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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Wednesday edition, we look back at the
MLB All Star Game and we had a swing off
and how fantastic was that? Is it the most American
sporting event we have? We will discuss. We're also going
to talk about the New York Jets, and while everybody's
focused on the positive, we're going to look back and
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we're going to talk about the Mount Rushmore of rubbish.
That's right, We're gonna get into that for you here.
We're also going to have a conversation about what happens
in Washington when it comes to Terry McLaurin. Could we
see history when it comes to Shamar Stewart going back
to college in the world of football. We're also going
to have a discussion about breeding. If you're looking for
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an athlete one, Dad's got the plan. We've also got
another edition up in case you missed it, and we've
got Lee's Leftovers plus Petros Papadaka stops by. It's all
yours coming up next here. Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe on a Wednesday. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:34):
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Speaker 1 (01:37):
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We'll be taking you all the way up until nine
am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific here. And boy, oh boy,
that was a heck of an All Star game last
night there. How do we feel about it?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Ah? Goh l.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I was not aware of the home run derby situation
that at the end of the end of the game
to avoid extra innings, So that was.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
New to me.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'm like, okay, here we go. Yeah, I'm making up
rules as we go. I don't think I don't think
some of the people involved were aware of it either,
you know, looking around the dugout, going, hey, where's where
are judging?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Otani? All there at the airport? All right?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So you guys fill in and then they try and
spin it afterwards as well. You know these were all
predetermined before the game. Oh yeah, so Dave Roberts who said,
yest hours, I just told him a few minutes ago
he was going to be a part of this.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Like it's look, it's an exhibition. It's not that big
of a deal. But let's like, you know, get the
story straight before we run with those That's what it
feels like to me. But that's not exaggeration by the way, either.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Like those guys, as soon as they were done, all right, boys,
good see out there in the field.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I mean, they are out of there.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
There's no reason to hang around to like watch the
rest of these seven or eight innings of the All
Star Game. So that's a true story. They actually dip
more often than not.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Var did you bail at the Pro Bowls?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
That's why you didn't hear me, that's you know, I
just I'll defer to you guys on that one, because well,
extra innings. I would have needed to do the regular
innings to to be able to do the extra innings.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So there you go. Well I heard it was pretty
good though, Well I'm saying I'm saying what.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I heard all did well. Uh no, I didn't. Well, no,
I played. I played in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I know you played play, But I'm saying, like, did
you bail out after something else?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I don't know because I heard exactly are we we talked?
Because some things I might have bailed on, well, some
things I might have stayed in there, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Depending on I remember hearing the story for the party.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I remember hearing a story that Troy Aikman left mid game,
like he left at halftime of the Pro Bowls.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Like, yeah, that's okay, So so that is what you
guys are saying now, I don't I never bailed in
the game. In fact, I played every play like some
guys started playing in the second half. I was out
there head hunting in the first half, first quarter, I
was out there, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I was hunting.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I'm talking about yeah, but you know it, definitely you
could tell that. Like I remember distinctly one time I
hit Corey Dillon and he was really upset at me,
like why would you hit me that hard?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
And I didn't play against Corey Dillon in regular season.
So anytime I you know, I'm out there, I'm out
there like I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Out there playing for keeps in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
So yeah, I don't know, I didn't leave, but guys definitely,
you know, when we got to the second half, they're like, man,
you know, you start looking around and dudes is like, hey,
you know I got eight people here, Well I have fifteen,
I have twenty.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well what are you going to do. We're going to
play some ball. Let's get that.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Let's get that, win the game check, you know. And
so guys would play in the second half, but I
was already warmed up because I came out ready to
play in the first quarter. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, so you stuck around, you didn't You didn't head
to the airport like some of these guys did last night.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
No, no, But I thought you were talking about like dating,
my dating life, you know, like if we were talking
about dating because I was a serial dater at the
Pro Bowl, you know, serial dater.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh yeah, what exactly that? Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Well, you know, you go to the Pro Bowl, you date,
and what whoever you date there is it began and
it ends.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
To meet me by the tiki torch at midnight. Let's
see what happened.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, and sometimes you bailed out on the dating and
ended up dating someone out someone else, and and then
possibly you stayed in it while you was in you know,
you know in Honolulu, you know waki Ki, like you
stayed in, you know, for for the duration.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, I don't know if those guys went to go
date anybody else. Yeah, I don't know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So I got a little confused on the lingo, you
know what I mean, bailing out staying in. There were
a couple that I was good with, sting in with.
There was a couple that I bailed out on, and
you know, I just had to continue to date a
little bit more.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's all, you know. Do you guys know it was fun?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Did you guys have do you have an issue with
the fact that some players might have left early and
just said we're out of here, even though it's, you know,
Baseball's biggest stage, the Midsummer Class kind of funny actually
to me, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is it really Baseball's biggest stage?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Well, you know, it's where all their stars are all
in one place, the World Series. Yeah, but it's all
their stars in one place. There's it's for the fans.
And you know, these guys gave a couple of innings
and they're like, all right, we'll see you.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
We're good here. Nice I got.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I mean, I don't have an issue with it, but
I could understand that there's some people that look at
that and go, no, you should stick around for the duration.
Like you're playing one hundred and sixty two games, you
get a few days off. I get them wanting to
be like, all right, I need some time. They go
through the whole spectacle, the introduction to all that stuff,
and then they jam and then afterwards it's just funny,
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you know, people trying to give you the messaging that,
oh no, it's all predetermined lineup, so you know, not
really like if it was, there probably would have been
some other hitters out there, but it.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Was still a fun game, fun game, and the rule.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Of them were my hitter. I was a hitter that
was out there. You know, I was out there. But
baseball is a little different.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I mean I heard about how dug outs, you know,
or how the bullpen works or whatever, like don't they
be hanging out like in the clubhouse and stuff like
that until it's to say it, Like, I just feel
like the rules of engagement maybe are a little bit different.
Like maybe a game of baseball is a tad bit
more casual and approach than than maybe what football would
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have been. Is that is that fair to say? I'm
not a baseball guy, so I don't. But I mean,
from what I could gather, it is a very very
relaxed environment if you're not on the field, which I
feel like it's kind of relaxed on the field too
a little bit, because you know, you got to wait
for somebody to hit it.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Brady, you are Paul Skins back in the day, uh throwing.
I don't know that I was ever.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Paul Skins, by the way, but I will say this
washing him pitch. I was like, this is probably this
generation's version of Nolan Ryan's. Yeah, is that too big
of a statement? Only because I don't know that he
throws as hard as Nolan Ryan did?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Like, does he does? Does he? I feel like Nolan
Ryan topped out of like one oh four. I don't
see that. Am I making stuff up at this point?
I don't know if he threw that hard, but he
got arm he got his arm end up getting shredded.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
No, he pitched, He's forty four. He pissed forever. Dang
that's going to be one of the biggest differences. But
the thing about understand how fast that is. I'll tell
you that.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
The thing about schemes is there's been some speculation will
the Pirates trade him, because you know, he's such a
premier talent that everybody would love to have on their team,
and the Pirates clearing and well, they're clearly not going anywhere.
They don't have enough to build around him. Last night
was the second time in his career that he's been
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on a team that scored more than one run in
the first inning. He gets no run support. He gets
none in Pittsburgh, and so the thought is he's kind
of wasting away there for lack of a better term,
not having any ability to advance anywhere, to go anywhere
for it. And you know the Pirates are going to
want to try and keep him as long as they can,
but at some point got at least kick the tires
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on a trade. And they've traded top stars before. That's
been their history, especially over recent years. I mean, just
to think about what you.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Traded Barry Bonds and Bobby Bonillah, they rid of them.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
They trade everybody like if they've got a star was
like with that group too, and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, Doug Drey back, all those guys.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I mean that was that talk about a loaded team
that didn't do it? Nuh yeah, sheesh, interesting but skeens.
I did watch baseball back then. I was a fan
of the the Pirates.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I watched Willie Stargell remember now big time? Okay, yeah,
big Willie Stargel Guy. Here's the Nolan Ryan update.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
By the way, his fastest recorded pitch was officially one
hundred point nine miles per hour in nineteen seventy four. However,
the way pitch speed was measured back then was different
than today's methods. There's some estimates say they would be
mesh in today's standards at around one hundred and eight
one hundred and eight.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's still really fast. So they've got fastball inflation. One
hundred and eight an hour.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
That would have been it would have been faster, faster
because of the way they measure one hundred and nine.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You imagine trying to hit one away one hundred point nine.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's like one o one oh okay, he imagine trying
to hit one aweight, Like, what do you do?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
What's the point it's gone isn't it. I mean, a
hundred is gone. How do you even see one hundred
and eight? That's like literally a bullet, right, Geez's out there.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Shooting a burner? Yeah, he was, he was. This is crazy.
So do you know how they do?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You know how they actually clock uh pictures speed nowadays
versus how they used to somber.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Like they use.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
No, it's not, but that's how they used to do it.
They set up the radar again like ten feet behind
or feet in front of home plate, and that's how
they'd measure it. But the problem is the ball at
that point was decelerating.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
So that's why the.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Estimate that actually in today's standards, where they actually measure
the speed of the ball off the pitcher's hand, which
is its fastest point, that's why they estimate that it'd
be one hundred and eight vers about one hundred and one.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Guys today throw so hard in Major League Baseball it's
you're gonna see somebody come out of a bullpen on
a rock. Like there's teams that have two three guys
sit on a rocket. Year they're throwing one hundred out
of the gates, one hundred two, one hundred three, that
guy Misowski for the Brewers clocks in at one oh
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two regularly like it's just a common occurrence. And then
they wonder why some of these guys they're like the
arm injuries and those issues have popped up and more
teams have dealt with it. It's why the Dodgers keep
blowing through a lot of guys and their rotation. Otani
threw over one hundred this year, like he clocked in
at over one hundred, So everybody's throwing hard these days.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
If you were the most American thing ever, the most
like you you hit the ball, and you you throw
that baseball.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You can over that plate.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
So American things that are the most American thing is
a deep ball, an explosive play and sport.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's fun, but it's not the most American people play.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
People play baseball abroad. It's to the point, thoughball is
America's game.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, but Levart's to the point though, to where if
you throw over one o two, when the ball hits
the catcher's mitt, red white and blue smoke pops out
like it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Is America, do you get to the quarterback? That's the
most American thing? Like defense, Hello.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
There's there's here's the problem. Here's the problem. There's too
many intricacies or details along the way, like your move,
your rush, what you got to do to get by
the guy.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
The whole thing. This is semantics, this simple.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
There's no semantics in me stepping back and just ripping
one across the plate at one hundred and four miles.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
When you put your body on a Brady Quinn and
he goes down to the ground, and you hear that when.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
You hear here's the worst part is your first your
first example was the American, which I would be able
to tell you, and I'm telling you playing both sports,
there's nothing more. There's nothing more American, yeah than just
ripping one past the dude on the mountain, walking off
as spit and spit towards that other dugout.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So what's up?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Where'd you get your weapons? I cut down a tree
in the backyard and made it myself.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Come on, man, serious.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And you know the best part to all this talk about, Hey,
you know you gotta all this talk about you got
to stay away from tobacco. You gotta you gotta be
careful with that stuff. Guys are still walking around with
rock in their mouth.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I mean guys dipping in football games. Hello, I think
it's zens now, right, isn't everyone the zen?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
You know?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Fact? I tried.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I tried like two of those the other day with
Mike Body, Maddy your age where he's a little younger
than you, mighty mighty younger than Yeah, he's younger than you. Yeah,
you know from the uh the team that stayed him
and Zortage and all those guys that stayed when O'Brien
was at and O'Brien was after you came out, Right,
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Joe was still coaching when you were in college.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Joe so there, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was still there,
so you New York. And Maddy's a little younger than you,
but he was young.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
What would he be yelling on the sidelines when he
was at in South Poo Joe, Joey.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Hey, hey, get him mad?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
It?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
What is it doing? Get him mad? I'll send you
on a train. I'll send you back on the bus
she came from. I send you back, Hey, telling them
I send them back. They can't do that these days.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
You say that, First of all, you didn't bring me
here on a train or on a bus. I got
that nil money. I came in a hell Cat or
you know, one of them joints he'd be driving. That
is crazy seeing the parking lot of a college, a
college parking.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Lot these days, bro, it is a car show like
you would who there's so many hell Cats? Why is
that the car choice? You know? You know, I don't know.
I do not know. It's a great question. I do
not know.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
And well, they're upgrading these days, man, Like I'm seeing
a whole lot more Mercedes Benzes too, and they're like
all kinds of different colors and stuff like that, Like
they really be tricking these riots out. Man. I don't know, man,
But the hell Cat you hear them as soon as
act is over, you know it's over. Like when I'm
up there now and I'm doing the show and guys
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are coming and going, you could hear drive like twenty
thirty cars like just hell Cats just turning on and
rolling out, and everybody wants you to hear their tires
and all that stuff. So I don't know, man, but
hell Cat is almost like the vehicle of choice for
college athletes.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I don't know. I don't know. Have you ever driven one? No?
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Not, Yeah, I'm never I've driven an SRT before, but
I've never driven a hell Cat.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I don't, you know. I don't know. I've driven a
Challenge shits not that, yeah, just not Hellcat. Yeah, I don't.
I don't know. Man.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I like muscle though, I got I got some old
school muscle cars, you know, I got. I got six
one six three is six' four And paula got some.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Linking, uh leave behind the. Scenes try to figure. Out
this whole camera situation is like entertaining in and of.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Itself i'll be honest with, YOU i. Distract there are
so many links that have been sent. OUT i don't
know which one to. CLICK i just go To, god
which one is? It are they all the? Same the
one for, You jonas is the, one, yes, Yes no.
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then there's text. Messages i'm, LIKE.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I will keep you off the one that's, RECORDING i.
DON'T i don't know right.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Now the only one that's being recorded is, You, jonas
and you're Already you're already on that. One so don't
worry about the one that says recording, okay.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Okay so the other, one the other, one, OKAY i
got you.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
All.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Right well listen now we're off and running here on
A wednesday. Morning congratulations To Kyle.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
SCHWARBER i Guess i'm in that waiting, room the one
that's For. JONAS i Guess i'm waiting. ROOM i don't, know, man, whatever.
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Speaker 2 (19:04):
Room that is for certain. Man well it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
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Jonas NOx with. You uh coming up here and we'll
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Speaker 2 (20:38):
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Speaker 1 (20:47):
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Speaker 2 (21:28):
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Speaker 1 (21:35):
Him, OH i mean even THOUGH i, Won even THOUGH i,
WON i won't.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Even acknowledge, it not even gonna it was a great.
Call that was a good. Call, Yeah joe does a great. Job.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
MAN i, thought you, KNOW i Thought John schmoltz was.
GREAT i think he did a great job last night
on the. Call, personally believe our feelings About.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Joe davis is my whole play by play, partner and
So jonas for some recent this always been odd, about you,
know Just joe And i's, friendship very, salty very. PROTECTIVE i,
know you, know it's really it's it's interesting BECAUSE i
WOULD i would be calling a game On saturdays Or,
sundays and Then i'd come to do the show With
jonas and he always felt.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Like you, know he was kind of second in.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Line, yeah, like, Hey i'll get to you when WHEN
i get done with. This so, okay, yeah that's, disappointing
but it's. Fine, Listen joe does a great job and
they had a great call last night and THEY i
hope everybody enjoyed The All Star game because that was
fun and the the swing off at the end was.
Fantastic so, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah that's.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
It here's the thing, IS i don't know IF i
said this one and we, OPENED i don't mind it at,
All LIKE i actually it's a fun idea as opposed
to playing extra. INNINGS i just didn't know that was
part of the. RULES i was just, like, oh, okay
here we. Go we'll see this thing.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Goes BECAUSE i Think Joe davis made the comment where he,
said you, know The All Star game can't end in a,
tie we're not going to play or we're not going
to play extra. Innings he, said we'll explain what happens
next if we get to that, point and then once
they got, there, like, oh by the, way we're gonna
have a swing off and everyone's, like wait, really and it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Was it was, awesome just hitting. Bombs schwarber hitting Bombs, America.
America damn. Right all.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Right so one team that's trying to trying to hit bombs,
themselves trying to turn things around there as an, organization
and that team is The New York. Jets another day
and we've got another contract extension to be handed. Out
congratulations To Sauce. Gardner he gets a four, year one
hundred and twenty point four million dollar, contract eighty five
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point six million dollars guaranteed and all Pro he is
a cornerstone of the. Franchise yesterday they were able to
get the deal, done and we talked about it With
Garrett wilson or the day.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Before rather we talked about it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yesterday now they get the deal done For Sauce, gardner
so he now becomes the highest paid cornerback based on average.
Salary so felt like a no. Brainer The jets get it.
Done so, congratulations some positive news for The New York
jets for.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
A, Change, LeVar yesterday you Said Gara, wilson who's now
paid as a top five wide. Receiver you didn't think
he was a top five wide. Receiver would you say
the same now As Sauce. GARDNER i believe this puts
him up there within the TOP i think three this
Surpasses Derek stingley's.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
DEAL i think cornerback is a little bit more difficult
to kind of make the. ASSESSMENT i think he's, played
he's played, WELL i, mean and he's been, available AND
i think that that's a major piece to. It sometimes
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the stat line can, lie AND i MEAN i think
the only time it really doesn't lie in some cases
is if they have inflated stat at the cornerback's.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Position but like past.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Defense like in twenty two he, DID i, mean you
tell me he had twenty two or twenty past defenses
in twenty, two which is by far his. Best in
twenty four he only had. Nine now AGAIN i look
at that AND i, say, well they might not have
went his, way and so, therefore you, know his coverage
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was was so well done that you know they didn't
throw the ball his. Way he's never had that many iron.
T'S i mean he had two his rookie year was
clearly his most productive, year and then twenty, FOUR i
mean he had one iron T i, MEAN i. Don't
the stats don't say that he's an elite, corner BUT i,
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mean you look at how he plays the, game he
is an elite corner and he is the type of
corner that The New York jets. Need SO i think
the BIGGER i think the bigger point here About Sas
gardner is he is a guy that they view as
a core. Guy obviously we did talk About garrett. Yesterday
they look at him obviously as a core. Guy SO
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i think it's A i think this is. Good WHETHER
i think he's like a top WHICH i do think
he's a top, CORNER i do is it top corner back?
MONEY i, mean is it the same conversation as? Quarterbacks
he's it's his, Time he's. Up that's what it sounds.
Like but it almost feels as though with this new
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regime that they have right, now it feels as though
there's a more aggressive approach to making sure that the
culture maybe is being, created a new culture maybe being.
Created and the best way to start creating a new
culture is by getting the leaders on your team on
the same page and having them happy and having, them you,
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know committed to wanting the team to be a better,
team and it looks like that's what they're trying to
do by completing these.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Contracts do you Think Sauce gardner tried to negotiate for
a change in ownership just so they could turn things
around from like a winning, standpoint BECAUSE i feel like
they've had good players there over the.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Years it's not like they've lacked. Talent it's not like
they've thought they were going to the Super bowl last.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Year, WELL i mean the roster was, there but then
YOU i forgot. That you, know there was a guy
in a unicycle who was a juggling bowling, pins.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Which about way that's still, There SO i, mean how
does that?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Work this is positives though these are two.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Positives, no, no but these are also like no, brainers,
Right these aren't hard decisions that The jets have, made you,
know you Extend Garret, WILSON i think jonas you brought,
up is it too? Early but as he pointed, out
we talked with, him you always want to try to
get to the guys that you feel like our foundational
players early in their career because it's going to be
cheaper than the. Alternative And Dallas cowboys have been, example of.
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THAT i, Mean Micah parsons is gonna get, paid and
they've put that off. Forever so Sas, Gardner Gara. Wilson
from their rookie, years you knew that these guys are
probably gonna see. It you, know, extensions those are, Easy
like the hard things are figuring out and moving. Forward
how do you find an offense that, fits you, know justin?
(28:21):
Fields how do you find the piece around him that's
that's gonna make it all?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Go and do you have any?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
PATIENCE i mean that's one of the biggest things THAT
i think WHEN i think of The New York jets right,
NOW i don't look at them as a. CONTENDER i
think they're a team that it's kind of a let's
see what we. HAVE i, mean that's how they're gonna
handle justin, fields or that's kind of how they view.
Them is anyone under the impression that like they're looking
at him as the guy's gonna come in and take
them to the playoffs right? Away, yeah we're still saying if he,
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can if he can play the way we think he's capable. Of,
Right SO i look at it and, say this, is you,
know these are no, Brainers these are the easy. Decisions
if you're The New York, jets whether you're doing your
ratings Off madden or, however you know their ownership group
has has done. It these ones are the easy. Ones
you don't Need madden to tell you, this or it
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probably already. Does, anyway it's everything else moving forward and
then being patient With Aaron glenn to allow him to
lay down the foundation of the organization he wants to
be able to, coach and not getting in the way of.
IT i, Mean Whaty johnson has constantly gotten the way
of this.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Team, yeah that's the.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Key it just feels like as long as he's, there
there's a, ceiling they're never going to get.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Passed and, hey if.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
They're happy with, it, whatever just continue, on continuing. On
by the, way Didn't Woody johnson also buy part ownership
stake AND psg the soccer team as well, Too so they're.
Screwed SO i, mean, LISTEN i, mean if you're going
to do it for The, jets do it for them. Also,
NOW i do have a fun little game show for
you guys, here all, right little bit of digging. Here
i'm gonna call this the Mount rushmore of rubbish all
(30:03):
right here in THE.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Nfl all.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Right so on the subject of The jets paying another
player on their, roster it got me to thinking the
mount rushmore of. Rubbish the four teams with the worst
records in THE nfl in the last ten. Years who
wants to start will go one at a, Time Brady,
quinn you were first.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Up oh, Man i'm not going to start off with
the first seat that came to. MIND i, mean The
jets have to be a part of. It that's why
you're asking this. Question that is.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Correct there's one one knocked off the, List. LeVar that
was not the first ONE i thought of for the, Record, LeVar, LeVar,
okay Worst, raiders, no shut, up believe it or.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Not just top, four believe it or.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Not No?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Raiders how many?
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Years ten? Years last ten? Years worst record in THE.
Nfl that is.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Correct The Cleveland browns is. Correct so there's two of the.
Four Var i'm scared to. Go, now how did The
raiders not make that? LIST i think you're Forgetting oh,
MAN i JUST i. DON'T i. Don't. Tennessee, No tennessee
(31:20):
is not on. It i'm. Done come. On jackson sticks.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Picks jacksonville is. Correct jacksonville is the third. Team all,
Right so we have The, jaguars we have The, jets
we have The. Browns we are missing one. Team worst
record in THE.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Nfl crazy to say over ten? YEARS i, mean could
we throw The Detroit lions in?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
There, No lions are not on that. List, yeah they've
been good the last few Or miami ten. Years that's a,
wow it's a.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Decade i'm gonna go with The commandos, Incorrect washington is, Incorrect.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
The Carolina panthers. Incorrect The Carolina panthers are outside the.
MOUNTAIN i don't care because they're. Garbage any like? These
hold the, team hold on The bears. Incorrect The bears
are at.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Five The bears are at, five right outside The Mount
rushmore of rubbis worst records in THE nfl the last ten.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Years, oh is this like The? Giants that is?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Correct The New York giants are part of The Mount
rushmore of. Rubbish the four teams with the worst records
in THE nfl the last ten. Years so we've got
The jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Before before we recap the last. Four you just how
many did we just?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Name? Though betweting Lavarn i ten eleven h about ten,
probably so we literally.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Named about a third of the league and that's our.
Impressions they've opened that. Bad and there was a couple
of the teams that were in the back of my,
MIND i, Was, god they probably weren't that bad of
the last ten. Years when fans want to, know, like,
hey what are my? Team what's his chances this? Year
if we winning Super? Bowl like Super?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Bowl Super? Bowl, like, man they're gonna win some football.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Games forget Super, bowl like you just you hope to
have a winning, Record LIKE i don't think people understand
how hard it is to get an organization to consistently
succeed and win football.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Game there are nineteen teams with a below five hundred
record the last ten.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Years, wow so.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Literally two thirds of the league is looking at this,
gone oh, yeah we just have no.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Shot and the other thing.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Is when you use that as an example AND i
try to explain it to, People i'm, like, yeah the,
organization the circumstance situation you go into matters more than anything,
else because a, DECADE i don't care who guy drafted,
there who you signed, there those guys are coming.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Gone like those players you can put on the players
all you want they've come and.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Gone you could, say, oh they wouldn't part of the.
Solution well, yeah but neither were any of the. Guys
the only thing that's remained constant in those ten years
is probably the ownership unless, yeah they messed, up which
probably there's a change in ownership during The Carolina, panthers
which it was actually not a part of.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
That that at bottom.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Four, Yeah so the The jaguars for the record fifty
five and one oh nine over that. Time The jets
are fifty six and one oh, eight and then The
giants And browns were fifty seven and one oh six during.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
That that is, disgusting so, bad, geez talk about.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Embarrassing The giants are one of the most stoic organization at.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
ALL i wouldn't thought they. WERE i mean they're almost
run through like three coaches in like what one.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Year The giants are almost fifty games under five hundred
and ten.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Years that is. Wild that is. Crazy, Yeah so there it.
Is you're mount rushmore of. Rubbish here on the. Show
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with you coming up, next, here, though somebody's making. Threats
somebody is making threats to a person we've talked about
on this show many times.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
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Speaker 2 (36:01):
It for, that we turn it over to our executive,
Producer Lee.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
La good morning, Everybody good, Morning, jonas good Morning, brady
good Morning.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
LeVar.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Guys in case you missed, It, uh, well.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
We've talked a lot about this Whole Angel reaes Versus Caitlyn,
CLARK rg, Three Ryan, clark they get them their names
in the in the mix as.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well, well you know who else just threw their hat.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
In it Was shaquille O'Neil on The off The record
podcast and he had something to say TO rgi three
about his post About Angel.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Reese let's take a.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Listen speaking of MAN rg three tweeting tweel another monkey
post about my, girl angely some punch in your. Face it's.
ENOUGH i don't want stuff like, this but just stop, it,
bro you got your job for. Podcast leave My angel rees.
Alone i'm the one call her and telling her not to.
Respond stop. It that's the last. Time, okay thank. You
(36:55):
that's not real hate or what's going on in this real.
Country that's. Hate this is this is. Sports i'm not
supposed to like. You it's a shame that all the
stuff you did in your, life you're gonna be remembered
for your podcasts that you tell you you're not a
GREAT i don't want to be remembered for Your shack's
A bit. PODCAST i do not Like leao's curls. Along
you already spoke on it thet it, Go so what
(37:17):
he hates? Her so WHAT i hate?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
You?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Now LIKE i don't mind you doing your saying, anyone
but don't pick on that little girl because guess, What
i'm a. Protector now pick on, me you pick on,
Me i'm a punching your, Face.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Lee can you?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Explain, Okay, yeah we had some context on this what was,
Tweeted so he, Tweeted he retweeted what was going, around
which was a.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Racist photoshop he BEING rg.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
Three, YEAH rg three retweeted of racist going photoshop of That.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Angel put that's loosely put LIKE rg three. Repost somebody
must have sent it TO rg three because nobody else
on record of seeing the.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Photo it was retweeted by R g three but, no
so he gave it life.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
C so it was it was a person a monkey
With Angel reese's.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
Uniforms so, Yeah Angel reese is going to be on
the cover of THE nba TWO k video. Game and
basically somebody photoshopped her as a, monkey which is obviously and.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
He posted it basically saying that he like racism In
america or in the, world there's no place for. It
and he started it off as if he was defending
the idea of this is ridiculous that somebody would post,
this but he crow barred into the. Post you, know
(38:37):
BUT i stayed away from talking about this because you
you said things that had my wife and my kids
getting you, know threats and stuff like.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
That so he started.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Ranting about the original issue and totally went away from
the essence of what he had perceivably posted it.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Before so let me just signize. This, yeah go, ahead go.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
It angel rees said something ABOUT rg three because he's
BEEN i guess critical of.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Her is that?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Fair and then he turns around and posts something that
didn't originate with him maybe but someone sent it to
him and he gives it life and then goes off
on his spiel back to.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Her is that where we're?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
At but then but then kind of wraps it up and,
well somebody From Angel reese's camp called me or hit
me up and said That Angel, reese that you were
RIGHT rg. Three Angel reaes definitely Hates Caitlin. Clark so
who knows how he pulled all of the elements together
that he put into his tweet banter or ex, banter
(39:45):
but that was like the genesis of.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
It but the point is is Now shaq wants to
beat him.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Up this should have been a second honestly because there's
a lot of meat on.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That BUT i, mean go to break