean, you might as well have
just grabbed a Torres to Eron. Torres said this Saturday night,
and I was thinking it while watching the thing. It's
this is just grabbing an AM one mixtape guy and
having him go out there and dunk and put on
a show. And I said, I mean, we're one step
away from the Phoenix Sun's Gorilla, Like that's that's that's
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kind of what this is. Like, that's not even an
NBA player. It's supposed to be an NBA All Star Weekend.
He's a G League player. Yeah, And I mean it's
cool because you know, good on him. He's doing what
he should do and he's got an incredible skill and
he's out there showing it. Off and all, but that's
not even your league. This is All Star weekend for
the NBA, and you have somebody out there the only
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one that really you're right. I mean, Castle's first dunk
was decent. His second dunk I thought he'd kind of
pulled back on because he knew all he had to
do was finish it, because the other two guys had,
you know, tripped over their own shoelaces out there trying
to get it done, and so I thought maybe he
was going to hold something and he did, I guess,
but nobody for a split second thought there was a
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chance that anybody was gonna win. That wasn't mcclong. Yeah,
if he finished his dunks, and that's just what he does.
So you look at it all through that lens and
it's just kind of like, I mean, the NBA guys
and this this comes down to it. You talk about
the money issue when it comes to the All Star Game.
These dudes playing on fully guaranteed contracts, and one of
the biggest arguments about where this league finds itself right
(10:05):
now is that these guys the money's already guaranteed, so
there's no incentive even for them to play during the season,
they can kind of sit out, they can make business
decisions for themselves and all this other kind of stuff.
And if they had half guaranteed money, maybe that would change.
So be careful what you wish for, because at some
point something does need to change, because the perception of
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the league is that you guys don't care as much
as your own fans, and that's just the thing that
can't be Like, yeah, I can't care more about your
league than you do if you play in that league
and you said you love ball, and so do I.
I've been an NBA fanm my entire life, and I
find myself criticizing the league now far more than enjoying it.
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And I think a lot of it is just I
get the sense that I care more than the guys
that are actually playing, and that's a shame, you know who.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I feel like I feel like Chris Rock. This just
popped up in my head. One of his comedy specials.
He was talking about how much he loves rap music,
and he said, like, some of this is really hard
to defend. He's like, I can't defend I got hoes
in different area codes, you know, Like he can't defend it,
Like there are certain songs that are indefensible, and that's
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how I feel about the NBA when it comes to
not the entirety of it, but certain things where load management.
That's hard to defend as an NBA fan, as someone
who like.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Sticks up for the league.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
There's so much negativity of oh it is this three
point shots?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
It's unwatchable.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I'm one of those guys and I know you are too,
that stands up for the league. But there are times
like All Star weekend where like the new format and
the lack of effort. Although it was better this year,
it's still not good. I can't sit here and say
it was good. It's hard to defend if someone is like, man,
like you just laid out, they don't care as much
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as fans do.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And that's a problem. How could someone who's making.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Two hundred and fifty three hundred plus million dollars care
less than I do I making my wage, you know,
like it should never be like that.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And that's the category.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Where As someone who sticks up for the league quite
a bit, I got nothing as far.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
If someone's like they don't care, I can't sit here like, no,
they do, they do.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean John Morant fired off a tweet after the
dunk contest kind of teasing us about maybe entering the
dunk contest. There's no way you can defend that. That's
just what it is right now.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, and again with it all guaranteed, how dare you
then say pay us more, will care more about the
All Star Game. She's like, come on, It's just it's
such a tone deaf thing to say. I understand that
you can't can't compare salaries in sports to any other occupation.
I understand that it's a completely different universe and it's
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not an apples to apples thing. But at the same time,
you guys are what you do for a living is
entertained on the floor. You were entertainers, and you're gonna
have to give it your all. You can't phone in
your performance and assume you're gonna win the Academy Award
for it. Like, you have to go out there show
the effort. Because the guy that paid to see you
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and the family that he is taking once or twice
a year maybe to go see you, he certainly put
in the effort to earn the money that made it
possible to take his family there. And then the least
you can do is care about that. The least you
can do is for that to actually feel like it matters.
And I think it is worth mentioning that the most
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interesting thing about your league in the last two years,
I would say, is a trade that many people think
might have been a conspiracy underneath, that sent Luka Doncic
to the Lakers. It's nothing that's happening on the basketball court.
Your trade deadline was far more interesting than your actual
regular season, your All Star Wars weekend, You're in season tournament,
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all of that kind of stuff. It's what took place
a couple of weeks ago, and it doesn't necessarily mean
a bunch of people are going to tune in to
watch the games. The NBA has a bit of a
problem now. Even if the All Star game format made
it a little bit more interesting last night, I don't
think that erases the larger problem that the perception of
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the league is. It's players just kind of shrug off
the sport that they play. Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
It popped in my head the first dunk contest that
Mac McClung won, Shack of course, was sitting courtside, and
you know how he films a lot of it, And
there was a little portion of it where they showed
Shack and he was talking to the people around him
and he was like he hungry.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
He was talking about Mac.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
McClung and he's stayed hungry, right like this is where
he eats is the dunk contest. But the problem is
a lot of players they haven't stayed hungry. The stars,
they haven't stayed hungry where it's just a should shrug
where they're showcasing the league. They don't look at it
that way. They look at it as like, oh my gosh,
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I have to do this. I'd rather have the free
time to go to Cabo or wherever I want to go.
They treat it like it's it's not showcasing the game
and showcasing the league. They treat it like it's this
stupid postgame interview that they'd just rather not do. They
treat it like the Greg Popovich like you know, in
game interview that he just detests, you know, and it
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comes across that way. It's just it's not good for
the league. It's not a good look whatsoever. Hey, we're
off and running. We've got Jason Martin here. I'm Priban No,
We're in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
coming up. How bad is this story gonna get? Exactly?
It keeps on getting worse. We'll have some details for you.
We're live from the Tireck dot Com studios here on
(15:49):
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Speaker 2 (15:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 3 (16:04):
He's Jason Martin, I'm Brian no and for Two Pros
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come to you live from the Tirack dot Com studios.
You know, I don't want to go completely off the
rails here, but uh Loraina playing a little come as
you are from Nirvana and uh Man that guitar part,
Je mart If you I know you're a music guy too, Man,
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but if you start thinking about the most recognizable guitar
parts of songs, like that's gotta be on the short list,
you know what I mean? Like that is such a
recognizable intro. Waight, I'm just thinking off the top of
my head. Some you have anything on yours, Like, I'll
think of Voodoo Child from Jimmy, you know, like it's
such a definitely iconic, recognizable crazy Train.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Slash probably slash and Welcome to the Uh yeah, come
to the Jungle or November Rain. But yeah, I think that.
I think that's right. And what's funny is you're mentioning
comes you are. But I would say smells like Teen
Spirits even more recognizable than that. So I think they
they claimed to maybe two of the most iconic or
just famous, well known riffs, especially of the modern era.
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But if you went back further, I'm trying to think now,
like what might really I think Voodoo Child's a really
good poll. Yeah, that's a that's definitely up there.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I think of walk by Pantera as a very or
Inner Sandman, Inner.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Sandman, like the Inner Salmon is definitely on that list.
No question. Yeah, can I ask you guys a question?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, we do have.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Uh, you were mentioning you talking about Nirvanah came back
with Nirvana and then Brian you mentioned you were watching
the SNL fiftieth Yeah, did you watch the concert special?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Before no? Yeah, so post.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Malone performed with the you know, remaining members of Nirvana.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Sure, and I thought it was actually pretty awesome. I'll
have to check that out. I heard about so confusing.
I didn't know there were two different nights. There was
a whole like concert thing night before.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Wow. Well, I mean, music has been such an important
factor in sn O it doesn't surprise me. I didn't
know about it either, But I imagine it's on It's on Peacock.
All that stuff's probably on Peacock, So I'm gonna be
able to go back and watch all of it. That's cool. No, yeah,
you like it, Coop? Was it good?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
I mean, like I I'm a fan of post Malone
as a person. I think he's really cool, but I'm
not the biggest fan of his music.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Okay, So I when I saw.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Oh, for sure, for sure, but it's just it's.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Just not my thing.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Sure, But then when so when I saw, you know,
post Malone stands in for Kurt Cobain.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And I'm like, oh, geez, what is this gonna be?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yea, And I watched it and he kills it like,
I mean totally kind of channels the vibe of Cobain.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
I liked it a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Wow, it was day was Groll part of it.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah, yep, very cool.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I'll have to check that out, man, I didn't know
it was a couple of different nights. What'd you think
of the fifty year thing last night? How much of
it did you watch?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Jason? I didn't see, Like I said, I think it's
see any of it yet. I'm gonna watch it all
on pot com. Yeah. Yeah, uh, just because I was
gonna have to watch it and snips and everything that
was going on last night, so I didn't get a
chance to see it yet, but I'm definitely planning on
indulging in it today or tomorrow when I get the
opportunity to. I mean, I grew up on us and
now I certainly have tuned out in the last handful
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of years. Yeah, And a lot of the a lot
of where they've gone is I think they've always been there,
but I think maybe my own feelings have changed regarding
some of the content that they want to go into.
But like, I still respect so much, and I have
friends in Imparov and friends that have you know, done
sketch comedy and all this kind of stuff, and so
I am always impressed by that. And there's just a
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different world did you see Saturday Night, the film the
movie that came out handful of months ago that was
sort of like it was Jason Reitman who had directed
Juno and Up in the Air and some of that stuff.
It was basically like the first the first ever SNL.
How they got it on air, and it was basically
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taking a season's worth or a couple of seasons worth
of incidents behind closed doors and pushing them all into
that one night and making it look like it was
the biggest disaster that had ever happened, and all these
prima donnas and Chevy Chase and John Belushi quitting multiple
times and all this stuff. But it was really good.
Like I enjoyed the film a lot. If you get
an opportunity, you should check it out. But I've always
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been fascinated by that world. The Live in New York
book that the guys that also wrote the Sports Center
book years ago. Live in New York's an excellent book
if you haven't read it, just if you're interested in
that world. It's I mean, it's basically it's a verbal account.
It's a uh, it's everybody that did it commenting on
it in this state, and it's really really good. So
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I imagine the fiftieth. I'm sure they showed out pretty
well for that. Last night, it was all right, this
is all right.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I give it a B minus maybe a C plus.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
What did they waste time on that? That felt like
they could have done other stuff?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I mean like it's just it's SNL, right, Like there
are some skits that are just hilarious, and there are
other skits where you're like, yeah, this is not gonna work,
and it's gonna go on for at least another five minutes,
you know what I mean, Like they'll just have that
feeling to it. So I don't know how many sketches
they did total. Some of them are really funny, some
were good, others just kind of dragged on and were
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a total wasted time.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Well it is, that's it. Yeah, it's just basically, whatever
the joke is, they're gonna repeat that joke for five
or six minutes, and if you don't like the first joke,
I hate to tell you, but wait for the next
segment or go do something else. That's right, That's pretty
much what it is.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
How about this?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
We go from SNL to news that just keeps getting worse.
I even know, and I know I heard your teas,
and even though I didn't know exactly where we're going
to have a feeling, I know where we're going here.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, I think you know it's Raven's kicker, Justin Tucker. Yes,
we now have seven more women accusing him of sexual misconduct. So, Jason,
this is a total of sixteen therapists now from eight
different spas that have made accusations against the kicker, And
I just I don't know what you say about it
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at this point. I look at it like this, Sometimes
we look at sports as something different than real.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Life, and it's not. It's real life.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Like, what would you think if you're the partner and
you your partner's like, oh no, nothing happened. Now that
they're making this up unequivocally false, you know, and now
we get seven more accusers. At what point are you
just like, yeah, pretty hard to buy, Greg, Even if
you want to believe, how in your right mind can
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you believe everybody is just making something up out of
thin air?
Speaker 4 (23:11):
How can you actually believe that? Well? Yeah, I know
you have to. You have to get yourself to a
point where you can understand why all of these different
women are coming out to say similar things with similar accounts,
and actually in some cases some really heinous stuff. I mean, look,
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this is kind of what happened with DeShawn. It started
and then it continued to snowball and get larger and larger,
and the more that comes it doesn't mean that. It
doesn't mean because we don't know for sure whether or
not anything happened. But I remember immediately when the first
stuff started coming out, I saw a couple of comments.
It was just like, yeah, make sure you have the
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same energy for Justin Tucker that you did for Deshaun.
Watched sure, and my reaction was this, like what you're saying,
but no one is defending this, Like this is going
to go down exactly the same way. Like we're all
on board here, man, Like if this guy, if this
guy did this, then he's going to get the same treatment,
except that he's not going to have a full guaranteed
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contract waiting for him at the end of it. So
you know that's the that's the part of it. But yeah,
your point about the partner is right, like eventually it
has to wear on you because that person, the one
that's being accused, has to almost has to prove. He
has to prove something that can't be proved. But what
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is it that all of these women have that Like
why are you going after the Ravens kicker? Like why
is that the target of some kind of you know,
right fall something or other? It does it? It? There's
there's a whole lot here and it keeps growing and
all of it looks bad. Yeah. The the part about.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Having the same energy, it's like, listen, the first thing
is we're we're talking quarterback and kicker. Okay, we just
start with that. It's not just a black white thing.
It's quarterback kicker. And now, granted this is arguably the
greatest kicker in the history of the NFL, I still
think it's ad infinitaria. I don't know why everybody says
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it's just like automatically justin Tucker. But in any event,
it's still a kicker. Like, what's gonna move the needle
more a quarterback who signed a five year, two hundred
and thirty million dollar, fully guaranteed contract, or is it
gonna be a kicker? You know, come on, it's not
the same thing, so you're not gonna have the same energy.
But as far as like how can we in our
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right minds believe that?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Absolutely, I think there are a ton of similarities. So
that aspect of it, like having the same approach or
the same thought process. Yeah, that makes sense because with
just Tucker, just like Deshaun Watson, this isn't a case
of he said, she said. This is a case of
he said, they said, and they is growing. We're up
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to sixteen therapists in the Justin Tucker situation, so around
twenty five or so with DeShawn So yeah, like there
are aspects of it where they're similar, but like to act,
like quarterbacks and kickers are on the same level.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Are you crazy? Right now?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
What do you think is gonna move the needle more
in the off season? Is it a quarterback landing on
a new team or is it a kicker landing on
a new team? Like, come on, let's be realistic about this.
I mean, yeah, how big of a story it's gonna be?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean it's like this, like that
dude will just disappear and never kick again. Like that's
that's the difference. Like Deshaun Watson because of his talent
level and because of what he does for a living,
meaning playing quarterback. To your point, you're gonna try to
turn yourself into knots to make that work, not for
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a kicker. And I will ask this. I was just
thinking about this, and maybe there's nothing to this. Justin
Tucker had a terrible year. He did, like by his standards,
he was awful this past year, but really by anybody's standards,
he was just that he wasn't reliable. All of a sudden,
there were actually questions about you guys okay to kickfield
goals in the playoffs based on how Justin Tucker's kicking.
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Is there any possibility that some of this stuff was
already behind closed doors he knew about some of this,
or somebody on his team. I don't mean the Ravens,
I mean I guess I assume as a legal team
or whoever's working with him, was this already dogging them
during the season, Like at the very least, I think
it's fair to ask the question because this is a
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dude who never missed ever, and then he started missing constantly,
and then within a few weeks the season, we start
learning about all sorts of inappropriate conduct allegations that are
coming out against him. May have one may have nothing
to do with the other. But it just makes me
wonder if one does have something to do with the other. Yeah,
very well, could very well.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
It's is it possible that Justin Tucker got off to
a bad start. He is a little bit older, maybe
there was some sort of injury that he was, you know,
dealing with, and then he gets in his own head.
We've seen this with many kickers where they're just you know,
their confidence is shaken and it just snowballs. I could
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see that too, But to your point, yeah, absolutely could
have had something to do with it. But we have,
Like we just saw Mahomes be drunk in the entire
first half of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I don't know who that was.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That was some Mahomes impostor on the field wearing number fifteen.
That wasn't the Mahomes I know. So it can happen,
but it's weird that it happened as repeatedly as it
did for Justin Tucker because that guy was unbelievable until
the twenty twenty four season. It was brutal man. He
was one of the worst kickers in the league. It
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was shocking to watch. So, yeah, maybe they'll off the
field stuff had something to do with it, but hard
to say for sure. How about college hoops this weekend,
J Martin, what caught your attention to most was good stuff? Man,
it was really good. Auburn's smacked around Alabama.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
It was excellent. Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
And you had Alabama didn't lead throughout the entire game.
How about that Alabama's been so so good, especially on
their home floor. Didn't even have the lead, you know,
like a ten to nine lead to nothing. They didn't
lead at all, and they shot. Alabama did five for
twenty six from three point range. They're gonna be hard
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to win in college hoops if you're doing that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yes, you're right. I mean at the half they were
down nine and then they lost by nine, Like it
looked that. It's cool that you had a one to
two matchup between Auburn and Alabama that was in a
different sport that actually had people's attention, that that mattered
on Saturday, and of course both of them are going
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to be heard from in the NCAA tournament. But you
just look at Auburn again, it's just, man, Auburn's really
good and they're one of those teams that like when
they're on, you start to wonder how you're supposed to
beat them exactly, But yeah, five for twenty six not
gonna get it done. Lamenting all the three point woes
in the NBA. Those become unwatchable games. At the very least,
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when that happens in college, you know who's gonna win
and who's gonna lose five to twenty six under twenty percent. Yeah,
and at least it wasn't five for forty six, Like
it wasn't the Hornets Bulls game, oh Man December where
they went twenty one of ninety four or whatever it was.
Can you imagine like buying tickets to that game, and
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so this is the one game you get to go
see or you don't get to go to a whole
lot of games, and you pick Bulls or you're gonna
take the Bulls Hornets. Probably gonna be a low ticket game.
Maybe you get get a piece of merchandise as supposed
to happen to pay out to see a star. And
you go there and you see, like what I did
when I was eight years old, my dad was coaching
the team, Like I can go out there and shoot
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twenty of ninety four, like I can grab a group
of guys, probably in my neighborhood right now, and we
could do something approaching that, maybe stop shooting threes. Like
I get what the analytics says, but you do have
to make some of them for those analytics to be
proven right totally, Like you can you can do. The
math doesn't work if you're not making any of the shots.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, that's the that's the prerequisite is Hey, we got
to make some of these though, you know, like I
get it, get to the free throw line, layups, threes,
you gotta make some of your threes, man, And uh yeah,
it's uh, it's just this might be a ridiculous question,
but I think it's a legitimate one because you watch
Auburn do what they did against Alabama and they obviously
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the better team. But honest question, do you feel better
going forward if you're Auburn or if you're Alabama, Because
if you're Bama, you could look at this and be like,
I'm betting heavily that we don't wait, don't do this again.
We're not five for twenty six consistently going forward, We're
still a good three point shooting team. And Auburn on
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the other side, Jeni Broome tweaked his ankle and this
could be a lingering thing. So it's just one game,
and of course you feel better in the moment if
you're Auburn than Alabama, But going forward, I don't know
that Auburn is automatically in a better spot, a better
position to do damage come March than Alabama is. You know, like,
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I think that's legitimate when you start looking forward instead
of just keeping it to Saturday in the weekend.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You know, yeah, I mean I think that's right. And
you know, the the both beauty and madness of college
basketball is created by the fact that once you do
get to March, if you have one of those days,
you're gonna get beat. Almost every time, you're gonna get beat,
and you may get beat by someone that's far lesser
in terms of an on paper opponent. It's not four
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out of seven, where it's much more difficult to actually
win if you are kind of the underneath team, because
even one bad performance, they can still come back. You
just mentioned it, right, Alabama can look at this and
feel good about it and say, yeah, well this is
not gonna happen again. Well, it better not. That's that's
the thing because it's a one and done league, which
which is one of the reasons why it is so
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much fun to watch come March. But it's also infuriating
because so many times you don't feel like maybe all
the teams that should have been there got there. But
that's why it is relentlessly watchable. But you hope if
you are going to have a game like this, you
have it on February the fifteenth, yeah, as opposed to
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March the twenty seventh or something like that. So I
think you're right. I think that you hope you got
the stinker out of the way. Remember Jalen Hurt said
a few years ago, flush it after a bad performance, Like,
let's just flush that one and move on, And that's
what you You have to be able to do that.
It's just, yeah, that was a bad one. Really wanted
to beat our rival. But any endgame, it's not gonna
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matter that much. There's a tournament to come, and then
there's an NCAA tournament following the conference tournament. Let's worry
about those and just remember we got to show up
every night or we're gonna get beat and knocked out
of this thing and not finish our goals. I will
say this too, Jason.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You talk about like bad outside shooting and the Hornets
Bulls game, which was an eye sore. This is where
gambling can be your friend. Okay, if you're on the under,
it's like the most majestic thing you've ever seen before.
You know, they're just clanging threes left and right. I
was at you would love this. As a Broncos guy.
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I was at the Colts Broncos game a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
I was on the under.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
And it was like, you know that twelve six game
or whatever, it even got to overtime, it.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Had no chance of going on a game it was.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
It was beautiful, man, Like, I loved all of that
sloppy play just because I was on the unders. So
that's what I encourage, especially if you're at the game.
It know, if if it gets off to a rocky start,
you're like, oh my gosh, this is rough. Think about
the end game under, Just think about it might change
how the game the.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Game looks in your eyes going forward. Man, that's an
interesting thought. You have to uh okay, all right, yeah,
just bust out the app there, Jason. All right, under,
if you got to create if you have to create
a reason for something to become watchable. Maybe do something else,
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that's the other option.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, that's true, but if you're at the game, you're
probably gonna stick it out. You know that's fair, that's
rue that I paid two hundred plus for these tickets.
I'm gonna at least see fourth quarter, I stated to
the bitter end. But you know, if you're sticking it out,
maybe make some cash. It's gonna it's gonna change your
perception of that game, all right. He's Jason Martin. I'm
Brian Know. We're in for two Pros and a Cup
(35:52):
of Joe coming up. Two strongs, two strong stances by
the same guy. Uh, just one of them makes sense?
Well that into that. We're live from the Tirack dot
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Speaker 2 (36:04):
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Speaker 4 (36:15):
He's Jason Martin. I'm Probalyan Know.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
We're in for two Pros and a Cup of Joe
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Sports Radio. Okay, so two strong stances by the same guy.
That would be Draymond Green.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think only one of these stances makes sense. So
the two stances. One, Draymond Green said that the NBA
game right now is boring. There's no substance to it.
And I'll get you his full quote here in a second.
And his other stance is, uh, Warrior's gonna win a
ring this year. They're gonna win the chip. They got
Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Look out, here's what Draymond had to say on TNT
about the Warriors' chances of winning it all.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
We're going to win the championship.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Say that one more time so that everybody hear you
my ear piece.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Because they added Jimmy Bullert at third. So I'm sorry.
I said, I think we're gonna win a championship, and
I lie, we are going to win the chump Jason, Dude. Nope,
come on man, Nope. I mean I know that you're
doing the All Star weekend in the Bay like, I
(37:23):
get it, and you're not gonna go out there and
say we're gonna lose. But nobody's buying that, buddy.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
No, it's a best of seven series. You know you
gotta win four of them. You're gonna go against the
team as deep as Okay, see that's.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
My I mean, that's my squad, like come on as
well known and for whatever reason, and I love it.
I picked a team years ago that uh now is
proving me they actually care in the regular season. Yeah,
they're out there playing hard and shake Gilus. Alexander is
bawling out and he's playing hard in the All Star Game.
(37:58):
But they don't look like one of those teams is
just gonna walk into the playoffs and get beat because
nobody else was trying during a regular season. But yeah,
like Steph is really good Draymond, and you say things
like the thing he said about the boring game. He
also said in that in that comedy. It's like, yo,
you know, if there are teams that you know you
should get a you should get a favorable whistle. That's
the way it used to be. You get a favorable
(38:18):
whistle if you won a championships. Like, dude, you're not
gonna get favorable whistles. Like the jury is not out
on you. We know, like you're gonna get the Rashii
Wallace treatment. But worse, like, like way worse. At this point,
they're not going to not call things because you're a star,
because you've won championships, because you happen to play alongside
(38:39):
Hall of famers. It's probably gonna put you in the
Hall of Fame because you played alongside Hall of famers. Like, yeah,
Draymond says a lot of things, and you want to
sound good in front of your home crowd, but I mean,
we got to be realistic here. The Warriors are not
gonna win the championship this year. They're not going to
be anywhere near the champimpionship this year.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
No, there's if they play Okac, there's a better chance
they get swept then move on. That's just that's how
good Okac is. And you look at the Warriors like
literal rotation and you're like Santo's post, like who the
hell are these guys? I watched the NBA every day
and there are dudes in their rotation room, Like where
(39:22):
do they find these guys? Like they used to have depth.
They don't have depth. You have to have that to
win it all in the NBA. It's a grind. The
other part of what Draymond was saying about the league
and just the quality of the game. He was talking
about a recent game facing Lebron James right. He faced
Lebron recently, and he mentioned that he was like, every
(39:43):
possession is some type of chess move. You don't get
that today in the NBA often you don't just get
that on a regular basis. It's just who can run faster,
who can hit more threes. It's no substance. I think
it's very boring. What do you think of when you
hear Draymond say those things, Jason.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
I think you've been watching your own team for the
last ten years. But the thing about it is the
Warriors are not boring. One thing. The three point thing.
I'm I'm one hundred percent in favor of. I already
said I've gone full curmudgeon. I'm forty six going on
ninety six because i want to see the three point
line completely abolished from basketball because analytics. But one thing
(40:22):
that it wasn't Draymond. I think it was Damian Lillard
who was commenting on something similar. He said, Yeah, Now
they basically say, look, you either lay the ball up
or you take a three. They basically demand that you
not shoot mid range. Jumpers anymore. Yeah. In the IPA, yeah,
if you want to it, says. Steph has come out
on podcasts and said, yeah, they blame me for changing
(40:43):
the games, like I didn't tell them to shoot that.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Yeah, no doubt
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