July 23, 2025 • 47 mins
Jonas & Brady talk about Big Ten Media Days and commissioner Tony Petitti defending their proposed College Football Playoff changes, Micah Parsons speaking out about his frustrations on a lack of contract extension with the Cowboys, a fond farewell on ICYMI, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming up a
little over ten minutes from now, with lead to lap gone,
We're going to have something called Coop's Leftovers, and who
the hell knows what Superstar Justin Cooper has got in
store for us as a close up shop here on
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a Wednesday morning.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That's right, superstar.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean he did. He did discuss a ketamine overdose
last hour.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So that was a little bit much. I'm more curious
just to talk about his childhood career.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Ac should we just asked him questions about uh, that's
going off famous? Yeah, that works all right, so we
will get that for you. Coming up here a little
over twelve minutes from now, Justin Cooper. If if anybody
was wondering whether or not Mike Rabel was back in
the NFL, don't worry. He's back, so much so that
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he took time to remind everybody that he's back. When
he was asked a similar question about conditioning for his
players from Ben who covers the Patriots there locally, Mike
Rabel had this to say in response to the question
he had just received moments prior.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean, whether you were in a como when I
answered Tom's question or typing on your phone or tweeting.
I don't know, but I spent five minutes answering that question,
and I can go back through it, but.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'd rather not. We won't know.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We did pretty good on the linear run test, which
they practiced.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They know what it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The big thing will come when they're in line contact.
I mean, and you're sitting there, you're wrestling with a guy,
and then the d lineman's rushing. He almost gets to
the quarterback. Or we're telling him to plant and run
and go sprint to the football and then go do
it again. Or we're asking Kyle Williams to go run
a post and he didn't get the ball, but he
wanted to get the ball, but he did it. Can
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he run back, get set, know what to do the
next play. That's really where we'll see. So I'll be
able to answer that question again, hopefully only once in
a few days.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I love my framble so much.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I mean, it's it's such a combination. What's great about it.
It's a combination of him who he is. It's a
bit of the sense of Belichick, right from all the
years he was around Belichick and the influence it's had
on him. And it's just it's awesome that it's back
into England, like he's he's able to follow in the
footsteps in a way of Bill Belichick, with the manner
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in which he is able to handle the media and
you and you feel like you can push back against
some of those guys, which is great. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It was. What was funny is that while he's going
through his explanation, you could tell towards the end he
was trying not to laugh because he knew he was
being a pain in the ass, but he was kind
of having fun with it. And it does it does
make you question, all right, so why was he no
longer fit for the job in Tennessee?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Like why was that?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Like why why was that the decision they wanted to
make as an organization? It's very very strange. But now
they're on onto another coach. But yeah, he does feel
like the perfect guy for New England like that, that's
the perfect hire. And it's why Robert Kraft went as
as hard at Mike Rabel as he did to where
it was basically a formality. They interviewed some other candidates quickly,
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but they wanted to hire Mike for Abel as soon
as possible because Girod Mayo just was not a fit
even though he'd been there for a long time. Rabel
seems like a home run higher for New England. They
could be sneaky good next year. By the way, I
think they're the kindish. I think they're going to be
better than the Dolphins next year.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I mean, it all depends on Drake May, you know,
and really how he continues to evolve. Josh McDaniels is
one of the better offensive play callers and minds, and
then can they provided him protection and everything else out
around him. I think defensively they'll be fine. It really,
to me comes down to the growth of Drake May
And the tough thing is they're not going to surpass
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Buffalo in that division. But could they be that next team?
I mean, we know the Jets are question mark. I mean,
you know, new head coach, new quarterback with Justin Fields.
He still has a lot to prove too. Even though
it's a talented roster, there's still a lot of questions
there and Miami's in a it feels like make or
break year, So it could be New England that surprises
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a lot of people. This year ends up maybe biting
for a wildcard spot, but at least second in the
division as everyone's chasing Buffalo. I mean, I don't think
there's no one even close to Buffalo right now.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
By the way, what did Frisco call Miami camp softy?
Is that he just watched something like that.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I don't know he makes these comments yet he hates
going anywhere cold. So again, his entire perspective on you know,
why there shouldn't be games in the winter time is
because he doesn't like actually working in the media and
having to stand out in the cold to do a
postgame hit, Like that's what this is all born out of.
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And he'll say it's, oh, it's gonna you know, impact
the passers and the and the win that I'm like, dude,
wind impacts throwing more than anything else. It could be
ninety degrees and Sonny and still super windy like that,
That's not what it is. It's the cold with him,
like he just doesn't like the Coli. You know, lived
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in Florida's whole life went Arizona State and the rest
is kind of history.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, so Prisco will be at a camp softie for
the last place Dolphins coming up. Yeah, I'm gonna go
ahead and call my shot there. The Dolphins are going
to finish last in that division. I'm not ready to
give away my picks just yet. Knocks right, I'm not
ready to give away all my picks yet, but you
can I can assure you that Miami Dolphins will be
last when we're doing our picks, and hopefully this year
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when it gets to the AFC South, LeVar actually picks
that division. Because if you remember last year and we
were doing our season picks, LaVar just skipped the AFC
South sticks picks.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, it was nothing, was absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
He literally skipped a division. The thing is he got
it though.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right, which the worst part is is like he thought
he did the work, but he actually did nothing. And
then and then he tried to defend himself. It's like,
can you just admit when you don't do something like
it's okay, it's just radio. This isn't like a homework excigement.
It's not a quiz or a test like it's okay.
It's just to say like, yeah, I didn't do it. Yeah,
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I didn't do anything, so.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So it's all right. Oh yeah, we're coming up on
about a month away till that we get to look
forward to that. So it is two pros and a
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two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Fox Sports Radio Brady Quinn Jonas Notch with you here.
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Speaker 1 (07:34):
We appreciate you doing so. We'll be taking you all
the way up until nine am Eastern Time, six o'clock Pacific,
Brady Quinn, how we feeling all the way over in
Las Vegas?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Feeling great? I mean, boots on the ground here in
Las Vegas for Big Ten media days, You're ine to
a sense that football is almost here. It's flipping awesome.
Talking to some of the coaches, some of the players.
Now that doesn't go without saying that there are some
problems in college football, and this is that time of
year that you're reminded of that because of the talk
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about expansion, because of the talk about nil and some
of the things that you know, really came to light
yesterday that involved college football, and just even talking to
some of the coaches, you know, some of the haves
and some of the have nots, you know how hard
it is for them to be able to compete with
some of the blue blood programs who are maybe a
little bit better funded. With all that being said, once
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that ball's kicked, man, no one's thinking about any of
the other stuff. So I can't wait for it to
get here.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Any any flashbacks walking around Las Vegas thinking about the
last time we were there as a show at Super Bowl,
kind of seeing the sights and sounds, you know, Mandalay Bay,
some of the beautiful any any anything go on there
that kind of jogged your memory thinking back to the
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good old days of strolling up to Radio Row.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean, I'm not sure if that's how I described it,
but I did have a moment yesterday ross walking that
same walk, you know, the same walk we all took
through Mandalay Bay, and you know, you know, it was
probably a little later in the morning at this point,
but it reminded me of how depressing that was during
Super Bowl when when everyone else was still out partying
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and having the time of their life during super Bowl
Week and it was our next day, like it was
our morning time, and then everyone else was still out
hanging out and I know he's not here today, but
it was capitalized by a moment where I saw Lee
de Lap, who we were initially walking together, and I
kind of was looking around being like, how is this
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place still busy on a weekday like this at two
thirty in the morning. And next thing I know, I
look and Lee's gone and he's over with whatever band
was performing, like standing in the crowd singing along to
one of the songs. If that didn't epitomize like that
whole Super Bowl week. I don't know what does, but
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it was depressing walking back through that same exact path
to go to the convention center.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, when you're doing radio row at three o'clock, the
show starts at three am, and you're you know, walking
through there shortly after two am to get to the
convention center, and you can hear the vacuums and you
hear that mixed in with a band still playing and
some slot machines going off. You just kind of stop
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and think to yourself, we're living a world that nobody
else is ever living in our business. Like really, there
was nobody else there in the convention center, and so
taking that long walk from the hotel to get all
the way down there, and there was a certain point,
like Wednesday or Thursday, I think we were walking together
and it's just like, man, all right, when are we
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going to wrap things up here?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This is It felt like we were a kid walking
by the playground watching all our kids play, and we
were going to like the principal's Oh that's kind of
how it felt. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It was not the most enjoyable, but I mean, look,
you know, big ten media days are there and now
you've got another day coming up today. What is on
the DOCA for today? Is there any special interviews, any
special assignments you've got or is it just kind of
a networking and hanging out with the illuminaries of that conference.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
No, you know, so people know I'm kind of behind
the scenes for TV. All these players and coaches are
one spot. So what TV networks do is they'll come
in a lot of the things that you'll see during
the course of the season. You will see that that
stuff that's taped now, so you'll see what they call
portraits or bumber shots where the players are like flexing
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or screaming into the camera and all that that's filmed
at these media days, right because they're all in one spot,
you kind of knock it out over a two three
day period and same thing like a lot of the
interviews will do with coaches. Hopefully that stuff can be
evergreen and a last into the season where there's not
too many changes or you can ask questions at least
from the TV eat side of things that live up
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until some of those games, I mean some even until
the end of the regular season. So that's really what
we do now, is we try to get a bit
of a get ahead of a lot of the TV stuff.
So when it comes to the week, do we grind
We don't have to worry about bothering the coach, bothering
the player. We're trying to do an interview.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Then all right, So let's get into the nuts and
bolts of some of the discussion from yesterday. Tony Petiti
is the Big Ten commissioner. There's been this conversation about
expansion of the college Football Playoff for twenty twenty six.
There's the twelve team, they'd like a sixteen team. They've
got the SEC in the mix. ACC and Big twelve
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seem to be paired up together. So Tony Petiti yesterday
spoke about everything that comes along with the discussion surrounding
the college Football Playoff.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Like the revenue share parameters, the Big Ten and SEC's
format control is set forth clearly in the agreement that
all members signed. With respect to format, the Big Ten
has been consistent and strong preference for a playoff system
that allocate spots based on conference standings and the results
of playing games. We want to better connect the regular
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season and the postseason, a critical goal of any postseason
format regardless of sport, is to keep as many teams
alive as deep into the season as possible. We want
more conference games to matter in November. Also, the playoff
format should not function as a disincentive to schedule tough
non conference games. As we said throughout this process, we
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are open to considering any format ideas that come from
our colleagues or the CFP staff, but to be clear,
formats that increased the discretion and role of the CFP
Selection Committee will have a difficult time getting support from
the Big ten.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
All right, So that being said, what the hell are
we looking at when it comes to the expanded College
Football Playoff? Because it feels like the SEC started to
maybe side a little bit with the model that the
ACC in Big twelve was looking at, and now the
Big ten has come out and said, listen, we're just
not going to support that most likely.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So it's a nuanced conversation. This is always about money,
and I've talked about this before. So the SEC is
pushing a model of the five conference champs, so the
Power four and the highest rank group of five would
get the automatic bids into the College Football Playoff, and
then the other eleven if we expanded to sixteen teams
would be at large bids, meaning the College Fotball Playoff
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Committee would look based on the course of the regular
season and say, you know, these teams are most fit
to make the playoff. Now if we look at last
year and we applied that model, what would be interesting
to look at and see is, you know, would the
College Football Playoff Committee take teams who maybe had a
softer schedule in comparison to an SEC or of Big Ten,
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but teams only lost one or two games. It seems
like that'd be more the direction that they would lean
or go based on the gripes from a lot of
SEC teams who you know, had three losses, for example,
and weren't a part of the playoff. Now in a
sixteen team playoff, maybe it's different. You know, maybe the
SEC gets some of those A large bids that they,
you know, wouldn't have gotten in a twelve team. But
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that's what's really it's about. It's about money. The more
teams you get from your conference into the College Football Playoff,
the more money you're gonna get for your conference, you know,
for your school. So there's a push, i think to
some degree for that format and apart from the SEC
because they think they're superior, and even for some of
the other conferences, I think to some degree, because they
feel like if there's more at large bids, there's going
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to be more opportunities for some of those teams to
maybe steal more than only a couple of teams, you know,
for the example. The other format that has been discussed
and talked about is the four to four for Big
ten SEC. It'd be another two each for the Big
twelve an ACC So right there, if you're doing the
math on this and you've got sixteen, that's twelve, So
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you'd have another spot for the highest rank group of
five team that would automatically get in, So those would
be your automatic qualifiers. You know, you'd be done right there,
and you'd be at thirteen. So you only have three
spots for at large bids. And look, you as a
fan might say, I don't really care, or maybe that's
enough Big ten teams, or maybe that's enough big you know,
SEC teams. But the reason, one of the reasons why
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I think the Big ten wants to go at this
format is is if you go with the five conference
champions and then the eleven at large, there's the thought
that no one's going to schedule hard and non conference games.
They're they're going to try to have just a clean
sheet all the way through, and then that's going to
give them the best chance of the best possible chance
of getting the playoff. If you schedule an automatic qualifiers,
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then it kind of comes back to instead of just
worrying about trying to make the college Football Playoff, it's
more about trying to be one of those top four
teams in your conference, at least if you're the Big
Ten or SEC, and if you're the Big twelve or
ACC one of those top two teams. And here's what's
interesting about that model. If you did go with that model,
I think what the Big Ten is proposed or some
people have talked about, is you would have a conference
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championship game one in which we're you know, obviously the
two teams playing for the conference championship one and two
in the conference would automatically be going into the College
Football Playoff. The winner would be the team that most
likely would get a buy if it was fourteen, If
it's sixteen, there's really not as much of an incentive,
but at least you're still winning the conference. If you
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looked at teams three through six, they would be you know,
playing off for those final two spots. So it's kind
of more enticing at least when you look at that
conference championship weekend or how you go about structuring November,
as you heard Tony Petiti talk about, it would make
it more exciting because you'd have three games that are really,
really meaningful. Now, look, there's kind of arguments to all
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these because my counter argument, as I'm saying that right now,
would be, well, you look at last year. You know,
you felt like there was a ton of teams who
are in it because we didn't know who the College
Ball Playoff Committee was going to select and be able
to rank within that group, and we also didn't know
how conference championship weekend was going to play out. So
I gotta be honest with you, like, I'm not sure
how this hits you, and I know that that's a
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lot of talking, but that's where college football's at. There
is a lot of disagreement, there's a lot of confusion.
There's a lot of people who, quite honestly, I almost
feel like they don't they don't even want to deal
with it because they may want to see the twelve
team playoff play out a little bit more before they
make this expansion push.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That's kind of where I fall in it is it's
a little overwhelming that we got one taste of the
college football Playoff at twelve teams and expanding to that point,
and I felt like people were so in the weeds
with complaints about last year's formats to really sit and
enjoy it. And I just looked at it and said,
a year one, it's expanded, and it's awesome. The fact
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that you're getting to see those home games, the weather
having an impact, getting to be there at the Orange Bowl.
Going into that scene at the Orange Bowl between Notre
Dame and Penn State, I wasn't really sure what to
expect because I thought, Okay, you know, how how is this?
How are they really going to present this to people
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on the outside. Myself didn't have a rooting interest, just
went there to cover the game with you guys, and
then to be there and see the excitement, and I thought, oh,
this is awesome. And the fact that you get more
of these type games in playoff games, meaning moving forward,
I think is great for the sport. And I just
felt like there was too much of, well, what's wrong
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with it as opposed to what's right with it? And
that's where now we get to this offseason and instead
of just looking at the twelve team that we're going
to get here and some of the adjustments that they've made,
now we're already talking about sixteen. You've got you know,
the Big Ten campaigning for their side of it. You've
got the SEC doing it. You've got you know, the
ACC and the Big twelve kind of pairing up, and
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it feels like it's overtaking what should be a really
fun season and the expanded playoff. Now we get to
see in year two how teams adjust and how teams
are going to I guess, approach the year with one
year in the bag, one year in the books, and
what does it look like in year two of this
expanded version, as opposed to let's just jump right ahead
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to twenty twenty six and then talk about that. I
just I want to kind of take in year two
and then go from there. And I feel like there's
been a lot in the weeds. And I'm talking to
Petros about this and I was like, man, it's kind
of like the college football offseason is kind of exhausting
because it is about nil. It is about the expanded playoff,
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and you're not hearing a whole hell of a lot
about all right, well, who's supposed to be good this year?
Like who are the players to watch? We've heard a
lot about arch Manning. I can already get the vibe
that he's going to be the guy that's going to
be the lightning rod for hot takes because of the
name and everything that goes along with it. But as
to all of that, all we're talking about is how
do we expand it? How do you fix nil? It's
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in the courts, it's played out lead like all of
the other things that come along with it. As opposed to,
hey man, we're going to get expanded playoffs, teams with
an opportunity that maybe wouldn't have had an opportunity to
win a championship, and the seasons right around the corner.
We're a month out, literally a month out from the
season starting. That should be the excitement as opposed to
all the other stuff that's playing to next year and beyond.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I don't know, And look, it's unfortunate, but this is
where college football has been. I mean, it seems like
every single offseason it's conversations about ANIL, it's conversation about
the transfer portal. And there was a ruling yesterday that
we can get to at some point later on that's
going to change the way at least based on the
past week or so schools thought they were going to
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operate with how much money they could spend on a roster.
You know, that war chest of funds just opened back
up yesterday. So that's that's a whole other conversation. All
that being said, college football, just from meeting with these
coaches and players, though, is still in a really great spot.
I mean, I'm always blown away by one just how
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much bigger and more athletic, and like the kids keep
getting like every single time, like every year that goes by,
I'm like, gosh, am I getting smaller, Or like Sonny Styles,
the linebacker for Ohio State, I'm like, my god, like
he's just you see these kids walk by. Jeremiah Smith yesterday,
I'm looking at him like I literally said to him,
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I go, hey, I have to come by a house
state that dude. Do I an interview with you and
your coach in like a week or two. I go,
Can we just play catch? Can I just throw to you?
For I just want to get the experience of what
it feels like to throw to someone who's going to
be that talented, who's like the next Randy Moss or
whoever you want to compare him to. That's what strikes
me as But it's just ridiculous when you see these
young men and you're going, I don't remember them looking
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like this back when I played, and so I do
you fall sometimes, not to completely segue to a different
topic to when you hear all these old timers are like, ah,
they couldn't play it back, I'm like, I don't know, man,
these guys are pretty damn elite and athletic and so
much more technically sound and more fundamentally advanced than the
older generations, just with how much specialized coaching they've gone
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and training they've gotten. It never, it never amazes me
every single year just seeing some of the studs that
come through the sport.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Being at the Orange Bowl on the start, like watching
and kind of looking from the crowd and seeing all
the guys that aren't playing that either you know, aren't
in the rotation, aren't good enough to play, or still
working their way into potentially more of a playing more
of a role next year and seeing how big those
guys are, and then it just puts into perspective if
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those guys can't get on the field, what the hell
are the guys on the field like? And you just
you take a step back and you realize, my god,
I just looked up by the way you mentioned sunny styles.
He's twenty years old, he's six four, two thirty five,
so it hasn't even really filled out. And so he's like,
it's just it's a whole nother world. Man, It's a
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whole nother world. And you see, you know, you just
you just think about you know what it takes to
actually get to that. And I'm surprised every time I
see somebody who's an athlete, the difference, like we're both
human beings, yet we're not really the same human being,
Like they're on another level. And so to see that
it's right around the corner is going to be a
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lot of fun. Now, do you have a preference? Do
you have a preference if somebody were to say to you,
are you've got to pick your expanded college football playoff
model for the sixteen team. Do you do you fall
on the side of the five plus eleven or do
you go with the other the other eye.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I think it depends on like I'm not as much
of a fan. Well, I guess there's there's two reasons
why I would be a fan for the four and
four automatic qualifiers for the Big Ten and SEC. Is
if they did do the playing games with the third
through sixth ranked teams. I think it makes a pretty
compelling case where you've got three games that are ultimately
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really meaningful in the Big Ten the SEC, and obviously
you would have you know, a couple of those as well.
And then the problem is with that model, I don't
know how the ACC and the Big twelve would would
handle the automatic qualifiers with two because I mean, you're
gonna have basically your two teams playing in the conference championship,
and if there's two teams going from your conference, you'd
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be saying, well, it's not we can't say the winner
of this game goes and the loser doesn't. But the
problem with that is if you say both teams go,
then there's nothing on the line. So what do you
do to create two games where the winner? I mean,
now you have four teams in the mix for it,
even though they're that fourth team might have three losses
and they're playing the number one team and they've got
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their undefeated. If you catch where I'm going with this,
it gets complicated with how you go about breaking it down,
and so it's it's one of the reasons why I
think I like the five conference champions and the eleven
out amount of qualifiers and that model better. But that's
still without you know, not without issues. Ultimately, when it
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comes down to it, you know, I think what's happened
in this case, and this is not to go on
a diatribe, this is a byproduct of ESPN and what
they've done to college football, and you might think it's good,
you might think it's bad, but this is what's happened.
College football was always a regular season sport. You'd play
your ten games, eleven games back in the day, you'd
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go to a bowl game, and then the AP would
decide who they thought was the national champion. All right.
It evolved from then to then becoming this, Well, now
we're gonna have the BCS, so we have a ranking system,
and that ranking system is going to pair off the
top two teams based on the computer and all these
different models, and even there were some human you know,
votes that were in there too, And we're going to
(26:49):
decide who the two teams are there, and those two
teams played off for the national champion. That's how we
did it. Then then we expanded to the playoff. We
had four teams playoff for right and now we're to
this point. And what's interesting about out the more we
expand the playoff, it takes away then from the regular season.
It takes away from those non conference matchups because teams,
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as was a talking point yesterday Indiana, go look at
there when you get a chance, their non conference schedule
for the next five years, and look at what they've
done to try to make sure they have an unblemished
record in non conference play just to get to conference play.
And the shots that Kirk Sidnetty took up the SEC
it was great, But more teams are going to do
(27:30):
that unless you force him to play tougher non conference schedules.
And so what's happening, at least in my opinion, in
college football is ESPN has taken it to make it
more about the college football playoff, which they completely own.
TN t will be a part of it only because
they leave. They they at least, you know, a portion
of it back, but they completely own it. And so
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the SEC is backed by the ESPN, the Accies backed
by ESPN, the Big Twelve who's partially backed by ESPN.
They're all pushing for that model because it really comes
down to what ESPN wants to do, and they want
to highlight the playoff as much as possible because they
have control over that. That's what this is really about.
It's about ESPN trying to manipulate, to me the game
(28:17):
of college football and change it from being what was
a regular season sport. And we all kind of, you know,
love the matchups, love the robberies, love the history, and
now kind of make it not as consequential only to
the point of, well, you know, how are we getting
that those teams to get in? But once we get
in the playoff, that's what it really matters. That's what's
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happening in college football. Even the conference championship games are
becoming somewhat meaningless, at least as it currently stands, until
we expand to sixteen and so forth.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I remember the good old days when Beno Cook
would be the only guy pissing people off, like now
you got fine bomb, you get all these guys with
hot takes, and Beno Cook was the old man just
sitting up there, just waxing poetically about who deserved to beware,
who deserve to be ranked here, and then you just
got through it. And then you know, at the end,
it was what was at the AP and the coaches powl.
(29:06):
You had you had split national championships one year. I
think back in all years, so I.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Remember going to like different schools and you know, teams
were like, oh, yeah, we won a national championship back
in nineteen sixty three, and I was like what why?
Or like even worse this is? This is to be
the worst. They'd be like, oh, go back to nineteen
forty five. I was like, well we weren't. We had
like nineteen forty where we had war during some of
those years. And then they're like, yeah, but we claimed
a national championship. I was like, oh, okay, well I
(29:32):
guess all right, Well there we go.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
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close up the show. We're not going to do Lee's
leftovers because Lee's not here and who the hell knows
(29:56):
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The storyline of the NFL off season and training camp
involving Micah Parsons continues to give us our little dose
of daily tidbits about how negotiations are going. Yesterday, following
the day of Jerry Jones discussing not really having much
thought or care about Micah's deal and getting it done
(32:56):
at least publicly and speaking with the media at training camp,
Micro respond and spoke with the media yesterday about the
situation himself.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Cowboys want to get a deal done.
Speaker 10 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, you know, uh, you know, for me,
it really don't matter. Like I said, I've been pretty consistent.
If they don't want me here, they don't want me here.
I go around my business. I understand the nature of
the business. Like I said, as long as I'm hearing
an under contract, I'm gonna do what I have to
do to perform at the highest level. But this is then,
this is then, you know, there's there's the same way
(33:26):
that Jones, j Jones and Stephen Jones and the other
j Jones take care of their family, It's the same
way I need to take care of my family, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I got my own three.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
Kids to my own, so we all need to take
care of their own family. At the end of the
lather got for each other, but stuff gets set in
the media.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Have you had a conversation with Malcaster's presser.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
No, but I'm I'm gonna talk to you know, I
just thought as a whole, like, you know, everyone's situation
is differently, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
At the end of the day, Like, I'm here for
my teammates.
Speaker 10 (33:54):
You know, I'm not here to please another grown man.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm here for them. You know.
Speaker 10 (33:58):
I want to be here with Trey watching rehab, watching
on the field, watch his group. I want to be
here at bat On La Terrence still like I'm here
for these guys.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I'm not here for him, you know.
Speaker 10 (34:07):
So I think, you know, I think at the end
of the day, he's on the field with us. You know,
we're on the field playing the games and things like that.
So I'm gonna just control my teammates, keep boosting it,
and you know, we're just gonna keep playing together.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So there's the uh, the latest from Micah Parsons. So,
by the way, I was able to speak yesterday, he
just wasn't able to practice because he had some back tightness.
Hate when that happens.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say that's that back tightness lingers sometimes,
especially when you're waiting on a contracts touching Hi.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I mean he seems he seems a little bit annoyed
with the situation, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And Jerry, Well, did that sound like he was looking
for a contract? I mean, I just I keep going
back to the words of one LeVar Arrington about looking
for a contract or not and all that. It sounds
like he is. Sounds like he's looking for one. If
he doesn't get it, he'd rather go somewhere else and play.
But that being said, this is just all part of
the game, and it I mean, there's two schools of thought.
(35:07):
When you're a player and you're looking for a new deal.
It used to be back in the olden days you
wouldn't show up and if that's the case, then you'd
be subject to fines. Now most of those things would
get wiped away and they'd be part of the negotiation
when you came back for the new deal, and most
teams are understanding of that. Now this gets into that
(35:28):
word collusion, because we've seen a lot of organizations be
able to then now say well, we're actually not going
to do that anymore. We've decided that this is the
rules within the CBA. We're going to apply the rules,
and if you don't want to show up, don't show up.
You're going to find And so what players have done
to circumvent that is they've said, ah, my hamstrings are tight,
(35:49):
Oh my blower backs tight. Oh you know, I'm feeling sick,
I'm under the weather. They've done some things too to
counter that to where now they're present and they're there,
and now on top of that, they're speaking to the media,
which puts a little more pressure on the ownership or
the coaching staff and the general manager have to speak
(36:09):
to the media too during training camp and answer those questions.
So it's been a battle of how you go about
managing it in front of the media as opposed to
it in the olden days, just trying to be away
and then try to let that team like look at
the roster without you on it, and how they would then,
you know, feel about what this team looks like moving forward.
(36:30):
But you know, again, times have changed, and I think
they'll get a deal done. I know Jery, you know,
doesn't want to lose one of the best defensive players
in the league, and they're not going to trade them away.
I'd be shocked if that actually happened. So this deal
will get done. This is just a hard ball that
the the hardball that to Jones' family likes to play,
and it's a hard ball that you know, really Mike
has got to play where I would again assume this
(36:52):
back tightness is going to extend for another few days
or so until something's done.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I mean, they don't have to do a deal, you know,
they don't. I mean, he is under contract, so it's
not like they have to do a deal. I just
think how this is going to go is because the part,
you know, Todd Archer's report that they haven't even spoken
with Mike's agent, David mullagedto like, haven't even had a
conversation about any of this. And I go back to
(37:17):
that and I think, all right, so here's how this works.
We're going to see a report come out maybe in
the next couple of weeks, and it's gonna say report
the Cowboys, according to sources, have opened up negotiations with
Micah Parsons agent, and then it just slowly starts to
build from there and ultimately, even though they don't have
to get a deal done, I can't imagine this gets
(37:40):
into the regular season. Although didn't Dak Prescott sign his
contract shortly before the opener last year the year before,
So I mean, we got all the time of the
world for stuff to bleed out and trickle out. But
Mica does seem like he's a little bit frustrated with
everything and Jerry's comments, like when he said, like, what
did you make of Jerry's comment? Way, I'm going to
(38:00):
talk to him, Like, I just wonder what that discussion
is going to be like, because Jerry's going to figure
out a way to smooth it over and then probably
hand him another offer and Okay, let's just get this done.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I also find it interesting that he brought up, you know,
being here for Trey, you know, talking about Trayvon Digs. Yeah,
and that was one of the other players that Jerry
took a shot at, right, we know, like what he
did in regards to his contract and de escalated, you know,
one of the incentives in his contract because he didn't
show up for the offseason rehab and he's been publicly
talking about that. So it was interesting that the way
(38:31):
Micah phrased everything, saying, Hey, I'm here and I'm not
here for him. I'm here for my teammates. I'm here
for Trey, I'm here for others. You know, also a
player who's probably frustrated with what's transpired this offseason. I
granted different circumstance. I mean, that's on Trayvon Diggs for
choosing to rehab where he rehabbed, and that's look, that's
in his best interest, I'm sure his, or at least
I should say, I hope his agent was making him
(38:53):
aware that this was within his contract and within the
potential of happening. You know, you're going to be subject
to losing this amount of mine money or your ability
to earn this amount of money if you're not with
Dallas rehabbing. So a little different set of circumstance. But
it was interesting that Mike almost in a way took
up for him. And you know, he's talking about being
their form rehabbing. I mean, m is to be on
(39:15):
the playing field. I think as soon as his contract
gets done, you know that back's magically going to feel better.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I also look at it like so clearly you know
he's probably taken this a little personal, and there could
be a thought to, well, don't take it personal. This
is just how this goes. This is business in the NFL.
But I could understand why players would take some of
this stuff personal, like especially the first time around. Maybe
if he's looking for a second contract. I you know,
I could understand, I've been through this before, but I
(39:41):
could understand why you would take this personal. Like I
never like, I'm never surprised when you hear a player
or somebody talk like this. There was that old story
that Derek Jeter his final negotiation with the Yankees, he
took it personal because he felt like they were trying
to place a value on him. We're ignoring everything that
he had done throughout the course of his career. And
(40:03):
I just think sometimes on the outside fans look at
this stuff and go, oh, well, you know, big deal.
This is just part of it. You're going to be
paid a lot of money, Like, you know, why would
you have hurt feelings? I get it, Like, I could understand,
especially he's young dude in his early twenties, trying to
look out and secure his future financially. I could understand why,
(40:23):
based on what he's done in his resume thus far,
that he would take umbrage with Jerry Jones's comments. I
totally understand it makes sense to me so, but ultimately
they will get a deal done and then we will
find out and figure out something else we can discuss
when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys. Per usual, it
is two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here on
Fox Sports Radio, Brady Coin, Jonas Knox with you here.
(40:44):
Coming up next though, we are going to pay tribute
and we are going to do it with maybe the
best version of this song that you've ever heard, and
it's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 1 (41:06):
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Speaker 6 (41:44):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
not lead to Lap, the one and only Justin Cooper.
Let's go, Yes, thank you very much.
Speaker 9 (42:02):
That's pretty yeah, Coop, all right, Well, you know, not
to change the mood, but I'm sure you guys saw
that the legend Ozzy Osbourne passed away at seventy six
years old.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That was a bummer yesterday.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
It was it kind of hit it hit me. I
was kind of surprised, how like I was, like, you know,
because he kind of kind of knew it was coming.
But I mean, he just had that awesome farewell concert
a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
He's cool. What do you mean you knew it was well?
I was gonna say, like I did have someone that
was talking to you yesterday though, Man, do you remember
when he was on that show and he was having
a hard time kind of moving around talking. Then they're like,
that was like twenty years ago. Yeah, they're like, so
it to your point, I mean it, I don't know
if it was a surprise.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I mean, he lived a great life, but he lived
a hard life.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Man.
Speaker 9 (42:50):
Yeah, that's right, he did.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But snorted up a row of ants in front of
Moley Crew.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You list everything he did, you know, list every single thing.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, that was They were like, you know, trying to
see who could out do the other ones. And he
got down. So there was some popsicle stick left over
at a pool at a hotel they were staying at,
and the there was like a trail of ants, and
so Ozzie got down on all fours and snorted a
row of ants.
Speaker 9 (43:23):
Well not only yeah, not only was he a legend
in the music world, but he was also a legend
in the sports world, isn't that? Isn't that right? Jonas?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (43:32):
Nice? One of the all time best renditions that we
have here.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
The seventh inning stretch at Wrigley Field back at three.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
And Ozzie Osborne.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
All right, Cicatto, that's I want to hit a real,
real crazy crowd.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Stop singing are you ready?
Speaker 9 (43:55):
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I can't hear you?
Speaker 9 (43:58):
Are you ready.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Too?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And how many years ago was this?
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Three, that's what I'm saying. This was twenty two years ago.
He lived a good life.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, if you would have told somebody he's got twenty
he's got twenty two more of these to go.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah. I mean he was getting a
lot of help in the show at that time. I
feel like there was a lot of help for him.
So it again, blessings out to the family. And that's tough.
That's always tough to lose someone you love.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
I think he was five years ago he got diagnosed
with it's not Parkinson's, but it's something similar to Parkinson's.
And then he just played that concert mentioned a few
weeks ago, and it was a who's who from rock
and metal that was there that were performing with him.
And so to see him get to go out one
last time, he was emotional at the time. Hell of
a run for Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 9 (45:13):
What else we got, Coop, Well, I'm sure you guys.
You guys might have talked about this already, but I
wanted to bring it up because it kind of kind
of plays into my world a little bit. Adrian Peterson
started training for his celebrity boxing match. Now maybe a
month or two ago, there was some viral video out
of him at a poker game getting into an argument
(45:34):
with a fellow player and starting to throw some throw
some hands. And now they're going to do it on
an official basis. But yeah, this tends to happen at
poker games, even though you know the home games.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Have you have you? How many fights have you seen
at a poker tournament coop? Because you're a degenerate poker player.
You're just in Vegas, not that long ago, that is
trueading were you? It was the world's here, he's a poker,
that is correct.
Speaker 9 (46:02):
You don't see it happen a lot at tournaments, but
these these cash games that are just you know, hosted
by random people and random houses, it happens. It happens
somewhat often. I've seen it, seen it a few times.
I haven't seen it go like crazy. But there was
this one time that this this old dude, he almost died.
(46:23):
What do you mean, Well, there was this there was
this kind of bigger guy playing and this old guy
who also, by the way, was like a little handicap.
He had a cane, he could barely walk, and he's
just he's drunk and starts telling the bigger dude. He
starts calling you fat bleepity bleep, and the big guys like,
(46:45):
you call me that one more time, and I'm kinda like,
put hands on you. And the old crippled guy didn't care.
He said it one more time. The other guy got
up shoved. There's like a three hundred pound difference here,
just shoves him and he goes flying and his head
just barely misses the kitchen counter by like an inch.
(47:05):
And you're at these tournaments, yeah, yeah, that was. That
was in the beginning of my poker days, and that
kind of scared me a little bit, and I was like,
what am I doing? But now I'm kind of used
to it.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
What place did the cripple used to it?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Because it happens all the time, Coop.
Speaker 9 (47:18):
You know, people drink at these games and they're taking
money from people.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
It happens, Brady, how about the fact that Coop's trying
to win money from a cripple at a card game.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
I love what you go. I get used to it. Oh,
it happens all the time.
Speaker 9 (47:32):
He's there, his money, he's up for grabs.
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming up a
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We're going to have something called Coop's Leftovers, and who
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(00:20):
a Wednesday morning.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That's right, superstar.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean he did. He did discuss a ketamine overdose
last hour.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So that was a little bit much. I'm more curious
just to talk about his childhood career.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Ac should we just asked him questions about uh, that's
going off famous? Yeah, that works all right, so we
will get that for you. Coming up here a little
over twelve minutes from now, Justin Cooper. If if anybody
was wondering whether or not Mike Rabel was back in
the NFL, don't worry. He's back, so much so that
(00:52):
he took time to remind everybody that he's back. When
he was asked a similar question about conditioning for his
players from Ben who covers the Patriots there locally, Mike
Rabel had this to say in response to the question
he had just received moments prior.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean, whether you were in a como when I
answered Tom's question or typing on your phone or tweeting.
I don't know, but I spent five minutes answering that question,
and I can go back through it, but.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'd rather not. We won't know.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We did pretty good on the linear run test, which
they practiced.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They know what it was going to be.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The big thing will come when they're in line contact.
I mean, and you're sitting there, you're wrestling with a guy,
and then the d lineman's rushing. He almost gets to
the quarterback. Or we're telling him to plant and run
and go sprint to the football and then go do
it again. Or we're asking Kyle Williams to go run
a post and he didn't get the ball, but he
wanted to get the ball, but he did it. Can
(01:54):
he run back, get set, know what to do the
next play. That's really where we'll see. So I'll be
able to answer that question again, hopefully only once in
a few days.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I love my framble so much.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I mean, it's it's such a combination. What's great about it.
It's a combination of him who he is. It's a
bit of the sense of Belichick, right from all the
years he was around Belichick and the influence it's had
on him. And it's just it's awesome that it's back
into England, like he's he's able to follow in the
footsteps in a way of Bill Belichick, with the manner
(02:29):
in which he is able to handle the media and
you and you feel like you can push back against
some of those guys, which is great. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
It was. What was funny is that while he's going
through his explanation, you could tell towards the end he
was trying not to laugh because he knew he was
being a pain in the ass, but he was kind
of having fun with it. And it does it does
make you question, all right, so why was he no
longer fit for the job in Tennessee?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Like why was that?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Like why why was that the decision they wanted to
make as an organization? It's very very strange. But now
they're on onto another coach. But yeah, he does feel
like the perfect guy for New England like that, that's
the perfect hire. And it's why Robert Kraft went as
as hard at Mike Rabel as he did to where
it was basically a formality. They interviewed some other candidates quickly,
(03:16):
but they wanted to hire Mike for Abel as soon
as possible because Girod Mayo just was not a fit
even though he'd been there for a long time. Rabel
seems like a home run higher for New England. They
could be sneaky good next year. By the way, I
think they're the kindish. I think they're going to be
better than the Dolphins next year.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I mean, it all depends on Drake May, you know,
and really how he continues to evolve. Josh McDaniels is
one of the better offensive play callers and minds, and
then can they provided him protection and everything else out
around him. I think defensively they'll be fine. It really,
to me comes down to the growth of Drake May
And the tough thing is they're not going to surpass
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Buffalo in that division. But could they be that next team?
I mean, we know the Jets are question mark. I mean,
you know, new head coach, new quarterback with Justin Fields.
He still has a lot to prove too. Even though
it's a talented roster, there's still a lot of questions
there and Miami's in a it feels like make or
break year, So it could be New England that surprises
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a lot of people. This year ends up maybe biting
for a wildcard spot, but at least second in the
division as everyone's chasing Buffalo. I mean, I don't think
there's no one even close to Buffalo right now.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
By the way, what did Frisco call Miami camp softy?
Is that he just watched something like that.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I don't know he makes these comments yet he hates
going anywhere cold. So again, his entire perspective on you know,
why there shouldn't be games in the winter time is
because he doesn't like actually working in the media and
having to stand out in the cold to do a
postgame hit, Like that's what this is all born out of.
(04:55):
And he'll say it's, oh, it's gonna you know, impact
the passers and the and the win that I'm like, dude,
wind impacts throwing more than anything else. It could be
ninety degrees and Sonny and still super windy like that,
That's not what it is. It's the cold with him,
like he just doesn't like the Coli. You know, lived
(05:15):
in Florida's whole life went Arizona State and the rest
is kind of history.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, so Prisco will be at a camp softie for
the last place Dolphins coming up. Yeah, I'm gonna go
ahead and call my shot there. The Dolphins are going
to finish last in that division. I'm not ready to
give away my picks just yet. Knocks right, I'm not
ready to give away all my picks yet, but you
can I can assure you that Miami Dolphins will be
last when we're doing our picks, and hopefully this year
(05:42):
when it gets to the AFC South, LeVar actually picks
that division. Because if you remember last year and we
were doing our season picks, LaVar just skipped the AFC
South sticks picks.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, it was nothing, was absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
He literally skipped a division. The thing is he got
it though.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Right, which the worst part is is like he thought
he did the work, but he actually did nothing. And
then and then he tried to defend himself. It's like,
can you just admit when you don't do something like
it's okay, it's just radio. This isn't like a homework excigement.
It's not a quiz or a test like it's okay.
It's just to say like, yeah, I didn't do it. Yeah,
(06:24):
I didn't do anything, so.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So it's all right. Oh yeah, we're coming up on
about a month away till that we get to look
forward to that. So it is two pros and a
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Speaker 4 (07:20):
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Speaker 1 (07:34):
We appreciate you doing so. We'll be taking you all
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Brady Quinn, how we feeling all the way over in
Las Vegas?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Feeling great? I mean, boots on the ground here in
Las Vegas for Big Ten media days, You're ine to
a sense that football is almost here. It's flipping awesome.
Talking to some of the coaches, some of the players.
Now that doesn't go without saying that there are some
problems in college football, and this is that time of
year that you're reminded of that because of the talk
(08:04):
about expansion, because of the talk about nil and some
of the things that you know, really came to light
yesterday that involved college football, and just even talking to
some of the coaches, you know, some of the haves
and some of the have nots, you know how hard
it is for them to be able to compete with
some of the blue blood programs who are maybe a
little bit better funded. With all that being said, once
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that ball's kicked, man, no one's thinking about any of
the other stuff. So I can't wait for it to
get here.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Any any flashbacks walking around Las Vegas thinking about the
last time we were there as a show at Super Bowl,
kind of seeing the sights and sounds, you know, Mandalay Bay,
some of the beautiful any any anything go on there
that kind of jogged your memory thinking back to the
(08:51):
good old days of strolling up to Radio Row.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean, I'm not sure if that's how I described it,
but I did have a moment yesterday ross walking that
same walk, you know, the same walk we all took
through Mandalay Bay, and you know, you know, it was
probably a little later in the morning at this point,
but it reminded me of how depressing that was during
Super Bowl when when everyone else was still out partying
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and having the time of their life during super Bowl
Week and it was our next day, like it was
our morning time, and then everyone else was still out
hanging out and I know he's not here today, but
it was capitalized by a moment where I saw Lee
de Lap, who we were initially walking together, and I
kind of was looking around being like, how is this
(09:37):
place still busy on a weekday like this at two
thirty in the morning. And next thing I know, I
look and Lee's gone and he's over with whatever band
was performing, like standing in the crowd singing along to
one of the songs. If that didn't epitomize like that
whole Super Bowl week. I don't know what does, but
(09:58):
it was depressing walking back through that same exact path
to go to the convention center.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, when you're doing radio row at three o'clock, the
show starts at three am, and you're you know, walking
through there shortly after two am to get to the
convention center, and you can hear the vacuums and you
hear that mixed in with a band still playing and
some slot machines going off. You just kind of stop
(10:23):
and think to yourself, we're living a world that nobody
else is ever living in our business. Like really, there
was nobody else there in the convention center, and so
taking that long walk from the hotel to get all
the way down there, and there was a certain point,
like Wednesday or Thursday, I think we were walking together
and it's just like, man, all right, when are we
(10:45):
going to wrap things up here?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This is It felt like we were a kid walking
by the playground watching all our kids play, and we
were going to like the principal's Oh that's kind of
how it felt. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It was not the most enjoyable, but I mean, look,
you know, big ten media days are there and now
you've got another day coming up today. What is on
the DOCA for today? Is there any special interviews, any
special assignments you've got or is it just kind of
a networking and hanging out with the illuminaries of that conference.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
No, you know, so people know I'm kind of behind
the scenes for TV. All these players and coaches are
one spot. So what TV networks do is they'll come
in a lot of the things that you'll see during
the course of the season. You will see that that
stuff that's taped now, so you'll see what they call
portraits or bumber shots where the players are like flexing
(11:40):
or screaming into the camera and all that that's filmed
at these media days, right because they're all in one spot,
you kind of knock it out over a two three
day period and same thing like a lot of the
interviews will do with coaches. Hopefully that stuff can be
evergreen and a last into the season where there's not
too many changes or you can ask questions at least
from the TV eat side of things that live up
(12:02):
until some of those games, I mean some even until
the end of the regular season. So that's really what
we do now, is we try to get a bit
of a get ahead of a lot of the TV stuff.
So when it comes to the week, do we grind
We don't have to worry about bothering the coach, bothering
the player. We're trying to do an interview.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Then all right, So let's get into the nuts and
bolts of some of the discussion from yesterday. Tony Petiti
is the Big Ten commissioner. There's been this conversation about
expansion of the college Football Playoff for twenty twenty six.
There's the twelve team, they'd like a sixteen team. They've
got the SEC in the mix. ACC and Big twelve
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seem to be paired up together. So Tony Petiti yesterday
spoke about everything that comes along with the discussion surrounding
the college Football Playoff.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Like the revenue share parameters, the Big Ten and SEC's
format control is set forth clearly in the agreement that
all members signed. With respect to format, the Big Ten
has been consistent and strong preference for a playoff system
that allocate spots based on conference standings and the results
of playing games. We want to better connect the regular
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season and the postseason, a critical goal of any postseason
format regardless of sport, is to keep as many teams
alive as deep into the season as possible. We want
more conference games to matter in November. Also, the playoff
format should not function as a disincentive to schedule tough
non conference games. As we said throughout this process, we
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are open to considering any format ideas that come from
our colleagues or the CFP staff, but to be clear,
formats that increased the discretion and role of the CFP
Selection Committee will have a difficult time getting support from
the Big ten.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
All right, So that being said, what the hell are
we looking at when it comes to the expanded College
Football Playoff? Because it feels like the SEC started to
maybe side a little bit with the model that the
ACC in Big twelve was looking at, and now the
Big ten has come out and said, listen, we're just
not going to support that most likely.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
So it's a nuanced conversation. This is always about money,
and I've talked about this before. So the SEC is
pushing a model of the five conference champs, so the
Power four and the highest rank group of five would
get the automatic bids into the College Football Playoff, and
then the other eleven if we expanded to sixteen teams
would be at large bids, meaning the College Fotball Playoff
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Committee would look based on the course of the regular
season and say, you know, these teams are most fit
to make the playoff. Now if we look at last
year and we applied that model, what would be interesting
to look at and see is, you know, would the
College Football Playoff Committee take teams who maybe had a
softer schedule in comparison to an SEC or of Big Ten,
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but teams only lost one or two games. It seems
like that'd be more the direction that they would lean
or go based on the gripes from a lot of
SEC teams who you know, had three losses, for example,
and weren't a part of the playoff. Now in a
sixteen team playoff, maybe it's different. You know, maybe the
SEC gets some of those A large bids that they,
you know, wouldn't have gotten in a twelve team. But
(15:16):
that's what's really it's about. It's about money. The more
teams you get from your conference into the College Football Playoff,
the more money you're gonna get for your conference, you know,
for your school. So there's a push, i think to
some degree for that format and apart from the SEC
because they think they're superior, and even for some of
the other conferences, I think to some degree, because they
feel like if there's more at large bids, there's going
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to be more opportunities for some of those teams to
maybe steal more than only a couple of teams, you know,
for the example. The other format that has been discussed
and talked about is the four to four for Big
ten SEC. It'd be another two each for the Big
twelve an ACC So right there, if you're doing the
math on this and you've got sixteen, that's twelve, So
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you'd have another spot for the highest rank group of
five team that would automatically get in, So those would
be your automatic qualifiers. You know, you'd be done right there,
and you'd be at thirteen. So you only have three
spots for at large bids. And look, you as a
fan might say, I don't really care, or maybe that's
enough Big ten teams, or maybe that's enough big you know,
SEC teams. But the reason, one of the reasons why
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I think the Big ten wants to go at this
format is is if you go with the five conference
champions and then the eleven at large, there's the thought
that no one's going to schedule hard and non conference games.
They're they're going to try to have just a clean
sheet all the way through, and then that's going to
give them the best chance of the best possible chance
of getting the playoff. If you schedule an automatic qualifiers,
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then it kind of comes back to instead of just
worrying about trying to make the college Football Playoff, it's
more about trying to be one of those top four
teams in your conference, at least if you're the Big
Ten or SEC, and if you're the Big twelve or
ACC one of those top two teams. And here's what's
interesting about that model. If you did go with that model,
I think what the Big Ten is proposed or some
people have talked about, is you would have a conference
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championship game one in which we're you know, obviously the
two teams playing for the conference championship one and two
in the conference would automatically be going into the College
Football Playoff. The winner would be the team that most
likely would get a buy if it was fourteen, If
it's sixteen, there's really not as much of an incentive,
but at least you're still winning the conference. If you
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looked at teams three through six, they would be you know,
playing off for those final two spots. So it's kind
of more enticing at least when you look at that
conference championship weekend or how you go about structuring November,
as you heard Tony Petiti talk about, it would make
it more exciting because you'd have three games that are really,
really meaningful. Now, look, there's kind of arguments to all
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these because my counter argument, as I'm saying that right now,
would be, well, you look at last year. You know,
you felt like there was a ton of teams who
are in it because we didn't know who the College
Ball Playoff Committee was going to select and be able
to rank within that group, and we also didn't know
how conference championship weekend was going to play out. So
I gotta be honest with you, like, I'm not sure
how this hits you, and I know that that's a
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lot of talking, but that's where college football's at. There
is a lot of disagreement, there's a lot of confusion.
There's a lot of people who, quite honestly, I almost
feel like they don't they don't even want to deal
with it because they may want to see the twelve
team playoff play out a little bit more before they
make this expansion push.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
That's kind of where I fall in it is it's
a little overwhelming that we got one taste of the
college football Playoff at twelve teams and expanding to that point,
and I felt like people were so in the weeds
with complaints about last year's formats to really sit and
enjoy it. And I just looked at it and said,
a year one, it's expanded, and it's awesome. The fact
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that you're getting to see those home games, the weather
having an impact, getting to be there at the Orange Bowl.
Going into that scene at the Orange Bowl between Notre
Dame and Penn State, I wasn't really sure what to
expect because I thought, Okay, you know, how how is this?
How are they really going to present this to people
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on the outside. Myself didn't have a rooting interest, just
went there to cover the game with you guys, and
then to be there and see the excitement, and I thought, oh,
this is awesome. And the fact that you get more
of these type games in playoff games, meaning moving forward,
I think is great for the sport. And I just
felt like there was too much of, well, what's wrong
(19:38):
with it as opposed to what's right with it? And
that's where now we get to this offseason and instead
of just looking at the twelve team that we're going
to get here and some of the adjustments that they've made,
now we're already talking about sixteen. You've got you know,
the Big Ten campaigning for their side of it. You've
got the SEC doing it. You've got you know, the
ACC and the Big twelve kind of pairing up, and
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it feels like it's overtaking what should be a really
fun season and the expanded playoff. Now we get to
see in year two how teams adjust and how teams
are going to I guess, approach the year with one
year in the bag, one year in the books, and
what does it look like in year two of this
expanded version, as opposed to let's just jump right ahead
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to twenty twenty six and then talk about that. I
just I want to kind of take in year two
and then go from there. And I feel like there's
been a lot in the weeds. And I'm talking to
Petros about this and I was like, man, it's kind
of like the college football offseason is kind of exhausting
because it is about nil. It is about the expanded playoff,
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and you're not hearing a whole hell of a lot
about all right, well, who's supposed to be good this year?
Like who are the players to watch? We've heard a
lot about arch Manning. I can already get the vibe
that he's going to be the guy that's going to
be the lightning rod for hot takes because of the
name and everything that goes along with it. But as
to all of that, all we're talking about is how
do we expand it? How do you fix nil? It's
(21:05):
in the courts, it's played out lead like all of
the other things that come along with it. As opposed to,
hey man, we're going to get expanded playoffs, teams with
an opportunity that maybe wouldn't have had an opportunity to
win a championship, and the seasons right around the corner.
We're a month out, literally a month out from the
season starting. That should be the excitement as opposed to
all the other stuff that's playing to next year and beyond.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I don't know, And look, it's unfortunate, but this is
where college football has been. I mean, it seems like
every single offseason it's conversations about ANIL, it's conversation about
the transfer portal. And there was a ruling yesterday that
we can get to at some point later on that's
going to change the way at least based on the
past week or so schools thought they were going to
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operate with how much money they could spend on a roster.
You know, that war chest of funds just opened back
up yesterday. So that's that's a whole other conversation. All
that being said, college football, just from meeting with these
coaches and players, though, is still in a really great spot.
I mean, I'm always blown away by one just how
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much bigger and more athletic, and like the kids keep
getting like every single time, like every year that goes by,
I'm like, gosh, am I getting smaller, Or like Sonny Styles,
the linebacker for Ohio State, I'm like, my god, like
he's just you see these kids walk by. Jeremiah Smith yesterday,
I'm looking at him like I literally said to him,
(22:33):
I go, hey, I have to come by a house
state that dude. Do I an interview with you and
your coach in like a week or two. I go,
Can we just play catch? Can I just throw to you?
For I just want to get the experience of what
it feels like to throw to someone who's going to
be that talented, who's like the next Randy Moss or
whoever you want to compare him to. That's what strikes
me as But it's just ridiculous when you see these
young men and you're going, I don't remember them looking
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like this back when I played, and so I do
you fall sometimes, not to completely segue to a different
topic to when you hear all these old timers are like, ah,
they couldn't play it back, I'm like, I don't know, man,
these guys are pretty damn elite and athletic and so
much more technically sound and more fundamentally advanced than the
older generations, just with how much specialized coaching they've gone
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and training they've gotten. It never, it never amazes me
every single year just seeing some of the studs that
come through the sport.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Being at the Orange Bowl on the start, like watching
and kind of looking from the crowd and seeing all
the guys that aren't playing that either you know, aren't
in the rotation, aren't good enough to play, or still
working their way into potentially more of a playing more
of a role next year and seeing how big those
guys are, and then it just puts into perspective if
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those guys can't get on the field, what the hell
are the guys on the field like? And you just
you take a step back and you realize, my god,
I just looked up by the way you mentioned sunny styles.
He's twenty years old, he's six four, two thirty five,
so it hasn't even really filled out. And so he's like,
it's just it's a whole nother world. Man, It's a
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whole nother world. And you see, you know, you just
you just think about you know what it takes to
actually get to that. And I'm surprised every time I
see somebody who's an athlete, the difference, like we're both
human beings, yet we're not really the same human being,
Like they're on another level. And so to see that
it's right around the corner is going to be a
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lot of fun. Now, do you have a preference? Do
you have a preference if somebody were to say to you,
are you've got to pick your expanded college football playoff
model for the sixteen team. Do you do you fall
on the side of the five plus eleven or do
you go with the other the other eye.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I think it depends on like I'm not as much
of a fan. Well, I guess there's there's two reasons
why I would be a fan for the four and
four automatic qualifiers for the Big Ten and SEC. Is
if they did do the playing games with the third
through sixth ranked teams. I think it makes a pretty
compelling case where you've got three games that are ultimately
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really meaningful in the Big Ten the SEC, and obviously
you would have you know, a couple of those as well.
And then the problem is with that model, I don't
know how the ACC and the Big twelve would would
handle the automatic qualifiers with two because I mean, you're
gonna have basically your two teams playing in the conference championship,
and if there's two teams going from your conference, you'd
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be saying, well, it's not we can't say the winner
of this game goes and the loser doesn't. But the
problem with that is if you say both teams go,
then there's nothing on the line. So what do you
do to create two games where the winner? I mean,
now you have four teams in the mix for it,
even though they're that fourth team might have three losses
and they're playing the number one team and they've got
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their undefeated. If you catch where I'm going with this,
it gets complicated with how you go about breaking it down,
and so it's it's one of the reasons why I
think I like the five conference champions and the eleven
out amount of qualifiers and that model better. But that's
still without you know, not without issues. Ultimately, when it
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comes down to it, you know, I think what's happened
in this case, and this is not to go on
a diatribe, this is a byproduct of ESPN and what
they've done to college football, and you might think it's good,
you might think it's bad, but this is what's happened.
College football was always a regular season sport. You'd play
your ten games, eleven games back in the day, you'd
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go to a bowl game, and then the AP would
decide who they thought was the national champion. All right.
It evolved from then to then becoming this, Well, now
we're gonna have the BCS, so we have a ranking system,
and that ranking system is going to pair off the
top two teams based on the computer and all these
different models, and even there were some human you know,
votes that were in there too, And we're going to
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decide who the two teams are there, and those two
teams played off for the national champion. That's how we
did it. Then then we expanded to the playoff. We
had four teams playoff for right and now we're to
this point. And what's interesting about out the more we
expand the playoff, it takes away then from the regular season.
It takes away from those non conference matchups because teams,
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as was a talking point yesterday Indiana, go look at
there when you get a chance, their non conference schedule
for the next five years, and look at what they've
done to try to make sure they have an unblemished
record in non conference play just to get to conference play.
And the shots that Kirk Sidnetty took up the SEC
it was great, But more teams are going to do
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that unless you force him to play tougher non conference schedules.
And so what's happening, at least in my opinion, in
college football is ESPN has taken it to make it
more about the college football playoff, which they completely own.
TN t will be a part of it only because
they leave. They they at least, you know, a portion
of it back, but they completely own it. And so
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the SEC is backed by the ESPN, the Accies backed
by ESPN, the Big Twelve who's partially backed by ESPN.
They're all pushing for that model because it really comes
down to what ESPN wants to do, and they want
to highlight the playoff as much as possible because they
have control over that. That's what this is really about.
It's about ESPN trying to manipulate, to me the game
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of college football and change it from being what was
a regular season sport. And we all kind of, you know,
love the matchups, love the robberies, love the history, and
now kind of make it not as consequential only to
the point of, well, you know, how are we getting
that those teams to get in? But once we get
in the playoff, that's what it really matters. That's what's
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happening in college football. Even the conference championship games are
becoming somewhat meaningless, at least as it currently stands, until
we expand to sixteen and so forth.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, I remember the good old days when Beno Cook
would be the only guy pissing people off, like now
you got fine bomb, you get all these guys with
hot takes, and Beno Cook was the old man just
sitting up there, just waxing poetically about who deserved to beware,
who deserve to be ranked here, and then you just
got through it. And then you know, at the end,
it was what was at the AP and the coaches powl.
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You had you had split national championships one year. I
think back in all years, so I.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Remember going to like different schools and you know, teams
were like, oh, yeah, we won a national championship back
in nineteen sixty three, and I was like what why?
Or like even worse this is? This is to be
the worst. They'd be like, oh, go back to nineteen
forty five. I was like, well we weren't. We had
like nineteen forty where we had war during some of
those years. And then they're like, yeah, but we claimed
a national championship. I was like, oh, okay, well I
(29:32):
guess all right, Well there we go.
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(29:56):
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The storyline of the NFL off season and training camp
involving Micah Parsons continues to give us our little dose
of daily tidbits about how negotiations are going. Yesterday, following
the day of Jerry Jones discussing not really having much
thought or care about Micah's deal and getting it done
(32:56):
at least publicly and speaking with the media at training camp,
Micro respond and spoke with the media yesterday about the
situation himself.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Cowboys want to get a deal done.
Speaker 10 (33:05):
Yeah, I mean, honestly, you know, uh, you know, for me,
it really don't matter. Like I said, I've been pretty consistent.
If they don't want me here, they don't want me here.
I go around my business. I understand the nature of
the business. Like I said, as long as I'm hearing
an under contract, I'm gonna do what I have to
do to perform at the highest level. But this is then,
this is then, you know, there's there's the same way
(33:26):
that Jones, j Jones and Stephen Jones and the other
j Jones take care of their family, It's the same
way I need to take care of my family, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I got my own three.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
Kids to my own, so we all need to take
care of their own family. At the end of the
lather got for each other, but stuff gets set in
the media.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Have you had a conversation with Malcaster's presser.
Speaker 10 (33:43):
No, but I'm I'm gonna talk to you know, I
just thought as a whole, like, you know, everyone's situation
is differently, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
At the end of the day, Like, I'm here for
my teammates.
Speaker 10 (33:54):
You know, I'm not here to please another grown man.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm here for them. You know.
Speaker 10 (33:58):
I want to be here with Trey watching rehab, watching
on the field, watch his group. I want to be
here at bat On La Terrence still like I'm here
for these guys.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I'm not here for him, you know.
Speaker 10 (34:07):
So I think, you know, I think at the end
of the day, he's on the field with us. You know,
we're on the field playing the games and things like that.
So I'm gonna just control my teammates, keep boosting it,
and you know, we're just gonna keep playing together.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So there's the uh, the latest from Micah Parsons. So,
by the way, I was able to speak yesterday, he
just wasn't able to practice because he had some back tightness.
Hate when that happens.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say that's that back tightness lingers sometimes,
especially when you're waiting on a contracts touching Hi.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I mean he seems he seems a little bit annoyed
with the situation, to say the least.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And Jerry, Well, did that sound like he was looking
for a contract? I mean, I just I keep going
back to the words of one LeVar Arrington about looking
for a contract or not and all that. It sounds
like he is. Sounds like he's looking for one. If
he doesn't get it, he'd rather go somewhere else and play.
But that being said, this is just all part of
the game, and it I mean, there's two schools of thought.
(35:07):
When you're a player and you're looking for a new deal.
It used to be back in the olden days you
wouldn't show up and if that's the case, then you'd
be subject to fines. Now most of those things would
get wiped away and they'd be part of the negotiation
when you came back for the new deal, and most
teams are understanding of that. Now this gets into that
(35:28):
word collusion, because we've seen a lot of organizations be
able to then now say well, we're actually not going
to do that anymore. We've decided that this is the
rules within the CBA. We're going to apply the rules,
and if you don't want to show up, don't show up.
You're going to find And so what players have done
to circumvent that is they've said, ah, my hamstrings are tight,
(35:49):
Oh my blower backs tight. Oh you know, I'm feeling sick,
I'm under the weather. They've done some things too to
counter that to where now they're present and they're there,
and now on top of that, they're speaking to the media,
which puts a little more pressure on the ownership or
the coaching staff and the general manager have to speak
(36:09):
to the media too during training camp and answer those questions.
So it's been a battle of how you go about
managing it in front of the media as opposed to
it in the olden days, just trying to be away
and then try to let that team like look at
the roster without you on it, and how they would then,
you know, feel about what this team looks like moving forward.
(36:30):
But you know, again, times have changed, and I think
they'll get a deal done. I know Jery, you know,
doesn't want to lose one of the best defensive players
in the league, and they're not going to trade them away.
I'd be shocked if that actually happened. So this deal
will get done. This is just a hard ball that
the the hardball that to Jones' family likes to play,
and it's a hard ball that you know, really Mike
has got to play where I would again assume this
(36:52):
back tightness is going to extend for another few days
or so until something's done.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I mean, they don't have to do a deal, you know,
they don't. I mean, he is under contract, so it's
not like they have to do a deal. I just
think how this is going to go is because the part,
you know, Todd Archer's report that they haven't even spoken
with Mike's agent, David mullagedto like, haven't even had a
conversation about any of this. And I go back to
(37:17):
that and I think, all right, so here's how this works.
We're going to see a report come out maybe in
the next couple of weeks, and it's gonna say report
the Cowboys, according to sources, have opened up negotiations with
Micah Parsons agent, and then it just slowly starts to
build from there and ultimately, even though they don't have
to get a deal done, I can't imagine this gets
(37:40):
into the regular season. Although didn't Dak Prescott sign his
contract shortly before the opener last year the year before,
So I mean, we got all the time of the
world for stuff to bleed out and trickle out. But
Mica does seem like he's a little bit frustrated with
everything and Jerry's comments, like when he said, like, what
did you make of Jerry's comment? Way, I'm going to
(38:00):
talk to him, Like, I just wonder what that discussion
is going to be like, because Jerry's going to figure
out a way to smooth it over and then probably
hand him another offer and Okay, let's just get this done.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I also find it interesting that he brought up, you know,
being here for Trey, you know, talking about Trayvon Digs. Yeah,
and that was one of the other players that Jerry
took a shot at, right, we know, like what he
did in regards to his contract and de escalated, you know,
one of the incentives in his contract because he didn't
show up for the offseason rehab and he's been publicly
talking about that. So it was interesting that the way
(38:31):
Micah phrased everything, saying, Hey, I'm here and I'm not
here for him. I'm here for my teammates. I'm here
for Trey, I'm here for others. You know, also a
player who's probably frustrated with what's transpired this offseason. I
granted different circumstance. I mean, that's on Trayvon Diggs for
choosing to rehab where he rehabbed, and that's look, that's
in his best interest, I'm sure his, or at least
I should say, I hope his agent was making him
(38:53):
aware that this was within his contract and within the
potential of happening. You know, you're going to be subject
to losing this amount of mine money or your ability
to earn this amount of money if you're not with
Dallas rehabbing. So a little different set of circumstance. But
it was interesting that Mike almost in a way took
up for him. And you know, he's talking about being
their form rehabbing. I mean, m is to be on
(39:15):
the playing field. I think as soon as his contract
gets done, you know that back's magically going to feel better.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I also look at it like so clearly you know
he's probably taken this a little personal, and there could
be a thought to, well, don't take it personal. This
is just how this goes. This is business in the NFL.
But I could understand why players would take some of
this stuff personal, like especially the first time around. Maybe
if he's looking for a second contract. I you know,
I could understand, I've been through this before, but I
(39:41):
could understand why you would take this personal. Like I
never like, I'm never surprised when you hear a player
or somebody talk like this. There was that old story
that Derek Jeter his final negotiation with the Yankees, he
took it personal because he felt like they were trying
to place a value on him. We're ignoring everything that
he had done throughout the course of his career. And
(40:03):
I just think sometimes on the outside fans look at
this stuff and go, oh, well, you know, big deal.
This is just part of it. You're going to be
paid a lot of money, Like, you know, why would
you have hurt feelings? I get it, Like, I could understand,
especially he's young dude in his early twenties, trying to
look out and secure his future financially. I could understand why,
(40:23):
based on what he's done in his resume thus far,
that he would take umbrage with Jerry Jones's comments. I
totally understand it makes sense to me so, but ultimately
they will get a deal done and then we will
find out and figure out something else we can discuss
when it comes to the Dallas Cowboys. Per usual, it
is two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here on
Fox Sports Radio, Brady Coin, Jonas Knox with you here.
(40:44):
Coming up next though, we are going to pay tribute
and we are going to do it with maybe the
best version of this song that you've ever heard, and
it's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 6 (41:44):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
not lead to Lap, the one and only Justin Cooper.
Let's go, Yes, thank you very much.
Speaker 9 (42:02):
That's pretty yeah, Coop, all right, Well, you know, not
to change the mood, but I'm sure you guys saw
that the legend Ozzy Osbourne passed away at seventy six
years old.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
That was a bummer yesterday.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
It was it kind of hit it hit me. I
was kind of surprised, how like I was, like, you know,
because he kind of kind of knew it was coming.
But I mean, he just had that awesome farewell concert
a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
He's cool. What do you mean you knew it was well?
I was gonna say, like I did have someone that
was talking to you yesterday though, Man, do you remember
when he was on that show and he was having
a hard time kind of moving around talking. Then they're like,
that was like twenty years ago. Yeah, they're like, so
it to your point, I mean it, I don't know
if it was a surprise.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I mean, he lived a great life, but he lived
a hard life.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Man.
Speaker 9 (42:50):
Yeah, that's right, he did.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But snorted up a row of ants in front of
Moley Crew.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You list everything he did, you know, list every single thing.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, that was They were like, you know, trying to
see who could out do the other ones. And he
got down. So there was some popsicle stick left over
at a pool at a hotel they were staying at,
and the there was like a trail of ants, and
so Ozzie got down on all fours and snorted a
row of ants.
Speaker 9 (43:23):
Well not only yeah, not only was he a legend
in the music world, but he was also a legend
in the sports world, isn't that? Isn't that right? Jonas?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (43:32):
Nice? One of the all time best renditions that we
have here.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
The seventh inning stretch at Wrigley Field back at three.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
And Ozzie Osborne.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
All right, Cicatto, that's I want to hit a real,
real crazy crowd.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Stop singing are you ready?
Speaker 9 (43:55):
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I can't hear you?
Speaker 9 (43:58):
Are you ready.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Too?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And how many years ago was this?
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Three, that's what I'm saying. This was twenty two years ago.
He lived a good life.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, if you would have told somebody he's got twenty
he's got twenty two more of these to go.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah. I mean he was getting a
lot of help in the show at that time. I
feel like there was a lot of help for him.
So it again, blessings out to the family. And that's tough.
That's always tough to lose someone you love.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
I think he was five years ago he got diagnosed
with it's not Parkinson's, but it's something similar to Parkinson's.
And then he just played that concert mentioned a few
weeks ago, and it was a who's who from rock
and metal that was there that were performing with him.
And so to see him get to go out one
last time, he was emotional at the time. Hell of
a run for Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 9 (45:13):
What else we got, Coop, Well, I'm sure you guys.
You guys might have talked about this already, but I
wanted to bring it up because it kind of kind
of plays into my world a little bit. Adrian Peterson
started training for his celebrity boxing match. Now maybe a
month or two ago, there was some viral video out
of him at a poker game getting into an argument
(45:34):
with a fellow player and starting to throw some throw
some hands. And now they're going to do it on
an official basis. But yeah, this tends to happen at
poker games, even though you know the home games.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Have you have you? How many fights have you seen
at a poker tournament coop? Because you're a degenerate poker player.
You're just in Vegas, not that long ago, that is
trueading were you? It was the world's here, he's a poker,
that is correct.
Speaker 9 (46:02):
You don't see it happen a lot at tournaments, but
these these cash games that are just you know, hosted
by random people and random houses, it happens. It happens
somewhat often. I've seen it, seen it a few times.
I haven't seen it go like crazy. But there was
this one time that this this old dude, he almost died.
(46:23):
What do you mean, Well, there was this there was
this kind of bigger guy playing and this old guy
who also, by the way, was like a little handicap.
He had a cane, he could barely walk, and he's
just he's drunk and starts telling the bigger dude. He
starts calling you fat bleepity bleep, and the big guys like,
(46:45):
you call me that one more time, and I'm kinda like,
put hands on you. And the old crippled guy didn't care.
He said it one more time. The other guy got
up shoved. There's like a three hundred pound difference here,
just shoves him and he goes flying and his head
just barely misses the kitchen counter by like an inch.
(47:05):
And you're at these tournaments, yeah, yeah, that was. That
was in the beginning of my poker days, and that
kind of scared me a little bit, and I was like,
what am I doing? But now I'm kind of used
to it.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
What place did the cripple used to it?
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Because it happens all the time, Coop.
Speaker 9 (47:18):
You know, people drink at these games and they're taking
money from people.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
It happens, Brady, how about the fact that Coop's trying
to win money from a cripple at a card game.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
I love what you go. I get used to it. Oh,
it happens all the time.
Speaker 9 (47:32):
He's there, his money, he's up for grabs.
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