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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar, Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas, Knox with
you here. Coming up on this Thursday edition, the Great
Albert Brear is gonna stop by to find out what
the hell's going on with Aaron Rodgers walking the beaches
of Malibu, Russell Wilson, et cetera, et cetera. We're also
going to take a dive in a stab at that
trying to figure out what is going on and why
do team seemingly want no part of Russell Wilson. Levar's
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got a theory and it makes sense. We've also got
Cooper Cup. He is on his way out of la
but he is on his way to an Amish community
near You will break down who the leading contenders are.
We've got another edition of In case you missed it.
We've got Josh Allen talking about saving money for the
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Do people people out here act like it's hard to do.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Just admiring. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Meanwhile, the rest of the country drives to sleep and
ice and blacknow and all those tough that I mean,
just come on, does not have a comparison.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's not.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
I'll be the first one to tell you. But I
will say this. I did almost turn around and go
back home, just because, just because I know people do
use that as an excuse in California.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I almost sipped around and went back home.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
You softened up?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
No, I really haven't you ate, dope, don't you've softened up?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
I drove like I drove a hydro, played twice on
my way in twice.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
What do you what do you drive? Don't you have four? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Drive?
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah? Yeah, I got a defender. But but but the
point is that it doesn't. All don't bother me. I
am a big MIC taught me how to drive.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
We went.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
We went into North the North Hills, Indian. Come on,
sunn You know what I'm saying, shunning?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hey man.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
They took me at North Hills parking lot, broad drove
in all all terrain, all weather. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. I'm saying shunning. I don't call you shun
because you're you're my shun. I call you shun because
you shine like one.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Anyway, Well, hey, h's.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
We are still playing the waiting game, as are the
Pittsburgh Steelers on who's going to be their quarterback moving forward?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Free agency?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean, the real juicy stuff for free agency seem
to have all been filled out and good and dead
and buried, and everybody's off and running and having press conferences,
and yet still just kind of waiting around Rogers mulling
over his decision. Russell Wilson waiting to see Rogers does
I's got.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
A while you waiting Russ. I just gotta wait to
see what Aaron's going to do.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I stayed, what a humbling couple of years for him.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Man, Hang, He's like, he is, hey, well we'll take
him if if the other guy says, you know that
he's gonna go elsewhere. Dude.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
When out he was like, you're such a hater or
for what you said about Russ and the love is blind?
I was like, how am I wrong for that? Basically
he wants this, but you can't have that. You're not
good enough to just have a starting job, like wherever
you want. You gotta wait to see who Who's like, well,
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we'll take Russ.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
That's what you're waiting.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Go on, that's not a It's not the most horrible
thing when you're talking about Okay, if it's Aaron Rodgers
that you're doing the comparison to at this point in
Aaron Rodgers' career. Do we know how much is out
of the toothpaste too? No, we don't. Do we know
how much is left?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
No, we don't.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
We just know he's Aaron Rodgers. That's what we know,
and and that's still right now for the moment. Based
upon how he played finished out the season last year,
I think it's still enough to say that the intrigue
is there for him to be a good player for
somebody's team, and more so than than Russell Wilson. I
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don't think that should be offending, like offensive now, I
will say what's offensive is the Jets took to Justin
fields and they were with fields they did they not
come to the Russell off offer Russell, No, we take Justin.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's like get picked in the yard for for a pickup.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Game, like uh uh uh pick pick me, pick me?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Uh would take Justin.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Was there ever any interest though in the Jets and
Russell Wilson did?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I don't think it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Well, I'm just saying I don't think at any point
there's been interest on either sides.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know. If I know, I don't have a job.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm interesting Russe's agent calls the Jets like, hey, what
about Russ?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Hey, hello, you guys have to understand this though too.
How much did Russell Wilson play for last year? Like
it was he got his body from that. Yeah, they
he still got paid.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
It was really closer to like almost forty million.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, and the Steelers were on the hook for what
like two.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
How much did the Jets pay justin Fields, I mean
twenty so now laters, they paid him like and I
think twenty per year at least under this contract. So
there might have also been a thought of, like, Russell
Wilson's got a price wants to pay for and Jonas
you've detailed this, like he has not played bad. I
mean he gave their offensive lift at least initially last
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year in Pittsburgh. He didn't play bad as last year
in Denver despite all those circumstances with Sean Payton, who
I mean really didn't didn't like him.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
He didn't like him, He did not like them.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
That's more of the concern that I think there is
in regards to like, why is it that more teams
aren't in on Russell will So, I mean Cleveland's obviously
you know making sure that maybe he's a potential option
for them, but I just don't think there's enough cap
space or room. But when you look at the past
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couple of stops he's had, there's reports at the end
of last year he was rubbing Arthur Smith the wrong
way and or maybe they butted heads a little bit
in regards to the offense at the end of the
year when they started to struggle. Then you go back
to the Denver Broncos and for whatever reason, I mean
him and Sean Payton, it's just like Sean Payton, I
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guess put up with it for a year, but there
is something going on there.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
He loves Seattle.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
If Russell Wilson told me to say run past to
me on the sideline, I'd be like, bitch, get out
of my space.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
So that's part of what I think is interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
About the quarterback musical chairs is if you've got Rogers
Wilson's cousins, how do you think teams are ranking those three?
Even though Cousins hasn't been released, it looks like they're
going to pay.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
His ten million dollars bonus and.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Potentially be an expensive backup if they can't find a
trade for him. But let's say, let's just say that
Cousins is a part of that mix.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Now, what was his injury, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, well he was coming off an achilles.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
He's he just got benched. He just got he wasn't
an injury that he got. Well, he got the yips, heart,
he started turning the ball over.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
He got banged up in a game against right he
got hit. Yeah, and he never was quite the same,
and he tried to downplay it. And then the Saints
acknowledge after the season, yeah, or the Falcons acknowledged after
the season. Yeah, he wasn't really the same afterwards, and
that sort of led to, you know, the decline.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
But listen, Bolly, Yeah, I don't know that he was
lighting on a fire either way. But Cousins is intriguing
because for some reason, he seems to be a serviceable
option and a very safe seemingly a very safe option
in terms of personality, locker room integration. He just seems
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like he would be the type of guy you want
in your locker room.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Russ.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
He's the number one guy you're looking at.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I think, if again, I think it's by by market.
Who's left, who's Left, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
New York, The Giants, the Giants.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
If I'm the Giants, I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers first.
If I'm the Steelers, I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers first. Hell,
if I'm Tennessee, I'm probably looking at Aaron Rodgers is
probably first. Now I think it's debatable for second. I
think it's debatable for second, And I think that that
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debatable would come down to are we willing to have
a meet and greet with with these two guys. I
would be very cautious of hiring a quarterback that is
now seeing himself or doesn't want to get hit and
is making mistakes off of being nervous in the pocket,
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being nervous by the pass rush, feeling that pressure. I
would be more nervous about that than I would be
the personality traits. I'd rather take a more abrasive or
whatever you want to call whatever you would want to
call it, personality traits wise, I'd be more willing to
deal with a wild card personality wise than a guy
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that isn't willing to take a hit anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Who's got more left? Like?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Who do you see playing longer? Rogers or Russell Wilson.
Like to me, I think Rusk plays longer if he
gets the opportunity. And Rogers has been open about the
fact that, hey, listen, you know, maybe last year would
have been his final year he decided he wanted to
come back, but you know, in all likelihood, this year
looks like it might be his final year depending on
how the season goes. Feels like he wants to play longer.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
And it was thirty six too.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, and and there's five years of difference, and to
what you were saying, also, like how many guys leave
on bad terms three straight times? And then it's like
I don't worry about it, give him another shot, Like
it just there is at some point it's not well
it was Seattle or while it was Denver or while
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it was Pittsburgh. There there's gotta be a feeling around
the league that Russell Wilson's just a pain in the ass.
Like there's gotta be because there's no other explanation as
to why he's sitting around waiting to see whether or
not Rogers wants to play again. Who it's for And
I'll take whatever's like.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
You know, being a pain and an ass part is
when you don't know you're a pain in the ass.
That's one self awareness. That's when it's the worst. I
would assume. I've never met Russell Wilson, so I don't
want to judge him. He just comes across as the
type dude that doesn't know that he rubbed you the
wrong way because in his mind he's like, really a.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Good dude, nice guy.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Probably yeah, and I'll say it again, for the times
I've been around him, I think what happens, and there's
there's people who do this and they're like this, you know,
Tim Tebow was like that where I mean, I think
that probably is more the penunciation is really tibo.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
I don't know, but I don't give a den. I
thought it was funny the way you said it. So
go let's stay with Tobos.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
We refer to him in that Tim Tebow he was
one of those people too that I think, you know,
probably lacked a little bit of an understanding of you know,
some of the way he tried to play quarterback, the
way he tried to be a teammate.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
It rubbed some guys the wrong way.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Now, the reality is some guys don't care because they
are who they are and and they're genuine in that.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I think Russell is similar in.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That sense, where there's people who watch him operator watch
from around him.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
They're like, many this feels fake or he can't be
like this all the time. It's like, yeah he is.
I mean, there's people and this is what I've learned,
like the older I've gotten is there's just people in
life who our characters.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
I mean, like, for example, we have on Pete Prisco.
You know, he's a character, Like like people people think
that he comes on our radio show on Tuesdays, and
how he acts as like a shtick or for radio
or something. That is how he is. It doesn't matter
if I was in the studio with him and we
walked right outside, he'll he'll be giving it to the
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Italian restaurant that he ate the night before and why
it was overpriced, that it should have been this much,
and what they did wrong with whatever it was, or
he hated the Kenolis. At the end, it's it's like,
that's just who he is. He's a character. There are
plenty of guys that've been Tim Brando is one of
the funniest human beings I've ever been around, and and
he is who he is, like like Timmy Bee is
a good dude, He's got a warm heart, and people
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will be like, man is that guy?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Like yeah, Like like Timmy Be, he's just a character.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
So I've found that out more in life, where I
think there's some people who just feel convicted and who
they are in some cases like who's God God's called
them to be, or who they are as a leader
or a player, and they don't want to change that,
Like they're like, this is who I am and maybe
they can't change that or they don't want to. But
I would say the thing you brought up, LeVar, and
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when we talk about like rubbing people the wrong way,
I think it's just more of a like people don't
feel like it's genuine.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
I think that's more of the.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
That's more of the sentiment that I think players, you know,
felt like maybe a little bit in Seattle during the
short stint I was there, or even whether it was
with Tibau or whoever else, like you get a sense
of like, oh, they don't feel like that's really who
they are now. I would argue that some of the
people I've been around, like whether it's tim or it's
Russell like, yeah, they are, Like that's how they are,
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that's just who they are, and it's hard for other
people to accept it because they don't live their lives
the same way. So to your point, like, I think
that's where the conflict comes, is like maybe they don't
always adhere to all the social norms. Maybe they don't
always you know, do all the same things off the field,
or do all the things the same things in the building.
However they operate and it rubs guys the wrong way.
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So my thing is like I don't really care. In
the end of the day, everyone's you know, pushing together
to to go try to win and be successful. But
it is interesting now that from Seattle to Denver to
you know, you know, obviously his past year in Pittsburgh,
it's like, for some reason, there's something that's happening that
is causing him not to be a guy that who's
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won a Super Bowl, bended to has played at a
really high level, and even the past couple of years
gave a lift to Pittsburgh, didn't play that bad in Denver.
Like you go back and look at you're like, man,
it's it's kind of interesting how it just it's rubbed
some people the wrong way for some reason. And again,
it doesn't make a lot of sense. I'm not exactly
sure what it is. But I'm also I also haven't
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been around him in a long time. So you were
you around him when he was married? Yes, yes, I
mean he came to my wedding like we were. You know,
I remember talking him about when things were, you know,
he was gonna get a divorce. Like it's oh no, no,
the second marriage. No, And that's the thing. It's like, well, yeah,
I'm not not.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
At that point.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I mean, that could have changed all of us.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
I mean, I'm not going to sit there and tell
tell him he's wrong for feeling the way he feels.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
In life right now, exonerated in all charge.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I just said, I ain't gonna hold him accountable if
he guilty. If I got her hyping me up every morning,
I might come across the tack. I might come across
the tad bit confident and abrasive to a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
My goodie, my goodie, my good He's.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Good, I mean, and she's willing to do drills at
the White House.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Bruh. She took her heels.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Off and she let her man hand the ball off
to him and she went through them, those those tackle dummies.
And I'm just saying, I'm just saying I would be
hyped up two. I would be pumped up two. That's
all I'm gonna say. And you know what, And I
don't care if you don't like me as long as
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my family does. I mean, you ain't gonna pay me
enoughing not feel the way I feel today. Today I
woke up, it was a sunny day out even though
it someon isn't up yet.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Do you think some jealousy there, No, you just never know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Man, You know, you could be you know, the guy
I had it all. I mean, bruh.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Guys that seemingly have it all and have a certain
type of way about them. Then they come across like
like Russ could come across, in my estimation, maybe as
like maybe a Bible thumper. You know, you know, guys
in the locker room aren't really keen on Bible thumpers
at all. Like you're either all in with the Bible
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thumpers or you're like it's like like dang, you gotta
avoid you gotta you gotta avoid certain type of personalities
in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Man, he seems to.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Be like he he thumps the Bible and at the
same time got a badass wife.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Like, let's just call a spade a spade.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
So if you're telling the dude, don't drink, don't smoke,
don't use drugs, like live right, live for the Lord,
go to church and get your your your daily you know,
prayer in your your stuff like that. And I mean
some people might be looking at him like, hey, bruh,
that's a little too much man, back up off me.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You know the.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Coaches included, Hey, coaches be at work because they don't
want to be at home. I've seen some of the
people that these coaches have drug out to them. I say,
they're at work because they don't want to be at home.
Say it again, they're at work because they don't want
to be at home. And then you see what they done,
brought to one of these awards banquets, and then you'd
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be like, that was your choice, y'all chose one another.
Don't be getting mad at catch that walk up in
there and you like, God, Dann like, don't get mad
at him, because I can guarantee you I've seen Sierra
in person.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I can guarantee you. I'm not familiar.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
Le me what Russell Wilson walks into the room. Cats,
You know what the first thing the big time cats
are doing. The guys that are all pros and and
and future Hall of famers, you know what, they're sitting
there thinking why she ain't with me?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Why why she with him? You know what? The rest
of them aren't thinking, how do he do that? You
know what Russe is thinking, she's with me. That's really
what it is. That's good. I mean, I would not
be surprised if that.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Plays a part of it, doesn't play a part in
all of it. I'm just says, good for you, Russ.
You keep doing you. You damn right, you keep being you,
keep being you, Russ. And you take care of your
chicken You dig what I'm saying, take care of your chickens, player,
or let nobody mess with you. You doing well in life, broh,
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I congratulate you. I wouldn't be one of the dudes
in there hating. I'd be right there stepping right with you.
Believe you me. But God day, it could be a
reason because I have seen some of the uh. I
have seen some of the spouses that ain't always the case.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Sometimes you'd be like, you're a good looking dude, brother,
that what was your thinking? Damn was there high school? Sweetheart?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
You don't have good decision making skills. You guys got
any cats or just cataracts? What you was looking at?
Speaker 6 (20:55):
They say they all groupies once you start making money.
I had to go or the one that wasn't going
to try to get me. Nah, bro, that is not
a good enough excuse for you to have made the
decision that you made here in this situation. Look, your
kids came out looking pretty good though, like it worked
out good for you, but you ain't trying to go
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home though.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I mean so, so we've gotten to the bottom of this.
Uh so listen, I'm glad we cleared that up now.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Man, it could play apart. You don't be honest, like
you just I'm being funny, but it could play a party.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
His total life persona could be the very reason why
teams are turned off by and he has the slightest
idea of why it is why do people not like me?
And sometimes that's a sad commentary because.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
He s right, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I mean, it could that that word would probably be
included in there. That word would would would certainly if
you did a deep dive on it. I can guarantee
you that word surfaces somewhere along the way. It surfaces
somewhere along the way. It's not every day that you
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have the life that Russell Wilson has. I mean, just
be clear on it. Everybody ain't going to get away
withoud coming to a game with with a prom shiny
suit on and shiny shoes and a bow tie, and
and you're married to Sierra dig dig all right, you
ain't getting away with wearing that shiny suit and you
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ain't landing a Sierra. You gotta live with it, and
so does russ y'all both got to do it.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So there you go. Yeah, well, glad would clear that up.
It is you're welcome.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
That was a locker room talk right there. Exactly what
that was?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
That was this segment use it a That was.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
A segment that was legit locker room talk from there.
That is, if you were sitting there after your workout
after practice, you'd be hearing some of these old heads
talks say that's what they be saying.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
This was locker room talk.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
There you go, thank Master presidents. What they'd be saying
it is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox,
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Speaker 1 (23:39):
Or wash your hands.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
Maybe that's why they had Autumn written now I'm really
starting or.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
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Somebody would like to get involved.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
There's currently a situation in sports that doesn't seem to
be progressing well. Many people are upset, but somebody wants
to try and save the day. And it's somebody you
wouldn't expect. That'll be yours here a little over fifteen
minutes from now here on FSR. So what's the issue
with the Cincinnati Bengals here. They have not gotten a
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deal done with Trey Hendrickson. They've given him permission to
go look at, you know, potential at their suitors. If
if you can get a bigger deal and there's a
trade that could be had. T Higgins got the franchise tag,
yet teams are calling up with big offers. Reportedly, that's
been the story over the past few days. I'm just
saying this, In a perfect world, the Bengals end up
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losing both of them. Jamar Chase gets the perfect war. Yeah, well,
I mean it's the perfect It's the appropriate ending to
a story that is drug on for the longest time,
the Cincinnati Bengals trying to figure out how they can
nickel and dime their way to.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
A Super Bowl. That would be the appropriate You got
to wait it out.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Okay, you gotta wait everybody out to get the price
you want.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Take the chance, or you could just keep your own
players that you drafted.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
I think we're past that point in the new league year.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Don't They got to wait though, to see if somebody
is going to match the tag that they put on
on Higgins.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
That would be for Higgins, right, But it's not even
so much about matching the tag. It's probably about, you know,
if they've given him the opportunity to go talk to
their teams about a long term deal, if the Bengals
aren't willing to, it probably has a little do with that.
I think what's interesting about it is Jamar Chase is
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the first domino to fall. He needs a long term deal.
The sooner you do it the better, because he's still
in his rookie deal, which means you can you can
work in like your cap allocation to that specific play
or even position, if you've got, hey, a fifth year
to play with, and what the franchise tag would look
like if we want that route. That's usually the conversation
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you're having with the player in the agent because you're
saying to them, hey, this is what we can do
all right, like, this is probably worst case scenario for
both of us, but this is what the framework of
the deal will really look like, and then we can
have another conversation about what a realistic long term extension
looks like. And so once they start going through jumping
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through those hoops, they finally get that deal done, then
I think you start to see something happen with the
other two, whether it's a long term deal with t Higgins,
which they've obviously got what until July to figure that
out if they're gonna do it, or a potential deal
with it, they're gonna trade him somewhere else, get back
some compensation exchange for him, and he'll go sign a
long term deal there.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
I mean, that's really what is that.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Play, I think for t Higgins at this point, and
then for trade Hendra Hendrickson, which is interesting. There was
supposed to be an opportunity for him to go out
and potentially you know, work out of trade, and maybe
that still happens, maybe they're still figuring what that looks like.
But what was interesting to me is after the combine,
I thought, oh, maybe they're gonna try to keep all
through these guys, like that's the conversation they were having.
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Now it looks like they're probably gonna go to keep one,
or at least this is what it leads me to think.
As there's now you know, all these reports surfacing that
they've got a high asking price for Higgins and Hendrickson
and what they could get back in return, It's like, well,
then maybe neither of these these two are going to
come back, which would be a shame because you've got
Joe Burrow, who I think is getting frustrated with the
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way the Bengals have operated, and you look at some
of the other teams within the division, Pittsburgh in particular,
that has been as active as anyone in free agency.
And I'm not always saying that equates to winning, but
I do feel like they'ret a juncture where they're like,
we need to do something to get over the hump
in Pittsburgh. And for Cincinnati, a team that has been
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to the Super Bowl with Burrow when he's one hundred
percent healthy, and when you look at the roster last year,
how well he played despite not having any help on defense,
that's a problem. You're gonna end up taking off a
guy who I think is a generational talent in Joe
Burrow by not doing more to supply him what he needs,
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Like you put him on the Chiefs, you put him
on the Bills, or you put them on any of
these other teams we talk about that are in the hunt.
I think he's viewed in a similar light as those quarterbacks,
saying like, yeah, we're gonna do all we can to
make sure he has what he needs to be successful.
And the Bengals talk that way, but their actions don't
always end up wanting us to think that way.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
Well, now they've done to deal with them though, so
it's like, get your check in and win games. Howards Joe, Like,
don't you know one thing that's for certain? You can
find yourself in a situation where the organization, the ownership
is like, look, we're compensating you as an employee. We're
not compensating you for a different position. You are not
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a GM, you are not in corporate, So do your job.
Like we've been doing this a long time, We'll be
doing it a long time after you do your job.
And sometimes that's you have to accept that that's what
that's what your reality is and what you're gonna request
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to trade. If you're Joe Burrow. I don't think so.
And if you do, they're not letting you go. And then,
now what does that turned into? You turn into a
disgruntle employee because it generally always falls on that athlete
some way, somehow. Now Joe Burrow is this person that
isn't you know, connected with reality. He's getting paid all
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this money while you got a problem with him. And
these are the situations that play out for really really
good athletes for ages. This is nothing new. This man
has played well enough to land a very very nice
big contract. He played well enough to be an MVP
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this year. By stats, he should have got it. And
yet you would actually let this happen. You would allow
for a team that was good enough to make it
to the super Bowl that, by the way, struggled last year.
They struggled or not, they were not the impressive Bengals
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team that they had been prior to last year. They struggled.
Now they got on point, they got they got back
on pace. But why would you set this team back
if you're this close. I don't know the last time
they were this close to being good was what with
Icky Woods and that group of guys it's been a
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really long time since they've been this competitive, well.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I mean super Bowl competitive. Yeah, but they had good
years of.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
The ND Carson Palmer, but not that they didn't make
it to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And I think it's just look, you work with t J.
Hush Manzada, he would know this. This is what they've
always been though. There's always been a disgruntled star. There's
always been a player who wasn't happy, whether it was
Corey Dillon, whether it was Carson.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
I think it would be safe to say you have
never had a Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
So then why would you want to risk.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Alter bring a potential Super Bowl just because you want
to cut corners a couple of.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Hey, bro again, I think we're saying the same thing.
Why would you? Why would you risk it? Spend that
money that you're going to spend on on Hendrickson and
on Higgins, make build your roster up just a few
more pieces left that you'd like a few, not not
a whole bunch like some of these other teams are facing.
Now you look at San fran or Seattle, you know
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you're not facing a big build out to do what
you need to do.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You're right there at it at least see this through.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You know how many teams in the NFL look at
Cincinnati and go I would kill for those would.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Love to have that team.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Please those guys on my roster, bro all this is
and I'll in with this. If you don't make it
to the super Bowl over the next what three four
years of Joe Burrow's contract life or these other guys
lives you know of their contracts, then forever you can
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say this is why Cincinnati does.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Deals the way we do deals. Now leave us the
hell alone. You can do that. You can do that.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
You don't win a super Bowl over the next three
four years, you can sit there and I'd be the
first one to defend you and be like I can
remember back in twenty twenty five when I had this
conversation with Q and Jonas about how they needed to
spend money on their big players so that they can
have an opportunity to win a Super Bowl. They never
went back to another Super Bowl. We're not spending any
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more money. I support them.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
What was the Pete Prisco window for Burrow? Was it
ten years? He's got to win a sertad years?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
He said he'd win multiple He tries to backtrack it
and say that he only said one, but the truth
is he initially said one and then after which, by
the way, let's just really break down, all right, This
this Pete Prisco proclamation. And I've said this to him
to his face multiple times. Joe Burrow was coming off
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and I've said this a thousand times. The greatest single
season in college football history. If you look at what
ELSU did to win a national championship, how they did it,
going undefeated, all the top twenty five teams, top ten
teams they beat. It was a gauntlet and they wiped
the floor with everyone. So he ends up winning the Heisman,
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he ends up being the number one overall pick. And
so when Pete made this statement, I'm like, Pete, that's
you're really not going out on a limb here, you know,
like like you're kind of riding the tide of what
has been quite possibly like an unbelievable prospect in Joe Burrow,
who's taken number one overall. Like you're making a statement,
and you make it seem like it's outlandish, right, Like
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no one would who who would think It's like it
wasn't that much of like a risk to you saying that.
But here's the issue, and I've always said this to him.
I said, as much as we believe in Joe Burrow,
it's does the organization are they willing to do what
they need to do? And this is where I think
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Pete misses the point. And this is where a lot
of people miss the point, even some of the greats.
And I do think Joe Burrow will go down as
one of the all time greats.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
It's still not enough.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
It's the ultimate team sport, and part of that team
isn't just the ten of their guys, but the quarterback
or the eleven guys on defense, or the special teams,
and the coaching staff and the front office. It's also ownership.
And this is an organization that has let other talented
guys out the door without them having this sort of
success they probably should have had because they're just you know,
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it's not a team that's been willing to spend the
way other teams or organizations are going to. So that's
what makes his whole grand. You know one in ten
that he came back, he said multiple in ten years.
That's what makes it tough to because it's not him,
it's it's everything else. Now, there's been some injuries, like
people will probably point to that, but I don't know
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how much that's really outside of early on, you know,
has held him back so much. Like he's good, he's
gonna be great. He's been great when he's healthy. It's
just a matter of having what's out around him. I
think you go back to last year. Look how many
games you threw for like over three hundred yards, and
they're trying to bring him back in games and they
can't get a stop, the defense can't get off the field.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
It's a problem.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
And then the last thing about Prisco's proclamation is he
has never once picked him to win the Super Bowl
in that timeframe. So he makes the statement, yet he
actually never believes in the statement that he made. It
was really probably just for click.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I mean, you know he was you know, he's getting
a lot of luck, Chrisco. Yeah, click Prisco. It is
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Brady, Good morning guys. In case you missed this.
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Lots of Hayley, Hey Brady, guys, in case you miss this,
Lots of news involved in the WNBA these days.
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Including malfunction.
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Malfunction including Portland and Toronto joining.
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The fold in twenty six, but they're looking to join.
They're looking to include another squad.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
And who could be pushing further than mister Marshall Mathers
Eminem looking to bring Mama Spaghetti to the league in Detroit.
He's uh reportedly joining a bidding group.
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Both of them together there it.
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Is malfunction, multiple functions, so hold on multiple Other other
cities in the mix are Austin, Charlotte, Cleveland, and Houston,
but Detroit led by Eminem.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
I'm just glad Lorena and Lee are on the same page.
That's all that really matters in the end. I mean,
the story is the story. I don't I wanted to
hear y'all's opinion, but I mean, the story is the story.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
But the fact.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
That we could look at Lorena and Lee on the
same page behind the window is as amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
The next time I care about a story in the
w NBA will be the first time I do.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
To be honest with you, so.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I did the mic break. Oh yeah, the mic came.
I was like, what is Lee playing with in his
hand right now?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
You don't care for their buddy?
Speaker 7 (41:14):
Oh yeah, mom juggling mics.
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He's juggling the mic in his hand HANDHOSDS is I
appreciate it?
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Appreciatedly?
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