October 15, 2025 • 40 mins
Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas, LaVar and Brady open the show looking ahead to what's been the dubbed the "Icy Hot Bowl" as the Aaron Rodgers-led Steelers take on the Joe Flacco-led Bengals... Is two 40-plus-year-old quarterbacks facing off going to become more commonplace going forward, or is this a rarity? Then they move into Titans interim head coach Mike McCoy's opening press conference, discussing what the switch means for the rest of Cam Ward's rookie season. Plus, more fun with a new edition of ICYMI!
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, well go toddzos. That's a wrap.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's that serious. Jo yep, seeing the world serious.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Lado gold Dodzos. This is your governor speaking. I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it's not just not going well from Milwaukee, which
is just a damn shame. Just such a such a
lovable fan base, so much to like about that, that organization,
that fan base. So it's just wow, just a shame.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Is that coming from a Cubs fan. I think he's
being sarcastic. I heard in his voice, love Pat Murphy.
The fan base is a bit much, my two sons.
The TV stations are a bit much. Oh yeah, you gotta.
We got we got being kid nappings. We got a
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home shopping network, you can get that for eighty nine
ninety five, and we got a TV evangelist on one.
I just you know, all right, okay, lot going on? Man,
what do y'all be doing during the Ben Milor Show?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Man?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Like Ben, what are y'all doing. Man, were working hard.
So y'all don't see the TV. Don't watch them one bit. Okay,
Well there you go. Sounds a lot like that series
between the Dodgers and the Brewers. It definitely does, because
I didn't watch it, certainly didn't didn't have it on
my TV screen. You know what, a couple more games
(03:07):
get to the World Series. I watched that. I can
manage one game at a time. Man, is that pretty good?
But you guys go right ahead. I mean, I know
Q was a big time baseball player. You know you
your your son's going to be a big time saw
the film. He's want to be a big time baseball
not after yesterday, No, it went, it went downhill yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I mean, he got back on the horse, so to speak.
But we I don't know why. I thought this was
a good idea.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So it rained and.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The park we play at was kind of destroyed, so
we couldn't actually go play yesterday, and so I said,
you know, we'll just go in the backyard and play catch.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So we'll just throw the ball around.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
That's fine, And I got an actual baseball out because
I thought, you know, I think he's ready for this.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And you're hitting with.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It right in the nose, right in the beat. Yeah, yeah,
you're a horrible bro. Like they, I can't control the
natural action I have on my fastball, like listen, did
some people just have that gift?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And how do you have a natural fastball that would
hit him in his nose? Because he thought it was
going one place and it went somewhere else. You know,
So y'all were playing catch, he wasn't swinging a little
two seam action if you will, and you're and you're
happy about it, like you're bragging about the decent movement
for you know, in a warm up session, little bullpen session.
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It's a decent movement on that fastball.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But it hit him, just mistimed it, and uh, you know,
he was crying.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
He was very upset.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And I waited until his mom left and I said,
you want to go back out there and try it again,
and he did, and he caught the ball before him
because she was not she was not about that at
that point. So mom wasn't no, no, no, no, no, she was,
what are you doing? Why'd you think that was a
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good idea? And there's I have no response, there's nothing.
It's like everything she said is valid. Those are fair questions.
I don't know what I was thinking, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But you're not supposed to get shamed for being a
dad that's teaching his young boy to be a young man.
You can't get shamed for that. That's what you're doing.
Like you know, kids have replaced baseball bats and hockey
sticks for street hockey and street baseball and basketball and
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at the neighborhood gym and or at the neighborhood park
with Dorito's and funians the remote controls and cell phones. Yeah,
kids don't go outside anymore, man, They don't play, they
don't do physical activities, and then they end up being
obese and overweight, looking like me, damn, and complaining about
(06:05):
why life is unfitandrastically, where do we go? Leave you
to hell? Leave you, leave you to hell alone. Let that.
Let let let little man get hitting the gad dang face.
Know what pain feels like, pain, Know what it feels
like to get through the pain and get back at it.
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I'm just saying, yeah, well, hell, I'm just saying, if.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He ends up with it, daddy, if he ends up
with a deviated septum when he's older.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know, that's we know when it happened, so well,
it was worth it. Y'all had a father son moment.
He'll never forget it. It'll be a story daddy tales.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
By the way, speaking older, Yeah, what are you guys
thoughts on? I believe Cam Hayward came up with this
name for the Steelers Bengals game coming up on Thursday night,
the Icy Hot Bowl between Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco.
A couple of forty plus year old quarterbacks going out
there slinging it. Last time this happened. Only time it
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happened Tom Brady Drew Brees back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So we've got Rogers, We've got Flacco. Might as well
puol Q in there. You want to go get it?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
You want some of that c I'd throw like a
few passes, Yeah, I'd be about it.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Y'all have the same age, right, you same age as
like Aaron Rodgers, right.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Uh, he's older by like a year or two. I
think I think it was like two classes, but like
one year age wise, and then Flacco is a year
or two younger something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm somewhere in the middle. I guess okay, But my
question is last one we saw was Brady Brees.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Will this become a more of a common occurrence to
you guys, or do you think, actually this is a
rarity because you're just you're not gonna see guys play
as long in part, like I look at the style
of play I have some of the guys, and I
think it was I think who we were talking.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
About, but maybe it was Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
There's an he's scrambled and run more this year than
ever before, and usually that leads to you know, injuries
and and everything that comes along with with being outside
the pocket where you're not protected. And one of the
reasons why I think guys are able to play so
long in the pocket is because of all the protection
that the NFL gives you. So I'm not sure like
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which way this is gonna go. Like I look at Flacco,
and the opportunity has been given and a lot of
it's he is a Super Bowl winning quarterback, super Bowl MVP.
He's played well enough for long enough to be able
to warrant the opportunity, but there's also still a need
because there's injuries. So I'm not sure if this is
gonna be like more of a common occurrence. We should
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expect to see this more often, or if we should
appreciate it, because when Rogers is done, when Flaco decides
to hang it up, like, I'm not sure who that
old head's going to be, And in part two, like
guys being paid up really well, maybe to the point
where they get to like year twelve thirteen, they're like, yeah,
I'm not doing this for twenty years. Yeah, I'd rather
(09:10):
just kind of move on with.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Life, That's what I But y'all got it the easiest.
Y'all got it the hardest, but you have at theiot easiest.
You know, It's like, y'all have a point.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But that doesn't change anything what I just said.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I think it changes the idea of playing. As long
as you're going to play based off of I mean,
you're not going to get hurt, and it's even more
safer for quarterbacks. Now, why wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
You just the case because like you know, when you
get older, like Aaron Rodgers, he runs out of the
tunnel in four plays literally pops his achilles.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, well, if you're popping on achilles, I get that.
But if if you're not, and you're okay to play.
I'm taking that bag and I'm gonna take it until
I'm like fifty years old.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So Dak Prescott recently said that you know something about
wanting to play into your forties. I think he's thirty two,
thirty three, and if your deck, he's.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Got a whole other decades.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You're all right, let's say this guy, it's like another
half of your career.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But they don't let you bro if they graze, if
they if they breathe on a quarterback wrong. These days,
you're getting penalized. I mean, it's this is very frustrating
for you. The way they've made it. You get to
pay for as long as you want to play, as
long as you can throw.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, but these guys probably are bigger, faster, stronger than
ever before, right, I mean, they're more explosive, they're better athletes.
Like I think you're kind of missing the point of
doesn't matter if they're protected. Dude's still getting injured. Guys
are still getting knocked the hell out.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Man, I'm not missing none of your points. Player, I'm
telling you right now, you live mother efforts can play
as long as y'all want to play, because they out
there with a defense man. We just got it so
hard over here. Yeah, we do hold out here. Defense
hold out here for a player had many and everything. Yeah,
(11:08):
I mean, see how these spoiled ass brats be talking.
See see how it plays out. Now, y'all know what
goes on in the locker room. See what goes on.
We're pale with the defense we do walking around with
their golf clubs and stuff like that. Hell yeah, hell yeah,
sons bitches. Yeah, I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Fo.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
That's the only contact y'all be making. Yeah, golf balls.
And the kickers, yeah, kickers too, But no, the qbs
be right with them. They're all, you know, kickers and qb. Yeah,
they'd be right with the be right with them. Not
in the season, definitely, maybe maybe the off season. Spring,
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definitely the spring.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But they be key keying about their swings. We be key, kid,
they'd be like crazy, man, like doing walkthroughs and and
training and running and stuff like that. And the quarterbacks
and then and the punters and the kickers they be
over there like yucking it up, you know, swinging clubs
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there you go.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And then defenders, hey man, well, we want the club.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, well that is what we do tonight.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
We got what we gotta do.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What they talk, Yeah, we will do what you want
to do. I don't know, it's code. I don't know why.
What are we gonna do? What we gonna do? Huh
you wanna do it? What time? When we're going with?
Pick you up. I'll pick you up and we get showered.
Give me twenty minutes, meet you out front.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
All right?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Cats come back ca cats come backing out the door, backwards,
going down the stairs of their their town home, looking
around like you're really about to go on a caper.
You get up in the car, you dap your boy yet,
let's right, that's right. And I got him too, by
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the way. I go up in there with my QB
we rolling out. I got ain't nobody gonna mess with.
I protect him better than the old linemanwood on the field.
I tell you that, don't message with.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
There's this other thing I'll say to LeVar about that point,
is you go with the QB.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's gonna be a different experience. Oh, you get everything,
You get everything. I was always close with the QB's
You get everything. When people be acting like they know
the quarterback. Hey man, I ain't doing good to see.
We got you set up. You're all good right here?
You ain't like all right? Thanks?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Then we get in there and it gets in there,
and all you got to do is be humble like
y'all can't all have me, y'all can't all have him,
and one of y'all gonna be bad as hell, and
you the odd man out, and I'm gonna be right
here to clean up man right here. Sorry, Brady's beautiful,
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but they all up on him. I might be ugly,
but I'm nice to talk to. There's only one a
m I can console you from not being aggressive enough
to win. Clearly it played out and you weren't on top.
I could call you a loser, but I'm gonna just
say that you didn't get there in time. I want
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to build you up. I don't want to break you down.
We can be friends, not for a long time before
a good time and a short time. There you go.
That's all with the QB. Now we go in there
by ourselves. It's like, hey man, a man, give me
like you just use a.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Rick Asley line.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
What I won't be here for a long time for
but for a good time, A good time. I felt you.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Said something about like never gonna I don't know if
you said never gonna give.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You up or let you down. I'm not here the well,
I don't know. I don't know us. Literally, I was
like this said.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Lyrics, maybe.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
A good song let you down? Exactly? Is that the
origin of Rick Rold? I think that's where they came from,
isn't it? Is it? I don't even know what the
hell that is?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Like when you pretend like you're gonna show somebody a
video and that song comes on because it just jumps
to you most positive? Okay, and could you fact check
that please? I just want to make no that's correct
for sure? Okay, yeah, Rick Rold.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh yeah, that's when when all the girls get taken
up by Brady, we're gonna make you that one that
got left by yourself or two or three. I'm gonna
choose one of you three because now I'm the chooser.
We're no strangers to love, So when are we doing this?
(15:54):
We know the rules. You tried to get the Brady,
you couldn't get to them, and now you're here.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Someone gonna make this their opener for a minute.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You gotta wait a little while. I just want to
tell you how I'm feeling right now. Because you got time,
I can make you understand. Yeah it get the farc
not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna ride around
and desert you girls. Yeah, I'm not gonna make you
cry like Brady Dead. I'm not gonna say goodbye. I'm
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not gonna tell you a lie and hurt you girl.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Love you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Hey, but I got my own little groupie club because
they couldn't get the Q winning winning. When the QB
wants to, Hey, all, y'all young bucks out there, When
the QB wants to go hang out? Which you go
hang out with? You QB? Get in good which QB.
(16:51):
You ain't got to just be the wide receiver or
or the center of the offensive line. Get in good
which QB?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Man?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Because that is real life.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
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We'll have another edition of in case you missed it
coming up here in about twenty minutes from now. Mike
McCoy is now the interim head coach for the Tennessee Titans.
He's got the task of trying to help develop, at
least while he's there, one cam Ward, the number one
overall pick in the draft, upon the firing of Brian
Callahan and Mike McCoy talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
That's going to be our number one focus is, you know,
how do we get cam to be more efficient, you know,
and have more success. But it's not just him. There's
ten other guys in the field with him that I've
got to do their jobs better too. So we got
to we all have to do our jobs there, coaching,
playing everybody. But I think there's the good and the bad,
and as a young player, as a rookie, there's gonna
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be some bumps in the road. It's it's going to happen.
I mean, it doesn't matter what position you're going to
play in this league, especially quarterbacks the hardest position to play.
So you know, there's there's some really good things, and
then there's some things that you want to say, what
are we doing? And but our the number one focus
has got to be, Okay, how do we minimize the
mistakes and get more of the good you know, more production.
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But that that's that's all eleven on offense working together
and being more efficient.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Titans intermed coach Mike McCoy. There also should be noted
Brian Callahan's dad, Bill Callahan, no longer on the staff
as the offensive line coach. I can't imagine that would
have been very comfortable situation for anybody if his son
just got clipped and he's still the on lion coach.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
There seems like yeah, but at the same time, I mean,
you know the job, you're signed up out right, Yeah. Yeah,
Like there's that element of things. And I don't remember
when Brian Callahan got the job, many thought like, hey,
that one of the enticing things about Brian Callahan is
he's the son of Bill Callahan. He's one of the
best offensive line coaches in the league, and so there
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was a thought that that was I don't want to
say a package deal, but that was definitely part of
the upside of hiring Brian Callahan, who is a you
know again a young, you know, well spoken, good offensive mind.
You build up his reputation from his time in Cincinnati,
but you know clearly he wasn't given enough time to
do much of anything with this team or with with
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this roster. I mean, even if you think about it
from the standpoint of all right, LeVar takes over as
head coach, and.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Year one he's got one general manager. In year two
they already fired him. He's got another one.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Like, think about the conversations that you're having with that guy,
whoever that is, you know, about how you go about
seeing you know, the quarterback, the attributes you're looking for,
building the offensive line, build, you know, building out what
these players look like. So the whole thing, to me
is still a disaster. It's it's still a mess. I
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do think the upside is for cam Ward. Look, Mike
McCoy played in this league. He's uh, he'd be played
for four or five years as a quarterback. He's been
in the league as a coach for a long time.
You know, I've spent time with him. He's a smart coach.
He's a good play caller. He will put cam Ward
in a position to help him grow and help him
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hopefully succeed. But like I don't look at it and say,
all right, Brian Callahan was the issue with this team.
This roster is not competitive enough. They've got some pieces
and Cam Word can throw to Calvin Ridley all day,
but that's only going to get you so far in
the NFL. So that's the tough part is you're making
a change for again. I don't want to say change
his sake, but whoever was in the hiring process in
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the first place probably should have looked themselves in the
here and say, if we don't give the next guy,
I don't know, four years, we're never gonna see what
this thing can be. And it's going to be ugly
early because we're not in a position right now to
win a lot of football games.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And then you have casualties, casualties from number one overall
draft picks to draft picks all through the draft, to
undrafted free agents that would have had fear opportunities to
have pretty decent careers, to better careers to Hall of
Fame careers if they weren't drafted into a situation like
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the one they're in right now. Always going to be
casualties to these types of situations. Like you said three
to four, four to five, that used to be standard
time for a coach to come in see what he
needs to see, evaluate the situation, make sure that you're
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building a proper culture, like two to three years before
you start seeing the results of a buildout. You know,
people want homes to be built in a day. Like
if you were fortunate enough to ever design and build
your own home, I think you find out that the
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lesson learned than that is patience and understanding, and you're
not going to get it when you want it. You're
going to get it when it's done. And people don't
in today's culture. They don't society, they don't understand time.
And I don't understand when this became a thing with
(24:40):
ownership to start making such quick, knee jerk reaction decisions
on coaching staffs. There's only so many times you can switch.
Like when I was talking about Washington back in the
day before it became evident that there was some thing
(25:00):
wrong organizationally speaking at the top with leadership, it's like
you bring in, like listen to this, this list of coaches.
I come in, I'm drafted. We have Norv Turner. North
gets released, relieved of his duties during the season after
we lost to Dallas. Terry Rabisky takes over. Terry Rabisky
(25:20):
takes over. Good dude. Then then comes Marty Schottenheimer. They
didn't like the fact that Marty didn't want them to like,
get out of the way. Don't have me coaching and
managing you as owners while I'm trying to coach and
(25:41):
manage my team players and coaches. They ain't like that.
Get rid of him after one year. Then they bring
in Spurrier. He gets two years. Hey, nobody's fault didn't
work out. We're all pros. You know they had my coach. Hey,
(26:02):
I'll take a leave. Then then they bring in Joe Gibbs. Now,
Joe Gibbs got further than anybody else. He made it
to the playoffs, but even he couldn't handle it and
he had to leave. Nobody could handle the conditions that
they were placed in while going to Washington. And then
Jim Zorn got two years. When you get the bro
(26:24):
it keeps going and coaching carousel kept going. The bottom line,
good God, no, God, good no.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I'll just say I don't think people realize how good
of a coach.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Marty Schottenheimer was do you know he coached and no
stop was never below five hundred. The only place San Diego,
Kansas City, Cleveland, and then obviously a year in Washington he.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Was eight and eight. That's the only.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Place though, where he finished with a five hundred record.
He was above five hundred at every destination as a
head coach.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
You want to know why we were eight and eight
because it took us literally five games to be in
the type of shape that he wanted us to be in.
Like guys had playoff record, guys had never worked that
hard maybe ever in their lives. That he brought in
a dude by the name of Red Man. That was
(27:18):
that was his uh, the tobacco, his strength coach, Red Man.
He was thrown off. That was when I was first
introduced to Olympic lifting, like hip thrusters, all that stuff.
And well, here's what's crazy, right, it did play. I mean,
my legs don't bro but I mean we were strong.
(27:41):
We missed. We missed five games because we weren't in shape.
We won pretty much the rest of the games because
we were in shape. Dudes weren't getting hurt. We were
stronger than dudes. As the season wore on, Marty had
it going in the right direction, but too many people
were uncomfortable with him, and they got rid of them.
So the point I'm making is is that if ownership
(28:04):
is too involved, if ownership has created a culture that
is corrosive and toxic to the team having success, and
and the worst thing about it is is they don't
know it. They don't realize how toxic they are and
how how they corrode or or take away the ability
to build culture within the locker room, within the team
(28:25):
and the and the players and the coaches. You're going
to have situations that play out the same exact way
no matter what you do, because you're not allowing somebody
to be there long enough to change the tide, change
change the way the direction of this big ass boat
and the way that is going. And that's what's taking
place these days, like a place like Tennessee is not
(28:47):
allowing for somebody to be in there long enough to
change the course of what what the franchise should look like.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I have a conspiracy theory I would like to like
to you need the music, h yeah, yeah, there we go.
I believe that the reason the Titans pulled the plug
on Brian Callahan now is because Mike Rabel's coming to
town this week, and Mike Rabel is a reminder of
(29:17):
maybe we screwed that up. And so if we get
rid of Brian Callahan now, who was hired after Mike Rabel,
then it kind of gives us a little bit of
a built in excuse if we get wiped out, like, hey, listen,
we're transitioning. We've got an interim head coach here. Because
if you were so uninspired by Brian Callahan as a
coach to where he had to give up play calling
(29:38):
duties already you got rid of the front office guy
who brought him in, then you don't want everybody to
look at what you are and what you could have
been had you just been a little bit more patient.
So at least this way, they've got a little bit
of a built in excuse, like, hey, look, we're going
through some things, we're developing. We've got an interim head coach.
It's not as bad as it's seems. We've got some
(30:01):
plan here in some sort of direction. Otherwise, why are
you doing this? What five games into the season, what's
the point we're not even at Halloween and they're out
of out of a coach because the stink. Okay, but
five games into the season, that's going to help develop
your quarterback. You're number one overall this that's gonna help
(30:21):
develop him.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
No, they got to find a person that's going to
develop him. But it's okay to just let him get
some some real game reps until they do. Just gis
some of these real game reps this year. We're going
to bring in somebody to help develop you in the
offseason and we're going to get things right. Same thing
they did with Caleb Williams. You know, give her it
his coach, find a guy that that wants to, you know,
(30:44):
take on that challenge. Same thing they did with Tua,
Like that's the new norm.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I do wonder too if there was a little bit of.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Behind the scenes when you know, Brian Callahan may have
gotten frustrated with someone with Cambore. He talked about it,
and I want to say one of his final press
conferences that just cam Ward needs to play better too.
And if you look at you know, some of the
guys who're they're kind of time to throw who holds
onto the football? Cam Ward holds onto the football the
(31:15):
fifth most of any starting quarterback that qualifies. So basically,
if you've thrown fifty three attempts or more, you're you're
in this category. He holds on the football for almost
three seconds, which is is really long. Like usually you know,
if you look at for example, Rogers, there's some of
the top guys two and a half seconds, Mahomes two
(31:36):
point six seconds, and I know it's like, all right,
we're talking about like half a second. That half a
second is the difference between a sack, a tip ball, misthrow,
whatever happens. I mean, you could go in that lift
Stafford two point six'. Eight so the general you, know
two point seven For. Baker the general point, IS i
do wonder if there's a sense of frustration with Cam
(32:00):
more in his kind of style of, play how he was,
playing because you, know looking at him From, miami looking
at him At, tennessee you know he's gonna hold on the,
football he's gonna try to make a, play he's gonna
try to do. Something, unfortunately with with the way THE nfl,
is it's really hard to do the same things you
did in college in THE. Nfl and there's gonna be
times too where you just get flat out sacked where
(32:21):
you think you're gonna be able to be a better
athlete than the guys you're going up against on, defense
and you quickly realize these guys are are much better
than what was at the other. Level SO i kind
of wonder if there was like a growing sense of
frustration where you, know maybe there was an, argument maybe
there was like a you, know the the you, know
you just kind of got to a boiling point Between
(32:43):
Brian callahan And Cam. Woden the whole thing behind the
scenes maybe didn't get, out but maybe that was like
one of the breaking points too for the organization saying all,
right like now's the, time like.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
We just we need to move. On this isn't this
isn't good for anyone.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
INVOLVED i, mean they got a long road to go
to how to become a good and competitive team and
they probably are going to get that ass spanked By
Mike rabel and and The. Patriots it's interesting because you
gotta believe that he's petty. Too you gotta Believe Mike
(33:15):
rabel is going to be, petty so whatever it is
he can do to stick it in and then and
then turn. It turn the. Knife you know it isn't
but it is. Right fire and get your get, back
get your get, right you know WHAT i. Mean but
it could be considered to be petty just the way
he may. Do something might be an extra, score might
(33:37):
be a moment where they call time out to get
an extra you, know a little few points on the,
board or whatever it may. Be but they did fire,
you they, did so you gotta deal with what comes
along with. That and you gotta deal with. It what
twice a year they, played aren't they in the same
in The, South south And? East? Yeah all, right well never,
(33:58):
mind then you have to deal with the work one.
TIME i, mean maybe should The titans be?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
RELEGATED i Know brady's brought up the relegation system in,
soccer like could maybe The titans just be, relegated like
who's who's the best team in the A sec right?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Now that you could just swap.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Out miami Probably, Miami, yeah bring up bring up The hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
And or maybe the punishment is is that if you're
as bad as The titans or The, jets you have
to play. Overseas LIKE i, mean if you're really.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Really looking into the.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Future if you're really looking in the, future that is
like kind of an interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
THING i love, it, MAN i, Really.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I'm, LIKE i would love to see that where because
because that's what you have in in you, Know English Premier.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
League so it's other leagues you, have you, know bigger,
cities you know.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Who are you, know able to pay you know more
and have bigger stadiums and all that for, somebody some smaller. Clubs,
somebody smaller clubs find their way up and then once
they get paid for THE TV.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Metea rites, deal they build on the roster and hopefully
they stay up there and continue to.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Build it doesn't always happen that, way but it'd be
fascinating to, see like if all of a sudden one,
day you, know you had like The jets were relegant
and The buckeyes were promoted up in THE.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Nfl you want to know at one point in, TIME
i believe it was like in the, Eighties, WELL i
forget exactly when busy like the College All, stars, yeah
and All stars used to to play against a pro, Team,
YEAH i. REMEMBER i don't know if it Was belichick
that told the story with somebody that told the story
(35:38):
about how they saw Sweetness Walter peyton playing in This
All star game AGAINST i want to, say The, steelers
and they said he was busting their. Asses they Said
Walter peyton was making them dudes like they was sitting
(36:00):
there like. Wow and he's a college, guy he's College all,
star small college guyo, spanking, Spanking AND i want to,
say that was like The Steel curtain spanking. Them, YEAH
i mean that would be the. Seventies i'm just saying
it's kind of. Wild BUT i mean to think where
(36:23):
we are now with, nil how long guys may stay in.
COLLEGE i, mean you have you you probably have a
fair share of guys that are in college that are
older than guys that are in the. Pros that's.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
True so it's not a, lot but it's.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
TRUE i mean, AGAIN i, MEAN i don't at least
the same. Age you, know at least twenty, one twenty,
two range twenty three. Old and.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
We're going out for uh you know on.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Provo oh they're, old they go out on their they
go out on their. Missions come back two years, later
twenty six years. Old i'll come back get their game
on ron as men. FAMILIES i was knocking on doors
last week now Now i'm knocking its.
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NOx yeah, right, yeah there you.
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Moore he's now back In chicago after Spending monday night
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Speaker 3 (39:02):
Shot he took to mean a personal story talking about your.
Growing that's just is it normal to stay over? Night
not for, THAT i don't. Think, no that means like
he got tapped up a little. Bit what do you
mean by? That like they needed to monitor that, situation
(39:25):
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Okay just you, know when you're you're spending the night
at a hospital while the team flies back, home and
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About, it and you're calling it you're. Growing BUT i
think we all know that it's you're, growing if you
know WHAT i. Mean, Huh now you're, Growing you're. Growing,
yeah there might be some issues we have they had to. Watch,
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, well go toddzos. That's a wrap.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's that serious. Jo yep, seeing the world serious.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Lado gold Dodzos. This is your governor speaking. I'll be back.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it's not just not going well from Milwaukee, which
is just a damn shame. Just such a such a
lovable fan base, so much to like about that, that organization,
that fan base. So it's just wow, just a shame.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Is that coming from a Cubs fan. I think he's
being sarcastic. I heard in his voice, love Pat Murphy.
The fan base is a bit much, my two sons.
The TV stations are a bit much. Oh yeah, you gotta.
We got we got being kid nappings. We got a
(02:29):
home shopping network, you can get that for eighty nine
ninety five, and we got a TV evangelist on one.
I just you know, all right, okay, lot going on? Man,
what do y'all be doing during the Ben Milor Show?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Man?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Like Ben, what are y'all doing. Man, were working hard.
So y'all don't see the TV. Don't watch them one bit. Okay,
Well there you go. Sounds a lot like that series
between the Dodgers and the Brewers. It definitely does, because
I didn't watch it, certainly didn't didn't have it on
my TV screen. You know what, a couple more games
(03:07):
get to the World Series. I watched that. I can
manage one game at a time. Man, is that pretty good?
But you guys go right ahead. I mean, I know
Q was a big time baseball player. You know you
your your son's going to be a big time saw
the film. He's want to be a big time baseball
not after yesterday, No, it went, it went downhill yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I mean, he got back on the horse, so to speak.
But we I don't know why. I thought this was
a good idea.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So it rained and.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The park we play at was kind of destroyed, so
we couldn't actually go play yesterday, and so I said,
you know, we'll just go in the backyard and play catch.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So we'll just throw the ball around.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
That's fine, And I got an actual baseball out because
I thought, you know, I think he's ready for this.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
And you're hitting with.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It right in the nose, right in the beat. Yeah, yeah,
you're a horrible bro. Like they, I can't control the
natural action I have on my fastball, like listen, did
some people just have that gift?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And how do you have a natural fastball that would
hit him in his nose? Because he thought it was
going one place and it went somewhere else. You know,
So y'all were playing catch, he wasn't swinging a little
two seam action if you will, and you're and you're
happy about it, like you're bragging about the decent movement
for you know, in a warm up session, little bullpen session.
(04:37):
It's a decent movement on that fastball.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But it hit him, just mistimed it, and uh, you know,
he was crying.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
He was very upset.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And I waited until his mom left and I said,
you want to go back out there and try it again,
and he did, and he caught the ball before him
because she was not she was not about that at
that point. So mom wasn't no, no, no, no, no, she was,
what are you doing? Why'd you think that was a
(05:07):
good idea? And there's I have no response, there's nothing.
It's like everything she said is valid. Those are fair questions.
I don't know what I was thinking, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But you're not supposed to get shamed for being a
dad that's teaching his young boy to be a young man.
You can't get shamed for that. That's what you're doing.
Like you know, kids have replaced baseball bats and hockey
sticks for street hockey and street baseball and basketball and
(05:40):
at the neighborhood gym and or at the neighborhood park
with Dorito's and funians the remote controls and cell phones. Yeah,
kids don't go outside anymore, man, They don't play, they
don't do physical activities, and then they end up being
obese and overweight, looking like me, damn, and complaining about
(06:05):
why life is unfitandrastically, where do we go? Leave you
to hell? Leave you, leave you to hell alone. Let that.
Let let let little man get hitting the gad dang face.
Know what pain feels like, pain, Know what it feels
like to get through the pain and get back at it.
(06:28):
I'm just saying, yeah, well, hell, I'm just saying, if.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
He ends up with it, daddy, if he ends up
with a deviated septum when he's older.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
You know, that's we know when it happened, so well,
it was worth it. Y'all had a father son moment.
He'll never forget it. It'll be a story daddy tales.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
By the way, speaking older, Yeah, what are you guys
thoughts on? I believe Cam Hayward came up with this
name for the Steelers Bengals game coming up on Thursday night,
the Icy Hot Bowl between Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco.
A couple of forty plus year old quarterbacks going out
there slinging it. Last time this happened. Only time it
(07:09):
happened Tom Brady Drew Brees back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So we've got Rogers, We've got Flacco. Might as well
puol Q in there. You want to go get it?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
You want some of that c I'd throw like a
few passes, Yeah, I'd be about it.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Y'all have the same age, right, you same age as
like Aaron Rodgers, right.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Uh, he's older by like a year or two. I
think I think it was like two classes, but like
one year age wise, and then Flacco is a year
or two younger something like that.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I'm somewhere in the middle. I guess okay, But my
question is last one we saw was Brady Brees.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Will this become a more of a common occurrence to
you guys, or do you think, actually this is a
rarity because you're just you're not gonna see guys play
as long in part, like I look at the style
of play I have some of the guys, and I
think it was I think who we were talking.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
About, but maybe it was Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
There's an he's scrambled and run more this year than
ever before, and usually that leads to you know, injuries
and and everything that comes along with with being outside
the pocket where you're not protected. And one of the
reasons why I think guys are able to play so
long in the pocket is because of all the protection
that the NFL gives you. So I'm not sure like
(08:29):
which way this is gonna go. Like I look at Flacco,
and the opportunity has been given and a lot of
it's he is a Super Bowl winning quarterback, super Bowl MVP.
He's played well enough for long enough to be able
to warrant the opportunity, but there's also still a need
because there's injuries. So I'm not sure if this is
gonna be like more of a common occurrence. We should
(08:50):
expect to see this more often, or if we should
appreciate it, because when Rogers is done, when Flaco decides
to hang it up, like, I'm not sure who that
old head's going to be, And in part two, like
guys being paid up really well, maybe to the point
where they get to like year twelve thirteen, they're like, yeah,
I'm not doing this for twenty years. Yeah, I'd rather
(09:10):
just kind of move on with.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Life, That's what I But y'all got it the easiest.
Y'all got it the hardest, but you have at theiot easiest.
You know, It's like, y'all have a point.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But that doesn't change anything what I just said.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
I think it changes the idea of playing. As long
as you're going to play based off of I mean,
you're not going to get hurt, and it's even more
safer for quarterbacks. Now, why wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
You just the case because like you know, when you
get older, like Aaron Rodgers, he runs out of the
tunnel in four plays literally pops his achilles.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, well, if you're popping on achilles, I get that.
But if if you're not, and you're okay to play.
I'm taking that bag and I'm gonna take it until
I'm like fifty years old.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So Dak Prescott recently said that you know something about
wanting to play into your forties. I think he's thirty two,
thirty three, and if your deck, he's.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Got a whole other decades.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You're all right, let's say this guy, it's like another
half of your career.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
But they don't let you bro if they graze, if
they if they breathe on a quarterback wrong. These days,
you're getting penalized. I mean, it's this is very frustrating
for you. The way they've made it. You get to
pay for as long as you want to play, as
long as you can throw.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Yeah, but these guys probably are bigger, faster, stronger than
ever before, right, I mean, they're more explosive, they're better athletes.
Like I think you're kind of missing the point of
doesn't matter if they're protected. Dude's still getting injured. Guys
are still getting knocked the hell out.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Man, I'm not missing none of your points. Player, I'm
telling you right now, you live mother efforts can play
as long as y'all want to play, because they out
there with a defense man. We just got it so
hard over here. Yeah, we do hold out here. Defense
hold out here for a player had many and everything. Yeah,
(11:08):
I mean, see how these spoiled ass brats be talking.
See see how it plays out. Now, y'all know what
goes on in the locker room. See what goes on.
We're pale with the defense we do walking around with
their golf clubs and stuff like that. Hell yeah, hell yeah,
sons bitches. Yeah, I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Fo.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
That's the only contact y'all be making. Yeah, golf balls.
And the kickers, yeah, kickers too, But no, the qbs
be right with them. They're all, you know, kickers and qb. Yeah,
they'd be right with the be right with them. Not
in the season, definitely, maybe maybe the off season. Spring,
(11:54):
definitely the spring.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But they be key keying about their swings. We be key, kid,
they'd be like crazy, man, like doing walkthroughs and and
training and running and stuff like that. And the quarterbacks
and then and the punters and the kickers they be
over there like yucking it up, you know, swinging clubs
(12:18):
there you go.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And then defenders, hey man, well, we want the club.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, well that is what we do tonight.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
We got what we gotta do.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What they talk, Yeah, we will do what you want
to do. I don't know, it's code. I don't know why.
What are we gonna do? What we gonna do? Huh
you wanna do it? What time? When we're going with?
Pick you up. I'll pick you up and we get showered.
Give me twenty minutes, meet you out front.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
All right?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Cats come back ca cats come backing out the door, backwards,
going down the stairs of their their town home, looking
around like you're really about to go on a caper.
You get up in the car, you dap your boy yet,
let's right, that's right. And I got him too, by
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the way. I go up in there with my QB
we rolling out. I got ain't nobody gonna mess with.
I protect him better than the old linemanwood on the field.
I tell you that, don't message with.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
There's this other thing I'll say to LeVar about that point,
is you go with the QB.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's gonna be a different experience. Oh, you get everything,
You get everything. I was always close with the QB's
You get everything. When people be acting like they know
the quarterback. Hey man, I ain't doing good to see.
We got you set up. You're all good right here?
You ain't like all right? Thanks?
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Then we get in there and it gets in there,
and all you got to do is be humble like
y'all can't all have me, y'all can't all have him,
and one of y'all gonna be bad as hell, and
you the odd man out, and I'm gonna be right
here to clean up man right here. Sorry, Brady's beautiful,
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but they all up on him. I might be ugly,
but I'm nice to talk to. There's only one a
m I can console you from not being aggressive enough
to win. Clearly it played out and you weren't on top.
I could call you a loser, but I'm gonna just
say that you didn't get there in time. I want
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to build you up. I don't want to break you down.
We can be friends, not for a long time before
a good time and a short time. There you go.
That's all with the QB. Now we go in there
by ourselves. It's like, hey man, a man, give me
like you just use a.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Rick Asley line.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
What I won't be here for a long time for
but for a good time, A good time. I felt you.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Said something about like never gonna I don't know if
you said never gonna give.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You up or let you down. I'm not here the well,
I don't know. I don't know us. Literally, I was
like this said.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Lyrics, maybe.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
A good song let you down? Exactly? Is that the
origin of Rick Rold? I think that's where they came from,
isn't it? Is it? I don't even know what the
hell that is?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Like when you pretend like you're gonna show somebody a
video and that song comes on because it just jumps
to you most positive? Okay, and could you fact check
that please? I just want to make no that's correct
for sure? Okay, yeah, Rick Rold.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh yeah, that's when when all the girls get taken
up by Brady, we're gonna make you that one that
got left by yourself or two or three. I'm gonna
choose one of you three because now I'm the chooser.
We're no strangers to love, So when are we doing this?
(15:54):
We know the rules. You tried to get the Brady,
you couldn't get to them, and now you're here.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Someone gonna make this their opener for a minute.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
You gotta wait a little while. I just want to
tell you how I'm feeling right now. Because you got time,
I can make you understand. Yeah it get the farc
not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna ride around
and desert you girls. Yeah, I'm not gonna make you
cry like Brady Dead. I'm not gonna say goodbye. I'm
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not gonna tell you a lie and hurt you girl.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Love you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Hey, but I got my own little groupie club because
they couldn't get the Q winning winning. When the QB
wants to, Hey, all, y'all young bucks out there, When
the QB wants to go hang out? Which you go
hang out with? You QB? Get in good which QB.
(16:51):
You ain't got to just be the wide receiver or
or the center of the offensive line. Get in good
which QB?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Man?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Because that is real life.
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We'll have another edition of in case you missed it
coming up here in about twenty minutes from now. Mike
McCoy is now the interim head coach for the Tennessee Titans.
He's got the task of trying to help develop, at
least while he's there, one cam Ward, the number one
overall pick in the draft, upon the firing of Brian
Callahan and Mike McCoy talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
That's going to be our number one focus is, you know,
how do we get cam to be more efficient, you know,
and have more success. But it's not just him. There's
ten other guys in the field with him that I've
got to do their jobs better too. So we got
to we all have to do our jobs there, coaching,
playing everybody. But I think there's the good and the bad,
and as a young player, as a rookie, there's gonna
(20:10):
be some bumps in the road. It's it's going to happen.
I mean, it doesn't matter what position you're going to
play in this league, especially quarterbacks the hardest position to play.
So you know, there's there's some really good things, and
then there's some things that you want to say, what
are we doing? And but our the number one focus
has got to be, Okay, how do we minimize the
mistakes and get more of the good you know, more production.
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But that that's that's all eleven on offense working together
and being more efficient.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Titans intermed coach Mike McCoy. There also should be noted
Brian Callahan's dad, Bill Callahan, no longer on the staff
as the offensive line coach. I can't imagine that would
have been very comfortable situation for anybody if his son
just got clipped and he's still the on lion coach.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
There seems like yeah, but at the same time, I mean,
you know the job, you're signed up out right, Yeah. Yeah,
Like there's that element of things. And I don't remember
when Brian Callahan got the job, many thought like, hey,
that one of the enticing things about Brian Callahan is
he's the son of Bill Callahan. He's one of the
best offensive line coaches in the league, and so there
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was a thought that that was I don't want to
say a package deal, but that was definitely part of
the upside of hiring Brian Callahan, who is a you
know again a young, you know, well spoken, good offensive mind.
You build up his reputation from his time in Cincinnati,
but you know clearly he wasn't given enough time to
do much of anything with this team or with with
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this roster. I mean, even if you think about it
from the standpoint of all right, LeVar takes over as
head coach, and.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Year one he's got one general manager. In year two
they already fired him. He's got another one.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Like, think about the conversations that you're having with that guy,
whoever that is, you know, about how you go about
seeing you know, the quarterback, the attributes you're looking for,
building the offensive line, build, you know, building out what
these players look like. So the whole thing, to me
is still a disaster. It's it's still a mess. I
(22:13):
do think the upside is for cam Ward. Look, Mike
McCoy played in this league. He's uh, he'd be played
for four or five years as a quarterback. He's been
in the league as a coach for a long time.
You know, I've spent time with him. He's a smart coach.
He's a good play caller. He will put cam Ward
in a position to help him grow and help him
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hopefully succeed. But like I don't look at it and say,
all right, Brian Callahan was the issue with this team.
This roster is not competitive enough. They've got some pieces
and Cam Word can throw to Calvin Ridley all day,
but that's only going to get you so far in
the NFL. So that's the tough part is you're making
a change for again. I don't want to say change
his sake, but whoever was in the hiring process in
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the first place probably should have looked themselves in the
here and say, if we don't give the next guy,
I don't know, four years, we're never gonna see what
this thing can be. And it's going to be ugly
early because we're not in a position right now to
win a lot of football games.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
And then you have casualties, casualties from number one overall
draft picks to draft picks all through the draft, to
undrafted free agents that would have had fear opportunities to
have pretty decent careers, to better careers to Hall of
Fame careers if they weren't drafted into a situation like
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the one they're in right now. Always going to be
casualties to these types of situations. Like you said three
to four, four to five, that used to be standard
time for a coach to come in see what he
needs to see, evaluate the situation, make sure that you're
(23:57):
building a proper culture, like two to three years before
you start seeing the results of a buildout. You know,
people want homes to be built in a day. Like
if you were fortunate enough to ever design and build
your own home, I think you find out that the
(24:18):
lesson learned than that is patience and understanding, and you're
not going to get it when you want it. You're
going to get it when it's done. And people don't
in today's culture. They don't society, they don't understand time.
And I don't understand when this became a thing with
(24:40):
ownership to start making such quick, knee jerk reaction decisions
on coaching staffs. There's only so many times you can switch.
Like when I was talking about Washington back in the
day before it became evident that there was some thing
(25:00):
wrong organizationally speaking at the top with leadership, it's like
you bring in, like listen to this, this list of coaches.
I come in, I'm drafted. We have Norv Turner. North
gets released, relieved of his duties during the season after
we lost to Dallas. Terry Rabisky takes over. Terry Rabisky
(25:20):
takes over. Good dude. Then then comes Marty Schottenheimer. They
didn't like the fact that Marty didn't want them to like,
get out of the way. Don't have me coaching and
managing you as owners while I'm trying to coach and
(25:41):
manage my team players and coaches. They ain't like that.
Get rid of him after one year. Then they bring
in Spurrier. He gets two years. Hey, nobody's fault didn't
work out. We're all pros. You know they had my coach. Hey,
(26:02):
I'll take a leave. Then then they bring in Joe Gibbs. Now,
Joe Gibbs got further than anybody else. He made it
to the playoffs, but even he couldn't handle it and
he had to leave. Nobody could handle the conditions that
they were placed in while going to Washington. And then
Jim Zorn got two years. When you get the bro
(26:24):
it keeps going and coaching carousel kept going. The bottom line,
good God, no, God, good no.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I'll just say I don't think people realize how good
of a coach.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Marty Schottenheimer was do you know he coached and no
stop was never below five hundred. The only place San Diego,
Kansas City, Cleveland, and then obviously a year in Washington he.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Was eight and eight. That's the only.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Place though, where he finished with a five hundred record.
He was above five hundred at every destination as a
head coach.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
You want to know why we were eight and eight
because it took us literally five games to be in
the type of shape that he wanted us to be in.
Like guys had playoff record, guys had never worked that
hard maybe ever in their lives. That he brought in
a dude by the name of Red Man. That was
(27:18):
that was his uh, the tobacco, his strength coach, Red Man.
He was thrown off. That was when I was first
introduced to Olympic lifting, like hip thrusters, all that stuff.
And well, here's what's crazy, right, it did play. I mean,
my legs don't bro but I mean we were strong.
(27:41):
We missed. We missed five games because we weren't in shape.
We won pretty much the rest of the games because
we were in shape. Dudes weren't getting hurt. We were
stronger than dudes. As the season wore on, Marty had
it going in the right direction, but too many people
were uncomfortable with him, and they got rid of them.
So the point I'm making is is that if ownership
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is too involved, if ownership has created a culture that
is corrosive and toxic to the team having success, and
and the worst thing about it is is they don't
know it. They don't realize how toxic they are and
how how they corrode or or take away the ability
to build culture within the locker room, within the team
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and the and the players and the coaches. You're going
to have situations that play out the same exact way
no matter what you do, because you're not allowing somebody
to be there long enough to change the tide, change
change the way the direction of this big ass boat
and the way that is going. And that's what's taking
place these days, like a place like Tennessee is not
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allowing for somebody to be in there long enough to
change the course of what what the franchise should look like.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I have a conspiracy theory I would like to like
to you need the music, h yeah, yeah, there we go.
I believe that the reason the Titans pulled the plug
on Brian Callahan now is because Mike Rabel's coming to
town this week, and Mike Rabel is a reminder of
(29:17):
maybe we screwed that up. And so if we get
rid of Brian Callahan now, who was hired after Mike Rabel,
then it kind of gives us a little bit of
a built in excuse if we get wiped out, like, hey, listen,
we're transitioning. We've got an interim head coach here. Because
if you were so uninspired by Brian Callahan as a
coach to where he had to give up play calling
(29:38):
duties already you got rid of the front office guy
who brought him in, then you don't want everybody to
look at what you are and what you could have
been had you just been a little bit more patient.
So at least this way, they've got a little bit
of a built in excuse, like, hey, look, we're going
through some things, we're developing. We've got an interim head coach.
It's not as bad as it's seems. We've got some
(30:01):
plan here in some sort of direction. Otherwise, why are
you doing this? What five games into the season, what's
the point we're not even at Halloween and they're out
of out of a coach because the stink. Okay, but
five games into the season, that's going to help develop
your quarterback. You're number one overall this that's gonna help
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develop him.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
No, they got to find a person that's going to
develop him. But it's okay to just let him get
some some real game reps until they do. Just gis
some of these real game reps this year. We're going
to bring in somebody to help develop you in the
offseason and we're going to get things right. Same thing
they did with Caleb Williams. You know, give her it
his coach, find a guy that that wants to, you know,
(30:44):
take on that challenge. Same thing they did with Tua,
Like that's the new norm.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I do wonder too if there was a little bit of.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Behind the scenes when you know, Brian Callahan may have
gotten frustrated with someone with Cambore. He talked about it,
and I want to say one of his final press
conferences that just cam Ward needs to play better too.
And if you look at you know, some of the
guys who're they're kind of time to throw who holds
onto the football? Cam Ward holds onto the football the
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fifth most of any starting quarterback that qualifies. So basically,
if you've thrown fifty three attempts or more, you're you're
in this category. He holds on the football for almost
three seconds, which is is really long. Like usually you know,
if you look at for example, Rogers, there's some of
the top guys two and a half seconds, Mahomes two
(31:36):
point six seconds, and I know it's like, all right,
we're talking about like half a second. That half a
second is the difference between a sack, a tip ball, misthrow,
whatever happens. I mean, you could go in that lift
Stafford two point six'. Eight so the general you, know
two point seven For. Baker the general point, IS i
do wonder if there's a sense of frustration with Cam
(32:00):
more in his kind of style of, play how he was,
playing because you, know looking at him From, miami looking
at him At, tennessee you know he's gonna hold on the,
football he's gonna try to make a, play he's gonna
try to do. Something, unfortunately with with the way THE nfl,
is it's really hard to do the same things you
did in college in THE. Nfl and there's gonna be
times too where you just get flat out sacked where
(32:21):
you think you're gonna be able to be a better
athlete than the guys you're going up against on, defense
and you quickly realize these guys are are much better
than what was at the other. Level SO i kind
of wonder if there was like a growing sense of
frustration where you, know maybe there was an, argument maybe
there was like a you, know the the you, know
you just kind of got to a boiling point Between
(32:43):
Brian callahan And Cam. Woden the whole thing behind the
scenes maybe didn't get, out but maybe that was like
one of the breaking points too for the organization saying all,
right like now's the, time like.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
We just we need to move. On this isn't this
isn't good for anyone.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
INVOLVED i, mean they got a long road to go
to how to become a good and competitive team and
they probably are going to get that ass spanked By
Mike rabel and and The. Patriots it's interesting because you
gotta believe that he's petty. Too you gotta Believe Mike
(33:15):
rabel is going to be, petty so whatever it is
he can do to stick it in and then and
then turn. It turn the. Knife you know it isn't
but it is. Right fire and get your get, back
get your get, right you know WHAT i. Mean but
it could be considered to be petty just the way
he may. Do something might be an extra, score might
(33:37):
be a moment where they call time out to get
an extra you, know a little few points on the,
board or whatever it may. Be but they did fire,
you they, did so you gotta deal with what comes
along with. That and you gotta deal with. It what
twice a year they, played aren't they in the same
in The, South south And? East? Yeah all, right well never,
(33:58):
mind then you have to deal with the work one.
TIME i, mean maybe should The titans be?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
RELEGATED i Know brady's brought up the relegation system in,
soccer like could maybe The titans just be, relegated like
who's who's the best team in the A sec right?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Now that you could just swap.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Out miami Probably, Miami, yeah bring up bring up The hurricanes.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
And or maybe the punishment is is that if you're
as bad as The titans or The, jets you have
to play. Overseas LIKE i, mean if you're really.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Really looking into the.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Future if you're really looking in the, future that is
like kind of an interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
THING i love, it, MAN i, Really.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
I'm, LIKE i would love to see that where because
because that's what you have in in you, Know English Premier.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
League so it's other leagues you, have you, know bigger,
cities you know.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Who are you, know able to pay you know more
and have bigger stadiums and all that for, somebody some smaller. Clubs,
somebody smaller clubs find their way up and then once
they get paid for THE TV.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Metea rites, deal they build on the roster and hopefully
they stay up there and continue to.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Build it doesn't always happen that, way but it'd be
fascinating to, see like if all of a sudden one,
day you, know you had like The jets were relegant
and The buckeyes were promoted up in THE.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Nfl you want to know at one point in, TIME
i believe it was like in the, Eighties, WELL i
forget exactly when busy like the College All, stars, yeah
and All stars used to to play against a pro, Team,
YEAH i. REMEMBER i don't know if it Was belichick
that told the story with somebody that told the story
(35:38):
about how they saw Sweetness Walter peyton playing in This
All star game AGAINST i want to, say The, steelers
and they said he was busting their. Asses they Said
Walter peyton was making them dudes like they was sitting
(36:00):
there like. Wow and he's a college, guy he's College all,
star small college guyo, spanking, Spanking AND i want to,
say that was like The Steel curtain spanking. Them, YEAH
i mean that would be the. Seventies i'm just saying
it's kind of. Wild BUT i mean to think where
(36:23):
we are now with, nil how long guys may stay in.
COLLEGE i, mean you have you you probably have a
fair share of guys that are in college that are
older than guys that are in the. Pros that's.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
True so it's not a, lot but it's.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
TRUE i mean, AGAIN i, MEAN i don't at least
the same. Age you, know at least twenty, one twenty,
two range twenty three. Old and.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
We're going out for uh you know on.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Provo oh they're, old they go out on their they
go out on their. Missions come back two years, later
twenty six years. Old i'll come back get their game
on ron as men. FAMILIES i was knocking on doors
last week now Now i'm knocking its.
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Moore he's now back In chicago after Spending monday night
in A, WASHINGTON dc area. Hospital he'd been evaluated or,
reevaluate i should, say for a groin injury that he
suffered On monday night football against The. Commanders head Coach
Ben johnson declined to comment any further on, it though
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(38:59):
now considered to. Day but, guys this must have been
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Speaker 3 (39:02):
Shot he took to mean a personal story talking about your.
Growing that's just is it normal to stay over? Night
not for, THAT i don't. Think, no that means like
he got tapped up a little. Bit what do you
mean by? That like they needed to monitor that, situation
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and it's a personal, situation as the coach made it very,
clear very sensitive. SITUATION i hope he's, okay, man that's
What that's What i'll. SAY i hope he's.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Okay just you, know when you're you're spending the night
at a hospital while the team flies back, home and
the coach doesn't want to talk.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
About, it and you're calling it you're. Growing BUT i
think we all know that it's you're, growing if you
know WHAT i. Mean, Huh now you're, Growing you're. Growing,
yeah there might be some issues we have they had to. Watch,
(40:05):
yeah that's. Unfortunate, no that's fortunate that they got into
a place for them to take care of them and
watch over. THEM i hope you're, okay my, friend
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