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Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Dan Hurley turning down the Lakers offer says a lot about the state of the franchise. Jerod Mayo and other NFL coaches grapple with the changes to the kickoff. Plus, an all-time email exchange with Bill Belichick and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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the Los Angeles Lakers and Dan Hurley. Now, what do
the Lakers do? And why did Dan Hurley make the decision?
We will discuss all of that for you here. We're
also going to talk about a brand new change in
the NFL and one coach who's a little bit confused
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Speaker 3 (02:03):
There?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Was a giant gust of wind from the west coast
yesterday and now now that gust of wind was the
swing and the miss for the La Lakers on Dan Hurley,
Oh and down they go, Yeah, big time swinging a miss.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You know what, I gotta tell you, I was dead wrong.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And I think part of it is is maybe I
just in my mind have this misconception of what the
Lakers are and how they're viewed.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean, are the Lakers not viewed?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Is that story to a franchise that like, you can't
turn down this job, this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
The history is there the Laker Like it's like they
have so much, so many great moments, great tradition, but
it kind of has that feeling like Miami football, where
we remember Miami football as being man, they were the
U it was, it was different. And then you look
back and you go, that's kind of been a long
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long time since they won real big games. I know
they won the Bubble Championship, but before that, we're talking
what fifteen years ago, Like, it's not like this is
recent success they've had. And I just wonder if people
look at that as opposed to just the name on
the front and everything that comes along with it.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
See, to me, when I look at the situation, it
is a storied franchise.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
It is.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
A franchise that has tremendous relevance. Even if that relevance
is more rooted in the past, it's still a tremendous
job and a tremendous franchise historically speaking and reputationally speaking.
I just, for me, I just think that it's it's
almost like Washington in how Washington was in football, where
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you had a foundation built by a different owner, and
since there's been new ownership that has taken place, I
just think that there is a cultural, a cultural situation
that has developed in LA And I just don't know
that if you're looking at the last three or four
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coaches from Byron Scott to Luke Walton to Vogel to Ham,
they they don't make it out of four years, four
years and tops and you're out. I just I think
that it is a more volatile job because of how
high profile the franchise is and if you're not if
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you're not going to this team with the idea and
the understanding that I have two to four years to
get this done, and the likelihood is outside of the
last guys I've been here. It's probably more on the
side that I'm out after four than it is that
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I'm in. I just think that that's a hard if
you have a situation like Hurley. I just think that
that's a hard decision to make to walk away from
stability and success at that level to go to the
next level and have so much uncertainty as to what
your future looks like. Other than there's the strong possibility
(05:24):
that I'm going to be out of here in two
to four years, Well, that's hard.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Think about this.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Though He's turned down two legendary programs or teams Kentucky
earlier this offseason, stayed with Yukon, which you might say, well,
that makes maybe more sense because he's at the college level,
same level. Yukon's got a storied history and tradition as well,
and he's built that program up where he'd maybe be
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having to do something similar to.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That to Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And I also think that Dan Hurley's probably overly concerned
with this.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
He made that move.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
We live in a world in college basketball now where
it would have decimated Yukon. Everything he did at Yukon.
It could have decimated them, because he woulduld have gotten
a lot of those players to transfer immediately to Kentucky
and bring all those players with them, which you know,
maybe he had some feelings about doing that, considering the
opportunity of Yukon gave him the success they've had, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Maybe not who knows, but now the Lakers as well.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And so I look at this and just go, all right,
maybe I'm messed up because I keep looking.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
At this thinking like, is this not the Lakers?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Is this not like one of those storied franchises you have,
you know, shows about movies about I mean, is this
not the one that if you could bring it back
to being at the top of the NBA, you would
be king in that realm? Which leads me to think
if because I think those things are right, I think
it's more of a matter of, you know, whatever was
(06:54):
offered to him or whatever the situation that's presented isn't
to his liking.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And I don't know if that was.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
The contract, if they, you know, couldn't pay him significantly
more than he was getting from Yukon in order to
persuade him not to be there. I've heard, you know,
people talk about the Stydingham tax and maybe that plays
a factor, even though let's be real, it's not like
Connecticut doesn't have high taxes too. You know, I've heard
people throughout that theory. I wonder though, how much Lebron
(07:23):
his impact plays a role in Yeah, you might interview
with Rob Polenka, but at the end of the day,
it's still Lebron behind the scenes, pulling the strings.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I don't think he takes the interview if he wasn't
comfortable with the Lebron James scenario.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
See, I think you take it to figure out what
that scenario is.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I think you find out before you. I think you
have a good idea before you fly out. And yeah, maybe,
but but.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You've got to hear them to and ask those questions,
those pointy questions, Like you could talk to Rich Paul,
you could talk to even Lebron, But when you go
out there, you're gonna be talking to all the people
of the organization, you know, whether it's Jenny Buss or
lat Polinka or any When you're looking him dead in
the face and you're saying, all right, what is the
situation here? Because whatever, until you've gathered, you want to
(08:12):
confirm and you want to see what they say, how
they react, what their answer is.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I just I think the.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
General the general pointer question is like, I just wonder
how big of a factor that is in this whole
decision making process to turn this job down.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I would just venture to say I would just venture
to say he probably did some type of information gathering
before it got to the point of saying that I'm
going to entertain.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It just came.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
It just seemed like it came so quickly, the idea
of him getting this job. Everybody talking about Reddick getting
the job, Reddi Reddick, Reddick, Readick, Boom, Hurley.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Hurley wasn't even on the odds list. Remember we read
it off that it wasn't anyone's radar.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
So some thing had to be happening behind the scenes
that people weren't totally aware of what was taking place.
And to the to the tune of him actually going
to see what it is that he was going to
get himself into to your point, Q, But I just
think in the end, when you measure it out and
he weighed out, it was going to come down to
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was he comfortable leaving what he's created for this major
opportunity at the NBA level or at the University of Kentucky,
or do you stay put where it is that you
created your systems.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
You have your your you know, you have your way.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Of doing things and it's been successful, and you got
to ask yourself to question.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
I don't I don't know his family situation. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
There's there's probably a lot more factors that are involved
than just the idea of going to the Lakers versus
staying at Yukon. In terms of coaching, there's probably more,
but just face value. Don't you feel like it's just
a more stable opportunity for him to have longevity versus
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taking a chance and a risk even though it's high high.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Reward or it's super high reward, but it's super high
risk as well.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Sure, I think that that might have been I don't
think that it was anything else other other than that
in the end, like high risk, high reward, Like, but
I did that already with Yukon, and I've built this,
so I would just stay here.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Which is actually why I think it makes more of
the case of leaving. Like look at Nick Saban for example,
when's the national championship at LSU entertains the ability to
go to the Miami Dolphins that doesn't work out comes back,
builds up bigger, better, and the greatest coach of all
time at college football. So to that point, actually, I
would actually make the case that it makes more of
a sense to be able to then leave and go
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explore that and hey, if you crash and burn, all right, whatever,
I know I can build this back up at the
college level.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I've already done it.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I've already had those dominant team back to back years
we've ever seen in the end the tournament. I look
at it this way, and maybe I don't know if
we have music for like a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Do we have that?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Does anyone have Robert Stack in a trench coat somewhere
walking in a dark alley with some steam billowing out.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Like, okay, give us, give us the conspiracy the.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, LaVar, you bring up a good point in the
sense of if he's doing all this data analysis and
everything beforehand, it makes me think this.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It makes me think that maybe he was the.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Candidate all along for the Lakers organization, for a guy
like Rob Polenka. He was there, Golden Goose, He was
the guy that they ultimately really want it, but it
wasn't necessarily the guy that Lebron James really wanted. And
it's why you kept hearing JJ Reddick, and it's why
you kept hearing all these reports that it's basically a
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done deal until after the NBA Finals, when Redick's done
serving out his media commitment. Maybe there's some coaches too
who was gonna kind of evaluate, look at he he
wants to bring on his staff. Till after that was
all the reporting, and then Dan Hurley's name.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Pops up, So it was Lebron counterpunching, not the Lakers counterpunching.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Well, it would have been the Lakers LA counter punching.
Len bring in Dan Hurley as the last second, trying
to make a last ditch effort and saying maybe they
had said to Lebron, hey, if we can.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Get this guy, let's.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Go bring this guy in, and Lebron's like, all right,
do whatever you want to do. But at the end
of the day, he comes out there, he does the interview.
I think he looks at the situation says no, no,
this has Lebron's fingers all over. I can't have the
autonomy that I want to be the coach here and
do the things I'd like to do.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So I'm out. I'm going back to Yukon. Maybe that
was more of the conspiracy theories.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
You've got two different head coaches that are being put
it out there in the media because you've got two
different people behind the scenes trying to make it happen.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I have a conspiracy theory to add to keep the
stack music.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Going, to keep going.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Because Lebron James wants JJ Reddick, and JJ Reddick wants
Lebron James, and Bronni James wants both of them. When
Danny Hurley came out to beautiful Los Angeles, California, there
was a suspicious man that followed Danny Hurley around during
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the course of his visit in time as he went
to the Strand and went to Manhattan Beach to see
the area, and went to visit Rob Low look alike.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
What's his name, Rob Polenka, and.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
That man finally revealed himself to Danny Hurley as a
man with special skills, skills that would let's just say,
be used if he decided to in fact, except this
La Lakers job. And now that he has not accepted
(14:04):
the job, his job is done and JJ Reddick will
be the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Wow, I'm listening. I mean, since we're going here, i'd.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Also that might just be like a theory, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I'd also like to share my conspiracy theory. I mean,
so do one. I'll do one here. I don't think
that the interview actually happened. What I think?
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Wow, now that is conspiracy theory. Yeah, he didn't walk.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
On the moon now like a UFO or something.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I believe that Dan Hurley intended to meet with the Lakers.
He intended to go to the Crypto dot com to
meet with the Lakers, but he couldn't get into the crib.
He couldn't get in there because there were too many
sleeping bags and tents out in front, and he had
(14:59):
no way to get to the front door. And he said,
you know what, I'm going back to Connecticut. This is
too much for me. Thus, JJ Reddick is still in
the running to be the head coach of the LA Lakers.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
And to put a cherry on top, he made sure
that he checked the weather channel to see what the
weather would be flying back and hanging out in Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, that channel looks a little overrated, it does it?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah not to some people.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
That work. I mean if you were going to see
and I would say suspicious.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Bba bb.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Drizzy, Well are they not? Rabbi guess it from all
that corn bread? Oh yeah, yeah.
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That'll be yours here again, coming up in about twenty
minutes from now. There's a new kickoff rule in the NFL.
A lot of people are very confused by it. Jirod Mayo,
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even though we were critical of what the outlook looks
like for them this upcoming season, at least he made
us feel or made me feel like I'm not the
dumbest person on planet Earth, which is an amazing feat
and an amazing accomplishment because he spoke yesterday about the
new kickoff rule and just shared his honest opinion on
what they're expecting and what the look is going to
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be like this upcoming season around the NFL.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
I don't think anyone actually knows how this thing is
going to play out. Look, the rules are still kind
of fluid even as of today. So we watch it
as a staff just because it's one of those plays
where you're trying to get and we talk about collaboration
all the time, but you're trying to get opinions of
the offensive coaches, the defensive coaches, and the special teams coaches,
and also you know, just kind of calling around the
league to see how they think about it. But once again,
(19:13):
I don't think anyone really knows how it's going to
play out. It might just be beneficial you take the
ball out to thirty.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't know, fair point, although I do feel like
there's somebody in the NFL or kind of floating around
the NFL who probably would have this thing figured out
by week one. Bill Belichick. He would be the guy
to me that would have this whole thing figured out.
But nonetheless he is not there. He'll be doing media stuff.
And so now we just wait to see what the
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new NFL kickoff is going to look like moving forward.
Be interesting at least, nice little change here, change of
what well, change of what we've had to where they've
been trying to phase this whole thing out and cancel
it all. At least they're trying to put you know,
paddle boards on the chest to the kickoff and try
and bring it back, you know, which is nice to see.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, that's all you got for us?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, I mean what else like that?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I mean, well, if you listen to the quote or
you read the entire quote for Drod Mayo, he talked
about how most teams will probably just end up electing
to try to kick the ball out of the end zone,
which would then put the ball on the thirty yard line,
and he said, yeah, that's probably what my most teams
are going to do in fear of giving up a
big play, in fear of giving up a big returner
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or big you know, much more field position. Because I
think there's a thought that the way this is constructed,
it's not just constructed to get more kickoff returns and
make it safer, it's constructed also to make it potentially
a big play. And you've got teams like the Kansas
City Chiefs, for example, who.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Signed was it Luis Reese Zemet or something like that.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The rugby player who's super Yeah, he's a superstar, good
looking dude.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
By the way, he's gonna come on that. He's literally
gonna get on that roster.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
And people could be like, oh, everyone thought it was
gonna be like Kelsey and Mahomes getting the shine.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'm just telling you Kill's better watch out man Swift
might be start looking at him.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
He takes a couple of kickoff returns back, Like, wait
a second, but teams are stockpiling guys they feel like
could potentially create big plays or create an impact through
kickoff returns. I mean, it doesn't happen that often, but
it can be game changing in the sense of, you know,
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helping you out when you need to get the ball
closer out to the fifty to go score the final
few minutes of a game, or figure out a way
of just creating an explosive big play. So there's a
thought that at least from an offensive standpoint, this kickoff
rule is way more beneficial to the offense and the defense.
And if that's the case, teams may just sit tell
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the kicker go ahead and boot it out of the
end zone.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
We'll give them the ball at the thirty.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
We feel confident in our ability to be able to
get a stop and prevent them from scoring, not knowing
how this whole thing is going to play out once
you get into live game scenarios and what teams may
you know, have up their sleeves.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Again, it's always going to be skewed in the direction
of trying to generate more points. So whatever it is
that they you know that the people who make these
decisions used to come up with these new rules. The
rules are clearly to create an advantage on scoring points.
(22:26):
You gave You gave the stats a show not too
long ago, Q on how low percentage wise the amount
of conversions of touchdowns and points were based off of
the starting yardage of the offense in the league this
past year, there's there If the idea is to generate
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more offense and more points, and they can improve that
based off of the evidence saying if they're closer, they
have a better opportunit unity of of you know, having
sustained drives or getting touchdowns and getting points, then that's
why the rule was put in play. I feel like
it still comes down to this, right if you're booting
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it out of the end zone, which that's become pretty
commonplace and pretty much you know in the league, then
starting them out at the thirties, starting them out further afield.
It still comes down to what are the offenses going
to do? Like to me, that's what it comes down to,
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and are you are you going to are you going
to be able to generate the excitement that these rules
that are being put in play are ultimately trying to facilitate,
which if I'm a defender and I wish, like I
just wish I I looked at things the same way
(23:58):
now that you know I did back like, or I
looked at things back then the way I do now,
I would post rules like take these rules and post
them where you can see them. Those are goals like
there's a rule change, there's a rule change, the hip drop,
the kickoff, the this, the that, the da da da,
(24:20):
And I post them and I go work out to
that and I go run to that and not study
my film to that and not keep studying. I want
to ruin games. If I'm a defender, I'm not getting
paid to be out here to let guys cook. I'm
not out here for Taylor Swift to be having a
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good time watching Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes have a
good time out there, or Josh Allen and whoever else
he may throw it to, or any other quarterback and
any other receiver out there. That and Justin Jefferson getting
his money and dak In ceedee lamb if CD.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Gets his mind.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I'm not just going to sit back and be a
spectator that gets paid to be on the field and
watch this offense operate and do things that drive ratings
up and make people happy and get people screaming.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
I want to jack that s up.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
And I just feel like, I wonder how are defenders
looking at it? Because we always look like, look at
it from the point that we don't matter, and and honestly,
how are offensive players looking at it?
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Does this let me ask you this matter? Does that?
Hell yeah, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Does that.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Create more pressure for offensive coordinators and offenses? Or is
it just you know, where we matter? They're going to
continue to put the rules in favor for us to
be able to do well, and this, that and the other,
and we're good, we're pampered, da da da, Like, how
is how are offensive people looking at it?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
We feel privileged, you know, we're gonna We're gonna just
not worry about an exercise our privilege as an offensive
player in the NFL, just keep getting rules changed to
our man. Honestly, I don't know that, like there's there's
a feeling yet because we don't know the impact it'll have.
You know, I imagine they implement this rule, the formation
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looks different, looks kind of goofy, and there's no change,
right Like, there's not any more kickoffs. There's not any
additional big plays or touchdowns from it. You know, I
might take a three year span, look back at the
data and go, okay, like this is how it impacted it,
yes or no.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
So I I look at it and just.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Just go it's too soon to tell, but there's no doubt.
And then you mentioned this earlier when I spoke about
how scoring was down last year.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Scoring is kind of big down.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I think there's a number of reasons what's led to it,
and in most cases it's been between.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You know, to me, lack of development.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I think that's been a part of it that no
one wants to talk about, as far as offensive play,
and the lack of an off season, maybe changing the
off season, not having that break a little more continuity
with it, with guys being there more in the summer
and heading into training camp. I mean, maybe that'll help.
I don't know, but to me, it's it's been a
lack of development on all sides of the football, in
(27:19):
particular on offense though, and then more so than that,
just some of the some of the rule changes. I
think I've kind of played a factor in helping out,
but you just got better athletes in the defensive side
of the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I'm willing to admit that. And it's hard to overcome,
isn't Last year?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Also the injury factor with quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
And yeah, I mean you say that, but like Browning
came in and did a great job. They were biting
potentially for a playoff spot. I mean he had Garter Minshew,
same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I was a big fan of Browning last year and
what he did.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, you're saying that because you saw a shot of
his wife.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Sets first of all, again with just the reckless You
know you're going to hear from my legal team, but
this keeps up. Yeah, it's been going on on all week,
and it's it's went on last week. You know, I
come back and I got to get a you know,
a shive in the ribcage from you every single day.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Tell me this much. Am I wrong with what I
just said?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
No, but that's not the point here, okay, And it's
sorry for my eyes working. Okay. I think I think
I was in a large group of people who noticed
the same thing. But I also on the kickoff. I
didn't realize this, and maybe we had gone over this
at the time, but Florio had pointed this out yesterday
that the initial was it's.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Not about him selling that book, that he's trying to sell.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Something something I can't like. It's every day, every day, Hey,
guess what, it's a you know, discount day for this
new book of mine.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
It's like, hey, Father's Day is coming up, by my book,
buy my book?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
All right?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Not?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
No, I'm good here, I got I got plans. But
they were initially going to move this kickoff, like if
it was a touch back to the thirty five, and
then they changed it a week before the league meetings
to the thirty Do you think the five yards would
have been that big of a difference.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
No, I've said, move it back to the twenty.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
If your whole entire goal is to is to get
more kickoff returns, move the ball back so far you
can't kick it out of the end zone, or what's
going to take another generation of kickers getting strong enough
to be able to do it.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It's not that complicated.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, well listen it is, uh that's going on here?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well he saw the text message conversation two pros.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
That's what I'm saying. What's going on with that?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Ye?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Can we talk about it?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
What you want you guys, get out free range to
talk about it? Yeah, get out.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
What you want to talk about?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I know this.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's it's it's Jones's head's always in the gutter.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
So Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, coming on next here from the.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Guys okay over there m hm, and then.
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Speaker 2 (31:13):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Speaker 1 (31:23):
But that we turn it over to our executive producer,
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Speaker 9 (31:27):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas. Good morning, Brady, Good
morning LeVar, guys.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
We talked about this.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Thank you LeVar guys that we talked about this yesterday.
Baby Hey Brady, former offensive lineman for the New England Patriots,
was on the Games with Names podcasts with Julian Edelman,
detailing an email exchange between him and Bill Belichick that
is his most treasured possession from his from his career.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I have a little bit of sound for you. It's
a few minutes, but it's well worth it. Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (31:57):
In quotes, the south starts not like hey, Matt, or
just wanted to touch base with you, sir. It's a
chance for us all to bond and start putting wheels
in motion for the following season. Left tackle Matt Light
said in a recent interview, the foundation is put in
place at this time of year. What you do in March, April,
May and June, what you do in that mini camp,
in the passing camp, it has a direct effect on
the beginning of your season, and you have to come
(32:17):
out of the gate swinging pretty hard. That's what we've
been able to do around here. In the quote my bad,
I mean that's kool aid.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's a good crew. Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 10 (32:25):
I got asked by a reporter in Hawaii about whatever,
and I gave the typical you know, do your job speech. Right, Hey, Matt,
just read this quote from you dot dot dot. What
the question mark? And by the way, so you see
like when I see this, like that's got to be coping.
They're messing with me. That's not real.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
And Bill doesn't send emails.
Speaker 10 (32:47):
We have over fifty guys here working out today, and
the one who isn't here does all the talking about
how important the off season is.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Figures.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
A lot of your teammates were concerned about you and
asked why you weren't here. But don't worry. We let
them all know that you're in Hawaii for a week.
If you want to get something productive done out there,
why don't you have him move this meeting to the
week before all in caps teams start their offseason programs.
Question mark, very respectfully, yours, Bill Belichick, head coach, New
England Patriots.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Okay, so like when.
Speaker 10 (33:15):
You got that, if you got that, you know that's
not from Bill Belichick. This one, I did kind of
think may I was gonna get fired Coach B And
I thought that was awesome. That was a way to
go right. First of all, allow me to apologize for
not responding earlier to your prior email. It has been
my experience limited as it may be that a reflexive
response does not serve anyone well. Thus, I thought it
(33:37):
necessary to permit time to militate a more measured philosophic response,
as you are certainly better aware than anyone. We, as
human beings, are not automatons. Rather, we stand as a
compilation of free will, rational beings. Given this, it becomes
critical to impose a measure of collectivism for the benefit
of the order. I realized that the concept of collectivism
strikes a measure of aberance in our rugged individualistic society.
(33:58):
But it is such a collective good that allows us
all benefit and that does not require a study of
the encannabulum to realize that both coaches and players gained
from a measured collective relationship with the financial bully pulpit
held by the owners. Given this, in despite my commitment
to the off season programs, I felt compelled to move
forward the collective good of the players through attendants of
the PA meetings. In a long run, it is generally
for the benefit of all. My commitment to this end
(34:19):
is in no way a negative reflection on my dedication
and commitment to optimizing my personal performance to the grace
advantage of the team. Your humble, free world left tackle,
Matt Laite. I had no idea that this would be
the response to that gibberish, and I gotta tell you
this is one of my favorite things in life Again.
April eleventh, twenty seven, twelve forty five pm. It still
(34:41):
like a midday email, midday weird concluding remarks. You're gonna
love this, Matt. I need some time to let this
one settle, but I'll start with this. Why don't you
consider dedicating yourself to having fewer mistakes and not leading
the team in once again being the most penalized player
on offense. Your numerous false start penalties and evidence again
(35:02):
at the Pro Bowl, and other transgressions like tawning continue
to make me think that your distractions off the field
affect your concentration on the field. My advice, if you
have an interest in improving your performance, would be to
minimize your distractions and focus on maximizing your physical development
and technique in the off season program that one week
really killed you. I continue to feel that you were
(35:23):
totally out of line commenting on the importance of the
program when you were not in attendance with the rest
of the team. Now this is what it gets great. Finally, Matt,
there is no need to use multi syllable words in
your email that neither you nor I know. I am unimpressed.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
He's a legendi.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
This will conclude my email exchange and I will return
to my efforts in trying to do a better job
in coaching this football team. As for the PA meetings,
don't worry about helping me. As I have said many
times and I remind myself, the best thing we can
do for ourselves and our families is.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Win all in caps.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
Try to keep that in your mind for in your
quest for world peace.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Crely respecting your Bill Belichick head coach.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
And we never once acknowledged it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
What a smart ass.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
These are real real.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
If that doesn't make you love Bill Belichick, I don't
know what will at that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Point so much sarcasm, it's amazing, That is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
You know what's funny about that, though, is you know,
for the most part, all of the coaches that I
played for that came from that tree, had a lot
of that, like, had a lot of sarcasm, had a
lot of smart lok responses to things, even if the
things were logical.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's just it's the way they went about doing it.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I mean when I first met Charlie Weiss, the way
he would it was like, man, he would just sing
you constantly. You know, you'd be like, oh, you know
I was doing this. Coach He's like, oh, yeah, how's
that going to help you win football games? And I
was like, oh, I guess it's not. And they would
just continue to rip you. It was just look, it's
a master's class though focus clearly, that's all they want
(37:04):
you to care about. And and it was very successful
for Bill Belichick in New England for a long time.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Well, and Belichick came from the Parcels tree, and Parcels
is a smart ass, like he was one of those
guys as well too, so that that's that's hilarious man.
And and that guy doesn't have a job, Bill, Bill
Belichick does not have a job this offseason. It's a disgrace.
Guy's gonna be coaching next year. He'll take over.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, but we get about TV now, so maybe that
shoe will will be even better.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, maybe I don't. I'm gonna miss see him on
the sideline though. It's gonna be weird when he's coaching
Dallas next year. And not a lot in New England.
What else we got leave? We got time for one more?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Well, good news for.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
That three year old Rodeo Bowl party bus will not
be euthanized after wreaking have it at the Oregon Rodeo
this past week.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And in case you missed this, do you see that
video by the way, just annihilating people, just civilians getting
it
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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We will discuss all of that for you here. We're
also going to talk about a brand new change in
the NFL and one coach who's a little bit confused
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Speaker 3 (02:03):
There?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Was a giant gust of wind from the west coast
yesterday and now now that gust of wind was the
swing and the miss for the La Lakers on Dan Hurley,
Oh and down they go, Yeah, big time swinging a miss.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You know what, I gotta tell you, I was dead wrong.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And I think part of it is is maybe I
just in my mind have this misconception of what the
Lakers are and how they're viewed.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean, are the Lakers not viewed?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Is that story to a franchise that like, you can't
turn down this job, this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
The history is there the Laker Like it's like they
have so much, so many great moments, great tradition, but
it kind of has that feeling like Miami football, where
we remember Miami football as being man, they were the
U it was, it was different. And then you look
back and you go, that's kind of been a long
(03:00):
long time since they won real big games. I know
they won the Bubble Championship, but before that, we're talking
what fifteen years ago, Like, it's not like this is
recent success they've had. And I just wonder if people
look at that as opposed to just the name on
the front and everything that comes along with it.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
See, to me, when I look at the situation, it
is a storied franchise.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
It is.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
A franchise that has tremendous relevance. Even if that relevance
is more rooted in the past, it's still a tremendous
job and a tremendous franchise historically speaking and reputationally speaking.
I just, for me, I just think that it's it's
almost like Washington in how Washington was in football, where
(03:51):
you had a foundation built by a different owner, and
since there's been new ownership that has taken place, I
just think that there is a cultural, a cultural situation
that has developed in LA And I just don't know
that if you're looking at the last three or four
(04:15):
coaches from Byron Scott to Luke Walton to Vogel to Ham,
they they don't make it out of four years, four
years and tops and you're out. I just I think
that it is a more volatile job because of how
high profile the franchise is and if you're not if
(04:39):
you're not going to this team with the idea and
the understanding that I have two to four years to
get this done, and the likelihood is outside of the
last guys I've been here. It's probably more on the
side that I'm out after four than it is that
(05:00):
I'm in. I just think that that's a hard if
you have a situation like Hurley. I just think that
that's a hard decision to make to walk away from
stability and success at that level to go to the
next level and have so much uncertainty as to what
your future looks like. Other than there's the strong possibility
(05:24):
that I'm going to be out of here in two
to four years, Well, that's hard.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Think about this.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Though He's turned down two legendary programs or teams Kentucky
earlier this offseason, stayed with Yukon, which you might say, well,
that makes maybe more sense because he's at the college level,
same level. Yukon's got a storied history and tradition as well,
and he's built that program up where he'd maybe be
(05:52):
having to do something similar to.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That to Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
And I also think that Dan Hurley's probably overly concerned
with this.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
He made that move.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
We live in a world in college basketball now where
it would have decimated Yukon. Everything he did at Yukon.
It could have decimated them, because he woulduld have gotten
a lot of those players to transfer immediately to Kentucky
and bring all those players with them, which you know,
maybe he had some feelings about doing that, considering the
opportunity of Yukon gave him the success they've had, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Maybe not who knows, but now the Lakers as well.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And so I look at this and just go, all right,
maybe I'm messed up because I keep looking.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
At this thinking like, is this not the Lakers?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Is this not like one of those storied franchises you have,
you know, shows about movies about I mean, is this
not the one that if you could bring it back
to being at the top of the NBA, you would
be king in that realm? Which leads me to think
if because I think those things are right, I think
it's more of a matter of, you know, whatever was
(06:54):
offered to him or whatever the situation that's presented isn't
to his liking.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
And I don't know if that was.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
The contract, if they, you know, couldn't pay him significantly
more than he was getting from Yukon in order to
persuade him not to be there. I've heard, you know,
people talk about the Stydingham tax and maybe that plays
a factor, even though let's be real, it's not like
Connecticut doesn't have high taxes too. You know, I've heard
people throughout that theory. I wonder though, how much Lebron
(07:23):
his impact plays a role in Yeah, you might interview
with Rob Polenka, but at the end of the day,
it's still Lebron behind the scenes, pulling the strings.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
I don't think he takes the interview if he wasn't
comfortable with the Lebron James scenario.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
See, I think you take it to figure out what
that scenario is.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
I think you find out before you. I think you
have a good idea before you fly out. And yeah, maybe,
but but.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You've got to hear them to and ask those questions,
those pointy questions, Like you could talk to Rich Paul,
you could talk to even Lebron, But when you go
out there, you're gonna be talking to all the people
of the organization, you know, whether it's Jenny Buss or
lat Polinka or any When you're looking him dead in
the face and you're saying, all right, what is the
situation here? Because whatever, until you've gathered, you want to
(08:12):
confirm and you want to see what they say, how
they react, what their answer is.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I just I think the.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
General the general pointer question is like, I just wonder
how big of a factor that is in this whole
decision making process to turn this job down.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I would just venture to say I would just venture
to say he probably did some type of information gathering
before it got to the point of saying that I'm
going to entertain.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It just came.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
It just seemed like it came so quickly, the idea
of him getting this job. Everybody talking about Reddick getting
the job, Reddi Reddick, Reddick, Readick, Boom, Hurley.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Hurley wasn't even on the odds list. Remember we read
it off that it wasn't anyone's radar.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
So some thing had to be happening behind the scenes
that people weren't totally aware of what was taking place.
And to the to the tune of him actually going
to see what it is that he was going to
get himself into to your point, Q, But I just
think in the end, when you measure it out and
he weighed out, it was going to come down to
(09:21):
was he comfortable leaving what he's created for this major
opportunity at the NBA level or at the University of Kentucky,
or do you stay put where it is that you
created your systems.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
You have your your you know, you have your way.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Of doing things and it's been successful, and you got
to ask yourself to question.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
I don't I don't know his family situation. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
There's there's probably a lot more factors that are involved
than just the idea of going to the Lakers versus
staying at Yukon. In terms of coaching, there's probably more,
but just face value. Don't you feel like it's just
a more stable opportunity for him to have longevity versus
(10:05):
taking a chance and a risk even though it's high high.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
Reward or it's super high reward, but it's super high
risk as well.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Sure, I think that that might have been I don't
think that it was anything else other other than that
in the end, like high risk, high reward, Like, but
I did that already with Yukon, and I've built this,
so I would just stay here.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Which is actually why I think it makes more of
the case of leaving. Like look at Nick Saban for example,
when's the national championship at LSU entertains the ability to
go to the Miami Dolphins that doesn't work out comes back,
builds up bigger, better, and the greatest coach of all
time at college football. So to that point, actually, I
would actually make the case that it makes more of
a sense to be able to then leave and go
(10:50):
explore that and hey, if you crash and burn, all right, whatever,
I know I can build this back up at the
college level.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I've already done it.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I've already had those dominant team back to back years
we've ever seen in the end the tournament. I look
at it this way, and maybe I don't know if
we have music for like a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Do we have that?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Does anyone have Robert Stack in a trench coat somewhere
walking in a dark alley with some steam billowing out.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Like, okay, give us, give us the conspiracy the.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, LaVar, you bring up a good point in the
sense of if he's doing all this data analysis and
everything beforehand, it makes me think this.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It makes me think that maybe he was the.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Candidate all along for the Lakers organization, for a guy
like Rob Polenka. He was there, Golden Goose, He was
the guy that they ultimately really want it, but it
wasn't necessarily the guy that Lebron James really wanted. And
it's why you kept hearing JJ Reddick, and it's why
you kept hearing all these reports that it's basically a
(11:56):
done deal until after the NBA Finals, when Redick's done
serving out his media commitment. Maybe there's some coaches too
who was gonna kind of evaluate, look at he he
wants to bring on his staff. Till after that was
all the reporting, and then Dan Hurley's name.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Pops up, So it was Lebron counterpunching, not the Lakers counterpunching.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Well, it would have been the Lakers LA counter punching.
Len bring in Dan Hurley as the last second, trying
to make a last ditch effort and saying maybe they
had said to Lebron, hey, if we can.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Get this guy, let's.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Go bring this guy in, and Lebron's like, all right,
do whatever you want to do. But at the end
of the day, he comes out there, he does the interview.
I think he looks at the situation says no, no,
this has Lebron's fingers all over. I can't have the
autonomy that I want to be the coach here and
do the things I'd like to do.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So I'm out. I'm going back to Yukon. Maybe that
was more of the conspiracy theories.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
You've got two different head coaches that are being put
it out there in the media because you've got two
different people behind the scenes trying to make it happen.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I have a conspiracy theory to add to keep the
stack music.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Going, to keep going.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Because Lebron James wants JJ Reddick, and JJ Reddick wants
Lebron James, and Bronni James wants both of them. When
Danny Hurley came out to beautiful Los Angeles, California, there
was a suspicious man that followed Danny Hurley around during
(13:29):
the course of his visit in time as he went
to the Strand and went to Manhattan Beach to see
the area, and went to visit Rob Low look alike.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
What's his name, Rob Polenka, and.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
That man finally revealed himself to Danny Hurley as a
man with special skills, skills that would let's just say,
be used if he decided to in fact, except this
La Lakers job. And now that he has not accepted
(14:04):
the job, his job is done and JJ Reddick will
be the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Wow, I'm listening. I mean, since we're going here, i'd.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Also that might just be like a theory, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I'd also like to share my conspiracy theory. I mean,
so do one. I'll do one here. I don't think
that the interview actually happened. What I think?
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Wow, now that is conspiracy theory. Yeah, he didn't walk.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
On the moon now like a UFO or something.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I believe that Dan Hurley intended to meet with the Lakers.
He intended to go to the Crypto dot com to
meet with the Lakers, but he couldn't get into the crib.
He couldn't get in there because there were too many
sleeping bags and tents out in front, and he had
(14:59):
no way to get to the front door. And he said,
you know what, I'm going back to Connecticut. This is
too much for me. Thus, JJ Reddick is still in
the running to be the head coach of the LA Lakers.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
And to put a cherry on top, he made sure
that he checked the weather channel to see what the
weather would be flying back and hanging out in Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, that channel looks a little overrated, it does it?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah not to some people.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
That work. I mean if you were going to see
and I would say suspicious.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Bba bb.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Drizzy, Well are they not? Rabbi guess it from all
that corn bread? Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
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minutes from now. There's a new kickoff rule in the NFL.
A lot of people are very confused by it. Jirod Mayo,
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even though we were critical of what the outlook looks
like for them this upcoming season, at least he made
us feel or made me feel like I'm not the
dumbest person on planet Earth, which is an amazing feat
and an amazing accomplishment because he spoke yesterday about the
new kickoff rule and just shared his honest opinion on
what they're expecting and what the look is going to
(18:48):
be like this upcoming season around the NFL.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
I don't think anyone actually knows how this thing is
going to play out. Look, the rules are still kind
of fluid even as of today. So we watch it
as a staff just because it's one of those plays
where you're trying to get and we talk about collaboration
all the time, but you're trying to get opinions of
the offensive coaches, the defensive coaches, and the special teams coaches,
and also you know, just kind of calling around the
league to see how they think about it. But once again,
(19:13):
I don't think anyone really knows how it's going to
play out. It might just be beneficial you take the
ball out to thirty.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
I don't know, fair point, although I do feel like
there's somebody in the NFL or kind of floating around
the NFL who probably would have this thing figured out
by week one. Bill Belichick. He would be the guy
to me that would have this whole thing figured out.
But nonetheless he is not there. He'll be doing media stuff.
And so now we just wait to see what the
(19:39):
new NFL kickoff is going to look like moving forward.
Be interesting at least, nice little change here, change of
what well, change of what we've had to where they've
been trying to phase this whole thing out and cancel
it all. At least they're trying to put you know,
paddle boards on the chest to the kickoff and try
and bring it back, you know, which is nice to see.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, that's all you got for us?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, I mean what else like that?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
I mean, well, if you listen to the quote or
you read the entire quote for Drod Mayo, he talked
about how most teams will probably just end up electing
to try to kick the ball out of the end zone,
which would then put the ball on the thirty yard line,
and he said, yeah, that's probably what my most teams
are going to do in fear of giving up a
big play, in fear of giving up a big returner
(20:25):
or big you know, much more field position. Because I
think there's a thought that the way this is constructed,
it's not just constructed to get more kickoff returns and
make it safer, it's constructed also to make it potentially
a big play. And you've got teams like the Kansas
City Chiefs, for example, who.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Signed was it Luis Reese Zemet or something like that.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The rugby player who's super Yeah, he's a superstar, good
looking dude.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
By the way, he's gonna come on that. He's literally
gonna get on that roster.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
And people could be like, oh, everyone thought it was
gonna be like Kelsey and Mahomes getting the shine.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I'm just telling you Kill's better watch out man Swift
might be start looking at him.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
He takes a couple of kickoff returns back, Like, wait
a second, but teams are stockpiling guys they feel like
could potentially create big plays or create an impact through
kickoff returns. I mean, it doesn't happen that often, but
it can be game changing in the sense of, you know,
(21:25):
helping you out when you need to get the ball
closer out to the fifty to go score the final
few minutes of a game, or figure out a way
of just creating an explosive big play. So there's a
thought that at least from an offensive standpoint, this kickoff
rule is way more beneficial to the offense and the defense.
And if that's the case, teams may just sit tell
(21:46):
the kicker go ahead and boot it out of the
end zone.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
We'll give them the ball at the thirty.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
We feel confident in our ability to be able to
get a stop and prevent them from scoring, not knowing
how this whole thing is going to play out once
you get into live game scenarios and what teams may
you know, have up their sleeves.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Again, it's always going to be skewed in the direction
of trying to generate more points. So whatever it is
that they you know that the people who make these
decisions used to come up with these new rules. The
rules are clearly to create an advantage on scoring points.
(22:26):
You gave You gave the stats a show not too
long ago, Q on how low percentage wise the amount
of conversions of touchdowns and points were based off of
the starting yardage of the offense in the league this
past year, there's there If the idea is to generate
(22:50):
more offense and more points, and they can improve that
based off of the evidence saying if they're closer, they
have a better opportunit unity of of you know, having
sustained drives or getting touchdowns and getting points, then that's
why the rule was put in play. I feel like
it still comes down to this, right if you're booting
(23:12):
it out of the end zone, which that's become pretty
commonplace and pretty much you know in the league, then
starting them out at the thirties, starting them out further afield.
It still comes down to what are the offenses going
to do? Like to me, that's what it comes down to,
(23:37):
and are you are you going to are you going
to be able to generate the excitement that these rules
that are being put in play are ultimately trying to facilitate,
which if I'm a defender and I wish, like I
just wish I I looked at things the same way
(23:58):
now that you know I did back like, or I
looked at things back then the way I do now,
I would post rules like take these rules and post
them where you can see them. Those are goals like
there's a rule change, there's a rule change, the hip drop,
the kickoff, the this, the that, the da da da,
(24:20):
And I post them and I go work out to
that and I go run to that and not study
my film to that and not keep studying. I want
to ruin games. If I'm a defender, I'm not getting
paid to be out here to let guys cook. I'm
not out here for Taylor Swift to be having a
(24:42):
good time watching Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes have a
good time out there, or Josh Allen and whoever else
he may throw it to, or any other quarterback and
any other receiver out there. That and Justin Jefferson getting
his money and dak In ceedee lamb if CD.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Gets his mind.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I'm not just going to sit back and be a
spectator that gets paid to be on the field and
watch this offense operate and do things that drive ratings
up and make people happy and get people screaming.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
I want to jack that s up.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
And I just feel like, I wonder how are defenders
looking at it? Because we always look like, look at
it from the point that we don't matter, and and honestly,
how are offensive players looking at it?
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Does this let me ask you this matter? Does that?
Hell yeah, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Does that.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Create more pressure for offensive coordinators and offenses? Or is
it just you know, where we matter? They're going to
continue to put the rules in favor for us to
be able to do well, and this, that and the other,
and we're good, we're pampered, da da da, Like, how
is how are offensive people looking at it?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
We feel privileged, you know, we're gonna We're gonna just
not worry about an exercise our privilege as an offensive
player in the NFL, just keep getting rules changed to
our man. Honestly, I don't know that, like there's there's
a feeling yet because we don't know the impact it'll have.
You know, I imagine they implement this rule, the formation
(26:22):
looks different, looks kind of goofy, and there's no change,
right Like, there's not any more kickoffs. There's not any
additional big plays or touchdowns from it. You know, I
might take a three year span, look back at the
data and go, okay, like this is how it impacted it,
yes or no.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
So I I look at it and just.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Just go it's too soon to tell, but there's no doubt.
And then you mentioned this earlier when I spoke about
how scoring was down last year.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Scoring is kind of big down.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
I think there's a number of reasons what's led to it,
and in most cases it's been between.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
You know, to me, lack of development.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I think that's been a part of it that no
one wants to talk about, as far as offensive play,
and the lack of an off season, maybe changing the
off season, not having that break a little more continuity
with it, with guys being there more in the summer
and heading into training camp. I mean, maybe that'll help.
I don't know, but to me, it's it's been a
lack of development on all sides of the football, in
(27:19):
particular on offense though, and then more so than that,
just some of the some of the rule changes. I
think I've kind of played a factor in helping out,
but you just got better athletes in the defensive side
of the ball.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I'm willing to admit that. And it's hard to overcome,
isn't Last year?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Also the injury factor with quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
And yeah, I mean you say that, but like Browning
came in and did a great job. They were biting
potentially for a playoff spot. I mean he had Garter Minshew,
same thing.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I was a big fan of Browning last year and
what he did.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, you're saying that because you saw a shot of
his wife.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Sets first of all, again with just the reckless You
know you're going to hear from my legal team, but
this keeps up. Yeah, it's been going on on all week,
and it's it's went on last week. You know, I
come back and I got to get a you know,
a shive in the ribcage from you every single day.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Tell me this much. Am I wrong with what I
just said?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
No, but that's not the point here, okay, And it's
sorry for my eyes working. Okay. I think I think
I was in a large group of people who noticed
the same thing. But I also on the kickoff. I
didn't realize this, and maybe we had gone over this
at the time, but Florio had pointed this out yesterday
that the initial was it's.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Not about him selling that book, that he's trying to sell.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Something something I can't like. It's every day, every day, Hey,
guess what, it's a you know, discount day for this
new book of mine.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
It's like, hey, Father's Day is coming up, by my book,
buy my book?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
All right?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Not?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
No, I'm good here, I got I got plans. But
they were initially going to move this kickoff, like if
it was a touch back to the thirty five, and
then they changed it a week before the league meetings
to the thirty Do you think the five yards would
have been that big of a difference.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
No, I've said, move it back to the twenty.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
If your whole entire goal is to is to get
more kickoff returns, move the ball back so far you
can't kick it out of the end zone, or what's
going to take another generation of kickers getting strong enough
to be able to do it.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It's not that complicated.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, well listen it is, uh that's going on here?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well he saw the text message conversation two pros.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
That's what I'm saying. What's going on with that?
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Ye?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Can we talk about it?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
What you want you guys, get out free range to
talk about it? Yeah, get out.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
What you want to talk about?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I know this.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's it's it's Jones's head's always in the gutter.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
So Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, coming on next here from the.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Guys okay over there m hm, and then.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Probably fromnentirerac dot Com studios, which is appropriate. You are
going to hear one of the great exchanges between coach
and player in NFL history, and that's yours.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Next year at FSR, be sure to catch live editions
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 2 (31:13):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
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Speaker 1 (31:23):
But that we turn it over to our executive producer,
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Speaker 9 (31:27):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas. Good morning, Brady, Good
morning LeVar, guys.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
We talked about this.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Thank you LeVar guys that we talked about this yesterday.
Baby Hey Brady, former offensive lineman for the New England Patriots,
was on the Games with Names podcasts with Julian Edelman,
detailing an email exchange between him and Bill Belichick that
is his most treasured possession from his from his career.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
I have a little bit of sound for you. It's
a few minutes, but it's well worth it. Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (31:57):
In quotes, the south starts not like hey, Matt, or
just wanted to touch base with you, sir. It's a
chance for us all to bond and start putting wheels
in motion for the following season. Left tackle Matt Light
said in a recent interview, the foundation is put in
place at this time of year. What you do in March, April,
May and June, what you do in that mini camp,
in the passing camp, it has a direct effect on
the beginning of your season, and you have to come
(32:17):
out of the gate swinging pretty hard. That's what we've
been able to do around here. In the quote my bad,
I mean that's kool aid.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's a good crew. Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 10 (32:25):
I got asked by a reporter in Hawaii about whatever,
and I gave the typical you know, do your job speech. Right, Hey, Matt,
just read this quote from you dot dot dot. What
the question mark? And by the way, so you see
like when I see this, like that's got to be coping.
They're messing with me. That's not real.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
And Bill doesn't send emails.
Speaker 10 (32:47):
We have over fifty guys here working out today, and
the one who isn't here does all the talking about
how important the off season is.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Figures.
Speaker 10 (32:54):
A lot of your teammates were concerned about you and
asked why you weren't here. But don't worry. We let
them all know that you're in Hawaii for a week.
If you want to get something productive done out there,
why don't you have him move this meeting to the
week before all in caps teams start their offseason programs.
Question mark, very respectfully, yours, Bill Belichick, head coach, New
England Patriots.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Okay, so like when.
Speaker 10 (33:15):
You got that, if you got that, you know that's
not from Bill Belichick. This one, I did kind of
think may I was gonna get fired Coach B And
I thought that was awesome. That was a way to
go right. First of all, allow me to apologize for
not responding earlier to your prior email. It has been
my experience limited as it may be that a reflexive
response does not serve anyone well. Thus, I thought it
(33:37):
necessary to permit time to militate a more measured philosophic response,
as you are certainly better aware than anyone. We, as
human beings, are not automatons. Rather, we stand as a
compilation of free will, rational beings. Given this, it becomes
critical to impose a measure of collectivism for the benefit
of the order. I realized that the concept of collectivism
strikes a measure of aberance in our rugged individualistic society.
(33:58):
But it is such a collective good that allows us
all benefit and that does not require a study of
the encannabulum to realize that both coaches and players gained
from a measured collective relationship with the financial bully pulpit
held by the owners. Given this, in despite my commitment
to the off season programs, I felt compelled to move
forward the collective good of the players through attendants of
the PA meetings. In a long run, it is generally
for the benefit of all. My commitment to this end
(34:19):
is in no way a negative reflection on my dedication
and commitment to optimizing my personal performance to the grace
advantage of the team. Your humble, free world left tackle,
Matt Laite. I had no idea that this would be
the response to that gibberish, and I gotta tell you
this is one of my favorite things in life Again.
April eleventh, twenty seven, twelve forty five pm. It still
(34:41):
like a midday email, midday weird concluding remarks. You're gonna
love this, Matt. I need some time to let this
one settle, but I'll start with this. Why don't you
consider dedicating yourself to having fewer mistakes and not leading
the team in once again being the most penalized player
on offense. Your numerous false start penalties and evidence again
(35:02):
at the Pro Bowl, and other transgressions like tawning continue
to make me think that your distractions off the field
affect your concentration on the field. My advice, if you
have an interest in improving your performance, would be to
minimize your distractions and focus on maximizing your physical development
and technique in the off season program that one week
really killed you. I continue to feel that you were
(35:23):
totally out of line commenting on the importance of the
program when you were not in attendance with the rest
of the team. Now this is what it gets great. Finally, Matt,
there is no need to use multi syllable words in
your email that neither you nor I know. I am unimpressed.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
He's a legendi.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
This will conclude my email exchange and I will return
to my efforts in trying to do a better job
in coaching this football team. As for the PA meetings,
don't worry about helping me. As I have said many
times and I remind myself, the best thing we can
do for ourselves and our families is.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Win all in caps.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
Try to keep that in your mind for in your
quest for world peace.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
Crely respecting your Bill Belichick head coach.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
And we never once acknowledged it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
What a smart ass.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
These are real real.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
If that doesn't make you love Bill Belichick, I don't
know what will at that.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Point so much sarcasm, it's amazing, That is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
You know what's funny about that, though, is you know,
for the most part, all of the coaches that I
played for that came from that tree, had a lot
of that, like, had a lot of sarcasm, had a
lot of smart lok responses to things, even if the
things were logical.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's just it's the way they went about doing it.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I mean when I first met Charlie Weiss, the way
he would it was like, man, he would just sing
you constantly. You know, you'd be like, oh, you know
I was doing this. Coach He's like, oh, yeah, how's
that going to help you win football games? And I
was like, oh, I guess it's not. And they would
just continue to rip you. It was just look, it's
a master's class though focus clearly, that's all they want
(37:04):
you to care about. And and it was very successful
for Bill Belichick in New England for a long time.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Well, and Belichick came from the Parcels tree, and Parcels
is a smart ass, like he was one of those
guys as well too, so that that's that's hilarious man.
And and that guy doesn't have a job, Bill, Bill
Belichick does not have a job this offseason. It's a disgrace.
Guy's gonna be coaching next year. He'll take over.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, but we get about TV now, so maybe that
shoe will will be even better.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, maybe I don't. I'm gonna miss see him on
the sideline though. It's gonna be weird when he's coaching
Dallas next year. And not a lot in New England.
What else we got leave? We got time for one more?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Well, good news for.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
That three year old Rodeo Bowl party bus will not
be euthanized after wreaking have it at the Oregon Rodeo
this past week.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And in case you missed this, do you see that
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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