September 18, 2024 • 37 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Dolphins place Tua on IR in order to save face. Monday Night Football ratings take a dip, but who’s to blame? Plus, t-shirt guns, biscuits and much more!
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Speaker 2 (02:41):
So we got the news yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't know this is this much of a surprise,
but the Dolphins are placing Tua talka buy loa on
I R. He will have to miss at least four games.
Now is it four games or four weeks?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
If the specifics on that, because they four weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, so he'll be out for four weeks, four games whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But the move was made.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
They brought in Snoop Puntley, who we were trying to
figure out when that name changed. They've got Skyler Thompson there,
and so now this star I mean I've never heard of.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, it sounds a little bit like a point star
name though, doesn't.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
It Skyler Thompson? I mean yeah, but I know now,
I mean, thanks, you are aware of that. I saw
that in the show notes, Hey, you guys are good
at good at identifying porn names.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So so that being said, is the season on the
brink for the Dolphins?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
If two is out for these four games? And what's
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I can't figure out the TVs right now. The Alien
Coop watches zero sports on TV during the Ben Mallory Show.
But that being said, a lot of watching TV. Well,
I mean, the Dolphins is gonna be watching the playoffs
at home? There to be watching a lot of TV stretch. Yeah,
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come on, have a little faith.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
They got enough talent.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But here's their schedule coming up at Seattle versus Tennessee
at New England by Yeah, that's not bad. They could
they can theoretically go on two and one, three and zero.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I guess if it was gonna happen, this is probably
the best part of the schedule. It could have happened.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Why can't you guys be a little more respectful of
the New England Patriots, Like.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I don't know that we know who they are, I
mean would.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Be I've been nothing but respectful of them this entire offseason.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I'm not saying that they are not going to be good.
I'm just saying that that three game stretch, granted two
of the three are on the road, it still gives
you a shot. And here's the other thing. I don't
know if it's Scalar Thompson's going to be the guy,
or Snoop or Tyler Huntley is gonna end up being
elevated into the role. I personally like Tyler Huntley. I
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think he'd probably be better for the system. And one
of the reasons why I think he's going to be
able to adapt to it faster than people think is
he's been with Stefanski and that tree actually comes from
the Mike Shanahan tree, which obviously Mike McDaniel's from, but
Stefanski was with Kubiak Kubiak who comes from Mike Shanahan
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and all that. So the terminology should be similar even
though they don't run or doesn't look exactly the same
in Cleveland, and obviously what Miami does there is gonna
be some similarities as far as the verbiage and some
of the terminology. So I think he'll be able to
get up to speed relatively fast. And I'm sure that
was part of the thought process and bringing him in specifically.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
By the way, you want to know how bad Will
Levis and the Titans have been through two games, which,
according to our friends of DraftKings, the look ahead betting
line on the Dolphins Titans for next week, not this week,
but the week after, the Dolphins are six and a
half point favorite. The hell is that six and a
half point fit with with no Tua? That that feels
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like a bit of a stretch. But maybe to your point,
this is if you're going to have this happen, this
is the time of year, and this is the stretch
that it can happen and save the sea.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
You know, I made the point in a show prior
after the Tua concussion that this is a bad look
for the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
This isn't just a bad.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Look if we're looking at it in terms of how
does this houses get handled by the Dolphins. This is
a this is a shield issue, and you know, you
look around and you see how many people are chiming in,
People that don't even pay attention to football are chiming
in on Tua and what he should do. This is
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this has transcended just being a football topic, a a
Dolphins topic. This is a yeah, you do hate it
because everybody who's talking about it, they take the narrative,
they take the lane of he's got to retire, Oh
my gosh, his health for the rest of his life.
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He what you know, then you had players doing it,
you know. I don't know if you guys saw what
Nate Burleson did, like where he got a message. He
reached out to Javit Bess who if you know who,
remember who he was. He was pretty talented running back
out of cow that got drafted to Detroit, and he
kept getting concussions and he had the same like he
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had the same type of symptoms when he went down
and got a concussion, looked like he got knocked out,
like by a puncher in a boxing match. Like, same
type of way to a look when he got knocked out.
So I thought it was interesting that, Okay, you bring
in to play getting a message from him, You read
the message and you're talking about you know what. His
decision was based off of how he felt about the
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quality of his health moving on in his life. And
that seems to be the overarching theme, which again probably
should be the overarching theme, is to think about your
long term health when you see you know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
To your point, though, Like I find it interesting, like
when we see someone smoking a cigarette, how many times
we walk up to them and go, hey, keep doing that,
you're probably gonna get lung cats.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
For your long term.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, when hey, hey, buddy, you should probably put the
bottle down. That's not gonna be good for your liver, right, Like,
how often do we ever, like impart ourselves on other
people's lives with their unhealthy habits or poor decisions.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
It's got to be really bad for you going to
get cut off at a bar, like for someone to
say you've had enough, Like, it's got.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
To get really really bad at that point.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And and I'm not doing it for your long term health.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
They're doing it because liability probably their own.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, they don't want to get you.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You get what I'm saying. Like people were smoking cigarettes
and all that, it's like, oh, no, one will walk
something and says he you really should quit. You really
should stop thinking about that. And it's like it only
comes to like sports, when all of a sudden everyone
comes out and they're, oh, I have an opinion on it.
It's like that, No, you could just go back to
what you were doing before and then let the experts,
let the football people, let to his family, the doctors
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around him, let them make a decision for him. It's
his life.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
And I think the problem and the point that I
guess I'm making right now is I think again, I
know I said the NFL needed to how are they
going to handle this?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Because they indeed have to have a hand in this.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
I do not think that they can stay out of
out of the decision making process or outside of what
it is that the Dolphins are going to do because
of the optics of how important it is the way
they handle this scenario based upon the stigmas and the
judgments of what CTE has created and concussions has created
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in terms of the narrative of the game of football.
So to me, I think this is just as much
the NFL being a part of the conversations with the
Dolphins in terms of, hey, how are we handling this,
let's let's take let's do ir so we have some
more time to try to figure out how exactly we
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go about handling this. This is too specific of a large,
a large conversation and problem that was was super super
prevalent for a moment in time for football, for the NFL,
they had to combat concussions.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
On a standalone stage again, like the Thursday night he
suffered the one against Cincinnati. This was the Thursday night game.
So you got a lot of people who you know,
and it's not mixed. Like listen the first year he
suffered those concussions. Kenny Pickett got two concussions that year too,
like multiple concussions. It's how it looks with two weeks,
I know, but it's the look of it was. Also
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when Kenny Pickett's happened, it was like in the midst
of like a bunch of games in the early window
on a Sunday, and so it didn't get the attention
or the coverage, but he dealt with that too.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Two was the only one that got talked about because
of the way it looks. I'm telling you, it's it's
it's a horror story.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
For I think we all understand what you're saying. It's
just at the end of the day, I mean, four
weeks we'll go by, he'll probably choose to come back
and play and then we'll move on like that. That's
what we do. Like that's the reality of all this.
And and look, I'm not trying to make a case
for against CT or anything like that, and not an expert.
(11:42):
I just feel like there was still a lot that's
that's kind of unknown in regards to our brain, how
it works, what impacts it, and and the direct correlation
with with football and all that. There's a lot of
sports that, you know, if you really do the research
and really look at it, you can attribute to you know,
women's soccer at the high school level, a lot of concussions,
a lot of head he injuries, you know, headers things
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of that nature.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
It's the highest, it was the highest women's soccer.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So like, are we just going to start taking away
every single sport because there's this thought that it causes CT. Well,
we don't really know. And I think that's most likely
where this is all going to end. And if we're
being real, if if a doctor clears him and he
can go back to play, there's a lot of money
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that's going to be left on the table if he
chooses not to. And there's nothing wrong with that. Tu
has made enough money to be able to take care
of himself the rest of his life. It's his own decision.
But you'd be crazy not to think that he's about
twenty million. Are twenty million be left on the table.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I just think it's the coverage. We can talk about
the other sports, and we can talk about where.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Don't you think this is smart to put him on
EYR because then you have going to go away.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yes, you have to, but but the moment he comes back,
it's going to comeback.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
The conversation especially are going to.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Come back, especially the criticism the Dolphins got over the handling,
whether it was an independent neurologist or whatever. Why was
he back out there? You knew he has suffered a concussion.
Why was he back out there on a short week?
Speaker 8 (13:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Last? Yeah there.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
I don't think it turns into like what it turned
into when that movie came out. But I've got it.
Yeah idea. By the way, I think we need more
inside information. I've got an idea. I think we I
think we send in Lee. We send in Lee to Lap.
We have him somehow, we get him to be a character.
(13:37):
Maybe it's a little early for Halloween, obviously we're soil
in September, but maybe we have him dress up and
he becomes one of the four known experts or neurologists
in this field.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
We have Lee spend the next three four weeks in
South Florida helping us get a better understanding of what's
happening with Tuam.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
He has the biggest smile on his face, grabbing the microphone.
Let's hear the intellect can you and and the i
Q of one lead to lap come out talking about.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
The place you could stay.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Let me tell you why you shouldn't scoff at that
based on some of the opinions that are thrown out, Buddy's,
Lee's has got as good a credentials as anybody.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
How you feel about this, Lee, I feel very confident
I have.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
I have a lot of experience with head trauma.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Is that mostly induced? Mostly induced by your ex girlfriends?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That is partly so, yes, more recently than you imagine.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Lee walks into the Lee walks into the building with
a briefcase, and they're like, weren't you just at the
Clevelander last night?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Listen to a different.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Guy, Lee. We got to cut your hair though, to
a normal haircut. You can have a bullet You're walking
around as.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
A neurologist, right, somebody's got a rocket man.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
No one has to You're you're you're too old for that.
And the other thing is, if you're really going to
go through with this, we need you to look the
part and to be acting the part. And I think
you're capable of it. I see you to commit to it.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I could do that. I think the mullet has come
to an end. By the way, thank you. Yeah, I
don't know, man, I thank you for rock hit on
with that.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Kenny, you have to be like Australian or something. You know,
you have to be like one of those like cool
neurologists who's like, I, mate, yeah, no, I'm a neurologist, right, yeah,
but uh I I also saif and uh I once
you know, I didn't go hit my baby that sort
of thing.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Tang.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, the guys in Pittsburgh don't look like that. They
don't have bullets. The guys in Pittsburgh you go see
for the door, Yeah, they don't know. They don't know mullets.
I was also thinking about this when it comes to
the to a discussion, like, I wonder how much of
the hesitancy from the Dolphins to pay him was about
(15:48):
this stuff, because I don't think you can argue that
he wasn't deserving of a contract based on his play.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Like he's been great under Mike McDaniel. I wonder if.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The delay was Miami's concern over stuff like this and
not even just the concussions. He's had injuries throughout the
course of his career, even going back all the way
to college. I wonder how much of that was about
all Right, we like the play, we don't like the
fact that there's been some problems both concussion wise and
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health wise elsewhere on the body.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And maybe that's why.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
They were a little bit wary of maybe wanting to
give him the deal that he got.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And I don't know if that's.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Written your injuries.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
If you have an injury history, that's always going to
play a part, and if a team wants to sign
you to a big deal or a long term extension
or whatever it may be. Yeah, that's why injury only
guarantees injury only there you go, because.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Then it allows them the power to be able to
have a doctor say nope, I think you can go
back in and play, you know, I mean, that's that's
the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Jeez.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Well, but a factor which he may get a doctor
that says he can't, which means that he's going to
get injury money.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
They would probably settle though in that case, like I don't.
I think if they had conflicting opinions, they would most likely,
you know, have to settle somewhere if if he chose
not to play anymore, because because that's really what's a stake.
If he chooses to come back and play, then it
it's the same do.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I would be shocked if he doesn't come back
and play.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
He's coming back. He's coming back.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, He's a warrior man like that. That's the one
thing I'd say about all his career. Okay, but he's
a warrior. Do you remember when he had the hip injury,
Like he came back too soon with a tightrope surgery
to play Burrow, Like he literally was limping around in
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that game. And I remember talking to Tom Rinaldi about
this at the time, because I believe he might have
been actually working on that game. But he said he'd
suffered a concussion as well. That's what a lot of
people don't understand, is that injury. Well, you know, everyone
focused on the hip injury, you know, because he was
coming back from the tyrope, wasn't moving very well. He
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suffers the hip injury They're like, no, no, no, Remember there's
blood on his nose everything else. He had a concussion
that play too, so there was I mean he's been
through a lot throughout the course of his career, dating
back to Alabama, and he always comes back. Man, he
is a warrior. No one can dispute that.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Hell of a player.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
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one nineteen five?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Isn't it maybe five hour flight? Two hours? Maybe? Yeah?
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Here coming up in about fifteen minutes from now, we're
going to tell you about something that got kind of
buried during Monday Night Football. Apparently this was a problem
for people involved in the game. We will get into
that for you again fifteen minutes from now. Speaking of problems,
apparently the week one to Week two performance of Monday
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Night Football with the Manning cast and the simulcast on ABC,
apparently the numbers took a little bit of a dip.
The Manning cast on ESPN two, reported by Mike Florio,
pro Football Talk rebounded from a low of eight hundred
and seventy two thousand viewers. They did one point three
to four million this past Monday night, and with the
(22:26):
ABC simulcast not being a part of the broadcast, the
total audience fell from twenty point five million to fifteen
million in week one for week two. So it feels like,
and I know the strategy for ESPN, like, hey, you know,
why let the Manning cast go elsewhere? And if we're
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going to take a hit from the regular broadcast, at
least we're going to keep it in the house and
keep it in house. I just wonder how many people
have been spoiled by those two guys and are now
looking at this going why would I go watch the
regulardcast when I can get insight like guys from Matt Ryan,
Bill Belichick, et cetera, and I can get a different
view of the game. I personally would rather watch Troy
(23:08):
Aikman and Joe Buck. I hardly watched the Manning cast,
but apparently people are choosing that avenue to take when it.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Comes to I watched this past week and only because
of the guests that I was curious to see what
they were going to say, I also think the interesting
thing is, you know, Matt Ryan goes on as a
member of CBS, which is interesting only because typically networks
don't want you do that. So it was a bit
(23:35):
odd that that was all able to work out. And maybe,
like you can't say the CBS doesn't view ESPN ABC
as a competitor, because they are, but for whatever reason
they let that one go. Maybe it's more about, you know,
drawing attention to Matt Ryan this year being a part
of the CBS coverage. I'm not sure sure which, but
some great conversations, in particular down the stretch where you know,
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Matt Ryan paidon Manninger saying hey, don't throw, don't throw.
You know, Matt Ryan obviously was a part of a
game the Super Bowl where they did throw on a
third down. It did it did stop the clock. So
there was all these kind of you know, backstories that
played a role in that. At the end of the day,
I Jalen Hurts completes it to Saquon Barkley and he
even catches it. We're not even having this conversation, which
(24:19):
is one of the reasons why as much as I
appreciate the analysis, I've also told you guys before, there's
a term called resulting, and that's where you just look
at purely the result of something and say was it
a good decision or bad decision based on result, which
anyone can do right, any Joe Blow on Twitter or
x or somewhere else can do that. The point is
you're supposed to point out, well, why do we run
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the play? The box was stacked, We actually had to
look for it, and when we saw the play ran
and actually was the perfect play for it. You know,
Saguon Barkley not only catches that and gets the first down,
he might just score a touchdown. So in the end,
it's not so much about what was that the right
play call? Of course it was. They just didn't execute.
So it could have been a run play. If they
would have fumbled the ball on the run play with
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Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan be saying, oh see, they
shouldn't have run it, No, they would have said, well,
it was the right call they used to't execute. So anyway,
not to get off on that tangent, what's interesting is this,
this show was always going to cannibalize a little bit
of the ratings for Monday Night Football, and it's interesting
that ESPN would want to do something like this to
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showcase it. I mean, I know it's good for the NFL,
but you know, at the end of the day, it's
a completely different show if anyone watches it. So it's
surprising to me that you would want to invest so
much in Troyan and Joe Buck and then turn around
and invest more into Peyton Manning and Eli Manning and
doing the Manning cast and then take a hit on
one side of the numbers and then try to build
(25:42):
this other audience. Well, it's kind of the same audience.
It's the same people who want to watch Monday Night football,
maybe with a little more x's and o's and insight
to it. And I think if you go and look
at you know what they did this most recent Monday Night,
it felt like it was more of a podcast with
Jason Kelcey than anything else. So I'm not sure if
that turned people off and maybe that had a little
(26:03):
bit to do with the ratings being down, or if
this is purely a byproduct of ABC not being a
part of it and ESPN not being able to lump
in all those numbers. Now that the entire Direct TV
dispute's all done with.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I in seeing how it's turned out for Troy Aikman
and Joe Buck there, Like, you can't argue that it
doesn't sound better, Like the presentation is better with those
two guys there.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
And it's not to take a shot at anybody that
was doing the games.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Before, but Lewis Riddick and Riddick and who else.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It was Riddick it was?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Was it Steve Levy I think was on the call
at one point. It was bad for a while and
it just but it does like those two guys. You
hear the three man booth at one point, Yeah, and
they had you know, Booger McFarlane was on some foe.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You know, like doing.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But when you do hear those guys, there is a
big game feel that Troy Aikman and Joe Buck bring
in my mind, just based on all the big games
they called for Fox. So that definitely has helped the
presentation and the product for me. But yeah, man, Jason
Kelce just like he was in there for so long
and it felt like all right, well this will be
(27:15):
it and then he'll move on and they'll but they
would come back and he was still there and still
there and still there. So maybe that is an aspect
of it to where people were like, dude, there's two
teams in this game, like, you know, are me, are
you going to bring in an Atlanta Falcon? You're going
to bring in somebody from their side? Or is this
going to all be about let's show off, you know,
our high priced free agent that we brought in to
(27:37):
be a part of the broadcast pregame and then continue
to cater to that audience and you know, whether that's
Taylor Swift or whether that's the podcast they have. I
do wonder if part of that was the turnoff there
and maybe people just didn't want to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Well that maybe people that just want to watch football
want to watch football. Yeah, maybe that's part of it too.
I mean, even if you were a Swifty or what
and you got introduced to the game because of the
relationship between Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift, there might be
elements of it where like, you want to watch football too,
Like that's what actually attracted you to it. It's not
(28:12):
whatever the hell you were doing before and whatever you
were watching before. It's unique, it's different, and it kind
of gives you, Like many people out there who watch sports,
it gives you some sort of relief from everything else
that's going on in the world. Maybe that was what
some of it was about.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, it could have been Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe.
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Speaker 5 (29:54):
Lap Good more than everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Good morning Jonas, Good morning LaVar, Good morning Brady.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
Hey guys, In case you missed this, I think we
all remember Drake London getting penalized after his go ahead
touchdown Monday night on Monday Night Football, after what looked
like him spraying fake bullets into the crowd. Well, his
coach Raheem Morris came to his defense a lot yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Hey, LeVar, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Atlanta Falcon's head coach Raheem Morris came to his defense
yesterday in a press conference and gave a much more
subtle explanation for that touchdown celebration.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know, I guess it was it was the use
of a weapon. How people interpreted that as a fine,
as a as a penalty, And you know, Drake is
you know, Drake is a great kid, and his intent
was not as a use of a weapon. He probably
was shooting T shirts into the stands to be honest
with you though, because he's just that kind of a guy.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But come on, man, the old T shirt cannon celebration,
he was shooting.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Ah, well, so what so wide?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Okay, listen, he represents the eight oh five More Park, California.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You can do whatever the hell he wants.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Sports Man guys do the arrow shot all the time
and they don't get penn a last for it.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's what I was saying.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's who cares. It's just it's you know,
you're celebrating.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, who is the guy for the Bengals?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
If you pulled out a real he pulled out a
real strap. That's different, Like you pull out a real star.
I don't care if it's a water guy. You pull
out a prop Now, that's different.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, this was the last boy scout, but he got up.
I can understand the argument.
Speaker 9 (31:25):
Remember any given Sunday they have the best celebrations with
the the football grenade and everything like.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That, Like I do, like Rahie Morris trying to sell
us on it was a T shirt cannon. Yeah, okay,
it's sure thing, man, no reason to go there.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Sure thing.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
What else?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
We got guys in college football?
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Marshal's gonna be taking on Ohio State this weekend, and
Marshall's head coach Charles Huff had some interesting uh yes,
I had some interesting uh potential offers n il offers
for any Ohio State transfers coming up.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Take a listen to Charles Huff.
Speaker 11 (32:02):
I'd love to have some of those guys from Ohio
State too, So if they want to transfer on down,
We've got a tutor. Yea Tutor's biscuit. Nil all you
can eat. So if any of those guys that run
really really fast at Ohio State like tutors biscuits, I
promise you all you can eat all day if you transfer.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Here Tutor's biscuits.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
And I know he's speaking tongue in cheek, but in
a way. This is tampering, and this is in all
reality what's going on behind the scenes with some schools
some places. Now not this way, not Ohio State to Marshall,
but more like Marshall's best Players to Ohio State or
et cetera. This is what's going on by the scenes.
(32:48):
So it's funny to laugh at. But unfortunately rosters you know,
of these group of five teams or a Sunbelt team
like Marshall, have been impacted by stuff like this. Not
necessarily this deal.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Though, Tutor's Biscuit World got a shout out though, good
for that.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
They've got to be a big sponsor. If he's going
to shout them out like.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That, have to be. Yeah, how do you guys feel
about biscuits?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
By the way, too fattening for me, a little dry.
It means you having a good biscuit jelly and honey.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Jail.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Oh yeah, oh jam jamm.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Biscuit jam for me.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Now hey, hey, for real, doubt some jam or some
honey and some butter. If it's hot, I'm cool with it.
If it's if it's smothered in like sausage gravy, But
to me, that's my fat boy.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So biscuits are so good. I don't know how you
cannot do it.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
I can't do it too many calories.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
They're dry because you don't make them right A little.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
I don't make them at all, okay, but a little dry.
I mean, we all could use some biscuits in our life,
if you know what I mean. Yeah, I guess it's
from eating all them biscuits. Come on, man, let's get
(34:08):
Chris on the porch.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
They're about to start trick.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
What else?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Guys?
Speaker 9 (34:17):
We were about two months away from Mike Tyson versus
Jake Paul, but Mike Tyson recently spoke with Josh Peter
at USA Today's Sports.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
It's hard to walk right now? Yeah, I saw you
had a Stick City jersey on in Dallas, right really?
And when he when he went to midfield and met
up with Jake Paul, You know Mike.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Tyson did, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
He had on a Micah jersey.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Pretty cool Micah to make the number famous. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
He was a Phil Simms guy.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Yeah, go ahead, go finish, finish.
Speaker 9 (34:46):
Mike Tyson did say it's hard to walk right now,
but two months from now, I'm going to be perfect dang,
this is such.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
A horrible idea. It really is, like, what are we
doing here?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Here?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Aren't even gonna make it to the fight.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's sixty years old, and they're they're you know, you know,
they're using big gloves, and they're you know, it's just
two minute rounds and it's eight two minute rounds.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But like, come on, man, and here's the problem. I'm
gonna watch.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
And they will get my money and I will gladly
handle it because I just want to see Mike Tyson
fight again. But it's not gonna look at anything like
the Mike Tyson we're used to. Although Britney Griner apparently
wants to throw down based on what happened in WNBA
last night, I was not aware of that until it
popped up.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
You see that, Oh, could you update be on the WNBA.
I wasn't watching last night exactly TV.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Britney Grinder wanting to throw down at a at a
Sparks game.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
What else we got, leading guys, In case you missed this,
PGA tour players and live golf players are at a
crossroads in terms of an agreed upon merger, which has
been at a standstill for much of the year. According
to a report from Bloomberg, Talks inch closer towards the
finish last week, but money seems to be the hold up,
as some PGA players want Jon Roum and others to
hand back money they've made from live Other options include
(36:02):
paying fines to participate in events, giving to charity, or
agreeing to forfeit any future career winnings on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
What why would I have to give back money?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Well, I mean, I'm not so sure about giving back money,
but like buying back into the PGA Tour might make
some sense if you're if you're a PGA Tour player
and you're upset about the fact that they basically left
for money, and now you're trying to set like the
precedent and of like, all right, if anyone else wants
to do this, here you go. The truth is, I'm
(36:31):
not sure that you're going to penalize them for winning
future earnings, Like if they win, they win, like like
let them have their reward for that. But if there's
a buy back, you know, or a buy in to
get back in the PGA Tour, I could see that
that might make some sense. But this whole thing, man
it's it's drug gone way too long. These two sides
(36:52):
need to come together.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And you know these lame golf competitions they do in
Vegas where they take two football players against two football players,
Like why don't they just do live versus PGA, win
or take all, Like let's like, let's really turn this
whole sport on its side, Like let's win or take
all live PGA and have it happen in Vegas. What
(37:14):
do you say and we'll broadcast live from there.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Lose
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about the future of the Miami Dolphins. It's not as
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a decision. Tennessee's got an idea on how to make
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Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good sound great?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Clock in?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I mean, I feel like I know someone who is uh, well,
it's gonna be interesting to see the music that is
played throughout the course of the show. I'll just I'll
leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Why is that what happened?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I mean, just talk to Lorena. I just her a
little her a little insight into things that are not
going on or I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Know, Oh, a theme, we got a theme behind the scenes. Yeah,
everything okay, So we can listen throughout all right, so
we don't we don't want to guess it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
We just want to shoin. We want to listen through and.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
Yes, yes, security guard at the chargers, I kind of
thought that's what it was.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
It wasn't sure, yep. I mean, I am totally you
had your hand in your pocket.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
I was saying, is it hand in your pocket? Whatikes?
All right, okay, I'm curious to see what the theme is.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I can't wait. I love this is going to be fun.
A nice little thread throughout the show. Courtesy of DJ Ray.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Ray Oh no, Dj Ray, We're evolving.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So we got the news yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't know this is this much of a surprise,
but the Dolphins are placing Tua talka buy loa on
I R. He will have to miss at least four games.
Now is it four games or four weeks?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
If the specifics on that, because they four weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Okay, so he'll be out for four weeks, four games whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But the move was made.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
They brought in Snoop Puntley, who we were trying to
figure out when that name changed. They've got Skyler Thompson there,
and so now this star I mean I've never heard of.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, it sounds a little bit like a point star
name though, doesn't.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
It Skyler Thompson? I mean yeah, but I know now,
I mean, thanks, you are aware of that. I saw
that in the show notes, Hey, you guys are good
at good at identifying porn names.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So so that being said, is the season on the
brink for the Dolphins?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
If two is out for these four games? And what's
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I can't figure out the TVs right now. The Alien
Coop watches zero sports on TV during the Ben Mallory Show.
But that being said, a lot of watching TV. Well,
I mean, the Dolphins is gonna be watching the playoffs
at home? There to be watching a lot of TV stretch. Yeah,
(04:09):
come on, have a little faith.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
They got enough talent.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But here's their schedule coming up at Seattle versus Tennessee
at New England by Yeah, that's not bad. They could
they can theoretically go on two and one, three and zero.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I guess if it was gonna happen, this is probably
the best part of the schedule. It could have happened.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Why can't you guys be a little more respectful of
the New England Patriots, Like.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I don't know that we know who they are, I
mean would.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Be I've been nothing but respectful of them this entire offseason.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I'm not saying that they are not going to be good.
I'm just saying that that three game stretch, granted two
of the three are on the road, it still gives
you a shot. And here's the other thing. I don't
know if it's Scalar Thompson's going to be the guy,
or Snoop or Tyler Huntley is gonna end up being
elevated into the role. I personally like Tyler Huntley. I
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think he'd probably be better for the system. And one
of the reasons why I think he's going to be
able to adapt to it faster than people think is
he's been with Stefanski and that tree actually comes from
the Mike Shanahan tree, which obviously Mike McDaniel's from, but
Stefanski was with Kubiak Kubiak who comes from Mike Shanahan
(05:23):
and all that. So the terminology should be similar even
though they don't run or doesn't look exactly the same
in Cleveland, and obviously what Miami does there is gonna
be some similarities as far as the verbiage and some
of the terminology. So I think he'll be able to
get up to speed relatively fast. And I'm sure that
was part of the thought process and bringing him in specifically.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
By the way, you want to know how bad Will
Levis and the Titans have been through two games, which,
according to our friends of DraftKings, the look ahead betting
line on the Dolphins Titans for next week, not this week,
but the week after, the Dolphins are six and a
half point favorite. The hell is that six and a
half point fit with with no Tua? That that feels
(06:09):
like a bit of a stretch. But maybe to your point,
this is if you're going to have this happen, this
is the time of year, and this is the stretch
that it can happen and save the sea.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
You know, I made the point in a show prior
after the Tua concussion that this is a bad look
for the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
This isn't just a bad.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Look if we're looking at it in terms of how
does this houses get handled by the Dolphins. This is
a this is a shield issue, and you know, you
look around and you see how many people are chiming in,
People that don't even pay attention to football are chiming
in on Tua and what he should do. This is
(06:48):
this has transcended just being a football topic, a a
Dolphins topic. This is a yeah, you do hate it
because everybody who's talking about it, they take the narrative,
they take the lane of he's got to retire, Oh
my gosh, his health for the rest of his life.
(07:11):
He what you know, then you had players doing it,
you know. I don't know if you guys saw what
Nate Burleson did, like where he got a message. He
reached out to Javit Bess who if you know who,
remember who he was. He was pretty talented running back
out of cow that got drafted to Detroit, and he
kept getting concussions and he had the same like he
(07:34):
had the same type of symptoms when he went down
and got a concussion, looked like he got knocked out,
like by a puncher in a boxing match. Like, same
type of way to a look when he got knocked out.
So I thought it was interesting that, Okay, you bring
in to play getting a message from him, You read
the message and you're talking about you know what. His
decision was based off of how he felt about the
(07:57):
quality of his health moving on in his life. And
that seems to be the overarching theme, which again probably
should be the overarching theme, is to think about your
long term health when you see you know.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
To your point, though, Like I find it interesting, like
when we see someone smoking a cigarette, how many times
we walk up to them and go, hey, keep doing that,
you're probably gonna get lung cats.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
For your long term.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, when hey, hey, buddy, you should probably put the
bottle down. That's not gonna be good for your liver, right, Like,
how often do we ever, like impart ourselves on other
people's lives with their unhealthy habits or poor decisions.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
It's got to be really bad for you going to
get cut off at a bar, like for someone to
say you've had enough, Like, it's got.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
To get really really bad at that point.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And and I'm not doing it for your long term health.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
They're doing it because liability probably their own.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, they don't want to get you.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You get what I'm saying. Like people were smoking cigarettes
and all that, it's like, oh, no, one will walk
something and says he you really should quit. You really
should stop thinking about that. And it's like it only
comes to like sports, when all of a sudden everyone
comes out and they're, oh, I have an opinion on it.
It's like that, No, you could just go back to
what you were doing before and then let the experts,
let the football people, let to his family, the doctors
(09:17):
around him, let them make a decision for him. It's
his life.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
And I think the problem and the point that I
guess I'm making right now is I think again, I
know I said the NFL needed to how are they
going to handle this?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Because they indeed have to have a hand in this.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
I do not think that they can stay out of
out of the decision making process or outside of what
it is that the Dolphins are going to do because
of the optics of how important it is the way
they handle this scenario based upon the stigmas and the
judgments of what CTE has created and concussions has created
(10:02):
in terms of the narrative of the game of football.
So to me, I think this is just as much
the NFL being a part of the conversations with the
Dolphins in terms of, hey, how are we handling this,
let's let's take let's do ir so we have some
more time to try to figure out how exactly we
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go about handling this. This is too specific of a large,
a large conversation and problem that was was super super
prevalent for a moment in time for football, for the NFL,
they had to combat concussions.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
On a standalone stage again, like the Thursday night he
suffered the one against Cincinnati. This was the Thursday night game.
So you got a lot of people who you know,
and it's not mixed. Like listen the first year he
suffered those concussions. Kenny Pickett got two concussions that year too,
like multiple concussions. It's how it looks with two weeks,
I know, but it's the look of it was. Also
(11:04):
when Kenny Pickett's happened, it was like in the midst
of like a bunch of games in the early window
on a Sunday, and so it didn't get the attention
or the coverage, but he dealt with that too.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Two was the only one that got talked about because
of the way it looks. I'm telling you, it's it's
it's a horror story.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
For I think we all understand what you're saying. It's
just at the end of the day, I mean, four
weeks we'll go by, he'll probably choose to come back
and play and then we'll move on like that. That's
what we do. Like that's the reality of all this.
And and look, I'm not trying to make a case
for against CT or anything like that, and not an expert.
(11:42):
I just feel like there was still a lot that's
that's kind of unknown in regards to our brain, how
it works, what impacts it, and and the direct correlation
with with football and all that. There's a lot of
sports that, you know, if you really do the research
and really look at it, you can attribute to you know,
women's soccer at the high school level, a lot of concussions,
a lot of head he injuries, you know, headers things
(12:03):
of that nature.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
It's the highest, it was the highest women's soccer.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So like, are we just going to start taking away
every single sport because there's this thought that it causes CT. Well,
we don't really know. And I think that's most likely
where this is all going to end. And if we're
being real, if if a doctor clears him and he
can go back to play, there's a lot of money
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that's going to be left on the table if he
chooses not to. And there's nothing wrong with that. Tu
has made enough money to be able to take care
of himself the rest of his life. It's his own decision.
But you'd be crazy not to think that he's about
twenty million. Are twenty million be left on the table.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I just think it's the coverage. We can talk about
the other sports, and we can talk about where.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Don't you think this is smart to put him on
EYR because then you have going to go away.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yes, you have to, but but the moment he comes back,
it's going to comeback.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
The conversation especially are going to.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Come back, especially the criticism the Dolphins got over the handling,
whether it was an independent neurologist or whatever. Why was
he back out there? You knew he has suffered a concussion.
Why was he back out there on a short week?
Speaker 8 (13:13):
No?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Last? Yeah there.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
I don't think it turns into like what it turned
into when that movie came out. But I've got it.
Yeah idea. By the way, I think we need more
inside information. I've got an idea. I think we I
think we send in Lee. We send in Lee to Lap.
We have him somehow, we get him to be a character.
(13:37):
Maybe it's a little early for Halloween, obviously we're soil
in September, but maybe we have him dress up and
he becomes one of the four known experts or neurologists
in this field.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
We have Lee spend the next three four weeks in
South Florida helping us get a better understanding of what's
happening with Tuam.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
He has the biggest smile on his face, grabbing the microphone.
Let's hear the intellect can you and and the i
Q of one lead to lap come out talking about.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
The place you could stay.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Let me tell you why you shouldn't scoff at that
based on some of the opinions that are thrown out, Buddy's,
Lee's has got as good a credentials as anybody.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
How you feel about this, Lee, I feel very confident
I have.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
I have a lot of experience with head trauma.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Is that mostly induced? Mostly induced by your ex girlfriends?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That is partly so, yes, more recently than you imagine.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Lee walks into the Lee walks into the building with
a briefcase, and they're like, weren't you just at the
Clevelander last night?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Listen to a different.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Guy, Lee. We got to cut your hair though, to
a normal haircut. You can have a bullet You're walking
around as.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
A neurologist, right, somebody's got a rocket man.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
No one has to You're you're you're too old for that.
And the other thing is, if you're really going to
go through with this, we need you to look the
part and to be acting the part. And I think
you're capable of it. I see you to commit to it.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I could do that. I think the mullet has come
to an end. By the way, thank you. Yeah, I
don't know, man, I thank you for rock hit on
with that.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Kenny, you have to be like Australian or something. You know,
you have to be like one of those like cool
neurologists who's like, I, mate, yeah, no, I'm a neurologist, right, yeah,
but uh I I also saif and uh I once
you know, I didn't go hit my baby that sort
of thing.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Tang.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, the guys in Pittsburgh don't look like that. They
don't have bullets. The guys in Pittsburgh you go see
for the door, Yeah, they don't know. They don't know mullets.
I was also thinking about this when it comes to
the to a discussion, like, I wonder how much of
the hesitancy from the Dolphins to pay him was about
(15:48):
this stuff, because I don't think you can argue that
he wasn't deserving of a contract based on his play.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Like he's been great under Mike McDaniel. I wonder if.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The delay was Miami's concern over stuff like this and
not even just the concussions. He's had injuries throughout the
course of his career, even going back all the way
to college. I wonder how much of that was about
all Right, we like the play, we don't like the
fact that there's been some problems both concussion wise and
(16:18):
health wise elsewhere on the body.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And maybe that's why.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
They were a little bit wary of maybe wanting to
give him the deal that he got.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And I don't know if that's.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Written your injuries.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
If you have an injury history, that's always going to
play a part, and if a team wants to sign
you to a big deal or a long term extension
or whatever it may be. Yeah, that's why injury only
guarantees injury only there you go, because.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Then it allows them the power to be able to
have a doctor say nope, I think you can go
back in and play, you know, I mean, that's that's
the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Jeez.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Well, but a factor which he may get a doctor
that says he can't, which means that he's going to
get injury money.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
They would probably settle though in that case, like I don't.
I think if they had conflicting opinions, they would most likely,
you know, have to settle somewhere if if he chose
not to play anymore, because because that's really what's a stake.
If he chooses to come back and play, then it
it's the same do.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I would be shocked if he doesn't come back
and play.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
He's coming back. He's coming back.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, He's a warrior man like that. That's the one
thing I'd say about all his career. Okay, but he's
a warrior. Do you remember when he had the hip injury,
Like he came back too soon with a tightrope surgery
to play Burrow, Like he literally was limping around in
(17:46):
that game. And I remember talking to Tom Rinaldi about
this at the time, because I believe he might have
been actually working on that game. But he said he'd
suffered a concussion as well. That's what a lot of
people don't understand, is that injury. Well, you know, everyone
focused on the hip injury, you know, because he was
coming back from the tyrope, wasn't moving very well. He
(18:06):
suffers the hip injury They're like, no, no, no, Remember there's
blood on his nose everything else. He had a concussion
that play too, so there was I mean he's been
through a lot throughout the course of his career, dating
back to Alabama, and he always comes back. Man, he
is a warrior. No one can dispute that.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Yeah, he's a.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Hell of a player.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Saint Louis High, you know, representing our friends listening on
Fox Sports A nine ninety right now, you know, at drop,
I just you know, letting him know.
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I think is it two hours behind now or the
one nineteen five?
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Isn't it maybe five hour flight? Two hours? Maybe? Yeah?
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Three, I don't know, twelve night night or something. Whatever
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That's two pros and a couple.
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Of midnight somewhere. I'll say that.
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Speaker 1 (21:41):
Here coming up in about fifteen minutes from now, we're
going to tell you about something that got kind of
buried during Monday Night Football. Apparently this was a problem
for people involved in the game. We will get into
that for you again fifteen minutes from now. Speaking of problems,
apparently the week one to Week two performance of Monday
(22:02):
Night Football with the Manning cast and the simulcast on ABC,
apparently the numbers took a little bit of a dip.
The Manning cast on ESPN two, reported by Mike Florio,
pro Football Talk rebounded from a low of eight hundred
and seventy two thousand viewers. They did one point three
to four million this past Monday night, and with the
(22:26):
ABC simulcast not being a part of the broadcast, the
total audience fell from twenty point five million to fifteen
million in week one for week two. So it feels like,
and I know the strategy for ESPN, like, hey, you know,
why let the Manning cast go elsewhere? And if we're
(22:46):
going to take a hit from the regular broadcast, at
least we're going to keep it in the house and
keep it in house. I just wonder how many people
have been spoiled by those two guys and are now
looking at this going why would I go watch the
regulardcast when I can get insight like guys from Matt Ryan,
Bill Belichick, et cetera, and I can get a different
view of the game. I personally would rather watch Troy
(23:08):
Aikman and Joe Buck. I hardly watched the Manning cast,
but apparently people are choosing that avenue to take when it.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Comes to I watched this past week and only because
of the guests that I was curious to see what
they were going to say, I also think the interesting
thing is, you know, Matt Ryan goes on as a
member of CBS, which is interesting only because typically networks
don't want you do that. So it was a bit
(23:35):
odd that that was all able to work out. And maybe,
like you can't say the CBS doesn't view ESPN ABC
as a competitor, because they are, but for whatever reason
they let that one go. Maybe it's more about, you know,
drawing attention to Matt Ryan this year being a part
of the CBS coverage. I'm not sure sure which, but
some great conversations, in particular down the stretch where you know,
(23:57):
Matt Ryan paidon Manninger saying hey, don't throw, don't throw.
You know, Matt Ryan obviously was a part of a
game the Super Bowl where they did throw on a
third down. It did it did stop the clock. So
there was all these kind of you know, backstories that
played a role in that. At the end of the day,
I Jalen Hurts completes it to Saquon Barkley and he
even catches it. We're not even having this conversation, which
(24:19):
is one of the reasons why as much as I
appreciate the analysis, I've also told you guys before, there's
a term called resulting, and that's where you just look
at purely the result of something and say was it
a good decision or bad decision based on result, which
anyone can do right, any Joe Blow on Twitter or
x or somewhere else can do that. The point is
you're supposed to point out, well, why do we run
(24:40):
the play? The box was stacked, We actually had to
look for it, and when we saw the play ran
and actually was the perfect play for it. You know,
Saguon Barkley not only catches that and gets the first down,
he might just score a touchdown. So in the end,
it's not so much about what was that the right
play call? Of course it was. They just didn't execute.
So it could have been a run play. If they
would have fumbled the ball on the run play with
(25:00):
Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan be saying, oh see, they
shouldn't have run it, No, they would have said, well,
it was the right call they used to't execute. So anyway,
not to get off on that tangent, what's interesting is this,
this show was always going to cannibalize a little bit
of the ratings for Monday Night Football, and it's interesting
that ESPN would want to do something like this to
(25:20):
showcase it. I mean, I know it's good for the NFL,
but you know, at the end of the day, it's
a completely different show if anyone watches it. So it's
surprising to me that you would want to invest so
much in Troyan and Joe Buck and then turn around
and invest more into Peyton Manning and Eli Manning and
doing the Manning cast and then take a hit on
one side of the numbers and then try to build
(25:42):
this other audience. Well, it's kind of the same audience.
It's the same people who want to watch Monday Night football,
maybe with a little more x's and o's and insight
to it. And I think if you go and look
at you know what they did this most recent Monday Night,
it felt like it was more of a podcast with
Jason Kelcey than anything else. So I'm not sure if
that turned people off and maybe that had a little
(26:03):
bit to do with the ratings being down, or if
this is purely a byproduct of ABC not being a
part of it and ESPN not being able to lump
in all those numbers. Now that the entire Direct TV
dispute's all done with.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I in seeing how it's turned out for Troy Aikman
and Joe Buck there, Like, you can't argue that it
doesn't sound better, Like the presentation is better with those
two guys there.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
And it's not to take a shot at anybody that
was doing the games.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Before, but Lewis Riddick and Riddick and who else.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It was Riddick it was?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Was it Steve Levy I think was on the call
at one point. It was bad for a while and
it just but it does like those two guys. You
hear the three man booth at one point, Yeah, and
they had you know, Booger McFarlane was on some foe.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
You know, like doing.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But when you do hear those guys, there is a
big game feel that Troy Aikman and Joe Buck bring
in my mind, just based on all the big games
they called for Fox. So that definitely has helped the
presentation and the product for me. But yeah, man, Jason
Kelce just like he was in there for so long
and it felt like all right, well this will be
(27:15):
it and then he'll move on and they'll but they
would come back and he was still there and still
there and still there. So maybe that is an aspect
of it to where people were like, dude, there's two
teams in this game, like, you know, are me, are
you going to bring in an Atlanta Falcon? You're going
to bring in somebody from their side? Or is this
going to all be about let's show off, you know,
our high priced free agent that we brought in to
(27:37):
be a part of the broadcast pregame and then continue
to cater to that audience and you know, whether that's
Taylor Swift or whether that's the podcast they have. I
do wonder if part of that was the turnoff there
and maybe people just didn't want to deal with it.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Well that maybe people that just want to watch football
want to watch football. Yeah, maybe that's part of it too.
I mean, even if you were a Swifty or what
and you got introduced to the game because of the
relationship between Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift, there might be
elements of it where like, you want to watch football too,
Like that's what actually attracted you to it. It's not
(28:12):
whatever the hell you were doing before and whatever you
were watching before. It's unique, it's different, and it kind
of gives you, Like many people out there who watch sports,
it gives you some sort of relief from everything else
that's going on in the world. Maybe that was what
some of it was about.
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Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
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something a player did during that game.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
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Two Pros and a Cup but Joe.
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Speaker 5 (29:54):
Lap Good more than everybody.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Good morning Jonas, Good morning LaVar, Good morning Brady.
Speaker 9 (30:00):
Hey guys, In case you missed this, I think we
all remember Drake London getting penalized after his go ahead
touchdown Monday night on Monday Night Football, after what looked
like him spraying fake bullets into the crowd. Well, his
coach Raheem Morris came to his defense a lot yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Hey, LeVar, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Atlanta Falcon's head coach Raheem Morris came to his defense
yesterday in a press conference and gave a much more
subtle explanation for that touchdown celebration.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know, I guess it was it was the use
of a weapon. How people interpreted that as a fine,
as a as a penalty, And you know, Drake is
you know, Drake is a great kid, and his intent
was not as a use of a weapon. He probably
was shooting T shirts into the stands to be honest
with you though, because he's just that kind of a guy.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But come on, man, the old T shirt cannon celebration,
he was shooting.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Ah, well, so what so wide?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Okay, listen, he represents the eight oh five More Park, California.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You can do whatever the hell he wants.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
Sports Man guys do the arrow shot all the time
and they don't get penn a last for it.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's what I was saying.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah, I mean, it's who cares. It's just it's you know,
you're celebrating.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, who is the guy for the Bengals?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
If you pulled out a real he pulled out a
real strap. That's different, Like you pull out a real star.
I don't care if it's a water guy. You pull
out a prop Now, that's different.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, this was the last boy scout, but he got up.
I can understand the argument.
Speaker 9 (31:25):
Remember any given Sunday they have the best celebrations with
the the football grenade and everything like.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That, Like I do, like Rahie Morris trying to sell
us on it was a T shirt cannon. Yeah, okay,
it's sure thing, man, no reason to go there.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Sure thing.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
What else?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
We got guys in college football?
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Marshal's gonna be taking on Ohio State this weekend, and
Marshall's head coach Charles Huff had some interesting uh yes,
I had some interesting uh potential offers n il offers
for any Ohio State transfers coming up.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Take a listen to Charles Huff.
Speaker 11 (32:02):
I'd love to have some of those guys from Ohio
State too, So if they want to transfer on down,
We've got a tutor. Yea Tutor's biscuit. Nil all you
can eat. So if any of those guys that run
really really fast at Ohio State like tutors biscuits, I
promise you all you can eat all day if you transfer.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Here Tutor's biscuits.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
And I know he's speaking tongue in cheek, but in
a way. This is tampering, and this is in all
reality what's going on behind the scenes with some schools
some places. Now not this way, not Ohio State to Marshall,
but more like Marshall's best Players to Ohio State or
et cetera. This is what's going on by the scenes.
(32:48):
So it's funny to laugh at. But unfortunately rosters you know,
of these group of five teams or a Sunbelt team
like Marshall, have been impacted by stuff like this. Not
necessarily this deal.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Though, Tutor's Biscuit World got a shout out though, good
for that.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
They've got to be a big sponsor. If he's going
to shout them out like.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That, have to be. Yeah, how do you guys feel
about biscuits?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
By the way, too fattening for me, a little dry.
It means you having a good biscuit jelly and honey.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Jail.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Oh yeah, oh jam jamm.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Biscuit jam for me.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Now hey, hey, for real, doubt some jam or some
honey and some butter. If it's hot, I'm cool with it.
If it's if it's smothered in like sausage gravy, But
to me, that's my fat boy.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So biscuits are so good. I don't know how you
cannot do it.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
I can't do it too many calories.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
They're dry because you don't make them right A little.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
I don't make them at all, okay, but a little dry.
I mean, we all could use some biscuits in our life,
if you know what I mean. Yeah, I guess it's
from eating all them biscuits. Come on, man, let's get
(34:08):
Chris on the porch.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
Man.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
They're about to start trick.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
What else?
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Guys?
Speaker 9 (34:17):
We were about two months away from Mike Tyson versus
Jake Paul, but Mike Tyson recently spoke with Josh Peter
at USA Today's Sports.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
It's hard to walk right now? Yeah, I saw you
had a Stick City jersey on in Dallas, right really?
And when he when he went to midfield and met
up with Jake Paul, You know Mike.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Tyson did, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
He had on a Micah jersey.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Pretty cool Micah to make the number famous. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
He was a Phil Simms guy.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Yeah, go ahead, go finish, finish.
Speaker 9 (34:46):
Mike Tyson did say it's hard to walk right now,
but two months from now, I'm going to be perfect dang,
this is such.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
A horrible idea. It really is, like, what are we
doing here?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Here?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Aren't even gonna make it to the fight.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's sixty years old, and they're they're you know, you know,
they're using big gloves, and they're you know, it's just
two minute rounds and it's eight two minute rounds.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But like, come on, man, and here's the problem. I'm
gonna watch.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
And they will get my money and I will gladly
handle it because I just want to see Mike Tyson
fight again. But it's not gonna look at anything like
the Mike Tyson we're used to. Although Britney Griner apparently
wants to throw down based on what happened in WNBA
last night, I was not aware of that until it
popped up.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
You see that, Oh, could you update be on the WNBA.
I wasn't watching last night exactly TV.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Britney Grinder wanting to throw down at a at a
Sparks game.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
What else we got, leading guys, In case you missed this,
PGA tour players and live golf players are at a
crossroads in terms of an agreed upon merger, which has
been at a standstill for much of the year. According
to a report from Bloomberg, Talks inch closer towards the
finish last week, but money seems to be the hold up,
as some PGA players want Jon Roum and others to
hand back money they've made from live Other options include
(36:02):
paying fines to participate in events, giving to charity, or
agreeing to forfeit any future career winnings on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
What why would I have to give back money?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Well, I mean, I'm not so sure about giving back money,
but like buying back into the PGA Tour might make
some sense if you're if you're a PGA Tour player
and you're upset about the fact that they basically left
for money, and now you're trying to set like the
precedent and of like, all right, if anyone else wants
to do this, here you go. The truth is, I'm
(36:31):
not sure that you're going to penalize them for winning
future earnings, Like if they win, they win, like like
let them have their reward for that. But if there's
a buy back, you know, or a buy in to
get back in the PGA Tour, I could see that
that might make some sense. But this whole thing, man
it's it's drug gone way too long. These two sides
(36:52):
need to come together.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
And you know these lame golf competitions they do in
Vegas where they take two football players against two football players,
Like why don't they just do live versus PGA, win
or take all, Like let's like, let's really turn this
whole sport on its side, Like let's win or take
all live PGA and have it happen in Vegas. What
(37:14):
do you say and we'll broadcast live from there.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Lose
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