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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up on this Wednesday edition. Of course, we're going to
have the usuals. Petros Papadaka stops by, We've got Lee's Leftovers,
We've got our Midweek Awards, and in case you missed it,
we're also going to look back on Game four between
the Pacers and the Knicks. Indiana gets it done, and
(00:20):
that'll just about do it. Do we have our NBA
final set? We think so, we will discuss. We're also
going to have a conversation about somebody who's decided, you
know what, I'm not going to show up. I know
you guys are having some OTA stuff going on down there,
but I'm not going to show up because I'd like
to be elsewhere. We will also continue the discussion when
it comes to college football and the changing landscape, this
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time when it comes to coaches and talk about setting
a precedent in the NFL, and this time it's not
with the first rounders, it's with the second round picks.
We'll discuss right here. Two Pros and a cup of
Joe on a Wednesday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
You know the Narcos theme feels appropriate. Oh no, because
when it comes to the NBA playoffs, we got some
blood out there.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Was wondering where you were going with this?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Ready, ready to wrap this whole thing up? Oh manth
it is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here
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to be taking you all the way up until nine
am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, And of course we
will start with what happened last night in Indianapolis where
the Paces rebound from whatever the hell you called that
in the second half in Game three and make a
little bit of a statement and Tyrese Haliburton is having
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the playoffs of all playoffs that I can recall for
an Indiana pacer outside of Reggie Miller, like he's been
fantastic and incredible. Last night was really his time to show.
Like everyone's going to go back to the choking gesture
and the shot that went in in Game one of
this series. But last night was an all around masterclass
by Halliburn.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean historic right him Jokich? Was it like
Oscar Robinson the only two other players we've seen in
NBA history do what he was able to do last night,
And felt like anytime the Knicks started to build some momentum,
he was able to stop it.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
He was able to kind of put a squash to it.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
So to me, it looked like a championship performance, you know,
the type that I can player willing his team to
get to the NBA Finals, you know, maybe even continuing
this run you're talking about to help them win the
NBA Fives. But hell of a performance last night by
uh try Saliburton and just you know again the dad
back in the house and maybe that did it. Yeah,
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maybe that that did it to some degree with the
pops back in the house set a game, Bridge Field
House able to watch it.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So I thought it was Kinco Field remember that?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah I don't, But you don't remember.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That he used to be called the field House back
in the day the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, really I did not remember that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, something like that. It's like rich Stadium, to remember it,
Joe Robbie, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Can we have Lee looked at us after after a
text from Lee yesterday, I'm not sure he'sun be capable
of much today.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
He's like unbelievable. It's Taco Tuesdays. Man, Uh var is
it over for the Knicks? Is the undertaker calling it?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Uh? It is over this, the series is over. It'll
in in New York. But uh, I just again, I
just thought that the pace of the game was too
much for the Knicks. You know, I never really paid
attention to Karl Anthony Towns outside of him shooting the threes.
But I started watching how he runs up and down
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the court. He doesn't move very well. Man. I don't
know if he's sore. I know he hurt his knees
at the games, in the game or whatever. He don't
move very well, man. Like I get. I get that
he's tall and he's big, but he don't move well.
It's almost like he can barely run up and down
the court more than one time before he gets like
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tired or just can't. He just stops. I don't know.
I was just paying attention to like I was noticing that,
I was like, that's pretty interesting. It almost creates a
five on four advantage for Indiana almost every single time
they're down on offense. And and then I was paying attention, like, okay,
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you know they're bigs, just don't they don't get back
very fast, and I don't know, it's just a lot
of open shots there were, There were a lot of
There were a lot of missed opportunities for the Knicks
because they couldn't keep up with the pace of the Pacers.
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It was just way too fast for them. It caused
it caused duress with Nie Smith and the way he
was staying in front of Brunson. Brunson wasn't able to
facilitate the way that he usually facilitates. It kind of
sounds like a replay of the OKC Timberwolves game. And
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they made a lot of mistakes that a lot of
costly turnovers. I mean, the start of the third third
quarter was just horrible for for the Knicks. You know,
they they had no real continuity. They couldn't settle into,
you know, getting into the flow of the second half.
They turned the ball over I want to say, like
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two or three times in their first possessions coming into
the third quarter, it was a very that was to me,
the quarter that kind of made it made it bad. Now,
I know they came back and I know that they
you know, got to a point of where it turned
into a game, but it just seemed like the speed,
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the pace, the intensity of the defense forced them into
to mistakes turning the ball over and then it led
to ultimately them being able to get down court and
the New York Knicks were not full strength on that
side of the ball. When they were, they weren't closing
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out on defense as well as they should have. Indiana
moved the ball very well and it ended up being
the opportunities for open shots and they made them, and
Halliburton was giving them a nice blend. You know, they
were going into the paint, they were making shots from
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the outside, so they look pretty good. I don't I don't,
you know, I still think, you know, I don't know
if it's going to be a good, good final series.
I don't know. It could be or it could not be.
It could be OKC. But the Pacers show, they show
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that they have maybe the ability to keep up with
the OKC team, both defensively and and speed and pace
of the game. So maybe it'll be a good series.
But as far as this one, the Knicks had their
chance and they they blew it terribly last evening, and
you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
When you saw the scores being what they were at halftime,
you knew the Knicks couldn't keep that pace up. They
just couldn't. Indiana can go like that's that's their style
of play. But even though the Nicks kept it close,
you knew eventually it was just gonna wear him down.
Karl Anthony Towns went down with the He collided knees,
I believe with Nie Smith uh in the fourth quarter.
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So he's got a ironic around that. Yeah, it is
kind of ironic Smith and he smith that knee.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Damn right.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I could send those sassy passes anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
No, he couldn't.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But speaking of sassy, Tyrese Haliburton spoke afterwards about his
performance and rebounding following a disappointing Game three.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
I was just trying to be aggressive, man, just trying
to play my best.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
I felt like I let the team down and uh,
in Game three, felt like I could have been so
much better. So I felt like I responded the right
way today, just trying to be aggressive, take what the
defense gives me. I felt like I was a little jittery,
playing too fast, so trying to calm myself down, especially
in the half court in isolations and stuff, trying to
you know, just you know, settle down, you know, and
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then just trying to find guys and just play the
right way.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
You know, coaches always want me to rebound. Everybody's on
me to rebound. So just trying to step up there
be the best I could. And you know, everybody's you know,
boxing their guy out, you know, especially Miss Robinson and
Josh Hart. You got so many guys who can just
crash the guyss like Clary like crazy. Sorry, and I'm
just trying to come in and clean it up. And
I thought I did a decent job at that. But
you know, still a lot of ways for me to
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get better, en us to get better as a group.
So none that's possible without full team effort.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
So there's your eventual Eastern Conference Finals MVP Tyres Aliburton.
You know we'll call that shot right there.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Pretty crazy too. That was the first home win for
a team in the.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Series, So yeah, crazy it's just it's how it's how.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's worked out.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
And look, I know that Knicks fans are going to
be really disappointed and this is going to be uh
maybe they'll come back and they'll make a game of
it in game five and push it to six. But ultimately,
I think we're kind of seeing they're just not as
good as Indiana, They're not as deep as Indiana, and
you just start to come to terms with the fact
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that maybe the Knicks just aren't that good. You know,
like it was a fun ride, you know, it was great,
but you know, maybe they're just not that good. I mean,
there is that possibility that out.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You love PLO on a New York fan base, you
really do, though, Yeah, this is one of your favorite
things to do, is like, oh can I just can
I just knife a New York fan base a little bit,
kick them while they're down before they're potentially out altogether.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I mean, look, it's just they're so over the top.
The celebration was so over the top.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
What does it sound like? Tell me what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't know what it sounds like. It just sounds
like a bunch of a bunch of people who have
never seen a championship before that. Are just jumping around
for Joyce, climbing stuff in the streets because.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You can't do it New York Knicks fan impression. No,
you can't do any impression whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Now it's beneath me. I can't, I can't do it.
I just I look at them and I go, what
was the big to do? Well? We got past the
second round, all right, but there's like two more series
to go, and it feels like all the air went
out of the balloon, and especially went out of the
balloon when Tyrese Haliburton shot went in, and they've just
been kind of scrambling ever since. And I think we're
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seeing the two best teams in the playoffs thus far
have been okay, see in Indiana, and it looks like,
I know people aren't gonna like that because they want
a New York market in the finals and all that,
and I get all of it. But the best matchup
you could have right now, even though OKAC will be
the favorite, is Indiana and Oklahoma City because both of
them are deep. You're going to see a lot of
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people get mixed into the rotation and you're going to
see Tyrese Haliburton and SGAE to go Mono Imano to
try and win a title for a fan base that's
never seen a title be won there before. So I'm
looking forward to it. But as far as these series go,
I think it's a wrap, which is unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But damning about last night's game is that, statistically speaking,
the Knicks were better in most categories then the Indiana
Pacers and still managed to lose by nine points. You know,
three pointers they shot at a higher percentage and they
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only shot just one less. You know, well, they they
made twelve. The Pacers made thirteen. All right, Now, they
they shot twenty eight times. They shot thirty two times,
but the percentage was higher. Right, free throws They won
in the free throws percentage, rebounds, They had more rebounds,
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They had more offense, way more offensive rebounds, more defensive rebounds.
They didn't have great assists. What do we have on assists? Now,
they killed them on assists. They got them on as
steals and blood they got them on steals. They got
them on steals. Tell you something, blocks that they were
even on blocks? What about free throws?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Go across the box?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
What was the free throw second? Well, I think they
did better than them on free throws, didn't They don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Rady told me this one time, he said, stats are
like a slutty girlfriend. Can't trust him.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, that's what's so well were they were? They did
better than them by two point by point two percent,
they did better than them on free throws. It's just
crazy that that statistically, when you look at the slutty
girlfriend that it's like, you should you should feel better
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about it a lot than that. I just don't. I
don't get why. I don't get why they could be
so so uh even in in in the in the columns,
and it just did not look it just didn't look
good for the Knicks. They just looked like a team
that that is just being outplayed and it's just a
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better team. And and that's kind of how do you
make sense of that? Right, Like, this is the biggest
game of the series by all intensive purposes, the biggest
game in the series, And how do you go out
there and just you're close in everything but not good enough.
That's that's like a heart I would assume for New
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York to coach for the GM, that's a hard one
to try to figure out.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, well, I mean, they made more field goals, made
more three pointers. I mean, that ultimately is what takes
it to win. So it was what it was, and
that I think you go back to the break neck
pace that the pacers can play with, and that's tough
to match. Especially to your point about car Anthony Towns.
If he's struggling to get up and down the floor,
I mean, that's that's what you're looking for, some sort
of mismatch issue like that. So if the sassy passer
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can't get up and down, you know it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Then, by the way, was that actually a sassy pass
or was that just in slow motion it made it
look that way?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Was he really That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
There's so many times I've seen myself broken down in
slow motion. I was like, oh man, that doesn't look good.
You know, so slow mo is not does not make
everyone look good. It does not make everyone look like
Michael Jordan flying through the air getting ready to dunk.
Sometimes you've got an awkward facial expression or your hands
do something weird. It's just you never know. So I'd
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like to think it wasn't a sassy pass, but it
feels it feels like he could be. It's something we
need to dive into a little deeper. Yeah, and see
if he's just a sassy passer. From now on, I'm
into it. Probably more interesting in some of the game to.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Be honestly looking, real, real, spicy.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks
with you. So we are going to have the usuals
coming up later on. We do have another edition of
in case you missed it. We've also got our midweek
awards in our two of the program, Petros Pop but
Akers will stop by, and we've got Lee's leftovers. All
of that is yours here on this three hour extravaganza.
Up next, though, somebody would like something from the team
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they currently play for in the NFL, and they're making
a statement to try and get it. We'll tell you
who that is. That's next.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up about twenty minutes from now here on FSR, a
Hall of famer is not happy with a current player
in the NFL, and you'll hear why get a little
over twenty minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio.
So OTAs have started up around the NFL, and you know,
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obviously we were discussing the fact that Aaron Rodgers is
not currently at the Steelers OTAs, so we're still waiting
word to see whether or not that gets done. Somebody
else who is also not at the start of OTAs
is none other than Kirk Cousins. He is not at
the start of the Falcons OTAs on the same team. Well, no,
he's the TJ. Watt as well too, But we'll start
(16:56):
with with Kirk Cousins. He decided not going to be there,
not going to show up, and he would like to
be traded. But it does feel like he's either waiting
for Rogers to turn the Steelers down or an injury
to a starter somewhere else in the league for him
to actually get an opportunity to start elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I'm just going to say, is there is there like
a secret team kind of in the mix, because there's
one in the back of my mind that I feel
like it could be in play here for Kirk Cousins that.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
No one's talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Should we guess?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah, take a guest.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
We have game show music.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
All right, so probably not this early, Probably not.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Please come on today.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Hell yeah, you're trying to shoot bullets.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
All right.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
It's like ty tyrace Halla terrible. It's a great performance, right,
That's what I'm trying to say. It's a great performance.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
All right, So let's see secret team that would be
in the mix for Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yep, yeah, m yep.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
The Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Okay, well I can't play this game anymore then, all yeah,
why not?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Oh you think that's that's a potential.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Like he would go back to the So there's something
to that. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Maybe there's something too that. I mean, there's familiarity there.
He knows the system, he knows the offense, everything else.
If if there's something that happens with JJ McCarthy, either
a setback in his recovery or they're just saying maybe
he's not ready yet. Maybe there'd be the potential of
Kirk Cousins to sign back in Minnesota. It's I'll throw
it out there. Throwing it out there there's another team.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Though.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
That did kind of hit me and I thought maybe
that would work too.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I'll come on, bar, I'll give I'll give LeVar an
opportunity another team.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, come on, what the Saints?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Good guests.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
I'm not going to say the Saints this reason. I
think the Saints are tanking this year, and I think
they want to get to a spot where they can
take the number one quarterback in next year's draft. So
this year, I think they're going into it thinking let's
just go ahead and let the rest of the future
play out with Arch Manning as our quarterback next year.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
By the way, I don't think it's the Saints.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Imagine being a Saints fan right now. You're like, man,
we're gonna suck next year. You know what, I got
to take a load off. Let me go buy a
candy bar off this kid around the corner. Oops. What
a miserable existence as a Saints fan right now?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Wow, you really went there.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
He'd like, what is like, what says?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Are you referencing our Super Bowl trip where people were
concerned about getting sold candy and the next thing, you know,
getting mugged around the corner.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
What you're saying, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I didn't realize it was a thing until sitting there
getting a bite to eat with Lee as he was
trying not to fall over the balcony because he was
bombed from hurricanes with LeVar at eight in the morning,
and looking over and seeing how the operation work, people
instructing the kids where to go, hiding around the corners,
and then realizing, oh, that's a real thing. I think
you brought it up first. I was like, nah, it
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seems embellished.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Well it was because it was because some of from
our security team said, hey, be careful if you're going
to buy candy from the kids, because once you, you know,
throw out some cash, they're looking to see how much
you have. And then they signaled someone else who ends
up trying to pickpocket you or jump you.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
If they get the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
So that was that was more Again that that at
least at least our Fox security had.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Told us about it. But you were there. I digress.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
There's one more team, I think to say, the Giants, they.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Would it would not.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
It would not be egregious to say that. However, I
don't think that this is the off season for them.
But you're getting very hot, You're getting very close, very close.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
LaVar Okay, I don't know. Oh geez, that's close. So
you're saying the Jets, you think it's the Jets.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I think they would be the potentially interested And again
this goes back to you. Before Kirk Cousins went to Minnesota,
it was the Jets who actually offered him a deal
that was more money than what the Vikings were gonna
pay him, but it wasn't the three year guaranteed deal
the Vikings gave him. So there was interest at one point.
And I do think that's a team that, again with
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justin fields, that could be the plan. But if things
look like they need a boost, they need a veteran
to come in there. He could potentially be that veteran
that they could bring in that has proven to be.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Capable.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Now, last year was rough, but I also think he
was coming off of an injury that was part of it.
So as far as the two teams I'm looking at,
like that would be the two teams outside of the
Pittsburgh Steelers. If Rogers signs in Pittsburgh, that could be
a potential trade partner.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So basically, if you're Kirk Cousins, you need either an
injury or somebody to suck so bad before the season
for the Falcons to trade you.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, and that's basically what you need if your Kirk Cousins.
Oh my god, all right, so might as well just
chill out home. Back to the original point. Why the
hell I'm gonna be at y'all's camp or y'all ot
a's right, y'all kiss my ass.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They already paid him, right, he already got his ten
million dollars bonus, So all right, I mean just hang out.
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Can they go after his bonus? But ot a's are are?
I mean ot as are they? You have to be there?
Those are mandatory. OTAs aren't what what are they called?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Voluntary?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Not voluntary? So they find him.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
They are voluntary, They're not mandatory.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Ot as are voluntary, mini campus, mandatory mini camps.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Mandatory.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Voluntary means you don't.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Have to go. But that's there, right. I didn't know
ot as. I thought you might have had to be
at O.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
No, it's no mini campus mandatory, you're subjective fines. The
only thing that would be mandatory with making the OTAs
would be if you have a workout bonus, and that
workout bonus is scheduled into being a part of the
OTAs as well.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
But isn't it even though they say it's voluntary, if
you don't show up, then they kind of say, say,
it's frowned upon.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's frowned upon, and it's it falls into the category of,
you know, watching a guy walk out of a stall
at an airport bathroom and now wash his hands from upon.
It probably falls into the category of, you know, being
that guy that doesn't want to tip. You know, even
though you got a coffee to go, you want to
throw a little bit of something in there. It's it's
it's frowned upon.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You know. Yeah, I don't think the New Orleans Saints
need a quarterback. I would they do more than anyone. Sure.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I just stated though that I think they're going to
be tanking to try to get the number one pick
next year's draft because they want Arch. They want Arch
the store behind I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Imagine following in his grandfather's footsteps.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I mean the same name at the same team. I
wonder if he would wear the same number. Is his
number retired? I'm sure that would be a debate.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, I mean would it be when they just asked,
I don't think that would be a debate.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Let my grandson wear it, let him, let him wear
them on number.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
But it would be man, it would be pretty It
would be pretty sweet though. If they tanked for arch
Manning and then Archie Manning orchestrated another Eli Manning to
get out of San Diego situation and said, listen, like
I played there, but this place sucks. I know we're
not doing this, and then tries to get Dell deltwere
le What number.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Was any anywhere?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
It feels like an upgrade at this point. Was arch
Manning number eight and he was eight.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
It's not retired, but it's kind of unofficially retired. It's
kind of understood. You don't wear number eight any kind
of has to the South. Think that would be kind
of hard if he ended up in New Orleans and
got the number. What number is he in college?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Sixteen?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Like his uncle? Okay? Was it wasn't Peyton sixteen? Yeah?
In college? He was sixteen? College? Yeah? Okay, that would
be interesting. That's a whole lot of pressure though.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
On the subject of t J. Watt that we mentioned,
because he was also a no show at camp.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's a big deal, man, It could turn into a
big deal if they don't, if they don't address this
the right way.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I mean, he's making half of what Miles Garrett is
getting this upcoming year.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Well, I mean, there's a couple of players in that
category and they both have something in common.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
You know, t J.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Watt and Trey Hendrickson, and they have in common they're
both had rushers.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
What else?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Oh I thought they were they were going down the discrimination.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Road, like, no, they've both had a ton of sacks
like the past couple of years. You know, you could
make the case they've both been.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Up there for whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't say anything.
I mean, my goodness, you guys asked the question. I
answered you people.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I love making it about race when they're both edge
rushers who played phenomenal the past couple of years and
are looking for extensions, Like, yeah, they've got that in common.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I mean, my gosh, I'm sure what you guys are
talking about. Anyway, we knew exactly what you were talking. TJ.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Watt is getting paid very similar transickts in like half
of what Miles Garrett is now getting paid. And that's
that's like all these guys are looking at saying, well
that's what he's getting. Maybe I'm not getting or surpassing
Miles Garrett. Even though all players think they're the best
they should, they don't feel like they should be taking
a fifty percent haircut for the same production or better
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production sometimes, so you can understand why they're frustrated. And
this is when fans get upset about it. You got
to understand and this is the only leverage you have
as a player. The only thing you can really do
is not show up and force the team to have
to talk about you and force the team to have
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to look at your roster and look at this team
without you. That's the only thing you can really do
as a player to flex or exercise your leverage after
you have outperformed your contract. And I think we'd agree TJ.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Watt.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Trey Hendrickson also falls in this category. They've they've outperformed
their contracts. So it's it's never easy to figure out
how to get this done. But you'd have to think too.
With Rogers out there lingering TJ. Watt, you've you know,
maybe they can get both two things done at once
whenever it happens. But it's a lot of cap considerations
to take into account.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I would assume they have to get it done. That's
a lot. I mean, it's one thing to have pressure
on you over a player that has done nothing for
your organization. You know, you wait for Aaron Rodgers. I
think it's I don't know. I think it's maybe it's
better after he signs, But man, it just feels like
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a bad move to feel like or for it to
have the optics of you being held hostage by Aaron
Rodgers until he decides he's ready to come play for
the team. Maybe it plays out differently, I don't know.
But with TJ. Watt, come on, man, Like he's beloved
by the city. He's he's earned that. That's not like
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he's he's like an overrated, overblown guy that you know
is like the hype of it all, Like dude is
truly a catalyst for the team. When he's in there,
they win. When he's out, they don't. And if you
were to do something that poisoned the relationship with TJ.
Watt or some way, somehow it didn't work out with
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TJ Watt. It goes back to the conversation I continue
to have about the pressure cooker that is being created
in Pittsburgh. You could take some of that pressure off
by signing TJ Watt. So I almost feel like they
have to sign TJ Watt. I don't believe they're in
a scenario where you can't get a deal done on TJ.
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It's just your price tags too high. I just can't
see how Pittsburgh. The only way they could survive the
way this offseason, and for what it's worth, maybe the
last two off seasons have gone for them. The only
way they can survive is by winning. And how much
of that winning do they have to do? I don't know.
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Is winning good enough? Like is having a winning season
making it to the playoffs that has now become status quo?
Is that good enough? I would say with some of
these mishaps, if there was a mishap of not having TJ.
Watt on your team, if there was a mishap of
all this discussion around Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers didn't
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end up coming in or didn't play well when he
came in. Are these big enough issues for there to
be a problem if you just have a winning season.
I think that that's what this kind of is, is kind
of developing into in terms of a storyline.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Who's what's interesting about the Steelers is they have six
months in the sixth most cap space in the NFL,
So they've got some cap space to work with in
extending out TJ.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Watt.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Even though we've we've talked about this before in our show,
the Pittsburgh Steelers are reluctant to give a ton of
money up front in regards to a signing bonus. That's
just something that they don't like doing. They might make
an exception here for TJ. Wat It would make some sense.
One of the things that I do love about how
they do business. It's very rare you see a ton
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of dead cat dead you know, money on the cap
and and this this year is one of those instances
where there's not that much dead money on their cap.
And that always helps when you're looking at like a
why did what do these teams have a good amount
of cap space? Or you look at their rollover cap, right,
moneys that weren't spent last year that rollover to this year.
They didn't have a ton from last year to this year,
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but it's it's the top half of the league, and
so that helps in creating additional cap space to extend
out TJ. Watt to sign Aaron Rodgers. So there's all
those things that play a factor. But you know, I
sit there and look at it and say, it's not
gonna be easy to figure out a way of getting
it done.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
But these are two.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Things you desperately need if you want to compete. And
I'm sure if Mike Tomlin has any say whatsoever, he's
pounding the pavement on making this happen. I can't imagine
he wants to go into the season with Mason Rudolph
as their starting quarterback and not have a team that's
anchored on one edge.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
By TJ.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Watt, it is two pros and a cup of Joe.
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Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
Lee lap.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Good more than everybody?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Good morning, Jonas Good, what's up? More drunk?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Good?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
What makes something? I was drunk yesterday? It did look trunk?
Oh you really want me to go through this right now?
For everyone? Sure? Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
So I text Lee content sometimes because.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
You know, Lee might not be always thinking and focusing
on our show when we're not doing our show. I
think about it a lot. That's not true because what
I text about this story, which I don't know when
you're gonna get to this story or if you will.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
But kind of interesting.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
His response to me was, I guess is that a
jiff or a gift, whatever it's called.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It is a gift, yes, and it just it's literally.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Says if you like pina coladas and getting caught in
the rain, it's always sent me.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
It's a picture that like changes from one to the other.
Speaker 7 (34:24):
Yes, And that's because of the story you sent me
about two couples who were online dating somebody else outside
of their marriage and they ended up, uh, you know,
finding each other. So they were cheating on each other
with themselves, which is the gist of the song, Rupert Holmes.
It's all about people who go into the classifieds looking
(34:46):
to see each other.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Pineapples up outside of your house. How would you know, LeVar,
like I saw? Okay, why do you read about that?
You see that? You see them shorts? They say pineapple damn.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
So so what you're saying is when you see that
upside down pine apple, you say.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Oh, well, hello, I go in there, and.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
You you knock on the door and say we'll be here.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I mean, somebody's going to do that, and it's not
going to be me, but somebody is going to do so.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Brady, were you two drunk to realize that?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
That's what I felt like? I heard that from you, Brady.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Wow, Lee, you sent me back at Taco Tuesday thing.
This is the whole situation, dude.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
I said you five seconds back.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Tell us right now, Lee, right now. You really have
to drink yesterday.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
No, not when you had sent that to me. I
had to drink when you said that.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Did you not realize that's the it's a rip off
of Pina Klanas.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Hey, Lee.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It was eight ten pm Eastern.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I was putting my kids to bed and I came
across the scrolling and I was like, I'll send this
to him quick, no disrespect.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
I was not paying attention to what you were doing
with your life.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I used to assumed it was five o'clock Pacific time,
so you had to have been drunk.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Nope, nope, I had wasn't yet.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
I hadn't had eye drink and only had one.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Beer for the game. That's not true.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I actually didn't even finish my beer. Well what was
a point? Uh?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Well, I needed a cold refreshment.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
So hey man, Lee, you habitually lied though to It's
why I can't actually believe anything you say.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
So I'm just saying you put you on game that
this is that was a ripoff story of Pina Colada's
by Rupert Holmes.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I don't know if it's a ripoff story, all right.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
First off, this is a story about a married couple
that gets divorced.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
But I digress. Lee.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Do you have anything else that's original that someone didn't
give you?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I do, well, I have this story from I don't
know if you guys miss this. In case you missed this,
Terry Bradshaw was on the Morning Buzz with Dan Hampton
talking about Aaron Rodgers joining the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
He had some controversial words to say.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Take a listen, what do you think about possibly Aaron
Rodgers being the quarterback?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That's a joke.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
He shouldn't they That is just to me as a joke.
But what are you gonna bring.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Him in for one year?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I mean that's not the Steeler's way right.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
No, man, that guy needs to stay in California, thank you,
jew won't Bark and.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
The gods out there one hundred percent these guys on
the show.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Mister Bradshaw know I'm not a fan of his. We've
been around each other personally and he was not a
kind person. Yeah, he does not. I had to go
over and introduce myself to him. He's not.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
I had to go, Hey, Aaron, I'm Terry Bradshaw.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
I know he knows me, but I just felt like
I better tell him who I am and not.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
You know, you walk in there and you get in
his presence and.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You feel like it's gonna start snowing.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
So somebody there said, that's not the Steeler's way. They
literally just did that with two quarterbacks. They just did
that with two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I think. But you're making the point. You're making the point, Jonas,
that's why this thing is turning into a pressure situation. Yeah,
because they did just do it, and that is the way, right,
It's been out of character further than for years.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I think when they've had success, that's not how they've
gone about doing it. I think that's what they're generally
pointing out is by the way, most teams, you know,
haven't had a tennis success bringing a guy on their
team as opposed to kind of drafting and going through
that model. So I think by and large, if you
can draft them, you know they're kind of home growing
in your system and all that.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
In the NFL.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
That's usually the best way to go about winning a
Super Bowl. So there's some truth to what they're saying,
but like, what's the alternative for this year? Like that's
the problem is if you look at them the history
of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, you're right, that's not how
they've had success. However, if you don't add on Aaron
Rodgers this year, what does that put the team now?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Like you're not in a position to dictate terms anymore.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Like, yeah, for what it's worth, you used Terry Britch
shouts out to my Steelers. I thought the bigger story
here that you guys were missing out on was Phil
Robertson's passing away. Obviously, I was a Duck Dynasty fan.
I watched Duck Dynasty, got to know those guys because
they were under armour guys. But the dad passed away,
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the pod that passed away. Uh. And he was a
quarterback at LA Tech where one and Terry Bradshaw actually
was backing him up down, He backed up Phil Robertson
and Phil ended up. You heard Terry Bradshaw I tell
(39:37):
the story. Phil ended up chasing ducks. Terry Bradshaw ended
up chasing the NFL and chasing.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
By the way La Tech underrated jersey combination color pretty sweet.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
There you go.