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Thursday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Pro Football Hall of Fame kicks off tonight and the guys believe there’s been a shift in how teams value reps. Aaron Rodgers defends “The Man,” Mike Tomlin, from all his critics. Plus, Gilbert Arenas gets popped for an illegal gambling ring.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, the NFL is back. It's
the Hall of Fame game. Don't be critical, just embrace it.
We will and actually we're gonna make some bets on
the game as well too, live on the air, so
stick around for that. We're also going to have a
conversation about Aaron Rodgers sticking up for his head coach,

(00:22):
the latest on Trey Hendrickson, will he actually sit out?
Will Micah Parson sit out? Shannon Sharp minding his own
business and catches astray from Kwame Brown. We will discuss
that as well too. Plus we've got another edition of
In case you missed it, Albert Breer stops by and
it's Lee's Leftovers. All of it is yours coming up
next here, Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox

(00:42):
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Let's give this.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
And then sure, Jude, who come on?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
You know you can feel it sticks well.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'm in I'm in the last building, Doe.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
You can feel like Latimer Alvin Mack right now, baby
spitting in mouths scow Man, not not that deep. Come on,
man to the extreme.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
It is uh, two pros and a cup of Joe.
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app.
You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across
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until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. And football's back.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Football's come on.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Got the Hall of Fame game.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
It's come on, man, it's back.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I feel like you guys are making fun of it.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
No, I love it. I don't know how long I'm
gonna watch it for, but it will be on in
the vicinity for the entirety of the game. All right,
I'll just say that. Okay, it is because after this
it's all downhill. Like we were past the rough parts.
We don't have to worry about sex toys and wigs
falling on the floor at a w NBA game anymore.

(02:20):
That is gone. Those days are over. Now it's football,
and it's back with the Hall of Fame game kind
of believe a couple of meatheads and Harbaugh and Dan Campbell.
How much chew do you think they're going to go
through in this game tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Buddy, They don't chew anymore. It's all zen's. Everyone does zens.
That's what it had. Little pouches.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, this is the same thing.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
No, it's not anything at all. It's like it's straight.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
And nicotine dang in a pouch. Yeah, and a little
white pouch looks like. Some people call him pillows, pillows
of goodness. Some people call them z uh he's done
zens garanteed.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Oh yeah, I'm not a big fan. Well, I'm just
not a big fan of lippers at all. But uh yeah,
definitely don't.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Your plasticity. That's what it does.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Interesting one one of my letterman brother and they he
loves them. I pop two of them. Nice little buss.
You get a nice little buss. It wakes you up right, Yeah,
you get a nice little bus.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Man. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
It ain't as it ain't as as crazy is that Copenhagen,
you know, But it's different that Copenhagen. Boy, that's for
grown men only. I mean it might be a grown
woman out there too that does it. But got Lee,
I ain't never seen.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
It, did you hear least Copenhagen slap? But Lee doing
it into the mic. It's not that good today. He
does that when he doesn't have I know, it really's
his thing. It's like it's uh, you know, it's own
little tick.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yes, it's definitely a tick, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
So var you're in the lash building?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Uh are? I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Are are people popping zins ready to start laying the
lumber out a little bit there?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Or what?

Speaker 1 (04:14):
How's that looking?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
I don't I don't see anyone in here right now.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
No, that's kind of disappointing, right I can Thursday, you
don't have the boys in there getting fired up ready
to go.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
I think they start coming in right now. I believe
six o'clock.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Is the hour that keep an eye on players, keep
an eye on well.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
I think it's a bad sign. I think it's a
bad sign. Just letting you know. I mean, I think
right now.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
I was just down at Ohio State's camp. It's in there.
They were saying, Yeah, they're supposed to be their week off.
No guys are in there. Grinding. Wow, that's the team
to beat.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
I'm just saying, Okay, I feel like every team is
a team to beat. That's why we run with that
one and oh type of as ours our mantra. You know,
every team is a team to be. Can't can't look
past one. You know, Notre Dame knows about that, you
know what I mean? So I look past that that
one team. Man, you gotta always keep all of them. Well,

(05:13):
you know, you hit me with Ohio State, so I
got hit him. I got to hit him back. But
but you're hitting me back. But like Penn State's gotta
worry about a number of teams. Then you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
We gotta worry about every team.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
I said every team that.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I gotta worry about.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
That little girl that was sitting in front of me
yesterday on my flight, that's what I gotta worry about.
Sure enough made it and I'm two for two. I'm
two for two with girls and flights.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
You're saying her mom brought the toolbox too, Yes she did.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
I mean there hammers.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
That baby was loud. I wanted to body slam that
little kid man. And then I saw the mom turned
around and picked something up out of the chair and
I was like, ah, what a nice baby. I'll tell
you what. Like, you know, like, you just got to
enjoy yourself. Man, you know you're flying first row. You

(06:12):
just got to enjoy yourself. And then I just put
my headphones on. I had no more issues.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, well, at least you got there safe. Was the
cafe open when you got there at Stay College Airport? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (06:26):
I got it at like eleven. I don't know, it's
not open. They do not have them type they don't
carry them type of hours.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Uh So, with that being said, I do feel like
there's been a shift in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Okay, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
A shift. Okay, not a shift, yeah, no, no, no shift.
I mean, okay that I know of, But there is
a shift in the NFL. And I feel like players,
all of a sudden are now starting to embrace the
preseason again. To a Tago bay loa, he's not too
good for the preseason, right, He's not one of these
guys who dismisses the preseason and says those games don't count.

(07:06):
I don't want any part of that. Here was the
Dolphins quarterback yesterday.

Speaker 8 (07:09):
I'd definitely love to get some preseason snaps. In no doubt,
it's a new season.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
It's a new year.

Speaker 8 (07:16):
Got to get things tuned in with the guys again,
all of that. I don't think I'm better than anyone
on this team, or I think I'm too cool to
get reps on, you know during preseason games like na, Like,
I don't mind that at all.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
I would love that.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
So you got TUA once in. Joe Burrow is now
going to be playing in the preseason because Zach Taylor's
trying to come up with a solution for why they're
so awful to start out the year each season, So
he's going to be participating. Like things are changing.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Come free on one of them.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
A got blitzes the preseasone. Boys get hit in the
mouth and get hitting the face and then all that
reason and I ain't too good. Yeah, all right, you
wanna be standing right on that sideline.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Strap it in preseason, drop it out. It's got some
value now, all right? People want part of this.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
It's always had value. I mean, here's part of what
you'd hear sometimes in preseason games. You know, we used
to have four. The third one was the one that
teams would actually game plan for like they would go
through their normal week of preparation, so you'd have your
first down, second hand install, third down, you know, red zone,
two minute, all that stuff, and you would you would
break it down that way, and that was your dress

(08:25):
rehearsal game. Fourth one was you want to see a
lot of the backups back into the roster guys play.
And what happened a lot of times in that game
was you'd see coaches say, hey, we want our guys
to play on islands. Like we know they can play
in zone coverage, like they can cover space, but we
want to see if they can play on islands. And

(08:46):
so they wanted to see if they could match up.
They want to see how they, you know, could could
handle some of that. And sometimes they want to see
how they could handle Hey, there's this stunt, this blitz
package and all that. You would hear coaches before the
game basically say to one another like, hey, you know,
test this guy out, bring some pressure, like like your
your coach saying to another team like hey make sure

(09:10):
like I'm being real, like they would want to see
and they'd be like, hey, what do you guys want
to see? And it would be that sort of conversation
before somebody's preseason games so each team could make the
proper evaluation. Now I'm not said that happening in every
preseason game, but it definitely happened in the fourth one
for sure, which and probably some like some mixed in

(09:31):
and throughout. You know, first second, they'd see some things
from time to time.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Which makes the people that bet on those games even worse.
Knowing that there was agreements that were being made between
coaches on that give this guy a little something to
give him a different look. Wow, I had no idea.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
I never knew that.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yeah, that is something you be getting stuff that don't
nobody els get. But you know, all I say is
fourth game. You you don't. You never played like you
got like one one series. But third, third preseason game
that was dress rehearsal for the guys, right like you're

(10:09):
you're going into the third, third week of or third game,
and I guess it's what, it's only three now, right,
it's not it's not four, it's only three.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
So now's the second one? If they do second game? Yeah,
I just I.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
You know, preseason is a little tricky, and and it's
tricky from the standpoint of as a as a starter.
It's like you want to get real game rep feelings, right,
So you can't get the same feeling in a preseason
game that you would get in practice. And I know

(10:44):
people always talk about it. It's not overstated, it's it's
very true. You cannot replicate a rep in a a
game versus a practice. And so when you when you
get into of those games and you see a different team,
even when you have those team practices, the intensity level

(11:06):
is a lot different. You know, you feel it those
enter team practice or and you know, like you know,
teams come together, you know at somebody's training camp, they scrimmage,
it's different. It's a different level of energy. But even
a game, it's just it's different having the referees out there,
you go through the whole regiment of what the game represents,

(11:26):
the whole dress rehearsal of what the show is going to.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Be, and.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
It's live, it's live, so it just you know, for me,
I think that there there is that idea of getting
in there, getting a feel for what it feels like
and getting out of there before you you know, get
banged up. And and for other guys you got to
make the team. I mean, there's there aren't very many spots,

(11:53):
Like people would be astonished by how few of positions
are open on a ross for NFL football team, So
you've got to get out there and get film.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I was going to ask you guys that because the
subject came up where Harbaugh was talking about who's going
to play, who's not going to play. Trey Lance is
going to get the start. Other veterans aren't going to get,
you know, any playing time, and I just thought to myself,
So he's telling you, all right, here's who the starters are, like,
these are already locked in, those spots are taken. How
many spots are actually available or to be to be

(12:30):
had It just based on preseason action and practice and
training camp.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
It depends just that team. But it's not many. I
mean it's like one al yeah, it's it's like five.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
I mean there's there's ultimately about five spots, maybe seven
spots they're looking at to be you know, back up,
and really it's special teams. People oftentimes don't realize the
importance of special teams. You've got most likely three maybe
four guys, you know, outside of you kicker, punter, which
there could be guys battling there, and long snapper potential

(13:04):
battle there, and then you've got like.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Three other core special teams players. So those guys.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
Are like guys who are like a great gunner on
punt who will be incredible at running downfield and be
able to cover down on the ball.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
There'll be guys who are on kickoff are you'r you know,
L four R four you know as far.

Speaker 6 (13:22):
As where they are in the mix of you know,
kickoff coverage, and there's guys there at least that's how
it used to be before they change the rule. So
there's about three guys there that they're staples, Like those
are core special teams players. They're pretty much on every
single special teams and they're a backup on defense usually

(13:43):
or maybe offense. And then outside of that, it's like
there's some backup positions like how many wide receivers a
you're taking, how many linemen are you taking, how many
quarterbacks are you taking?

Speaker 4 (13:52):
So that's just on offense, Like would I.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
Would actually say there's probably more decisions that are being
made for the back end of the roster on offense
than defense, only because it's it's kind of a shoe
in for some of the core special teams guys like
they're gonna be needed on special teams, but they're also
needed on defense. So if you're a defensive back and

(14:15):
you can make your case for being like a guy
who's gonna impact special teams, you're gonna make the roster.
And so is that is more important than I think
anyone can talk about or discuss. And I know we
don't talk about it enough and it feels like we're
phasing out special teams. But this time of year, you
talk to any NFL coach, they'll be like, dude, get
out there on teams, like you do everything you can

(14:38):
to make special teams, and then you will make the
roster and then you'll work your way up from there.
You know a lot of players have worked the way
up from a special teams player into you know, a
starter in some degree.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
So a lot that goes into special teams. Man, that
is not for the faint of heart. I'll tell you that.
You see the things that they have to do, and
I mean kickoffs. Kickoffs have been so minimized because the
kickers are knocking them through the uprights, you know, on kickoffs,
so you don't you don't really see the type of
valance that used to exist on kickoffs that you did

(15:12):
in years years past. But punts are are super important
and they're super valient, valient plays for for some of
the guys that are out there.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
So while they've tried to kind of manage some of.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
The the the valance out of out of special teams,
it is still a tremendous opportunity for a guy to
stay on a roster, to to have longevity in the
National Football League. There are some guys you will never
know their names, but they'll be in the league for

(15:46):
you know, double digits of years. I remember Ethan Albright,
our our long snapper. We call I called him Big Rid.
Now he's a big ginger. He just snapped. All he
did was snap. But he was so efficient and at
snapping for so long that you know, he had a
very very long career, a very successful career, quietly went

(16:08):
about making his money. Why you see all of these
other guys out here, the few guys that you know,
everybody has the conversations about getting these large contracts and
crazy contracts.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
You know, there actually really.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Are some guys that come in with the hard hat
mentality and get paid a very nice sum of money,
even though it's not one hundred million dollar contracts.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
It's it's really you.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Know, that's true. Well, I'm just gonna say that, what
like Matthew Slater, Matthew Slater played what sixteen years as
a special teamer. Yeah, and and people have argued like
Belichick's like he's one of the greatest players I've ever coached.
I'm trying to find out what his career earnings were.
If you guys had to guess, what do you think
Matthew Slater's career earnings were as a special team it's

(16:54):
double digits.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, he probably earned two million stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Thirty million dollars, just over thirty million dollars in his career.
That ain't bad.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
I mean, like after taxes, that's that's you know, I'll
just say this again, that is not something to sneeze
at when you understand, I'm how you have a dollar?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Oh god, you.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
On one, huhbelievable. I don't want to I don't know
how you said that. And I sneezed at.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
That very moment. Bless you, Brady, Bless you Brady. That
was bizarre. Bless you football. Jesus, blesses you, you know,
bless you anyway. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Notre Dame, baby, I heard Notre Dame like three, four, five, six,
seven times yesterday. Oh Brady, Brady, people really love you, man,
People really love Brady Quinn. I don't know what it
is about good looking quarterbacks that that play at Notre Dame,
but you're high on the list good looking quarterback to that.

(18:04):
I mean, I mean, I love my little bro, but
people love Brady Quinn. I hear about you every time
I am.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I'm showing you guys.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
By the way, the photo of the guy who won
our Blue Jacket Golf Outing, so LaVar, I think I've
told you this.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
We give out an award.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
We give out a blue jacket like a blazer to
the guy who looks like he's having the most fun
in this year and he's got.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
A hole in his arm, and he's missing another arm,
and he's got his.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Other arms there, but he uh.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Josh Phoebus, the first ever two time winner of the
Blue Jacket Golf Outing, who really showed up and showed out,
also needed some stitches, so he was it was a
tremendous performance.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, he had.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
A pretty good gash, but I'm not exactly sure how
it happened, but he he was able to power through
and finish the round.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Like he's like one of those those guys that, like
one of those people that survived a serial killer. Like
he got a bunch of other people, but you know,
here's one that survived with with a hole in his arm,
blood all over his shirt, just uh, just wearing it
and proud mustache.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
The mustache. I was about to go to the mustache. Look,
the mustache tells.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
You all you need to know. He came ready.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
He came ready, like he looked like Johnny Ringo, like
hero he does.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
So, my pops typically gives a speech.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
He typically gives a speech before we all go out
and we all take a shot of Irish whiskey. And
in this case, we've transitioned over to Josh. As you know, Josh,
you know, served in our military and uh loves.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
The event, loves loves our foundation.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
So he gives quite, He gives quite the speech before
the golf outing, and I think he got himself a
little too juice stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, look, I mean there's been, you know, reportedly other
incidents that have taken place there with golf carts and whatnot.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
So oh yeah, we used to have Nike Golf that ended.
We didn't advertise it, but there was another cart in
a pond. But basically our insurance got dropped for that event,
so we could couldn't do that anymore. Yeah, there's a
lot of wild things going. Jonas came one year, LeVar,
which you guys will have to make it out. I

(20:20):
feel like Lee Lee is immediately in in contention for
winning it. But Jonas came out one year, got pretty blasted.
He just remembers that one specific player who really wanted
some spaghetti.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
I'll just put it that way. He was really hungry
for some spaghetti.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I don't think I was alone, and I think I,
you know, asked somebody. It might have been Pat or Jake,
and I just asked him, like man like he's talking
about that a lot, like like Gus can't let that go,
like all day he talked about all day, really hungry spaghetti.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Got some problems.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, he does have some problems. That
is true.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
All right.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
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Speaker 3 (21:49):
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Speaker 4 (23:13):
So.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Aaron Rodgers took time on the Pat McAfee show starring
AJ Hawk to defend his coach, to speak up and
stick up for his guy, Mike Tomlin. Let's take a listen,
Mike t is the man.

Speaker 10 (23:27):
Any hate, disrespect and the ILK is complete and utter.
Mike t is the man from day one that we
talked on the phone in the off season. Was never
talking to a head coach. I was talking to a friend.
I have crazy respect for him. The way that he
leads the room, the way that he he talks in

(23:50):
the team meeting, the way he is in the practice.
The surprise has been just what a great duty is,
what a great leader he is on top of what
already expected, which was already high based on what I
thought from Afar, but being able to see it in
person is incredible.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Take that var Why would you say?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Take that var?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, as you said earlier this offseason, Mike Thomas should
have been fired three years ago.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
No, not me.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
You got the wrong guy. Why you like doing stuff
like that? Bro, don't play around like that. I'm a
Mike Tomlin fan. I'm a Mike Tomlin enthusiast, but I'm
also a realist and I'm also someone who I try
to be critical and what I look at and if

(24:35):
I'm being critical and what I'm looking at, this is
a team that has been a team that maintains being competitive.
They're competitive in the North, which is very difficult to
do on a consistent basis. I don't give a damn
like you can say what you want. It's one of
the hardest divisions.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Year in and year out to be successful.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Mike Tomlin has been able to maintain relevance and consistency
and competitiveness in the AFC North. But with that being said,
once the bar is raised, and the bar was raised
by winning a super Bowl, you're always expected to make

(25:23):
a push for the Super Bowl, and this Pittsburgh Steelers team,
while being competitive, has not seemingly been a playoff competitive team.
And I think that that's the biggest conversation that is
continuing to be had, and it's for several years that

(25:43):
that conversation has has taken place. So it's not that
I'm not a fan of Mike Tomlin. I've heard glowing
reviews of how he runs things and how he handles
things program wise. I think everybody knows he's the type
of guy that the players really really love and subscribe

(26:03):
to outside of a few touched few, But.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
I don't have a problem with Mike Tomlin. But what I.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Will say is is that I believe this year Mike
Tomlin's seat is hot, and it doesn't cool off because
Aaron Rodgers came out and had positive things to say
about him. I think that the block is hot, the
seed is hot, and they got to perform. And so
if he feels that way about Mike Tomlin, then you

(26:34):
get your ass out there and you get them further
in the playoffs than what they've gotten in the last
few years.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I don't recall him saying speaking that way about Robert Solo.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
I'm just saying, yeah, I was gonna say, it feels
different with his excitement, his love for solid but also
just looking at the situation, it feels different. When he
went to New York, it felt like New York was
his his conduit to be able to get, you know,
payback to Green Bay. This feels different, feels like more

(27:11):
of a partnership. And look, I don't know if it'll
work out or not. You know, it's hard when you
get a player at that age. We all thought based
on how he played in Green Bay that first year,
holding the flag everything else. When he was running out
in the field for the Jets, I'm like, this is
gonna be different, this is gonna be oh crap, Well,
we're gonna have to wait another year to see what
this looks like so you never know when it gets

(27:33):
to this point in a player's career, and to your point,
it does feel like there's a lot on the line,
Like this feels like a big swing for the Steelers
for everything they did, even.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Feel like a TJ. Wats contract.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
I mean it's loaded to the point where after this
year and I don't know if Rogers will want to
play another year or not. He kind of said this
as his swan song, his last go at it. If
things go really well, maybe they convinced it to come
back for another year. But it's almost set up where
a lot of these guys, you know, Cam Hayward and

(28:07):
some of the older veteran players, this is it, Like
this is that last run at it before you have
to really tear it down and start over again.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's gonna be fun to watch, man, That whole division
is gonna be fun to watch. Just I don't know
what the hell it's going to turn into or who's
gonna make a run. But even the Browns who are disaster,
you're just watching it going how a they gonna screw
this one up? Like you know what's going to go
wrong with Cleveland. It just feels like that division's got
juicy storylines every year and maybe the Steelers, with better

(28:37):
quarterback play, can finally win a playoff game because to
the you know, Rogers is defending Mike Tomlin, it has
been a long ass time since they've won a playoff game, Like,
it's been a long time, and they get there and
for a myriad of reasons, it just doesn't end up
going well. So I think the criticism is fair. I

(28:59):
just you know, omar CON's going to be sticking around
for a couple of more years. I wonder if things
go well, would Rogers entertain the idea of coming back
for a second? Like, would he entertain that.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
I don't see why not?

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Yeah, because I don't see why not one to two
more years, maybe even three, if you're having a good
time and you're winning, and you feel this type of
affinity towards towards Mike Tomlin. I mean, this is one
thing I will say, Aaron Rodgers sounds happy. I mean,

(29:32):
how many times have we really heard him speak and
he sounds happy where he doesn't sound so calculated. He's
just speaking from the heart about something that's positive, not
defending himself. I almost feel like, more often than not,
when we hear from Aaron Rodgers, it's always based off
of him having to defend himself. And while he's defending

(29:54):
Mike Tomlin in this particular instance, he still sounds happy
and that could be dangerous. That really could be something
that you pay attention to. Maybe it's not a pissed
off Aaron Rodgers that you want to have. Maybe it's
a happy Aaron Rodgers. I think he's uncomfortable because of

(30:14):
the way people feel about him.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
A lot of people think he's washed.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
A lot of people find him to be, you know,
you know, very interesting in the way that he handles
the media and how he handles himself and how he
presents himself.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
But though again, like he.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Said, those are all based off of perception of what
you hear him say in the media.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
You don't know him.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't know him.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
People don't know him.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
And so if behind the scenes you have a happy
Aaron Rodgers coming to the table, a confident Aaron Rodgers coming.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
To the table, that could be that could be.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Very dangerous for opposing teams coming into this year. So
it could turn into something exciting. They could ask the bid.
There there are other teams in the AFC North that
could ask the bit. The Bengals didn't. They didn't start
out great last year. They were a tremendous disappointment. Right
the Cleveland Browns, they could surprise you. It's the Baltimore

(31:14):
Ravens have sked the bid and the playoffs too, and
they're the cream of the crop right now.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Of the AFC North.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
It's a wide open division if you ask me, even
though it says in theory that the Baltimore Ravens are
the team to beat, which they are, but it's still
a wide open division because of how competitive these teams
are with one another.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
And Aaron Rodgers, a happy Aaron Rodgers. That could be interesting.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, it's married now, got everything set ready to go fire.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
I mean, you know, Q doesn't think married is going
to help him. That's that's going to take him downhill.
He's running down.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
I'm just telling me, tell me a professional athlete.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
They got married, all right, and we got like was
better after you got married.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Derek Jeter did it the right way, waited until after
he was done and said, all right, I'll settle down now.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
I mean, look at look at Roy, look at more
than maclroy. I mean, I just said, like that was
one tiger Woods. Tiger Woods.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
You can go through the golfers if you want, you
can go through NBA players. I mean, maybe there's something
else going on there. They might have a little bit
of a premirital agreement and how this is supposed to work.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Maybe some of the players is like.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
That Lloyd Floyd made them sign contracts. They would get
in contracts.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Everyone's getting contract everybody. You didn't you never heard that story.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
No, you couldn't deal with You're not allowed to deal
in Floyd's flock if you didn't sign off on on
a very very very ironclad agreement to what your services
were and non disclosure clauses everything, Like you're basically signing

(33:00):
your rights.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Away to be able to be in his ecosystem. And
good for him. I feel like he should send the
template of that.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Uh you know, of that agreement out to a lot
of these athletes. I was just having a conversation yesterday
about how dangerous it is out here for for athletes
because of the way things are being handled, like now
being inebriated. Like if you're inebriated with someone and they're

(33:29):
inebriated with you, and they say, well, I was under
the influence. I did not give consent. You're in trouble.
Isn't that how this dis latest basketball player got caught up.
You're in trouble. So anyways, not to get I forget.
I forget the name of it. I just read it
not too too long ago, maybe like a couple of

(33:52):
days ago.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
But he wasn't.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
He's an NBA player, I believe, and I guess apparently
Gilbert a Reenas No, not Arenas Dang. I thought I
saw his name of the news, did you. Yeah, I
haven't seen that.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Oh yeah, I get Gilbert. You know, for about for
about six seven months, he just ran a casino in
his home and encino.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
You know that's what you have not seen? Gilbert Arena's
naming the news for that? Yeah, for real? Oh god?
Everywhere yesterday I was, I was in the air. You
disconnect from life.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yes, you're not in a space shuttle, you know how yeh,
there's there's wi fi.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I was out of air, out of dang. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
Yeah, but this is like gambling though, this is poker.
He's playing poker like there's something else. There's something else. Well, no,
maybe he was. It's a pretty prevalent news story. Oh god,
I'm trying to look for it right now.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
The company these days, it's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
It's it's real in the field out here, man, And
there's enough things that you can do to get into
to a lot of trouble. I mean, one of them
is you got to limit your interactions with how I
tell my I said my Sunday stories every day almost
about how guys are getting caught up, and it might

(35:20):
you know, it's just not in your favor to handle
things a certain way, like even in dating like you got.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
You gotta be very careful out here.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
So I don't even know how we got on that,
because now you didn't throw one of my homies out there.
Now I'm trying to figure out what what the hell happened.
I definitely did disconnect yesterday, though I looked at her rundown.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
I didn't need to check in with one of your
homies then, because there's a lot going on. I hadn't
check you. I tell you that you've got Kwame Brown
and Swacky Bee dancing on his Dang's wild It.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
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Coming up next though, we are going to fill you
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(36:53):
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Speaker 3 (37:24):
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Speaker 1 (37:34):
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Speaker 4 (37:38):
Good morning, everybody.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Good morning, Jonas, goodbody, Brady good Morny LeVar. Yes, guys,
in case you missed it, we talked about it last week.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
But Gilbert Arenas and five other defendants, including a suspected
high level member of an Israeli transnational organized crime group,
we're all arrested yesterday on a federal indictment alleging that
they operated an illegal gambling business in which high stakes
pocre games were taking place at Gilbert Arenas's Insino mansion yesterday.
Gilbert took to social media late yesterday when he posted

(38:09):
his fifty thousand dollars bond as he was walking out
of the courthouse and his flippy floppies and short.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Shorts, saying you better not.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
I'm free.

Speaker 7 (38:18):
They can't hold me, and also posting that they he
just rented the house, wasn't a part.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Of anything, all right?

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Huh okay, Rady, I think that you've seen it the
Kwame Brown rant. Do we want to play that top
of next hour?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Uh, there's gonna be a lot of things we have
to bleep out, but we can play it. I mean,
it's it's interesting. He's really excited about Gilbert Arenas get
in trouble.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's very well documented that they don't like each other.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
And if you didn't know, now you know there are so.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, so Lee's got it. Lee's got his work cut
out for him during the break to try and endit
that because it is there. There's a lot going on there.
But you know Gilbert Arenas. And by the way, what
do you think tip them off to this because this
casino that he ran around well, no said, so. This
this casino that he ran was back in twenty twenty

(39:19):
one and it's just now he's just now getting popped
for it. And he ran it for like six seven months.
Or something like that. It was less than a year
and you know, he's he got the whole poker today.
I think it was called, you know, Arena's Poker Club,
Like he's got the whole poker table, the whole setup there,
like yeah, like a real but he just.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Runt of the house though, Yeah, wasn't a part of it.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
How does something like that get out?

Speaker 5 (39:42):
I mean, guys, guys, gamble friends, gamble by how does
that get out?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
People talk? I mean, if you have you watched that game,
I mean that's essentially the plot here. I'm kind of
if I did see it, great movie. I do believe
I saw it. Yeah, I did. It is on Netflix?
Was it Netflix or Prime? Probably not. It actually came
out in a movie theater. It's older. It's at least

(40:12):
ten years old.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
I saw a movie not too long ago where a
young lady was was basically kind of masterminding a high
end That's.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, I've seen it. It was probably on Prime or
or it was on Prime.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
So you're saying that was the inspiration for the Arenas
Poker Club, I'm.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Not saying anything.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
I was listening to what Brady said good times. I
just was wondering how.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
I'm curious as to how you get caught up for that, Like,
how does how do the FATS find out about that.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Or get locked up? Neighbors neighbors talking, got locked up,
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