December 13, 2024 • 39 mins
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and the Rams eek out an ugly win vs the Niners who have players quitting mid-game. Bill Belichick speaks for the first time since taking over at UNC. Plus, a coach’s ‘hot wife’ and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Football Friday, we are going to talk
about Thursday night football because we've got storylines. Well, let's
be honest here, the game wasn't very good, but the
storyline in San Francisco afterwards is and could it be
the end of an era for the forty nine ers
we will discuss. We're also going to be talking about
(00:21):
the beginning of an era of North Carolina football with
Bill Belichick what it means moving forward. We're going to
have another conversation, well, you know, one that a lot
of people are afraid to touch, about a guy by
the name of Colby Covington who decided, do you know what,
I'm going to take aim and fire at Lebron James
and chaos ensued because that's what his nickname is. We're
also going to have another conversation about Albert Brears whereabouts
(00:45):
during the Ohio State game, what went on, how many
layers were worn, how much he might have had to drink.
He'll stop by an hour three of the program. We've
got another edition of In case you missed it. We've
got our picks against the Spreaday, we've also got Lee's leftovers.
It's all yours coming up next. Here, pros and a
cup of Joe on a football Friday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Give this.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
So did you know that Brady? I did not. Hey,
Jonas is a pocket pervert. Well yeah, I knew that.
There you go. See we're all in agreement. I'm still
trying to figure out the weather. Oh wowwall corner pocket
makes me smile. I'll tell you that. Jesus.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Sometimes I just you know, set up a table and
you know, see what the weather looks like.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
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Speaker 1 (01:56):
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a chance to sing on Brady Quinn like doude go
kick a rock with knows you want, like, make sure
(02:40):
you break off that big toeteenaw and the second digit
toeenaw and and enjoy your day. Yeah, okay, what happened?
Oh I'm just you know, you know, sometimes I make time.
Now I didn't make time and respond, but Q responding.
I thought the response was very funny. I thought it
was very witty. We're not giving out, you know, financial
(03:03):
advice on this show, but when we're if we were to,
at one point we did for what's his name? Your
your bestie? What's his name? What's his name? For that
that company? We did it for a little bit. He
wrote a book, he does a lot of things. What's
his name? You don't want to say his name, You
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don't want to give him no props? You love him.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Listen, look, I've got a Brady for financial advice. Was
this stuff like a quadruple Masters in business from uh,
you know, like Dublin.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
And he's still in school to do it, Like like
Brady's in so much school over finance that he's going
to actually get to write a course that is the
Brady Quinn Course. Brady for what. No, he attacked us.
You know, we do the Blue Chuo pill reads and
stuff like that. You're like, I think it's beneath you
guys to do uh you know, Boner to do no
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Boner reads. I don't understand. I mean, that's how the
business works. That we're being honest. I mean, if you
look at our demo and who we're going after and
who listens to us, they actually probably could benefit from Bluetoo.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yeah you might not, you know if you're listening and
complaining about it, but someone might so you know, yeah,
I would be.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I would have to say to you, buddy, if you're
listening right now exactly jonus, don't don't don't be so
selfish man, you know, because there will come a time
where you sat there and you thought, Man, I never
would have thought today would have been that day that
I thought about using it, you know what I mean.
And it may come. It just might come.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm just telling you, Yeah, it might yeah, so you
don't want to be no Diddy, no diddy on that one.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
That I put that one together and for what it's makers,
and I say that's it at that time may come.
But anyway, the point is that you you may need
a climactical ending. Unlike last night's Thursday night game that
we watched. Well, I mean you that game needed a
blue cheo. You know what.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm a big fan of low scoring football game, are you. Yeah,
you know, especially a guy.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It still didn't. I still had no love for that game.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
When Mother Nature's like, oh you guys were playing a
football game tonight, kiss my ass. This is what you'll get.
You'll get a field goal fest between the Rams and
the Niners. So yeah, not the most entertaining game of
the world.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
But Cooper Cup was on a milk box. Huh three targets,
zero catches, zero y'all. Yeah, they said fantasy football. Fantasy
football people were freaking melting down on social media.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I mean, if you were in the playoffs, costed you.
I didn't get that far.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I'm starting Cooper Cup tonight. It was so with Butler's here.
Too much going on in the world of sports, but
not enough scoring last night.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Not enough sports on TV.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And you got Pretty Woman and Ben affleck O d
on drugs, Lorena and Coop are weird, man like, it's weird.
Pretty Woman is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I mean, okay, so what do we like so much
about Pretty Woman? I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Julia Roberts she's a hooker with.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I was gonna say, it's uh, I mean she plays
a hooker in that one.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
So Richard Gear is playing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
She has a heart of gold.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Hey man, Richard Gear on the Sneak is kind of
like your boy Douglas on the Sneak. He has that
like real sly, fox like look that he has with
women in the movie that he plays.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
What's the difference?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Though, pets are allowed Gerbils, hamsters, what guinea pigs?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Which one listen, Little Hide and Go Seek never hurt anybody.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
But his looks aren't as intense as Michael Douglas's though,
and the action isn't as intense either, But the approach
seems to be kind of close to the same. So
there you go, and I can guarantee you those two
could use blue cheo. That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Maybe a couple now do you think maybe uh Devandre
Campbell of the Niners could use some help at this
point in time. Kind of an interesting situation popped up
during the game last night that featured a bunch of
field goals in which Devondre Campbell of the Niners decided, eh,
not into it, and uh Kyle Shanahan, the head coach
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of the forty nine ers, was asked about it afterwards.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Happened with Defondre Campbell.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
He didn't play and he went into the locker room
at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, he didn't said he didn't want to play to day,
during the game or before I was in third.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Quarter, Devandre opted into not going to the game. What
do you need to do to ensure that you don't
lose the rest of the locker room. I haven't lost anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's somebody doesn't want to play football.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean, I think our team and myself, we know
Awaly feel about that. So I don't think we need
to talk about him anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So, I mean that could be a little bit detached
from reality. We haven't lost anyone. There's only so many
guys on the roster, and if one of them happened
to say I don't want to go into the game, which,
by the way, this is like the second time in
so many weeks that we've had a guy that opted
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out of going into the game. I mean, it is
Bowl season. Is it that time of the year where
now it's transitioning into the National Football League game? Oh,
I'm just gonna opt out of this game.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You don't want to play in the levice.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
This is like, you know, this is like a bowl
game that I don't want to play in, So I'm
gonna just go ahead and take it on in. I mean,
but seriously speaking, that is losing a player. You did lose.
Anyone is someone if they're on your roster because you
guys chose to put that man on your roster. He
was not only on your roster, but he was an
active man on your roster, which is a very very
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very low percentage of people in the world that had
that job. And he went to the locker room. So
you can't say you don't want to lose or I
don't I haven't lost anyone. Our roster is good and
they want to play football, like he didn't want to
play football.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
They had two linebackers go out in the game last night.
They needed him to go back in, and he said no,
and then he had Charvarius Ward who ripped him. Afterwards.
George Kittle also had this to say about his decision
out to go back in.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
That is one person who just decided not to play
for his teammates. And no, I don't think that that
doesn't like does make our office so should be like wow, man, No,
we're falling apart. It's more of a or like the
defense he we're falling apart. It's more of a one
person making a like Mooney said, it a selfish fit decision.
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And I'm with Mooney on that, and I I've never
been around anybody that's ever done that, and I hope
I'm never run anybody that does that again.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
So I agree, I agree with Kittle. But that's the
reality of it is is now you can't say never.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
That's that's that's one right there. That's one perspective right there.
I mean, here's the here's the reality is. I have
no idea if Devondre Campbell is going through something mentally.
Who was the player who quit at halftime in Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Wasn't that Vonte Davis.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Or that was his brother who I think passed away recently.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
That was that's who passed away. Yeah, he's the one
who did it and even retired, didn't he walked down
right like I'm done.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Like when he was done, he was done.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I'm done, And I'm not only done with this game,
I'm done with this profession. I'm done, right Yeah. And
I don't know Vernon Davis.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
The specifics, the circumstances.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Any of it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Like, I don't know if any of it is mental
health related. It could be like I'm done, I'm done
with the game. Not doing this, I have no idea.
So I don't really want to pass judgment, although I mean,
from the jump it does sound like an awful thing
to do to your teammates, an awful thing to do
to everyone else involved. But so it needs more clarification
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from him, specifically as to why exactly you just chose
to quit on your team. You know a lot of
guys are battling through different injuries, things like that they're
playing through. I don't know if that even played a factor.
Doesn't sound like it. So it's tough for me to
sit here and and try to make a case for it.
But I always kind of I caution people sometimes because
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sometimes there's a greater issue at hand and it hasn't
been diagnosed, it hasn't been addressed, hasn't been discussed. So
I'm a little bit concerned because it just seems so abnormal.
Maybe not for him, Like I've never played with the dude.
I've been in locker room with him, and maybe this
is something he does, but man, it's just such a
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bad look and I can't imagine. I just I can't
imagine that he's gonna get signed again. You quit on
your team, and he doesn't have a job today. By
the way, y'all, he doesn't have a job. You can
guarantee if you look at it, it's a death sentence
for your career if you do something like this and
there's not some reason behind it.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now, I mean, maybe he looked at Deontay Johnson and
said to himself, you know what, I like the way
that looked to me. And if they treat me the
same exact way, I'm going to do the same exact thing,
and I'm going to improve my point. Some people have
weird and interesting ways of trying to be creative and
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proving what they feel their points should be and while
I'll look agree with you on saying, listen, I don't
know what that young man is dealing with and what
maybe was the framework and the motivation that went into
his frame of thought. But I will, however, say this,
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of the all of the studying and all of the
information that has gathered and choosing people to be a
part of your team and a part of your roster,
it's such an extensive and an exhausting thing for certain
people to do, your scouting department and your g and
we just talked about it yesterday with Lombardi being hired
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for you, and see with Bill Belichick how important it
is to be able to evaluate the talent that you're
going to bring in for your team. At some point,
your studies should have revealed that there are things connected
to the way this young man handles things, or the
way that he may think or feel or whatever it
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may be, and you got to take an educated, you know,
assessment or make an educated decision on if you want
to bring that type of personality into your locker room,
because it can be a cancer to the rest of
your team. Now, he's not a significant enough figure for
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that to be the case, but what if it was
what if the name is different, what if it's an
Antonio Brown? You know what I mean. I'm not only
going to leave and not go back in because of
how I feel about the scenario, but I'm a d
robe and I'm going to make a spectacle of the
situation for this team, for this game and for myself
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on my way out. You know, these are things that
you have to weigh out. You gotta think about, and
that's a part of sport. It's one of the interesting
aspects of the job. But you have to measure out
and weigh out what the emotional, mental stability and capacity
of what the talent is that you're looking at and
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you're evaluating for your team. So I'll agree with Kyle Shanahan.
I don't think this was a scenario where you have
to be you know, I guess disturbed or aware of
if you're losing, concerned if you're losing your locker room.
But you can't just say anyone because you guys chose
to have him on your roster. So he's someone He's
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just someone that now just became anyone based off of
the decision that he chose to make and representation of
his self in that moment.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, but is that a reflection on them choosing the
wrong guy or the guy choosing the wrong time to
go in for himself.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I mean, I gotta be accountable for the decisions that
you make. So if that man made that decision and
that became public knowledge, that's still a reflection of their
decision of making.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I think it's I think it's one guy who went
rogue and decided I don't want to be a part
of this anymore, and you still have to take terrible
spot if you wanted, Yeah, just go rogue.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
He went rogue right now? No, I mean he's probably
doing something to help the show.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
To LaPray Campbell.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I mean, but d Cooper is though. But there you go.
He went rogue. There you go, there you go. I mean,
what what perfect timing for you to even say? It
couldn't the commercial? I couldn't even wait.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
What's what's interesting is if you look at the season
for the Niners, maybe that's why you didn't go in though,
because if you had to alleviate himself, you know, you
if you if he had to go.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
To the bathroom, saying if he had to go to
the bathroom like Lee, maybe that was why he didn't
want to go back into the game.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, we sound such a good run.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I mean, imagine that. Imagine that's the moment you said it,
irony of the moment you saying it, and we look
in there and he literally went rogue to the restroom.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Well, yeah, that's what he does, taking a regular We're
getting back to the conversation and off Lee. The bigger
issue is for the forty nine ers. It's not looking
good this season and they haven't had a subdouble digit
win season in which they've gone to at least the
NFC Championship Game, if not the Super Bowl since twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
So think about that.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Prior to this year, four out of the last five years,
all they've known is at least an NFC Championship game,
if not a super Bowl. And yeah there was that
you know, six and ten year back in twenty twenty,
But this, I don't know, does it feel like that year.
Does it feel like a team that's just kind of
battled through a bunch of injuries. It feels different in
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my my because they have to make so many business
decisions and I don't know how they keep it all together.
Like their window was open from twenty nineteen to twenty
twenty three, and those were their opportunities to go win
a Super Bowl, and unfortunately they ran into the Chiefs
twice and they couldn't get past the Rams, and they
couldn't get past the Eagles. Like that probably is how
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we're going to remember this team.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, their championship windows got a sorry wear clothes sign
on the outside.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
That's a wrap.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And Trent Williams is getting older, the injuries are piling up,
the brock Purty stuff is out there. It just everything
about this year just felt like this wasn't headed in
the right direction. You had a guy get shot in
the middle of the street in broad daylight before the year,
like right then and there, I was like, okay, so
this is where we're at. The Deebo Samuel stuff, which,
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by the way, him dropping that pass, which probably would
have been a tit of bound yeah ran after all
the noise and conversation he had this year. It just
feels like they're up against it. They're one and four
in the division now Seattle and the Rams feel like
they're kind of pulling away from everybody else there. I
just I don't see it. I think it's I think
that's pretty much it for them.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
It's just amazing to be at a point in time
where someone who has had so much success and has
been louded in praise for how well they have done,
and praise for how unique and how creative and bright
a mind as one of the young coaches in this
league has been in Kyle Shanahan, that the questions would
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actually start to surface as to if there may if
his time may have run its run its course. You know,
you have to ask there was the question asked of
their GM if if there was actually the possibility if
they would retain their coach. That's that's damning if you
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ask me that. If you want to understand the level
and the magnitude of what one season of a lack
of success, what that looks like, you have to have
the conversation as to dusk, is it time for Shanahan
to move on? Is it time to move on from Shanahan?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Those florio kind of stirring the pods.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, but I mean and stirring the pot There could
be some legitimacy in the stirring. I mean, they are
not They are under their sub five hundred team right now,
and they are not competitive. In fact, they are the
worst team in their division right now. And that's that's
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a far that's a very very far drop from where
they were not not too long ago, a year ago.
It's a far drop, man. And and you have to
ask yourself why is that. I mean, they've overcome injuries before.
This just does not look like a team that is
going in the right direction, even with all of the
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adverse situations that they have have had to endure.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, I got to feel that we're going in the
right direction today because I've got a big announcement for
you guys.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Here.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oh wow, okay, it's a football front, all right, yeah, yeah,
come on. Yeah, he's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah all right, yeah, not here, please not here.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
He's spiking boom, spiking, spiking poop. Yeah, spike you poop. Yeah,
he's back. He's got something trail. He got a steaky trail.
He got sneaky trail. He got the steaky trail. All right,
(21:53):
right now, let's do it. Let's do it for Eddie
g This one's for you, Eddie Friday.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It is a ball Friday.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Damn football Friday. Go for the backing the nerds, spike
the turns, Football Friday, Spike the Turns, Spike the turn
It is tough.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
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in case you missed it later this hour, we do
have our Picks against the Spread. Hour two of the program.
Albert Breer is going to stop by. He's got to
answer some questions about his alma mater, and we'll close
up shop with Lee's leftovers. All of it is yours
here on this three hour extravaganza. Coming up next here though,
interesting little tidbit that could lead to the potential of
(22:38):
a return to the NFL. We'll get into that for
you right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
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Speaker 4 (23:05):
Youre boy man, we are going is it back that's
your man. Yeah, it leads back. I mean it is
feeling good too. There you go. Last feels lighter, feels better.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I couldn't wait for the commercial break at least.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
No. Yeah, why do you say no like that lead?
I mean because when night calls, it calls, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Coops in my seat anyway, so might as well.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
So yeah, Coop does.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Take a little while.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And the last thing I need is him holding it in.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Wait, why is that makes it worse?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, it starts leaking out.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Wow, there we go. I mean it's just bad. I mean,
he's not a sewage pipe, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'll argue over that and fix my sewage pipe. Not
my sewage pipe, but my sewage pipe.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I would suggest, if you're getting up there in age,
and and that up there in age is getting a
little lower by the year, make sure you go get
your sewage pipe checked out. Make sure you're good man.
That's right. That might make it on the best of
There you go, while we're on while we're on it,
just make sure you go get yourself checked. Don't be
too good to go, get you know, the pipe checked out.
(24:32):
There you go, and I'm being did serious man, go
get that thing checked out, because save your life. Hey,
let's talk about older age. By the way, final call.
Are we staying on? Are we staying on? That's a
transition right there. Well done. I'm sure he goes and
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gets his just.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Like he told a room full hall of famers. You
can catch all of those transitions on the up on
Game Network.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I didn't tell anybody anything. I was just live streaming,
that's all. Don't do that. Don't be passive aggressive.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That's ten dollars, ten dollars. Yeah, I didn't do that.
That was not me, all right. So Belichick, Bill Belichick
Man Matt Sign. Bill Belichick was introduced yesterday at Chapel
Hill new head coach at North Carolina and spoke about
his decisioning and also what the future could look like
(25:24):
for the Tariels.
Speaker 8 (25:25):
I always wanted a coach in football, coaching college football.
It just never really worked out. Some good years in
the NFL, so that was okay. This is really kind
of a dream come true. I grew up in college
football with my dad, and so it's great to come
back home to Carolina, you know, back in an environment
that I really grew up in. There'll certainly be a
strong presence of NFL people on the staff. I think
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that's a certainty, and not only in the staff and
in the training area. But at the same time, I'm
looking for the best people we can get for Carolina,
and that fit, I think is a little different than
what an NFL team would have.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
But we'll see in your legacy, say I keep coaching.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Well, beat's working. You know, when you love what you do,
And my dad told me this, when you love what
you do, it's not work, it's really it's I love
what I do.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I love coaching.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
But what do you say to people that fear that
if you do succeed here that you might leave for
the NFL again in a year or two.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah, I didn't come here to leave. Yeah, go ahead
and clap it up. Oh yeah, it's called respect. Man.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Well, did you see these stipulations in his contract?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
What his buyout is? Yeah, you sent it to us, right,
is that your Basically.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
By the summer of next year, it goes from like
a ten million.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Dollars buyout, it's like one million dollars. Man. That's basically saying, listen,
please hire me. I'm wanted a job. It's more like
he's going to take it. Now they get to the
spring and be like, give me something more.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Yeah, maybe this isn't what I thought, you know, like,
I I'm not sure. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not
sure really what the point of structuring this deal like
that is for only because unless it was misreported, it
really doesn't benefit him or the school, you know, like
you'd think that it would at least.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Go through the first year.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
But either way, if he's not gonna leave, he's not
gonna leave. He's got three years of guarantees in this contract.
We haven't seen all the details, so we don't know
exactly the specifics. But let's just say he's gonna be
there three years. What you'd bet on is that he's
gonna be there for three years lay the foundation of
what this program is going to look like at UNC,
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and his son's going to take over from all reports.
That was part of the reason why he made this decision.
His son, Steve Belichick, who was coaching at Washington under
Jedfish as their defensive coordinator, will now I assume, be
their defensive coordinator and their head coaching waiting. That's most
likely the plan, and there's nothing wrong with that if
you could do it right. I mean, I mean some
people are gonna be upset by it. I know Stuart
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Mandel wrote this skating column about why it's not going
to work, and you know why. You know, these college
schools and universities they go after NFL coaches and it
never works, all right, Which, look, Stewart didn't admit the
fact that you know, they basically if there was ever
a time that it would work, this probably would be
that time.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
And that's what I would argue.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Although the miscalculation is if you look at what they've
talked about Michael Lombardi's talked about as his general manager
there at UNC, how they're going to build through the
transfer portal, and you go look at Dion's success from
year one to year two. One of the biggest things
Dion talked about from year one to year two was
the changes on his staff. He went from thinking he
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needed to have college coaches at the college level and
instead brought in more NFL mindset NFL coaches on his
in his second year as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
So it's actually the opposite.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Of what Stuart has about in this sense that like
Dion's example, of what he's built is more of an.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
NFL style program at Colorado.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
And if that's what Bill Belichick's trying to do, If
that's what if you look at all of the great
coaches who've won national championships send guys in the NFL,
they're building in a similar fashion, or they have built
in a similar fashion. They have a gigantic scouting departments
for high school transfer portal, you know, all these all
these different levels of recruitment, just like you kind of
(29:30):
do if you're in an NFL franchise. So I'll say again,
the age thing is the one thing that you say, Okay, well,
just how long does he want to do it? I
would imaginef you're Bubba Cunningham, by the way, their athletic
director at UNC, if he's signed up to bring in
Bill Belichick, he knows what he's signing up for. And
I don't think this is something that happened over the
(29:51):
past seventy two hours. The past week. You know, there
was reports that he wanted to fire mac Brown or
won to mac Brown to step down during the season.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
It didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Then it got to a certain point where he had
to make the decision and if that was happening, I
don't think it's too far fetched to think that Bubba
Contingham wasn't putting out feelers and maybe poked around with
someone like Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Hey, Bill, you're out right now working in the media.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Would you be interested in you?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
And see?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Okay, I mean there's a three hundred page report that
Bill Belichick gave you and see as to how he
was going to build this up and all that's come
to their agreement. Do you think that happened overnight? I mean,
he's been preparing for this moment, so I think all
of this has probably been going on for a lot
longer than we realized behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I look at Bill Belichick and the first thing I
think about off the bat is he's way too competitive,
just like I made the comparison of Tom Brady going
into the booth, way too competitive to not succeed at
what it is that he's doing. And while we may
say this is a different level that he's going to,
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it's still the same sport. It's still the same game.
So it's not even the same type of adjustment. And
speaking of what he and what Tom have done going
into media and being in the booth. He's not going
there to lose. He's not going there just to get
a cash grab. And I think that might be part
of the reason why, you know, go ahead and make
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my buyout a low buyout, because by the time we
get to the end of year one, there's not going
to be the discussion of any buyouts. It's going to
be holy crap. Look at what Bill Belichick did at
you and see that's what I believe he's thinking, you know,
and then and then let me make this point. The
other point is, and it was in sound as well,
(31:46):
was him talking about because everybody keeps talking about how
will Bill Belichick recruit, how will he be attractive to
the recruits? And he made a very very strong mention
of guys that he's coached, including Tom Brady, talked about
his draft pick number and how late he was taken,
(32:09):
and that named other players that did not come right
in immediately and be positive contributors and big time players
and the greatest players of all time right out the gate,
that it took time to develop them. If you're getting
a glowing endorsement from the horse's mouth themselves, that development
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is going to be the key approach to what it
is that he's doing. He has now already put himself
hidden shoulders above probably ninety eight point percent of the
coaches that are in the college game right now by saying,
we are going to take the focus and put it
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on developing the players that come to our program. I
think already right now he's established the fact that he
understands what he needs to do at the college level.
He's using the lingo that would match what you're supposed
to say as a college coach. I think that Bill
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Belichick has ultimately thought it through and has really really
has really really come to terms with I can do it.
And therefore, if they give me every single thing I
want where I can run this program and beyond and
(33:33):
beyond with what I'm doing, I'm going to come here
and I'm going to do it, and I might just
finish out my coaching career at this school. I don't
think that's far fetched to think at all.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well, but it's also probably the right approach. Like Stuart Mandelan,
some of these people that are like, well, it's not
going to work, this will never work. His approach will
never work in college. Dude, how do you know, how
do you know, and first of all, Deon Sanders has
been great for college football, and there were a lot
of people that were rooting for their Demison year.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
For it, I'm still saying it's not going to work Belichick.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Belichick has just made North Carolina football so much more
interesting just by signing on the dotted line. Whatever the
buyout is, whatever that is. I'm fascinated to watch North
Carolina football next year. Like, just like I didn't think
I was going to be interested in watching Colorado football
a couple of years ago. It put him back on
the map and it's worked to a certain degree. Is
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he going to win a national title?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Probably not, But this like, but why would you say
that un C is a legitimate university with legitimate resources,
and Bill Belichick is a legitimate commodity that can bring
way more resources to a legitimate school. Why not think
that they can go to this man had won so
many Super Bowls. Why would you not think that he
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could put together a team that can win a national
title if.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
They're a five hundred football team. He's taking over. I
don't look at it as like National Championship, College Football
playoff or bust. It's taking a team that hasn't been
on the map in a little while. I think they've
got one double digit win season and like a twenty
plus years or whatever it is. And it's an interesting hire.
And it's a guy who's always prepared, who's going to
come in with his own ideas and own philosophy and
(35:16):
getting to go after the players he wants to go after.
I think it's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Come on, man, I would not be surprised that they're
challenging for a national title in the next two years.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Okay, all right, we have what that next two years?
That's okay year, Yeah, that's a that's if one hundred
and twenty other teams get sanctions, then why is that
Carolina will be competing for.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Hey man, we're in the era.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So are you saying hold on, are you saying making
the playoff.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Or you said the playoff like be a competitor?
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Well being is not very good.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I know they got a couple of teams in, but
still he could be a player in the next two
years with the type of resource.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I think you put it this way at table Clubson.
All right, Clebson, has a you the biggest underdogs? Yes, yes,
I believe so.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
So Yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Guess it's not that it might be. It might not
be that difficult to win the a SEC.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I don't think it's far fetched at all.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
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Take a listen.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
We get a bunch of free sneakers. I wear sweatsuits
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Speaker 1 (38:18):
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basketball program and has always been. You know, so congratulations
Pat Kelsey on the map for the Louisville Cardinal.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I just think the media is undefeated on laughing their
asses off for some of the most just like interesting
responses to questions come on bar like. It is the
wildest as ever, the way media laughs at certain things
like so dope, Haley, he ready hale you sons of bitches. Damn,
(39:04):
let's go to a break man. While man, the media
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you ain't got to laugh at people say everything is
not funny. Man, you pop sorry you people need to
do better.
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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we will discuss. We're also going to be talking about
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There you go. See we're all in agreement. I'm still
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I thought the response was very funny. I thought it
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Speaker 1 (03:26):
Listen, look, I've got a Brady for financial advice. Was
this stuff like a quadruple Masters in business from uh,
you know, like Dublin.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
And he's still in school to do it, Like like
Brady's in so much school over finance that he's going
to actually get to write a course that is the
Brady Quinn Course. Brady for what. No, he attacked us.
You know, we do the Blue Chuo pill reads and
stuff like that. You're like, I think it's beneath you
guys to do uh you know, Boner to do no
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Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yeah you might not, you know if you're listening and
complaining about it, but someone might so you know, yeah,
I would be.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I would have to say to you, buddy, if you're
listening right now exactly jonus, don't don't don't be so
selfish man, you know, because there will come a time
where you sat there and you thought, Man, I never
would have thought today would have been that day that
I thought about using it, you know what I mean.
And it may come. It just might come.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm just telling you, Yeah, it might yeah, so you
don't want to be no Diddy, no diddy on that one.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
That I put that one together and for what it's makers,
and I say that's it at that time may come.
But anyway, the point is that you you may need
a climactical ending. Unlike last night's Thursday night game that
we watched. Well, I mean you that game needed a
blue cheo. You know what.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm a big fan of low scoring football game, are you. Yeah,
you know, especially a guy.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It still didn't. I still had no love for that game.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
When Mother Nature's like, oh you guys were playing a
football game tonight, kiss my ass. This is what you'll get.
You'll get a field goal fest between the Rams and
the Niners. So yeah, not the most entertaining game of
the world.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
But Cooper Cup was on a milk box. Huh three targets,
zero catches, zero y'all. Yeah, they said fantasy football. Fantasy
football people were freaking melting down on social media.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I mean, if you were in the playoffs, costed you.
I didn't get that far.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I'm starting Cooper Cup tonight. It was so with Butler's here.
Too much going on in the world of sports, but
not enough scoring last night.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Not enough sports on TV.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And you got Pretty Woman and Ben affleck O d
on drugs, Lorena and Coop are weird, man like, it's weird.
Pretty Woman is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I mean, okay, so what do we like so much
about Pretty Woman? I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Julia Roberts she's a hooker with.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I was gonna say, it's uh, I mean she plays
a hooker in that one.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
So Richard Gear is playing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
She has a heart of gold.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Hey man, Richard Gear on the Sneak is kind of
like your boy Douglas on the Sneak. He has that
like real sly, fox like look that he has with
women in the movie that he plays.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
What's the difference?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Though, pets are allowed Gerbils, hamsters, what guinea pigs?
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Which one listen, Little Hide and Go Seek never hurt anybody.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
But his looks aren't as intense as Michael Douglas's though,
and the action isn't as intense either, But the approach
seems to be kind of close to the same. So
there you go, and I can guarantee you those two
could use blue cheo. That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Maybe a couple now do you think maybe uh Devandre
Campbell of the Niners could use some help at this
point in time. Kind of an interesting situation popped up
during the game last night that featured a bunch of
field goals in which Devondre Campbell of the Niners decided, eh,
not into it, and uh Kyle Shanahan, the head coach
(07:45):
of the forty nine ers, was asked about it afterwards.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Happened with Defondre Campbell.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
He didn't play and he went into the locker room
at some point.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, he didn't said he didn't want to play to day,
during the game or before I was in third.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Quarter, Devandre opted into not going to the game. What
do you need to do to ensure that you don't
lose the rest of the locker room. I haven't lost anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's somebody doesn't want to play football.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That's pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean, I think our team and myself, we know
Awaly feel about that. So I don't think we need
to talk about him anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So, I mean that could be a little bit detached
from reality. We haven't lost anyone. There's only so many
guys on the roster, and if one of them happened
to say I don't want to go into the game, which,
by the way, this is like the second time in
so many weeks that we've had a guy that opted
(08:33):
out of going into the game. I mean, it is
Bowl season. Is it that time of the year where
now it's transitioning into the National Football League game? Oh,
I'm just gonna opt out of this game.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
You don't want to play in the levice.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
This is like, you know, this is like a bowl
game that I don't want to play in, So I'm
gonna just go ahead and take it on in. I mean,
but seriously speaking, that is losing a player. You did lose.
Anyone is someone if they're on your roster because you
guys chose to put that man on your roster. He
was not only on your roster, but he was an
active man on your roster, which is a very very
(09:08):
very low percentage of people in the world that had
that job. And he went to the locker room. So
you can't say you don't want to lose or I
don't I haven't lost anyone. Our roster is good and
they want to play football, like he didn't want to
play football.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
They had two linebackers go out in the game last night.
They needed him to go back in, and he said no,
and then he had Charvarius Ward who ripped him. Afterwards.
George Kittle also had this to say about his decision
out to go back in.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
That is one person who just decided not to play
for his teammates. And no, I don't think that that
doesn't like does make our office so should be like wow, man, No,
we're falling apart. It's more of a or like the
defense he we're falling apart. It's more of a one
person making a like Mooney said, it a selfish fit decision.
(10:02):
And I'm with Mooney on that, and I I've never
been around anybody that's ever done that, and I hope
I'm never run anybody that does that again.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
So I agree, I agree with Kittle. But that's the
reality of it is is now you can't say never.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
That's that's that's one right there. That's one perspective right there.
I mean, here's the here's the reality is. I have
no idea if Devondre Campbell is going through something mentally.
Who was the player who quit at halftime in Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Wasn't that Vonte Davis.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Or that was his brother who I think passed away recently.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
That was that's who passed away. Yeah, he's the one
who did it and even retired, didn't he walked down
right like I'm done.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Like when he was done, he was done.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I'm done, And I'm not only done with this game,
I'm done with this profession. I'm done, right Yeah. And
I don't know Vernon Davis.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
The specifics, the circumstances.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Any of it.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Like, I don't know if any of it is mental
health related. It could be like I'm done, I'm done
with the game. Not doing this, I have no idea.
So I don't really want to pass judgment, although I mean,
from the jump it does sound like an awful thing
to do to your teammates, an awful thing to do
to everyone else involved. But so it needs more clarification
(11:30):
from him, specifically as to why exactly you just chose
to quit on your team. You know a lot of
guys are battling through different injuries, things like that they're
playing through. I don't know if that even played a factor.
Doesn't sound like it. So it's tough for me to
sit here and and try to make a case for it.
But I always kind of I caution people sometimes because
(11:51):
sometimes there's a greater issue at hand and it hasn't
been diagnosed, it hasn't been addressed, hasn't been discussed. So
I'm a little bit concerned because it just seems so abnormal.
Maybe not for him, Like I've never played with the dude.
I've been in locker room with him, and maybe this
is something he does, but man, it's just such a
(12:12):
bad look and I can't imagine. I just I can't
imagine that he's gonna get signed again. You quit on
your team, and he doesn't have a job today. By
the way, y'all, he doesn't have a job. You can
guarantee if you look at it, it's a death sentence
for your career if you do something like this and
there's not some reason behind it.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Now, I mean, maybe he looked at Deontay Johnson and
said to himself, you know what, I like the way
that looked to me. And if they treat me the
same exact way, I'm going to do the same exact thing,
and I'm going to improve my point. Some people have
weird and interesting ways of trying to be creative and
(12:55):
proving what they feel their points should be and while
I'll look agree with you on saying, listen, I don't
know what that young man is dealing with and what
maybe was the framework and the motivation that went into
his frame of thought. But I will, however, say this,
(13:16):
of the all of the studying and all of the
information that has gathered and choosing people to be a
part of your team and a part of your roster,
it's such an extensive and an exhausting thing for certain
people to do, your scouting department and your g and
we just talked about it yesterday with Lombardi being hired
(13:38):
for you, and see with Bill Belichick how important it
is to be able to evaluate the talent that you're
going to bring in for your team. At some point,
your studies should have revealed that there are things connected
to the way this young man handles things, or the
way that he may think or feel or whatever it
(14:00):
may be, and you got to take an educated, you know,
assessment or make an educated decision on if you want
to bring that type of personality into your locker room,
because it can be a cancer to the rest of
your team. Now, he's not a significant enough figure for
(14:23):
that to be the case, but what if it was
what if the name is different, what if it's an
Antonio Brown? You know what I mean. I'm not only
going to leave and not go back in because of
how I feel about the scenario, but I'm a d
robe and I'm going to make a spectacle of the
situation for this team, for this game and for myself
(14:47):
on my way out. You know, these are things that
you have to weigh out. You gotta think about, and
that's a part of sport. It's one of the interesting
aspects of the job. But you have to measure out
and weigh out what the emotional, mental stability and capacity
of what the talent is that you're looking at and
(15:09):
you're evaluating for your team. So I'll agree with Kyle Shanahan.
I don't think this was a scenario where you have
to be you know, I guess disturbed or aware of
if you're losing, concerned if you're losing your locker room.
But you can't just say anyone because you guys chose
to have him on your roster. So he's someone He's
(15:32):
just someone that now just became anyone based off of
the decision that he chose to make and representation of
his self in that moment.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, but is that a reflection on them choosing the
wrong guy or the guy choosing the wrong time to
go in for himself.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I mean, I gotta be accountable for the decisions that
you make. So if that man made that decision and
that became public knowledge, that's still a reflection of their
decision of making.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I think it's I think it's one guy who went
rogue and decided I don't want to be a part
of this anymore, and you still have to take terrible
spot if you wanted, Yeah, just go rogue.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
He went rogue right now? No, I mean he's probably
doing something to help the show.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
To LaPray Campbell.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I mean, but d Cooper is though. But there you go.
He went rogue. There you go, there you go. I mean,
what what perfect timing for you to even say? It
couldn't the commercial? I couldn't even wait.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
What's what's interesting is if you look at the season
for the Niners, maybe that's why you didn't go in though,
because if you had to alleviate himself, you know, you
if you if he had to go.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
To the bathroom, saying if he had to go to
the bathroom like Lee, maybe that was why he didn't
want to go back into the game.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, we sound such a good run.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
I mean, imagine that. Imagine that's the moment you said it,
irony of the moment you saying it, and we look
in there and he literally went rogue to the restroom.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Well, yeah, that's what he does, taking a regular We're
getting back to the conversation and off Lee. The bigger
issue is for the forty nine ers. It's not looking
good this season and they haven't had a subdouble digit
win season in which they've gone to at least the
NFC Championship Game, if not the Super Bowl since twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
So think about that.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Prior to this year, four out of the last five years,
all they've known is at least an NFC Championship game,
if not a super Bowl. And yeah there was that
you know, six and ten year back in twenty twenty,
But this, I don't know, does it feel like that year.
Does it feel like a team that's just kind of
battled through a bunch of injuries. It feels different in
(17:59):
my my because they have to make so many business
decisions and I don't know how they keep it all together.
Like their window was open from twenty nineteen to twenty
twenty three, and those were their opportunities to go win
a Super Bowl, and unfortunately they ran into the Chiefs
twice and they couldn't get past the Rams, and they
couldn't get past the Eagles. Like that probably is how
(18:21):
we're going to remember this team.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, their championship windows got a sorry wear clothes sign
on the outside.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
That's a wrap.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And Trent Williams is getting older, the injuries are piling up,
the brock Purty stuff is out there. It just everything
about this year just felt like this wasn't headed in
the right direction. You had a guy get shot in
the middle of the street in broad daylight before the year,
like right then and there, I was like, okay, so
this is where we're at. The Deebo Samuel stuff, which,
(18:52):
by the way, him dropping that pass, which probably would
have been a tit of bound yeah ran after all
the noise and conversation he had this year. It just
feels like they're up against it. They're one and four
in the division now Seattle and the Rams feel like
they're kind of pulling away from everybody else there. I
just I don't see it. I think it's I think
that's pretty much it for them.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
It's just amazing to be at a point in time
where someone who has had so much success and has
been louded in praise for how well they have done,
and praise for how unique and how creative and bright
a mind as one of the young coaches in this
league has been in Kyle Shanahan, that the questions would
(19:35):
actually start to surface as to if there may if
his time may have run its run its course. You know,
you have to ask there was the question asked of
their GM if if there was actually the possibility if
they would retain their coach. That's that's damning if you
(19:58):
ask me that. If you want to understand the level
and the magnitude of what one season of a lack
of success, what that looks like, you have to have
the conversation as to dusk, is it time for Shanahan
to move on? Is it time to move on from Shanahan?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Those florio kind of stirring the pods.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, but I mean and stirring the pot There could
be some legitimacy in the stirring. I mean, they are
not They are under their sub five hundred team right now,
and they are not competitive. In fact, they are the
worst team in their division right now. And that's that's
(20:40):
a far that's a very very far drop from where
they were not not too long ago, a year ago.
It's a far drop, man. And and you have to
ask yourself why is that. I mean, they've overcome injuries before.
This just does not look like a team that is
going in the right direction, even with all of the
(21:02):
adverse situations that they have have had to endure.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, I got to feel that we're going in the
right direction today because I've got a big announcement for
you guys.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Here.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oh wow, okay, it's a football front, all right, yeah, yeah,
come on. Yeah, he's very exciting.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah all right, yeah, not here, please not here.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
He's spiking boom, spiking, spiking poop. Yeah, spike you poop. Yeah,
he's back. He's got something trail. He got a steaky trail.
He got sneaky trail. He got the steaky trail. All right,
(21:53):
right now, let's do it. Let's do it for Eddie
g This one's for you, Eddie Friday.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It is a ball Friday.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Damn football Friday. Go for the backing the nerds, spike
the turns, Football Friday, Spike the Turns, Spike the turn
It is tough.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
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in case you missed it later this hour, we do
have our Picks against the Spread. Hour two of the program.
Albert Breer is going to stop by. He's got to
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up shop with Lee's leftovers. All of it is yours
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Speaker 3 (22:42):
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Speaker 4 (23:05):
Youre boy man, we are going is it back that's
your man. Yeah, it leads back. I mean it is
feeling good too. There you go. Last feels lighter, feels better.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I couldn't wait for the commercial break at least.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
No. Yeah, why do you say no like that lead?
I mean because when night calls, it calls, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Coops in my seat anyway, so might as well.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
So yeah, Coop does.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Take a little while.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And the last thing I need is him holding it in.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Wait, why is that makes it worse?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, it starts leaking out.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Wow, there we go. I mean it's just bad. I mean,
he's not a sewage pipe, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'll argue over that and fix my sewage pipe. Not
my sewage pipe, but my sewage pipe.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I would suggest, if you're getting up there in age,
and and that up there in age is getting a
little lower by the year, make sure you go get
your sewage pipe checked out. Make sure you're good man.
That's right. That might make it on the best of
There you go, while we're on while we're on it,
just make sure you go get yourself checked. Don't be
too good to go, get you know, the pipe checked out.
(24:32):
There you go, and I'm being did serious man, go
get that thing checked out, because save your life. Hey,
let's talk about older age. By the way, final call.
Are we staying on? Are we staying on? That's a
transition right there. Well done. I'm sure he goes and
(24:52):
gets his just.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Like he told a room full hall of famers. You
can catch all of those transitions on the up on
Game Network.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I didn't tell anybody anything. I was just live streaming,
that's all. Don't do that. Don't be passive aggressive.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
That's ten dollars, ten dollars. Yeah, I didn't do that.
That was not me, all right. So Belichick, Bill Belichick
Man Matt Sign. Bill Belichick was introduced yesterday at Chapel
Hill new head coach at North Carolina and spoke about
his decisioning and also what the future could look like
(25:24):
for the Tariels.
Speaker 8 (25:25):
I always wanted a coach in football, coaching college football.
It just never really worked out. Some good years in
the NFL, so that was okay. This is really kind
of a dream come true. I grew up in college
football with my dad, and so it's great to come
back home to Carolina, you know, back in an environment
that I really grew up in. There'll certainly be a
strong presence of NFL people on the staff. I think
(25:47):
that's a certainty, and not only in the staff and
in the training area. But at the same time, I'm
looking for the best people we can get for Carolina,
and that fit, I think is a little different than
what an NFL team would have.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
But we'll see in your legacy, say I keep coaching.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
Well, beat's working. You know, when you love what you do,
And my dad told me this, when you love what
you do, it's not work, it's really it's I love
what I do.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I love coaching.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
But what do you say to people that fear that
if you do succeed here that you might leave for
the NFL again in a year or two.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah, I didn't come here to leave. Yeah, go ahead
and clap it up. Oh yeah, it's called respect. Man.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Well, did you see these stipulations in his contract?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
What his buyout is? Yeah, you sent it to us, right,
is that your Basically.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
By the summer of next year, it goes from like
a ten million.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Dollars buyout, it's like one million dollars. Man. That's basically saying, listen,
please hire me. I'm wanted a job. It's more like
he's going to take it. Now they get to the
spring and be like, give me something more.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Yeah, maybe this isn't what I thought, you know, like,
I I'm not sure. I'm gonna be honest, I'm not
sure really what the point of structuring this deal like
that is for only because unless it was misreported, it
really doesn't benefit him or the school, you know, like
you'd think that it would at least.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Go through the first year.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
But either way, if he's not gonna leave, he's not
gonna leave. He's got three years of guarantees in this contract.
We haven't seen all the details, so we don't know
exactly the specifics. But let's just say he's gonna be
there three years. What you'd bet on is that he's
gonna be there for three years lay the foundation of
what this program is going to look like at UNC,
(27:36):
and his son's going to take over from all reports.
That was part of the reason why he made this decision.
His son, Steve Belichick, who was coaching at Washington under
Jedfish as their defensive coordinator, will now I assume, be
their defensive coordinator and their head coaching waiting. That's most
likely the plan, and there's nothing wrong with that if
you could do it right. I mean, I mean some
people are gonna be upset by it. I know Stuart
(27:59):
Mandel wrote this skating column about why it's not going
to work, and you know why. You know, these college
schools and universities they go after NFL coaches and it
never works, all right, Which, look, Stewart didn't admit the
fact that you know, they basically if there was ever
a time that it would work, this probably would be
that time.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
And that's what I would argue.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Although the miscalculation is if you look at what they've
talked about Michael Lombardi's talked about as his general manager
there at UNC, how they're going to build through the
transfer portal, and you go look at Dion's success from
year one to year two. One of the biggest things
Dion talked about from year one to year two was
the changes on his staff. He went from thinking he
(28:44):
needed to have college coaches at the college level and
instead brought in more NFL mindset NFL coaches on his
in his second year as a head coach.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
So it's actually the opposite.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Of what Stuart has about in this sense that like
Dion's example, of what he's built is more of an.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
NFL style program at Colorado.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
And if that's what Bill Belichick's trying to do, If
that's what if you look at all of the great
coaches who've won national championships send guys in the NFL,
they're building in a similar fashion, or they have built
in a similar fashion. They have a gigantic scouting departments
for high school transfer portal, you know, all these all
these different levels of recruitment, just like you kind of
(29:30):
do if you're in an NFL franchise. So I'll say again,
the age thing is the one thing that you say, Okay, well,
just how long does he want to do it? I
would imaginef you're Bubba Cunningham, by the way, their athletic
director at UNC, if he's signed up to bring in
Bill Belichick, he knows what he's signing up for. And
I don't think this is something that happened over the
(29:51):
past seventy two hours. The past week. You know, there
was reports that he wanted to fire mac Brown or
won to mac Brown to step down during the season.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
It didn't happen.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Then it got to a certain point where he had
to make the decision and if that was happening, I
don't think it's too far fetched to think that Bubba
Contingham wasn't putting out feelers and maybe poked around with
someone like Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Hey, Bill, you're out right now working in the media.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Would you be interested in you?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
And see?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Okay, I mean there's a three hundred page report that
Bill Belichick gave you and see as to how he
was going to build this up and all that's come
to their agreement. Do you think that happened overnight? I mean,
he's been preparing for this moment, so I think all
of this has probably been going on for a lot
longer than we realized behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I look at Bill Belichick and the first thing I
think about off the bat is he's way too competitive,
just like I made the comparison of Tom Brady going
into the booth, way too competitive to not succeed at
what it is that he's doing. And while we may
say this is a different level that he's going to,
(31:02):
it's still the same sport. It's still the same game.
So it's not even the same type of adjustment. And
speaking of what he and what Tom have done going
into media and being in the booth. He's not going
there to lose. He's not going there just to get
a cash grab. And I think that might be part
of the reason why, you know, go ahead and make
(31:24):
my buyout a low buyout, because by the time we
get to the end of year one, there's not going
to be the discussion of any buyouts. It's going to
be holy crap. Look at what Bill Belichick did at
you and see that's what I believe he's thinking, you know,
and then and then let me make this point. The
other point is, and it was in sound as well,
(31:46):
was him talking about because everybody keeps talking about how
will Bill Belichick recruit, how will he be attractive to
the recruits? And he made a very very strong mention
of guys that he's coached, including Tom Brady, talked about
his draft pick number and how late he was taken,
(32:09):
and that named other players that did not come right
in immediately and be positive contributors and big time players
and the greatest players of all time right out the gate,
that it took time to develop them. If you're getting
a glowing endorsement from the horse's mouth themselves, that development
(32:31):
is going to be the key approach to what it
is that he's doing. He has now already put himself
hidden shoulders above probably ninety eight point percent of the
coaches that are in the college game right now by saying,
we are going to take the focus and put it
(32:52):
on developing the players that come to our program. I
think already right now he's established the fact that he
understands what he needs to do at the college level.
He's using the lingo that would match what you're supposed
to say as a college coach. I think that Bill
(33:13):
Belichick has ultimately thought it through and has really really
has really really come to terms with I can do it.
And therefore, if they give me every single thing I
want where I can run this program and beyond and
(33:33):
beyond with what I'm doing, I'm going to come here
and I'm going to do it, and I might just
finish out my coaching career at this school. I don't
think that's far fetched to think at all.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well, but it's also probably the right approach. Like Stuart Mandelan,
some of these people that are like, well, it's not
going to work, this will never work. His approach will
never work in college. Dude, how do you know, how
do you know, and first of all, Deon Sanders has
been great for college football, and there were a lot
of people that were rooting for their Demison year.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
For it, I'm still saying it's not going to work Belichick.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Belichick has just made North Carolina football so much more
interesting just by signing on the dotted line. Whatever the
buyout is, whatever that is. I'm fascinated to watch North
Carolina football next year. Like, just like I didn't think
I was going to be interested in watching Colorado football
a couple of years ago. It put him back on
the map and it's worked to a certain degree. Is
(34:28):
he going to win a national title?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Probably not, But this like, but why would you say
that un C is a legitimate university with legitimate resources,
and Bill Belichick is a legitimate commodity that can bring
way more resources to a legitimate school. Why not think
that they can go to this man had won so
many Super Bowls. Why would you not think that he
(34:51):
could put together a team that can win a national
title if.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
They're a five hundred football team. He's taking over. I
don't look at it as like National Championship, College Football
playoff or bust. It's taking a team that hasn't been
on the map in a little while. I think they've
got one double digit win season and like a twenty
plus years or whatever it is. And it's an interesting hire.
And it's a guy who's always prepared, who's going to
come in with his own ideas and own philosophy and
(35:16):
getting to go after the players he wants to go after.
I think it's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Come on, man, I would not be surprised that they're
challenging for a national title in the next two years.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Okay, all right, we have what that next two years?
That's okay year, Yeah, that's a that's if one hundred
and twenty other teams get sanctions, then why is that
Carolina will be competing for.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Hey man, we're in the era.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So are you saying hold on, are you saying making
the playoff.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Or you said the playoff like be a competitor?
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Well being is not very good.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
I know they got a couple of teams in, but
still he could be a player in the next two
years with the type of resource.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I think you put it this way at table Clubson.
All right, Clebson, has a you the biggest underdogs? Yes, yes,
I believe so.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
So Yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Guess it's not that it might be. It might not
be that difficult to win the a SEC.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I don't think it's far fetched at all.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
All Right, coming up next here from the Tireck dot
Com Studios, we're going to tell you about a breath
of fresh air from one coach in the world of sports.
That's right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
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Will say three pros. That's all I'm gonna say. That's
all I'm gonna say. There's a good reason on the
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Speaker 1 (36:52):
Pocket Coming up top of next hour, it's a few
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Speaker 3 (37:16):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Speaker 1 (37:25):
It, and for that we turn it over to our
executive producer, Lea Lap Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas,
Good morning, Brady, Good morning, LeVar, morning guys. In case
you missed this, Louisville basketball coach Pat Kelsey, in his
first year as the head coach of the program, was
asked what it's like facing Duke and Kentucky with you
tep in between them and gave a good shout out.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Take a listen.
Speaker 9 (37:48):
We get a bunch of free sneakers. I wear sweatsuits
the work. My kids are healthy, my wife's hot, like
I got pretty good life. We get to play college basketball,
get to play in the single, get to get ready
for Utah. My dad used to say it all the
time like I would. I would say, Dad, you gotta
go to work today, said so on, I get to
(38:08):
go to work today, right, heck heck yeah. Schedule has
been a little bit difficult and we had some adversity,
but you know, the guy's been awesome and.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
That's exactly why. That's exactly why Louisville is Kentucky's premier
basketball program and has always been. You know, so congratulations
Pat Kelsey on the map for the Louisville Cardinal.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I just think the media is undefeated on laughing their
asses off for some of the most just like interesting
responses to questions come on bar like. It is the
wildest as ever, the way media laughs at certain things
like so dope, Haley, he ready hale you sons of bitches. Damn,
(39:04):
let's go to a break man. While man, the media
be killing me with that. I'm part of media. Man,
you ain't got to laugh at people say everything is
not funny. Man, you pop sorry you people need to
do better.
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