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The guys talk about the latest from Big Ten media days, the Packers opening up their books to reveal over $432M in revenue share and discuss how the NFL will continue to grow revenues and when/how the bubble could burst, juicing allegations in ICYMI, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio.
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Thursday edition, we have got tails from the Road.
Brady Quinn is back from Big Ten media days in
Las Vegas. Interesting tidbits, including one quarterback in the conference
who couldn't shut up, and we've got conversations to be
had about airline behavior that we will get into. We're

(00:23):
also going to have a discussion about what really matters
in the state of Ohio, especially when it comes to football.
We will discuss the very latest on the Miami Dolphins
and what could be a little bit of a dicey
relationship moving forward between Tuatukabailoa and his top receiver, Tyreek Hill.
The Great Albert Brear is gonna stop by. We've got
another edition of In case you missed it, and in

(00:45):
that we've got steroids allegations against Lebron James. Plus we're
going to finish up with Coops leftovers. It's all yours
coming up next here. Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe on a Thursday, Fox Sports Radio. You bet your

(01:06):
sweet ass Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox
Sports Radio that guy right over there is Brady Quinn.
I'm Jonas Knox.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
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we take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, and uh we got all
sorts of fun stuff to get into today back from Vegas.

(01:41):
Oh yeah, I don't know if you feel the same
way I do. Uh Yeah, there's that.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Not as uh not that like just natural feeling of
guilt or whatever it may be, whether you lost too
many hands, a black chain, or you know, went to
places you shouldn't have went to, stayed up too late.
And this is a work trip for me, so none
of that was the case. I'm just glad to be home,
that's all.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, it lands a little bit different when you're going
out there for your twenty first birthday or something like that.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yeah, those days are over for me. Like I've said
this before, every time I go to Vegas. Now it's
a work trip, and I know some people are like
a loser I'm like, yeah, well, trust me, dude, I
had my fun times like I had by plenty of
fun times in my younger days.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'm good now, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
So work trip was the big ten media days. Any
juicy stuff come out of that or was it basically,
you know, Kurt Signetti trying to piss off SEC fans
and everything else that came along with it.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, it's funny too.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
In the interview when I sat down with him, he goes,
I'm trying to be a little more boring this time.
I was like, well, I'm your first interview, So I
was like, I wish I got you later on in
the day because I know that's usually when you start
you start to turn things up a little bit. He
just kind of laughed. He's great, honestly. He is one
of the many personalities in college foot ball that make
the sport great, and you can see why players want

(03:03):
to play for him because he's the type of guy that, yeah,
if he's gonna be out there talking trash or whatever,
he's saying like, he's on your team and he's gonna
talk trash for you too, So I love sick.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
He's a he's a good ball coach too. Man.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
That's one thing I'll know about some of these guys
is they are they can back it up. They're not
just you know, guys who will say outlandish things from
time to time.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
They will back it up.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
So we were talking earlier this week and one of
the questions kind of thrown out. And we'll have plenty
more on the NFL's dollar general the Cincinnati Bengals coming
up later, but we I kind of threw out the
question like what are you the Bengals with, Like what
do you what do you frugal with? And you pointed
out air travel, like you're like, yeah, listen, I don't mind.
I'll sit on Spirit, I'll sit on Southwest. I'll sit

(03:45):
on And from my understanding, you did take Southwest ye
to and from So how uh how did that go?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
The talk about the cattle call the.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Around up group by over around uh, everyone, get on nuts,
get on in there, sit and sitting.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Down that twenty I check in twenty four hours before
scam that Southwest puts together.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
What a bunch of crap.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I was a group though.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I'll stand next to our guy and we look
over like the A one through fifteen, there's one guy
in the entire thing, and he was like, ah.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
We should we get get a good seat.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
So, you know, I try to sit exit row because
that's really most leg room you can get for the
plane's not even full, and this couple like it's we're
not even halfway there boarding. This couple comes and sits
down like middle seat. I'll seat like right there, neggs
in roath me, and I'm thinking myself, oh, I played
this one dad like like no other row. And the

(04:45):
entire plane was full besides hours, and I started kind
of looking around, thinking all right, maybe I should move,
but I stayed put. I'm like, all right, I'm fine,
I've got a good leg room. I'm kind of nestled
in here like I'm good. And then a couple with
an infant sits right behind me.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Now I love that.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I'm fully tolerant of this because I've got an infant.
Now I've got five. The bad thing about me is
I'll start judging. I'm sitting there, like listening to what
they're doing when the baby's crying, and the mom was
like explaining out loud to everything she's doing wrong and
apologizing to the baby for it.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
And I'm like, geez, just feed the poor little guy.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
I think she scratched it at one point, and the
baby started crying pretty loud, to the point where like
everyone's kind of noticing now and she's.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Like, oh, I'm sorry, I scratched you.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I was like, Oh, the baby doesn't care, dude, Just
like get it a bottle, get it in a pass
far or something. But the best part about the baby
was impeccable timing. As soon as we start to take off,
that smell of like an infant crap just it permeates
throughout all the rows and it's one of those where

(05:56):
we're taking off, so obviously they can't get up and
go change or do anything.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
And then as we get up to.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Our cruising altitude is they like to tell you there's
a little bit turbulence, so we're gonna keep the flight
attendants in their seats and you guys can't go to
the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I was like, oh, this is gonna stink for a
good half an hour.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
So the people next to us, you know, they're they're
closing their nose, people around like little kids, and.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
What's that smell? What's that smell?

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Mom?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
The real thing was an absolute scene.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, it is one of those things you don't really
have empathy for parents in that situation until you become
a parent and you're in that situation, and then we
go God, I regret ever judging. I regret ever having
a bad attitude about it. Because the first one of
the first times we took my son on a flight,
it was it was it south I forget what it was,

(06:46):
but they had to make an emergency landing because they
ran out of oxygen because some lady had a stroke
in the back of the plane. So we were going
from LA to Chicago, so they had to stop in Wichita,
and we're there, and of course it takes way longer
than they expected, and so by that time, you know,
he's we had to wake him up from his nap

(07:08):
that he had just started. He's in the airport, and
the last trip, I think it was probably like an
hour twenty minutes from Wichita to Chicago.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Full blown outrage. Just could not completely lost it.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
You got the and and my wife and I are
look at each other like, I mean, I don't know,
like we got there's not a whole lot of options here.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
He doesn't want to hear anything. So yeah, it's runs
to the jeans. I mean, I've seen you be like
that after losing on the final leg of a six
leag parlay.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Listen the behavior at Keenlan. Okay, Like I thought, I
thought we handled the losing. After the first race, we
won pretty well. Okay, I thought we kept detected.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I thought that was gonna be a big day for us.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
One thing, though, and I want to give you a
lot of credit because look, there are times when you well,
you're you're not right very often betting. But there are
times though when we talk about things and you are right,
just not in the betting world, I guess us.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
I digress.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
When we landed, it felt like the seat of like
that I was on in the plane was landing on
the runway, it really did feel like the plane was broken.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, and almost bottomed out.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, And I'm glad. Look and it's like, yeah, you
get there safely. It's I'm assuming passed all the tests
it needs to pass. But both landings, and just from
Burbank to Vegas is fifty five minutes or whatever it is.
Landing in Vegas felt like we went nose down. Landing
back in Burbank felt the same way, and how do you.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Test landing besides landing, you know what I'm saying, like,
what's the what's the test of running there to be
like oh yeah, those should be good.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah, well how do we know?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah it's and look, I'm grateful anytime you get there safely,
totally grateful, but there there are times where you're traveling
going yeah, this is just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
I was like very thankful when we landed and I
realized we didn't bottom out, so yeah, okay, and by
the way, the ground screw is actually there ready to go,
brought us in.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
We got in late.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
We got in about one thirty am, which I wasn't
even I didn't realized they even had flights that got
in that late in the morning, especially in Columbus. But
like there's some airlines, you know, they don't get in
past you know, midnight. But I was like, all right, well,
drag flight, so I'll have to take it on the
good old cattle car a cattle call of the guys.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Are they doing seat chet, seat assignment chet? When does
that start?

Speaker 2 (09:29):
No, they didn't for this one.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
And you know, every once in a while, like you
get surprised by some of these discount of airlines.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
But they've got like a new plane, and it.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Just it makes it hit a little different because you
walk on you know, it's like you're it's like when
you go get an uber and you know you're getting
like the cheaper version of one, but you get like
a nice car and it smells nice, ver nice, like.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Gum and cologne and the seat pocket in front of them.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, you go yourself locked out on this one. I'm
kind of play with house money here, and uh, that
was that wasn't the way out. We had a newer plane.
Then it was nice, you know, I had like the
mood lighting and just ac actually worked. And then this
one was not that. Like I sat down in my
seat and I thought this has to be like a
fifty year old plane.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
It looked so I was like, do you even have
Wi Fi?

Speaker 4 (10:11):
And honestly, when the baby crap was like, yeah, you
can probably lean on the floor, Like this thing is
probably gonna be retired soon.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, it's it is.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Uh, you know, air travel can be a little bit
dicey at times. I am wondering, though, did you get recognized,
because I'm sure people are sitting next to you going
like that was part of the reason why they probably
wanted to sit next to you.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
That in the like, I think I had a couple
of folks from it must have been from La or something,
because they were wearing masks and they were one.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Of the point wearing mats. Good point, not judging. That's
so i'mprogative.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'm just saying I think they might have, you know,
eventually been through them from California. But that being said,
there was a couple of people. But usually people are
pretty cool, pretty nice about it. You know, they're like, oh,
here for Big ten many days yep, and they'll be
like so the High State text scan was like, yeah,
we tried to move it, and they're like, yeah, we
heard that.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's like couldn't get a moved.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Now people are still about that, huh buddy.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I try to Here's the thing, you coastal elites don't understand.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
What life's really like in the midwester or and like
other parts of the country. I try to explain that
to our bosses at Fox. I'm like, i feel like
I'm standing up like in front of a firing squad
half the time when people are like, hey, man, what
did you And I'm like whoa, whoa pause. I didn't
I didn't do anything like I'm just I show up
when they tell me to go. Man, that's that's the

(11:29):
extent of my really job with that. But no, I
mean in Austi like there was, there were, there were,
you know things during the course of the Big ten
Media days, because there's a lot of business that goes
on outside of that where you know, Ohio State and
some of those conversations that's still going on in regards
to and some of the other schools too, how we

(11:50):
can make this work for you. And the crazy thing
is this is a combination of the Big ten Media
rites deal that was put into place by Kevin Warren
that Tony Pettiti now has taken over. And even if
the networks aren't happy necessarily with the agreement how it's working,
it's not like the Big ten's coming back to try

(12:10):
to rip it up and change it.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Because if they were to make some alterations to.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
It, it would be it would look like a win
for the network side, for the TV side.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
So what do you think the Big ten would want
more money? Right?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
They would want something in exchange back for trying to
rip up this agreement. Even though your TV partners may
not be overly happy with how things are going. So
it's a bizarre set of circumstances. That's one of the
things you kind of learned when you're out there at
these conference media days.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Is Tony Pettiti, who obviously took over for Kevin Warren,
as you mentioned, Kevin Warren doing a phenomenal job with
the Bears. Stadium's coming along great. I mean, listen, stadium's
coming along great. The renderings with no parking lot were great.
They were awesome, and so maybe they'll get that figured
out sometime by the twenty forty is when that should
get done.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
But what do you get Are you able to talk
with him.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Or get a read on Is he thrilled with the
way the big tent was set up when he took
over after Kevin Warren left or did he look at
it and go all right, we got some problems here, Like.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
I think they're happy with the amount of money they're
making from it, that that ultimately is kind of what
you're measured bying in a lot of these cases. You know,
are you are you continuing to progress, you know, for
your schools, for you know, the people you represent for it,
So I don't think they have any issues with that.
I think that the idea of what they have been
sold on and you know, three networks in particular that

(13:33):
currently have the NFL and then looking at it like
an NFL schedule, I think that was the vision for it.
The difference is, you know, there's just more flexibility with
all of it on Sundays with the NFL, and I
think one of the hardest things is the lack of
flexibility not only with the Big Ten but amongst the
other networks. So there's just there's a lot of a
lot of things still to be sorted out. It's it's

(13:54):
early on then and then in the TV rights agreement,
so I think as this goes on, maybe some of
the partners can become more flexible.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
But I mean, I could say this much.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Fox has the best games of anyone within it, but
there's not a lot of flexibility to move around you know,
those games into different spots. So it's unfortunate. And again
I'll just get out ahead of some of this stuff.
There's games that come in October or guess what. Fox
has the World Series, So they're gonna put the World
Series in primetime Now I gave my best effort because

(14:25):
I'm not that big into America's pastime to watch. Loved
playing it, I really did. I loved playing baseball. Not
that big into watching on TV, all right. I would
admit that even as a Fox guy, And I said,
why can't we make, you know, make the World Series
into an afternoon you know, nice nice Saturday afternoon game,
Like why does it need to be under the lights?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Does the World Series have to be in prime time.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
One oh seven Eastern time, first pitch?

Speaker 6 (14:52):
You know?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
And what's wrong with that? Let's let's get let's get
a college football. I mean, I'll put it this way.
What do you think is going to rate higher?

Speaker 4 (15:00):
By the way, I will give you Yankees Dodgers Game
three or four of the World Series versus let's just
say Ohio State Penn State, because that was that was
the game last year.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
They got the Penn State fan base all up in arms.
What's going to rate higher? Oh geez?

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I mean, if LeVar was here, I would say, for sure,
the World Series, But.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
I actually think it's a house state. Penn State ends
up having a bigger viewership.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, no, probably, I mean, look, people and people don't like, look,
I love baseball, love it, and I watched way too
much of it, you know, probably to admit on the
air for anybody out there.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
My son and I watch it way too much.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Wait, how aout the Cubs?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Huh Yeah, not great yesterday? I mean, look, you know yesterday,
But I mean it's better than last year.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah. No, it's definitely better than last year. It's better
in a lot of years.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But you're halfway through season. You still have hopes.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, absolutely, one of the best records in baseball, just
a game behind. But the Brewers will not lose.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
The like that is you talk about a story that
we need to be more discussed more openly. The Brewers
will not lose. And the Cubs are the team that
paid Craig Counsel, your guy from Notre Dame eight plus
million dollars, reset the market from major League Baseball when
it comes to manager's salary, and the Brewers just promoted
their assistant and after all of that are still leading

(16:15):
the division. So not great, But I love baseball. I'm
a huge baseball fan. The fact of the matter is
the NFL is the number one sport, college football's number two, period,
and people can argue for the NBA, They can argue
for whatever sport they want to throw out there. Those
are just the facts, and it doesn't feel like it's
slowing down anytime soon. College all this talk about Belichick's

(16:39):
personal life and all the other things going on. Did
you see the report out North Carolina has sold out
every ticket, all their tickets, all their single game tickets
that fans cannot wait for that And for all this
complaining about, well, you've got Ohio State in Texas and
it's a new and eastern time kick and why can't
they move it to later? Man, do you know how
awesome that scene is going to be? Like it's probably

(17:00):
gonna be hot as balls, but do you know how
awesome that scene is going to be? I just think
there are so many cool storylines, events moments in college
football throughout the year that no other sport, including the NFL,
can match. Like there is something about that college football
environment and just being around it and the scene and

(17:20):
the way that you guys do. And this is not
to ball wash Fox, but the way that it's presented
feels big, like it does feel big on TV, and
so to see that we're right around the corner from that,
like people can get upset about it and say, well,
you know what about baseball and the world I totally agree.
I think if you put a World Series game on
against a college football game, I think more people are

(17:42):
going to watch.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
That college football game. I really do.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Sorry, and I don't know who that offends, but tough balls.
It is what it is.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Last year was an all year though for the World
Series with the Yankees Dodgers, and that was kind of
your perfect world your dream matchup, and I think that
averaged around fourteen million, maybe fifteen millions, so that was
like the high watermark.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
But I think if you went over like the last ten.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Years or something like that, and that's where I kind
of bring up, you know, if it's like Milwaukee versus
let's just say my my, you know, Guardians are in
or something like that. When you when you look at
some of the matchups, you're like, all right, this could
be literally a stinker. So why not, I mean, why
not make America's pastime America's pastime. Le Let's just go
put it on at you know, one o'clock, two o'clock

(18:26):
in the afternoon, and we'll roll right into a nice
little uh nice night game one of those. I'm trying, man,
I'm trying. I wish I wish college football fans, in
particular Penn State Ohios Day because they seem to have
the biggest issue with it. I wish they understood how
much we push to, you know, help elevate the sport,
even within our own network, you know, to get like

(18:49):
executives who, yes, they're college football fans, but they are
also baseball fans, they are also NFL fans. We we
do the best we can to try to explain why
we feel like college football is the best, and it's
It's tough, man, it's a tough battle sometimes.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
By the way, what is Penn What are Penn State
fans bitching about? You really want more people.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
To see you lose?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I mean, like like it was away tucked me away
at Newton Eastern Time. Please, I don't want to see
I don't know everybody to see what's happening to us
that you're in and you're out against Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
By the way, side, note, I'm not gonna say what
player it was. This was an all time first and
it was one of the funniest things. So typically when
you sit down with kids, do an interview. You know,
some of the kids are are younger, some are older,
some are experienced on interviews, some just have a personality
for it, and some don't. Well, I'll say this much.

(19:38):
There was one quarterback, so I sit down and I
asked him a very generic, you know, question about his
path to kind of the team he's on, and he,
without exaggeration, speaks for six minutes straight. I mean it
was like answering questions that were never asked. I just
just it was like a wind up doll. I mean,

(19:58):
he just went and I'm trying in my head so
hard not to laugh because I'm thinking this is gonna
be impossible for someone to edit tak it you a
TV clip because he's talking for six minutes straight, and
like I mean for people at home, you'd like like
a twenty second sound.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
By thirty second maybe especially on TV, that's actually a
long time.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
So I'm thinking to myself, just don't laugh, don't laugh,
And I can feel everyone else in the room is like,
oh my gosh, he's still going like this is unbelievable.
And there's like there's a guy who was who's guy.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
His name is Mark. He was working with audio there
was like one of those.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Boom mics that that hangs down and he needed to
adjust it. So he's holding it manually holding it and
his arms are starting to shape at the point where
now I'm like distracted by the boom mic because it's
like jiggling right over his head and I don't know
if he's.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Gonna drop it on it, what's gonna happen. And I'm
just like, I'm like, should I cut him off?

Speaker 4 (20:55):
I don't know if I can cut him off, because
there's not really a time to cut him off. His
cadence was so quick. I as soon as the interview
was done, you know, I stood up, shook his hand,
he walks out, and I turned and looked at one
of the guys with our producers, and we just started
dying laughing because I'm like, I've never seen anyone first
time meeting them just talked for that long without really

(21:16):
being prompted to.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
It was incredible. And this was a quarterback. It was
a quarterback because I'm looking here and LeVar played linebacker.
So something doesn't experience I've experienced. I don't know what
something's up here.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Wasn't a die tribe though about their times.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
You know, uh that the guy holding the boom mic shaking.
It's like one of those guys test.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
As soon as the kid took a breath, he okay,
let'll just get in here, and just like the thing
dropped that he picks it back up and kind of
gets it, you know, reacquainted on the stand. But it
was it was one of the funniest I mean, there's
there's a lot of the funny stuff that kind of
takes place.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Put it this way. We've got some uh, some analysts out.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
There, you guys are gonna watch on TV, and one
of them, let's just say he gets after it all right,
Oh yeah, naming names of boozehound.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Oh really?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Oh so he took in the sights and sounds of
Vegas then just sipping and ripping.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Good for him.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I just say, you had a good time, had a
good time.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Interesting, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I didn't expect that from Liner so crazy. Uh it
is two pros and a couple there. Yeah yeah, Liner
wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, those guys don't show up for this that stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
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(23:02):
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(24:42):
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from now. Right now, though, it is time for the
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Speaker 2 (25:24):
With a second, so.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
We're picking the highlight that we already played today for
Freddy's walkoff. Meanwhile, you know what, Tani hit his home
running in for the fifth straight game.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
It's not going a Dodgers record.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, but I mean at this point and maybe people
are bored with it, you know, Okay, I see what
we're doing here.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
No, I'm just a just setting Dodgers records games around.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Hey, don't even don't even bring up the subject of
o Tani. Yeah, please don't. Coops and Angels fan, Coops
and Angels.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Sorry about that, pal, I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, Coop wants Otani back in prison down in Anaheim.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Steady said he got out. No, no, he's a superstar.
That's true, that is true. How they managed to screw
that up?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Coop?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
You always got to have a fall guy. I mean,
but you want to know.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
One of the great stories about after Otani left the Angels,
So did you hear did you hear that story that
when they had to do the team picture, they Otani
wasn't there for the team picture, And I forget the circumstances,
he just wasn't available. So they dressed up a white
guy in Otani's uniform and put him out there with

(26:40):
the team to make it seem like it was Otani.
I swear to God on that story, that's the Angels.
I swear to god they had a fake Otani and
the team picture because it was there was some sort
of and I don't know if it was like he
was going through negotiations or what. They were doing, but
there was some sort of a team photo and they
had like.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Some looking at it.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Now, yeah, they had some guy from the coaching staff
take part in the picture and pretend to be Otani
and the guy he was white. They couldn't even get
that part right. That is that's coops angels man. So
though you know, you're fine, they've they've still got Mike Trout,

(27:21):
so there's nothing wrong there. By the way, how about
the Green Bay Packers who are just getting paid, just
getting paid. This was a story that came out that
the Packers revealed their national national revenue sharing from the
previous fiscal year four hundred and thirty two point six
million dollars.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Mark Murphy was quoted as saying, I'm amazed by the
popularity the NFL, et cetera, et cetera. When Murphy took
over the team, the NFL's revenue share was one hundred
and thirty eight million at the time, and that was
eighteen years ago. So in two days decades we've seen
it jump three hundred million dollars I mean, good fate.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
That's only, by the way, sixty percent of the revenue
for the team. That's the national revenue, so that the
local and all the ls that they get the pocket
for themselves.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
And that's the other forty percent.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Jesus, think about that for a second, Jesus, And just
in case you're wondering, because you know the whole WNBA
subject we talked about earlier this week, and how that
league can't even run a profit. The Packers alone, who
are not a big market, even though they are a
very storied franchise and there's there's a Packers fans all

(28:39):
across the country. They run an eighty three point seven
million dollar operating profit that's up almost twenty four million
from last year.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
So and look it. I know, I know that we've
asked when's the bubble gonna burst? I just I don't
see it. I don't I don't know when. I don't
know when the.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
League starts to slip and fall back.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I don't know when that happened.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Maybe I'm missing something and I'm too brainwashed by the NFL,
but I just don't see any sign of them slowing
down anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
You know, I'm with you. I don't think the bubble
will burst.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
I do think it's gonna get painful for fans who
are consumers, and they're trying to figure out ways of
you know, buying.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
All access to the NFL. I mean, what's that gonna
cost this year?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Isn't like over like a couple of grand or something
to be able to have access to every single game
because all the different you know, either streaming services says
you have to purchase, or the NFL sudden they ticket
like everything else, you have to purchase to be able
to get that.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
It's not cheap.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
And I think that's where the bubble bursts because right
now it's your broadcast partners or literally your.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
TV who have the rights.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
But you know, your stream partners want to get involved,
and they're willing to throw stupid money, I mean stupid
money just to be able to get in. ESPN has
already gone on a record and said they want more
of the NFL and they're gonna throw stupid money at it.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
So did you see the report yesterday there and talks
about buying the red Zone and ether and basically getting
those NFL network games.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
They're gonna gonna go for two billion or something like that.
Here is that what I saw.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
I didn't see the actual price attached to it.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
But go look that up.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
I think, I think because I was walking with someone
who was reading an article said, yeah, it's gonna go
for like two billion or something a year.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I mean a billion with a B. It's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
And and by the way, how does how does that
network be able to recoup the money either through subscription fees? Right,
so you are paying for their cable service or streaming
service that your monthly subscription, which will go up because
they have to figure out a way of passing that
on to the consumer, or it's going to be through
advertising dollars that will go up on you know, their

(30:48):
their cable slash you know, ABC's broadcast on your television partner,
so they have to you know, increase what it's going
to cost for advertising parts.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Andrew Marshan says it's going to be approximately two billion
dollars for that About those games, which I'm assuming are
those European games, the games they play overseas, all that
and then.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
The europcuts get two billion a year and we think
about that.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, you know, by the time the gut cuts, you know,
like it's just the whole, the whole thing on you
there unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, I was not expecting that, Like I was, I was,
I was expecting a ninety five. Instead, you went a
little punch truck here, eighty two low and away.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Kind of long thirty hours.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
So uh but yeah, it's just it's like you so
you've got Red Zone, You've got those games, and they're
willing to pay two billion for it, and I just like,
it's the place everybody wants to be, Like it's it's
where everybody is at.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
And I, you know, I go back to like the.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Lloyd Howell stuff in the NFL p A, and I
just wonder how many how many players actually care about
it or they just look at it as like, dude,
can we just make more money? Like whatever is going
to bring us more money? You guys decide, and you
guys figure it out, Like it's like whatever, Like if
the if it's all about TV, if it's all about
these contracts and getting this stuff done, whatever is going
to bring us more money, bring more money. And I'm

(32:11):
curious to see what the next layer of that is,
like how do they figure out a way to bring revenue?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
And when it's you know, they've talked.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
About streaming services there's an extra opportunity for revenue and
extra game the gambling partner like, what's the next thing?
Because I like, the NFL is always looking ahead, and
Roger Goodell will throw out like these little uh you know,
little little things in the media to try and get
the conversation started about it. So eventually you're just going

(32:40):
to get to the eighteen games. When does that stop?
I mean, are they just going to get to twenty
even and then let you go from there?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, it's a great question, and you want to you
wonder if it's it's too much, if that'shere they hit
their breaking point. I mean you hear players say they
don't want eighteen you know, they feel like seventeens lot,
So how does that factor in? And for people at home,
just you think the salaries are big now, way too.
If it ever goes from eighteen to twenty to twenty
games a season, God, you don't think this player are

(33:11):
going to push for even more. I mean you're eventually
going to see a quarterback probably make eighty million a year.
I mean, that's where this thing's headed. Yeah, I mean
now that I went fifty five sixty, so it's not
that far off.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
And then these contracts have jumped in a major way.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
And it wasn't that long ago the Dak signed his
deal and it was like thirty something, Wasn't it like
thirty forty?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
It was forty, But I mean that was aggressive years ago.
The Packers are one of the smaller but I mean
think about think about the Dallas Cowboys and what they're
probably bringing in annually. So it's a great sign for fans.
The leagues in a healthy spot. This is evidence of that.
It's interesting too, though, because the owners, you know, if

(33:57):
they were to opt out of the TV media rights
deal a little early, it would be in essence because
they want to bring in some of those streaming partners
and they feel like streaming services and obviously the utilities
behind it. I mean, you need to have a fast
f internet speed to be able to implement some of that.
If if people are cord cutting and then they're getting

(34:17):
away from your traditional cable television, you know, that's that's
gonna help it jump in a big way.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
You know, if you get Amazon, who's got.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
More, you know, money than anyone in the planet, Apple
who's got a lot of cash on hand, all these
you know, Netflix who again, will probably just raise their
subscription fee. That's typically how that works. Or you know,
they've got their ad you know, their their their offerings
with ads as well, so that's going to be part
of that. But it's just it's crazy to think that

(34:49):
like this, this league, even if you have a bad organization,
they seem to still fall off.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
It doesn't matter. It literally doesn't like nobody's losing. Like
it's a win for everybody. Oh, you were three in
fourteen this year, so what we made five hundred million dollars?
Like it doesn't I mean, go like the Browns, like
what were they this past year?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Right? And they justveal a new helmet, which we.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Could talk about, but I mean, everything's looking great for
the Browns. By the way, does Lee get a cut
of this money? Because he was bragging on the air
a few weeks ago that he's part owner of the packers,
Like he has one of those like like like signs
or placards that says part owner of the packers. He
doesn't know actually where it's at. It's in storage somewhere.

(35:30):
Maybe maybe the bums took that up out of the
back of his car too. But I'm just I'm wondering
if Lee gets a cut of this four hundred and
thirty two plus million that the packers rolled in next year.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Probably not, but no.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
No, even if he did, he just buy Booze with it.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, that is true. What are you going to spend
the money on booz? What do you mean? I'm I
gonna invest it?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Please?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air.
Coming up next though, we are going to tell you
about what could be reckless allegation against an all time
great in the world of sports, and that's yours here
on FSR.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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of next hour. A little over ten minutes from now,
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Speaker 6 (36:46):
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Speaker 1 (36:55):
It, And with lead to lap out, we turn it
over to our executive producer, Justin Cooper Cooper Loop.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Up, guys, Up cool cool?

Speaker 8 (37:04):
All right, Well, in case you missed it, former NBA
player Jeff Tigue through some allegations Lebron's way, but he
did kind of cover himself with one key word to
take a listen.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
He was on steroids, bro. He had to sit out.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
He was on steroids for real, Like legit was on steroids, Bro.
I'm allegedly, but like he had to sit out. But
you'll remember when they told him like they clutch forts
though now they was like everybody they started chasing testing
for g H and they was like yo, and he
had to sit out, like he said, his back was

(37:40):
her and he set out for like three weeks and
he came back skinny.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
This is just I was in the league.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I remember he came back and he was he was crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Though it might have been the best bron Bro he.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Did, didn't seem to lose a lot of a lot
of weight during that time off.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
I don't Yeah, I don't recall that specific time era,
whatever that that took place. I will I will say
there have been allocations or thoughts of that that you know,
he can't be able to perform at such a high
level for this long without help of something. Now he

(38:18):
also is quite possible, i'd say, next to maybe Shack.
I'm not sure who else you're throw in this conversation,
but the first thing that comes to mind is Shack
and then Lebron in regards to the greatest specimens of
all time. Oh yeah, meaning that if you were going
to say if anyone was able to do it, you
know those two are able to do it just based
on their sheer god given size and athletic ability. So

(38:40):
that's the hard part about this is, you know, it's
a lot of people have talked about this. Maybe it's true,
maybe it's not. I don't know. And by the way,
it could be a lot more guys doing it in
the NBA. The other we even realized.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
And the other part that doesn't doesn't jive with this
is he's saying this, Well, they you know, started testing
for HGH. I think they started testing for HGH in
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and when Lebron missed time, I
think it was earlier than that because he disappeared for
like three weeks he had that back issue, and then

(39:14):
he came back and that's what he looked a lot.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
So well, even if that's the case, though, when you're
out with a back issue, does are you like pulled
from the testing pool?

Speaker 6 (39:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Right, Like, well you can still get tested. The thought
is maybe it wasn't the back issue. Maybe they just
told him, man, won't you sit time for a little
bit until this stuff leaves your system?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I don't know, Like that's sounds jealous to me.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Well, and also, even if he was, who cares done?
He's done it for so long now that at a
certain point you just got to be like, yeah, man,
he's just better than everybody else. It's like Barry Bond's
like everybody who criticizes Barry Bond, I don't know what
your eyes told you. He's the greatest player I've ever
seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I just think there's
a little bit of a difference.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
And we've talked about this before in regards to taking
performance enhancing drugs, Like in football, there's an immediate impact
in your ability to compete at a higher level. Baseball, Yeah,
sure you can help hit the ball harder, but you
still have to actually hit the ball, like.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's a skill int of itself.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
That the HGH whatever steroids like that's not going to
help you. You know, you still have to have the hand,
eye coordination, the ability to do that. So that's where
I kind of differ on this, where if he was
taking something like yeah, it definitely would have helped him
prolong his career and in particular play at such a
high level where maybe his body wasn't breaking down, although

(40:31):
again there's been times where he's had various injuries.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
You know, who knows what you attribute that to.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I mean, whatever happened to the enhanced games, Remember they
were trying to throw that together. It's still think I mean,
basically for people that don't know the Olympics, except everybody
can get on the gas, like, take.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, just I cannot wait to watch. I
can't just to see all these guys juice out of
their mind compete at the high I just want to
see it.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
I want to see all these.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Oh dude, it's coming May twenty one through twenty fourth,
twenty twenty six at the Resorts World.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Can we broadcast from there? Please?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Like, I'm in, I'm in broadcast.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Can we go on vacation then yes, probably
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