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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here
coming up on this Monday edition.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
So the NFL Draft concluded.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Congratulations to Green Bay, but not a lot of really
big storylines, right wrong, Shore Sanders. We've got the race
card being played, We've got prank calls, we've got a
mel Kiper meltdown.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
We've got you covered here on the show.
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We're also going to have a conversation about somebody who
refuses to be bullied any longer. And that's somebody is
the Minnesota Timberwolves. LaVar Arrington had an awful take on
the NBA playoffs. We will discuss that. We're also going
to have another conversation about, well, what exactly are we
doing in Pittsburgh quarterback? Is there a plan? Does it
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have anything to do with how the draft played out?
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Speaker 1 (01:57):
How about that NFL draft in Green Bay? Huh? How
about it? Awesome?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Yeah, for a draft that outside of Shador Sanders, which
you know he delivered, he delivered, but outside of Shardoor Sanders,
it didn't seem like there was a lot of drama.
The ratings were there and Green Bay showed up. That
was such an unbelievable scene in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Kudos
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to all the fans that went out there, the Packers fans,
Everett involved with the Packers organization. That looked awesome, That
looked like the place to be for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Draft at Mark Murphy said, I think a week ago
the expectation was two hundred and fifty thousand people were
going to be in attendance over the course of the weekend,
and the NFL announced well a little more than that
at six hundred thousand. So that's got to be great
for the businesses there, the local economy.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
They put out. Man, that was awesome.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
You know what's incredible to watch. And we'll get to
the topic that everyone wants to talk about. But mel
Kuiper has found himself kind of embroiled in this topic
that everyone wants to talk about. Shador Sanders has drop
to the fifth round. But if you go back and
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watch one of the first times, like mel Kuiper really
made a name for himself in talking about the Colts
organization and hammering their general manager I believe it was
at the time. Oh yeah, just go back and look
at the scene of that room and how the draft
was conducted back then, which I mean it's not you know,
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at some point, you know, they decided to make this
thing a lot bigger in New York and invite players
and make it more of an event. But the decision.
Was it five years ago?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Now?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
How long has it been? Around seven?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Seven? Okay? The decision to take it on the road
city by city where they could almost bid for it.
It's been a home run case in point the Green Bay,
Wisconsin this past but like even Detroit was awesome, Nashville
was awesome. I know there's other cities that were involved,
but I look at it, I just go, this has
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been incredible.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Man.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
It really has been incredible for the NFL, their fan
bases and to mix in, you know, fan bases that
aren't going to be hosting a super Bowl, but in
some cases, the draft kind of is their super Bowl.
You know. There's a number of teams that they look
forward to. The hope and the optimism and the draft
brings every year, and this event has become so much
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fun to watch and just see what's going to happen next.
It's it's the best reality TV there is and now
it's surrounded by essentially almost like a reality TV show.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, and I was actually twenty fifteen because it first
went to Chicago for a couple of years, and then
it went to Philly, it went to Arlington, Nashville in
twenty twenty it was actually held in Anthony f Ouchi's dungeon,
so it was held there, and then twenty twenty one
was Cleveland, Vegas, Kansas City, Detroit, and then Green Bay.
(05:07):
So ten years has been going on. It gets bigger
every year, every single year. Yeah, and look, I've always
thought that it's for places like Green Bay or a
place like Philly or Cleveland that's not going to get
a Super Bowl. This is kind of the next best
thing as far as you're not going to get what
Vegas got when we were there. New Orleans got when
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we were there, But this is at least a consolation prize.
You hope the weather cooperates in late April and then
people show out and it's great for everybody in the town.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Well that never say never if one of those cool
weather teams builds a dome, I'm just I'm not counting
them out yet, But i mean, think about this. Here
are the numbers, so we all know, like the first
round does well. And that's part of the reason why
there's a desire for multiple networks. I mean, Fox isn't
on it, Amazon, some of the streaming networks. Everyone is
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in on the rights to bid for the NFL Draft
next year, I mean next year is up now. ESPN
is still a part of it, but those rights are
going to go for at least fifty maybe to one
hundred million a year Jesus for the rights to this.
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I mean the day too. The second third round got
average over seven million viewers for that. Granted, that was
up forty percent compared to the year before, and a
lot of that had to do with Shador. But I
look at it and I go, this has become must
see TV in a time and era where like we
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tend to watch things on our own, this is appointment
television and it has been to a degree. But I
can kudos to the NFL for having the vision to
see this through and get excitement around it. And that's
one of the things where I'm curious to see if
they open it up to other networks besides ESPN. Because
of a lot of the controversy around Shador, it's probably
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time we pivot to his drop from what was projected
to potentially be a topic to the fifth round. But
even how ESPN handled it, which you know you could,
you can take whatever side you want, but he got
kind of ugly up there. For a while, and maybe
it's time to let someone else actually go ahead and
handle it.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
You know, an old school radio, there's this term, it's
called the topic tree, where there's this tree that's a topic,
and then the branches that come off or different storylines
and angles off the topic. And Schador Sanders delivered many
branches off of that tree. First and foremost. Shout out
to the Cleveland Browns, you know, and I feel bad
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for anybody who bet on the Cleveland Browns to be
the team who drafted Shador Sanders on DraftKings. Was sitting
at plus three p forty on Thursday before the draft,
so you bet one hundred bucks, you went on three
hundred and forty dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That was a a wild ride to go on.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
To get your three hundred and forty dollars, like you
went round after round after round, a quarterback taken the
night before, and then finally you get him to pick
one for four.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
In the fifth round.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't I was not expecting the Browns were going
to be the team to do so. But they traded up,
they jumped over Philly, they made the move, and now
Shadoor Sanders finds himself in Cleveland, And I just don't
know that a lot of people thought that was going
to be the way that it played out and ended
up let alone in the fifth round. But back to Cleveland,
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a team that some people rejected he was going to
end up with anyways.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah, and let's just break this all down because there's
a lot of angles that I think people have taken
on this one. As for the drop, you know, that's
that's the first topic, is how has a guy who
was viewed as a first round pick dropped to the
fifth round. Now, now that the first thing I'd say
to caution everyone in that regard is talking to a
former NFL general manager and he had talked about how
(09:06):
there's one like eleven eleven first round grades in this
year's draft. Yeah, so on the outside, we get these
mock drafts. Again, guys who, in many cases no disrespect,
they've never played, coached or even been in a scouting department,
but they put together a mock draft. Okay, which, mind you,
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and no other facet of life do we look at
that with any credibility? Okay, Like if you had someone
who had never actually played, coached or been in a
front office organization to be in the role of selecting
that drafting a player, would we give any weight to
their opinion, But with the NFL Draft we do. I've
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always said this, going to the NFL combine is one
of the most fascinating things because it's the start of
that evaluation process. And when you go as a media
member for credentialing, you get the like everyone out of
the woodwork comes out and it's like draft of thon
dot Com. It's like, yeah, I get your media credentials.
It's like, well, who are.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
These guyscker Blitz done that packer Blitz?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yeah. Yeah, we were able to convince LeVar Backer Blitz
dot Com was an actual credible, credentialed media company. So
that is how wide ranging this goes. Whether there's this
desire for everyone and their mother to want to give
you what they think about who's going to go here
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and who's gonna be drafted there, or what this college
football player how he is. It's one of them. It's
the honest thing. But at the same time it makes
a lot of fun. So here we are. We have
a player in Shador Sanders, who look, I'll be I'll
be full disclosure. I thought he was much closer to
cam Ward in regards to what I saw on tape
from those two, then you know, and Jackson Dart was
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kind of right there behind him, But I didn't think
there was that much separation if you're just purely measuring
from one to pick one, at least as far as
the tape. And that's where the conversation I think kind
of ends, because a lot of what happened with Shador
Sanders I think has to do with everything outside of
what he is as a football player. Now, do I
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think he is dynamic or as athletic as Camboard.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
No.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Does he have a strung of an arm No. So
there's some things that you look at in his game
you go, well, I can see why he didn't go
anywhere close to cam Ward or get drafted where Jalen
Milroe did. He's not as dynamic as an athlete of
Jalen Milroe. So then you start listening off some of
the other quarterbacks that went before him. You know, Jackson
Dart went in the back of the first round. Well,
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you don't have as many concerns about all the things
that Shador Sanders has going on around him as opposed
to football, And so that This isn't a race thing,
and I know some people try to make it a
race topic. There's other black quarterbacks who were drafted, Camward
in particular, Umber One overall, Jaylen Milroe as well. And
(12:03):
by the way, it's not like in the NFL's racist.
It's like there's actually more biracial quarterbacks in the NFL
right now than there are white quarterbacks. So if you
want to go that route, go ahead, But I don't
know that you're going to find much credibility in that discussion.
This has to do with how Shador has handled himself
in meetings, how he's handled himself in the public eye,
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and maybe to some degree too, the concern about the
dad and what that may happen if he gets drafted
and things don't go well. I mean, there's a lot
of concern with all that just from going through the
process as a player. These teams don't want you to
tell them how to do stuff. They're drafting you. They're
the ones making the decision, and so they want you
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to more fall in line now that they don't want
they want you to be your own person, but in
the same sense, they still want you to be a
part of their culture. And their environment, not try to
change it, like like they're there. They're the ones who
are there to try to bring players to have success,
to change it. They're not asking you to do anything
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other than win football games. And I think that's the
hard part about this with Shador is you got to
keep the main thing the main thing. And when you
go to look at the draft party and they're launching
the Legendary brand and you see the prank call, and
you see him even in the prank call, he's trying
to they're filming it and everything else that goes along
with it. They're trying to like drop the Legendary in
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there for part of the branding process. And I'm like,
all right, like this is about everything other than football,
feels like at times, and I think to some degree
that was a turnoff for a lot of those teams.
I mean, you can go through the other accounts that
started to surface, but that's where, or at least from
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my experience, going through the combine being in the NFL,
being at times a starter or a backup and and
being a guy who's just trying to be third stringer
hang on the NFL does not None of these teams
are trying to say, we want you to be the
one worrying about changing our franchise. We just want you
to go out and win. We want you to play football,
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love football. That's all we want you to do. And
there's some people who would take issue with that, but
don't take issue with me. I'm just telling you how
it works.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, it was Todd McShay who reported Brian day Ball.
I guess they had to visit a private visit and
he tried to do an install package. Should Or Sanders
wasn't prepared for it. Brian day Ball called him out.
Should Or didn't like the fact that he called him out.
They asked Brian dave Ball about it. He kind of
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sidestepped the whole thing over the weekend when they asked
him about it, and so you just started to hear
more of that stuff come out and you go, Okay, well,
maybe there really was something to the reporting that was
out there that he didn't have great visits with teams
throughout out the whole process of the draft. Now he's
going to Cleveland and he's going to be a member
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of the Browns, So of course the Cleveland media caught
up with him after he was selected on Saturday and
here with Shador, I.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
Know I'm gonna fit in perfectly. It's first getting in,
showing the respect to events, showing them you know, I'm
here ready to work, show to coaches, and have him
understand you know, I'm here ready to work, so they
could actually understand the real me. That's what I'm truly
thankful to have, is an opportunity for people to actually
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see the real me and not be able to see
stuff that could be true or not.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
So there were some people that were kind of speculating, well,
maybe this is going to be the thing that humbles them.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I mean, you'd hope so, but yeah, like who knows.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Man Like, if he's got this brand going, he's got
all these other things going. There's video surfacing of him
trying to convince cam Ward's let's record a together, and
cam Ward's like, no, I'm all about football.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I don't want to be a rapper, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Like like you would think, Okay, maybe over the weekend
he got a glimpse into hey, you've got to clean
some stuff up. He alluded to that and talking with
the Cleveland media as well too. But now you turn
it over and you just say all right, he's going
to get in there and we'll see how it plays
out as a fifth round pick as opposed to a
fringe first round pick that some people had him at.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Well, let me ask you this. And they put out
a lot of content content themselves. I mean, was that
not real? Like what do you what are you supposed
to believe when they put out a lot of content?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Right, yeah, it's look the And I do wonder based
on the coverage over the weekend if there were certain
NFL teams that were looking around going now do you see,
like we didn't even draft the guy? And look what
it's turned into. Right, And the more that it went on,
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and you mentioned the ratings for it and the storyline,
and look, I give you credit all the time on
this and talking about it leading up to the draft.
You're the one who pointed out, man, if not for
Shador Sanders, what's the interesting storyline in the draft? And
it's true, and that thing carried on all three days,
Like all three days, that was the story of the
entire draft.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I will say this though, because the Sanders family and Shador,
because they're so polarizing, that's what drove it. It wasn't
that people are like waiting to see where he goes
because they like him, which is a bit sad. And
we'll talk about the prank call and all that stuff
later on. I think the hard thing for me and
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talking about this draft pick too, though, is looking at
it from the side of the Cleveland Browns, and I guess,
let's just do this. Let's hear from their general manager
Andrew Berry, and then we can talk about that on
the other side of it.
Speaker 7 (17:58):
It wasn't necessarily the plan going into the weekend to
select two quarterbacks. But you know, as we talked about,
we we do believe in best player available, We do
believe in positional value, and you know, we didn't necessarily
expect him to be available in the you know, in
the fifth round, and so we love adding competition to
every position room and adding him to compete with, you know,
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the guys that are already in there. We felt like, you know,
that was the appropriate thing to do.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
How's this going to work? I mean, in all seriousness.
So so this offseason, the Cleveland Browns have signed veteran
Joe Flacco, who was already there a couple of years ago.
I think he built up a lot of equity with
the fan base for the way he handled himself and
help get that team, you know, into the playoffs towards
the end of the season. You have Kenny Pickett, who
they traded for, who's still on his rookie contract, former
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first round pick. Then you take Dylan Gabriel, so very productive,
experienced quarterback at the college level. I think he comes
in ready to go. You know, there's some maybe some
limitations a bit with as far as his size, but
by all accounts, a very talented passer, lefty, but very
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talented passer. Then you take Shador and this doesn't mention
the fact that Deshaun Watson's still technically on the roster,
even though it feels like he's a bit of an afterthought. Yeah,
how's it gonna work. You have four new players, two
of which are rookies, one that's on his rookie deal,
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that's played some but not a ton, and you gotta
get these all these guys prepared reps for someone to start.
I mean, I understand clearly the Cleveland Browns are trying
to address the quarterback position, but I don't think they're
doing Chador any favors because if you're just basing it
purely off of the draft pick and what guys have
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signed for and what guys are being paid and everything
else that goes along with that. He's the least valued.
He he's the guy that starts day one on the
roster as fourth string, assuming Deshaun Watson isn't healthy back
as part of that whole mix. So how many reps
is he even getting? Like most teams keep two maybe
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three quarterbacks on their active roster, four maybe on the
practice squad if they keep three on the active roster.
So not only is it going to be hard for
especially between Dylan Gabriel, Shudre Sanders, for one of the
you know these guys develop, it's to be hard to
prepare any one of those four for the be the starter.
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And so on top of that, you now bring in
what is And again we saw a Day two in
the draft, second and third round, seven point two some
point three million people watched just to see if he
did or did not get drafted and everything that comes
along with that. And and some people might say, well
that's a good thing. Then people are gonna watch the
Browns for that opportunity of Shudure starts well, if he
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even gets the chance to start, if he even gets
the chance to dress. I mean, you got a fifty
three men roster. At forty six dress, you can use
the third quarterback designation. That's if he even dresses to
have a chance of playing. So I look at this
as actually quite possibly one of the worst situations, not
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only for a quarterback in the Browns room to start
and play, because you're gonna have limited reps. There's no
there's no one guy like Camboard right now, and they
could say will Lewison, they are gonna compete bs. You
drafted camb Woard number one. Overall, Give cam Ward every
single flipping rep to the start of the of this
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upcoming season, because because that's what you that's what you
drafted him to be, so prepare him. Give them every rep.
At best, these guys are gonna get twenty five percent
of whatever Camboard's gonna get at best. So not only
is it not a good situation for either of the
young quarterbacks that they just drafted, it's not a great
situation to figure out who there guy's going to be
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as their starter because they're not getting a ton of
enough reps or a ton of reps to prepare for it.
And based on the photo when they took shardor Sanders,
it looked like someone was holding kevin'st to Fancy or
Andrew Barry hostage.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But you pointed that out to me, and I went
back and looked at Andrew Berry's face and He's like, yeah,
he looked like like somebody was literally electrocuting his dog
right in front of him, like he had he had
no There was no emotion, no smile, no anything. And
for an organization that has tried to openly distance themselves
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from a circus that is Deshaun Watson, they've just invited
another one in. They could say whatever they want, all
that branding, all of that is coming to the organization,
and they had other options. They chose other options and
still couldn't resist and trade it up in order to
grab him. Anyways, So it's which, it's wild man.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
You know, it's not often times that you have an
owner involved fifth round draft pick. I think Jimmy Haslm
was here. Oh boy. I mean when you hear the
words and again this is just you know, talking about
Andrew Berry. We just heard a moment ago say that
wasn't the plan going into it, Well, what changed? I mean,
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the head coach, general management, their plans don't really change, right,
And you can talk about draft value, positional value, all
that stuff. You already took one. You took doing Gable
in the third round. So I sit there and say,
there is something more there where I'm sure Jimmy HASLM
kind of came to the rescue and nudge those guys
to bring Shure and give him a chance. And so
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now hopefully should or could do some of the things
he said and fall in line. Give respect to the Vets,
because here's the truth. Did it seem like should Wear
Sanders or anyone really gave a lot of respect to
the Colorado players that were veterans, that were existing, that
were already there. I mean, the answer is no. But
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they're going to rely on the fact of just saying, well,
they were a one win football team before we got there,
you know, and look what we build it into. Well,
it's not like every single one of those players was
the reason or justification for it. There's a lot of
factors that play a role in all of that. But look,
I've loved his confidence, I love his accuracy, I love
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how he layers throws. I think he can play in
the NFL.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
I do.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
And Kevin Stefanski, by the way, has been a coach
that has showcased that doesn't matter who's that quarterback, he
can be able to maximize their abilities. So from that standpoint,
maybe it's a good thing for where he ended up.
But the problem is is, again, you've got four guys
who just all brought in this offseason. They all need
the reps. You got to prepare one to be the starter,
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and that guy should get at least half, if not
the majority. And like I said, with young guys or
especially guys, you want to start like if I was
the starter, I'm not giving up any of my reps ever,
because I would never want to feel like I'm not
prepared or I wish I would have taken one more
rep of this. I wish I would have taken one
more rep of that. You want to take as many
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reps as you can to feel prepared because you have
such a big install week in and week out that
you have a hard time ever really making every throw
that's on that game plan or on that you know
on that call sheet. So you want to get as
many reps as possible. That's why I keep going back
to this. It just it seems like it's going to
be an awkward scenario. But I mean looking and I'm
(25:33):
I'm a Browns fan through and through, got drafted by
the Browns, played for it was a part of kind
of how this goes. And this, unfortunately is the broken record.
This keeps going over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Man, But my buddy is a Browns fan.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
He works in radio at a at another network, and
he texted me and he's like, they just can't help themselves.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
It's it's like, why can't you let someone else do it?
Let someone else do it? Did you just have Can
you have an off season where it's like there's just
no drama with it? Like if you got past Deshaun Watson?
Now you can't just be like, all right, let's let's
go in this direction, let's do it the right way. No,
of course not.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, It's so there you go.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
There's the Cleveland Browns and the outlook for the twenty
twenty five season. It is two pros and a cup
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Speaker 1 (27:54):
I think us, along.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
With everybody else, started to take notice of Anthony Edwards
last year in the playoff.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
That dude is fun to watch. That team's fun to watch.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Man.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
No, they've They've constructed a contender, there's no doubt. I
think you saw that from the result too last night.
But just the way he plays, there's a lot of
us old souls, right. He watched the NBA in the nineties, eighties,
nineties kind of missed that physical style of basketball and
it was on. It was on full display last night.
I mean he was trying to be a pest towards
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Lebron James, physically bum beckham nudging him, doing everything to
irritate him, and I will say this on the other
side of that comment, My god, man, Lebron at forty
and the way he's still able to play it really
is ridiculous. I mean, he's such a rarity in regards
to the longevity and how he's able to do it
this long into a season, this long into a career.
(28:51):
He needs his props, like like there. And I know
in saying that about Lebron James, I get it. Yeah,
he's on that Mount rushmore for me, but he gets
a lot of flak too, and it's pretty incredible to
see what he's doing at this age. But it's also
I'm not comparing Anthony Edwards to Michael Jordan or anything
like that, but it gives you flashes of what that
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era of basketball would have been like a little bit
and watching those two kind of go at it and
go after it, and it's hard to say it's not working.
I mean, it's hard to argue with that based on
the results of this series so far.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Anthony Edwards spoke after the game about not backing down.
Now he's not gonna be bullied by Lebron James and
the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, it's gonna be physical, man.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
I'm gonna say I was trying to make a point,
But just let him know that we hear you, like, we.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Ain't just gonna you ain't just gonna push us around
all night. I mean, because I'm not gonna lie. He's strong.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
It's hard to keep him from like he posted me up.
He got all the way to the rim. I was
glad he missed the layup, but he had a lot
stronger than me. But just let him know that we're
gonna be here all night, and I'm gonna be a
pass to him. Whenever I get on him'm gonna try
to get up under his skin.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And I'm gonna try. I mean, because you know, we
played it the USA. He was like a big brother
to me.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
He looked out for me, helped me out a lot,
reading the game IQ and everything.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
So, you know, just trying to be a pest to
him out there.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Some Minnesota as a three to one series lead over
the Lakers, which look, if they wrap this thing up
in five games, that's gonna be really unfortunate for a
lot of people at certain networks who have been banking
on like what network, Well, you know there's this one
called a ESPN. I don't know if you're familiar with it.
They've really made it a point to back and push
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the Lebron Lakers discussion all the way through, Like they've
really made that a point.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And meanwhile, Luka Doncic.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
That amongst other narratives that they've been.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Pushing, Yeah, there's that that, Like Luka Doncic shows up
the other night and he's got some sort of a
stomach bug and was vomiting all day and.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I've look.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He seems like I'll just put it this way, he
seems like he's been in better shape at other points
during the course of his career, Like he seems like
he's he starts to gas late in games, like he
was phenomenal, and then they got to the fourth quarter
yesterday and they melt it down, like Lebron with a turnover,
missed a three.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
The foul on Anthony.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Edwards that they reviewed and showed that he slapped his
wrists like they couldn't they couldn't buy a basket. They're
giving it up to Austin Reeves to try and hit
shots down the stretch like it feels like they've just
run out of gas. Latent games and they've run out
of gases.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
They got to the postseason. That's what it looks like
to me.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, but hey, we we don't just celebrate just the
Lakers and the Timberwolves. Congratulations, your Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Are up three to one, just a crually. I just
want to point that out. Want to give everybody to love.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
We do have time for some other you know.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, I mean, look, there's there's also I would like
to say for anybody that's not been paying attention. If
you want sanctioned violence, if you would like sanctioned violence
in the NHL, just turn on the Washington Montreal series.
If anybody's interested in that, you can go ahead and
get a whiff of that as well too.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Were we not talking warriors? Not talking about Warriors Brockets here?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
No, I mean I don't know if you wanted to
do it now or if you wanted to wait until
LaVar got back. I wasn't sure if.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Well, the problem is there's another guy. I think we
can do it both. I think we do it both times. Yeah,
because let's go ahead and just let's do this. Let's
paint a picture where the Houston Rockets are at after
their their second winning the series. On Saturday, because some
people on the show, some people thought it was not possible, and.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
All of a sudden, We've got a series because Jimmy
Butler's got to get an MRI because he's got a
pelvit contusion.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
They're calling it.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
That's a rat. They don't got a series. That's that.
That was a quick turn. That that party.
Speaker 10 (32:49):
If you're a Golden State Warriors fan, that party died
out quick.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Geez.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
They can't do it without without Jimmy Buckets, man, I
can't do it. It was gonna be a good series in
terms of it would be competitive, but Golden State I
felt like with outclassed them and having two scores of
the caliber of Curry and Butler would be too much
for a really, really talented Rockets team.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
But now, yeah, the tables turn.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
It's only one game, right, It's one one still, you know,
you never know. I mean, this Golden State team has
rallied sometimes with Steph Curry having help and not, so
I'm not counting them out. It only takes one Steph
Curry and Fuego shooting night that to get them right
back in this and thirty six points, by the way,
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on a Saturday for Steph Curry as the Golden State
Warriors lead the series two to one. They played tonight
Game four, which will be there in San Francisco, California,
at the Chase Center ten pm Eastern, that's seven pm
Pacific for all you out there. Also giving three and
a half points for all you betting fans list. We
don't even know if Jimmy Butler's gound be playing in
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this game. We're not at this point.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Look, I just I don't think it's fair that he's
not here. I'm not going to sit here and take
shots at LaVar kuiper G, I mean LeVar Arrington and
point out that he had gotten a call wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I'm not going to sit here and take shots.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
But if they go down three to one and he
shows up tomorrow, he might get that work.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
Buddy sticks picks are thank you, Lorena. We are playing
this tomorrow for him as well, especially if they go
up three to one in this series and they do
it without Jimmy Butler, which the best of my knowledge,
I don't believe he's been ruled out, but I'm not
sure he's rolled in. It's still early in the day.
We'll see what happens. But again, the Golden State Warriors
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underestimated by one of LeVar Arrington in their ability for
Steph Curry to be able to still, you know, have
his place up there as one of the greatest all
time in NBA history and carry this team against the
number two seed.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Now, Bob who does the voice work here at Fox
Sports Radio and on the Blowtorch seventy, can we get
him to recut another one that says sticks whiffs and
then throw that if if Golden State goes up three
one to Martin Lee, would we be able to effort
that or would LeVar get pissed? Would he get pissed
about that? Just like the music.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
Yeah, I don't know how that will be received. We
could ask, we could make it happen. I'm a little
easy to do it.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
We need to have it as a change up. We
need we need to have it as a change up,
just to see if he even notices the difference between
like Stick's picks and.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
The problem is like he hasn't learned.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
LaVar hasn't learned the art of if you get something wrong,
just deny that you ever said it. Even though there's
there's recordings of it that people have been listening just
accuse them of hearing wrong, because then they go like, well,
what do you mean you said no, no, no, I never
said that. Just lie about it, like, you've got to
learn to lie better if you want to make it
in sports radio.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I've learned that a long time ago.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Oh I know, buddy, is I'm taking Golden State money
line tonight. It's so bad just because I want this.
I want to see this tomorrow. Oh yeah, let me
that's all I want as I've worn this tomorrow for
us so bad.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Now I've got a rooting interest.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Let me.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
So.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Golden State's a three and a half point favorite. The
money line is minus one seventy five. Let's go Warriors. Yeah,
let's go Warriors.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Let's go stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And hey, listen, the Rockets are fun. You know. They've
got an email.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
U Dooka's got a red ass all the time, and
and we're hoping that everything works out long term in Houston.
But for tonight, we are rooting for the Golden State
Warriors just to have a little bit of drama on
the show tomorrow. So that'll be fun. It is two
pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up next though,
we are going to tell you in another edition of
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Speaker 4 (37:44):
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Speaker 2 (37:54):
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Speaker 11 (37:58):
Good Monday morning, everybody. Good morning Jonas, Good morning Brady, guys.
In casey, hey, Var, Good morning there, buddy, guys, you
can really.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Do that anymore?
Speaker 5 (38:08):
In his defense, yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
It's true.
Speaker 12 (38:10):
Yeah, but good morning bar guys. In case you missed it.
Speaker 11 (38:13):
In case you missed that Pacers went over the Bucks
Sunday night in Game four one three, you might have
also missed that Damian Lillard went down with a lower
leg injuries undergoing an MRI today Monday. According to Duck Rivers,
just being honest, it's not very promising, and then that
goes on to say that it looks like it could
be a possible Achilles tendon injury.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Stanks, man, it thanks the whole Let's pair up, be
honest with another star and let's make this move. Has
just not worked that well for anybody in Milwaukee, they
are I don't know what you honest's future is going
to be now, Dame Lollard, it's going to be out
for a significant amount of time. I just I wonder
(38:54):
if they got their one championship and that'll be that,
like they got that one and I think twenty two
they won over Phoenix after they were trailing in the series,
and now it's just gonna be uh, They're gonna have
to look elsewhere. But that is not that was an
idea that was that has not played out very well
for them in the organization, so unfortunate. At least she
(39:14):
got the Packers.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
What else you got?
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Lee guys.
Speaker 11 (39:17):
A number of interactions with fans that went viral over
the weekend, just rattling them off. Here James Franklin getting
into it with a fan who apparently called him a fraud.
Boston Red Sox Jared Duran got into it with a
Guardians fan during the game.
Speaker 12 (39:30):
That fan got ejected.
Speaker 11 (39:31):
Typical Guardians go over to the UFO UFL Michigan Panthers
wide receiver Samson Nakua, of course, brother of Poka Akua.
Speaker 12 (39:39):
Slapped a fan. That's good, so I don't.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Know where to go with this.
Speaker 12 (39:43):
If it's just fans are getting a little too feisy, or.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Why mentioned it all together? Lade, we had other stuff
teed up, you still have not gotten to it.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
So here we are the Sampson Nicoua. Did you see
him smack that dude? The best part about the get
charged with assault, it's me great. The best part about
it is his teammate pointing at the guy and laughing.
Teammates just pointing at the guy and laughing. Who was
running his mouth over the over the railing there? So
what else we got?
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Lee?
Speaker 11 (40:13):
Guys, the commanders have reached an agreement to take over
the site that was FedEx Field.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Told you we knew it was coming. Try to tell you, guys.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Nobody wanted to listen to you know, you know that's
not where RFK was, right RK, What do you mean?
Speaker 12 (40:27):
It's RFK state, RFK Stadium, No FEDIX State.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Okay, I was gonna say, like they just switched up
the two then, Lee.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, no, that was my fault. Sorry, I listen. I
tried to tell you guys who were going back to
r FK. You didn't want to listen.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
We're else They gonna do it the space over there.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
What do you mean like there's all sorts of options they.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Given my interaction at FedEx Field. At least, no one's
gonnaet hit by a car trying to walk into the stadium.
My god, Like, whoever built that thing with like a
turnpike that goes literally around the stadium itself was not
putting two and two together.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Are the crap closets still leaking there at FedEx Field
or no, they're still looking