December 23, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys tell critics to quit complaining about the 1st go around of the expanded college football playoff! That’s a wrap on the race for the Offensive Rookie of the Year after Jayden Daniels performance vs the Eagles. Plus, some feel good stories on ICYMI.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this football recap Monday. Of course, we're going
to start with the college football Playoffs, the twelve team edition. Yeah,
there was a lot of blowouts, but there was a
lot to love about it.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We will discuss.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We're also going to have a discussion with Petros Papadakas
earlier than usual this week with the holidays. Petros is
going to join us later on here, and he's got
all sorts of thoughts on not only the college football playoff,
but Kirk Herb Street, another dog, et cetera, et cetera.
We will have another conversation as well too, about an
award that is over with in the NFL. It is
(00:35):
a wrap, the award is gone and it's the offensive
Rookie of the Year. It'll go to Jayden Daniels. We
will discuss whether or not Ben Johnson was auditioning for
the Bears job yesterday. Plus, you've got the race for
the number one pick, You've got Lee's leftovers, and you've
got an FSRI I R. It's all yours coming up
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The college football playoffs?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
That was everything I'd hoped would be in more obviously
went to two separate venues. I'll let LeVar speak on
on Happy Valley, but man, it was electric.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
It was here.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Here's the thing I love the most about it is
the passion behind it. Now that comes with some unfortunate things,
For example, in particular in Columbus, Ohio, for Ohio State
and Tennessee young young Man was told that Santa's not
real by an Ohio State fan who happen to be
written from the Volunteers. There was a lot of things
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being thrown around about the Civil War. A lot of
those things were mentioned in there, so there was definitely
a divide. There was definitely passion behind I think the
game of football and what was on the you know,
the stakes and what was.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
On the line.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
But it was awesome, like every single piece of it.
I know there's gona be people who complain about the
results of the game. We'll get to that, but I
had an absolute blast. It was the coolest thing I've seen.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, we SMU fans were pretty confident going into it.
You know. I had a few of them at my tailgate.
We were hanging out and the environment was was amazing,
Like it was almost it had a tremendous feel of nostalgia.
You know. It's just like walking in there and looking
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around and and feeling the cold and seeing like the
snow coming down a little bit. It was it just
gave you a feeling of this is truly like a
historical moment, and you could feel it like I could
feel it, and I think everybody else could feel feel
the energy in the air too, So it was it
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was pretty cool, man. And then you know, for for
it to be a game that was defined by you know,
Penn State's defense and and most most more specifically by
the linebackers, it was, man, It just was. It felt right,
It felt very very correct.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Kevin Jennings at your tailgate before the game, No, that's
what led okay.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I was just wondering what that was about. Kevin Jennings
was not on my tail because he was. He was
serving it up, he was serve in it.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It did appear, It did appear, and it was pretty
obvious that the home field advantage was real.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And I don't know if that was why.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
The blowouts happened in every single game, but it did
feel like the visiting team had a hard time either
adjusting to the conditions or just the overwhelming support and
advantage that the home team was getting. That's what it
felt like watching it. Maybe it was different in person,
but that's what it felt like watching it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It seems it's a big difference.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
It's one of the reasons why I'd love to expand
to sixteen. And I know they probably won't. I know,
they're probably gonna go to fourteen or something else. But
sixteen would make sense because I don't know that these
teams deserve buys, you know, and I.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Think we can figure.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like, here's the reality is everyone's gonna complain about the
results of the game. Which if you're going to complain
about that, then you must not have been watching the NFL.
When you look at the average margin of victory in
the wildcard round, early rounds in the playoffs also double digits.
Those games majority of the time are not even close.
Go back to twenty twenty three, look at the playoffs,
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look at the margin of victories and those so, like,
spare me your complaints about it. The other thing is
it comes off is ridiculously hypocritical. Like we all wanted
the expansion of the playoff, We all wanted this environment,
these opportunities to be able to go to a home
playoff game, you know, this late in the year where
you've got the scenes of snow and everything else.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
And then when we get it, we're gonna complain about it.
I mean, come on, man, Like.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Have you watched the four team college football playoffs semi finals?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Those haven't been competitive either. So anyone who.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Went into these games thinking that they were going to
be extremely competitive, they must not have followed college football
or even, for that matter, watch the NFL, because that's
kind of how it's worked out. And I think if
you were being honest with yourselves, some people will take
issue with this. But all the favorites won, right. There
was no upsets, which is kind of how it's supposed
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to be.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I understand the margin of victory was, you know, pretty
big in most cases, but the truth of the matter is, like,
those are four of the best teams in college football,
and you had at least at least two teams you
would say were on the bubble in SMU and I'd
say Indiana, And then you had a team that had
three losses that earned their way in by winning the
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ACC championship in Clemson. So the truth of the matter
is you probably had three of the teams that were
fringe teams anyway.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But I just I hate to see.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
People complaining about a product in its first year that,
to me was awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And the worst part is is.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I don't know that it's the fans so much as
there is the people who actually work in the industry,
which is what doesn't make.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Any sense to me.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You know, everyone's kind of complaining about you know, however
the matter, what does it matter? Like we got awesome
college football environments and the next round to me is
only going to get better and better as we had
coached the national champions So I can't stand to hear
people complaining about it. We got what we wanted, that's
the expanded playoffs. Stop bitching and moaning about it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think that's what people are just conditioned to do it.
And I think that's what it is. It's not just
college football. Yeah, in life, people are conditioned to do that,
and that's that's that's what it comes down, like the
whole Like what did you explain?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
There's no guarantees, Like you get a matchup, You get
a matchup, and either the matchup's great or it could
be a wipeout. Like there's no guarantees, but the fact
that you had the opportunity to watch it and experience it.
And I'm the same way, like I look at it
and go it's year one, like like this is the
first installment of this and it doesn't mean that there's
not going to be an upset in the next round.
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It doesn't mean there's not going to be two upsets
next year. Maybe it'd be Chalk next year as well too,
But just the idea that well, because we're just used
to complaining, let's just find something else to complain about.
It's like, okay, then if we expand, then the team
that gets left out, you're going to complain about that,
or if there's a result.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It just that's the way it goes.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
If it's such a negative approach, it's it's a waste
time if you asked me, because at the end of
the day, those teams did something that warrant them, earned
them the right and the opportunity to compete. So at
the end of the day, if they were to lose,
they lost. If they were to win, then you're gonna
have something to complain about it as well as it
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applies to that. So the bottom line is you had
an opportunity to strap it up. You had an opportunity
to go out there and try it. I mean, we
had at length conversations about the bird that Signetti had
and how upset he was. He did his interview and
talked about what he talked about felt like they should
have had a home game, and this that and the
other and so on and so forth, and you know.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
What, I believed them.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I believed it, like, Okay, they played well this year
and they didn't show up. They didn't show up. I mean,
maybe they showed up, man, I mean I said, I
felt like Notre Dame was improving dramatically and the team
that got clipped by by Northern Illinois early on in
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the year, that team is far long gone. That's not
the same team. And I felt like they were going
to earn their way and punch a ticket into into
the playoffs. They proved that they're not a team that
was the same team that had that loss. It was
a very impressive and decisive victory. I looked at Tennessee.
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I thought Tennessee could have could have went into after
watching what what Michigan did. I thought that Tennessee had
a legit opportunity to go into Ohio and Columbus and win.
It didn't work out that way. But if people are
spending more time talking about all the product is poor,
this sucks, they shouldn't like, man, look here, man, then
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go do something else. Go do something else, because when
it comes down to it when those kids strap up
or when they're working out, or when they're preparing and
they're talk in the class and they decide a kid
can decide to go to a school that isn't one
of the main power for schools. They can decide to
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go to those schools, and they should have the opportunity
to work their ass off. And if their record says
that the committee is going to put them into the
playoff and give them the opportunity to compete, then let
it be that. Let it be that, like all these
holier than thou conversations about they didn't belong, they didn't belong,
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Let it play out. Let it play out. How do
you get an opportunity to prove or earn the right
that they should be saying you should be there? The
only way you get an opportunity to do that is
if you get the opportunity to play. If they never
have gotten the opportunity to play, Oh, Alabama should have
been in Miami, should have been in Da Da Dah.
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If you take traditional powers and you replace the teams
that have had good years, how do they get the
opportunity to grow? So is it the rich get richer
and keep the to poor and you serve a purpose
for the season. You don't serve a purpose for anything
else further than the regular season. This is the purpose
you serve because you don't belong in the playoffs. I
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think that's bs man. Let it play out, and it
played out. God blessed the underdog's loss. Okay, way, and
they had home games, okay, Like it was great. I
thought it was great for college sports.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And by the way, it's not even like these are
pay per view events. You didn't pay for him. So look,
the result is a result. You got what you got,
and people that are that are looking back afterwards going, oh, well,
if so and so was in that game, it would
have been different.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Tough balls.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
They didn't do enough to get there, like and you
want to blame it on the voters. It's like it's
like being pissed at somebody who advanced in your company
and you being like, man, I would do such a.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Better job of that. That's exactly what those people do.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, but you're lazy ass didn't put in the work
to get there, like so so that there's like you're
missing a key part of the conversation. So I thought
it was awesome. Man, and and I'm happy it's here.
And I thought the scene and Friday night when Julian
Love ripped off that touchdown at the beginning, Yeah, sorry
Jeremiah when he ripped off that touchdown at the beginning
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of the game. I'm watching it on television, going, you
can't get this anywhere, Like, you're not getting this in
an NBA game. You're not getting this anywhere else. To
see that place go bananas like it did the way it's.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Going bananas Where I was, God, I was in State
college and and people were going nuts. I mean it
was jam packed where I was at watching that game.
So cool, man, The whole thing was so it's exciting.
Stop trying to take the excitement out of it, Like
everything doesn't have to be that way, Like, just be
excited about the fact that teams get to compete.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Well, I think it's also and like you guys, kind
of you said, we're conditioned to just like wind and complain,
And obviously social media platforms give us the ability to
do so kind of freely, right, But it's also because
we focus so much on the results, Like we look
at the box score and we say, well, that game
was a blow.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It was like I was at Ohio State Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
At no point, at no point did Tennessee feel like
they had any shot in that game. With the exception
of this, credit Tennessee volunteers for showing up. There was
probably I would say the split was sixty forty sixty
five thirty five something like that. Yeah, there was a
There was thirty thousand plus, which is probably closer to
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seventy thirty if you do the math.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
But there was thirty.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Thousand plus Tennessee fans there, and you could tell like
they made the trip.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
They came up.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
To Columbus for it, Like you could tell, like you know,
seeing him walk around campus, seeing them just around and
even in the stadium there were sections that were rather loud.
But after that first drive for Ohio State and Jeremiah
or Jeremiah Smith in.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
The touchdown, like amazing. That was it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
And by the way, that's the Ohio State team that
I think Buckeyes fans and really anyone else who follows
college football has been wedding on all year like that's
a team that can win the national championship.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Not not the way they looked the last time out.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
And this has kind of been Ryan Day's deal is
you know when they struggled, they usually show back up.
But now it comes down to I'm not going to
say this is essentially the national championship, but Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Or Games the Rose is the best two teams.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It is like like when Ohio State plays like that,
it is. And the crazy thing is is it's just the.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Quarterfinal and one of them is going home and the
winner is probably going to go on to win the
national championship. I would say they're probably odds on favorite
or not. You know, that's that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Or not. Maybe you know what I mean, Like, maybe
it's that one day Michigan went into Columbus and won.
Maybe it's that one day that's why you do it.
If we knew who was going to win, just just
you know, put the champion in there like hit enter boom,
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Here's who would win because of their roster this that
don't play the game, just it enter Here's who would
have won. It crowned them the champ. That's what makes
it make sense. And for what it's worth, let's think
about it. Penn State does not They they go three
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and out, first drive, SMU go straight down the field
on Penn State. Their first drift, they drop a ball
that could have been that should have been a first
down touchdown, and it got away from them after that,
like there were turnovers, it got away. Who knows what
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the complexity or the you know what that game looks like.
If they get that touchdown early in the game, it
would have quiet the crowd. The crowd would have been like, oh,
here we go. We can't win the big game. Everybody
would have been sitting there are we going to hear
boo birds? Are we gonna hear people say Franklin needs
to go? It was a drop away from that place,
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having the air sucked straight out And I was there
because my air the breath left my body when he
dropped the ball, like thank god he dropped that ball.
So I'm just saying there's the opportunity for somebody think
about the level, Like, let me tell you something. Oregon
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is not coming out to lose that game, because everybody
who paid attention was like, dang, Oregon beat them, Oregon
beat o House State in Ohio State ain't going in
that game to lose because they allowed Oregon to get it.
They are going to beat the s out of each
other in that game. Who's to say that they're not
going to be banged up or fatigued. There might be
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fatigue by the time you get to the championship round.
There might be I don't know, who knows. I know
that's going to be a throttle. That game is going
to be a straight up tilt, especially the way the
first one ended where you had the clock miss man
and they're both they're both perceived. Did you see how arrogantly,
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oh how you know the flag planters. Did you see
how they were like kind of like taunting the Tennessee players. Yeah, like,
don't don't don't act like bitches in moments where don't
act like a victim in moments where it didn't go
to where you want it. And then you you get
to a place where you're treating other teams the way
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they treated them in that moment, like like just just
ride or die with it.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I found myself a couple of times, both in the
Notre Dame MA and the Penn State game early on,
because you mentioned the drive when they're going down the field,
I'm like, oh boy, uh oh, like, uh here it goes.
And then when Riley Leonard's pass got deflected and picked
off early on in that game. I'm like, oh God,
that's all they need, Like you just need to give
Indiana some hope. But it was the fact that it
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was the stage and it was the moment, and you're
living and dying early on with every single play because
you realize every play, the magnitude of it in that
spot was. That's why I like when people want to
get buried in the weeds with the complaints. I look
at it and go, you're you missed a whole lot
of great football there because you got caught up in
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the box.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
For yeah, I I do. I do have to acknowledge
a few bad beats. One SMU at midfield with two
forty five to forty.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Six left.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
And the usually this is typically like how SMU is played.
We saw in the Agency Championship game. They were down,
came back, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Push pushed Clems into the wire.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
But for anyone who had the over in that game,
that's out of fifty two to fifty two and a half,
total score is thirty eight to ten at this point,
so forty eight and Rett Lashly and this is for
a team, by the way, didn't win the conference that
was a fringe team doesn't play out the game like. Instead,
they take out Kevin Jennings and they put in a backup,
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which at that point I'm thinking to myself, okay, like
there's maybe a shot, but the over is probably dead.
I had a buddy who was Alas sitting here watching
it with and he just goes ballistic. It goes irate, right,
and it was about, you know whatever the drive went
down to. It was like a two minute warning, fourth
and twelve. They punt, and I get it. You know,
you're down so much there's not any chance that you're
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gonna be able to come back and probably win. There's
probably a less than one percent chance. But to not
play it out it kind of bothered me. Like I
understand there's even a player's safety issue to some of that.
Kevin Jennings got kind of beat up in that game
a bit, but it wasn't like you like solidified your
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spot there and in a moment where it's like it's
about competition to punt. No different, by the way, no
different than Kurt Signetti making the same decision down three scores, midfield,
fourth down, choosing the punt, and I understand his rationale
because the offense wasn't doing anything all day. But the
game's already over. Bro, you're not getting the ball back
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three times. I mean, that's your best shot of having
any chance.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Whatsoever of winning. I was extremely disappointed.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
If there was one thing I was upset about was
the fact that you had two teams, probably the two
teams that you wanted to make a case who didn't
deserve to be there.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Both their head coaches waved the white.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Flag, and I did hate seeing that. I hated seeing
that from Indiana. I hated seeing it from SMU. Not
just forget the betting standpoint of it, I hated seeing
how they manage that in the end because again not
saying that it would or wouldn't have been a better
matchup with Old miss or Bama, whoever you want to
include from the SEC.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
But I do think those coaches.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I do think Kitlyn de Bor, I do think Lane
Kiffin even getting their butt kicked, we'll play that thing out.
I I don't think they're just gonna roll over and saying, yeah,
let's punt. That was That was the one disappointing thing
that I would point to and say it will give
the committee. I think in the future, maybe a little
bit of pause. I was saying, like, all right, like
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we need to make sure we get teams in here too,
who understand this isn't a gift, like we feel like
you don't play.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
They're like, what are you going for? And for frank,
line them up?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
That was by We're going one of the worst decisions too,
that got completely built out by the pick six completely.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Line them up. We're going. We're going for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
We're going for it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We're playing d We're gonna play defense. Line them up,
We're going. It was it was. It was a questionable call,
but hey we went forward. And by the way, how
cold we stay college? Because I sent you that picture?
Very cold? It looked like I beer, yeah, right, Like
it looked like there was no human life that won.
Any part is telling you that that it looked like
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a throwback scene. I don't know what it looked. I
don't know what a throwback scene in reality looks like
because I wasn't here, But it just it looked like
the videos that they showing, like our Sports Museum, almost
like black and white. That's said, you look miserable, dude. Y'all,
y'all saw what coach Saban said to him. They was
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interviewing the quarterback. He said, you got a hundred and
some thousand, you got the weather, and you got the
depend state defense. By the looks of it, is it
the weather because you're blowing on your hands. You're blowing.
He's doing the interview blowing in his hands to keep
his hands warm. Bruh, that wind chill factor had that
thing on blast on blast. I'm telling you you couldn't
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breathe that joy you know how to air be hit
you in the face like the hawk was out. It
was out. It was out. A bad boy was hitting you.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
By the way, has anyone checked on Lane Kiffin after
Joel Clad put him in a body bag this this
past weekend?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Basically, Lane was trying to stay a case for the
games not being competitive and I think obviously alluding to
old miss maybe you should have been in or maybe
even just an SEC team, which Clad basically responded something
along the lines of, you know, if you have played
as well as you tweet, your team would be in
the playoff, which yeah, which which is I mean, kind
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of a compliment but also at the same time kind
of true too. You know, like, don't lose to Kentucky
and you're probably in the playoff. I shouldn't say probably
you would have been, but that's not where Old.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Miss is at.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
And you could make that case, by the way, with
a number of SEC teams like like your pick your
loss for Bama.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
But that's the one disappointing thing saying it is for
me to hear.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
At least.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
It's like when you hear coaches who are part of
this process almost like they're still politicing, Like, dude.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It's over, Like they picked the teams.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, it's over. We would have been way better.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
They're yeah, like worry about Duke. Let's just go be
Duke in the bowl game. Otherwise you're gonna be eating
those words.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, I don't know. Dang it was.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That was fun man, fun weekend. Good for college football.
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Speaker 2 (24:29):
We've got the usuals coming up later on.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
We got another edition of In case you missed it,
We've also got our FSR I R. It's a special
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Petros is going to be with us here. Obviously, Christmas
is a Wednesday, he's normally on Wednesday. Instead, he'll join
us in an hour three of the program here on
a Monday, and we've got Lee's leftovers. It's all yours
here until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, but
(24:53):
apparently it is all over. That's a wrap on one
event and award we were talking about earlier in the
year on this show, and it's in the NFL next
year on FSR.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
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That'll be yours here again from the tire rack dot
Com Studios. Ladies and gentlemen, not that it wasn't already,
but the offensive Rookie of the Year race over that's
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a wrap, folks. To put it a bit, Jaden Daniels
and the Washington Commandos have. I mean, they had that
little stretch there where they were just trying to rid
themselves of whatever change during the Steelers game, like I
don't know what, like something showed up there or somebody
was present, and it kind of threw them into a
three game skid.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But the Commanders, I am not the mush the bush.
I'm not the mush at all.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I mean, Jalen Hurts injury or not, that's pretty impressive,
especially considering you were a minus four in the turnover
differential and somehow they won that game.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
A horrible how many times they fumbled? Man, Like, it's horrible.
It's the brand new Washington Commanders, man, I just say this.
And watching that game and watching the way it went,
I was like, you know, Washington hadn't had a signature
win all season, they hadn't beat a good team all season,
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and it looked as though they were on that same
trajectory in that game. Now, a lot of people made
the you know, the statement that well, you lost Jalen Hurts.
You lost Jalen Hurts, you didn't have Jalen Hurts, and
while all agree with that, I think if they have
Jalen Hurts, they still find a way to win that game.
And not to mention, if Davante Adams doesn't drop that
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Davonte Smith, if he doesn't drop that ball, you know,
they don't even get the ball back and have the
opportunity to try to go down and win the game.
But it all happened that way. And you're talking about
a Philadelphia defense that's a highly rated defense, the highly
most highly rated defense, and you weren't. You weren't stopping them,
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And not only did you not stop them, but you
didn't overcome what was it five turnovers? Yeah, you didn't
overcome five turn turnovers as a defense. So to me,
I felt as though people say it's more about Jalen
Hurts being out and the Philadelphia Eagles not playing as
well as they should have, and I'll I'll push back
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on that, and I'll say that this is a team
in the Washington Commanders that showed resilience, they showed fight,
no quit They they and by the way, Jalen Hurts
was not missing because Jalen Hurts just wasn't playing. Jalen
Hurts got knocked out of the game. So that's that's
a that's a result of how heart they were playing,
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they were hitting that you could tell that there were
implications connected to this game, playoffs wise, seeding wise, and
the Washington Commanders came out on top. Give them their props,
and give props to Jade and Daniels being a rookie
and that's scenario and rushing forty yards that he did
and delivering when he did so that that team could
win the game.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I think they're two separate conbos.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Like there's no doubt in my mind, Jade Daniels has
been the best player as a rookie this season, and
maybe right and below it is probably Brock.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Bowers, if we're gonna be honest with how we look
at it.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
This game though, turned when Jalen Hurts did go out
of the game, and even Kenny Pickett, who you know
was being I think he had X rays on his
ribs after the game as well, So I don't even
know how how healthy he was even playing in the
backup role. So I think you can you could acknowledge
both things, like it's just the best that it could
have taken from the Philadelphia Eagles for four quarters. No,
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but your point, that's kind of how these games work out.
Like it's not you know, Washington's fault that you know,
Philly you know got beat up or your Hurts gets
knocked out. And then even Picktts, you know, battling through
some stuff too. So that's neither here nor there. At
the end of the day, they overcame it. They came
back at a huge, you know, really fourth quarter, and
Jade Daniels has been everything Washington had hoped he would be.
(29:21):
And I think it puts a lot of pressure on teams. Like,
if you're really looking at the bigger conversation, this is
in one year's time, right, Dan Quinn comes in as
a head coach, we have a new ownership group, Jade
Daniels as your quarterback. They're turning this team into a
playoff team, into a contender. And every one of these
other games that you got to watch, whether it's the
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New York Giants so we'll talk about or you know
Las Vegas, who obviously they need to find a quarterback
even though they won. You start to look at some
of these other franchising teams and go, that's the expectation
now like there's other owners looking around at Jadeen Daniels
and Dan Quinn in Washington saying, why can't we do this?
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Why can't we find that guy? Why can't we find
a coach who can help us turn this around in
year one?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Why do we need to wait?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
And that's the pressure that I think this time of year,
you see as you look at some owners who are
probably thinking, you know, hey, i'd like I'd like the
guy hired, But you know, why aren't things working out?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Why are we losing?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Why are we drafting at the top of the draft
and it's going to be Schadu or whoever wherever he
ends up going, and they have to have the faith
that that quarterback and their current head coach or a
guy they're gonna go higher if they move on from him,
can turn this thing around. Like as as awesome as
it is for Jaden Daniels in Washington, all the fans too,
I think you've been dying for something like this for
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a while. There's also the conversation of like it puts
a lot of pressure and a lot of other teams
out there too, who aren't winning football games that are
trying to find the next Jayden Dangiels.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And also it kind of puts to bed the whole well,
if you if you're drafting a quarterback, it's got to
be an offensive minded guy. Dan Quinn is completely turned
around that program, that organization, and so like to me,
it goes, don't just hire whoever would be the best
fit for the quarterback. Who's the best best fit for
the team, like the best fit for the culture there.
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And they've done an amazing job. I mean they are
one and done in the playoffs. Like, let's not get it,
you know, twisted here. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't
go that far. They're not that's not a bad team.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
They're the Indiana of the NFL. Oh wow, how about
that shot? Let me I'm not even going to entertain
that how I'll further it. But we had a conversation
not too long ago about about what would we have
got if if Patrick Mahomes or if Caleb Williams had
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gone to Kansas City, what we have gotten another Patrick Mahomes?
And probably the answer we we said was yes. So
the bottom line to me is yeah, people are looking
at what that looks like to be able to bring
in a quarterback, or you bring in a quarterback and
a coach and you say, this is what we can
get if we do that. But it comes down to
how you're running your organization. And Caleb Williams could have
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probably been far and away the offensive rookie of the
year had he gone to a better situation and a
better scenario. He has still done some excellent, amazing things.
You just see the youth in his game. You see
that there are places where he can have more development
or have more things that he needs to work on.
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And what does that look like if he's somewhere else?
And so to me, you could sit there and be
witty Johnson and say, man, we brought in Aaron Rodgers.
That didn't work. Why can't we do bring in a
new coach, bringing a new quarterback, and we'll be okay.
Look in the mirror. You want to know who's not
going to lie to you, the person looking right back
(32:54):
at you when you look into the mirror.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Wait, so you can't lie to yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You can't lie to yourself. You can, but yourself knows
the truth. You know the truth and bottom size all
the time. But he knows the truth.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
You can try to hold on, hold on, Lee lies
to himself all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, that might be the only exception to the rule
out of anything and everybody that I would say, you
can't lie to yourself, Lee might be the only exception.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I mean, you need practice. You got to start on
yourself for you can light anybody else.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
They say that habitual liars can convince themselves that their
own lives are true. Like, I get that, But looking
in that mirror, you still know what it is that
you had to do. What is going on? Hammers everywhere,
bang bang everywhere on TV Road Trip? Okay, it's great film.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I remember that movie. I mean, is that the one
with Tom Green? Yes, when I remember he holds up the.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Underwear, whoa lous right.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Whoa.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Totally derailed my thought process. But all I'll say is
if you're going, if you're going to look at what
you want the results to be, then you got to
give that coach and you got to give that quarterback
the environment to have the opportunity to be able to
accomplish that. If you're not going to create an environment
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where it's conducive to that type of growth, Because I
tell you right now, you can feel, you can feel
it if it's negative, if it's positive, if there's like
a true essence of this is what we need, this
is what we want. This is like do what you do.
When I got to Washington and I went and visited
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it was it was very evident. You could feel it.
Dan Quinn has walked into a situation where dan Quinn
can coaches coaches and they can coach their players. And
this is an environment where we don't walk into the
locker room and it's like, we lost the game, don't
look at him, don't say hello, or don't say hey
(35:03):
or anything to him. If we win the game, it's
and hey, how you doing, mister Snyder, how's it? Shake
your hand? Dan Snyder would stand in front of the
f and door at our locker room after every single
shame as he should he on the team. Yeah, and
if we won, he shook your hand. If we lost,
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he just looked at you. Now. Did he have his
sons in the locker room, like whatdy Johnson? Well, his
son was too busy up in the owner's box, the
owner's suitees ripping up pool tables with the pool stick,
and then the security telling them don't touch him because
this is Snyder's just let him ruin the pool table.
People saying no, little kid, don't do that. They're sitting
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there security like, nah, don't touch him. Let him do
what he wants to. Kid off the toy kid sitting
there f and that that pool table up straight, trying
to rip the material off with the pool stick. Let
him go. If that's the environment that you think is
going to lead to to you winning, then you know
you got to live with the results that come with it.
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But give God, give props and respect to Washington's new
ownership and the job those guys are doing because it's
given dan Quinn the opportunity to one do what he
does best, which is build a defense that can can
compete and can contend. But two, you know, seeing that
you have a rookie and jayde and Daniels that looks
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like he's going to be a really, really big contributor
and superstar to the National Football League. It's two pros
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Speaker 6 (37:44):
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Speaker 2 (37:49):
Guys who feel good stories for you. In case you
missed it.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Over the weekend at the p and C Championship, although
they fell short in a playoff, Charlie Woods and Tiger
Woods did have share an awesome moment where Harley sunk
his first ever hole in one fifteen year old phenom.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Great moment in case you missed it. Nice, Oh you go, LeVar,
it's your guy. Yeah, I mean, that's not my guy,
but that's very very cool that his kid, you know,
is following in his pops, you know, golf footsteps.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
I don't know that we talk about like Charlie Woods
the way we should. I mean, if you think about
some of the other like father's son combos, obviously Lebron
and Brownie, a lot of conversation about, you know those two.
Like Charlie Woods is a legit golfer, Like he's going
to be a guy you're probably gonna hear on the
PGA Tour.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
It's just it's just kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
There's not quite as much maybe in the golf world
there's more hype, but it's not like as mainstream as
maybe it should be.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
What was the closest you got to home one.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
You got close close enough though, all right, trust me,
I got so close this past summer that at that
moment I realized, I'm never gonna get one. I don't
if I didn't get that like I you know, because
some guys that will luck out, they'll hit like a
shot that's really not the greatest, but it ends up
finding its way in the hole. I hit a ball
as good as I could on number twelve at Mirfield
(39:07):
Village and it literally spun back, hit the pen, bounced out,
and I was like, that's it.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I'm never gonna have a chance at a hole in
one in my life.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Does a hole in one exist at putt putt courses?
Like if I saw someone.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Takes that seriously?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, no, well never mind, I'm not in a conversation.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
They exist, But you know, do you see the videos
of Bryson de Shambo trying to hit that tea that
shot over his house and he he kept doing it,
like I think it was like fourteen straight days he
would it would take like ten shots or whatever it was,
and he finally did it.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But he got close.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
And that guy is one of the best in the world,
and it just shows how difficult that was.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's also a ridiculous shot though, that he was doing
right over his house. What she got, Lee, That's enough,
golf guy. Well yeah, well she got case. We missed it.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Oh another congrats out to Penn State as where the
national Championshi, Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
We are Yeah, I mean Penn State, Penn State baby
volleyball national chance.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
His daughters on that team.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yes, Caroline, she's a beast. She does it. She does
a podcast with us. Yeah. Shouts out to Caroline and
the rest of them. Uh, Katie, you know Schumacher. Collie.
She she's fighting breast cancers, beating breast cancer and beat
the world to get a national time. So shouts out
to you, Katie.
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this football recap Monday. Of course, we're going
to start with the college football Playoffs, the twelve team edition. Yeah,
there was a lot of blowouts, but there was a
lot to love about it.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We will discuss.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
We're also going to have a discussion with Petros Papadakas
earlier than usual this week with the holidays. Petros is
going to join us later on here, and he's got
all sorts of thoughts on not only the college football playoff,
but Kirk Herb Street, another dog, et cetera, et cetera.
We will have another conversation as well too, about an
award that is over with in the NFL. It is
(00:35):
a wrap, the award is gone and it's the offensive
Rookie of the Year. It'll go to Jayden Daniels. We
will discuss whether or not Ben Johnson was auditioning for
the Bears job yesterday. Plus, you've got the race for
the number one pick, You've got Lee's leftovers, and you've
got an FSRI I R. It's all yours coming up
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were there? Was it as cool as it looked on television?
(01:45):
The college football playoffs?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
That was everything I'd hoped would be in more obviously
went to two separate venues. I'll let LeVar speak on
on Happy Valley, but man, it was electric.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
It was here.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Here's the thing I love the most about it is
the passion behind it. Now that comes with some unfortunate things,
For example, in particular in Columbus, Ohio, for Ohio State
and Tennessee young young Man was told that Santa's not
real by an Ohio State fan who happen to be
written from the Volunteers. There was a lot of things
(02:19):
being thrown around about the Civil War. A lot of
those things were mentioned in there, so there was definitely
a divide. There was definitely passion behind I think the
game of football and what was on the you know,
the stakes and what was.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
On the line.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
But it was awesome, like every single piece of it.
I know there's gona be people who complain about the
results of the game. We'll get to that, but I
had an absolute blast. It was the coolest thing I've seen.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, we SMU fans were pretty confident going into it.
You know. I had a few of them at my tailgate.
We were hanging out and the environment was was amazing,
Like it was almost it had a tremendous feel of nostalgia.
You know. It's just like walking in there and looking
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around and and feeling the cold and seeing like the
snow coming down a little bit. It was it just
gave you a feeling of this is truly like a
historical moment, and you could feel it like I could
feel it, and I think everybody else could feel feel
the energy in the air too, So it was it
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was pretty cool, man. And then you know, for for
it to be a game that was defined by you know,
Penn State's defense and and most most more specifically by
the linebackers, it was, man, It just was. It felt right,
It felt very very correct.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Kevin Jennings at your tailgate before the game, No, that's
what led okay.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I was just wondering what that was about. Kevin Jennings
was not on my tail because he was. He was
serving it up, he was serve in it.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It did appear, It did appear, and it was pretty
obvious that the home field advantage was real.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And I don't know if that was why.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
The blowouts happened in every single game, but it did
feel like the visiting team had a hard time either
adjusting to the conditions or just the overwhelming support and
advantage that the home team was getting. That's what it
felt like watching it. Maybe it was different in person,
but that's what it felt like watching it.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It seems it's a big difference.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
It's one of the reasons why I'd love to expand
to sixteen. And I know they probably won't. I know,
they're probably gonna go to fourteen or something else. But
sixteen would make sense because I don't know that these
teams deserve buys, you know, and I.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Think we can figure.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like, here's the reality is everyone's gonna complain about the
results of the game. Which if you're going to complain
about that, then you must not have been watching the NFL.
When you look at the average margin of victory in
the wildcard round, early rounds in the playoffs also double digits.
Those games majority of the time are not even close.
Go back to twenty twenty three, look at the playoffs,
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look at the margin of victories and those so, like,
spare me your complaints about it. The other thing is
it comes off is ridiculously hypocritical. Like we all wanted
the expansion of the playoff, We all wanted this environment,
these opportunities to be able to go to a home
playoff game, you know, this late in the year where
you've got the scenes of snow and everything else.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
And then when we get it, we're gonna complain about it.
I mean, come on, man, Like.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Have you watched the four team college football playoffs semi finals?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Those haven't been competitive either. So anyone who.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Went into these games thinking that they were going to
be extremely competitive, they must not have followed college football
or even, for that matter, watch the NFL, because that's
kind of how it's worked out. And I think if
you were being honest with yourselves, some people will take
issue with this. But all the favorites won, right. There
was no upsets, which is kind of how it's supposed
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to be.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Now.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I understand the margin of victory was, you know, pretty
big in most cases, but the truth of the matter is, like,
those are four of the best teams in college football,
and you had at least at least two teams you
would say were on the bubble in SMU and I'd
say Indiana, And then you had a team that had
three losses that earned their way in by winning the
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ACC championship in Clemson. So the truth of the matter
is you probably had three of the teams that were
fringe teams anyway.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But I just I hate to see.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
People complaining about a product in its first year that,
to me was awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And the worst part is is.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
I don't know that it's the fans so much as
there is the people who actually work in the industry,
which is what doesn't make.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Any sense to me.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
You know, everyone's kind of complaining about you know, however
the matter, what does it matter? Like we got awesome
college football environments and the next round to me is
only going to get better and better as we had
coached the national champions So I can't stand to hear
people complaining about it. We got what we wanted, that's
the expanded playoffs. Stop bitching and moaning about it.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think that's what people are just conditioned to do it.
And I think that's what it is. It's not just
college football. Yeah, in life, people are conditioned to do that,
and that's that's that's what it comes down, like the
whole Like what did you explain?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
There's no guarantees, Like you get a matchup, You get
a matchup, and either the matchup's great or it could
be a wipeout. Like there's no guarantees, but the fact
that you had the opportunity to watch it and experience it.
And I'm the same way, like I look at it
and go it's year one, like like this is the
first installment of this and it doesn't mean that there's
not going to be an upset in the next round.
(07:39):
It doesn't mean there's not going to be two upsets
next year. Maybe it'd be Chalk next year as well too,
But just the idea that well, because we're just used
to complaining, let's just find something else to complain about.
It's like, okay, then if we expand, then the team
that gets left out, you're going to complain about that,
or if there's a result.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It just that's the way it goes.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
If it's such a negative approach, it's it's a waste
time if you asked me, because at the end of
the day, those teams did something that warrant them, earned
them the right and the opportunity to compete. So at
the end of the day, if they were to lose,
they lost. If they were to win, then you're gonna
have something to complain about it as well as it
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applies to that. So the bottom line is you had
an opportunity to strap it up. You had an opportunity
to go out there and try it. I mean, we
had at length conversations about the bird that Signetti had
and how upset he was. He did his interview and
talked about what he talked about felt like they should
have had a home game, and this that and the
other and so on and so forth, and you know.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
What, I believed them.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I believed it, like, Okay, they played well this year
and they didn't show up. They didn't show up. I mean,
maybe they showed up, man, I mean I said, I
felt like Notre Dame was improving dramatically and the team
that got clipped by by Northern Illinois early on in
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the year, that team is far long gone. That's not
the same team. And I felt like they were going
to earn their way and punch a ticket into into
the playoffs. They proved that they're not a team that
was the same team that had that loss. It was
a very impressive and decisive victory. I looked at Tennessee.
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I thought Tennessee could have could have went into after
watching what what Michigan did. I thought that Tennessee had
a legit opportunity to go into Ohio and Columbus and win.
It didn't work out that way. But if people are
spending more time talking about all the product is poor,
this sucks, they shouldn't like, man, look here, man, then
(09:48):
go do something else. Go do something else, because when
it comes down to it when those kids strap up
or when they're working out, or when they're preparing and
they're talk in the class and they decide a kid
can decide to go to a school that isn't one
of the main power for schools. They can decide to
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go to those schools, and they should have the opportunity
to work their ass off. And if their record says
that the committee is going to put them into the
playoff and give them the opportunity to compete, then let
it be that. Let it be that, like all these
holier than thou conversations about they didn't belong, they didn't belong,
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Let it play out. Let it play out. How do
you get an opportunity to prove or earn the right
that they should be saying you should be there? The
only way you get an opportunity to do that is
if you get the opportunity to play. If they never
have gotten the opportunity to play, Oh, Alabama should have
been in Miami, should have been in Da Da Dah.
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If you take traditional powers and you replace the teams
that have had good years, how do they get the
opportunity to grow? So is it the rich get richer
and keep the to poor and you serve a purpose
for the season. You don't serve a purpose for anything
else further than the regular season. This is the purpose
you serve because you don't belong in the playoffs. I
(11:10):
think that's bs man. Let it play out, and it
played out. God blessed the underdog's loss. Okay, way, and
they had home games, okay, Like it was great. I
thought it was great for college sports.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And by the way, it's not even like these are
pay per view events. You didn't pay for him. So look,
the result is a result. You got what you got,
and people that are that are looking back afterwards going, oh, well,
if so and so was in that game, it would
have been different.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Tough balls.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
They didn't do enough to get there, like and you
want to blame it on the voters. It's like it's
like being pissed at somebody who advanced in your company
and you being like, man, I would do such a.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Better job of that. That's exactly what those people do.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, but you're lazy ass didn't put in the work
to get there, like so so that there's like you're
missing a key part of the conversation. So I thought
it was awesome. Man, and and I'm happy it's here.
And I thought the scene and Friday night when Julian
Love ripped off that touchdown at the beginning, Yeah, sorry
Jeremiah when he ripped off that touchdown at the beginning
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of the game. I'm watching it on television, going, you
can't get this anywhere, Like, you're not getting this in
an NBA game. You're not getting this anywhere else. To
see that place go bananas like it did the way it's.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Going bananas Where I was, God, I was in State
college and and people were going nuts. I mean it
was jam packed where I was at watching that game.
So cool, man, The whole thing was so it's exciting.
Stop trying to take the excitement out of it, Like
everything doesn't have to be that way, Like, just be
excited about the fact that teams get to compete.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Well, I think it's also and like you guys, kind
of you said, we're conditioned to just like wind and complain,
And obviously social media platforms give us the ability to
do so kind of freely, right, But it's also because
we focus so much on the results, Like we look
at the box score and we say, well, that game
was a blow.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It was like I was at Ohio State Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
At no point, at no point did Tennessee feel like
they had any shot in that game. With the exception
of this, credit Tennessee volunteers for showing up. There was
probably I would say the split was sixty forty sixty
five thirty five something like that. Yeah, there was a
There was thirty thousand plus, which is probably closer to
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seventy thirty if you do the math.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
But there was thirty.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Thousand plus Tennessee fans there, and you could tell like
they made the trip.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
They came up.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
To Columbus for it, Like you could tell, like you know,
seeing him walk around campus, seeing them just around and
even in the stadium there were sections that were rather loud.
But after that first drive for Ohio State and Jeremiah
or Jeremiah Smith in.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
The touchdown, like amazing. That was it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
And by the way, that's the Ohio State team that
I think Buckeyes fans and really anyone else who follows
college football has been wedding on all year like that's
a team that can win the national championship.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Not not the way they looked the last time out.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
And this has kind of been Ryan Day's deal is
you know when they struggled, they usually show back up.
But now it comes down to I'm not going to
say this is essentially the national championship, but Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Or Games the Rose is the best two teams.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It is like like when Ohio State plays like that,
it is. And the crazy thing is is it's just the.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
Quarterfinal and one of them is going home and the
winner is probably going to go on to win the
national championship. I would say they're probably odds on favorite
or not. You know, that's that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Or not. Maybe you know what I mean, Like, maybe
it's that one day Michigan went into Columbus and won.
Maybe it's that one day that's why you do it.
If we knew who was going to win, just just
you know, put the champion in there like hit enter boom,
(15:03):
Here's who would win because of their roster this that
don't play the game, just it enter Here's who would
have won. It crowned them the champ. That's what makes
it make sense. And for what it's worth, let's think
about it. Penn State does not They they go three
(15:23):
and out, first drive, SMU go straight down the field
on Penn State. Their first drift, they drop a ball
that could have been that should have been a first
down touchdown, and it got away from them after that,
like there were turnovers, it got away. Who knows what
(15:45):
the complexity or the you know what that game looks like.
If they get that touchdown early in the game, it
would have quiet the crowd. The crowd would have been like, oh,
here we go. We can't win the big game. Everybody
would have been sitting there are we going to hear
boo birds? Are we gonna hear people say Franklin needs
to go? It was a drop away from that place,
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having the air sucked straight out And I was there
because my air the breath left my body when he
dropped the ball, like thank god he dropped that ball.
So I'm just saying there's the opportunity for somebody think
about the level, Like, let me tell you something. Oregon
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is not coming out to lose that game, because everybody
who paid attention was like, dang, Oregon beat them, Oregon
beat o House State in Ohio State ain't going in
that game to lose because they allowed Oregon to get it.
They are going to beat the s out of each
other in that game. Who's to say that they're not
going to be banged up or fatigued. There might be
(16:54):
fatigue by the time you get to the championship round.
There might be I don't know, who knows. I know
that's going to be a throttle. That game is going
to be a straight up tilt, especially the way the
first one ended where you had the clock miss man
and they're both they're both perceived. Did you see how arrogantly,
(17:18):
oh how you know the flag planters. Did you see
how they were like kind of like taunting the Tennessee players. Yeah, like,
don't don't don't act like bitches in moments where don't
act like a victim in moments where it didn't go
to where you want it. And then you you get
to a place where you're treating other teams the way
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they treated them in that moment, like like just just
ride or die with it.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I found myself a couple of times, both in the
Notre Dame MA and the Penn State game early on,
because you mentioned the drive when they're going down the field,
I'm like, oh boy, uh oh, like, uh here it goes.
And then when Riley Leonard's pass got deflected and picked
off early on in that game. I'm like, oh God,
that's all they need, Like you just need to give
Indiana some hope. But it was the fact that it
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was the stage and it was the moment, and you're
living and dying early on with every single play because
you realize every play, the magnitude of it in that
spot was. That's why I like when people want to
get buried in the weeds with the complaints. I look
at it and go, you're you missed a whole lot
of great football there because you got caught up in
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the box.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
For yeah, I I do. I do have to acknowledge
a few bad beats. One SMU at midfield with two
forty five to forty.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Six left.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
And the usually this is typically like how SMU is played.
We saw in the Agency Championship game. They were down,
came back, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Push pushed Clems into the wire.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
But for anyone who had the over in that game,
that's out of fifty two to fifty two and a half,
total score is thirty eight to ten at this point,
so forty eight and Rett Lashly and this is for
a team, by the way, didn't win the conference that
was a fringe team doesn't play out the game like. Instead,
they take out Kevin Jennings and they put in a backup,
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which at that point I'm thinking to myself, okay, like
there's maybe a shot, but the over is probably dead.
I had a buddy who was Alas sitting here watching
it with and he just goes ballistic. It goes irate, right,
and it was about, you know whatever the drive went
down to. It was like a two minute warning, fourth
and twelve. They punt, and I get it. You know,
you're down so much there's not any chance that you're
(19:33):
gonna be able to come back and probably win. There's
probably a less than one percent chance. But to not
play it out it kind of bothered me. Like I
understand there's even a player's safety issue to some of that.
Kevin Jennings got kind of beat up in that game
a bit, but it wasn't like you like solidified your
(19:53):
spot there and in a moment where it's like it's
about competition to punt. No different, by the way, no
different than Kurt Signetti making the same decision down three scores, midfield,
fourth down, choosing the punt, and I understand his rationale
because the offense wasn't doing anything all day. But the
game's already over. Bro, you're not getting the ball back
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three times. I mean, that's your best shot of having
any chance.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Whatsoever of winning. I was extremely disappointed.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
If there was one thing I was upset about was
the fact that you had two teams, probably the two
teams that you wanted to make a case who didn't
deserve to be there.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Both their head coaches waved the white.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Flag, and I did hate seeing that. I hated seeing
that from Indiana. I hated seeing it from SMU. Not
just forget the betting standpoint of it, I hated seeing
how they manage that in the end because again not
saying that it would or wouldn't have been a better
matchup with Old miss or Bama, whoever you want to
include from the SEC.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
But I do think those coaches.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
I do think Kitlyn de Bor, I do think Lane
Kiffin even getting their butt kicked, we'll play that thing out.
I I don't think they're just gonna roll over and saying, yeah,
let's punt. That was That was the one disappointing thing
that I would point to and say it will give
the committee. I think in the future, maybe a little
bit of pause. I was saying, like, all right, like
(21:21):
we need to make sure we get teams in here too,
who understand this isn't a gift, like we feel like
you don't play.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
They're like, what are you going for? And for frank,
line them up?
Speaker 5 (21:34):
That was by We're going one of the worst decisions too,
that got completely built out by the pick six completely.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Line them up. We're going. We're going for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
We're going for it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
We're playing d We're gonna play defense. Line them up,
We're going. It was it was. It was a questionable call,
but hey we went forward. And by the way, how
cold we stay college? Because I sent you that picture?
Very cold? It looked like I beer, yeah, right, Like
it looked like there was no human life that won.
Any part is telling you that that it looked like
(22:08):
a throwback scene. I don't know what it looked. I
don't know what a throwback scene in reality looks like
because I wasn't here, But it just it looked like
the videos that they showing, like our Sports Museum, almost
like black and white. That's said, you look miserable, dude. Y'all,
y'all saw what coach Saban said to him. They was
(22:29):
interviewing the quarterback. He said, you got a hundred and
some thousand, you got the weather, and you got the
depend state defense. By the looks of it, is it
the weather because you're blowing on your hands. You're blowing.
He's doing the interview blowing in his hands to keep
his hands warm. Bruh, that wind chill factor had that
thing on blast on blast. I'm telling you you couldn't
(22:54):
breathe that joy you know how to air be hit
you in the face like the hawk was out. It
was out. It was out. A bad boy was hitting you.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
By the way, has anyone checked on Lane Kiffin after
Joel Clad put him in a body bag this this
past weekend?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Basically, Lane was trying to stay a case for the
games not being competitive and I think obviously alluding to
old miss maybe you should have been in or maybe
even just an SEC team, which Clad basically responded something
along the lines of, you know, if you have played
as well as you tweet, your team would be in
the playoff, which yeah, which which is I mean, kind
(23:41):
of a compliment but also at the same time kind
of true too. You know, like, don't lose to Kentucky
and you're probably in the playoff. I shouldn't say probably
you would have been, but that's not where Old.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Miss is at.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
And you could make that case, by the way, with
a number of SEC teams like like your pick your
loss for Bama.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
But that's the one disappointing thing saying it is for
me to hear.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
At least.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
It's like when you hear coaches who are part of
this process almost like they're still politicing, Like, dude.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It's over, Like they picked the teams.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, it's over. We would have been way better.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
They're yeah, like worry about Duke. Let's just go be
Duke in the bowl game. Otherwise you're gonna be eating
those words.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, I don't know. Dang it was.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That was fun man, fun weekend. Good for college football.
It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
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Speaker 2 (24:29):
We've got the usuals coming up later on.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
We got another edition of In case you missed it,
We've also got our FSR I R. It's a special
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(24:53):
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Speaker 3 (25:05):
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That'll be yours here again from the tire rack dot
Com Studios. Ladies and gentlemen, not that it wasn't already,
but the offensive Rookie of the Year race over that's
(25:42):
a wrap, folks. To put it a bit, Jaden Daniels
and the Washington Commandos have. I mean, they had that
little stretch there where they were just trying to rid
themselves of whatever change during the Steelers game, like I
don't know what, like something showed up there or somebody
was present, and it kind of threw them into a
three game skid.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But the Commanders, I am not the mush the bush.
I'm not the mush at all.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I mean, Jalen Hurts injury or not, that's pretty impressive,
especially considering you were a minus four in the turnover
differential and somehow they won that game.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
A horrible how many times they fumbled? Man, Like, it's horrible.
It's the brand new Washington Commanders, man, I just say this.
And watching that game and watching the way it went,
I was like, you know, Washington hadn't had a signature
win all season, they hadn't beat a good team all season,
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and it looked as though they were on that same
trajectory in that game. Now, a lot of people made
the you know, the statement that well, you lost Jalen Hurts.
You lost Jalen Hurts, you didn't have Jalen Hurts, and
while all agree with that, I think if they have
Jalen Hurts, they still find a way to win that game.
And not to mention, if Davante Adams doesn't drop that
(26:55):
Davonte Smith, if he doesn't drop that ball, you know,
they don't even get the ball back and have the
opportunity to try to go down and win the game.
But it all happened that way. And you're talking about
a Philadelphia defense that's a highly rated defense, the highly
most highly rated defense, and you weren't. You weren't stopping them,
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And not only did you not stop them, but you
didn't overcome what was it five turnovers? Yeah, you didn't
overcome five turn turnovers as a defense. So to me,
I felt as though people say it's more about Jalen
Hurts being out and the Philadelphia Eagles not playing as
well as they should have, and I'll I'll push back
(27:39):
on that, and I'll say that this is a team
in the Washington Commanders that showed resilience, they showed fight,
no quit They they and by the way, Jalen Hurts
was not missing because Jalen Hurts just wasn't playing. Jalen
Hurts got knocked out of the game. So that's that's
a that's a result of how heart they were playing,
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they were hitting that you could tell that there were
implications connected to this game, playoffs wise, seeding wise, and
the Washington Commanders came out on top. Give them their props,
and give props to Jade and Daniels being a rookie
and that's scenario and rushing forty yards that he did
and delivering when he did so that that team could
win the game.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
I think they're two separate conbos.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Like there's no doubt in my mind, Jade Daniels has
been the best player as a rookie this season, and
maybe right and below it is probably Brock.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Bowers, if we're gonna be honest with how we look
at it.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
This game though, turned when Jalen Hurts did go out
of the game, and even Kenny Pickett, who you know
was being I think he had X rays on his
ribs after the game as well, So I don't even
know how how healthy he was even playing in the
backup role. So I think you can you could acknowledge
both things, like it's just the best that it could
have taken from the Philadelphia Eagles for four quarters. No,
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but your point, that's kind of how these games work out.
Like it's not you know, Washington's fault that you know,
Philly you know got beat up or your Hurts gets
knocked out. And then even Picktts, you know, battling through
some stuff too. So that's neither here nor there. At
the end of the day, they overcame it. They came
back at a huge, you know, really fourth quarter, and
Jade Daniels has been everything Washington had hoped he would be.
(29:21):
And I think it puts a lot of pressure on teams. Like,
if you're really looking at the bigger conversation, this is
in one year's time, right, Dan Quinn comes in as
a head coach, we have a new ownership group, Jade
Daniels as your quarterback. They're turning this team into a
playoff team, into a contender. And every one of these
other games that you got to watch, whether it's the
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New York Giants so we'll talk about or you know
Las Vegas, who obviously they need to find a quarterback
even though they won. You start to look at some
of these other franchising teams and go, that's the expectation
now like there's other owners looking around at Jadeen Daniels
and Dan Quinn in Washington saying, why can't we do this?
(30:03):
Why can't we find that guy? Why can't we find
a coach who can help us turn this around in
year one?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Why do we need to wait?
Speaker 5 (30:11):
And that's the pressure that I think this time of year,
you see as you look at some owners who are
probably thinking, you know, hey, i'd like I'd like the
guy hired, But you know, why aren't things working out?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Why are we losing?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Why are we drafting at the top of the draft
and it's going to be Schadu or whoever wherever he
ends up going, and they have to have the faith
that that quarterback and their current head coach or a
guy they're gonna go higher if they move on from him,
can turn this thing around. Like as as awesome as
it is for Jaden Daniels in Washington, all the fans too,
I think you've been dying for something like this for
(30:45):
a while. There's also the conversation of like it puts
a lot of pressure and a lot of other teams
out there too, who aren't winning football games that are
trying to find the next Jayden Dangiels.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And also it kind of puts to bed the whole well,
if you if you're drafting a quarterback, it's got to
be an offensive minded guy. Dan Quinn is completely turned
around that program, that organization, and so like to me,
it goes, don't just hire whoever would be the best
fit for the quarterback. Who's the best best fit for
the team, like the best fit for the culture there.
(31:14):
And they've done an amazing job. I mean they are
one and done in the playoffs. Like, let's not get it,
you know, twisted here. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't
go that far. They're not that's not a bad team.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
They're the Indiana of the NFL. Oh wow, how about
that shot? Let me I'm not even going to entertain
that how I'll further it. But we had a conversation
not too long ago about about what would we have
got if if Patrick Mahomes or if Caleb Williams had
(31:44):
gone to Kansas City, what we have gotten another Patrick Mahomes?
And probably the answer we we said was yes. So
the bottom line to me is yeah, people are looking
at what that looks like to be able to bring
in a quarterback, or you bring in a quarterback and
a coach and you say, this is what we can
get if we do that. But it comes down to
how you're running your organization. And Caleb Williams could have
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probably been far and away the offensive rookie of the
year had he gone to a better situation and a
better scenario. He has still done some excellent, amazing things.
You just see the youth in his game. You see
that there are places where he can have more development
or have more things that he needs to work on.
(32:32):
And what does that look like if he's somewhere else?
And so to me, you could sit there and be
witty Johnson and say, man, we brought in Aaron Rodgers.
That didn't work. Why can't we do bring in a
new coach, bringing a new quarterback, and we'll be okay.
Look in the mirror. You want to know who's not
going to lie to you, the person looking right back
(32:54):
at you when you look into the mirror.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Wait, so you can't lie to yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You can't lie to yourself. You can, but yourself knows
the truth. You know the truth and bottom size all
the time. But he knows the truth.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
You can try to hold on, hold on, Lee lies
to himself all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, that might be the only exception to the rule
out of anything and everybody that I would say, you
can't lie to yourself, Lee might be the only exception.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I mean, you need practice. You got to start on
yourself for you can light anybody else.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
They say that habitual liars can convince themselves that their
own lives are true. Like, I get that, But looking
in that mirror, you still know what it is that
you had to do. What is going on? Hammers everywhere,
bang bang everywhere on TV Road Trip? Okay, it's great film.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I remember that movie. I mean, is that the one
with Tom Green? Yes, when I remember he holds up the.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Underwear, whoa lous right.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Whoa.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Totally derailed my thought process. But all I'll say is
if you're going, if you're going to look at what
you want the results to be, then you got to
give that coach and you got to give that quarterback
the environment to have the opportunity to be able to
accomplish that. If you're not going to create an environment
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where it's conducive to that type of growth, Because I
tell you right now, you can feel, you can feel
it if it's negative, if it's positive, if there's like
a true essence of this is what we need, this
is what we want. This is like do what you do.
When I got to Washington and I went and visited
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it was it was very evident. You could feel it.
Dan Quinn has walked into a situation where dan Quinn
can coaches coaches and they can coach their players. And
this is an environment where we don't walk into the
locker room and it's like, we lost the game, don't
look at him, don't say hello, or don't say hey
(35:03):
or anything to him. If we win the game, it's
and hey, how you doing, mister Snyder, how's it? Shake
your hand? Dan Snyder would stand in front of the
f and door at our locker room after every single
shame as he should he on the team. Yeah, and
if we won, he shook your hand. If we lost,
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he just looked at you. Now. Did he have his
sons in the locker room, like whatdy Johnson? Well, his
son was too busy up in the owner's box, the
owner's suitees ripping up pool tables with the pool stick,
and then the security telling them don't touch him because
this is Snyder's just let him ruin the pool table.
People saying no, little kid, don't do that. They're sitting
(35:46):
there security like, nah, don't touch him. Let him do
what he wants to. Kid off the toy kid sitting
there f and that that pool table up straight, trying
to rip the material off with the pool stick. Let
him go. If that's the environment that you think is
going to lead to to you winning, then you know
you got to live with the results that come with it.
(36:08):
But give God, give props and respect to Washington's new
ownership and the job those guys are doing because it's
given dan Quinn the opportunity to one do what he
does best, which is build a defense that can can
compete and can contend. But two, you know, seeing that
you have a rookie and jayde and Daniels that looks
(36:29):
like he's going to be a really, really big contributor
and superstar to the National Football League. It's two pros
and a cup of Joe here.
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Speaker 3 (37:29):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
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Speaker 2 (37:38):
And but we turned it over to our executive producer
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Speaker 6 (37:44):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas, good morning Brady, Good
morning LeVar.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Guys who feel good stories for you. In case you
missed it.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Over the weekend at the p and C Championship, although
they fell short in a playoff, Charlie Woods and Tiger
Woods did have share an awesome moment where Harley sunk
his first ever hole in one fifteen year old phenom.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Great moment in case you missed it. Nice, Oh you go, LeVar,
it's your guy. Yeah, I mean, that's not my guy,
but that's very very cool that his kid, you know,
is following in his pops, you know, golf footsteps.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
I don't know that we talk about like Charlie Woods
the way we should. I mean, if you think about
some of the other like father's son combos, obviously Lebron
and Brownie, a lot of conversation about, you know those two.
Like Charlie Woods is a legit golfer, Like he's going
to be a guy you're probably gonna hear on the
PGA Tour.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
It's just it's just kind of interesting.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
There's not quite as much maybe in the golf world
there's more hype, but it's not like as mainstream as
maybe it should be.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
What was the closest you got to home one.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
You got close close enough though, all right, trust me,
I got so close this past summer that at that
moment I realized, I'm never gonna get one. I don't
if I didn't get that like I you know, because
some guys that will luck out, they'll hit like a
shot that's really not the greatest, but it ends up
finding its way in the hole. I hit a ball
as good as I could on number twelve at Mirfield
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Village and it literally spun back, hit the pen, bounced out,
and I was like, that's it.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
I'm never gonna have a chance at a hole in
one in my life.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Does a hole in one exist at putt putt courses?
Like if I saw someone.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Takes that seriously?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
No, no, well never mind, I'm not in a conversation.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
They exist, But you know, do you see the videos
of Bryson de Shambo trying to hit that tea that
shot over his house and he he kept doing it,
like I think it was like fourteen straight days he
would it would take like ten shots or whatever it was,
and he finally did it.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But he got close.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
And that guy is one of the best in the world,
and it just shows how difficult that was.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's also a ridiculous shot though, that he was doing
right over his house. What she got, Lee, That's enough,
golf guy. Well yeah, well she got case. We missed it.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Oh another congrats out to Penn State as where the
national Championshi, Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
We are Yeah, I mean Penn State, Penn State baby
volleyball national chance.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
His daughters on that team.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yes, Caroline, she's a beast. She does it. She does
a podcast with us. Yeah. Shouts out to Caroline and
the rest of them. Uh, Katie, you know Schumacher. Collie.
She she's fighting breast cancers, beating breast cancer and beat
the world to get a national time. So shouts out
to you, Katie.
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