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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, NFL Draft Day is here
and we've got you covered. We've got Brady Quinn's explosive
top ten mock draft for the NFL coming up later on.
We've also got Draft Days stories from Brady and Barr
and some stuff we never thought we'd ever hear or

(00:21):
heard before, including Dan Snyder asking somebody to urinate on
a team logo. We've also got Prince Light Star himself.
Who the hell is that you ask? Oh, don't worries.
Stick around and you'll find out. We're gonna have another
edition of in case you missed it. We've also got
Lee's Leftovers and the great Albert Breer stops by. It's
all yours coming up next here. Two pros and a

(00:41):
cup of Joe on a Thursday, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
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Speaker 1 (00:59):
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(01:20):
Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, and we do it here
live on Draft Day. It is Draft Day. It is
finally here we can put aside all the speculation and
we can start holding people accountable for some of these
garbage betting lines that are out there, these over unders,

(01:40):
all that stuff. Now we're gonna get the real answers
coming up later on tonight. How fired up are.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
You, guys?

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Nice exciting, good talk. Now, this is an awesome day.
This is a life changing day for so many guys
out there who sacrificed a ton to get there. The parents,
the caretake, there's people who have poured into these young men,
sacrificed so much for them to have a chance to
get there, the coaches, and it's just an awesome moment.

(02:09):
I mean, you think back to all the hard work,
everything that goes into this stuff for these young men
and and this is that moment where they get to
see their dreams come true. So there's nothing like Draft
day it's it's one of the most incredible events in
your life, especially at this point. But more than anything else,
it is the greatest reality TV of all time, the best.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
It's cool to be celebrated, stressful all at the same
time just because of everything that surrounds it.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
But what were you stressed about?

Speaker 5 (02:45):
There's always something, There's always something to stress out about
my case.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Like having to wait ten minutes to get drafted. That
is that your story?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Well, back then, they negotiated before the draft, the first
pick negotiat.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I was back then.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
It was the same thing for me.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
I was in But the difference between you and me
was I was negotiating the night before, like I was negotiating,
so I was on the phone. So I didn't I
didn't feel myself getting the opportunity to really enjoy it
because there were so many people talking to me. My
agent was talking to me, both franchises were talking to me,

(03:24):
and so it was kind of like I didn't get
an opportunity to really like take it all in because
they were Washington was threatening me kind of sort of
the entire time. Cleveland was like, listen, we want you,
but you know it's got to be for the right price,
and so it just kept kind of dragging out. So
I'm just saying for me that it was fun and
it was good, but it was a bit stressful when

(03:46):
you had people sitting there telling you, well, we might
not take you because we don't think you're signable, you know,
And that's like I got to listen to it, and
I'm like looking at my agent, like, you know, I
want to be signable, but my agent saying the trusting
and I'm like, well, look man, look man, I want
to be one. I wanted to go one. Look hey,

(04:09):
look here, man, don't mess this up for me.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
The Raiders sent i'd like a construct of a deal
to four guys in our draft year JaMarcus, myself, Calvin Johnson,
and then there's one other. I can't remember who it was.
I know I it was Joe Thomas or someone else.
But my agent day before it was like, I don't
even know what to make of this, Like it was
like a very rough draft, like percentages of things. He said,

(04:35):
I'm not really going to entertain her and take it seriously,
he goes, because it's not like a real offer. He goes,
this is what they're trying to, like, take it, you know,
sell everyone on and if this is why they want
to like take someone to one because they're going to
take a lesser deal. He's like, it's it's not a
good thing. So, you know, ultimately, I don't know that
anyone did anything with whatever they sent, but eventually they

(04:57):
end up taking jeem Arcas one, Calvin one two, and
et cetera. But it was that slash, you know, you're
dealing with, at least in my case, all sorts of
different information you're being passed along.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I kind of knew talking to Cleveland Browns that I
bo Joe Thomas and I were there at three that
they were going to take Joe. You know, they told
me that we talked about that, and then I'd thought,
at least from what I've been told from Miami Dolphins
that like I wasn't going to go past nine because
of all the conversation we had. Terry Shay was their
quarterback coach on Cam Cameron's staff, and that was why

(05:30):
I worked with for a good portion of the preparation
leading up to it. Had I said some really good
you know, workouts and time spending with Cam Cameron. Now,
come to find out there was a bit of a relationship.
This is like I don't know if I've ever told
this part of the story. There was a bit of
a relationship with Terry Bisky, whose son Brian Rubisky played
with Ted Gin junior Ohio State, and apparently behind the

(05:53):
scenes he went all in to try to see if
he could persuade them the draft Ted Gins Junior nine
and explain who's a playmaker, his speed, his special teams,
immediate impact, all that stuff. So that's a little more
context to how it all kind of went down. But
the reality is is it works out out to how
it's going to work out.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
You know, that didn't stretch you out. That didn't stretch
you out into it.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
No, not going into it, Like honestly I was with
it was it was the first time that week because
so for a lot of you know, a lot of
guys when when we went to New York, you get
there on like Monday. So I had been like going
to different charity events, going to different promotional events. You know,
I was getting up at four thirty to work out
of five, you know, I was doing I had a

(06:41):
guy who came out there who was I did some
cross training with boxing. So we would go, we do
some cardio, we'd hit some mits. We'd then go, you know,
workouts to stay in shape, which I get some throws
in there in the little indoor. And I was doing
that every day at five. We had to be on
the bus by seven, So it was a It was
a not I was gonna say, like a long week
or a grul week. But you know, I was there

(07:02):
doing kind of my normal routine of what that would
look like at that time. So it wasn't like, you know,
I got to like see everyone, you know, my grandma,
my my family from Kentucky, like all these people came out,
some of which you'd never been to New York. So
I was just looking for an opportunity to see everyone.
And that was really that the final opportunity got to
see everyone. I think we went to some party. I

(07:23):
remember like hold of my grandma's hand is we're walking
through this this rap concert. I don't know if it
was Fat Joe or who it was, but I remember
looking back up as I was my grandma. This same
for us, and uh, I think I saw JaMarcus Russell
on stage like wrapping with with someone else. Oh well, uh,

(07:43):
and so we literally walked at the front, took some
pictures or whatever on the red carpet, and we walked
right out the back door, and I was like, yep,
we we came, We saw we we went on, and
we moved on, and then we found like an Irish
bar we went and kind of basically closed down that night.
So it was just it was a celebration, you know.
It's a big moment for I think everyone who had
supported me and who had been a part of the

(08:05):
process the entire time.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
I had a ton of people there both sides. All
my grandparents were still alive, my uncles, my aunts, cousins,
I mean, coaches, teammates, like, I had a ton of
people there, but I couldn't focus in on really really

(08:28):
just being able to enjoy myself because it just I
just didn't know. I didn't know a little. I felt
a little bit of stress just even seeing how many
people were there, you know, for me, and and I
just you know, I know, I know you guys might
think this sounds crazy, but I really don't like a
lot of attention. Goh it laugh do which I want

(08:50):
to do whatever you want to do with it, but
I really don't like a ton of attention and cause
you know, y'all like to like break break on me
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Like you're you're king of mammals. Why why would I like, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Your your logo pictures you riding a blue whale.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
I'm going to say, the largest creature I'm going to
So anyway, Uh so Cleveland, Cleveland was trying to get
the deal done, and I kind of, if I'm being honest,
I didn't want to play for Cleveland. I one hundred
percent wanted to go to Washington at too.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
They get that though you grew up, you grew up
in Pittsburgh, like you probably thought, well, I wanted to
go to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
I wanted to go to Pittsburgh. But I'm just saying, like,
if you grew up in me, I don't like Cleveland, right.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Right, I probably thought they were awful.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Uh they they weren't good. They were not They definitely
were not good. And so what year was this, two thousand?
So they just came back and that so they were
an expansion team too. Like that's the other part of
it is there.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Wasn't came back right yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Their first year back was nineteen ninety nine, So there
was one year remove from the expansion.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Draft, like I like Wally Rayner, Like there were a
couple guys that I like there, but I just didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Want to go there steal you dirty. I'm looking at
that draft class right now.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
They they're at eight. They were at eight.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, but they but Washington had the second and the
third pick was.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
And third yeah, and they weren't giving them up. They
were they they knew exactly who they were going, like
twenty twenty hindsight, they knew exactly who they were taking,
you know, at that point. But they started negotiating with me, like, well,
because here's what's wild. Dan Snyder told me to pull
my my my junk out and in the center of

(10:45):
the Cleveland Brown's helmet logo do my business on it,
throw the deuces up, and tell them I don't even
need to do this meeting.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm going to Washington.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Right Wait what that's what he told me of my
that's what.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
He told me in my meeting. Right. Probably that should
have been a red flag. It should have been a
red flag.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
But but that also would pump you up, would it, not,
Like like well.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Then then you'll probably go yeah, hell yeah, you know
I mean then in the moment, and I was like, yeah,
of course that's what I'm saying, Like I don't want
to Look, I'm being all literal to the dude. I
was like, look, I don't want to get in trouble,
and I don't I don't want to get in between
any of you guys is like your ownerships, like kind
of like beefs or anything like that. I don't want
to get arrested. But I mean, if you really want

(11:31):
me to do it, you know that.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
We started laughing.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
But I can't but that the first sign, by the way,
that was the first that was first red flag.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
But and you don't know it.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
You don't realize, like dang, this dude is crazy. In
the moment, you're like, oh, man, like this dude's like
he loves me this, that and the other. He thinks
like this that you're the most awesome person in the world.
Died this, that and the other. And I'm coming here,
right So I go back to Cleveland. I tell Cleveland
you got to pay me quarterback money. If you don't
pay me somewhere around fourteen. Look fourteen guaranteed.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Is that crazy?

Speaker 5 (12:08):
If you don't pay me something like fourteen guaranteed. I'm
not I can't. I can't do it, like we can't
do it. And they were like, yeah, we're not going
to give you that, and so I was like, well,
I'm gonna stay firm on fourteen. And they went and
got Courtney. Courtney's agent was like, well, what is he
asking for. I went to Courtney. I told Corty, I said,

(12:31):
don't negotiate with them, just tell them your number, cause
I'm they've clearly established that they're talking to me and him,
which is unique, you know, because me and him were
going to be the first my teammate went first overall
in that draft, so that was pretty cool. So we
were on the phone and I'm telling him like, I'm
not going to negotiate with him no more. So push
it up as high as you can.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Right.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
So then once they found out Vinnie Serados calling my agent,
it's like, look, man, Dan told me, if he's not signable,
we want him. We want to take them at too,
but we will take them at three if we have to,
just to kind of, you know, kind of knock it
down just a little bit to make it more negotiable.
So you got to be negotiable at too, so they

(13:13):
were negotiating against their third pick as well in the scenario.
So it was interesting. It was an interesting experience. But yeah,
that that was kind of how it went for me.
And I had a baby on the way Keno Keno
was in the in the oven and he was cooking up.
So I had a pregnant ass baby mama on my

(13:35):
hands at that time. Well, I loved her at the time.
She was my fiance at the time. But you know,
different story now. But part of the koyfish, I mean,
she didn't make it.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
She didn't make it.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
So and them KOI fishing a q aq them boyfish
didn't deserve to go.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
She did anyway, I'm glad I got to throw that
out there too. By the way, hell.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
And she didn't deserve to be there, but my son
did even though he wasn't here. So I don't know
how that one works, But to that point, there were
a lot of people that were supposed to be there
and we had a really really good time.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Man, But I just.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
They had more fun than I did, and I thought
that was pretty cool. Like my uncles are the reason
why I played ball and played the way that I did.
I patterned myself after Westinghouse, which was a super city
city league school.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
My uncles played there.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
They were super super fire dudes, and you know, they
just never were they could make it to that level.
Didn't make it to that level, I should say, And
so for them to have the opportunity to live it
out it was pretty That was pretty cool. So it's
like a wedding if at your wedding people, it's kind
of like a wedding or a funeral.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
That's actually whichever one you want to call it.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, I don't know what that.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Jeez, that was a funeral for me. I ain't know
it was a funeral, they said when they called my name.
They just have been like dead man walking.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Paul Bears all look the same.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
The reality is, and this is where I feel like
a lot of young men. Oh, there's a couple of things.
A lot of young men are more prepared for this
now than ever because of the process. They've already been
introduced to negotiations, they've already had some sort of professional
formality to actually playing football in college. A lot of

(15:40):
these guys have been getting paid, so it probably feels
a bit different. I'm not saying that when you go
d one that it wasn't in a way a step
or part of the dream coming true. But now you're
getting paid on top of that too, and in some
cases millions of dollars for some of these college kids.
And I do wonder if that wears off the luster

(16:05):
of it a bit, because you know, I remember the
days of being in zomb hall and scrounging it together,
change to go get a piece of pizza in her
basement so I could have dinner that night, Like I
remember some of the different struggles that you have as
a college student when you work a job and you're
trying to manage it and you're just trying to have
enough cash or money because the dining hall is closed

(16:25):
by the time I got done with practice and treatment,
and then watching film and breaking stuff down preparing for
the next day, and then having to go to study
hall like there's no time, And so I remember all
those things. I think back to just how much of
a rejoice it was to be able to then be
able to do it as a pro and not have
some of the burdens that came along with that. I
shouldn't say burdens, but my responsibilities that came along with

(16:47):
that so in one way, like I do wonder if
draft Day feels the same for these guys. When I
mean think about Bryce under with the kid in Michigan.
She's just supposed we signed a deal of twelve million,
Like does it? Does it? I mean, it's more money.
It feels great. It's it's again another step. But you're
making money now, like real money as walking as a freshman.

(17:11):
It's kind of crazy. And one of the things that
I wanted to bring up that I was reading about
the draft and some of the things, and I don't
know if it was this might even Jay Glazer who
put this out there, who LeVar, you will be working
with tonight a PM Eastern time, NFL Draft covers. Don't
look anywhere else Tween Fox, don't work anywhere else, LeVar,
Joe Douglas, j Glaizer, Jenny Tapp, they got you covered. Yeah,

(17:34):
But I wanted to point out that medical we've always
known there's some teams that just take a guy off
the board because they don't feel like he'll be able
to do it. There's character, which is another thing right
off the field issues. They just feel like he's a
dirt bag. And then there's a third thing they've brought
up that they don't love football, And he said there's
a number of players now that they don't know what

(17:56):
exactly to attribute it to, but they do feel like
the nil era of college football player has led now
to this point of are they doing it for the
money or football? If they really don't love football, We're
not sure we want to draft them. They're not on
our board because we feel this guy is not really
about what this game takes, what it's about.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
It's pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean you, I do wonder how many players now
their goal is to go to the NFL or their
goal is, man, if I can get to college and
it's a good spot and I can make a little
bit of money, maybe I can look elsewhere. It's not
the end all be all like it used to be.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, but it's still I mean, more often than not,
it's still about trying to get to the money. The
money represents a landing place, a destination for you know,
most guys who didn't grow up with money or grew
up even with the structure and conversations that help you

(18:56):
understand what having a job or you know, what that
looked like, you know, being in the real world didn't
have all of that, that guidance. I mean, that was
that was it. So you know, guys can say, well,
I love the game. But if you were to say, well,
what's the motivation, they'll say, oh, to take care of
my mother or to take care of you know, my

(19:16):
my baby sister or whatever everybody has there, you know,
the chickens. Yeah, everybody will come up with, you know,
what has driven them and what has taken them to
you know that point. So I mean you're going to
find out if they love the game once you start
paying them, So I guess it'd be good to figure
it out. I guess, all right, well, do you love

(19:37):
the game because you're making money in college? I mean,
that's an interesting you know, that's a that's an interesting
category to start judging players off of, because I think
people would be lying if they said that they have
the idea of making a seventh figure having a seventh
figure job or even a high six figure job coming

(19:57):
out of college and you were able to earn it
and play for it doing it on the field. I mean,
I think people would be lying. Too many, too many,
not too many people would say I don't do it
for the money. I don't do it for it just
the pure love of the game. I mean some of
that that motivation as to why people played away they
play is.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
To get to the money.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
So I mean Jerry Maguire said it best, you know,
Tom Cruise said it best, like show me the money,
and that was based off of getting what he got
a new deal that wasn't a draft.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
But I mean there he goes.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
Cuba Gooding junior who was well to see the.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Money the quand it was it was Cuba the kwand yeah, yeah,
I don't know though, but so hold on, hold on,
how much were you offered? You said you're off in
thirteen or fourteen? I told him I won at fourteen.
I ended up with ten. I ended up at Okay.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
So think about that. Bryce Underwood, the freshman quarterback in Michigan,
is getting twelve or more supposedly on his wing in college.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
There you go that.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
I mean that to take away some of the edge, Yes,
one take away some of the edge.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
And I do I do wonder like at what point
will it stop? Because college football is an expanding sport
and landscape. The ratings have continually gone up and the
media rights have continually gone up, like this thing's only
gonna go up for the foreseeable future, and I just

(21:26):
it's crazy to think what these guys are gonna cost
or what they'll be making, I guess is the other
way of putting it, And that doesn't include like what
other marketing gets involved. I mean, it's it's gonna be
wild and the whole eligibility but with the settlement, as
far as you know what the requirement's gonna be, is
gonna be you have to play five years to play four?

(21:48):
Are they gonna get rid of the eligibility rules altogether
where guys can play for five six years? I mean,
think about that. There's a realistic scenario where the eligibility
rules are going to be challenged and this will almost
feel like a minor league to the NFL, and it
might feel like more comparable at some schools like Texas,

(22:08):
Ohio State, maybe Michigan teams of deep pockets, Penn State,
I don't know how deep the pockets are, maybe Penn State, Georgia, Baba.
These schools they might be able to're not gonna have
a salary cap of you know, two hundred million, at
least not now. But if we're being real Ohio States
is over twenty last year, and it's only going to

(22:29):
build from there. Now we've got Kurt Signetti saying some
teams are paying forty they've got a roster of forty million.
Some are closer to, you know, past that. So that's
so it's doubled in one year's time. Like that means
it's gonna get there by twenty thirty if it keeps
growing at the rate it's growing.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Twelve million and twelve million, that's is that the most
that a quarterback is getting.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Or on his on his way in? But right now,
I mean you you would presumably say sixteen would be
the most over four years, because I believe Beck's getting
four and Nico wanted four and the average supposedly based
on the data and opened nindors.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Is over three.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
So do the math on that, man, Like more guys
are getting that too. That's just a that's a freshman
he's ever played before. Brock Purty's made two point eight
in his career. He went to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, dang, Nico Iomaliava has made more during his time
at Tennessee than brock Purty has so far.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
As NFL career tang wild. That's pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
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(23:57):
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Speaker 4 (25:21):
Is this Jonas's iPhone or something?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I don't even know? Is this shine down? This shine down?
It's all I know. It's called adrenaline?

Speaker 4 (25:37):
It might be.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
What you How the hell you playing it?

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Does this sound like the song that'd be playing in
Shannon Sharp's head when you be on the phone.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
With that girl?

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Oh wait? Is it two suit all?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Is it that band? Cuff Up?

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Oh no, you set me up for this Stdium.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Didn't they play Coachella?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Did they?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
It's Finger eleven, finger eleven?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Why why has it gotta be Fingersticks?

Speaker 1 (26:14):
That is not Finger eleven. There's no way Finger eleven
is a good band. There's no way that's Finger eleven.
If it is, that singer got a voice transplant, Lorena,
Am I wrong? Yeah? I couldn't tell you. How do
you know? It really only just says adrenaline. It doesn't

(26:36):
give me an artist right here. I'm telling you, it's
got to be shined down. That would be my guess.
It sounds a little shined down, you for sure.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
It says Finger eleven.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
From what I'm looking up, Finger Eleven's got some good albums.
That one good album, one and a half. It is
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And all of a sudden, we've got a series because
Jimmy Butler's got to get an MRI because he's got
a pelvit contusion. They're calling it.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
That's a rap. They don't got a series. That's that.
That was a quick turn.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
That that party, if you're a Golden State Warriors fan,
that party died out quick.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Geez.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
There's no, there's no. They can't do it without without
Jimmy Buckets man. Can't do it. No, they can't can't
do it. They don't have enough. Can win with it,
can win without it? I mean, I mean, just the
the tempo of the game yesterday was in the Rockets favor,

(28:19):
even with Jimmy on the floor.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
But you the first game.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
The first game, it was kind of it was kind
of the same early on, and then Golden State really
started applying themselves and asserting themselves, and a lot of
that was with Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler. Yesterday it
kind of seemed the same. There was that that moment

(28:47):
in time where it was like kind of heating up
and Euston got out to a great start, but it
just looked like, you know, Golden State is going to
reel them back in, and and then you get the
little you know, Jimmy goes up for the ball. Dude,
you know, and it's kind of like this is the

(29:07):
undoing of Draymond Green, right, Like because Draymond pushed him,
didn't he Draymond pushed the guy that went underneath Jimmy
and he would he goes down the way that he did,
and you could tell by the way he fell that
that just wasn't That wasn't a good It wasn't good.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It wasn't gonna end up good.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
So if he's out or can't come back and play
at a high level, they don't they it was gonna
be a good series in terms of it would be competitive,
but Golden State, I felt like would outclass them, and
having two scores of the caliber of Curry and and
Butler would be too much for for a really really

(29:48):
talented Rockets team.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
But now, yeah, the tables turn.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
You take away, you take away what Butler brings, not
only scoring wise, but but his defense, his ability to
to really mix it up, open the floor up for
for Steph, you know, score and do things that that
really helped this team out holistically with the other players.

(30:14):
You know, I think that it totally changes the dynamic
of Golden State, and now I don't think it'll be
a good series for them moving forward if Jimmy Butler
can't come back healthy.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Poor prognosis.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
It's only one game, right, It's one one still, you know,
you never know. I mean this, This Golden State team
has rallied sometimes with Steph Curry having help and not,
so I'm not counting them out. It only takes one
Steph Curry, you know, in Fuego shooting night that to
get them right back into this and a pelvic contusion.

(30:49):
I have no idea how long he's out for. If
that's something that you can oh gosh, I mean, I
don't know how I stay out of the gutter talking
about this.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Our medical assistant here, he can look up pelvic contusion
timelines here. Sure he's got this, got this unlockily see
uh see how fast this can work. What are they
saying about pelvi contusions? How long is it gonna be out?

Speaker 3 (31:13):
That's I mean, it's a contusion. I mean that's gonna
be rough.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Yeah, I mean he's definitely out for Game three, but
they say he could be back for game four.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
There you go, So, I mean does that change your opinion?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
That doesn't?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Do you?

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Now? Do you now believe that the Golden State Wars
are right back in this thing? I mean, that's one one.
It's not like they're down.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Like, can we just I'm sorry to interrupt, Can we
just con Do the Warriors have announced that he's out
for Game three?

Speaker 4 (31:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
They have not. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
I will not say that they've definitely taken him out
for Game three, But they're still unclear because he's doing
the MRI today.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Okay, Now, of the four of us talking right now, LeVar,
you've probably had the most pelvic contusions. Is that fair
to say?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh? Yeah, I've had contusions. Man, I don't know about
the pelvis.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Ever had a pelvic contusion, I could only imagine how
painful that.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Anything.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Nothing, I mean, I've got hit down there, Yeah, but
I'm not. I'm not got a pelvic contusion. I don't
even know did he get pun did he get the
contusion from getting punched, or was it like what happened
once he landed on the ground because he landed on
his butt.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Brady. Brady always told me that it's, you know, better
to have a pelvic contusion than pelvi confusion, which I
don't really understand that, but there's a lot of I'm not.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Usually by the way, if you don't have pelvic confusion,
you could you could put yourself in a position where
you're gonna have a pelvic contusion. You know, you can
really get after it and you might be hurting yourself
down there. There's no confusion, they're saying.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Pelvic contusion recovery times varies from a few weeks to
several months, depending on the severity of the injury and
the individual actors. Yeah, while some mild cases mayhill so
just mouth cases may within a week, within a week
or two.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
He's either going to die because it's it's an NBA player,
so like it's it could be that bad, that drastic,
or he'll be fine for Game three. It's kind of
one of it. It's like all or nothing here, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
I thought he was about to go back there and
get the nectar from the gods Man and just come
right back out.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
You know.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Porzingis got his got a chunk of his head removed
from him, and he came back out. But I really
thought Jimmy, like when he tried to go back down
court and it looked like he you know, he had.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Like swollen swollen balls.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
I really thought that they were going to take him
back there hitting with that little bump and he'd be
back out there playing. But when they said he had
to you know, he got had to go get an
MRI and and and all this stuff, I was like,
it's probably bad, bad If Jimmy Butler didn't come back.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Porzingis looked like Johnny Gringo after he got shot.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I mean, he still had it all on him, didn't he.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Stitches?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Come on, yeah, come on, Daisy.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
It was just too much for him to build.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
At least, you know, at least we're getting some physicality.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Though.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
You know, these things are starting to ratchet up a
little bit, which is nice. It's fun to see, you know.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Yeah, well that's a I feel like that's a horrible
way to take and gain control over a series and
the injury of one of Yeah, I think so that's
a hard one.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Well, by the way, where's Loreino on sticks?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Picks?

Speaker 4 (34:40):
I mean he gave his pick. He said it's a wrap.
He said it's Houston.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Yeah, he speaking of Loraina. Tell us about you know,
you went to with Coop to to the Lakers game.
You know, how how was it? How was how was
that Lakers game?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
They won for you? Brought him good luck for NBA game?

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, it was super fun.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
The highlight of my night though, was definitely buying the
hot dog T shirt on the sidewalk.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
T shirt on the side.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah, there was a guy who was like five dollars
T shirts cheaper.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Than a hot dog.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Oh, okay, didn't it didn't actually have a hot dog
on the T shirt.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
It had Lucas numbers on the back. So oh it worked,
it worked.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah. Jack Black looked like he eating good.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Gosh, he looks so happy he was.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Being He looks healthy and happy.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
No, one left that whole.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
He looked healthy and happy. Bro. When I saw him
showing the celebrities, I was like, dang.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Jack, he likes those doubles.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
You happy as hell?

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Jack?

Speaker 3 (35:45):
You like that toast? Good toast, toast, that's good toast.
Kevin Gates was at the game too. You know.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Kevin Gates was the one that told Lebron he didn't
like the way his wife looked at him. He liked
the way the white women looked at him, and and
you know, loved on him and looked at him like,
oh my gosh, he is man. He didn't like the
way Savannah James was looking. He pulled up and was.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Sitting on the court.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Some some are debating the fact that maybe Lebron is
a real life bully because he did not run up
on Kevin Gates the same way he ran up on
Stephen A after he had the conversation with Steven A
about Bronni. So does does Lebron James defend and stick
up for Bronnie James more than he does?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Is? You know, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Can I ask a question? Sure, who the hell where
are the white women at that?

Speaker 5 (36:47):
And he's he's a he's an artist. He's a art
he's a music artist. He you know, some would call
him a rapper. He thinks he's a motivational life coach.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Now, so.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Then he dating some other lady some some I guess
she's a housewife. She's she's on a on a show,
Basketball Wives or housewives or which she's on one of
them shows. She's got a name too, And by the way,
was interviewed by Shannon Sharp. It's like a weird little
circle here, you know, I don't know, but they was

(37:22):
there and she was eating popcorn, the same gay Lorena
was at.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I'm sure I'm sure Jason went like loft some thoughts
on this at some point throughout the course of that.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
I mean, do you guys think he should have ran
up on somebody who told him in public? And you know,
by the way Lebron responded, Lebron Lee pull up to
like the the tweets and stuff like.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Lebron responded back and called the dude that you're a peasant.
You're not You're not even worth my time.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I was even I wasn't even aware that that was
the thing. I didn't even know who uh you know,
that was a thing.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
That's a thing.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Kevin Hanks was, so Kevin Gates whatever that guy too. Well,
we'll get the answers on that come up next here
in another edition of In case you missed it Right
here on Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
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Speaker 1 (38:25):
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Speaker 3 (38:33):
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on FSR right now, though, it's time for this.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
After that, we turned it over to our executive producer,
Lee Lap.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady, Good
morning LeVar.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
Really, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I'm doing okay, I'm doing okay.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
I'm reading up on this whole Gates James feud, which
is just, uh titillating to say the least, Bill or
Kevin Gates. Yeah, yeah, Bill Gates versus Lebron James. Yeah,
of course Bill Gates, not Kevin Gates.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
No. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
Kevin Gates of course made waves talking about how he
did not like how.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Savannah James.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Like what it's saying, say it.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, she didn't like how Savannah looked at Lebron. He
likes the way white women look at Lebron, which Brady
says in his post.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
Lebron, of course, posted afterwards saying, you know, Kings don't
concern themselves with the opinions of peasants. Where to next, Queen,
Let's get it. Yeah, obviously shot at accades and then
he shows up the next day on court side with
his with his shirt open and the bling out and
all that fun stuff, and uh yeah, so that's what

(40:30):
that's what I've.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Been reading for the last five minutes. Good stuff. And
Lorena was living and she was she was watching the
whole thing.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Apparently apparently Lebron didn't run up on him and like
he ran up on Stephen.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Ay, I don't know, you know, that's what's out here.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Being defeated, Brady, your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
I have no idea what's going on. I mean neither.
The most more questions I got more questions for Lee.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Okay, the most noteworthy part of that is white women.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
I thought
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