August 21, 2024 • 36 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian Flores responds to criticism from Tua Tagovailoa. Aaron Rodgers airs veteran grievances with training camp. Plus, J-Lo, wieners and more on ”ICYMI.”
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Well, well, missing is a perfect way of putting it,
you know, very nice way of putting it.
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That would actually makes sense considering the text that centerlier
that was not responded to.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, it's you know, well, well listen, we've got we've
got some time and in case you missed it, maybe
he will have missed it, missed it all by that.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Point in time.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So so there's that. But here on this show, we
are going to have a conversation. We were talking yesterday
about to a tongue of by Loa's comments about Brian Flores,
and it's you know, I know that we were discussing
it from the standpoint of to what being critical of
Brian Flores, and now he tried to groom him so
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to speak throughout the early portion of his career.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
And probably not the great best phrase for it, but.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yes, yeah, I guess that, you know, that's true.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
But Kevin O'Connell spoke afterwards and was asked about it
and just had some complimentary things to say about it.
We were we were wondering when Brian Flores was going
to go ahead and speak on the situation, and of
course he spoke yesterday, and so Brian Flores talking yesterday, responding,
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gave a full answer as to his thoughts on the
criticism from Tua, you know, specific.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
To you know, the comments that were made by Tua.
I just want to say, look, I'm genuinely happy for
the success that Too has had and I really wish
him nothing but the best. And you know, I think,
you know, player relationships are very important to me. They
I think that's kind of the foundation of coaching. And
I got into coaching because, you know, I was impacted
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as a as a as a young guy by my.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
School coaching, my college coaching, my.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Going away to Pop Warner. I got into coaching because
you know, I want to make that same kind of impact,
positive impact or into young people, help him become you know,
as Kao says all the time, to best versions of themselves,
and you know that's really my goal, always a.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Coaching So that was Brian Flores also talking.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
You spoke about the Tua tongue of Iloa commons specifically
that was not addressed there in that specific cut, but
nonetheless he took the high road said he wishes him
nothing but the best. You know, I wish he could
have gone back and done things a little bit differently
and is hoping to grow as a coach and as
a person and a player developer moving forward, which sounds
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like exactly the right way he should have handled it.
But it still goes back to is this something you
look at and go this is going to stay with
him throughout the course of his career, especially if Tua
continues to ascend as a player in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I don't think it will. I think people will forget
about it.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
I mean we've kind of forgotten about the fact that
there is the entire allegation about tanking, you know, where
he had a lawsuit against the NFL.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
I mean, how many people recall that.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I mean, now you kind of watch the Minnesota Vikings
and their defense, and you give him a lot of
credit for the job that he's done. I mean, he's
one of the best defensive minds in the NFL. So
I don't think people will hang on to this for
a long time. I think how he addressed it, it was
the perfect way of addressing it. I do think it
is interesting, though, like looking back on that and that
(05:35):
moment and whether or not those allegations were true or
had any validity to them, only because I keep thinking
about how he handled the to a situation, and I
keep wondering, you know, obviously, if he wanted to fight,
to be competitive, and he thought Ryan Fitzpatrick was the
better quarterback, why not just play Ryan Fitzpatrick. You know,
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maybe his hands were tied, maybe he had to start
to for however, many you know of those games because
of Chris Greer, who you know, arguably you'd say those two,
you know, had a falling out because Greer, you know,
remained while Brian Flores got fired and they moved on.
And it sounded like Greer wanted Tua. It sounded like
maybe Flores didn't. Whatever the case may be, my general
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points just you know, you look back to those allegations
against Stephen Ross and the Dolphins, and you get to wonder,
like how he was playing things out as a head coach.
You know, either he was a part of the tanking,
which I don't think he was, based on the success
they had, and he wanted them to win. But then
at that point, why not just start Ryan Fitzpatrick if
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you felt like you would give him your best shot,
because clearly the way he handled things with Tua, he
always didn't think Tua gave him the best shot to win.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
But either way, I don't know that we'll be thinking
about this in the future.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
As you know, Brian Flores probably gets a head coaching
job at some point again, and as to a tongue
of a layer continues to build, I think the focus
will be on kind of the here and now, at
least in my opinion, I think we all have a
hard time remembering things two days.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Ago, let alone two years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think the people who will remember are the people
that are hiring those head coaches.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's that's how I see it.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I don't think that owners will forget that Floras brought
a lawsuit against a franchise. I don't think that Brian Flore.
But while I'll say this, though, I did not believe
that you know, Flores would would possibly even get a
job in the National Football League again after bringing a
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lawsuit to a team. So there's that. I mean he did.
I'll kick my expectations of what could have posibly back
in the NFL John Groom's back, So I just.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I do.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I do, however, think that being a coordinator or on
a staff is tremendous different from being the head coach.
I think it's a much more removed position. It's a
much more fleeing position than any other position in the
National Football League.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't think he'll be.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
A head coach again, and I know he addressed it
most certainly because he wants to be a head coach
again and he wants to position himself to be a
head coach again. But I just think that the fallout
from him leaving the way it all kind of unfolded.
I just don't think that that would most most likely
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leave a good feeling with anyone who's hiring a new
head coach. The question would be, why bring in, you know,
possible drama. Why bring in someone who could bring possible
drama to our organization? If things don't work out or
whatever it may be, versus getting someone where you don't have.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
To deal with that.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That was my first observation, just over my first thought
after listening to you know Flores' response, because it was
a response to position himself to basically say, listen, I
would want to be able to be better at what
I'm doing and how I'm doing it based upon what
I came from, I would say. The second observation was
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he never apologized, so there is no he doesn't have
I don't feel like there's a genuine you know, however
this went down with him and Tua, there's not a
remorse in.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
What he did. I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Maybe he could have done it better, but there was
no It didn't come across to me as if he
was saying I'm sorry for how I handled it. And
I think a lot of people are interpreted interpreting it
as he's basically admitting or saying he's sorry as to
how he handled it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I think he's he's more.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I think he's more addressing the the fact that he
has a player that feels that way about him, versus
him feeling as though he handled things the wrong way.
I think the way it comes across is whatever it
is he said to Tua, he meant it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He meant it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
If he said you don't you don't belong here, or
uf and suck or whatever, he meant it. Because I
don't think that he went back on what he said.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think he.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Felt as though he could have said it differently, or
he could have handled it differently, not that he.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Didn't mean what he said.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So to me and listening to it, it ultimately it
led me to believe, like why say anything, Why say
anything at all? But then I came to the conclusion,
if you're going to have any type of hope or
opportunity to possibly have you know, another head coaching crack
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at it, then he probably did feel it necessary to
address it.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
But I don't think it dispelled anything. I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I don't think that it cleared anything up. To be honest,
it was what it was.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Think about it, like he wasn't bad in Miami, Like
they were only a game under five hundred while he
was there, Like they like they showed signs of life.
It wasn't like he was, you know, winning two games
a season and the quarterback situation was a disaster. I
just wonder if there's going to be some organizations who
look at this and go all right, So we don't
know if we can trust him with information or things
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that we ask of him to do as a head coach.
On top of that, we don't know that we can
trust him with the quarterback we draft top five balls.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The best word to use, trust the best word.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
And so I just wonder if this is going to
be used as more evidence of why they wouldn't welcome
him in or bring him in to be a head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I mean, but for his I don't know.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
For as good as he was as a defensive coordinator
of the past couple of seasons for Minnesota, he didn't
get any of interviews last year. He was he was
actually asked about it, and he said he's fine with
kind of where he's at. I wonder if there's an
element of him having to earn back the trust, since
that's the word we're using amongst the NFL. Can you can,
I think you can, I mean think about it. Josh McDaniels.
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After whatever happened in Indianapolis, you know, after going to Denver,
and I mean we all kind of tend to forget,
but there was a Spygate two scenario that played out there.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I mean that all ultimately ended up.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Being his undoing, and he's still got another opportunity with
the Las Vegas Raiders. I mean, heck, he almost got
another opportunity with the Colts had he signed the deal
to be their head coach. So I think we tend
to be a forgiving culture, one that looks for that
comeback at times. And I do think Brian Flores is
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one of the best defensive minds in the NFL. So
you know, for teams out there that are looking for
a young defensive mind who's done a tremendous job, like
he would be that guy. I think he will get
an opportunity sometime the next maybe five years, and it
might take that long, but I think he will.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Start getting interviews again.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I think you will earn back the trust of of
someone you know and and and we'll see, we'll see
if and when that happens. But I don't think it's
gonna be a lifelong defensive coordinator because of whatever the
allegations were in Miami, unless he just has like people
that are actively working against him every single year.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
And that's the hard thing is if your resume and
your highest point or highest position.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Is the head coaching job with the Miami Dolphins, and
that's who every team goes back to say, you know,
calls to say, hey, tell me about this.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
How'd that work out? What was this like? And those
guys are.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Constantly like, yeah, no, you don't want to hire this guy.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
That's gonna be difficult. It's gonna be hard to overcome that.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean, it's in his foul though, right.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
At the top. It's at the top of the rest.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's in his foule, you know, And that's just to me,
I feel like that's super damning. Like spygate has something
to do with the game, you know, these things that
that people can bounce back. I've seen it from the
from the game aspect of it, like okay, you got
you got caught cheating, or something to that effect. Sean
(14:08):
Payton was you know, the hey coach, Wow, you know
bounty gate took place. I get that people can forgive
and forget and have a redemption story for that. But
suing suing a franchise, bring a lawsuit against a franchise,
They're going to open up that foul when he goes
into interview.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Right at the top, and they're gonna.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Look at it and they're gonna be like, so, so.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You sued, and you sue.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
A franchise, you know, like right like right at the
very top.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
He's like, let's get let's get right the way.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I want to get some stuff out of the way.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Let's get let's get Why why mess around about it?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You're here for an interview, Let's get to it.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
What went wrong last time?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Well accused the organization of tampering and tanking. And then also, uh,
by the way he sucked.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I just was protecting my own interests. You know, I
know that it would go this far. I ain't know
that i'd be.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Depicted this way, but hey, it happened. I'm sorry. I
have regrets.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
If I could have handled it better, I would have
handled it better, you know. But this is where we're
at right now. Like, yeah, you could get five years,
ten years removed from it, but I just don't think
he ever gets far enough away from a foul and
a paperwork showing what happened and what transpired.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I say, starting forking them.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Can we play a no, He'll get ahead coaching job
or opportunity again.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I bet it will.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Let's play a little game.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Let's let's play a little game with our own resumes,
all right, So and obviously radio excluded from this, you know,
the playing career excluded. Like resume of which job you
do not want other people to ask about that you
have previously worked in your lifetime?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Which I mean, Jonas, there it is.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
There's the game, sofy chick. I was looking for, m hm,
which one?
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Which one is that job you do not want them
to ask about? Call for a reference, Call for a
referral of any sort on your own.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
I worked at a retirement home in high school as
a waiter, and uh got fired because I called the
the boss something not so nice in front of all
the the residents there, because I didn't.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Want to do at those places.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, but they were so like the people are so sweet,
Like that's what like, elderly people have such a soft
spot in my heart. And they were so nice, and
I just thought that they were.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Like, yeah, oh, Jonas is the no.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
But but like the the the word that I use, uh,
the one, because I mean you know that that shows
that I'm great with kids, I'm willing to entertain, I'm
willing to make it about them and me. This was
just one of the worst words you can use towards somebody,
and I used it, and I was just upset. And
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then I came back in two days later to punch
in and realized my time card wasn't there anymore, and
I was basically escorted out of the building by security.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
So did you pull the old Let's act like that
never happened. If anyone notices that's actually a George guest stands.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Up boot from Yeah, I mean I thought it was
odd that I didn't hear anything back from anybody. I
was like, yeah, listen, there was an issue, but you know,
she was treating the guests poorly. You know, I get
along with all them. All the other employees were there.
They saw what she was doing. It was out of line,
and I was sure nothing So.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
You feel like you were justified, but you're still nonetheless
fell on the wrong side.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
The older I get, the more I go, yeah, it
probably couldn't use some different language, you know, like that
wasn't a good look. So I would say that one
was probably the one that I've you know, it's not
knock everywhere else. You know, I got laid off my
first radio job. That's fine, you know is when it
is that doesn't count.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Care about that?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I mean what the one that you you were like,
I really don't want to have to talk about that one.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, i'd say for me doing construction the summer before
my freshman year of college, I was not cut out
to be a construction worker. If if I had to
be one to make it in life, I probably would
be one of the people that Lee is.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Hanging out with right now. Right now. That's what I.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Said right now, which is I would not want that
to be a reference call for my work ethic, for
my consistency, for you know, my professionalism.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Just I would not want that call to take place.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I mean I was found napping in a porter
John a porter potty.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I was tired.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Oh how about that that smell?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Well, you know, you put put put something over your face,
you sit down, and you find ways to get get sleep.
I didn't get very much done. I need, they had
they had us moving rebar Uh. It was very heavy, yeah,
till two of us. At times sometimes I could do
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it by myself. I didn't want to do that. So
got to a certain point where I just had to
have a conversation with myself, and I saidself, I looked
in the mirror, I said, is this really worth the
hourly rate? I mean, they get you a job so
you could make money and have money, and they pay
you a lot more than what they would generally pay
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because of your your set up, in your situation.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It did not add up for me. It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
It was not enough money for me to be able
to push through and be a better employee. So for that,
I'm ashamed of or would not want to have that
being referenced on my resume.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
What about you, Braid? What are we looking at? Both?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
It'd probably be the first, It'd probably be the bogue
in I just there was there's too many regrettable things.
Granted I was immature, but how I reacted to a
lot of the people who I mean, first off, I
really didn't necessarily always know what I was doing as
a busboy.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Like you're you know, you got to clear the tables.
But there's other things that are involved. I uh, the
water jug for the volleyball courts.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
I mean the amount of people that would come and
complain and yell at us for the water quality, which
I had no responsibility over some of.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Uh, I don't know, the retaliation. Uh, some of that's regrettable.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
No, no, what did you do to the sparkling Joe?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Not that bad? Not that bad.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
It's just come on, come on, Yeah, it wasn't It
wasn't like that.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It sounded like it though. No.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I mean like we had put some like salt and
other stuff to make it even like worse at times,
just because we're like, all right.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
If you complain about.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I think at one point we basically made it like
a LeVar Island, Chris.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
It was like a whole concoction of love things.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I mean the way Albert Breer talks about the Bogia
and that's not you know, it doesn't seem like that
bad of a problem there.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
It seems like, well it's not open anymore. Well, yeah,
you know, we're all good here.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
So yeah listen, Brian Flores, we've all been there, man,
So you know it bounce back.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
We'll get an opportunity at some point.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
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Speaker 6 (23:03):
Said, I can't wait.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Unbelievable. Did he have a day off and I didn't
know what the f man? All right, well there's that.
I have no idea what condition he's going to be.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I mean, very jovial, like everything is all right.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I don't think he knows.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I think he knows.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
But maybe it was the Adele song that Lorena played
that really really got him going, Oh no, I what
do you think happened? Like if you guys had to guess, like,
what would you say? The the the reasoning.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Whil does he have a mode of transportation.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
He had to get a ride home yesterday, right, then
you have to take him right, yes, So if he
had to get a ride.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
Home, it was fine.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
He was tired, he wasn't too ghassy.
Speaker 10 (24:05):
No, he did not disrespect my vehicle.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Oh oh that's nice, Okay, but he did.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
He did say he had to finish business when he
got inside.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
So, but did he have a conversation about his transportation,
because obviously you were his uber driver yesterday, so was
there a conversation surrounding his transportation? Did he say when
he would have a means of transportation while he was
getting transported by you?
Speaker 10 (24:32):
Well, when I dropped him off in front of his house,
I saw that his car was parked out front, and
I smacked it, and I was like, maybe you should
try to turning her on again, so you even get
her started up, you know, because she's a little finicky sometimes.
Just got a push to start, you know. But it
looked like it was still pretty dad, and it was
in rough condition too, let's just put it that way.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, like Lee, Yeah, it
was real rough. And when I left, I was.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Like, oh, alright, any of the well there you go.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, So there's the there's the update on lead to lap.
We will let you know as soon as he arrives
what what that looks like and sounds like?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I mean, do you guys just want to throw him
straight on the air when he walks in, or.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Do we want to give you time to get.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Like, give him time to get a cup of coffee
in his system? Just throw him straight on the air.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I bet he still has his Curry shirt on. Oh
got If he does, that's inexcusable.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
He had Curry two nights ago and he had stains
on it for forty eight hours.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
That's inexcusable. Just get it, like, I don't care what
the bums did in his car.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like he's still got closed right, he has a go
bag in his car at all times, and last I checked,
he got that thing back. So I mean, open up
your your your zip lock bag and pull his shirt out.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
All right?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Well whatever, we'll figure that out with with Lee when
it when it comes up here, it is two pros
and a cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio Lavarre.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
This sound like your voice went from the fun with
it to really irritate.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
It because I think he's gonna walk in with the
same shirt that's got curry on it, like what he
did yesterday.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
And he was too hat to laugh at the same time,
So that's what I wanted to laugh.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I swear to between I.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Was talking to Brady about this. I admire him. I
swear to God like his recklessly, his reckless, abandoned for life.
Like I if I on a random weeknight, my dinner
was a chili dog and two shots of tequila, I
literally would would jump off a bridge the next day
like I would be so I would question everything.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I would be bothered with where I was at with everything.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yes, Lee just walks right through it, like just walks
right They Oh, no, that's that's what it is. Like
listen like it's and he's just living man like there's
something about that. We really think I appreciate it, so
it looks like, uh, it's so. Aaron Rodgers is a
(27:00):
big fan of these difficult training camps that the Jets
are having. He called him the most difficult he's had
in the last seven or eight years. That some of
the veteran players you know enjoy this style being calloused
up to the regular season, but he's not going to
most likely play in their final preseason game against the Giants,
So basically they're just going to get him out there
(27:23):
Week one, primetime on Monday Night at the Niners, a
place where historically he has not had a ton of success,
and he's had you know, fourteen snaps preseason included in
the last year and a half. Is that the right
approach for somebody coming off this injury or is there
cause for concern that there's going to be some rust,
(27:45):
especially early on in that game, if they get after
him a little bit.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
I mean, of course there could be Russ, But like you're,
you know, kind of forgetting he's played football for many, many,
many years. So as much as we want to act
like there's Russ, it's not like he's just sitting around
not doing anything. It's like he's getting off the couch
and jumping onto a football field playing quarterback. So I'm
not as quite concerned about it. I understand it's just
(28:09):
too big of a risk. I mean, imagine him going
out in the field and getting hurt in a preseason game.
Like if this isn't all in year for Robert Sala
and everyone else who's been involved with the decision to
bring in Rogers and put this all together, that.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Would be the end of it. I mean that would
literally be the end of it.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
So's it's too great of a risk in my opinion,
and I think he'll I mean, look, how the game
goes will be one thing, because even when he has
been prepared, has been historically, you know, one of the
at the top of his game, he's still struggled versus
this team that place, So regardless of how his health.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Is, I mean, it's still gonna be a struggle no
matter what.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm curious as to.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
The details of what's making it such a taxing training camp,
Like is it what's what's making it more work into oh,
bowling the ring, that's see, That's what I'm wondering. I'm
curious as to you ring. Is it based upon the
physicality of how the practices.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Are being being ran and how they're being held, And if.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
So, how does that tax a quarterback? This has been
one of the more I'm just curious what makes a
training camp taxing for a quarterback? The only thing I
could see is the conditioning.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Well, because they're not they don't get touched.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Damn, what do they.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Do like quarterbacks call the plays, they handed off, they
throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like, what else do they do? What makes it taxing
for him? That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is it the meeting schedule, because there could be more meetings?
I mean there there. I mean there could be a
lot of things that make it taxing in terms of
time or in terms of if we're talking again, if
it's the physical aspect of it, what are.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
They conditioning more? Is it? Is it? Is it a
high pace practice? Like? What makes it taxing? On a QB?
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I mean it's pretty game or what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well, he said this training camp has been one of
the more taxing training camps.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Correct or did I read it roll?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah? That he said it's one of the most taxing
in the last seventy eight years.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, Well, I'm curious, you're qb Q. I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
What makes it more taxing than the other six seven
years of him being a quarterback?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
What's taxing the versus not?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I don't know that he's talking specifically to his taxing.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
I mean maybe a lot of throws, a lot of
you know, a lot of.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Condition running things like that.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
He's probably talking from the perspective of the entire team. Okay,
that's my best guess. I don't know that any quarterback
would sit there and say, like, hey, training camps as
taxing is I mean outside of specialists, you know, like
you're punters and kickers. You know, you're kind of next
in line for not really doing as much. So that's
how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I mean I could see it as like again, like
meeting schedules could be very very grueling, especially I would
assume four quarterback because you got to know so much.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
How long are meetings, by the way, like an hour?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I mean you go all day, really hours, you go
all day.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
If you're not on the field or rehabbing or getting food,
your meeting, Like that's generally how I mean, that's how
it used to be.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Like in the room for like two hours, three hours.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
At break camp, you break the last meeting you break
at like somewhere close to ten o'clock.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Sometimes anybody sneak a flask in or anything like that,
or is that is that not allowed at.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Some of those places?
Speaker 6 (31:57):
You know?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I don't know how do you pass it?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Like if guys are tired, I mean, do they have
just like a horseshoe of Copenhagen.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
In they.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Sins are pretty popular, right.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I used to do a dip once a camp one
time in the camp one.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Time, Yeah, just one.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
What'd you do, Kodiak, It's.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Copenhagen and that as gets you for ride?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Did you get noxious?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh yeah, like heat flashes got me through the meeting?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Oh man, Well it's not recommended, folks like.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Not recommended, But I did the dip one time. Every
year did that dip.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
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you know, very nice way of putting it.
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That would actually makes sense considering the text that centerlier
that was not responded to.
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Point in time.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So so there's that. But here on this show, we
are going to have a conversation. We were talking yesterday
about to a tongue of by Loa's comments about Brian Flores,
and it's you know, I know that we were discussing
it from the standpoint of to what being critical of
Brian Flores, and now he tried to groom him so
(03:03):
to speak throughout the early portion of his career.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
And probably not the great best phrase for it, but.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yes, yeah, I guess that, you know, that's true.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
But Kevin O'Connell spoke afterwards and was asked about it
and just had some complimentary things to say about it.
We were we were wondering when Brian Flores was going
to go ahead and speak on the situation, and of
course he spoke yesterday, and so Brian Flores talking yesterday, responding,
(03:30):
gave a full answer as to his thoughts on the
criticism from Tua, you know, specific.
Speaker 8 (03:35):
To you know, the comments that were made by Tua.
I just want to say, look, I'm genuinely happy for
the success that Too has had and I really wish
him nothing but the best. And you know, I think,
you know, player relationships are very important to me. They
I think that's kind of the foundation of coaching. And
I got into coaching because, you know, I was impacted
(03:57):
as a as a as a young guy by my.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
School coaching, my college coaching, my.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
Going away to Pop Warner. I got into coaching because
you know, I want to make that same kind of impact,
positive impact or into young people, help him become you know,
as Kao says all the time, to best versions of themselves,
and you know that's really my goal, always a.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Coaching So that was Brian Flores also talking.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
You spoke about the Tua tongue of Iloa commons specifically
that was not addressed there in that specific cut, but
nonetheless he took the high road said he wishes him
nothing but the best. You know, I wish he could
have gone back and done things a little bit differently
and is hoping to grow as a coach and as
a person and a player developer moving forward, which sounds
(04:44):
like exactly the right way he should have handled it.
But it still goes back to is this something you
look at and go this is going to stay with
him throughout the course of his career, especially if Tua
continues to ascend as a player in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I don't think it will. I think people will forget
about it.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
I mean we've kind of forgotten about the fact that
there is the entire allegation about tanking, you know, where
he had a lawsuit against the NFL.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
I mean, how many people recall that.
Speaker 7 (05:13):
I mean, now you kind of watch the Minnesota Vikings
and their defense, and you give him a lot of
credit for the job that he's done. I mean, he's
one of the best defensive minds in the NFL. So
I don't think people will hang on to this for
a long time. I think how he addressed it, it was
the perfect way of addressing it. I do think it
is interesting, though, like looking back on that and that
(05:35):
moment and whether or not those allegations were true or
had any validity to them, only because I keep thinking
about how he handled the to a situation, and I
keep wondering, you know, obviously, if he wanted to fight,
to be competitive, and he thought Ryan Fitzpatrick was the
better quarterback, why not just play Ryan Fitzpatrick. You know,
(05:57):
maybe his hands were tied, maybe he had to start
to for however, many you know of those games because
of Chris Greer, who you know, arguably you'd say those two,
you know, had a falling out because Greer, you know,
remained while Brian Flores got fired and they moved on.
And it sounded like Greer wanted Tua. It sounded like
maybe Flores didn't. Whatever the case may be, my general
(06:20):
points just you know, you look back to those allegations
against Stephen Ross and the Dolphins, and you get to wonder,
like how he was playing things out as a head coach.
You know, either he was a part of the tanking,
which I don't think he was, based on the success
they had, and he wanted them to win. But then
at that point, why not just start Ryan Fitzpatrick if
(06:42):
you felt like you would give him your best shot,
because clearly the way he handled things with Tua, he
always didn't think Tua gave him the best shot to win.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
But either way, I don't know that we'll be thinking
about this in the future.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
As you know, Brian Flores probably gets a head coaching
job at some point again, and as to a tongue
of a layer continues to build, I think the focus
will be on kind of the here and now, at
least in my opinion, I think we all have a
hard time remembering things two days.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Ago, let alone two years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think the people who will remember are the people
that are hiring those head coaches.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's that's how I see it.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I don't think that owners will forget that Floras brought
a lawsuit against a franchise. I don't think that Brian Flore.
But while I'll say this, though, I did not believe
that you know, Flores would would possibly even get a
job in the National Football League again after bringing a
(07:40):
lawsuit to a team. So there's that. I mean he did.
I'll kick my expectations of what could have posibly back
in the NFL John Groom's back, So I just.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I do.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I do, however, think that being a coordinator or on
a staff is tremendous different from being the head coach.
I think it's a much more removed position. It's a
much more fleeing position than any other position in the
National Football League.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't think he'll be.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
A head coach again, and I know he addressed it
most certainly because he wants to be a head coach
again and he wants to position himself to be a
head coach again. But I just think that the fallout
from him leaving the way it all kind of unfolded.
I just don't think that that would most most likely
(08:37):
leave a good feeling with anyone who's hiring a new
head coach. The question would be, why bring in, you know,
possible drama. Why bring in someone who could bring possible
drama to our organization? If things don't work out or
whatever it may be, versus getting someone where you don't have.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
To deal with that.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That was my first observation, just over my first thought
after listening to you know Flores' response, because it was
a response to position himself to basically say, listen, I
would want to be able to be better at what
I'm doing and how I'm doing it based upon what
I came from, I would say. The second observation was
(09:23):
he never apologized, so there is no he doesn't have
I don't feel like there's a genuine you know, however
this went down with him and Tua, there's not a
remorse in.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
What he did. I don't believe.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Maybe he could have done it better, but there was
no It didn't come across to me as if he
was saying I'm sorry for how I handled it. And
I think a lot of people are interpreted interpreting it
as he's basically admitting or saying he's sorry as to
how he handled it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I think he's he's more.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I think he's more addressing the the fact that he
has a player that feels that way about him, versus
him feeling as though he handled things the wrong way.
I think the way it comes across is whatever it
is he said to Tua, he meant it.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He meant it.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
If he said you don't you don't belong here, or
uf and suck or whatever, he meant it. Because I
don't think that he went back on what he said.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I think he.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Felt as though he could have said it differently, or
he could have handled it differently, not that he.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Didn't mean what he said.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So to me and listening to it, it ultimately it
led me to believe, like why say anything, Why say
anything at all? But then I came to the conclusion,
if you're going to have any type of hope or
opportunity to possibly have you know, another head coaching crack
(10:54):
at it, then he probably did feel it necessary to
address it.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
But I don't think it dispelled anything. I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I don't think that it cleared anything up. To be honest,
it was what it was.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Think about it, like he wasn't bad in Miami, Like
they were only a game under five hundred while he
was there, Like they like they showed signs of life.
It wasn't like he was, you know, winning two games
a season and the quarterback situation was a disaster. I
just wonder if there's going to be some organizations who
look at this and go all right, So we don't
know if we can trust him with information or things
(11:27):
that we ask of him to do as a head coach.
On top of that, we don't know that we can
trust him with the quarterback we draft top five balls.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The best word to use, trust the best word.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
And so I just wonder if this is going to
be used as more evidence of why they wouldn't welcome
him in or bring him in to be a head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I mean, but for his I don't know.
Speaker 7 (11:47):
For as good as he was as a defensive coordinator
of the past couple of seasons for Minnesota, he didn't
get any of interviews last year. He was he was
actually asked about it, and he said he's fine with
kind of where he's at. I wonder if there's an
element of him having to earn back the trust, since
that's the word we're using amongst the NFL. Can you can,
I think you can, I mean think about it. Josh McDaniels.
(12:09):
After whatever happened in Indianapolis, you know, after going to Denver,
and I mean we all kind of tend to forget,
but there was a Spygate two scenario that played out there.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I mean that all ultimately ended up.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
Being his undoing, and he's still got another opportunity with
the Las Vegas Raiders. I mean, heck, he almost got
another opportunity with the Colts had he signed the deal
to be their head coach. So I think we tend
to be a forgiving culture, one that looks for that
comeback at times. And I do think Brian Flores is
(12:42):
one of the best defensive minds in the NFL. So
you know, for teams out there that are looking for
a young defensive mind who's done a tremendous job, like
he would be that guy. I think he will get
an opportunity sometime the next maybe five years, and it
might take that long, but I think he will.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Start getting interviews again.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I think you will earn back the trust of of
someone you know and and and we'll see, we'll see
if and when that happens. But I don't think it's
gonna be a lifelong defensive coordinator because of whatever the
allegations were in Miami, unless he just has like people
that are actively working against him every single year.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
And that's the hard thing is if your resume and
your highest point or highest position.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Is the head coaching job with the Miami Dolphins, and
that's who every team goes back to say, you know,
calls to say, hey, tell me about this.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
How'd that work out? What was this like? And those
guys are.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Constantly like, yeah, no, you don't want to hire this guy.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
That's gonna be difficult. It's gonna be hard to overcome that.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean, it's in his foul though, right.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
At the top. It's at the top of the rest.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
It's in his foule, you know, And that's just to me,
I feel like that's super damning. Like spygate has something
to do with the game, you know, these things that
that people can bounce back. I've seen it from the
from the game aspect of it, like okay, you got
you got caught cheating, or something to that effect. Sean
(14:08):
Payton was you know, the hey coach, Wow, you know
bounty gate took place. I get that people can forgive
and forget and have a redemption story for that. But
suing suing a franchise, bring a lawsuit against a franchise,
They're going to open up that foul when he goes
into interview.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Right at the top, and they're gonna.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Look at it and they're gonna be like, so, so.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You sued, and you sue.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
A franchise, you know, like right like right at the
very top.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
He's like, let's get let's get right the way.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
I want to get some stuff out of the way.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Let's get let's get Why why mess around about it?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You're here for an interview, Let's get to it.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
What went wrong last time?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Well accused the organization of tampering and tanking. And then also, uh,
by the way he sucked.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I just was protecting my own interests. You know, I
know that it would go this far. I ain't know
that i'd be.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Depicted this way, but hey, it happened. I'm sorry. I
have regrets.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
If I could have handled it better, I would have
handled it better, you know. But this is where we're
at right now. Like, yeah, you could get five years,
ten years removed from it, but I just don't think
he ever gets far enough away from a foul and
a paperwork showing what happened and what transpired.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I say, starting forking them.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
Can we play a no, He'll get ahead coaching job
or opportunity again.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
I bet it will.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
Let's play a little game.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Let's let's play a little game with our own resumes,
all right, So and obviously radio excluded from this, you know,
the playing career excluded. Like resume of which job you
do not want other people to ask about that you
have previously worked in your lifetime?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Which I mean, Jonas, there it is.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
There's the game, sofy chick. I was looking for, m hm,
which one?
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Which one is that job you do not want them
to ask about? Call for a reference, Call for a
referral of any sort on your own.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
I worked at a retirement home in high school as
a waiter, and uh got fired because I called the
the boss something not so nice in front of all
the the residents there, because I didn't.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Want to do at those places.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah, but they were so like the people are so sweet,
Like that's what like, elderly people have such a soft
spot in my heart. And they were so nice, and
I just thought that they were.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Like, yeah, oh, Jonas is the no.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
But but like the the the word that I use, uh,
the one, because I mean you know that that shows
that I'm great with kids, I'm willing to entertain, I'm
willing to make it about them and me. This was
just one of the worst words you can use towards somebody,
and I used it, and I was just upset. And
(17:09):
then I came back in two days later to punch
in and realized my time card wasn't there anymore, and
I was basically escorted out of the building by security.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
So did you pull the old Let's act like that
never happened. If anyone notices that's actually a George guest stands.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Up boot from Yeah, I mean I thought it was
odd that I didn't hear anything back from anybody. I
was like, yeah, listen, there was an issue, but you know,
she was treating the guests poorly. You know, I get
along with all them. All the other employees were there.
They saw what she was doing. It was out of line,
and I was sure nothing So.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
You feel like you were justified, but you're still nonetheless
fell on the wrong side.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
The older I get, the more I go, yeah, it
probably couldn't use some different language, you know, like that
wasn't a good look. So I would say that one
was probably the one that I've you know, it's not
knock everywhere else. You know, I got laid off my
first radio job. That's fine, you know is when it
is that doesn't count.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Care about that?
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I mean what the one that you you were like,
I really don't want to have to talk about that one.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, i'd say for me doing construction the summer before
my freshman year of college, I was not cut out
to be a construction worker. If if I had to
be one to make it in life, I probably would
be one of the people that Lee is.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Hanging out with right now. Right now. That's what I.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Said right now, which is I would not want that
to be a reference call for my work ethic, for
my consistency, for you know, my professionalism.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Just I would not want that call to take place.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah, I mean I was found napping in a porter
John a porter potty.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I was tired.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Oh how about that that smell?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Well, you know, you put put put something over your face,
you sit down, and you find ways to get get sleep.
I didn't get very much done. I need, they had
they had us moving rebar Uh. It was very heavy, yeah,
till two of us. At times sometimes I could do
(19:14):
it by myself. I didn't want to do that. So
got to a certain point where I just had to
have a conversation with myself, and I saidself, I looked
in the mirror, I said, is this really worth the
hourly rate? I mean, they get you a job so
you could make money and have money, and they pay
you a lot more than what they would generally pay
(19:37):
because of your your set up, in your situation.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
It did not add up for me. It wasn't.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
It was not enough money for me to be able
to push through and be a better employee. So for that,
I'm ashamed of or would not want to have that
being referenced on my resume.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
What about you, Braid? What are we looking at? Both?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
It'd probably be the first, It'd probably be the bogue
in I just there was there's too many regrettable things.
Granted I was immature, but how I reacted to a
lot of the people who I mean, first off, I
really didn't necessarily always know what I was doing as
a busboy.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Like you're you know, you got to clear the tables.
But there's other things that are involved. I uh, the
water jug for the volleyball courts.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
I mean the amount of people that would come and
complain and yell at us for the water quality, which
I had no responsibility over some of.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Uh, I don't know, the retaliation. Uh, some of that's regrettable.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
No, no, what did you do to the sparkling Joe?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Not that bad? Not that bad.
Speaker 6 (20:41):
It's just come on, come on, Yeah, it wasn't It
wasn't like that.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It sounded like it though. No.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
I mean like we had put some like salt and
other stuff to make it even like worse at times,
just because we're like, all right.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
If you complain about.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I think at one point we basically made it like
a LeVar Island, Chris.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
It was like a whole concoction of love things.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I mean the way Albert Breer talks about the Bogia
and that's not you know, it doesn't seem like that
bad of a problem there.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
It seems like, well it's not open anymore. Well, yeah,
you know, we're all good here.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
So yeah listen, Brian Flores, we've all been there, man,
So you know it bounce back.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
We'll get an opportunity at some point.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
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Speaker 4 (22:38):
All right, we'll keep you posting on that. Well well Welle,
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Speaker 5 (22:42):
Coming up at about fifteen minutes from now, we are
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dot Com studios. Good christ Man, he.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Said, I can't wait.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Unbelievable. Did he have a day off and I didn't
know what the f man? All right, well there's that.
I have no idea what condition he's going to be.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I mean, very jovial, like everything is all right.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I don't think he knows.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I think he knows.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
But maybe it was the Adele song that Lorena played
that really really got him going, Oh no, I what
do you think happened? Like if you guys had to guess, like,
what would you say? The the the reasoning.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Whil does he have a mode of transportation.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
He had to get a ride home yesterday, right, then
you have to take him right, yes, So if he
had to get a ride.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
Home, it was fine.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
He was tired, he wasn't too ghassy.
Speaker 10 (24:05):
No, he did not disrespect my vehicle.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Oh oh that's nice, Okay, but he did.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
He did say he had to finish business when he
got inside.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
So, but did he have a conversation about his transportation,
because obviously you were his uber driver yesterday, so was
there a conversation surrounding his transportation? Did he say when
he would have a means of transportation while he was
getting transported by you?
Speaker 10 (24:32):
Well, when I dropped him off in front of his house,
I saw that his car was parked out front, and
I smacked it, and I was like, maybe you should
try to turning her on again, so you even get
her started up, you know, because she's a little finicky sometimes.
Just got a push to start, you know. But it
looked like it was still pretty dad, and it was
in rough condition too, let's just put it that way.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, like Lee, Yeah, it
was real rough. And when I left, I was.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Like, oh, alright, any of the well there you go.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, So there's the there's the update on lead to lap.
We will let you know as soon as he arrives
what what that looks like and sounds like?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I mean, do you guys just want to throw him
straight on the air when he walks in, or.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Do we want to give you time to get.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Like, give him time to get a cup of coffee
in his system? Just throw him straight on the air.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I bet he still has his Curry shirt on. Oh
got If he does, that's inexcusable.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
He had Curry two nights ago and he had stains
on it for forty eight hours.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
That's inexcusable. Just get it, like, I don't care what
the bums did in his car.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like he's still got closed right, he has a go
bag in his car at all times, and last I checked,
he got that thing back. So I mean, open up
your your your zip lock bag and pull his shirt out.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
All right?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Well whatever, we'll figure that out with with Lee when
it when it comes up here, it is two pros
and a cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio Lavarre.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
This sound like your voice went from the fun with
it to really irritate.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
It because I think he's gonna walk in with the
same shirt that's got curry on it, like what he
did yesterday.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
And he was too hat to laugh at the same time,
So that's what I wanted to laugh.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I swear to between I.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Was talking to Brady about this. I admire him. I
swear to God like his recklessly, his reckless, abandoned for life.
Like I if I on a random weeknight, my dinner
was a chili dog and two shots of tequila, I
literally would would jump off a bridge the next day
like I would be so I would question everything.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I would be bothered with where I was at with everything.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yes, Lee just walks right through it, like just walks
right They Oh, no, that's that's what it is. Like
listen like it's and he's just living man like there's
something about that. We really think I appreciate it, so
it looks like, uh, it's so. Aaron Rodgers is a
(27:00):
big fan of these difficult training camps that the Jets
are having. He called him the most difficult he's had
in the last seven or eight years. That some of
the veteran players you know enjoy this style being calloused
up to the regular season, but he's not going to
most likely play in their final preseason game against the Giants,
So basically they're just going to get him out there
(27:23):
Week one, primetime on Monday Night at the Niners, a
place where historically he has not had a ton of success,
and he's had you know, fourteen snaps preseason included in
the last year and a half. Is that the right
approach for somebody coming off this injury or is there
cause for concern that there's going to be some rust,
(27:45):
especially early on in that game, if they get after
him a little bit.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
I mean, of course there could be Russ, But like you're,
you know, kind of forgetting he's played football for many, many,
many years. So as much as we want to act
like there's Russ, it's not like he's just sitting around
not doing anything. It's like he's getting off the couch
and jumping onto a football field playing quarterback. So I'm
not as quite concerned about it. I understand it's just
(28:09):
too big of a risk. I mean, imagine him going
out in the field and getting hurt in a preseason game.
Like if this isn't all in year for Robert Sala
and everyone else who's been involved with the decision to
bring in Rogers and put this all together, that.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Would be the end of it. I mean that would
literally be the end of it.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
So's it's too great of a risk in my opinion,
and I think he'll I mean, look, how the game
goes will be one thing, because even when he has
been prepared, has been historically, you know, one of the
at the top of his game, he's still struggled versus
this team that place, So regardless of how his health.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Is, I mean, it's still gonna be a struggle no
matter what.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm curious as to.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
The details of what's making it such a taxing training camp,
Like is it what's what's making it more work into oh,
bowling the ring, that's see, That's what I'm wondering. I'm
curious as to you ring. Is it based upon the
physicality of how the practices.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Are being being ran and how they're being held, And if.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
So, how does that tax a quarterback? This has been
one of the more I'm just curious what makes a
training camp taxing for a quarterback? The only thing I
could see is the conditioning.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Well, because they're not they don't get touched.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Damn, what do they.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Do like quarterbacks call the plays, they handed off, they
throw the ball.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like, what else do they do? What makes it taxing
for him? That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Is it the meeting schedule, because there could be more meetings?
I mean there there. I mean there could be a
lot of things that make it taxing in terms of
time or in terms of if we're talking again, if
it's the physical aspect of it, what are.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
They conditioning more? Is it? Is it? Is it a
high pace practice? Like? What makes it taxing? On a QB?
Speaker 6 (30:16):
I mean it's pretty game or what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Well, he said this training camp has been one of
the more taxing training camps.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Correct or did I read it roll?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Yeah? That he said it's one of the most taxing
in the last seventy eight years.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, Well, I'm curious, you're qb Q. I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
What makes it more taxing than the other six seven
years of him being a quarterback?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
What's taxing the versus not?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I don't know that he's talking specifically to his taxing.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
I mean maybe a lot of throws, a lot of
you know, a lot of.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Condition running things like that.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
He's probably talking from the perspective of the entire team. Okay,
that's my best guess. I don't know that any quarterback
would sit there and say, like, hey, training camps as
taxing is I mean outside of specialists, you know, like
you're punters and kickers. You know, you're kind of next
in line for not really doing as much. So that's
how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I mean I could see it as like again, like
meeting schedules could be very very grueling, especially I would
assume four quarterback because you got to know so much.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
How long are meetings, by the way, like an hour?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I mean you go all day, really hours, you go
all day.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
If you're not on the field or rehabbing or getting food,
your meeting, Like that's generally how I mean, that's how
it used to be.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Like in the room for like two hours, three hours.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
At break camp, you break the last meeting you break
at like somewhere close to ten o'clock.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Sometimes anybody sneak a flask in or anything like that,
or is that is that not allowed at.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Some of those places?
Speaker 6 (31:57):
You know?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I don't know how do you pass it?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Like if guys are tired, I mean, do they have
just like a horseshoe of Copenhagen.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
In they.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Sins are pretty popular, right.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I used to do a dip once a camp one
time in the camp one.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Time, Yeah, just one.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
What'd you do, Kodiak, It's.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Copenhagen and that as gets you for ride?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Did you get noxious?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh yeah, like heat flashes got me through the meeting?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Oh man, Well it's not recommended, folks like.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Not recommended, But I did the dip one time. Every
year did that dip.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
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What day?
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What time is it it is?
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Lee?
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Yeah, pretty such. I thought we all knew that.
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No, she didn't officially do it until.
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Today today she did it.
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Well, yes, yes, I did not know about their separation
since Ekel. It seemed like they're miserable though. I don't
know why they get back together.
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I don't know why they nemever look happy. They always
look so upset.
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I got a pretty good idea, why why why j
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Know, spicy some of the others all you need some
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