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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and Jonas Knox with you here. Yes,
the trio is back and we are talking about a major,
major development. The term f boy, what does it mean?
Two different meetings. We will debate, we will discuss. We're
also going to talk about the latest in the nflpa's
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clown Show with Lloyd Howell, the executive director. We've got
second round draft picks that have not been signed. We've
got speculation about Lebron James getting traded. Plus we've got
another edition of In case you missed it, We've got
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
Let's give this.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh boy, oh oh boy.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Somebody working behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Huh is this Rob Zombie?
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I hope people can leave us the hell alone. Now
he's back. Lat's back here he is. Everyone.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
Any questions y'all want to ask his ask? Y'all ask
him now? God, dang, oh, come on, it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You weren't here to know. Yeah, we were.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
We were going to rattle off the list of conspiracies
that were throwing out there about the whereabouts of one lady.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
I don't appreciate why listeners were saying what did LeVar
do with Brady? As if I had like this extensive
plan to offer you. My plan was the off Brady like,
here you go, what what did you do to him?
LeVar Like, y'all, do you know we live in two
(02:01):
different sides of the country.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You know, it's like, I don't know how i'mould touch you.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
You know, wouldn't you admit that Jonahs looks more like
a serial killer than you do?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I mean, vampire me he might have. Yeah, I thought
transitioned you. I thought there were a lot of racial
undertones with people accused. Definitely was.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
I guess I'm the angry black man that kept Cue
from being on the show. Like that's yeah. I had
to deal with that every day, you know, I was
doing out there. Whoever's out there saying that, Okay, you
need to check yourself. Look at the mirror for a second.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Okay, if anyone's going to murder someone on this show,
it's gonna be joonahs probably murdering someone.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Else, and Lee will be his accomplice. Agreed.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
And for some strange reason, I got this feeling like
Lorraine is going to be ivy, like she's going to
be a part of the whole massacred.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
And yeah, you can laugh about it, you know. Great job, Jonas,
good job. See well, I do know this. He's back.
It's two pros and a cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, so we were tired. That's right, that's over. Yeah,
we had a six week run of Black and Drack
is now here.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Uh so that was it? Now ended, Black and Drac
has been retired.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No boys move, We need to keep that one.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So so uh, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
We are going to take you all the way.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. And uh, yes,
Brady Quinn is back and uh and we're all fired
up and happy to have you. So and we're the
three best friends that anybody could have.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
We're the three best friends that anyone could happen.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
We're the three best friends anyone could happen. I will
never ever, ever, ever ever leave each other. Alright, see
just like that. All right, everybody's back. All right?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So how was uh, how was the vacation?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I mean, how was the time? I mean whatever it
was that, how was it? Okay?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
If we really want to pull back the curtains.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
We had a son back in January, and given the
time of year when we had our son, I really
didn't take any time off. So I talked to our
boss about it, and we wanted to take more time off.
It was our fifth child. It's been awesome. However, with
super Bowl and Draft and everything else, we wanted to
wait until there was a proper time to actually take
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some time off be with the family and all that.
So I wish I could say, at well, what is
he almost six months now? He was sleeping through the night,
But I basically went from transitioning getting up in the
morning with you guys to get him getting up in
the morning with my six month old son, Cad. So
it's been awesome though. It's been a good family time,
good time to be all together kind of see our
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family as we're all growing into it just mass group
of people. But it's been fun, it's been nice. It's wonderful.
Now now people can shut the f up. No, he's bad.
Now our show can be intelligent again. Now it can
be Now it can be entertain again.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
He's back everyone off, all of the people, and I
think our show sucks.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Like when Brady's not here, here you go.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
You shuck LeVar was LeVar was throwing down on a
daily basis on social media.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Well, that was the other thing.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
I took a break from social media, and I don't
I don't know if I'm going back. Boys, I really
did not miss it at all. I do miss some
of the interaction with fans, but but not a lot
of the negative stuff that comes out of it. So
I kind of took a break from that as well.
And yeah, and look, I just I wanted to have
an opportunity to kind of be around the fam.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
You sound fresh, I mean, I'm I'm I'm happy for you.
Well I feel beat down. Hell yeah, I feel beat down.
What's changed? You sound super? Nothing, nothing's changed, But I'm here.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
By the way, miss you did miss this on social media,
And I would echo sentiments because I took a week
off last year when I was when I went on
vacation with the Fam and no social media for a week.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Didn't miss it one single second, like at all, at all.
You can get everything you need.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Uh, there's no drama, no chaos. It's a time suck
as far as your productivity throughout the course of the day.
It just it's way better and way less toxic. But
it's the big booties.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That get me. I try. I try to give it.
I try to give it a huge bitch.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I try to give it.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
A break, but then my algorithm totally like tap gets
in my brain and then yeah, I see it's set
of cannons or canyons and lasers and some hammers, sledge hammers, jackhammers,
hammers of hammers, and and then before I know it,
like I look at my amount of time on the
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screen and it's like an hour. And I don't even
know how it happened. Just I was just scrolling and
just kept seeing things that kept me interested.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I would go that deep with it, sees I.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Wouldn't say no to it, though you wouldn't say no. Notice.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
I mean, I feel like there's other platforms if you're
going that deep with it, you know, if you're yeah,
I mean, I mean ex is totally transitioned to not caring.
And I get that, I guess.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
But can I ask this because I've been away for
a while, I'm sure we get dumped at some point
during the show. Why can you get away with saying
nice beaver but not saying moose knuckle?
Speaker 6 (07:41):
You can get away with saying moose knuckle, But it's
all about the context in which you use it, Like
how you just said it singularly by itself, moose knuckle,
moose knuckle, moose knuckle, a moose knuckle. I mean, it's
it's there's the context is that it's a moose and
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it's its.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Foots do have knuckles.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That's correct if you put it in conversation.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
The same thing with a camel toe, you just can't
use any context to it, like you can't context it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Camels do have toes.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
There you go, right, But I feel like you can
even say you could even say the camel was walking
on its toes or its toes, or you could say
the moose was walking on its knuckles, like you could
get away with saying that putting it in the context
that the actual animal is using its knuckle or its toes,
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you know, But if you were to use it for
something else that applies to the slang term. Then you
put it in a different context, and that would be
a dumple bullefit.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm gonna crocket and crocket.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Are you back on grock now? Oh yeah, yeah, good
for you, buddy. This done little research here? How should
I phrase it? What? What words or term says are dumpable?
Does a moose have a knuckle?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Well, I mean, whether it probably doesn't. It's probably a hoof.
I would assume a moose has a hoof. But if
you wanted to call it a knuckle, I mean, because
it might look like a knuckle to you, then you
call it a moose knuckle. Otherwise and using it in
a different context, it wouldn't be as funny because it's like, well,
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what is even a moose knuckle to begin with?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
All Right, So, according to Grocke, a moose doesn't have
a knuckle in the human sense, but it's leg joints
like the carpel or tarsal joints are sometimes loosely called
knuckles and animals, these are the flexible joints connecting bones
in the legs.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Allowing movement.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
If you're figing to something specific like a bone joint
or a slang term, so it's not the bottom.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's not the bottom of.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Asking me to clarify it. Okay, Well, then who said
that it has to be the hoof? I mean, there's
a moose knuckle there, and it probably protrudes because it's
indeed a knuckle that connects the movie, and that's a
big ass ad.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
My general point was that the context can be stretched
or spread to make it sound like it's you know,
could be attached to anything.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Yes, and it's probably like a big puffy area of
the moose's leg. You see how you see how I'm
towing the line, Coop. I know you're nervous, but I'm
gonna stay on that line and I can walk it.
I won't, but I will. I would certainly say unless
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that moose laid down quite a bit during its day
and times, it wouldn't have worn the furry surface off
of that knuckle area of its leg.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Now that we know it's on the leg and not
the foot.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
By the way, Lea and Lorena looks like they're watching
gunfire right now?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
How about this one, LeVar, What if you put in
that work.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Well, if you put it in that work, then you
like to see if that moose knuckle walking mouths out
of time on that knuckle needed some ice. When I
watched the Animal Planet channel quite a bit last week, okay,
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but I did not see a moose getting its knuckles
ice based off of inflammation.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
We both have a new appreciation for moose, by the way.
You know what delt you missed on social media?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Brady?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Guess what LeVar dusted off and brought back? No mom jokes?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Oh easily, yes, every.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Everything someone said to me, like you efing suck? Where's Brady?
You suck? I'd be like, your mother sucks. Oh gosh.
And that was it?
Speaker 7 (12:14):
Now that in a certain context, definitely, yeah, it should be.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
But I did not mean it in that that that context.
I just meant it the way they meant it, like
they think I stink, and I said your mother stinks.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That's you know, that's kind of what it was.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
But I'm just trying to hit below the knees, you know,
if you're coming for us, like I just I just
like to try to hit below the knees. And I
feel like that was created for a reason to make
things all equal. Because even if you didn't grow up,
like if you had a mom that wasn't a great
mom to you. You still love mom even if you
hate her. So it's like you throw a mom joke
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out there. It's like, I hate my mom, but she's
my mom, you know, so I like I like mom jokes. Really, Yeah,
that's the quick, quick offensive, Like I like to go
into the offensive, you know, type of approach.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
More of the story is, you did not do anything
to Brady. He's back. I mean, that is the story.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I mean, I am really kind of I was flabbergasted
by the idea that people would say what.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Did you do? And I mean multiple times, like what
did you do with him?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Like I went and like knocked Brady out and put
him in a closet somewhere in Iowa with pink walls.
That's what I did. I don't know, I mean, that's
I guess that's what people thought. I with my spare time.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Is that Iowa Sam would claim he was there and
then he knew exactly what the room looked like that
you put me in instead of us were both actually
at that bar in Iowa doing a show actually recounting
what the what the closet looked like.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, easily the most bizarre the most bizarre debate I've
ever heard on sports radio.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It really was. I'd never understood why to dial.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That hill with Sam telling you guys what the place
looked like that you were doing the show from that
He wasn't at It was.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
A narrow ass hallway with with weren't there open open
to the kitchen?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I mean that he kept calling it a generous closet.
It was a closet.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
It was a hallway.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, He's like, yes, it was Sam. You weren't there,
You literally were not there. You've never seen it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I had to handle some of you guys literally and figuratively. Yeah, seriously,
Well listen, uh it's.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Back.
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why you hate on tennis? It's just I don't listen.
Those guys are incredible, off to a great start. What
is center like twenty three or something like that? Great
run already in his career, Alcarez, great run. I have
zero desire to sit at Wimbledon and watch these guys
play like it feels like I.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Don't know, man, that's like a bucket list thing, right.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I've done it.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
I've not done Wimbledon, but I've done big match I've
done I've done tennis events.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I was bored. I'll say that I was bored. Hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
There's a difference though.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
That's like if someone went to a regular season game,
like let's say like late in the year, that's nothing
on the line, versus going to a playoff game or
a super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Now it was a big tournament. That's the biggest tournament, right, Well,
there are some biggest tournaments.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean Wimbledon and hey.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I'm just saying grand yeah, yeah, there's I was at.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
One of the Grand Slams and it was born. I'm
just That's all I say.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Are you Are you able to say which one? He
just was that one or two?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Why can't you say which one or few?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I just don't feel like going down that road I was.
I was down that road and I was born.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
You don't have to you don't have to say anything
other than which I don't know. Wow, because Australian open
movie sweet, you know what's crazy?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I was in New York.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Now, this is a story I very rarely tell because
it's really no reason to tell it. But I was
in New York for most of the US Open and
and for nine to eleven when it happened, like yeah,
(18:48):
yeah yeah, And it was some real tense moments because
people that I was connected to were leaving that same
day at all happened, and we're hitting some we're heading
towards l A.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So man, yeah yeah, so there there you go.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Now that's really what to blame your hatred for tennis.
I don't have a hatred for tennis.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
You associate tennis with Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Much damn Lee? Can we make that out as a
quote direct quote from LeVar? Much like golf. I mean,
I think golf is okay.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Here's my thing with golf. I get that.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
If I was saying, hey, man, let's go to like
one of the top big events, one of the biggest events,
I will.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
I will gotta go once just to see it, right,
I will go.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
I'm good, just just to experience it.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
First off, just you tap out. Meanwhile, you had a
great time in Ireland. I mean you're gonna be drinking
your face off in England.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Oh yeah no, that's listening. But it's the crowd. There's
something about that crowd at Wimbledon that just looks like
if you cut a fartre.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
They are way more. And I've been to golf events before.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think they see more snobby than golf.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I went to the one in Potomac and Maryland. I've
been to Oakmont, you know, it's see. I've been to
waste Management. It's it seems like they're okay with having
more fun. It's okay to have like get faded, you know,
whatever it may be. But for tennis, it's like, oh,
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how dare you raise your voice in cough or say yeah,
good job, Like it's like they shame you for anything
that you do that isn't considered to be proper. So
shame yeah, man, yeah, And I mean like look at you, wow,
man Like. It makes you feel just like a funny,
(20:47):
weird feeling man like. I don't know, it's just a
very very interesting I want to do it once.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
I want to go over there ones I honestly I
may try to go next year, only because Darlington's doing
some of this stuff, so he's kind of connected over
there with it. But even just like the strawberries and cream,
all the different traditions, like that whole thing's wild.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Did you see that?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
How every single strawberry they service picked that morning and
then after they're done with them, they all make them
in a jam and then they start over the whole
next day.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's ridiculous. That's the most.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, you can ask them.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
It's the craziest thing you'd think for an event like that,
Like when else do they do that? Wherefore, however long
wibbled them last? That's what they're doing strawberries.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Huh. That just shows you how boring the event if
that is the highlight.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Of the event is turning strawberries that get the cream?
And how does that compare to the first segment? Where
does strawberries and cream on it cream compared to moose
knuckles and camel toes?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Like this a lee category? Or where does this fall
for lee?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I don't know, great question. Can you get those on
a medi where you go to eat on delivery Wednesday's lead?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Strawberries and cream?
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Yeah? Or moose knuckles or or jambo toes like you know.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Like oxtails.
Speaker 10 (22:11):
Now, I can definitely find oxtails. Yeah, big, you know,
I'll get you a toe with paint on it. Yeah, okay, chitterlings,
you know, the heck do you just say chitter lyns, chitlins, chitlands.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Well, well, I'll say this, what Sinner's doing right now
is impressive. But what I'd ask is is it more
impressive for like a forty year old?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Is that how old Novaka is now? Is he forty?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, he's got to be close. Yeah, he's got to
be close.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Like, is it more impressive as a forty year old
in tennis, which is ancient by the way, to make
the semis or starting to kind of see the run
that like guys like Center Alcatraz are on like now
that we're old men, Like, do you look at it
and just go dang?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Like I wake up and I'm like some days at forty, like.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't know how those guys do it.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
They'd be spanking that ball, man, and they're moving like agile.
You got to understand the pacing of the ball. You
gotta understand the angles of the court. I would say
it's definitely if you can keep up with how fast
that ball be moving at at an older age, that's
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I think that's more impressive than somebody being dominant early.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Well, And the reason I'm bringing up is because at
some point. I'm sure we'll get into some of the
Lakers talk with Lebron and what he's doing at his age,
but I do think there's like there's coming a period
of time where you look at some of these like
all time grades, and there's no doubt Novak's one of
the greatest ever do it. But you look at like
what they're doing at this point in time their career,
and I almost find it more impressive. Like the older
(23:48):
I get, I have greater appreciation for their ability to compete,
and I know he didn't win it, but like to
get to the Semis in Wimbledon and to be as
consistent as he's been, and then to still do it
at this age, like it kind of calls the question too,
like the comments or conversation will eventually have about Lebron
as well.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I think, okay, well, the conversation is now going to
transition over to uh a circus.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
I can't believe we made it to thirty talking about tennis,
but God bless me, you're welcome Wimbledon.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
There you go, most excited.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
We're talking about and cream A little bit for strawberries
and peaches and cream. By the way, uh oatmeal was
was on the sneak. My favorite out of strawberries and cream.
By the way, brown sugar, brown sugar was was in there.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Thank you rever give me some of that brown sugar sugar. No, okay,
DiAngelo Quinn I liked.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I like big butts and I cannot lie. No, I
really liked brown sugar. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
That was good.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Oatmeal too, and Quaker oats, well that's a different type.
I was talking about oakmel Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
How's Lloyd Howe, the NFLPA executive director, will go I.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Did a recap because I was I was talking to
jonas he goes, Yeah, We've talked about this subject at length,
and I'm like, all right, I mean, there's been a
lot of updates. It seems like Mike Flora's got the
red ass for this guy. I'm not sure what Lloyd
how did the Mike Flora at some point in his life.
But we have now, well that's a whole other conversation
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which we have. They're not technically holdouts that of green Upon.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
They are not technically holdouts. Yes, that is correct. They
don't even have a job yet.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Or are you guys standing on this like should Lloyd
Howe be the executive director of the NFLPA.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I don't know how they've Like then they're trying to
like sweeping under Listen, everything's fine, he's been he's been vetted.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
He's far enough away.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Because he works, you know, in in aerospace or defense
for the Carlisle Group. It's like, wait a second. He
works for a private equity firm.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's trying to get equity.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
In the NFL and he's representing the players. Like, I
don't know's how is this allowed? I don't understand it.
And if I was a player, I was asking LeVar
this last week, I'm like, if I'm a player and
I find out that the NFLPA and the NFL struck
some sort of a secret agreement to keep and they agreed, Yeah,
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they agreed to keep the findings from the players. And
the only reason that stuff came out from the arbitration
hearing is because Pablo Torre got ahold of the transcripts.
If I was, if I was a player in the league,
I'm like, wait, what else has gone on here?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
If it just seems like a clown, what else is
going on or what else is going to go wild? Man?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
I just feel like there's already trust issues that exists
between players and the player association. It's always something that
has existed. I think a lot of guys have been
a way that our union, the union that exists for
current players and even when we played, has not been
the best of the unions that are out there, And
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it's always been a to me, it's always been a
continued question as to why is it so hard to
have better representation of what we do? Is it because
of how many of us there are not really sure
what the reasoning is as to why our union is
one of the weakest ones that exists. But it does,
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and then you have something like this take place, and
I feel like, after I've had some time to think
about it, it's like, where does the union go from here?
You can't as a player, you can't just brush this
under the carpet and just believe that it's just simple
to move on from it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
There has to be.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Some really, really uncomfortable and serious conversations that ensue after
having information like this surface.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
So I would I guess I'd take a different approach
on this because I've followed this and there's a few
things that are at play.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
The first is you know, this is about.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Collusion of the owners, which that's like one subject, and
I think that's something that the players union has always suspected,
Like even back during the lockout when I was a
part of those conversations, when I was with Denver, we'd
always suspected that the owners were operating and colluding behind
the scenes together, even though I mean, when it's hard
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to prove, which they were actually able to prove it,
which makes the other point of all this really interesting
that Lloyd how and the NFLPA were able to actually
in court prove it, even though the judge didn't necessarily
make that, you know, direct judgment, but they were able
to prove that there's evidence of that, and yet nothing
really came from it. And I don't know if it
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was about to protect JC Tretterer, as some of the
notes had said, because some of the comments that he
made or what you want to be points to to me,
that doesn't really matter, because I think this is where
I'm at in regards to the NFLPA and the owners colluding.
They've always thought that. Now that there's evidence of that,
it only further confirms that. But what the NFLPA is
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ultimately responsible for is trying to work for and create
the best possible working conditions the players can have. And
to your point, LeVar, you know, it's always an uphill
battle because these owners there's only thirty one of them
majority owners, and then obviously the Green Bay package and
their ownership structure, and so they can work together in
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a much stronger way.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
It's harder to.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
Divide them than it is the thousands of players that
are a part of the NFL and the thousands of
players that will be a part of the NFL who
are playing in college football that aren't even there yet,
that are actually going to be oftentimes entering into the
league under conditions that they were.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Not even a part of voting for.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
So, you know, the entire process for the NFLPA and
educating their players and creating like working conditions around all this,
it's difficult because a lot of the guys that you're
actually talking to you right now about those.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Issues aren't going to be there like.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
In a year or two.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
They're not out of a league. They're done, like they're not
a part of it.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
So that in and of itself is difficult, and I
think it's one of the reasons why when we look
at how the NFLPA, which is now circling the wagons
to protect Lloyd how with a lot of the public
statements they've made. I think it's important because they like
the guy they have as their executive director, and the
contrast to what they have with D Smith was this,
d came from a legal background.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
So what attorneys want to do.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
They won't argue, litigate right like, they want to take
you to court and they're going to draw a line
in the sand. They're gonna say you're wrong, I'm right.
Let's go to court and figure this out. So one
of the things that happened over the course of when
D Smith was our executive director, we went to court
all the time. If you ever looked at the breakdown
of legal fees for the NFLPA when D Smith was there,
they went they skyrot it.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Now, some of that's.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
Gonna, you know, come along with the league and how
it grows too. But that was how he wanted to
do business, how he handled business. That was his background.
You know, Mike Floryio probably resides with D Smith have
been in that because that's Floria's background. He's you know,
more of you know, a legal mind if you will.
You know, Lloyd how is a private equity guy, So
what a private equity guys do they.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Want to make deals with musicians?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah, they want to, and they want to make deals.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
They want to they want to try to, you know,
drive profits, revenue efficiency.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
So you know, in this case.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
You've now got a working relationship with the executive director
and Lloyd Howe, who you know, it might seem like
he's a little more chummy or friendly with the NFL,
I mean clearly the Carlisle Group, and that relationship is
a conflict of interest. I'm still not sure how that
passed the sniff test with PA. But you but I
think you can understand like what we had before d
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Smith was a was a more working relationship because here's
the one thing that we know is going to hurt
the players the most. It's a work stoppage. And that's
where you know, I don't know that we'll ever be
able to threaten as a player union.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I say we even though I'm.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Not really I'm part of the PA, but not like
as a retired player. But I remember being part of
the lockout. Guys were spending through the savings fund. They
saved literally in months, Like we had to divert what
sixty thousand whatever it was or almost seventy thousand, and
guys were through that within two months of the lockout.
So if you really want to look at like what
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everyone's trying to avoid, at least from the NFLPA side,
it's giving anything back in the CBA, but also a
work stoppage because they know there's a lot of players
who are going to be hurting, and there's just there's
no way to prepare players for unless their NFLPA can
somehow get on board with how trying to help out
the college players and you create another union that you're
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kind of partnered with in a way, or however you
go about doing that. I'm not smart enough to figure
that out, but at least now you're talking about the
same working conditions, you know, try to create similar structure there.
So these players are more educated coming from the college
ranks into the NFL ranks, and now you've got some
power and some momentum there as well.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
I just feel as though looking at where all of
this is going and the fact that part of those
conversations that have been had were based around guarantees trying
to do less guarantees in the contracts, and now we're
seeing what's happening with these rookies not wanting to sign
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their contracts. I mean, wasn't the last deal that that
was created basically to help remedy there being air quotes,
because it's not holdouts but remedy rookies being in on
camp on time. That was part of the conversations.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Who does that help though, right in terms of that
helps the owners, doesn't help the players.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
In terms of what making making the contracts where you
can get them done because they're slotted and there's no
real Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, it does. I feel like it does.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Again, I understood the reasoning, like, Okay, you got these
young guys coming in, they shouldn't have these big ass,
you know, contracts and all that stuff, And okay, I
get that, earn your contract, go into your second contract,
no holdouts. But now it's created holdouts because they don't
want to have whatever those guarantees that are in their contracts,
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they don't want to do them. And then you have
somebody jump out a line from Cleveland and he does
guaranteed contracts and it doesn't seem like they're on the
same page. It looks as though people look at Cleveland
and want to judge, you know, Haslam and those guys,
is if they're doing the wrong things. I don't know
who's doing right or who's doing wrong. What I will
(34:39):
say is definitively, I don't think there's clarity on on
transparency with the people that are representing the players, and
that to me is a problem. If I were in
the league right now, I'd be lawyering up and I
would want to understand what is going on. How am
I being represented here? Because they don't just represent you
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with how your contracts are you know those things that
are handled. They also represent your name, image and your likeness,
and you got the group license and agreements there. There
are things, there are elements connected to that, and I
just would want to know everything that's going on. I
would want my lawyer because I don't pretend to act
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like I would understand all of the jargon connected to it,
but I would want to make sure that me personally,
I would want to make sure that my interest is
being best represented to the fullest. If not, then there
needs to be a different conversation that takes place with that,
which I don't know what that looks like, because again,
(35:43):
what are your alternatives? What are the alternatives? Oh, I
don't like what they're doing. My lawyer says, they don't
like what they're doing. Even if we were to take
legal action, what does that lead to?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
You know what they should do? Hire Tony Buzby.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Just freak everybody class at your lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, yeah, he gets stuffed done. That would be a
pretty big lawsuit potentially.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
That he seemed to go, we'll figure out something there.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, it seems like he's got a uh, there's a
trend there with Tony Busby.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
He's got a uh, you know, women involved with it.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
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Speaker 9 (37:48):
Guns In case you missed it, and Donald Can Sue
has called it a day.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
At age thirty eight, just.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
This weekend, he decided to take to X and announce
his retirement after thirteen seasons in the NFL. He did
this on the one year anniversary of his father's passing,
crediting him with his career and.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So that's the end of an era for Atomickin Sue, he's.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Congrats, hall of famer. Yeah, I was just gonna ask
that that is.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
A bad mofo right there. I'm just telling you, man,
he used to just step on people dodgeball with him.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
But he I mean, he was the type of guy
that was a quarterback that would get in your head
because of what he would do after the play, how
he would try to hit you, bury you.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Like you knew.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
He was the type of guy if he got a
clean shot on you, especially in today's game now how
it's officiated, he was going to try to, you know,
land all on top of he could, or try to
get up under your little rip protectors and get those ribs.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah yeah, So what else was dude? Right there?
Speaker 9 (38:48):
In case he missed a cal rawle, he was going
for the home run record. He wanted to tie the
thirty nine home runs Ferry Bonds hit before the All
Star break. He had a chance. He was there at
the top of the ninth versus the Tigers. The Tigers
decided to instead intentionally walk him semester, robbing him of
the chance.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
That's what they get, that's what baseball gets.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Oh, come on, give him. It's not the end of
the season. He's going for the all time home run record.
It's the All Star break record. It's some manufactured number
they throw out there, like who cares a big deal if.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
You want to start thirty eight thirty eight?
Speaker 9 (39:20):
He hit two homers on it was Friday or Saturday,
and he had a chance to tie Bonds on Sundays.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Like that's some record of note, Like, hey, who's got
the all time record before the All Star But.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
He's on But wouldn't you say that? He puts them
on right, puts him on pace.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Now.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Now here's here's the thing. The rest of the time
after the All Star break, he needs to looking.
Speaker 7 (39:39):
Around the rest of his teammates and be like, listen, fellas,
get your ass on base.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So they just can't keep walking me.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
Because that was one of the things about Bonds was
when he was in his heyday. Everyone would just walk him,
like didn't they famously walk in a run one time, yeah,
instead of instead of letting him hit.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yeah, I mean, it's gonna get to a point.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
If he stays on the streak, He's it's gonna get
in that territory where if there's not dudes on base,
they're gonna be like, all.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Right, just throw them on first. Just let's just walk them.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I don't I don't care if Bombs was on the
gas or not. The greatest player I've ever seen in
my life that I've seen in my lifetime, Barry Bombs is.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
The best I've ever seen, definitely.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
He was the most fun to watch as a kid
outside of the McGuire Sosa Like that whole back and forth,
the Barry Bonds era when he was when he was
hitting like that was the best I was.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
In college during the Sosa McGuire run. It's pretty interesting
that being on campus when that was saying, because we
were on like a home run derby competition that season too.
Oh yeah, A couple of my teammates, Yeah, we were
swinging up, we were we were swinging for a wall.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Swinging below the knees. They were saying, we're swinging in
at that