July 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Fitz & Geoff Schwartz fill in for the guys and talk about the viral couple that got caught having an affair at a Coldplay concert, the Steelers making T.J. Watt the highest paid non-QB in the NFL, how that will affect contracts for Micah Parsons and others, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
You know it's funny.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
In the NBA, they spend all of their time covering
the sport, all of us talking about drama. The stories
are better than the actual product on the field, and
that's what we fall in love with. Like we fall
in love with the possibility that somebody's gonna come in
and do something credible, if there's going to be some
big event, and when we get to the.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Actual games, it's a letdown.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
What if maybe this year we're doing the same thing
in the NFL with one of the large, most prominent
franchises in.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The entire league. What if this year we are.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Absolutely enamored with the soap opera that's going to be
the Pittsburgh Steelers. But what if it's all for nothing
because the Steelers aren't gonna be worth it. It's two
pros and a cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Jason fitz Man. How are we
feeling this morning?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It is early in the morning.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
You're getting just a whole bountiful Like I had an
energy drink this morning. Those are rare for me now,
like I'm gonna be on one all day.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
How are we feeling?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Brother? I am fantastic. Good to work with you. I look,
I know them do better than the couple that was
caught at the Coldplay concerts snuckling up to each other
where they shouldn't have been. So if your day is
going back, just remember it's not as bad as their
day is going. And so I cannot know that story. No,
it's not a sports story, but it is capture the
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Internet and it's even a fake apology I think happening
right now with the CEO of Astronomer whos getting caught
that We've got the open on right now. It's it's
nice as the East Coaster to wake up and have
live sports on, which is a rarity. Mostly it's just
this when the open is on or even sometimes there's
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you know there's a you know, there's another event. The
Olympics is one of them where it might be on
like in the morning, right, very rare for us on
the on the East coast, So a lot to get
to in the NFL. Man, look, Camp Chargers went to
camp yesterday. We have like actual camp footage yesterday, so
a lot to get into.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, it's uh, it's gonna be a fun morning.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Uh, just don't take your side piece to a concert
that's just a repeat.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Soon we're gonna have throughout the year.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It is quite remarkable, right, Like I know, they don't
expect to be on the JumboTron, Like I get that.
But it was a comp It's not like it was
a company thing. Like they weren't by themselves. So the
people obviously people knew like this is like what they
they just they're doing on the side. I guess I
don't know. I no, no, certain, not for me tell
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you that.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, when I was when I was touring, I have
a friend that for years was it was a drummer.
He played for a ton of huge acts and he
used to always walk off the bus, and he his
phrase used to always be anytime you were out there,
He's like, man, there's a difference between you know, hot
and half of everything you own hot. And then he
said the follow up, lilying to that, was always there's
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an even bigger difference to half of everything you own
and every other weekend hot. Like that is just once
you have kids, that that changes everything. That did not
seem to deter any of them, as the as the
CEOs out here in the streets with his HR director
and it's just a lot of collateral damage. I keep
looking at all of it thinking, man, like, how do
you explain what hey, honey, like she gets on the
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internet at all and all of a sudden you're like, hey,
we should probably have a conversation like that is just now.
I cannot imagine how.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
My wife has a saying and again we are we
are very happily marriage. This is not at all replies
to us. But you know, she has a saying. It
says it's cheaper to keep her, you know, like it
sometimes you know it's just it's just it's just cheap.
It's just cheaper to do it. And it might not
be in this situation. But in the HR thing is
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even better, right that the HR director is the one
that he's snuggling up with, you know. And obviously in
most companies, and my I am my own companies, I
don't have an HR director, but I know how they operate,
and most of the time, right, they operate and they're
supposed to to avoid these sort of situations, right, that's
that's that's their job is to make sure that people
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are complying with human resources and for her to be
the one caught doing this as well as another fun
layer to it. But yeah, man, I've watched a video
so many times. I know people have said that if
they didn't react that way, nobody would have paid attention
to it. But how they're supposed to reac They're they're
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having a fair and they caught on camera at a concert,
they're going to react in that way.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, I mean there is this this portion for me too.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I you should know this about me. But I'm not
a conspiracy theorist at all. Like I don't waste my
time with.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I don't I don't eat. I'm a why person. I
need to know why, why something's happening. I'm not a
I'm with you, very little conspiracies, I believe.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, I'm one of those guys that like, if we
didn't land on the moon, it doesn't change my Friday.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So I don't really care.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But I I did look at this and say, the
odds that you're in a suite and the camera people
are going to find you in a stadium concert for
Coldplay and you know you're gonna be a you know
this this CEO of a billion dollar company, Like, that's
just the odds on that were so crazy. I just
there's a part of me that's like, did somebody in
cold Place camp know, like, were they out of an
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affair of a prominent person? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
If you listen to that. I think that if you
listen to the audio, there's that like you can hear
them say like, oh, there's just a couple like like, oh,
look at this couple, Like I think they had no idea.
I think I think they had no idea and uh
and they just they just had the worst luck ever
than this situation. That's is that simple. By the way,
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you know, if again, if you're if you're stuggling, good
good good tip for you guys out there. If you're
snuggling in in front of forty thousand people and a concert.
I kind of feel like you deserved to get caught
at that point.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
One hundred percent. And look, I think, but we'll get to.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
The Steelers in a second.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Everybody calmed down.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
He did make an official apology last night. But what
I think was funny about it is people when they apologize,
just need to learn less. Is more like there's just
this level because the apology started out with you. I
want to acknowledge the moment that's been circulating online and
the disappointment it caused. What's what was supposed to be
not of music and enjoy turned into a deeply personal
mistake playing out in a very public stage when it
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sincerely apologize to my wife, my family, and the team
and astronomer. You deserve better for me as a partner,
father and a leader. That's great, he's doing great there
so far.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Just shut up.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
You did it and and then all of a sudden,
I also want to express how troubling it is that
what should have been a private moment it became public
without my consent.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I respect artists.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And entertainers, but I hope we can all think more
deeply about the impact of turning someone else's life into
a spectacle.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Okay, so is that I'm under the impression that is
a fake apology, but I I really own that. I
think I think it's I think that's the thing. I
think it's because the last part of it made it
seem like it's not real, Like who why would you
include the part about oh I got got I I
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think I I And also to the reading about this
as well. It says here that when when when the
kiss came landed on them, the pair of media moved
out of the frame and tried to hide Coldplay frontman
Chris Martin joke either having an affair. They're just very shy,
so like it was not set up to me that way.
(08:09):
I think the apology is is not real. But make sure,
like I.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Mean, look, and we've gotten to this spot now where
who knows.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I don't know how you trust anything anymore except for
the video itself. You know that one. He can't he
can't say anybody faked it. But I don't know how
you trust anything you read anymore. So you know the
number of every time you got to like quadruple check
everything that ever gets posted and there was a fake
apology or fake statement early.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
But then this though, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
The part about him blaming the concerts for your affair.
That bro, bro, come on, man, just own it. Just
own it. His wife, by the way, supposedly already changed
her last name on Facebook. So I would imagine that
it's not it's not. It's not good, buddy, all that's
not good. But cold Play, you lost your relationship because
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you were a cold Play concert. That's it's not great.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I just always think of Eddie Murphy rolls.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Like half Eddie, Eddie, I want half.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I mean, she's just she's the day taking it to
the bank. I mean that is Oh yeah, I mean
that is. And it's his own damn fault. By the way,
there's no doubt about it. I don't want to We're
not going to talk about the affair all morning, just
most of the morning.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Have you ever, I mean, you've got enough prominent friends.
Have you ever had it, like.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Without naming any names, you ever like you ever have
a prominent friend that kind of put themselves?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I mean no, but but I'll tell you a fine
so Andy Reid, who's fantastic. Of course, I played one
season with him. My brother played five of the Chiefs
and he was one thing that Andy is he he's
just very aware. I mean he's played a lot, he's
coached a lot of football, you know. And before I
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think it was BEFO week one of the first year
he was in Kansas City, he told us, you know,
his thing is always has like short team meetings, which
are great, it's fantastic, it's it's awesome, but very very short.
But we had a little longer one before the season start,
just a couple of things before week one, and one
of the things he said to us was was, Okay, guys,
handle your tickets. So we get at certain number of
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tickets and we have to give the request of the
number of tickets to the ticket person by like Wednesday
of game week, right, And he always just say, hey, guys,
handle your tickets early in the week and make sure
if you have any baby mamas or you're having an affair,
that the wives don't sit with the girlfriends. So we said,
he said, he told he told that to us, and
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everyone was like, was giggling, like, of course, but I guess,
and everyone asked around. I guess there's been issues on
former teams he was on where wives and girlfriends would
sit together at games, which just seems like very avoidable,
avoidable bad time. You know, like, what is a player
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putting your wife and your girlfriend in the same area.
That is dumb. That is dumb. So that does happen.
I didn't think it happened, but it does happen. Players
will put themselves in that situation with their significant other
end there and they're laid there having the.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Affair with I certainly had a musician buddy that I
won't throw into the bus that his wife and kids
were at a show when two of his different side
pieces decided to show up to the same same show.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He didn't have a very good show. I'm just gonna say,
like you just eventually, man, everybody gets you gets got
Like you.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Saw both of them like sitting there together.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
A tour manager got the heads up that was like, hey,
we got a problem. So yeah, he was the whole
time he was on stage. You could see him palpably sweating.
It was a it was I mean, I'm laughing and
I shouldn't be laughing because I know.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was a really tough day for a lot of people.
But at the same.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Time I look at them like man, eventually you get
gott No matter how smart you think you are, eventually
it all catches up to you. He's Jeff Swartz. I'm
Jason fitzworre in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
We got a lot to get into this morning. I
started off by saying it. I'll say it again because
we'll get into it in just a minute. Here the
Pittsburgh Steelers are making news. The question is is that
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all they're gonna do this season. We'll break it down
after a quick break. He's Jeff Swartz. I'm Jason Fitzen
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Speaker 4 (13:17):
DJ Want went out and got himself paid, no doubt
about it. And the Pittsburgh Steelers are gonna be a
talking point. The question is, are they actually gonna be
a great football team?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
What is all of this for? I'm not sure we
actually know the answer.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
He's Jeff Schwartz on Jason Fittswor hanging out on Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. Jeff, Like,
the funny thing is, I've been saying this, I feel
like for a couple of months, because all we do
is keep talking about Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers and
Aaron Rodgers, and like there's an unavoidable thing here right
the Steelers are gonna be this massive talking point all year.
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And just like as we started the show today, I said,
like the NBA has built a whole empire on talking
points that are more meaningful than the game.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Half the time.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And I feel like that's what looking at like at
some point, Great, you get TJ. Watt back on a
mega deal, it needed to happen. Great you go out
and sign Aaron Rodgers, you had to have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
All of these things make sense. But I guess I
struggle to figure out how.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
All of these things make Pittsburgh any bet better than
the third best team in their own division. And why
are we talking about this much hype over a team
that's probably going to be the third best team in
its own division.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well, it's, first of all, it's Pittsburgh, right, So hype
is always going to be there. But I think you're
I think the thing that for me, you know, it's
very important as a team to understand two things, right.
You want to build in the short term and long
term right, and those sometimes, you know, conflict with each other.
And I want to see your plan right. And so
the other's plan very clearly is we're going all in
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for this season. It's a veteran group. They've signed older players,
they traded for older players. They built their roster around
Aaron Rodgers and the defense and Watt and Hayward and
Ramsey right, and they traded for DK. It's it's all veteran. Okay,
And this is the Pittsburgh Steelers, right, the super Bowl
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or bust for them, And I think they've calculated incorrectly
that they are chasing a short term fix, which is
we're Pittsburgh. We always win nine or ten games, We're
always competitive. Which are which are which are good qualities
to have? I'm sure a lot of fan bases would
love your Raiders fan correct me if I'm wrong there, Like,
I'm sure you would love to have Pittsburgh, Okay, I
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I think you would love as a Raiders fan to
have that stability. But the stability in Pittsburgh is feels
like to me the worst place to be in the NFL,
which is not good enough to win a super Bowl,
not bad enough to draft young quarterback. And Pittsburgh's plan
to me, feels very foolish. You're going all in older players,
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which almost never works in the NFL. They break down,
they get hurt. That's the unfortunate part about the league, right,
one hundred percent injury rate. The older you are, the
more you get hurt, and the harder it's to come
back from that injury. They have almost no sort of
young core to build around and They've done that purposely, right,
because they want to try to win a super Bowl.
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Now they're not winning super Bowl. That's that's the miscalculation.
Their calculation is we're gonna get the get in the
postseason and then make it happen. Look at the look
at your division, look at the rest of the league.
You're not better than Buffalo, Baltimore, the Chiefs. You're not
better than parbat of the Chargers and Broncos. You're just
not better than a lot of the teams in you know,
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in your own conference. And it's all in for nothing.
And the next year you're gonna sit around and go, well,
we're okay, we're a year older. Now we're where's our
young core of our team, our base of our roster.
We don't have a quarterback again. Now we get draft
one of course, and they've been more aggressive in the
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draft than previous regimes. Is Omar Khan got a contract extension.
But they don't have a core back in the future.
They they've yet to address that. They tried with Picket.
They drafted the old quarterback in the first round that year,
very telling on the talent of that draft. Now this
draft should be it should be more quarterback friendly. I
just don't like and don't think the way they're building
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their roster is a successful process, and I think it'll
end up with the same place they're always in, which again,
I mean, is that what you want? Is that really
where you want to be as a franchise.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
The other hard part about it is what does all
of this do for the noise around Tomlin? And you know,
maybe the organization doesn't listen to noise, Maybe none of
it matters. Maybe all of us, instead of sitting in
front of microphones overblow it every single year.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
That's all possible.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
There is this part of me that man, where there's smoke,
there's fire, and every year just gets louder and louder.
And the only thing that really quells that noise are
playoff wins. And so I'm looking at this team and
you know, I hate ranking things. I think ranking trying
to come up with the ranking is so subjective and impossible.
I like to just put things instead on shelves. Like
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when you walk into a bar, you're like, hey, I
want top shelf vodka. They're on a shelf together. Then
the well vodka is all on a shelf, Like you
understand where these things fall. So to me, if you're
gonna go all in, it's because you are a top
shelf team that is sitting on the same shelf as the.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Leader of the lead in your conference.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
To your point, the Buffalo is the Kansas City's the
Baltimore's of the world. They're sitting on a completely different
shelf than where the Steelers are.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
To me, I don't think that they even belong in
that same conversation. They're on the next.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Shelf down, and that's a good shelf, like that's that's fine.
But when you go this all in, and I think
the result is more than likely going to be either
the same as it's.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Been or maybe even a little worse.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
When all of that comes together, then we're gonna be
sitting here in February and everybody's gonna say.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Oh, it's just time for Tomlin to move on.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And then you turn around and think, Okay, now you're
resetting the entire organization because you went wrong on a
fool's goal plan to try and go all in on
a year where all in doesn't get you good enough.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Correct, And that's where the long term thinking has to happen. Right,
It's hard to thread a needle between here's our short
term plan, here's our long term vision. Their long term
vision doesn't seem to be there. The long term vision
is we're going year by year, which, again, for an
organization like Pittsburgh and the success they've had over the years,
it's very tough to sell your fans on like, hey, guys,
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we're gonna kind of have a year when we pull
back a little bit to get better moving forward. You can,
you can still have a pullback year and be a
little bit competitive and give your fans hope. But the
issue again is again, what is there. What's their plan
next year? I don't know they're playing this year, so
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to try to win obviously, okay, I mean sure, we
all try to do that, but it doesn't mean it's
gonna happen and we all agree on that. I could
give you all the franchises at the top of the
NFL and tell you their plan for the next few
years all revolves around the quarterback. They have the pictures.
They don't have a quarterback for the future. Rogers is
Rogers is not as bad who want him to be.
It's also not what he was, you know, three or
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four years ago. So the best to get from Rogers,
I think is just average, and maybe average is good
enough to get you to the postseason with the with
the roster you have. But I just there are long
term plans non existent, and I think for a team
of like like Pittsburgh, the best teams in the NFL
both are done at the same time long term. Right,
we think about the long term and the short term,
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and Pittsburgh is so short sighted right now the way
they're they're bode their roster.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
I also think to your point when you mentioned a
step back can result in hope, right, Hope in the
NFL comes in the form of a young quarterback. I
just when you have a guy that's young that you
think is going to be the difference in your franchise,
you can even as a fan base, you can sort
of handle terrible years. Like Buffalo had a couple of
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weird years in the beginning with Josh Allen. It was
fine because they had Josh Allen. They didn't work at it,
like I don't think Bengals fans are sitting here panicking
the way frankly they should be sometimes at how much
Joe Burrow's being wasted. But that's okay, because they got
Joe Burrow right Like, even if you're a Titans fan
right now and your team has been an abject disaster
and forgotten in the car in the process.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Of the NFL, you got cam Ward. Now you got
every like.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So it's hard to sell hope in what even could
be a step back here if you're a team that's
always nine and eight or ten and seven and you
still don't have a long term answer at the quarterback
and you don't really at that position, and you don't
really have a clear path to how you're going to
get better than Baltimore. And that's like when you're just
constantly looking at the Ravens and Lamar and saying, well,
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they are they're better today, and they're set up to
be better for a minute, and that organization has something
that this organization doesn't have because they have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
They know they can bank on for the next ten years.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It's just it's a really weird spot for the Steelers
to be in. And because of who the Steelers are
and who the job that Mike Tomlin has done, we
just expect that they'll be able to make chicken salad
out of you know what, and I I just don't
know long term that that does. Eventually everybody gets exhausted
with chicken salad.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Well we I mean to be fair, we know what
it's gonna be like long term, it's not gonna be
good unless look, we can eat our words. Obviously, if
they go out and get a quarterback in this next class,
it's it's it's it's shaping up to be a huge
quarterback class, just based off of mock drafts and look
around college football, so they can easily get you know,
put themselves in a situation to draft at eighteen, like
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they always do, end up with a good quarterback. I
mean again, it's those are things that are all possible.
But in all my words, obviously, if that happens, But again,
what do you what are you building around though? Who
are the pieces? Dk Metcalf is interesting because I've asked
everyone this when we talk about DK Metcalf, what what
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is DK's best moment as a as a wide receiver?
Do you do you you watch a ton of football?
What's the top of my head? I don't, I don't.
I meant, well, the big moment is when he caught
from behind. Right wise, he is a fine wide receiver.
He's made one I think was All Pro Team, Pro
Bowl Team in two thousand in the COVID year. Otherwise
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he's just been like, okay, like he's he gets a
thousand yards every other season. He's only had a thousand
yards and three of us six seasons, it's not he's not.
Is that who you're building around? Offensively? Yeah, the offensive line,
you know, an offensive line nerd like myself was good.
It's a it's a good young offensive line, like like
there's some real talent there. But I mean that paratly
doesn't excite Steelers fans. But where's it like after the
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season and let's say the old guys are just done right,
like Cam Hayward probably is last season. You know, Slighs
near the end, Ramsey, who are the young even Patrick
Queen is getting older? Who are the young guys you're
building around? If you're Pittsburgh, they're kind of just not there.
So you're going all in on this season when you're
not gonna win a championship and then you don't really
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have young guys to backfill you, you know, like you've
sort of you you're going all in this window without
thinking about the future. In my opinion at all, and
it's really going to cost them.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Jason Fitzworn on two Pros to
a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. I want
your kind of mindset on this. As a former player
and somebody that's around the league so much, what are
you supposed to do? And this is a philosophical question.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I've had it with Buck Rising at a couple of times
on Fox Sports too. But like t J.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Watt needed to get to paid, and there's no doubt
about it. Like you have a great player, you reward
a great player. But this is the same conversation in
particularly when we look at Russiers like Miles Garrett getting
paid isn't really going to result and wins for Cleveland
they suck, They always suck, and and you know, at
some point that doesn't mean you don't sign resign a.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Great players like you mentioned. I'm a Raiders fan.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I'm watching Max Crosby basically, you know, just waste his
career not winning any football games in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And of course Vegas needs to pay Max.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Crosby because you're not gonna find another Max Crosby in
the draft, but also not winning a lot of games
with the Max Crosby, He's like, how do you find
the line between you know, paying the guys that you
have in building for the future all at once when
when you're stuck wherever you are, whether it's in the sea,
is sucker in the sea and mediocrity.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah, it's a fair question. So you know a few
reasons why you sign these players, right, And Crosby I
think is a really good example for this because I
think Pittsburgh has sort of more and we know they
have more veteran kind of I think leaders than the
Raiders do at the moment. But is you a need
to have someone in the building who is the culture
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tone center, right, who everyone respects and who everyone looks
up to, right, And it's worth and you want the
production with that as well, and Crosby's giving you that production,
So its TJ. Well, you need that in the building.
You just have to have that veteran and you pay
for that guy. And I think you pay more for
guys who you who you are homegrown, who have you drafted,
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you've developed that bleed your colors, right, So for Maxcart's
be a great example, like you to me, you need
you need those guys on your roster and you try
to build around them as you get going. The Steelers
arguing for them is that they sort of have Cam
Hayward right, like they don't need maybe a second person
for that. But at those positions, those impact positions, pass rusher,
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off the tackle, now, wide receiver, I think, cornerback, you
need dudes there to play. So even if you think
this is an overpay, and it might be, it's only
a three year deal, it's probably only a two year deal,
quite honestly. So you need those guys in the locker room.
You need guys that the players can look up to,
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that players look and say, this is the way to
prepare and to win and and and to and also
sometimes when you've been through the hard struggles as a
player on a bad team and you become good like that,
having that perspective can help other players right as well.
So you have to do it as you'll so to
The thing I think is important for the health of
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just your roster building is right now that people are
questioning the Cowboys, what is Michael Well, you're not paying
Macha Parsons, Like, what are you doing. If you're a
player on that roster who's up for a deal, you're like,
what why don't we pay Michael Park? Like do I
want to be here if we're not going to pay
that guy? Like are they going to pay me? What's
happening right now? And when you take care of your superstars,
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then the players that are young that they look at
and say, hey, man, you know, I kind of want
to stay here, and maybe it'll take a little bit
less because I want to stay and we're building something here.
Free agents look at you and think, oh, well, well
they pay their superstars, they'll probably pay me too if
I do well there. Like, like, all those things matter.
When you build a roster. You want people to want
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to come there. You want to be a place that
that develops players and pays those guys. Those end up
being often the core of winning teams. And then you
want the locker room. You want, you know, to have
that guy in the locker room as well. So I
get what all these deals happen. It makes good roster
building sense for them to happen.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
You mentioned Michael Parsons, and that's the next portion of
this that's really.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't know if you saw this, but Parsons actually
did an interview with the Undertaker. I didn't know the
Undertaker was out here doing like on form interviews with
NFL players that were deep and meaningful, but he was.
He was out here talking to Mike about getting paid.
And what was stunning to me is Jeff like, Okay, look,
we all know that the Cowboys seemed to do business
the wrong way. It always gets done, so like, I'm
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done sitting here saying, well, they're not going to be
Like my god, I was on radio, you know when
everybody said that Zeke wasn't going to get a long
term deal. That's how many years we've been doing this
with the Cowboys. They always signed people, they just signed
people late. They're the anti Eagles and that process. But
it was pretty stunning to me because Michaeh flat out
admitted that his people went to the Cowboys and wanted
to do a deal a year ago, and the Cowboys
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basically weren't interested. They had other priorities to handle. And
so I look at all this, I'm like, man, all
that happens every single time that somebody else gets paid
is that the value drives up and so the Cowboys
continue to sit here and let Parsons sort.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Of dangle in the wind, and they'll get it done.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
But it's just what every time we sit here and
talk about why the Cowboys aren't who the Cowboys should be.
I think about moments like this when you've got a
superstar player sitting there with a former ww WE superstar
talking openly about the fact that there are too many
interferences in trying to get.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Business done and he just wants to get paid and
keep doing his job.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
With the Cowboys. It just gets so much more expensive
every time someone gets someone gets a contract for Parsons,
and you you got to get these deals done before
it gets too expensive. And again you have a player
like Parsons, a homegrown player you've drafted who's a game wrecker.
I mean, I mean, they should have paid him the
second they had the opportunity to pay him. And look,
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maybe there's a hole up there. We don't know what
happens in the locker. We don't know what happens behind
the scenes. Maybe he's a bad locker guy, maybe he's
a bad leadership guy. We don't know these things. I'm
just speculating on why he would be signed. But every
deal it's I mean, he could have they could have
gone him for for thirty five thirty three year, So
now they're gonna have to pay forty one forty two years.
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I mean there's worth it, obviously, it's what the next
contract up is. But the Cowboys, maybe they've realized that
we're not as good as we think we are, and
we want to trade him for two first round picks
and rebuild. I mean that's certainly a possibility here, but
dracking their feet has cost them a lot of.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Money, and that much. Look, I don't care about Jerry's money.
I don't care about any owner. I want every owner
to just get spent to the point that they're poor,
Like they all have too much money. It's for we all,
I will say this though, Like it's it's the eventual inability.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
To build the roster the way you want to build it.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
And it's the eventual inability to be as flexible as
you need to be that lies squarely at the feet
of late decisions you were just you're far better in
especially the modern climate of the salary cap and the
way things work right now, you are so much better
taking an early jump on and if you're wrong, figure.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Out how to get out of it.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
More than that, that is such a better problem to
have than to have to deal with the problem that
you sign a series of contracts so late that you
were basically held with your feet to the fire by
Dak and buy CD and buy Micah like you're just
every single time, if you're late to this thing, you
just keep paying late fee after late fee after late fee,
and eventually you have a hard time paying your credit
card bills.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
It's just it's it's an inevitability.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
It just becomes very expensive. And again that the goal
I think of every team is you have, you know,
think short term, but also long term. And when teams
fail to think long term, it really it really hampered.
I mean, look, you mentioned the Eagles earlier, like they're
the best thing they've done. Obviously drafting and developing has
been fantastic, but they have they've they're able to pay
all these guys because they do it at the right time.
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They spread the money out over the years, and to me,
it's just it's super important to understand where your roster
is now where it needs to be, and to get
and to pay the guys you need to pay, and
the Cowboys have just really I think have mismanaged that.
I think we understand with the Steelers, we don't have
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what they're doing, even though I disagree with what they're doing,
but they no long term thought whatsoever. Likes they're all
in this year and I mean, I just we're next season,
we'll be like, oh no, they made the playoffs and
lost the wild card around for the eighth straight season,
and then look at the roster and be like, oops,
we have to we have to rebuild and we have
nothing to rebuild around.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
The hardest part about that is you said earlier that
the worst place you can be in the NFL is
stuck right stuck in the middle, the middle class NFL.
I hear that, but I remember so distinctly the year
that the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Lost the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I remember looking at my buddy and saying, man, because
that was the Super Bowl, the tuck rule, the Syrogusa game,
like I watched three four straight years and just the
weirdest ways.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
In the playoffs, and it was heartbreaking.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I remember looking at my buddy saying, you know what,
I'd rather suck than keep having this happen.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And I hear Steelers fans say that all the time.
It's like, I'd rather suck than have this happen.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I said that, and then I watched my beloved Raiders
lose double digit games for double digit years consecutively, and
it is crazy to me, because you're right, the worst
place you can be stuck is in the middle class.
I understand that until you wake up one day and
you're a Raiders fan or a Bears fan or a
Titans fan. The Steelers are too well run to have
that happen for a long time. But man, when you
(33:31):
just when you really dive into that level of just
Sundays are hopeless by September, the third week in September, you're.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like, yep, another one of those years. Man, that's just heartbreaking.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Do you But you have that banner up of being
the Chiefs in October few years ago, right, you still
have the banner up there in the stadium.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I am one that doesn't talk my talk. I do
not talk my talk. I don't have any like I'll.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Just Raiders fans. I think John Grudey, he rose, he
put the banner up as he was driving around Erahead
Stadium after the game. I was making sure that that
that was still up. I know that's important to Raiders
fans on the internet.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I just the you know, if you, if you anyone
that's ever played pick up basketball, if you get dunked
on like fifteen times in a game, and then the
sixteenth time down the floor you finally get a block,
you don't talk, you just you just you know what
that you're one for fifteen. I don't understand why the
Raiders forgot that in that moment.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And god, it just it's.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Okay, it lives. It's nice. Look, the Raiders seem like
they have a plan at least, which again I mean
that that to me isn't is important. They have and
I a plan of how to build their roster and
attack for agency and whatnot. Which again, and I know
you want wins and that's super important, but at some point,
you know you're happy with just a plan. And one
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thing you said is so important in the NFL sells hope
better than any other league. And it's for many reasons.
What may it's what makes the NFL a really special league.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, I hope is the hardest thing to get, the
easiest thing to lose in football, and when you have it,
it's a very very special moment.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
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Speaker 4 (36:05):
It's about time, Jeff, like, we a big concert goer,
like wet we we out there going to like met
Life and hanging out at the big, the big, the
big shows.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Well, I live in Charlotte, so I feel like you
were in for some reason.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I thought you were in.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
But we we we get you know, we gotta get
him out of shows.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
No, my wife is a big concert goer. I am
not as much. I think my daughter's nine, she's big
into concert. I think I will probably take my daughter
too much of contract. It's not that I don't want
to go. I just don't go. My wife goes to
a lot of them. She's seen basically everybody. Uh she
(36:44):
will also like she flew to Vegas for e DC
this year, so yeah, she she likes that. That vibe,
look at that.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
That's see. I'm all in for Like.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
It took me a minute after a tour and before
I got to the point that I wanted to go
to shows, and then it was like, yeah, no, it's
just kid.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I'm just not a crowd person. You know, it's just like,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
You're also a huge human being, dude.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
I would have gone. I would have loved to go
to Taylor Swift. That would have been fun. I think
she was in Atlanta. I though that was the closest
she was to us, But tickets were like it was
it was cheaper to fly. I had a buddy who
who lived in Sweden actually just moved back home, and
he said he had tickets to a concert in Sweden.
I think it was cheaper for us to like fly
to Sweden to go watch her than it would have
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been to just go to Atlanta and get tickets. That's
it was. The tickets were so expensive in the States
to see her last, her last concert, I just it
made it just couldn't justify taking my eight year old
and paying that much money. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
No, I have a bunch of friends that went to
Amsterdam in Paris for that exact reason to see Taylor,
and I totally get it. But you are also, like
going to a concert, it's a different experience when you
wore a former NFL player. I'm just saying, like, uh so,
Jeff and I were hanging out at the super Bowl.
We were talking and this was hysterical to me. We're
just over off on the side of Colin. I heard
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was having a big party. So we're all we're all
hanging out, and I say, hi, yeah, yeah, So like
I leave, I leave from you and I talk and
I walk over to Cavino and rich Also you should
listen to every Day here on Fox Sports Radio. And
immediately the guys are cracking up, and I'm like, what
is so funny? Gavino and Richard like just standing there
watching you try and talk to somebody that is that large,
(38:21):
Like I'm five to nine, like everybody like, it's not
like I'm a small and I'm five to nine in
a quarter, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Used to be five nine and a half. I'm shrimping
and shrinking. That's what happens when you get old.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
But like standing next to you, I look like I'm
five to two. So you know, going to a concert
much different when you're your size.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yes, but I like music. I just don't. I just don't.
I just don't go to a lot of concerts. And
my wife doesn't for me, I said, she she is,
she's very into we you know, we I'm going to
Vegas next week for for Big ten Media Days, and
the Bactery Boys are at the Sphere and we my
wife was gonna fly in to see the Backstory Boys
and the videos from last week. I'm looking in credible.
(38:59):
It was the other fro any night for them at
the Sphere, so she she might still come in. I
might go with her if we if she comes in
town for that. That looks like a lot of fun.
That concert looks incredible.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah, no, that's on the muskle, Like, I got to
find a way to get to Vegas before that ends,
because that that show looks Anything at the Sphere just
looks incredible because of the work that they put into the.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Visual on that performance. And also, by the way, I
don't think this is a hot take. The Backstreet Boys
are great, good good music.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Like, look, they're now the Backstreet Men maybe at their
but come on, like, I'm all in, I'm all in, Like.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
It's certainly the Backstreet Men. Yeah, I think that's the
way to put it.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I mean, we'll rebringing new kids on the block
are out here.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Like Also, if I if I still had abs, I
wouldn't be wearing.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
If I had abs. I never had them. If I
had ABS, I wouldn't be wearing a T shirt and
a lot of the some.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Of the new kids out there like just you know, hey,
they're court with kind of new men on the block.
Now not new kids on the block, but it's funny.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I'm all in on this.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Also a little sports here.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
The w NBA All Star Weekend is is this weekend,
and you and I were talking about this yesterday, but
I said yesterday on air that the hardest part about
all of this is the opportunity lost. Like Caitlin Clark
is going to be at the game as the Adventure
as an ambassador. But man, Jeff, this just feels like
a huge opportunity loss because it's just not going to
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get the focus.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
So I I I'll go say this. I watched a
lot of WNBA one for one, I just became like
a Kaitlin Clark fan. I like watching her play basketball.
I think she's very it's a very exciting brand of
basketball to watch and it's it's enjoyable. So I've become
a fan. I've watched a lot of her games, and
I watched all our games with the fever, and we
(40:45):
can get this in a second. The WA is just
missing their opportunity to capitalize on this. I don't I
don't know why, to be honest with you. They have
an opportunity to really strike gold here and they're just
not taking full advantage of it in many different ways.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
You're right, they aren't, and it's becoming more and more
contentious through all of it, when it should be the opposite.
I'll tell you what I mean about that. Next these
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
You know it's funny.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
In the NBA, they spend all of their time covering
the sport, all of us talking about drama. The stories
are better than the actual product on the field, and
that's what we fall in love with. Like we fall
in love with the possibility that somebody's gonna come in
and do something credible, if there's going to be some
big event, and when we get to the.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Actual games, it's a letdown.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
What if maybe this year we're doing the same thing
in the NFL with one of the large, most prominent
franchises in.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
The entire league. What if this year we are.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Absolutely enamored with the soap opera that's going to be
the Pittsburgh Steelers. But what if it's all for nothing
because the Steelers aren't gonna be worth it. It's two
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He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Jason fitz Man. How are we
feeling this morning?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It is early in the morning.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
You're getting just a whole bountiful Like I had an
energy drink this morning. Those are rare for me now,
like I'm gonna be on one all day.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
How are we feeling?
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Brother? I am fantastic. Good to work with you. I look,
I know them do better than the couple that was
caught at the Coldplay concerts snuckling up to each other
where they shouldn't have been. So if your day is
going back, just remember it's not as bad as their
day is going. And so I cannot know that story. No,
it's not a sports story, but it is capture the
(01:58):
Internet and it's even a fake apology I think happening
right now with the CEO of Astronomer whos getting caught
that We've got the open on right now. It's it's
nice as the East Coaster to wake up and have
live sports on, which is a rarity. Mostly it's just
this when the open is on or even sometimes there's
(02:19):
you know there's a you know, there's another event. The
Olympics is one of them where it might be on
like in the morning, right, very rare for us on
the on the East coast, So a lot to get
to in the NFL. Man, look, Camp Chargers went to
camp yesterday. We have like actual camp footage yesterday, so
a lot to get into.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, it's uh, it's gonna be a fun morning.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Uh, just don't take your side piece to a concert
that's just a repeat.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Soon we're gonna have throughout the year.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It is quite remarkable, right, Like I know, they don't
expect to be on the JumboTron, Like I get that.
But it was a comp It's not like it was
a company thing. Like they weren't by themselves. So the
people obviously people knew like this is like what they
they just they're doing on the side. I guess I
don't know. I no, no, certain, not for me tell
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you that.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, when I was when I was touring, I have
a friend that for years was it was a drummer.
He played for a ton of huge acts and he
used to always walk off the bus, and he his
phrase used to always be anytime you were out there,
He's like, man, there's a difference between you know, hot
and half of everything you own hot. And then he
said the follow up, lilying to that, was always there's
(03:29):
an even bigger difference to half of everything you own
and every other weekend hot. Like that is just once
you have kids, that that changes everything. That did not
seem to deter any of them, as the as the
CEOs out here in the streets with his HR director
and it's just a lot of collateral damage. I keep
looking at all of it thinking, man, like, how do
you explain what hey, honey, like she gets on the
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internet at all and all of a sudden you're like, hey,
we should probably have a conversation like that is just now.
I cannot imagine how.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
My wife has a saying and again we are we
are very happily marriage. This is not at all replies
to us. But you know, she has a saying. It
says it's cheaper to keep her, you know, like it
sometimes you know it's just it's just it's just cheap.
It's just cheaper to do it. And it might not
be in this situation. But in the HR thing is
(04:20):
even better, right that the HR director is the one
that he's snuggling up with, you know. And obviously in
most companies, and my I am my own companies, I
don't have an HR director, but I know how they operate,
and most of the time, right, they operate and they're
supposed to to avoid these sort of situations, right, that's
that's that's their job is to make sure that people
(04:40):
are complying with human resources and for her to be
the one caught doing this as well as another fun
layer to it. But yeah, man, I've watched a video
so many times. I know people have said that if
they didn't react that way, nobody would have paid attention
to it. But how they're supposed to reac They're they're
(05:00):
having a fair and they caught on camera at a concert,
they're going to react in that way.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, I mean there is this this portion for me too.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I you should know this about me. But I'm not
a conspiracy theorist at all. Like I don't waste my
time with.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I don't I don't eat. I'm a why person. I
need to know why, why something's happening. I'm not a
I'm with you, very little conspiracies, I believe.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, I'm one of those guys that like, if we
didn't land on the moon, it doesn't change my Friday.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So I don't really care.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
But I I did look at this and say, the
odds that you're in a suite and the camera people
are going to find you in a stadium concert for
Coldplay and you know you're gonna be a you know
this this CEO of a billion dollar company, Like, that's
just the odds on that were so crazy. I just
there's a part of me that's like, did somebody in
cold Place camp know, like, were they out of an
(05:53):
affair of a prominent person? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
If you listen to that. I think that if you
listen to the audio, there's that like you can hear
them say like, oh, there's just a couple like like, oh,
look at this couple, Like I think they had no idea.
I think I think they had no idea and uh
and they just they just had the worst luck ever
than this situation. That's is that simple. By the way,
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you know, if again, if you're if you're stuggling, good
good good tip for you guys out there. If you're
snuggling in in front of forty thousand people and a concert.
I kind of feel like you deserved to get caught
at that point.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
One hundred percent. And look, I think, but we'll get to.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
The Steelers in a second.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Everybody calmed down.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
He did make an official apology last night. But what
I think was funny about it is people when they apologize,
just need to learn less. Is more like there's just
this level because the apology started out with you. I
want to acknowledge the moment that's been circulating online and
the disappointment it caused. What's what was supposed to be
not of music and enjoy turned into a deeply personal
mistake playing out in a very public stage when it
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sincerely apologize to my wife, my family, and the team
and astronomer. You deserve better for me as a partner,
father and a leader. That's great, he's doing great there
so far.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Just shut up.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
You did it and and then all of a sudden,
I also want to express how troubling it is that
what should have been a private moment it became public
without my consent.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I respect artists.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And entertainers, but I hope we can all think more
deeply about the impact of turning someone else's life into
a spectacle.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Okay, so is that I'm under the impression that is
a fake apology, but I I really own that. I
think I think it's I think that's the thing. I
think it's because the last part of it made it
seem like it's not real, Like who why would you
include the part about oh I got got I I
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think I I And also to the reading about this
as well. It says here that when when when the
kiss came landed on them, the pair of media moved
out of the frame and tried to hide Coldplay frontman
Chris Martin joke either having an affair. They're just very shy,
so like it was not set up to me that way.
(08:09):
I think the apology is is not real. But make sure,
like I.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Mean, look, and we've gotten to this spot now where
who knows.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I don't know how you trust anything anymore except for
the video itself. You know that one. He can't he
can't say anybody faked it. But I don't know how
you trust anything you read anymore. So you know the
number of every time you got to like quadruple check
everything that ever gets posted and there was a fake
apology or fake statement early.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
But then this though, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
The part about him blaming the concerts for your affair.
That bro, bro, come on, man, just own it. Just
own it. His wife, by the way, supposedly already changed
her last name on Facebook. So I would imagine that
it's not it's not. It's not good, buddy, all that's
not good. But cold Play, you lost your relationship because
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you were a cold Play concert. That's it's not great.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I just always think of Eddie Murphy rolls.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Like half Eddie, Eddie, I want half.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I mean, she's just she's the day taking it to
the bank. I mean that is Oh yeah, I mean
that is. And it's his own damn fault. By the way,
there's no doubt about it. I don't want to We're
not going to talk about the affair all morning, just
most of the morning.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Have you ever, I mean, you've got enough prominent friends.
Have you ever had it, like.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Without naming any names, you ever like you ever have
a prominent friend that kind of put themselves?
Speaker 5 (09:36):
I mean no, but but I'll tell you a fine
so Andy Reid, who's fantastic. Of course, I played one
season with him. My brother played five of the Chiefs
and he was one thing that Andy is he he's
just very aware. I mean he's played a lot, he's
coached a lot of football, you know. And before I
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think it was BEFO week one of the first year
he was in Kansas City, he told us, you know,
his thing is always has like short team meetings, which
are great, it's fantastic, it's it's awesome, but very very short.
But we had a little longer one before the season start,
just a couple of things before week one, and one
of the things he said to us was was, Okay, guys,
handle your tickets. So we get at certain number of
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tickets and we have to give the request of the
number of tickets to the ticket person by like Wednesday
of game week, right, And he always just say, hey, guys,
handle your tickets early in the week and make sure
if you have any baby mamas or you're having an affair,
that the wives don't sit with the girlfriends. So we said,
he said, he told he told that to us, and
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everyone was like, was giggling, like, of course, but I guess,
and everyone asked around. I guess there's been issues on
former teams he was on where wives and girlfriends would
sit together at games, which just seems like very avoidable,
avoidable bad time. You know, like, what is a player
(11:03):
putting your wife and your girlfriend in the same area.
That is dumb. That is dumb. So that does happen.
I didn't think it happened, but it does happen. Players
will put themselves in that situation with their significant other
end there and they're laid there having the.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Affair with I certainly had a musician buddy that I
won't throw into the bus that his wife and kids
were at a show when two of his different side
pieces decided to show up to the same same show.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
He didn't have a very good show. I'm just gonna say,
like you just eventually, man, everybody gets you gets got
Like you.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Saw both of them like sitting there together.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
A tour manager got the heads up that was like, hey,
we got a problem. So yeah, he was the whole
time he was on stage. You could see him palpably sweating.
It was a it was I mean, I'm laughing and
I shouldn't be laughing because I know.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was a really tough day for a lot of people.
But at the same.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Time I look at them like man, eventually you get
gott No matter how smart you think you are, eventually
it all catches up to you. He's Jeff Swartz. I'm
Jason fitzworre in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
We got a lot to get into this morning. I
started off by saying it. I'll say it again because
we'll get into it in just a minute. Here the
Pittsburgh Steelers are making news. The question is is that
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all they're gonna do this season. We'll break it down
after a quick break. He's Jeff Swartz. I'm Jason Fitzen
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Speaker 4 (13:17):
DJ Want went out and got himself paid, no doubt
about it. And the Pittsburgh Steelers are gonna be a
talking point. The question is, are they actually gonna be
a great football team?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
What is all of this for? I'm not sure we
actually know the answer.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
He's Jeff Schwartz on Jason Fittswor hanging out on Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. Jeff, Like,
the funny thing is, I've been saying this, I feel
like for a couple of months, because all we do
is keep talking about Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers and
Aaron Rodgers, and like there's an unavoidable thing here right
the Steelers are gonna be this massive talking point all year.
(13:50):
And just like as we started the show today, I said,
like the NBA has built a whole empire on talking
points that are more meaningful than the game.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Half the time.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And I feel like that's what looking at like at
some point, Great, you get TJ. Watt back on a
mega deal, it needed to happen. Great you go out
and sign Aaron Rodgers, you had to have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
All of these things make sense. But I guess I
struggle to figure out how.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
All of these things make Pittsburgh any bet better than
the third best team in their own division. And why
are we talking about this much hype over a team
that's probably going to be the third best team in
its own division.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well, it's, first of all, it's Pittsburgh, right, So hype
is always going to be there. But I think you're
I think the thing that for me, you know, it's
very important as a team to understand two things, right.
You want to build in the short term and long
term right, and those sometimes, you know, conflict with each other.
And I want to see your plan right. And so
the other's plan very clearly is we're going all in
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for this season. It's a veteran group. They've signed older players,
they traded for older players. They built their roster around
Aaron Rodgers and the defense and Watt and Hayward and
Ramsey right, and they traded for DK. It's it's all veteran. Okay,
And this is the Pittsburgh Steelers, right, the super Bowl
(15:06):
or bust for them, And I think they've calculated incorrectly
that they are chasing a short term fix, which is
we're Pittsburgh. We always win nine or ten games, We're
always competitive. Which are which are which are good qualities
to have? I'm sure a lot of fan bases would
love your Raiders fan correct me if I'm wrong there, Like,
I'm sure you would love to have Pittsburgh, Okay, I
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I think you would love as a Raiders fan to
have that stability. But the stability in Pittsburgh is feels
like to me the worst place to be in the NFL,
which is not good enough to win a super Bowl,
not bad enough to draft young quarterback. And Pittsburgh's plan
to me, feels very foolish. You're going all in older players,
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which almost never works in the NFL. They break down,
they get hurt. That's the unfortunate part about the league, right,
one hundred percent injury rate. The older you are, the
more you get hurt, and the harder it's to come
back from that injury. They have almost no sort of
young core to build around and They've done that purposely, right,
because they want to try to win a super Bowl.
(16:12):
Now they're not winning super Bowl. That's that's the miscalculation.
Their calculation is we're gonna get the get in the
postseason and then make it happen. Look at the look
at your division, look at the rest of the league.
You're not better than Buffalo, Baltimore, the Chiefs. You're not
better than parbat of the Chargers and Broncos. You're just
not better than a lot of the teams in you know,
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in your own conference. And it's all in for nothing.
And the next year you're gonna sit around and go, well,
we're okay, we're a year older. Now we're where's our
young core of our team, our base of our roster.
We don't have a quarterback again. Now we get draft
one of course, and they've been more aggressive in the
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draft than previous regimes. Is Omar Khan got a contract extension.
But they don't have a core back in the future.
They they've yet to address that. They tried with Picket.
They drafted the old quarterback in the first round that year,
very telling on the talent of that draft. Now this
draft should be it should be more quarterback friendly. I
just don't like and don't think the way they're building
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their roster is a successful process, and I think it'll
end up with the same place they're always in, which again,
I mean, is that what you want? Is that really
where you want to be as a franchise.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
The other hard part about it is what does all
of this do for the noise around Tomlin? And you know,
maybe the organization doesn't listen to noise, Maybe none of
it matters. Maybe all of us, instead of sitting in
front of microphones overblow it every single year.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
That's all possible.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
There is this part of me that man, where there's smoke,
there's fire, and every year just gets louder and louder.
And the only thing that really quells that noise are
playoff wins. And so I'm looking at this team and
you know, I hate ranking things. I think ranking trying
to come up with the ranking is so subjective and impossible.
I like to just put things instead on shelves. Like
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when you walk into a bar, you're like, hey, I
want top shelf vodka. They're on a shelf together. Then
the well vodka is all on a shelf, Like you
understand where these things fall. So to me, if you're
gonna go all in, it's because you are a top
shelf team that is sitting on the same shelf as the.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Leader of the lead in your conference.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
To your point, the Buffalo is the Kansas City's the
Baltimore's of the world. They're sitting on a completely different
shelf than where the Steelers are.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
To me, I don't think that they even belong in
that same conversation. They're on the next.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Shelf down, and that's a good shelf, like that's that's fine.
But when you go this all in, and I think
the result is more than likely going to be either
the same as it's.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Been or maybe even a little worse.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
When all of that comes together, then we're gonna be
sitting here in February and everybody's gonna say.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Oh, it's just time for Tomlin to move on.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
And then you turn around and think, Okay, now you're
resetting the entire organization because you went wrong on a
fool's goal plan to try and go all in on
a year where all in doesn't get you good enough.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Correct, And that's where the long term thinking has to happen. Right,
It's hard to thread a needle between here's our short
term plan, here's our long term vision. Their long term
vision doesn't seem to be there. The long term vision
is we're going year by year, which, again, for an
organization like Pittsburgh and the success they've had over the years,
it's very tough to sell your fans on like, hey, guys,
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we're gonna kind of have a year when we pull
back a little bit to get better moving forward. You can,
you can still have a pullback year and be a
little bit competitive and give your fans hope. But the
issue again is again, what is there. What's their plan
next year? I don't know they're playing this year, so
(19:47):
to try to win obviously, okay, I mean sure, we
all try to do that, but it doesn't mean it's
gonna happen and we all agree on that. I could
give you all the franchises at the top of the
NFL and tell you their plan for the next few
years all revolves around the quarterback. They have the pictures.
They don't have a quarterback for the future. Rogers is
Rogers is not as bad who want him to be.
It's also not what he was, you know, three or
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four years ago. So the best to get from Rogers,
I think is just average, and maybe average is good
enough to get you to the postseason with the with
the roster you have. But I just there are long
term plans non existent, and I think for a team
of like like Pittsburgh, the best teams in the NFL
both are done at the same time long term. Right,
we think about the long term and the short term,
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and Pittsburgh is so short sighted right now the way
they're they're bode their roster.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
I also think to your point when you mentioned a
step back can result in hope, right, Hope in the
NFL comes in the form of a young quarterback. I
just when you have a guy that's young that you
think is going to be the difference in your franchise,
you can even as a fan base, you can sort
of handle terrible years. Like Buffalo had a couple of
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weird years in the beginning with Josh Allen. It was
fine because they had Josh Allen. They didn't work at it,
like I don't think Bengals fans are sitting here panicking
the way frankly they should be sometimes at how much
Joe Burrow's being wasted. But that's okay, because they got
Joe Burrow right Like, even if you're a Titans fan
right now and your team has been an abject disaster
and forgotten in the car in the process.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Of the NFL, you got cam Ward. Now you got
every like.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
So it's hard to sell hope in what even could
be a step back here if you're a team that's
always nine and eight or ten and seven and you
still don't have a long term answer at the quarterback
and you don't really at that position, and you don't
really have a clear path to how you're going to
get better than Baltimore. And that's like when you're just
constantly looking at the Ravens and Lamar and saying, well,
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they are they're better today, and they're set up to
be better for a minute, and that organization has something
that this organization doesn't have because they have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
They know they can bank on for the next ten years.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It's just it's a really weird spot for the Steelers
to be in. And because of who the Steelers are
and who the job that Mike Tomlin has done, we
just expect that they'll be able to make chicken salad
out of you know what, and I I just don't
know long term that that does. Eventually everybody gets exhausted
with chicken salad.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
Well we I mean to be fair, we know what
it's gonna be like long term, it's not gonna be
good unless look, we can eat our words. Obviously, if
they go out and get a quarterback in this next class,
it's it's it's it's shaping up to be a huge
quarterback class, just based off of mock drafts and look
around college football, so they can easily get you know,
put themselves in a situation to draft at eighteen, like
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they always do, end up with a good quarterback. I
mean again, it's those are things that are all possible.
But in all my words, obviously, if that happens, But again,
what do you what are you building around though? Who
are the pieces? Dk Metcalf is interesting because I've asked
everyone this when we talk about DK Metcalf, what what
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is DK's best moment as a as a wide receiver?
Do you do you you watch a ton of football?
What's the top of my head? I don't, I don't.
I meant, well, the big moment is when he caught
from behind. Right wise, he is a fine wide receiver.
He's made one I think was All Pro Team, Pro
Bowl Team in two thousand in the COVID year. Otherwise
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he's just been like, okay, like he's he gets a
thousand yards every other season. He's only had a thousand
yards and three of us six seasons, it's not he's not.
Is that who you're building around? Offensively? Yeah, the offensive line,
you know, an offensive line nerd like myself was good.
It's a it's a good young offensive line, like like
there's some real talent there. But I mean that paratly
doesn't excite Steelers fans. But where's it like after the
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season and let's say the old guys are just done right,
like Cam Hayward probably is last season. You know, Slighs
near the end, Ramsey, who are the young even Patrick
Queen is getting older? Who are the young guys you're
building around? If you're Pittsburgh, they're kind of just not there.
So you're going all in on this season when you're
not gonna win a championship and then you don't really
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have young guys to backfill you, you know, like you've
sort of you you're going all in this window without
thinking about the future. In my opinion at all, and
it's really going to cost them.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Jason Fitzworn on two Pros to
a Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio. I want
your kind of mindset on this. As a former player
and somebody that's around the league so much, what are
you supposed to do? And this is a philosophical question.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I've had it with Buck Rising at a couple of times
on Fox Sports too. But like t J.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Watt needed to get to paid, and there's no doubt
about it. Like you have a great player, you reward
a great player. But this is the same conversation in
particularly when we look at Russiers like Miles Garrett getting
paid isn't really going to result and wins for Cleveland
they suck, They always suck, and and you know, at
some point that doesn't mean you don't sign resign a.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Great players like you mentioned. I'm a Raiders fan.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I'm watching Max Crosby basically, you know, just waste his
career not winning any football games in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
And of course Vegas needs to pay Max.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Crosby because you're not gonna find another Max Crosby in
the draft, but also not winning a lot of games
with the Max Crosby, He's like, how do you find
the line between you know, paying the guys that you
have in building for the future all at once when
when you're stuck wherever you are, whether it's in the sea,
is sucker in the sea and mediocrity.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah, it's a fair question. So you know a few
reasons why you sign these players, right, And Crosby I
think is a really good example for this because I
think Pittsburgh has sort of more and we know they
have more veteran kind of I think leaders than the
Raiders do at the moment. But is you a need
to have someone in the building who is the culture
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tone center, right, who everyone respects and who everyone looks
up to, right, And it's worth and you want the
production with that as well, and Crosby's giving you that production,
So its TJ. Well, you need that in the building.
You just have to have that veteran and you pay
for that guy. And I think you pay more for
guys who you who you are homegrown, who have you drafted,
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you've developed that bleed your colors, right, So for Maxcart's
be a great example, like you to me, you need
you need those guys on your roster and you try
to build around them as you get going. The Steelers
arguing for them is that they sort of have Cam
Hayward right, like they don't need maybe a second person
for that. But at those positions, those impact positions, pass rusher,
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off the tackle, now, wide receiver, I think, cornerback, you
need dudes there to play. So even if you think
this is an overpay, and it might be, it's only
a three year deal, it's probably only a two year deal,
quite honestly. So you need those guys in the locker room.
You need guys that the players can look up to,
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that players look and say, this is the way to
prepare and to win and and and to and also
sometimes when you've been through the hard struggles as a
player on a bad team and you become good like that,
having that perspective can help other players right as well.
So you have to do it as you'll so to
The thing I think is important for the health of
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just your roster building is right now that people are
questioning the Cowboys, what is Michael Well, you're not paying
Macha Parsons, Like, what are you doing. If you're a
player on that roster who's up for a deal, you're like,
what why don't we pay Michael Park? Like do I
want to be here if we're not going to pay
that guy? Like are they going to pay me? What's
happening right now? And when you take care of your superstars,
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then the players that are young that they look at
and say, hey, man, you know, I kind of want
to stay here, and maybe it'll take a little bit
less because I want to stay and we're building something here.
Free agents look at you and think, oh, well, well
they pay their superstars, they'll probably pay me too if
I do well there. Like, like, all those things matter.
When you build a roster. You want people to want
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to come there. You want to be a place that
that develops players and pays those guys. Those end up
being often the core of winning teams. And then you
want the locker room. You want, you know, to have
that guy in the locker room as well. So I
get what all these deals happen. It makes good roster
building sense for them to happen.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
You mentioned Michael Parsons, and that's the next portion of
this that's really.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Interesting to me.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't know if you saw this, but Parsons actually
did an interview with the Undertaker. I didn't know the
Undertaker was out here doing like on form interviews with
NFL players that were deep and meaningful, but he was.
He was out here talking to Mike about getting paid.
And what was stunning to me is Jeff like, Okay, look,
we all know that the Cowboys seemed to do business
the wrong way. It always gets done, so like, I'm
(28:32):
done sitting here saying, well, they're not going to be
Like my god, I was on radio, you know when
everybody said that Zeke wasn't going to get a long
term deal. That's how many years we've been doing this
with the Cowboys. They always signed people, they just signed
people late. They're the anti Eagles and that process. But
it was pretty stunning to me because Michaeh flat out
admitted that his people went to the Cowboys and wanted
to do a deal a year ago, and the Cowboys
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basically weren't interested. They had other priorities to handle. And
so I look at all this, I'm like, man, all
that happens every single time that somebody else gets paid
is that the value drives up and so the Cowboys
continue to sit here and let Parsons sort.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Of dangle in the wind, and they'll get it done.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
But it's just what every time we sit here and
talk about why the Cowboys aren't who the Cowboys should be.
I think about moments like this when you've got a
superstar player sitting there with a former ww WE superstar
talking openly about the fact that there are too many
interferences in trying to get.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Business done and he just wants to get paid and
keep doing his job.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
With the Cowboys. It just gets so much more expensive
every time someone gets someone gets a contract for Parsons,
and you you got to get these deals done before
it gets too expensive. And again you have a player
like Parsons, a homegrown player you've drafted who's a game wrecker.
I mean, I mean, they should have paid him the
second they had the opportunity to pay him. And look,
(29:48):
maybe there's a hole up there. We don't know what
happens in the locker. We don't know what happens behind
the scenes. Maybe he's a bad locker guy, maybe he's
a bad leadership guy. We don't know these things. I'm
just speculating on why he would be signed. But every
deal it's I mean, he could have they could have
gone him for for thirty five thirty three year, So
now they're gonna have to pay forty one forty two years.
(30:08):
I mean there's worth it, obviously, it's what the next
contract up is. But the Cowboys, maybe they've realized that
we're not as good as we think we are, and
we want to trade him for two first round picks
and rebuild. I mean that's certainly a possibility here, but
dracking their feet has cost them a lot of.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Money, and that much. Look, I don't care about Jerry's money.
I don't care about any owner. I want every owner
to just get spent to the point that they're poor,
Like they all have too much money. It's for we all,
I will say this though, Like it's it's the eventual inability.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
To build the roster the way you want to build it.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
And it's the eventual inability to be as flexible as
you need to be that lies squarely at the feet
of late decisions you were just you're far better in
especially the modern climate of the salary cap and the
way things work right now, you are so much better
taking an early jump on and if you're wrong, figure.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Out how to get out of it.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
More than that, that is such a better problem to
have than to have to deal with the problem that
you sign a series of contracts so late that you
were basically held with your feet to the fire by
Dak and buy CD and buy Micah like you're just
every single time, if you're late to this thing, you
just keep paying late fee after late fee after late fee,
and eventually you have a hard time paying your credit
card bills.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
It's just it's it's an inevitability.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
It just becomes very expensive. And again that the goal
I think of every team is you have, you know,
think short term, but also long term. And when teams
fail to think long term, it really it really hampered.
I mean, look, you mentioned the Eagles earlier, like they're
the best thing they've done. Obviously drafting and developing has
been fantastic, but they have they've they're able to pay
all these guys because they do it at the right time.
(31:47):
They spread the money out over the years, and to me,
it's just it's super important to understand where your roster
is now where it needs to be, and to get
and to pay the guys you need to pay, and
the Cowboys have just really I think have mismanaged that.
I think we understand with the Steelers, we don't have
(32:09):
what they're doing, even though I disagree with what they're doing,
but they no long term thought whatsoever. Likes they're all
in this year and I mean, I just we're next season,
we'll be like, oh no, they made the playoffs and
lost the wild card around for the eighth straight season,
and then look at the roster and be like, oops,
we have to we have to rebuild and we have
nothing to rebuild around.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
The hardest part about that is you said earlier that
the worst place you can be in the NFL is
stuck right stuck in the middle, the middle class NFL.
I hear that, but I remember so distinctly the year
that the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Lost the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I remember looking at my buddy and saying, man, because
that was the Super Bowl, the tuck rule, the Syrogusa game,
like I watched three four straight years and just the
weirdest ways.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
In the playoffs, and it was heartbreaking.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I remember looking at my buddy saying, you know what,
I'd rather suck than keep having this happen.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And I hear Steelers fans say that all the time.
It's like, I'd rather suck than have this happen.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I said that, and then I watched my beloved Raiders
lose double digit games for double digit years consecutively, and
it is crazy to me, because you're right, the worst
place you can be stuck is in the middle class.
I understand that until you wake up one day and
you're a Raiders fan or a Bears fan or a
Titans fan. The Steelers are too well run to have
that happen for a long time. But man, when you
(33:31):
just when you really dive into that level of just
Sundays are hopeless by September, the third week in September, you're.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like, yep, another one of those years. Man, that's just heartbreaking.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Do you But you have that banner up of being
the Chiefs in October few years ago, right, you still
have the banner up there in the stadium.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I am one that doesn't talk my talk. I do
not talk my talk. I don't have any like I'll.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Just Raiders fans. I think John Grudey, he rose, he
put the banner up as he was driving around Erahead
Stadium after the game. I was making sure that that
that was still up. I know that's important to Raiders
fans on the internet.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I just the you know, if you, if you anyone
that's ever played pick up basketball, if you get dunked
on like fifteen times in a game, and then the
sixteenth time down the floor you finally get a block,
you don't talk, you just you just you know what
that you're one for fifteen. I don't understand why the
Raiders forgot that in that moment.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And god, it just it's.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Okay, it lives. It's nice. Look, the Raiders seem like
they have a plan at least, which again I mean
that that to me isn't is important. They have and
I a plan of how to build their roster and
attack for agency and whatnot. Which again, and I know
you want wins and that's super important, but at some point,
you know you're happy with just a plan. And one
(34:47):
thing you said is so important in the NFL sells hope
better than any other league. And it's for many reasons.
What may it's what makes the NFL a really special league.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, I hope is the hardest thing to get, the
easiest thing to lose in football, and when you have it,
it's a very very special moment.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
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Speaker 4 (35:08):
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It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox
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Speaker 4 (36:05):
It's about time, Jeff, like, we a big concert goer,
like wet we we out there going to like met
Life and hanging out at the big, the big, the
big shows.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Well, I live in Charlotte, so I feel like you
were in for some reason.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I thought you were in.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
But we we we get you know, we gotta get
him out of shows.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
No, my wife is a big concert goer. I am
not as much. I think my daughter's nine, she's big
into concert. I think I will probably take my daughter
too much of contract. It's not that I don't want
to go. I just don't go. My wife goes to
a lot of them. She's seen basically everybody. Uh she
(36:44):
will also like she flew to Vegas for e DC
this year, so yeah, she she likes that. That vibe,
look at that.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
That's see. I'm all in for Like.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
It took me a minute after a tour and before
I got to the point that I wanted to go
to shows, and then it was like, yeah, no, it's
just kid.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I'm just not a crowd person. You know, it's just like,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
You're also a huge human being, dude.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
I would have gone. I would have loved to go
to Taylor Swift. That would have been fun. I think
she was in Atlanta. I though that was the closest
she was to us, But tickets were like it was
it was cheaper to fly. I had a buddy who
who lived in Sweden actually just moved back home, and
he said he had tickets to a concert in Sweden.
I think it was cheaper for us to like fly
to Sweden to go watch her than it would have
(37:27):
been to just go to Atlanta and get tickets. That's
it was. The tickets were so expensive in the States
to see her last, her last concert, I just it
made it just couldn't justify taking my eight year old
and paying that much money. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
No, I have a bunch of friends that went to
Amsterdam in Paris for that exact reason to see Taylor,
and I totally get it. But you are also, like
going to a concert, it's a different experience when you
wore a former NFL player. I'm just saying, like, uh so,
Jeff and I were hanging out at the super Bowl.
We were talking and this was hysterical to me. We're
just over off on the side of Colin. I heard
(38:00):
was having a big party. So we're all we're all
hanging out, and I say, hi, yeah, yeah, So like
I leave, I leave from you and I talk and
I walk over to Cavino and rich Also you should
listen to every Day here on Fox Sports Radio. And
immediately the guys are cracking up, and I'm like, what
is so funny? Gavino and Richard like just standing there
watching you try and talk to somebody that is that large,
(38:21):
Like I'm five to nine, like everybody like, it's not
like I'm a small and I'm five to nine in
a quarter, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Used to be five nine and a half. I'm shrimping
and shrinking. That's what happens when you get old.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
But like standing next to you, I look like I'm
five to two. So you know, going to a concert
much different when you're your size.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yes, but I like music. I just don't. I just don't.
I just don't go to a lot of concerts. And
my wife doesn't for me, I said, she she is,
she's very into we you know, we I'm going to
Vegas next week for for Big ten Media Days, and
the Bactery Boys are at the Sphere and we my
wife was gonna fly in to see the Backstory Boys
and the videos from last week. I'm looking in credible.
(38:59):
It was the other fro any night for them at
the Sphere, so she she might still come in. I
might go with her if we if she comes in
town for that. That looks like a lot of fun.
That concert looks incredible.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah, no, that's on the muskle, Like, I got to
find a way to get to Vegas before that ends,
because that that show looks Anything at the Sphere just
looks incredible because of the work that they put into the.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Visual on that performance. And also, by the way, I
don't think this is a hot take. The Backstreet Boys
are great, good good music.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Like, look, they're now the Backstreet Men maybe at their
but come on, like, I'm all in, I'm all in, Like.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
It's certainly the Backstreet Men. Yeah, I think that's the
way to put it.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I mean, we'll rebringing new kids on the block
are out here.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Like Also, if I if I still had abs, I
wouldn't be wearing.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
If I had abs. I never had them. If I
had ABS, I wouldn't be wearing a T shirt and
a lot of the some.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Of the new kids out there like just you know, hey,
they're court with kind of new men on the block.
Now not new kids on the block, but it's funny.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I'm all in on this.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Also a little sports here.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
The w NBA All Star Weekend is is this weekend,
and you and I were talking about this yesterday, but
I said yesterday on air that the hardest part about
all of this is the opportunity lost. Like Caitlin Clark
is going to be at the game as the Adventure
as an ambassador. But man, Jeff, this just feels like
a huge opportunity loss because it's just not going to
(40:20):
get the focus.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
So I I I'll go say this. I watched a
lot of WNBA one for one, I just became like
a Kaitlin Clark fan. I like watching her play basketball.
I think she's very it's a very exciting brand of
basketball to watch and it's it's enjoyable. So I've become
a fan. I've watched a lot of her games, and
I watched all our games with the fever, and we
(40:45):
can get this in a second. The WA is just
missing their opportunity to capitalize on this. I don't I
don't know why, to be honest with you. They have
an opportunity to really strike gold here and they're just
not taking full advantage of it in many different ways.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
You're right, they aren't, and it's becoming more and more
contentious through all of it, when it should be the opposite.
I'll tell you what I mean about that. Next these
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